Sinister Sites – St. John The Divine Cathedral



The destruction of New York city (including the Twin Towers) sculpted right on the building… Strange occult symbols on the floor… Weird rituals being performed in the sanctuary… Home of the Temple of Understanding which admittedly seeks to instate a new world religion… This cathedral is definitively “different”, as some people might say. But the “difference” lies in the fact that the cathedral is in fact a temple for the occult elite. I personally couldn’t care less about each individual’s beliefs, but to trick unsuspecting church goers into an occult house of worship is nothing less than Evil.

“The pagan intellectuals reclothed their original ideas in a garment of christian phraseology but bestowed the keys of the symbolism only upon those duly initiated and bound to secrecy”
– Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages

Background and History of the Cathedral

This unfinished building has been claimed as being the world’s largest cathedral. It is realistic to maintain such high aspirations when your sources of funding include tycoons like JP Morgan and prominent figures like the Grand Master of the Masons of the state of New York. The completion of the cathedral was such a prized accomplishment for the Freemasons that it was featured on the front page of “Masonic World” of March 1925.


The article states:

“It is particularly fitting that the Masons, who were the principal builders of cathedrals and churches during the greatest cathedral-building period, should now have a prominent part in the movement to build America’s greatest cathedral (…) Little need be added to the story of Freemasonry during the cathedral-building period; its monuments are its best history, alike of its genius, its faith and its symbols.”

The article openly admits that masonic cathedrals represent the best legacy of the Brotherhood and the symbolism is prominently showcased. The masses are however too ignorant to recognize the meanings behind the art, so they just stare at them, thinking “it’s pretty nice”.

Illuminati Pyramid and All-Seeing Eye on the Cathedral


Freemasonry and the Occult

As you might know, Masonry has been, through the ages, the keeper of the “ancient mysteries”, which are occult and esoteric teachings only communicated to the initiates. I will not explain here the mystery religion as it takes several years of studies to get some understanding. I can however say that the occultists draw their teachings from ancient Egyptian, Babylonian, Kaballah and Gnostic cultures, who predate by many centuries the Christian era. Secret societies have been forced to hide the true nature of their philosophies in a veil of Christianity to avoid persecution by the Church. Freemasons and their fellow organisms, the Rosicrucian Order and the Knights Templar have all been accused of devil worship and idolatry in Europe.

While many low-level Freemasons may be practicing Christians, those looking to reach higher degrees within the Brotherhood are required to study the tenants and the philosophies of the Mystery Religion.  Freemasons do not necessarily seek for the world to embrace their brand of spirituality, as it is strictly reserved to the initiates. However, people in high places, who often happen to be Masons are seeking to steer the population towards a “dumbed-down” version of their paganism, as you will read later.

The Symbols

The impressive exterior of the cathedral provokes a humbling sensation at whom gazes at it. But what are you humbling yourself to? We’ll examine the details of the artwork.

1- The Apocalyptic Pillar

On the western facade of the building, stonemasons have sculpted numerous scenes that seem oddly out of place for a Cathedral. The most striking one is the chilling depiction of the destruction of New York city and its landmarks.

Twin towers collapsing

The scene above was done in 1997, four years before the destruction of the Twin Towers.  Other recognizable skyscrapers are the Chrysler Building and the Citigroup center.

Apocalyptic New York

The scene above might be unsettling for New York residents. We see the Brooklyn bridge crumbling with cars and buses falling into agitated waters. At the right is the Statue of Liberty, which seems to be sinking in the water. Beneath this horrifying prophecy is the New York Stock Exchange, with people trading goods around it.


So, what is the purpose of this weird carving? Well, the first thing that needs to be mentioned is the actual St. John the Divine is credited for writing the Book of Revelation in the Bible, which describes in symbolic imagery the events of the apocalypse. Occultists believe that the Book of Revelation has been hermetically coded to reveal its true meaning to the initiates of esoteric teachings. This scene, carved on the west entrance of the cathedral, depicts New York as being “Babylon the Great”, the city who gets completely destroyed by the wrath of God. The Book of Revelation mentions:

“Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
She has become a home for demons
and a haunt for every evil spirit,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.
For all the nations have drunk
the maddening wine of her adulteries.
The kings of the earth committed adultery with her,
and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.”

-Book of Revelation 18

The artists might be on to something because there is indeed numerous similarities between the actual New York city and the description of Babylon the Great in the Bible.  The Book of Revelation mentions:

  1. A “Great Prostitute” who sits on many waters – peoples, multitudes, nations and languages – holding a golden cup. She rules over the kings of the Earth. = The Statue of Liberty
  2. Merchants of the Earth who grew rich of her “excessive luxuries”, weeping because nobody buys their goods anymore = New York Stock Exchange

“The merchants who sold these things and gained their wealth from her will stand far off, terrified at her torment. They will weep and mourn and cry out:
” ‘Woe! Woe, O great city,
dressed in fine linen, purple and scarlet,
and glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls!
In one hour such great wealth has been brought to ruin!’

– Book of Revelation, 18

Knowing that, still today, over 70% of the world’s capital goes through the NYSE, we understand why the building was depicted on the apocalyptic pillar. It represents the “financial” aspect of the Book of Revelation, where it repeatedly refers to rich merchants and trading goods.

So, a landmark of NYC, the St. John the Divine Cathedral, predicts in vivid detail the destruction of its home city. Pretty unusual. Under the rendering of the NYSE, we a skeleton and strange creatures, who seem to represent death and destruction. Is this some sort of prophecy?

2- Sculpture

Side of the tired moon
Pretty disgusting body


This sculpture, which basically symbolizes the struggle between Good and Evil, features numerous elements we can find in paganism: Sun worship, mythical creatures and sun versus moon duality. Called “Fountain of Peace”, the sculpture borrows the fantastic, bizarre and distorted art style of the Grotesque. All sorts of animal creatures are emerging from a smiling sun, which represents the basic paradigm of Sun Worship (the Sun as giver of life).  The idol points to the east, an ancient pagan tradition. There is also weird stuff on the sculpture like a DNA symbol (a DNA symbol also appears at the entrance of the Cathedral). We all know how genetic modification is as Christian as it gets. We can also find a quote of John Lennon saying “…one day the world will live as one”. Think this is spooky? Read on.

Strange Rituals

A) Procession of the Ghouls

Every year, at Halloween, St. John the Divine is the host of a strange event called “The Grand Procession of the Ghouls”. It is basically a parade taking place right inside the sanctuary of the Cathedral where people dressed in costumes of demons, ghouls, monsters and other creepy things, walk around to macabre organ music. This thing resembles the strange rituals held behind closed doors by occult groups. Outside of the great number of costumes representing demons and Satan (already extremely bizarre for a Cathedral), some costumes seem to make a mockery out of Christianity.

Does this look like Jesus crucified to you?

Other pictures:


A priest-monster with a evil looking crucifix floating behind him
The “bishop” standing in the pulpit while the ghouls parade

Don’t satanic rituals make fun of Christian rituals by distorting them? Well that’s as distorted as it can get. Processions are a pagan tradition like the “Procession of the Prechten” in Germany, which is very similar to the one at St. John the Divine in many ways.

Procession of the Perchten in Germany

A video shot by a tourist of the event.

B) The Blessing of the Animals

Another bizarre ritual is the Blessing of the Animals that takes place in September of every year. You have a bunch of animals INSIDE and outside the sanctuary of the Cathedral “worshiping God” (in their words). Since when do animals read the Bible and such? They never did. An article published in 1996 by the California Forestry Association describes the scene:

“…goats, horses and other animals are led to the alter to receive blessings. Camels and elephants walk the aisles as worshipers march to the alter with bowls of compost and worms.”

This is another pagan ritual, taking place inside a church. Notice the white robes everybody is wearing.

Hope this horse won’t poop while getting its blessing
This cow is all worshiped out

Did you notice those white robes? Look at those pictures of other pagan rituals:

Celebrating "Lucia"
Celebrating “Lucia”
Pagan ritual in Greece

Notice a similarity? Yes, white robes! Anyways, this is a video captured during the actual mass. There are UNCANNY resemblances with pagan rituals.

So we’ve blessed, horses, monkeys and aunt Sylvia’s poodle dressed like a ballerina. What is there left to bless? Why not people’s bicycles while we’re at it? Oh crap, shouldn’t have said that.

C) The Blessing of Bicycles

I won’t even talk about this, its is too stupid.

The environment is our religion and we don’t know it yet

D) Paul Winter’s Winter Solstice Celebration

Can’t worship the Sun more than that

This famous New Age musician celebrates the Winter solstice, one of the most ancient pagan rituals. He says on his website about the consort:

In ancient times, observers watched the sun sink lower in the sky each day, and feared it would disappear completely and leave them in darkness.

People practiced special rituals intended to entice the sun’s return. Bonfires and candles, with their imitative magic, helped fortify the waning sun and ward off the spirits of darkness. These symbols live on in our modern seasonal customs: the candles of Hanukkah and Christmas are kin to the fiery rites of old, which celebrated the miracle of the earth’s renewal.

So, yes he is Pagan, he’s proud of it and he performs inside a cathedral. Here’s a video of his rendering of “Silent Night”. Tell me who/what is being worshiped?

The Temple of Understanding

St. John the Divine is the headquarters of the Temple of Understanding, an interfaith effort to steer away people from traditional religions to a hybrid kind of spirituality based on New Age philosophies, Neo-Paganism and a mix of organized religions’ traditions. The “friends” who have assisted the founder Juliet Hollister include John D. Rockefeller II, the XIV Dalai Lama, Pope John XXIII, Eleanor Roosevelt, UN Secretary-General U Thant, International Planned Parenthood and the Jewish Theological Seminary. Jean Houston, a New Age guru and supporter of the Temple of Understanding wrote in her book “Trojan Horse”:

“The Temple’s purpose is to facilitate the one world religion, through the promoting both the acceptance and the embrace of all religions, beliefs and rituals. The Temple of Understanding’s Meditation Room was to be known as the “Hall of Illumination”‘ where the Illuminati, Masters of Wisdom, Our Leaders of the Temple of Understanding will train the public in the new humanistic cult…to create a new type of mystic”

The Temple has received full UN accreditation and has been a key actor in the “spiritual” department of the UN. Twelve individuals listed as Directors or Advisors of the Temple of Understanding are also members of the UN’s Global Forum councils. Those Forums have received numerous speakers who’ve openly supported a neo-pagan world religion based on Earth worship. James Lovelock, one of the speakers mentioned that “Gaia” (an ancient term describing the Earth as a Goddess) was the giver of life and had the capacity to heal herself. He describes humans as being cancers to Gaia, an “illness too overwhelming for her to heal herself”. In other words, humans are parasites to the goddess Gaia.

Al Gore has been a guest several times at the Cathedral of St.John the Divine where he infamously said “God is not separate from the Earth“. Well, in Christianity, Judaism and Islam, God IS in fact separate from the Earth (in the Heavens). If you decipher Gore’s phrase:

God = Earth = Earth is God

Gore has been repeatedly applauded by Pagan groups for his books and lectures. The Church of All Worlds congratulated the Clinton/Gore victory in 1996 by writing:

“We are Neo-Pagans — implying an eclectic reconstruction of ancient Nature religions, and combining archetypes of many cultures with other mystic and spiritual disciplines — and our beliefs and values are no different from those you describe as your own. Your book, Earth in Balance, is heralded by our People as a manifesto for all we hold dear…Know that there are half million NeoPagans out here who support you, and who voted for you, and who will rally to the aid of your policies for the salvation of the Earth and the reunification of the Great Family”.

Another member of the board of directors of the Temple of Understanding is Thomas Berry. He believes that the world is being called to a new, “post-denominational”, even a post-Christian belief system that sees the earth as a living being — with mankind as her consciousness.

Ok, so what the heck does this mean?

If you read my article about the Georgia Guidestones or the Denver International Airport, you’re already aware of unusual monuments and art placed by powerful yet secretive groups calling for a new type of global spirituality.  Key words or expressions are often used to make this religious shift socially acceptable: “Peace” , “balance with nature” or  “harmony with the infinite”. How can you be against peace? You can’t.  Those buzz words hide however the means that will be used to obtain those objectives:  “Peace” will only happen when all there will be a single world government. “Balance with nature” will only happen when the world population will drastically decrease and “harmony with the infinite” will only happen when the world will give up traditional religions to embrace neo-pagan humanism.

The St. John the Divine Cathedral acts as a nervous center for the spiritual side of the global shift. Through numerous forums and UN summits, the Temple of Understanding reunites leaders from all major religions to devise a universal message.  This message will later be communicated to the masses  through local religious networks. In a slow yet steady manner, all religious faiths are leaning towards the same sets of values and will eventually converge into humanism.

Interfaith meeting at the Temple of Understanding

An example of this is Madeleine L’Engle’s courses given inside the Cathedral (she also is  one of the founders of the Temple). Her teachings include shamanism, out-of-body experiences, astral projection, Tarot methods of fortune telling, earth worship, psychic abilities, yoga, Tantric Toga (sexual form of Black Magic) and astrology. Almost all of those practices have have been severely condemned by Christianity for centuries yet they are being accepted within the Cathedral. Those types of courses are being promoted in various religious temples across the world.

But the main value that needs to be globally accepted is environmentalism. By creating a sense of urgency and fear regarding the degradation of Nature, it is easy to pass laws that would be otherwise unpopular, to raise taxes for the sake of environment and to shift the masses’ focus from their respective religions’ laws to the worship of the Earth. People embracing this New Age spirituality are more likely to accept controversial projects like Planned Parenthood and eugenics. When Nature is your religion, you see human life as a parasitic presence and more likely to rationalize the death of masses of population.


To Conclude

If you have take one thing from this article is that the St. John the Divine Cathedral is not Christian. In fact, it houses the very people that are working towards the eradication of religions, and they are doing a great job at it. Like I’ve said in the beginning, I do not condemn any faith, whether its Muslim, Christian or Wiccan. All faiths contain wisdom in their teachings. But messing with people’s faiths and tricking them into worshiping something else is pure, epic, biblical proportions, Cobra from GI Joe, Skeletor from He-Man Evil. Some say that Satan is the master of deceit. Well, people going to mass into that Cathedral are being deceived in ways they can’t even imagine. Paul has warned the Corinthians:

“…for such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder. For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works”
(II Corinthians 11:13-15).




  1. hummm what is wrong with worshiping the sun …far better than an imaginary God, or imaginary Jesus both of whom never existed in the first place … the Sun is Real, the Moon is Real, The Sun does provide life for 99.99999% of the life on earth. God is a delusion created by iron age men.

    • What a waste to lose your soul if you don’t know the least about history:

      How did mankind come into existence? Evolution?
      Where are all the faulty missing links of all living things? Neanderthal man, who has been proven to be a normal homo sapiens sapiens? No, wait, the scattered bones put together of a fossilised ape and man.
      And not to forget, infurtile species, like the offspring of horses and donkeys. And those are not so much different than what is implied by scientists. O yes, if a missing link can exist out of nowhere it is a new species which cannot create furtile offspring with other species.
      Never in the history of the world has one organism created totally new strands of improved, evolved, genetic material. It has always en will always be a variety of what already exists. Behold the human eye for example, a marble of engineering.
      Sure, no sweat for a lizard to change into a mammal, right? They only have completely different metabolisms! No God needed there either, right? It’s a piece of cake for cells to come up with such complicated biology. Surely, cells must have collective intelligence to understand everything going on in a living thing. A ridiculous hypothesis. No room for error though. A genetically evolved species must be perfect or it will not live to see a day. Don’t know how something can be half croc and half cow? Strange that only the perfectly alright species are found and are in existence today, hmmm.
      Or maybe you believe aliens created us, the great sungod engeneered our ancestors? Yet, nobody asks the question: where do aliens come from?
      Science, filled with biased data, is like swiss cheese filled with cement. It looks smooth, but it isn’t.

      God does exist, he touched me more than ten years ago. I was raised a humanist and nobody told me the gospel. I simply had the irrational urge to start reading a Bible I had for years which I got when graduating from primary school. My parents put me on a christian school because it was closest to home.
      Ten years after that He touched me thanks to that Bible and made me new right after I read the gospel of Luke, deadly serious and wonderful altogether that moment was.

      This is my testimony to you. Not to aggressively convert you, but to save your life. Search deep within your hart and you will see that you are looking for the truth just as I was over ten years ago. All that esoteric stuff didn’t make me in the least happy or content in knowledge of truth. Therefore I can honestly state that only Jesus Christ can give you that “this is what I have been looking, this is it” feeling. God is real and pure, regardless of what god the churches have created. Read the gospels and get saved! Search your heart and acknowledge you are missing “something” in your life, use your intuition. I don’t need to convince you. We are both people, with the same needs. Everybody is looking for the same answers to the same questions.

    • shane how can you say oh gods not real, so sun worship's better. i can admit that i dont beleive in god however this beleif unites millions. the worship of the sun is not literal you moron it represents satan and the light he brings to the so called elite. so you think that the worship of the figure ment to be all evil is better then the worship of a merciful creator? your either screwed up or just very dumb

      • you are all very ignorant, the sun god is not satan, the sun god IS GOD. you dumb christian people think there is chrstianity (good, loving, th truth) and everything pagan(bad satanic) you are so ignorant…. pagan is by no means the same that satanic, and paganism, occultism, hermetism and the like are not evil, allarticles in this page talk of occult imagery as something evil, you dont understand that the sun god, osiris, brahma, god the father etc. are different symbols for one single absolute truth, niether of them has anything to do with "satan" dumbasses.

        actually, christ is the same entity as krishna, horus, and quetzalcoatl. occult ideas and siymbolism hav nothing to do with the elites, and making people dumb ant controll them, its the oposyte, they are about knowledge, and the spirit, and about freedom for all humans, you christian imbeciles trapped in your duality of god versus satan dont know that christianity is jusst the same old pagan mystery religions but with new symbols? christmass is the birthday of the sun god mithras, the same "entity" that christ. so no, the sun god is not satan you stupid fucker stop playing the smart in internet and read some books on the history of religions

      • Tristan Harrell on

        Julian– You know nothing about Christianity. When you worship an object, or a planet, you have allowed Satan to take over your mind. You're doing what Satan wants you to do, so you're living for him. You may not be knowingly worshiping him, but the worship of an object is insanely evil and demented.

    • Shane # 1.) You are a fool. Imaginary Jesus? Don't you know that there is factual archeological evidence of his existence? Saying Jesus is imaginary is like saying king Tut is also an imaginary figure. You may not believe in what he stood for, but don't be so foolish in your remarks.

      • I absolutely believe in the historical existence of a man called Jesus. He was a good man who tried to show by teaching and example the loving way life should be lived. He was murdered by those who found him to be dangerous. His story was written by men who never knew him. It is estimated that they wrote about him at least 100 years after he died. They made up much of his story, borrowing from the myths that had grown up about him and each other. A cult sprang up from people who believed i the stories and thought him to be a god. This was called Christianity and became a major religion in part by order of Emperors and Kings.

        I believe in the fact that a very good man lived in Israel 2000 or so years ago. I do not believe that he was God.

      • TellItLikeItIS on

        His name was never Jesus. He was africoniod man, Yeshwa is a closer description of his name.

      • so that is an intresting spelling but i am no scholar of ancient writting. similairly i believ his name was yeshewa binyoden (phanetic) and that jesus christ is greek for "one who is annointed"

      • Jesus is the Greek form of the Aramaic name Ye'shua or Joshua — The Lord saves. In Greek, it would sound like "Yee-soos." That moves into other Indo-European languages as "Jesus" w/a variety of vernacular pronunciations. Christ is Greek for the Hebrew/Aramaic Messiah, the anointed one.

        He was a Jewish man, Hebrew, not Africanoid as one poster put it. Scholars believe that Luke's listed ancestry is likely Mary's side of the family. In any event, He was fm the tribe of Judah, as opposed to being fm Benjamin or Levi — the only other tribes still able to identify themselves. Matthew provides a stylized list of Joseph's family tree. It is entirely plausible that both Mary and Joseph were descendants of the great King David.

    • One's goals start in the mind(imagination) and the last step to the process is the materialization, fulfilling of those goals.
      Mathematics is proof of this. I can not understand the lack of mental power people have to
      grasp such a simplistic concept. The sun is no more than a galactic coal burning. You might
      as well worship the same piece of coal on your barbecue grill. Before man was able, through
      instruments such as the telescope, see the stars in the galaxy did they not exist?
      Just because people fail to realize and use the intellectual telescope to see GOD THE GREAT does
      not mean he does not exist. We were given A MANUAL (EMMANUEL)!
      USE IT!
      For example just to show how brain dead people are. In the KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE it says:

      Isaiah 40:21 ¶ Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?

      Isaiah 40:22 [It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

      I know you didn't catch that but it says "HE (GOD) SITTETH UPON THE CIRCLE OF THE EARTH"

      DE- EVOLVER!

      • AShane(a sin) on

        calm down, man..
        if he don't understand about that, then no one can save him..
        Just let him Go… 😀 (y)

        no need to CAPSLOCK.. 😉

    • Jesus did exist and he is God. iron age men are who worship the sun & the moon as they didnt know they believed only in what they saw. Can you see the atoms? can you see the wind? can you see your soul? can you see your words? yet they exist. The Holy Trinity exist, believe and pray and you will come to understand life.

    • I'd rather live my life as if there is a God, die and find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't a God and die to find out there is.

    • Actualy Shane, belief in God is not imaginary, it is what's known as faith. The 'faith' goes on to state that life is everlasting… the soul lives on after the body has died. Why worship the 'sun', as it to will one day die. But God will never die.

    • agreed. you got a problem with paganism? got a problem with pagan symbolism? got a problem with celebrating the cycles of the natural world?
      @YHWHZSON, your KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE is a lie. It is an incredibly flawed, politically motivated translation of a holy text that was cobbled together from various writings of charlatans and homespun prophets by a political group of stuck-up Romans. Also, You are quite correct, and mathematics does indeed prove this, but "one's goals start in the mind and the last step to the process is the materialization, fulfilling of those goals"-that right there my friend is the logic behind ritual magick, and indeed all of the occult arts and sciences.

      • AShane(a Sin) on

        @shadowflower :
        Bye, man..
        you'll get punished for what you've said..
        Just relax.. 😀

    • Ripp the jakka on

      You obviously know nothing considering first that most of life on earth is underwater and nearly 70% of it isn't in any need of water and that's only a fraction of whats actually discovered the rest is so far beneath water and again needs no sun at all, so it looks like you do not know much about science which is we're I assume u dwell on in the opinion of our Creator whom absolutely exists, and you can ask most doctors and physics ts with a much better education the You who will agree that there is unexplained factors of the world but there scientist they can onluyy admit it off record. Next to that there is pretty much more proof of actuall existence of Jesus Christ then there is of WWII… I think your ignorant but it's ok u r I the same realm of other lazy nonbeliever that feel the world should be handed to them. Maybe. Try using the power of prayer and you will see what divinity can come to you.

    • I don't think there's anything wrong with it. It's how these wicked people are using these beliefs to benefit themselves. Or to use it as a tool to scare people into thinking that pagans are all evil sun worshipers. These people pervert all religion, not just Christianity I like to think that it is a magnificent thing to have the sun there. I don't think it is god but it is apart of it, and we humans are lucky enough to see the sun rise and set everyday on this beautiful planet. If there was a heaven it would look like nature, what else could anyone ask for, it took god a great effort to create all of this so that we could be here. So you say, just because you don't believe in Jesus you go to hell, or are somehow a bad person, sorry to say, but that is psychologically fucked up to say to someone

      • The Bible states that he who does not believe in His Son, Jesus Christ, shall not enter Heaven gates. You either all in or all out. You can't believe bits and pieces of the Bible. It is His Word.

      • And who wrote the bible (designed to separate human beings, told before 500 years of good biology and physics)? A man, not your GOD, a human being. And if you dont know how much they lie by now, you have lived a very sheltered life. Do you understand people back in the day believed this because they had no understanding of death and they were scared, or because they would be killed if they didnt conform. There is no excuse now a days, just small mindedness. Our true creator (probably energy) gave you the biggest computer in your brain ever built and you still wont use it and find out about the world we live in for yourself, amazing. How ungrateful also to be so stuck on the next life that you do nothing to help your fellow human beings right here and now, starving to death, being bombed, raped, murdered. Much easier to sit around talking about the next life right? Wake up

      • Don't bother, Meryetamun. These Christurds are far too brainwashed and mindless to comprehend that God doesn't exist and that everything they believe in is a lie. They are literally mindless zombies, not unlike the groaning, shambling corpses from zombie horror movie.

        Don't talk with them or pay attention to them, or these accursed Christurds will brainwash you too with their crap.

      • '' These Christurds are far too brainwashed and mindless to comprehend that God doesn't exist and that everything they believe in is a lie''. HOW, just HOW on Earth do you know for a fact that God doesnt exist?? Do you care to share all the concrete proofs that give you the absolute certainty that God doesnt exist? You have to be all-knowing to know that for a fact and you must have at least the humbility to acknowledge that you simply dont know it. You cannot know, you can only believe or not. Calling people names wont make them believe less in God. Sorry, there is nothing you can do to take their faith away. You may insult them, scold them, discriminate them but you dont need to do all this. All you have to do is to prove your atheism to be correct and to provide concrete absolute proofs that will completely remove all doubts that there is no God. Can you do that? Can you prove your atheism to be a fact? Because to state atheism as a fact, like you did, you have to prove it first to be a fact. Can you do that? You cant expect people to believe you when you say ''God doesnt exist'', only because you say so, without providing any proof at all. In that case, you are doing the exact thing you criticize ''christurds'' for: making absolute claims with literally ZERO proof to back up the claims. If you cannot provide any proof for your claims, then you are in no better position than us believers, sorry. We believe in God because it makes sense to believe in Him. He has expressed Himself, His thoughts, His feelings in His creation. Believing in God it wasnt and it is not an absurd idea for many brilliant scientists of the past and the present. Newton, Einstein, Tesla, Max Planck, Max Born, Paul. A Dirac, Christian Affinsen, etc believed in God and many other scientists believe in God or in a High Power. Are they christurds too? Are you smarter than them?
        Oh to be atheist and to know for a fact everything that there is to be known, including that there is no God. All-Knowing atheists who know everything that even scientists dont. IDIOTS!

    • So true! People need to wake up and realize, the very people you have all been lead to believe by the powerful humans that be, to be devil worshipers are actually the ones that truly care about the human race and the earth and everything here with us. Why do you think they mock the pope and Christianity? Because they know it is all lies, to keep fellow human beings separated from each other, all worrying about the next life while they understand there is no next life and make their millions on the backs of us, the slaves. Why do you think the Vatican are so rich? While they have people starving to death right outside their walls, while they wear robes of Gold? Because they dont care about the earth and the human race living on for years, they care only about lining their own pockets here and now, because they know there is no next life, so they dont care! Why do you think they hide the original scriptures of the bible? Why is the fall of NYSE on this building? Because these people understand how evil its concept is, and every other big organisation in the world like it, and all the people that run it. Wake up people, we should not be living like this. Check out the Georgia guide stones. People have been lead to believe it is evil and the powers that be want to cull people lol dont you get it, the rulers want more people on this earth because they dont care about the human race, the more people (slaves) the more money generated. One universal language, human race all together, one piece of land, human race all together, one true religion (belief in energy, biology, physics and not heaven and hell, true paganism) human race all together. No cull, population can naturally be controlled with us all working together. Dont be fooled. The sooner we are all living as one, the sooner we will live without war and hate and the lies of the world governments we dont even see keeping us all separated by race, religion and pieces of land they labeled countries. Come on Human Race, we can do it

    • You know it for a fact that there is no God how exactly? You know it for a fact Jesus didnt exist, just how exactly? Share with us what makes you dead sure about, tell us what gives you the absolute certainty about, dazzle us. Ever thought of the possibility that there might be a God? What wuld be your excuse then??

    • AShane(a sin) on

      carefull with what are you saying, Man…
      you're in the wrong place..
      This is a Warn..

      but, i don't agree with you..

    • You misunderstood the author. These people are going to worship under deception, false pretenses of Christianity. If they want to be The Pagan Church of Humanism, that's what they should hang over their door.

  2. Shane will you at it, pray for the statue of liberty and the antactic ocean.

    GOD is not to be mocked buddy, but you know that don't you.

    • Whoever wrote this ignorant piece is truly one of Lucifer's warriors – get educated beyond your ignorance – Medieval Catholic churches were built on pagan sites and a lot of its and other christian churches perform strange rituals that have been corrupted from pagan practices, You live in an illusion. You are so grounded in your materialism you cannot see the spiritual connections and messaging the ancients were telling us. They were around long before powerful and greedy men constructed the fairy story that all religions of the world peddle.

  3. The first stone carving under "Apocalyptic Pillar" isn't just showing the Twin Towers collapsing – ALL the buildings are collapsing. If you look above the buildings you see waves of water. The scene is depicting the destruction of NY City from massive tidal waves. The second pillar also shows waves of water in the middle portion of it….

    • The Messenger on

      Not so. That scene is depicting the RAPTURE – the destruction of the world trade center towers. Soon the rider of the black horse of the apocalypse will descend on Magog and Gog – the perpetrators of that event. The abomination that causes desolation will soon be BEHIND BARS. Expect it.. God is great!

  4. Basil Oglenthorne on

    Resident of the White House Obama went to Easter sunday services at this occultic temple today. What more needs to be said?

  5. How wrong you are "Shane". Wether you belive that Jesus is the son of God or not, we do know that he has excisted. About 30.000(!) scriptures besides the bibel, is witnessing the existence of Jesus Christ.

  6. in response to this post:

    Shane April 3rd, 2009 1:38 pm :

    hummm what is wrong with worshiping the sun …far better than an imaginary God, or imaginary Jesus both of whom never existed in the first place … the Sun is Real, the Moon is Real, The Sun does provide life for 99.99999% of the life on earth. God is a delusion created by iron age men.

    I guess you missed the whole point of this article. The author was just simply illustrating the point that St. Johns Cathedral in NYC, a so called "christian" church, has been accepting a euchenimical agenda and allowing various types of world faiths and traditions to take place within a "christian church". God strictly forbids the mixture of such practices in the Bible many times and calls it an abomination. The author never once attacked any religions– in fact he says so in his conclusion.

    "Like I’ve said in the beginning, I do not condemn any faith, whether its Muslim, Christian or Wiccan. All faiths contain wisdom in their teachings."

    • This is true, and I agree. However one thing that I did not see the author address is the practices of Christianity. Christianity, during its rapid and semi-forced spread across Europe, adopted the traditions of the 'home' religions. Catholic Mass is the epitome of this. Its not that these Pagan faiths have copied or borrowed from Christianity, its the other way around. So for Pagan ceremonies to resemble Christian ones, or even each other, is not unusual. Neither is the idea for Christian ceremonies to resemble Pagan ones. Example: Christian choir dress. It is a direct copy of the dress of Pagan officiants who call or sing during their ceremonies. The author made it a point to discuss the dress and actions of individuals during different ceremonies and even provided video.

      "This is another pagan ritual, taking place inside a church. Notice the white robes everybody is wearing. (above picture of Man leading Horse)"

      Do not baptisms in Christian churches require white garb? A baptism is a blessing ceremony. Christians were far from the first to use white (symbolizing purity) robes for blessing ceremonies. The only reason Baptism garb has changed is because of modernization of tailoring techniques and Western styles. Explore the blessing ceremonies of some European countries. They are still very robe-ish and in some places have a complete lack of frills.

      Another example would be Christian monkhoods who wear the brown robes. Those came from the Druids who lived solitary lives devoted to one thing/purpose or another. Druids predate Christianity and its spread across Europe and invasion into the British Isles.

      While this author claims not to condemn any religion or faith, he seems to fail to realize that Christianity comes in numerous forms. There is no one Bible. That religious text has gone though so much over the centuries that it is guaranteed that the Bible he read is very different from the original work that was put together in an effort to bring together the first real Christian factions. Even then there was plenty of discussion and deliberation over exactly which texts would be included in the Bible. So this author's stubborn rejection of some of these ceremonies (which honestly resemble Catholicism to me more than anything else) comes across as a half educated denouncement of anything outside his particular brand of Christianity.

      • This stuff is Just Pain Weird and Bizarre in my opinion. I would like to thank the author for bringing this to attention. We can research things ourselves and we all have all own opinions and so forth.

      • Thank you for writing this. I was raised in a Lutheran church (which is a form of Christianity) but have since turned to Pagansim. I am always learning new things about my chosen path and one that comes up quite often is the surprising fact of how much Christianity has 'borrowed' from Paganism. I am not condemning Christianity by far, it has many merits, but no one should ever denounce the Pagan ways considering how many of them are present in our daily lives.

        Christmas celebrated on the 25th of December is modeled after the Pagan celebration of the Winter solstice on the 21st. The 'Yule Log,' the Christmas tree, Holly, and the giving out of gifts are all Pagan traditions. I do not deny the existence of Jesus Christ, but if there ever was such a person then in all likelihood he was born in late Spring or early Summer.

        Halloween is directly from the ancient Pagan religions; the holiday was originally called Samhain.

        I do not condemn any religion because all have their merits, I do condemn people who misuse religion as a way to put down others. The author seems to say the same thing but instead uses their own beliefs to put down the practices of this church. So long as they are hurting no one they are doing nothing wrong and should be allowed to carry one in their own way whatever that might be.

  7. The AZTECS,INCANS and MYHANS worshipped nature and the sun and moon they commted acts of bloody human sacrifice just many enviromentalist want to do

  8. amateras11 on

    you kinda forget that churches used to be pagan places called harrows but renamed churches back when christianity really took off…

      • You are correct. In Greek "church" is "ekklesia" — the ones called out. Synagogue means the ones gathered together. In both instances, church and synagogue are the people, not the building in which they meet.

  9. Excellent article.

    'you kinda forget that churches used to be pagan places called harrows but renamed churches back when christianity really took off…'

    This is one of those things that people ALWAYS say until it becomes accepted Truth – it isn't. Some Churches were built on some pagan sites. Er, thats it.

    Other accepted 'Truths':

    ‘Millions of women were burnt as witches in the late middle ages.'

    Well – maybe 40 000 to 50 000 tops, almost half of which were men, generally in rural places where the authority of the clergy and nobility was weak – and this is coming from genuine Pagan Historian Ronald Hutton.

    Another one:

    ‘The Catholic Church's teachings on contraception are responsible for the spread of Aids in Africa’ – an utter falsehood stemming from a faked up TV documentary by a BBC Activist – see the book 'Can we trust the BBC?' by ex BBC journalist Robin Aitken for a detailed itemisation of this put up job.

    I could go on – but the New Paradigm people are very willing to believe Propaganda of their own.

    Still, I guess with 'Angels and Demons' coming to a cinema near you (Evil Catholics massacre Liberal Illuminati) disentangling the Truth is going to be an ever harder uphill struggle.

    • is it jesus' teachings that led to the inquisition or even led to the catholic church? or did the church usurp christianity, putting it's official seal upon what became known as christianity, paving the way for everything but jesus?

  10. “And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
    13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.”

  11. Hi guys I have always been interested in seeking the "truth" whatever that may be, I was raised an anglican in Ghana West AfriCA, live in nyc actually not far from the cathedral, I called to find out if it was anglican and they told me it was and will encourage me to be part of the worship, did not think anything mcuh of it but after reading the article and comment i am having second thoughts, does it really matter what the church is promoting or does it really matter what your purpose it and your relationship with God. I intend to find a place where i can go and worship God, whom I beleive is the supreme being, if other people in the congregation belive something else will that be sinful or an abomination?

    • When you accept that Jesus sacrificed Himself for you – He comes and lives within you .. Joins your spirit into the Body of Christ with Himself the head of that church. The 'church' in this article is nothing short of a mask of satan… anyone who would like to worship in a place like this, surrounded by satanic symbols and those that secretly believe in them are decieving themselves – find a church of good sincere people who love the Lord Jesus and obey His teachings according to the Word of God (the Bible). Love urges me to tell you to turn your back in contempt of this monstrous fake church!! God Bless You!

    • The reality is that the 'place' does not so much matter as the 'time'. If you are devout and devoted to your God and to being the best Anglican you can be and to being the best person you can be, then it matters not what those around you believe. On a battlefield, you will never know what the soldier beside you believes. But you will still pray together because you both hope for a better future and to see the next sun rise happily on those you care for. It does not matter if you both worship in the same way or worship the same version of God. Just that when you worship, you do so in the best way you can. The only abomination is that it took a battlefield for you to pray together and put aside your differences….which from what I understand of this place, that's their goal. To create a place where people can gain understanding across these religious barriers. So they can worship together without the battlefield.

  12. It does not matter what you beliefs are, but what are your actions. Nanakofi it's ok that other people have different beliefs, but it's not ok if someone manipulates them. For me it's simple, if you wanna worship god, you don't need a sacred place, you just do it where you want because i don't think god will punish you for saying prayers in the wrong place. lol =)))) and this is why i think that the church (the actual building) is nothing more than a building, just as the priests are nothing more than people with the illusion that they are special(90% of the priests i have came across )

  13. Most Christians worship the sun anyway. Otherwise they wouldn't go to church on a SUNday, they would follow the example of Christ, who they supposedly follow and go to church on the Sabbath/Saturday/Seventh day of the week.

    Don't believe me? Do some research, try reading the bible for starters. Ask some older people which day of the week the seventh is (they've been silently changed the calendars in the last 20-odd years). And look into papal history (changed the 'Holy Day' from Saturday to Sunday at about 300 a.D.

    But there again, I'm not Christian, so why should I worry?

    Blessed Be,


    • what you mentioned is true. Even Christmas originated from the birthday of the "sun god" but christians blindly follow them thinking it's the birthday of Jesus or justifying Christmas as a means of preaching when it still does not change the pagan origin.

      Just like the beautification & symbolism of the cross and use of it – the cross originated as symbol of Tammuz (aka "sun god") and other forms of "sun god" worship used even in ancient egypt etc.

      But then again these christianized pagan festives were inserted into the churches over 1000 years ago so it's become traditions that people follow blindly.

      Took me quite awhile to find a church that doesn't keep the pagan rites or symbols.

      • I am curious. I haven't found a Christian church that has managed to seperate itself from the pagan roots of the homelands it overtook. I am not Christian, though I study Christianity in an effort to understand it and its people. Would you mind telling me what church you found and where it is?

  14. That so-called "pagan ritual" of the blessing of the animals is a tradition from back before your church split from ours! It's called The Feast of St. Francis. St. Francis spoke with animals, and even got a wolf to leave a small town in Italy where it was terrorizing the population for want of food. St. Francis is responsible for starting an order of monks called the Order of St. Francis. He also had the stigmata. The robes are priestly vestments and vestments of acolytes, or altar boys, and not everyone is wearing the robes, only the one acolyte is.

    What is being done in that video is called Liturgical Dance, which is something that has been around longer than the Christian religion, and probably dates back to the beginning of the world. Remember: King David danced before the Lord! The people in the video wearing the robes are Liturgical dancers, in order to separate them from everyone else. Don't your church choirs wear robes?

    The St. Lucia ritual is something that has been around longer than the blessing of the animals! St. Lucia went into the catacombs to feed and minister to the Christians hiding from their persecutors above ground. She wore candels on her head because, well, where else do you expect her to put them when she's carrying food trays in her hands?! The white robes are a sign of her purity when she died, as she was very young when she was made a martyr.

    The Winter Solstice celebration: it's a Church. While they're not supposed to be used for concerts, sometimes they are. Also, Christmas DOES have a LOT of traditions that began in paganism, but the Church took those and turned them into Christian traditions. Therefore, the artist is right on that.

    The Temple of Understanding is probably held because the Catholic Church in the US takes part in Interfaith Charity events,

    And the art: IT'S ART FOR FRIGGEN GOSH SAKE! Take it at face value!!! It's not unlike the art in and around the gothic Cathedrals in Europe, as the St. John Divine Cathedral is supposed to be representative of. There are many Christian churches that would agree with the builders of that pillar, and WOULD say New York is Babylon the Great.

    As for the Masonic magazine and the people who contributed to the building of the parish, they were probably donating money to write off on their taxes, and then wanted to showcase what they felt proud to contribute to.

    As for the Halloween thing, as a Catholic, I'm as shocked as you are. It's probably a New York equivalent to Mardi Gras, and has nothing to do with the Church property it's held on.


    • I know this is an old thread, however, just wanted to point out – this is not a Catholic Church! This is an Episcopal Church

    • Mc Metaphysical on

      I always find it amusing when people such as Moonchild are able to do the knowledge in the form of bein well read but aren't intelligent enough to connect the dots.

      toward the end of the rationale the potency of explanation dwindles down in the face of the truth so that art is only to be taken "at face value", the masonic magazine cover is for a tax writeoffs and the halloween celebration is a mardi gras.

      what is the origin of mardi gras? this is what you call intelligent ignorance.

    • MoonChild, go back to suck up to your Illuminati masters. You are probably a Satanist/Luciferian yourself.

      Yeah, i bet you love sacrificing kids, don't you?

    • It disturbs me when people claim to be Christians, Catholics, basically Believers in Christ, then when the prophesies of the Bible come to fruition they become conspiracies, the Bible is rewritten or some contrary story. You either all in or all out! I'm not saying I'm perfect but I believe in the Bible to be God's word so as I see government and religious institutions trying to dissuade me from my faith I am on alert. I will not be mocked or demonized for my Faith.

    • MoonChild;

      I promised myself I'd stop reading when I reached a post with some sense to it. I stopped after yours. Anglicanism is about the closest Protestant denomination to Catholicism, so I can see you tying them together. You correctly identify many ancient practices in your post. St John's has always been a space utilized like the original cathedra in Europe. This is the place where people gather and all manner of things can take place. Human things. Remember, God made humans and so, when there is a circus at St. Johns, it's not because there is disrespect meant to God. It's rather a form of praise and thanks for making us.
      Oh yes, the fountain's is a little weird in form but it depicts St. Michael the Archangel defeating Satan right before he is to be hurled into the burning pit for eternity. This is a pretty common motif and seems to be especially important to the Anglicans (See Coventry Cathedral). The pillar is there to remind the worshiper that all human endeavor, even the great undertakings of constructing a city and a financial empire, are temporary.
      I think you did great.

  15. The truth shall set you free on

    Thank you Vigilant Citizin for exposing those who are deceiving the world.

    To those who don’t believ in Jesus & God, I pitty you and I can only pray that your eyes will be opened before it is too late.

    For those seeking more truths…read the following book. “HE CAME TO SET THE CAPTIVE FREE” BY REBECCA BROWN. This too exposes those who work for Satan.

    It’s a reality whether you believe it or no.

  16. Good work! I notice alot of people always get this book wrong. It is the book of Revelation. It is not plural and it is the Revelation of Jesus Christ stated in the first line. It means an unveiling.

  17. Moon child,

    you dont get it. the entire point of the article is to highlight the occult vs xtian items in this house of alleged xtian worship. it is a temple of secular humanism, NOT legit xtianity. the temple of understanding is a UN affiliate to usher in the NWO's New Age Religion- worship of Lucifer- hence the Lucifer features in the outdoor sculpture. The rituals of masonry are EXACTLY like those of witchcraft, at least in the first 3 degrees. i took the tour of the inside and the stained glass windows are not of traditional saints to be venerated , but of figures from pop culture and celebrities. the tour guide pointed out the pyramid with the all-seeing-eye in between the two steeples above the front entrance. he also said the seated christ above the main door was carved to "be the 5 points of the pentacle". QUOTE.

    cool, hip? hardly. highly inappropriate as well as sneaky and manipulative. but your poo-poo dismissive attitude is very typcial of the deceivers who gloss over their deceits as "no big deal" or "you're being paranoid." the facts are in-your-face obvious. Vigilant citizen is right on the money here.

  18. I did not say anything was cool or hip! I said you called the book of REVELATION-REVELATIONS!

    You don't know the correct name of the last book of the Bible! You must be a Hoolywood producer because I've always noticed any movie on the big screen calls the book of Revelation, Revelations! Maybe you don't get it!

  19. It is always interesting to see so many points of view, which I think is a wonderful thing which shows the diversity of human nature. Insofar as the nature of the article is concerned I would agree that there is a deception as to the true nature of the church i.e. pagan rituals in a Christian church.

    The reality is that at the time of Christ whether historical or biblical speaking, the Roman empire had a very universal view of religion. This is in fact the reason why Christians were allowed to whorship (yes I know there was some persecution). In Rome you were allowed to whorship whichever God you wanted to. There was no limit so long as you afforded everyone the same right. In fact Roman times were the most religiously diverse times.

    What I see happening here is an attempt to return to those times, where pagan matriachial festivals are making a return and the patriachial semitic religions don't like it, because it is a challenge to their monopoly.

    The whorshiping of the female or the earth mother where all life springs from sits very uncomfortably with the patriachs rule.

    The question for the semitic religions is, can you abide with the freedom of religious practice for all as were dictated in Roman and our current Democratic times which is what, by the looks of it, the illuminaty claim to be doing. Or should it all be banished based on your religious belief as the Catholic Church tried throughout the ages.

    Your answer will give an indication of whether you are a supporter of freedom of thought and speech and religious whorship or a narrow minded bigot bend on crushing all opposition to your world view.

    As for the Semitic God of the OLD and New Testaments I say this, Any God who subjugates half the human race of whom my Mother, Sister, Daughter and all other women belong too is no God of mine.

    Gore Vidal puts it most eloquently

    "From a barbaric Bronze Age text known as the Old Testament, three antihuman religions have evolved –Judaism, Christianity, Islam. These are sky-god religions. They are, literally, patriarchal –God is the omnipotent father– hence the loathing of women for 2,000 years. The sky-god is a jealous god, of course. Those who would reject him must be converted or killed for their own good. Ultimately, totalitarianism is the only sort of politics that can truly serve the sky-god's purpose. Any movement of a liberal nature endangers his authority and that of his delegates on earth. One God, one King, one Pope, one master in the factory, one father-leader in the family home."

    Or Bertrant Russel

    "Christianity has been distinguished from other religions by its greater readiness for persecution. "The whole contention that Christianity has had an elevating moral influence can only be maintained by wholesale ignorance or falsification of the historical evidence.

    I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion, as organized in its churches, has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world.

    So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence".

    Think and be at Peace

  20. Long Beach Abe on

    Dear hmmmm:

    Apparently you know little of pagan history. How exactly were the Satanic Aztecs, Raping Vikings, Gladiatorial Romans, Cannibalistic Zulus, Imperial Japanese, Slave Owning Pharonic Egyptians, Human Sacrificing Druids, Wife Burning Hindus, or Female genital mutilating African tribes any more or less violent, intolerant, and patriarchal than the Semitic Religions. It is you and not the people of Abraham who speak from ignorance and irrational intolerance. And as a post script: Both Gore Vidal and Bertrand Russel were shameless apologists for Marxism, an ideology that has killed more people in absolute and relative terms in less than two centuries than all religions combined have in twenty centuries. A complete fail on your part. May GOD bless you and allow you gain some peace and knowledge from this post.

    • Long Beach Abe:yourthe one that knows nothing of pagan history, if you do, prove it and i dare you to show what you know of what you call satanist aztecs, fucking ignorant im from mexico and i bet you dont even know what yoy are talking about. all those things are par of human nature happen in all cultures, even today it has nothing to do with pagans and christians, and what, you dont call the witch burnings religious human sacrifice? you idiot an aztec shaman or an hindi brahman know what you call god better than you, or than any christian, including the pope

  21. not sitting in the t on

    Maybe the fight between christianity and paganism is just a farce organized by the Illuminati. Maybe its just another example of their Hegelian dialect in which two opposite groups fight in order to merge into something new. Maybe this something new is the unified world religion promoted by the Catholic church. In this view point Christians contribute as much to the establisment of the New World Order as their opponents, the pagan guys. The solution would be to not get involved with either of the two.

  22. I find this all very interesting. Just one question, do you find any symbolism in the fact that portuguese and spanish killed most of South America because they would not convert to christianity? What constitutes real and fake christians?

    • IMHO their brand of Christianity was in name only and for political reasons. True Christians… don't blow up abortion clinics or abuse gay people or whatever hateful things are done in the name of God and Christ… The best I can say is you can tell a true Christian 1) by belief in God 2)by belief in Jesus, that He died for our sins, and rose in 3 days, defeating death and sin and 3) "fruit of the Spirit"- love, peace, joy, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance… Not to say true Chrisians are perfect because they are not… but there has to be some evidence of life in Christ. Yes, that is judgement… and judgement is not always bad… condemnation is.

    • another one of those "truths" that people take without questioning.. native americans died from contracting diseases from europeans, diseases they weren't immune to.. there was no culling and persecution, native americans voluntarily converted to christianity

      • the only true "truth" you purport is that our peoples were indeed decimated from diseases spread from europeans-inadvertently at first,maybe,but by targeting the people,notoriously by the issuance of smallpox infected blankets (documented as late as the 1990s),as well as introducing firewater to draug & disarm those who survived,imploding our cultural mores & family,clan,and tribal units,knowing that our genotypes lack the chemical production that metabolises etoh;in modern terms,the use of biological & chemical agents as genocidal for the "voluntary" conversions,and absence of persecution & "culling"-im dumbfounded-however young & uneducated you may be,its time to learn some history;perhaps by touring the missions of the southwest,preferably with a guide whose ancestors died grusome deaths after being tortured,starved & enslaved by those kind priests who kept them chained to the high adobe walls that imprisoned them that they,in fact,had to erect.and this was After their voluntary conversions.even baptised,most were turned away from receiving the eucharist.almost all of these lovely fiefdoms still have graveyards on site teeming withs untold thousands-They testify to the Truth

  23. goldenage2012 on

    here we go again with sheer non-sense….it would seem as if any great city is accused of being some type of babylon,and in this case since new york is the worlds number one global city it takes all the heat and ridicule…

    well I almost went to the winter festival at st johns but couldnt make it..wish i did though,I would have probably enjoyed it………..bottom line is the sun and the planets are interesting and I always have been interested in them………and as for new york no city comes close to being the ultimate cosmopolitan city that it is ,to me most christians are close minded …even in the new testament it talks about three wise men and guess what ? they were into astronomy and astrology big wake up and realize that and stop being the hypocrites that you are.

  24. And still there are those, in great numbers, even the majority, that do not have the courage, the mind, or the wisdom to understand something is wrong with this world. As a result of this, we shall suffer greatly. The process is already underway.

  25. Pagans don't worship the sun you moron.

    This is ALL Christian propaganda and those who can't see it should be given what they deserve.

  26. “The Blessing of Bicycles – I won’t even talk about this, it is too stupid”

    I lolled at that

    Great site mate. The comments can be very obnoxious and opinionated, but the articles are top notch

  27. I'm glad that so many people are taking a keen interest in Christianity lately.

    All my life I have been a disciple of Jesus and watched the lot of you run

    willy nilly after worthless gain. Now I see many come looking for the Lord.

    Know you that if you just call His Name, Jesus, in earnestness you shall

    be saved.

  28. andrea preston on

    I have seen all this coming as I live right in the heart of New Age hedonism i.e. Glastonbury. I do not know where where people get the idea from that Christian churches were built on pagen sites. Pagan was a Roman word used to describe the native people of the countries they conquered. In Britain it was the British, now known as Wesh/Cymraig/Celts, who introduced Christianity to Britain . And it was the members of the elite, the soldier/saints who first built small churches on land, usually nextto water, for transport etc. They asked the local ruler,usually a kinsman for a tract of land, which they then enclosed within a circular ditch and embankment called a llan or lan in the West Country. people wanted to be buried next to the saint, their bodies being transported by water. Eventually settlements grew up aroun the llans.

    It was the E/W orthodoxy split that led to the demise of the British churc or Pagan church,it being replaced with Roman Catholicism. Over a thousand British priests (not druids) were slaughtered on the Field of Tears, following Augustine's meeting with the British Church.

    Neo Paganism was invented mainly in the 1950's and has no basis in historical fact. It is merely a cover for Satanic practises, as is the veneer of Hindu/Buddhist based religion. People have been blinded to this fact and so New Age practise and beliefs have permeated all levels of society. The 3rd World War/Armageddon is imminent, thanks to self centred man. New Age philosphies and practises also have their roots in Nazism and they practise eugenics. The Apsu (Abyss) has been opened to release the demons that lie within it (Babylonian/Mesopotamian). Satan is alive and well and about to engulf the world in fire. Neo Pagans are using Revelations as a blue print to create their Nirvana/Paradise/Arcadia and bring down the New Jerusalem. Pay heed to this, according to Revelations not one of you will be allowed into the New Jerusalem Rev: 22 verse 15. Your destination is the lake of fire Rev: 20 verses 14 & 15. You can not pick and choose which parts of the Bible you follow. Heed the warning of Revelations 22 verses 18 & 19. Nor can you select a date. 20 December 2012. Jesus said that you will not know the time or the hour.

    My ancestors did not impose Christainity on people and I object to the graves of Dewi Sant, Illtyd Sant and all the British saints being trampled on by New Age self centred crackpots. Yes Jesus did get angry, as did Paul, as did Yaweh. Angry with self centred hedonists who sacrificed children in the name of their gods.

  29. “When the missionaries of any man religion goes to them, he goes like a vendor of goods. He has no special spiritual merit that will distinguish him from those to whom he goes. He does however possess material goods which he promises to those who will come to his fold.” …. Religion, The Pyramid Game

    nothing other than garbage in and garbage out and indistinguishable from a garbage dump !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  30. The Fall of Babylon By Darren Smith

    The Lord kept me up most of the night bringing a word for me to share and to share now. Many times I wait until I have prayed over what I hear in my spirit, but I can't wait to send this word ou

    Last night while praying before I went to bed, The Lord gave me a vision that really rattled me. In the vision I saw this land split into four parts with each one under its own flag. Each region had terrible destruction and many people were dead. As I looked over the destruction I was crying and the Lord asked me why are you crying over the fall of Babylon? As a matter of fact, why have you been praying for the healing of Babylon? In this vision I didn't have an answer and the Lord opened a scroll and started reading of the indictments against our country, but before each one he clearly called the USA Babylon.

    Full article here

    Jeremiah 51:9 We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies.

    Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come

    out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that

    ye receive not of her plagues.

  31. Good work. This is a great awareness piece. Meaning, you have merely laid aboveboard the simple fact that: St. John the Divine Cathedral is not a Catholic, Christian, nor any denomination of Monotheism, temple or place of worship, but an occult-temple.

    However, I fear that you are implying that Paganism is an evil spiritual practice. Would you say the same for Buddhism, for example, whose Iconography depicts Hellish realms and demons of all genre, as an evil sect of spiritual deviators?

    The references made to Free-Masonry, is not news to me and other researchers, such as Jim Marrs, David Icke, and the hundreds of other Coast to Coast AM contributors, and sponsors. It is Historically evident that Satanists, Pagans, Christians, and even Deists congregate within Masonic Lodges. It is also evident that anything artistically done by a Free-Mason, even in modern-times, would require certain motifs and symbolism. The depiction of the Apocalypse is such a theme, as seen on the pillar you have photographed.

    But this is a common theme among the above mentioned researchers and authors, not something you are revealing, but the difference here is that you within this text have appeared to be writing with an intended bias.

    I am not defending any one Theology, such as Satanism, for I believe in nothing.

    Pointing out the Pagan rituals going on at this temple, however, is demonstrating a Fundamentalism, which is not healthy, at least for an individual that seeks to understand the nature of Spirituality within Beings.

    So, you are suggesting that these rituals are of Pagan origins. So what.

    So you are pointing out Masonic Symbolism within a Masonically built structure. So what.

    Don’t be a Fundamentalist.

    Go read “Rise of the Fourth Reich”!

    Ernie M.

  32. Vapour Trail on

    QUOTE: “Those buzz words hide however the means that will be used to obtain those objectives: “Peace” will only happen when all there will be a single world government. “Balance with nature” will only happen when the world population will drastically decrease and “harmony with the infinite” will only happen when the world will give up traditional religions to embrace neo-pagan humanism.”

    A very narrow-minded and, dare I say, leading conclusion. It leds you down a craxy path to the padded room. There undoubtedly is a pagan symbolism inherent in the structure, the proportions, the placement, the alignment, and the rituals enacted within that sacred space. As with all pagan churches throughout 10,000 years of human civilisation. Nothing awry so far, in my eyes.

    So, where does this NWO agenda conclusion come from? And why tag the term “humanism” to the end of “neo-pagan”? As though the two go together naturally. As though one is entwined within the other. Not so. Sloppy thinking. Leading the casual observer to your own poorly-conceived, ill-educated conclusion.

    I suggest you read some more books, then go out and meet the sun. You might even get along, and I guarantee it will not instill thoughts of a global government, genocide, enslavement, DNA-tampering, or any of the NWO agenda when you do so.

    Kindly take a care not to associate those elements that do not naturally belong together.
    Vapour Trail – an educated pagan.

    • RE: Vapor Trail. The NWO agenda comes from the “Temple of Understanding”, which is housed at St-John-the-Divine and lead by powerful supporters of this agenda. I’ve done my fair share of reading. You should maybe read about the founders of the Temple of Understanding and their ties with the UN, etc.

      The article doesnt bash Paganism itself. True paganism doesnt disguise itself in Christianity. The article bashes whatever dupes people into thinking its Christianity. What is preached at this Cathedral is a deformed mutation of multiple belief systems aimed to serve an agenda.

  33. "Just one question, do you find any symbolism in the fact that portuguese and spanish killed most of South America because they would not convert to christianity? What constitutes real and fake christians?"

    First off, while the Spaniards and Portuguese killed off many native Americans, the smallpox and other diseases they brought with them inflicted the brunt of the damage upon those societies.

    Secondly, a real Christian sells off all his/her belongings, lives poor, proselytizes and follows the laws and mores of the Hebraic religion as posited by Jesus Christ. About 99% of so-called 'Christians' fail to live by these biblically mandated requirements, so therefore they are NOT Christians in the truest sense of the word.

  34. seeker of knowledge on

    great post, lots of food for thought, I think the Denver airport could of been on this list,

  35. What's so upsetting or world-threatening about the blessing of animals, bicycles or cars? It's very common in catholic churches…You're right to laugh out loud with it, it's supposed to be a joyful occasion.

    • Beloved, let not your hearts be troubled. God is great, and still is good. He has made a plan! The Old Prophets, and some new, have warned and admonished us, but also gucen us hope. "Pray always, that you may be hid in THAT day. (Apocalypse) and that year be worthy to stand in front of the Son of Man"
      So it's possible to be hid away during all the horrors that these signs and symbols are vut birth pangs of…
      I hope you all will find faith, hope and love!

  36. The author is implying that anyone who has psychic abilities, practices yoga or has any knowledge of Hermetic sciences is thus, evil and dealing in black magic, this is of course not true. I find allot of contradictions when it comes to religion versus spirituality and science on this website, but i do understand these are all simply observations and i applaud you for bringing this to public awareness.

    • I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way. I am a spiritual seeker without religion, and have had mystical experiences, studied Buddhism, meditate, practice yoga, etc. I am definitely NOT evil and believe in living a positive, loving life. I have friends who are Pagans, even a good friend who is a pagan priest, and they're wonderful people with much light. I get seriously annoyed when everything non-Christian is lumped together as "SATANISM" on this blog, when things like magick and Hermetic knowledge can be used for good or ill–you have to be WISE, loving and responsible to walk such a path. Anyone can be good or evil, it's their choice, their strength of will and moral compass that determine how they conduct themselves–with love, or with harm and hatred. A Pagan can be a manipulative black magic practitioner, and a Christian can be a narrow-minded bigot (…my extended family). The same ignorance and negativity applies in both instances. It is the same as saying "rich people are worse/better than others." A rich person may be greedy and immoral, or they might have been lucky in life and generous with what they have, using their resources to better others. Money is not in itself evil, just like any spiritual path is not in itself evil. It's how you use it/walk it that counts. I am not talking about Satanism, which has its roots in causing suffering and pain to other beings. Such a practice is purely ignorant and negative in its orientation.

  37. andrea preston on

    Re Comment 36 , because someone calls themself a Christian, it does not mean that they are. Not all Christains go out with the aim to convery others, they just help, whether that be through a listening ear, a gentle hand, food to eat etc. The difference between Christians and non Christians is that they know that we are human and not perfect, hence repentance and forgiveness. Many Chritians do live by the needs and wants philosphy, and will give up their'cloak'. The thing is that they also follow Jesus teaching in trelation to the Pharisee's. in other words they do no stand in the middle of the street showing their goodness by dishing out free food, instead they help the hungry in secret. You can not judge who is a Christian and who is not, any more than you can judge who is a Pagan and who is not. It is the New Agers who are causing the divisions between people. Pagans and Christians do not have a problem with each other, I should know. Nor do Jews, Muslims and Christians have a problem with each other, which is why Muslims send their children to Church schools. New Agers worship the sun hence they mark the Solsyices and Equinoxes. Using the Wiccan 3 fold law, it has to be noted that South american tribes murdered people in their thousands, covering their pyramids with human blood. The Egyptians did not do the same.

  38. I suggest reading “The Nohide Laws” legislated into LAW during the Reagan Administration.
    Many articles relating to this LAW, including the transript of the LAW are available on Google.
    Is this a definition?
    Or is this LAW something else?

  39. The unfortunate followers of the Temple of Understanding are in reality following their father, the devil, a/k/a Satan, Lucifer. The Bible says these people duped by Satan will burn in hell for eternity. I pray for them that they will see the error of their ways and turn to Jesus Christ, their only hope for salvation from their sins and staying out of hell.

  40. this is what the world has come to.The atheists are alot more vigilant than God fearing people that is why evil is more prevalent today.Pedophiles get a slap on the wrist,homosexuality is promoted as a lifestyle,people have no manners,parents want to be their childrens buddies instead of teaching and disciplining them,children dont honor their parents etc etc etc.God fearing people raise your voices when someone blasphemes God,or subscribes to one of the above.Their are more of us than them ,they are just louder thats all.There is an attack on all church institutions to try to make them all seem corrupt,just remember this is an agenda and never lose faith or your spirituality.GOD bless and keep up the goog fight.(great article)

  41. Connie Dobbs on




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    IF you suspect that things are much worse than you ever suspected–

    IF the only thing you've been able to laugh at for the last 5 years is

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  42. Laird Giezuss on

    Looking at this article and then looking at your home page, one might get the impression that you consider the “Paganism” label to be interchangeable with the “Satanism” label and/or the “BAD PEOPLE” label. You seem to ignore the fact that Paganism predates the “official” (for official, read political) religions by many centuries. Since it predates “Christ-ism,” “Juda-ism” and that other Abrahamic device that we’re not allowed to mention, it OBVIOUSLY predates Satanism, since Satan is a creation of this “Big Three” group of population-control devices.

    People who presume to speak with authority, an authority based on membership in some portion of the “Big Three”(Big Tree?), always sound so…unauthoritative. To devalue science in the fear that it will stop the humans from terminally befouling their own nest…shame, shame…why, it’s science that has given you this internet tool, that you may use it to clutter the cyber-spaces with your…ideas. (you might consider having someone proof the text before posting…)

    Ms. Dobbs at #45, thanks for the lifeline back to “reality”–praise Bob…

  43. I used to live in the neighborhood of the cathedral. The only concert I attended there was of black Gospel singer-guitarist Odetta and her guitar strings broke during the concert. Somehow there always was something a bit odd, something that repelled me subconsciously because though I'm not a practising christian I do try to live up to Jesus's teachings, and as a music lover I could have attended some of the many concerts of classical music that the church has hosted.

    I once bought a book sold from a table on the sidewalk. It was about occultism and said that the members of some christian-protestant group, the one to which this cathedral belongs are secret satanists and reveal their true colors by being fans of the Grateful Dead rock band.

    A few years after reading this book a tragedy occurred in my life that made me consider suicide but I first wanted some advice from a spiritual person and went to this cathedral, and after I was asked to wait and waited for almost one hour a "priest" looking very gay, wearing pants that put his backside in starck relief, came to fetch me and I told him about my problem and above his desk was a poster of the Grateful Dead! He wrote down an address for me and on the square of paper was a pre-printed obscure and mean-spirited sentence , something like "I never put more than one foot in my mouth at a time". Imagine saying this to someone who just opened up to a priest, asking for spiritual advice!

    About the pillars: They were blank for many years and it was an on-going dilemma to get them sculpted. Finally the funds were available and some sculptors from many different countries were invited to sculpt. The scaffoldings were up in front of the cathedral in 1999. I saw them daily as I passed the building to go to the library nearby.

  44. Those who see this and refuse to separate will have no excuse for the WORD clearly admonishes us to separate and come out and that our Abba seeks those who will worship Him in SPIRIT & TRUTH…not show up for a church service in a building on a Sun worship Day…especially those that openly display pagan graven images and teach the doctrines of men…especially those like Paul who came in his own name/authority and was not really an apostle at all…

    St. John the Divine Cathedral…Divine? By whose definition and what god would that be do ya think… Lucifer the Light Bearer and Washington the most worshipful master god of Freemasonry thats who…

  45. Titus Sviatoslav on

    I found the pillar carvings interesting.

    I don’t think the Book of Revelations was written by John, the brother of Yeheshua. St. John the Divine was another character entirely.

    One can certainly make the case that “The City” of London is the “Great City” destroyed in Revelation 18.

    The rituals in that Cathedral are no more bizarre than the simulated eating of human flesh and drinking of blood that occurs at a Roman Catholic Mass.

    Weren’t some of the scenes in “The Devil’s Advocate” filmed there?

  46. One wacky chruch, err organisation, err whatever it is, BUT!!! I was impressed with the building, could make a wonderful Museum i guess.

  47. The name Jesus was used incorrectly by the clergy, his name was Jeshua or Esu. Esu never set out to form a religion, this was the work of the priesthood in concert with the Roman emperor Constantine to centralize power. Esu only wished for every man and woman to make an effort in being decent to others as well as to oneself, in other words treat others with respect and dignity. If every single individual were able to commit to such simple principle, this world would be a real paradise. By its nature mankind cannot have centralized power since it is still spiritually immature and always falls under corruption. Corruption has been the trademark of every man or woman that accumulates too much power in his or her hands.
    Centralized power is what the superelite is in the throes of achieving; one global government obeying, blindly, the rotten overlords Rothschilds, Rockefellers & Co.

    Do not be easily misled by the Vatican, which is the real prostitute of Babylon and is part of the same diabolical apparatus; this is why the pedophile priests that abused sexually the native children of the residential shools in Newfoundland, Boston, and countries in Europe are scott free, and real justice can never touch them. The Justice system or to be more exact the Injustice system is the buffer that offers them protection. This is why the victims seldom have a voice in this reversed, double standard freemason system. Alfred Rothschild was himself a pedophile who raped a child maid working for him. Why do satanists need to sacrifice children? Symbolically, this is the purpose of the pedophiles to traumatize or sacrifice the entire lives of vulnerable children. Pedophiles are the greatest evil on the face of the Earth and an abomination to our true Creator. The eradication of these subhumans would be too mild, for they are the real terrorists in this world; and they should have their hands, and testicles cut off and let them rot in a pit as dark as their nature.

    All religions with their boring, controlling rituals are the creation of man not of the Creator of Life, who stands for free will, and unconditional love. If the God of unconditional love were a tyrant these criminals would have gotten their punishment a long time ago. I too recognize that I have to evolve for I would not have any complacency with such reptiles and I would inflict them as much suffering as the victims’ trauma and perhaps even more. They are an aberration created by the forces of darkness to which these stupid, pathological freemasons are so devote to.

  48. Wow, we're impressed with the research and time that has gone into this project, Vigilant Citizen. Really impressed. Please don't quit what you do.

  49. So, pagans are not God’s children, too? By the way, the memorial service at the Blessing of the Bicycles for people who have died in car accidents is not ‘stupid’. For a Christian-defender you sure are full of intolerance and hate.

  50. Babylon the great is likely to be NYC.

    The key to the secret is how revelations describes it.

    John describes a woman sitting on the waters of a nation of many people and tongues. Well NYC is the only city in the world thats called the "melting pot," and that fits.

    The woman who sits on the waters of this "nation" is none other than the statue of Liberty which sits in NY harbor who John saw in his vision.

    When NYC twin towers gets hit, islam is dancing, and revelations says the people dance when Babylon

    the great is destroyed. it says that no one can trade with her any more. NYC is the center of global trade and commerce.

    It all fits; question it no more.

  51. Jesus did intend to form a religion. If not he would not have chosen an exact 12 men as his followers. and one leader, Peter who he explicitly calles the rock or foundation i/e the CEO of the whole thing.

    That you hate religion is your personal problem, but you try to make it public.

    Religion doesnt set out to control but to tame the pagan beast. In that taming has to be some form of control but of mostly behavior modification. This is what libs hate as they feel life is a free for all. No one in the christian faith holds you down, that is a perception of your own insecurites.

    You may feel something you read in a history book holds you down but it doesnt, because its in a book. This is the fatal mistake you book nerds make. You cant discern between history and the reality of the moment. its your sickness. thats like saying you read a book on slavery close the book more determined than ever to free slaves. LOL

    Priests are no more made gay than a gay man who hates beting told that he is made gay. Hence religion doesnt make a priest gay. Gay men enter into the priesthood, not the opposite. This is the lib double standard: one standard set for themselves and another for others: its the piss arrogance of libs.

    But libs hate of religion due to your insecurities puts them on a witch hunt of the religious; forgetting the history books that warned them of mob behavior that they claim to hate.

  52. ZOGnightmare on

    Another proof that the USA absorbed all the scum of the earth. Who cares if this perverted city be flooded or not, but I guess the ruling elites a re looking forward to that moment, preparing the broad masses for such event with their , so numerous lately catastrophic movies. It is clear that in the event of global catstrophy people will be completely at the mercy of government who will do all he deems necessary to "save" the humanity

  53. "When NYC twin towers gets hit, islam is dancing, and revelations says the people dance when Babylon

    " BS dude, they were israeli citizens atop of the truck dancing and skipping for joy, they knew that USrael will fight back tilting at windmills, and as it was after the WW2, they were Israelis who profited by it most. Later on breaching all the conventions ISRAEL was estabilished

  54. God will show himself strong, and these ppl that mock him…will be punished..God is the creator….how can ppl be so evil n distorted?? But then again, satan is like a roaorin lion n the great deciever.

    As they say in my church, the devil is jus makin fire sticks for hell so that the fire won't be to hott for him. And he knows dat he has but a short time..God will make this world clean again…his way!! Not the way that these evil men want to make it clean by killing innocent ppl.

  55. The Cathedral Church of Saint John the Divine, is the Cathedral of the Episcopal Diocese of New York. You read that correctly. It's Episcopal. Anglican. Not Roman Catholic.

  56. Either way the Cathedral Church of St. John is blasphemy. If you look at popular tv shows the mixture of relgions is becomming more prevalent. So this only confirms suspicions. Also we don’t have on the government for everything. It would behoove all of us to learn how to grow plants, harvest water, generate energy and use plants and the earth for medicine. You’re way behind, don’t be one of the maidens that didn’t have enough oil for her lamp!

  57. OK… Number 1, you post ONE video, have u watched any of the others available?

    Number 2, the "Halloween Extravaganza" looks to me (I am Southern Baptist by the way) as if it is symbolism NOT of satanic worship or Pagan rituals, but as symbolism of all the evil entities, spirits, demons, whatever; that come forth on "All Hallows Eve" to entice souls to return with them. Hence, ALL THE PEOPLE IN DEMON REGALIA ARE MAKIN HAND MOTIONS TOWARDS PEOPLE ATTEMPTING TO "PULL" THEM IN TOWARDS THEM, THEREFORE TRYING TO ENTICE THEM TO COME WITH THEM. Also, many christians do not celebrate halloween due to these very beliefs, we never did; as such our churches usually arranged alternative worships or activities giving us something spiritual to do on halloween… which this seems to be something much of the same.

  58. Well this isn’t really any surprise. It’s commonly known that most Christian celebrations were designed around Pagan holidays as a way to replace those holidays for converts.

  59. I really enjoyed the article, thanks; can't say the same for much of the comment section though.

    You christian types really make me puke, lol…no, really. Bunch of know-it-all fucks who don't actually 'know' anything. As for 'god fearing', not in this life; any god that wants me to fear him can suck me, lol.

    Kudos to those with some insight, worldliness, courage.

  60. The only wacky thing is this discussion. Where does all this fit with the mission statement of the church – “To build and nurture a Christian community; to support the mission of the Cathedral; to offer opportunites for exploring and expressing spirituality, affirming the diversities that exist among us; above all, through worship, service, and example, to bear witness to Christ’s healing and reconciling love to neighbors, pilgrims and visitors”. This Cathedral is obviously cutting edge, but what is wrong with that? The Procession of Ghouls is performed by the Mettawee River Theater Company in the hands of a Mr Ralph Lee; therefore it is theater. Cathedrals are often venues for the arts in various shapes and forms. Halloween has links with the ancient Christian Festival of All Saints’ Day, and as for the comments about the Feast Day of St Francis, and blessing of the animals…… A very distorted and sad view.

  61. At the end of the day, I feel like so much of the philosophy behind the NWO makes perfect sense, except for one thing:

    If the people who control industry and the economy had set it up so that all Humanity benefits from progress, instead of just the favored elite, then I would be behind the plan.

    But they didnt. They impoverish 90 percent of the world deliberately and systematically, to gradually set up the conditions to kill off billions. Its a fact that the earth could support billions MORE people than now – IF we allocate the resources effectively and do everything efficiently. Instead, we have countries selling each other weapons to blow each other up and kill people in a vicious cycle, all in the name of Profit.

    If they had included us regular people, I would support the NWO. But they just want us to die.


  62. We are nothing but highly evolved monkeys clinging to a rock that is falling through space….and the rock is dying.

    Also, please, please, check your spelling people.

  63. @Thunderscot

    How does a rock die???? They may become eroded or they break or they split but die…i have never heard that one before!!!

  64. How many posters to this site have actually attended a service at St. John the Divine? I attend services here every Sunday. If you did, you would know that this magnificent Episcopal Cathedral is a place where people of diverse backgrounds come to be touched by God's love. We believe that all human beings deserve to be treated with respect and dignity, and that the love of God surpasses all understanding. We feed and house the homeless, educate children, and encourage discussion across the spectrum of faith and philosophy through worship, and also through song, art, dance, and drama. It is as "Christian" a place as I have ever seen.

    How sad that so many here have looked a at a few pictures out of context and get so misled about this wonderful place.

  65. The Christian bias here is all too evident. It’s bad enough that world leaders believe that they are communicating wtih and doing the bidding of unseen (like, ever) spirits and demons and are using this as an excuse to act evil but then to have a site which claims to be an attempt at enlightening people rally against those who believe are ‘positive’ pagans. Everyone has a right to their own personal belief structure, there is nothign we can do about that, it’s when that belief structure is heavily enforced onto cultures and countries when it becomes a problem.
    I.e: The Christian-Judeo-Muslim belief systems. I can’t think of any three other religious faiths which have infilitrated and society to such an extent and shaped the way it is as those three. Plus. Christian symbolism is notoriously swagger jacked from Paganism, ancient mythology from all around the world including yes, Egyptians. The facts are there.
    No body whether they call themselves a Lucferinism or a Buddhist has the right to enslave people’s minds or dictate their personal choices and that’s why I read this site. Anyone who attempts to use their own beliefs as a means by which they might crush other people is unspeakably unjust, I don’t care what they believe. I have no problem with people talking about what they believe and expressing that if they want it’s when it becomes a matter of enforcing that ideaology into the ‘non believers’ daily life that I have issue with.

    If we are all either going to end up reincarnated or going to heaven/hell then well maybe that’s what will happen but that’s really an abstract argument, right now in the present in this current state we should be reclaiming our minds and land and stopping the ruling classes, the church, the state etc from utterly destroying what humanity we have left.

  66. I just don't get the connection to Freemasonry. The Masons are not satanists or terrorists planning a world takeover. They have some rituals that are strange to us, but so do fraternities and sororities. In my opinion, the dangerous drunken frat idiots are more dangerous than these nice old men who are part of a brotherhood that does GOOD in the world.. or at the very least, they have formed a positive community of men to be their second family. A recreational group that doesn't hurt other people (they help.) There are a LOT worse things they could be doing.

    I really love this site though, I think you are very intelligent and you point out some very strange things that DO need to be questioned. I just want to understand why Masons are being dragged into this… as a descendant of a 33rd degree Mason, I interpret it as slander and it really bothers me! If Masons are evil, then what do you call the rest of the men who are out at strip clubs and casinos… sleezy night clubs… cheating on their wives… drinking and driving… they really are "a cancer on the earth."

  67. What the Church and the builders of the Church appear to have also missed is the fact that this time is being shortened for the sake of the elect exactly as predicted.

  68. It is understandable that the John the Divine Cathedral would depict aspects of the Book of Revelation and yes the USA is mentioned in Rev 13, 17,18 and 19. However, do remember that the followers of Jesus were warned not to build upon his foundations with building materials and those that did would burn in the flames in the last days of the end times. Jesus also told the Apostles that the temples would come tumbling down in the last days and that his holy Angels would throw away the bad fish.

    The debate on whether Jesus Christ is God

    Numbers 23:19

    The original translation in the Torah the words are different.

    God is not man to be capricious, or mortal to change his mind. Would he speak and not act, Promise and not fulfill.

    In other words God doesn’t act like man that thinks he is mortal.

    In the Aramaic text it as follows.

    God is not a man that he should lie: nor the Son of Man that he should be given counsel; he speaks and he shall do it, and his word abides forever.

    The above does clarify the position and it is clear in the above passage that the Son of Man is not God because the Son of Man receives counsel from God. The title Son of Man is also a title given to the prophets. As we know Prophet Ezekiel was also called Son of Man and in the Aramaic text Daniel is called Son of Man as well.

    May you gain a heart of understanding.

  69. Sumerian God King on

    As far as freemasons and the so called illuminati…mere fiction to destract away from the real boogeymen behind the curtain

  70. Sumerian God King on

    Our leaders think they can manipulate the timeline with magic and technology. They have even gone so far as to create CERN a sort of stargate to prevent what is to come.
    They cannot stop what is to come

  71. Saint John the Divine?….hmmm. The Saint John of the bible is not divine but human. He was an apostle of Jesus Christ and a servant of God who died a natural death after a good old age. I think the saint “john” the divine of this church is another pagan idol.

  72. @ aldolas. I know this is months late, but by your logic, Christians would be worshipping something other than God no matter what day of the week we attended church. Saturday = SATURN day. etc etc. Your argument is weak and invalid….sorry

  73. golden age, you know nothing. besides, the Christian Bible doesn’t even say how many wise men there were. You obviously live by word of mouth and not by reading and understanding for yourself.

  74. George Wetherington on

    The St John of the masons is only the date of its anniversary of being founded or nenewed. The 33rd degree represents the age of Jesus when he was murdered. This degree was first given by King Herod Agrippa to founders of the Mysterious Force in AD 43. An association founded and dedicated to the destruction of what Jesus called the Holy Ghost, and to the removal from the earth of the partisions of Jesus. This king also gave Hiram Abiud which he changed to Hiram Abiff the title Master taken from Jesus. This 'Mysterious Force' name was changed to Freemasonry in 1717. The greatest of their secrets was the date of its founding and the names of the founders, and of course the fact that it was founded by Jews determined to save the Jewish Religion and their nation, by determining to kill any way possible the followers of Jesus. These 9 founders kept a secret transcript designed for only the decendants of these nine. The stuff is out there, but who wants the truth at this late date?

  75. I have been doing alot of research because of sites like this and realize that alot of things that appear to be Christian have been heavily influenced by illuminati etc., but what the following said : “Occultists believe that the Book of Revelation has been hermetically coded to reveal its true meaning to the initiates of esoteric teachings” has almost taken away any hope I have of trying to negotiate through the end times mess we’re in.

    I was hoping that the book of Revelation was a bulwark of pristine Christian thought – meaning that the occult would and couldn’t have anything to do with the book since it seeped the Lord Jesus Christ since the book is the revelation of Jesus Christ I thought why would the occult want anything to do with it.

    Could you please tell me more information about how the occult interprets and uses the book of Revelation because the way it looks to me from what has been said is that they read it as if its one of their books and from what I gather get the same results as I have. I mean to me if I were to pick one city to be Babylon today it would be NYC from what I read in Revelation.

    So the line is way too blurry now, I mean I thought the Revelation was a gift for Christians, like a play book to navigate through end time scenarios such as the mark of the beast that would inevitably come because of evil’s progress, now it looks like they’ve been studying that same play book all along and are just sitting back playing with us till they feel they can move ahead another step – I don’t know it’s kind of like they’re playing both sides, hedging their bets.

  76. actually in Christianity God is NOT separate from creation. In Him we live, move, and have our being. How can God be Omnipresent(everywhere present) and separate from creation? Heaven is not a location. Here’s another example of humans corrupting spiritual concepts with their own limited mortal/physical concepts.

  77. It seems we have learnt nothing … we still prefer to find seperation then togetherness via acceptance that we can be different !

    The God in my heart is about compassion, compassion for all living things, all beliefs, as long as we live with compassion we learn, we grow and flow more with ourselves, nature and all we don't understand, when we see beyond the narrowminded "its has to be my way" then we evolve spiritually with compassion.

    There is little compassion in these times, just finger pointing, blame and judgement of those who do not side with our views, no responsibility taking for the way we live, just blame and take …. what a terrible shame.


  78. I am deeply shocked, DISGUSTED and REVOLTED that such idolatry can take place in a "church". There is no way that God can be glorified in the same place as evil. It is a shame and gives Christianity a bad name. May God have mercy on the Church proprietors.

  79. hmmmm. Shane when will you believe in GOD?? When the moon is covered in blood?? Do you need to see something in order to know it is there?? I can not see oxygen but I know it's there… I can not see gravity but I know it's there! Historians Christian and unchristian alike can never say that Jesus did not exist.. That's like saying the Roman empire didn't exist.. He did exist, he did perform miracles, he is Lord of Lords!! One of the wisest men who ever lived was King Soloman, in the book of Proverbs he said " Only the fool says in his heart there is no God".. The earth is a testimony to his existance! Open your eyes…… God Bless

  80. @Andrei…Church is all about communion–being amongst other believers of the same faith. It is to stay focused, be encouraged, fellowship, growth, learning, and solidifying the foundation, as being around non-believers and people of other faiths tend to slowly, gradually affect ones own beliefs.

  81. OMG!!! So that’s the reason why we celebrate Christmas?(Paul Winter’s Winter Solstice Celebration)
    Another question, the celebration of Christmas is a pagan ritual?

    This is another shocking revelation.

    Hey can you make an article about the Catholics, the Popes, etc. What are there roles? Are they evil?

    Please answer me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Im very very confuse….. And seeking for the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!

  82. the city of new york is gona be destroyed by atomic bomb

    the zionist wil do it and finally blame iran for it

    like sept eleven you know the did and blame the muslims;)

    al you have to the is read the protocols simple

  83. @jessah – Don't despair about these things, satan will use anything and anybody that he can to keep you from the truth. I think many or most of your questions and concerns are covered here. There is a lot of info so take your time and browse around, specially the Q&A section.

    • Hey, Bob, I looked at your "Non-Denominational Endtime Bible-Based Christian Studies,
      Current Events, and Christian Questions & Answers" website and saw a lot of anti-Catholic stuff there. Do you know that this is a Protestant cathedral, not a Catholic one? Unfortunately, it seems that satan has used something and somebody to keep you and jessah from the truth. Well, now you know.

  84. League of the Truth on

    VC, you are amazing in your research. I would argue that much like the protocols of Zion, revelations serves as a game plan for the illuminated ones, passed down (whispered) thought the generations. St John the Divine is no more prophetic than Nostradamus. It can't be prophetic if there are groups of people behind the scenes who are working to make those very "prophesies" come true. Hmm i.e. the brothers Grimm. I implore all to see pass the veils in which the illusion weavers have spun and that includes all so called prophetic writings. Everyone who would like to decontextualize "prophetic works", and quote them for there own argumentation should realize one blasphemy can not be used to replace another. The "secret" to all esoteric works is … intention. If your intention is love, love will be returned to you. If inequity is aspired, then hate will be returned to you. E=mc2. Spoken from a true "illuminated" one such as Einstein. If you choose to serve the masters of dualism then you will befall your own conceptual design. Namaste

  85. read between the lin on

    Good work VC, I thought they had creepy things happen there as well. The Episcopalians have definitely undergone some interesting changes this past year. Not to mention they have an abundance of gay ministers. Obama's opening prayer was performed by a gay Episcopalian minister, if I remember correctly.

  86. Our end goal is a positive one. The youth of future generations will be illuminated to this fact. Ignorance, fear and superstition have ruled for so long that we must whittle away at the numbers in order to start over again with the same power structure and begin again correctly…

  87. Could someone with greater knowledge of St. Paul / New Testament help me out here?

    The writer of this article concludes with a warning from Paul to the Corinthians that seems extremely hypocritical, and undermines/contradcits the writers' entire argument — look:

    "…for such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder. For satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light."

    (ll Corinthians 11:13-15)

    Correct me if I'm wrong…but didn't Paul see a LIGHT on the way to Damascus, that claimed to be the Christ (whom Paul never actually met in the flesh)? And didn't Paul them APPOINT HIMSELF as one of Christ's apostles?

    So who is Paul to preach to anyone, to beware of "false apostles" who "transform themselves into apostles of Christ"… that might be deceived by "satan himself" transforming himself into an "angel of light?"

    Am I the only one who caught this? Can someone out there please comment on this? I'm not trying to be satirical either. But this Corinthians passage not only makes me question the legitimacy of this writer's argument (judging St. John's as not being Christian) — but its now got me questioing whether Paul was full of crap and perhaps even under the influence of a deceitful spirit (maybe satan) having revealed himself to Paul as a light….?

  88. I had absolutely no idea whatsoever that these things took place in this cathedral. I cannot believe what i saw and read. It's the worlds largest satanic temple, right in the middle of NYC. THank you for this article.

  89. SHANE you've comitted blasphamy! the sin thats not forgiven. understand this, if u believe there is no GOD, tell me how the word and concept of GOD came about??? you have no clue do u? thought so. God, Jesus, and the holy ghost are one in the same, we as a people are put on this earth to serve God! He is our creator and provider. U should've really thought and prayed before you opened your mouth. Whether you believe or no, God is real! there is no such thing as weapons of mass destruction, ITS PLAINLY A HOLY WAR! a fight for the holy land. for all those reading this take time to read your bibles. Since we're talking about sun worship, here's a good quote "there's nothing new under the sun!" all of these clues && new world order stuff, was prophicy from the bible! The devil is at work to damn MAN to hell, as he is himself. Pray, Get your relationship right with GOD! the end is upon us, and you need to make a difference. the narrow path is the path to righteousness! meaning, not everybody is gonna make it. Free will= your chose to be saved or not. YOU EITHER CHOOSE GOD OR CHOOSE HELL. there is no middle man. if you choose to be silent you have chosen the dark path. Jesus wasnt afraid to speak the word, even when nobody would listen. Jesus said, "Deny me on earth and i will deny you in heaven." dont wait til its too late. so many people are leaving this earth young, dont leave without believing and accepting Jesus as your lord and savior. Selling your soul for earthly posseccions aint worth eternity in hell/lake of fire. You're only promised 70 years, some dont even make it to 21… why would you choose that way over a mansion in God's Kingdom. Temptation? of course theres always gonna be temptation, the devil tried to tempt the son of God himself. what makes you any better. as long as you live and breathe this air, you will always be tempted to do evil. the only person who can prevent it is YOU! you have the chose to say yes to the devils evil manipulating, deceitful ways, or NO. but you make that chose. now understand that when you do say yes, you will be held accountable for that on judgement day. Dont try and cry and blame the devil in front of God. IT WAS YOUR CHOSE! KEEP GOD FIRST IN ALL THAT YOU DO, GIVE HIM THE GLORY ALWAYS, AND THANK HIM FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE AND THE FACT THAT HE CHOSE TO WAKE YOU UP THIS MORNING AND ALL THE OTHER DAYS. You OWE HIM YOU PRAISE FOR HE IS GOD! and preach this to others dont just sit and be silent. train up your children, and tell people about the many blessing and how wonderful OUR FATHER is! he love you no matter what, he will always be there for you just knock and the door shall be open, ask and you shall receive, those are HIS words not mine [READ YOUR BIBLE] FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHO SO EVER BELIEVE IN HIM SHALL NOT PERRISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE! God is Love believe and put your trust in him!

  90. To all my Christians reading this post; do not concern yourselves with things of this passing world. Be separate from it and hold firm to your faith and the truth and grace that abide in you. Once you learn to control your tongue and master your own sinful desires that wage war against your spirit, you will be able to overcome the evil that seeks to defile you with its tainted fruit. ALL of the entertainment industry, not limited to movies, music, radio, and books is controlled by deprived perverted men and women who worship SATAN and serve him willingly. Do not defile yourselves with this cleverly and at times subtlety concealed witchcraft. Do not believe all the hyped up monarch programming and such as it is nothing more than a state of demon possession. The TRUTH is simple, every single one of the people you may or may not recognize as evil has willingly entered into a state of possession and once that happens they are no longer able to control their thoughts, words, or deeds. That is what possession is all about, i.e., not being able to control your urges and in essence not being in control of your own self. Put your trust in the Lord and He will keep you safe, and remember that to you has been given the power to trample over snakes.

  91. " Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." – JOHN 8:44

  92. Tid Bit: The "Master Building" has a perfect view overlooking this cathedral from the very top of the building. The Master Building was built in honor of Nicholas Roerich, a Russian mystic who played a major part in the FDR administration, it was during this administration that the "Great Seal" was placed on the one dollar bill. The position of the Master Building in perfect vision with St. John the Divine Cathedral is certainly not a coincidence, as they are both representations of evil work done against God and humanity.

  93. Really? YOGA has been condemned by the CHURCH??? Since when???

    You guys had me interested. However, I only found one error (Yoga) however this leads me to believe that you may have more in your article (some cultures I cannot speak of due to lack of knowledge on my part. Indian culture I am quite aware of.)

  94. LoL! The Lucia celebration is a fairly recent Christmas custom in Sweden. It has no occult significance. It started out as a student event at the university of Uppsala in the late 1800s. Most of the songs sung are christian hymns or christmas carrols about Santa and the like. Lucia was a saint of Italy who did good to poor people. The allusions to light has no other meaning than that december in Sweden is very dark and a little bit of light and beauty cheers us up. With that said the very date for Lucia celebration goes back to pre christian times in Scandinavia. However none of the rituals performed in heathen times are present in the Lucia celebration. It is about as upsetting as a christmas tree.

  95. The blessing of bicycles is nothing to make fun of, as a Catholic I have blessed my house and my car, its just that Catholics believe in divine protection of the person when the possessions are blessed, and NY has a large bicycle riding population, so the riders, through their faith , believe in the protection given to them by this ritual, its something that happens in Catholic churches throughout the world.

  96. Mahatma Gandi said: "Truth is God and God is Truth." One must then ask 'What is truth?'

    Didn't most religions come from paganism in the first place? Religions certainly incorporated pagan holidays, rituals, and festivals. This cathedral "extravaganza" looks like the "grand masked ball" in Venice. The costumes are right out of a Hieronymus Bosch painting! Maybe he was painting something he saw. This is high drama and theatre to entertain the "flock." Please recognize that religion is entertainment and must compete to keep it's members and convert new followers. The purpose of religions has always been to engender conflict, duality, and blind faith, so why are these bizarre rituals surprising? Personally I see nothing wrong with honoring the sun, stars, earth, nature, the universe, etc. Most religious "saviors" were sun gods anyway. "A person afflicted by false knowledge suffers from delusion and believes he alone has seen the true light." Religions play upon delusions endlessly. Thanks for these fascinating posts and videos! Your website is great!!

  97. "and glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls!" … don't know if you are aware of this, but approximately half of the USA's 8200 tons of gold are in NYC depositories; along with additional thousands of tons held on behalf of commodities traders, the very wealthy, other nations, etc. As well, the diamond trade is very large in NYC. Not sure about pearls however.

  98. please site this quote you used VC

    “The Temple’s purpose is to facilitate the one world religion, through the promoting both the acceptance and the embrace of all religions, beliefs and rituals. The Temple of Understanding’s Meditation Room was to be known as the “Hall of Illumination”‘ where the Illuminati, Masters of Wisdom, Our Leaders of the Temple of Understanding will train the public in the new humanistic cult…to create a new type of mystic”

  99. Well hate to say it but the only thing that is REALLY weird are the Halloween procession and the sculpture/pillars you pointed out. Those are weird.

    Animals however used to spend days in the Cathedrals of Europe. At Easter (another pagan holiday made Christian) in Polish Catholic churches people bring their food to be blessed so you kind of veer off to make a point on something that actually is quite normal. I think you miss out by not accepting the fact that Constantine decided that making everyone follow Christianity was going to unite all of the civilized world at that time AND incorporated the "pagan" observances in of Solstice, etc.

  100. Is it just me or do the people in white robes with the pointed hats look like the KKK? I believe the KKK got their style from these folks…seriously. Also, isnt is weird that KKK used to burn crosses, but claimed to be a christian group?

  101. Duncan Idaho on

    "Mahatma Gandi said: “Truth is God and God is Truth.” One must then ask ‘What is truth?’"

    There was a guy in the Bible who asked that same question.

  102. I agree with 99 percent of this article, but St. John is NOT credited for writing the Book of Revelation… Peter is.

  103. lahinar lamir on

    Romans 1:10 -32 says.they know God but will not warship him,instead of worshiping him,they warship but the things he has this manner God has abandon them to their wicked desires and now men turn to desire men and women turn to desire women for sex which is against the laws of nature and therefore they will face the punishment which they rightfully i know Christianity is the true is the only book that has foretold the coming of time and they are happening in my time.V.C thank u very is time for me to move closer to God than b4.cos what i have seen, hum Jesus might come sooner than we expected.cos he said when u start seeing the abominations in the holy places let those who live in houses flee to the mountains.and that is it already happening in saint John Cathedral.

  104. The White robes are a sign of purity and worn by christian monks and priest quite often – The idea is to wear a simple, unpretentious, unadorned robe – something like Christ might wear …

    Its called an ALB, and is available through clergy supply shops –

    Wikipedia says:
    The alb, one of the liturgical vestments of the Roman Catholic, Anglican and many Protestant churches, is an ample white garment coming down to the ankles and usually girdled with a cincture. It is simply the long linen tunic used by the Romans. In Early Medieval Europe it was also normally worn by secular clergy in non-liturgical contexts.[1]

    It is the oldest liturgical vestment, and was adopted very early by Christians, and especially by the clergy for the Eucharistic liturgy. Nowadays, the alb is the common vestment for all ministers at Mass, both clerics and laypersons, and is worn over the cassock and under any other special garments, such as the stole, dalmatic or chasuble. If the alb does not completely cover the collar, an amice is often worn underneath the alb. The shortening of the alb for use outside a church has given rise to the surplice and its cousin the rochet, worn by canons and bishops. Post-Tridentine albs often were made with lace. Since then, this detail has fallen out of style, except in parts of the Anglo-Catholic movement and some very traditional Roman Catholic parishes. In many Anglican parishes, the alb is decorated with apparels. In most High Anglican churches, the Alb is an undergarment worn under the vestments. In some lower and broad Anglican Churches, the alb is considered everyday wear.

    A chasuble-alb is a contemporary Eucharistic vestment that combines features of the chasuble and alb. In the Roman Catholic Church, it was first adopted in France, though without official approval. In France it is no longer fashionable. But it has been officially approved in some countries such as the Philippines [2] and in Hawaii.[3] It is always white in colour. A stole of the colour appointed for the Mass of the day is worn outside it, in place of the normal white alb and coloured chasuble.

  105. There is a professor called Walter Veith who has a site called, "Amazing Discoveries". He deals with a lot of the relationships between secret societies (why are they secret if they are doing nothing wrong?) and how they will bring about the fulfillment of the prophecies in Revelation. He is strictly biblical in his presentations about that, and uses quotes from famous people and important sources to prove his point. A remarkable series called, "Total Onslaught". All the videos can be viewed for free in medium and low quality on the site. You can also find many of these elsewhere. I recommend watching from the earliest number to the highest, as you need to know certain things to build the next point.

    Thank you for this excellent site. I plan to read a lot more here.

  106. The Saint Lucia ritual is not pagan. It comes from Sweden, were we celebrate the Saint who, in order not to marry her non-Christian husband, toke her eyes out and was later burned to death for doing these things. She isn't pagan, the ritual isn't pagan. We don't worship the girl, we just celebrate her.

  107. If many cathedrals and churches have been built by freemasons (or other anti-christian brotherhoods), that must mean they have insiders in high levels of the catholic administration to let them win important contracts as the built of St. John the Divine Cathedral, the biggest cathedral in the world. I mean, the simple fact of building huge churches with tons of symbols is a raison enough to ask ourselves who those builders want to glorify? God, Jesus the Savior of humanity, or themselves (as gods)? Knowing who built this just confirms the anti-christian aspect of this cathedrals and its activity INSIDE what's supposed to be a church, the House of the God of Jesus-Christ. Not surprising when they proudly say about their achievements as listed above :

    "Little need be added to the story of Freemasonry during the cathedral-building period; its monuments are its best history, alike of its genius, its faith and its symbols.” From the Masonic World, march 1925.

    What's more cynical is the mean purpose of their works when they build these churches: to glorify themselves with the beauty of architectural art which attracts lots of people (what's beautiful or desirable is always attractive, wonder why they are using good-looking pop stars to harangue the masses?). They glorify themselves by decieving people who follow without questionning their priests (of what/who? Definitively not Jesus-Christ priests) in rituals which have nothing to do with the way Jesus want us to worship God. Why do you think in masses, people are not encouraged to read the Bible by themselves? They want to keep people focused on them and not on God and his Word through Jesus-Christ. They glorify themselves by watching us wonder on their achievements INSIDE the church, they jubilate as they see us doubt and become paranoid. They just love that. Finally, while they are getting some people in their nets and other panic as ants, as their confusion strategy is working pretty well, they are running their agenda as they are slowly but surely coming to light with their new world order.

    People wake up! These people are just humans, they might be very smart but there is a GOD who's wisdom is too deep to be well understood by us for now.

    And I, as Jesus-Christ believer and follower, with the power of the name of JESUS-CHRIST above all names in heaven and earth, I say this:

    No matter how hard you try, GOD is SOVEREIGN, GOD is GOOD. You try to put good and evil on a balance but you can't because GOOD can't just be the equivalent opposite of evil. You can't compare God to satan, you can't compare the creator with his creature, even if it's the king of rebelion (understand rebelion as the rejection of what already is: Holiness.) You, you'll never make us apart of God's love for His children. You'll never become God and JESUS-CHRIST has won over all of you. Ladies and Gentlemen who have chosen the rebelion against God, return to your creator while you can, because even you, freemasons and other occult brotherhoods, have the chance to change your life. RETURN TO GOD NOW! RETURN TO JESUS-CHRIST NOW! This is the best advise you'll ever have.

    For those who have been decieved and are servants of the master of deceit, Jesus is praying for you.

    Luke 23:34:

    34 Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they don’t know what they are doing.”

    Romans 8:31-39:

    Nothing Can Separate Us from God’s Love

    31 What shall we say about such wonderful things as these? If God is for us, who can ever be against us? 32 Since he did not spare even his own Son but gave him up for us all, won’t he also give us everything else? 33 Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? No one—for God himself has given us right standing with himself. 34 Who then will condemn us? No one—for Christ Jesus died for us and was raised to life for us, and he is sitting in the place of honor at God’s right hand, pleading for us.

    35 Can anything ever separate us from Christ’s love? Does it mean he no longer loves us if we have trouble or calamity, or are persecuted, or hungry, or destitute, or in danger, or threatened with death? 36 (As the Scriptures say, “For your sake we are killed every day; we are being slaughtered like sheep.”[a]) 37 No, despite all these things, overwhelming victory is ours through Christ, who loved us.

    38 And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[b] neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. 39 No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.

  108. For the people who are here to speak of how all of this is nonsense.

    GO BACK TO FOX NEWS! this is truth. you are afraid to see it.

  109. OK.. i know I did NOT hear "When The saints Go Marching In"? in that Halloween Festival clip.. bout 7:10 into it… all of it was blasphemy!

    and if your looking for a political switch hoping your choosing the better side.. then read this:

    attention : THERE IS NO BETTER SIDE.

    you better get on Gods side.

  110. I live in NY for over 11 years now, and I visit this Cathedral often. It is an interesting building, and the sculpture garden next to it is also great.

    The Halloween event on the video was a theater piece, not a worship of the devil. The Cathedral might be sinister to some, but there is nothing wrong with it.

    It promotes the love of God to everyone, regardless of their religion, and I believe that that is very important.

    Also, the environment is very important and all the people in it. It is up to us, whether we all have a good place to live in or not. The environment is not just the nature: we all belong to it and we have to take care of it.

    I alwas thought, that only a very peaceful and intelligent human being can understand this church.

  111. "Al Gore has been a guest several times at the Cathedral of St.John the Divine where he infamously said “God is not separate from the Earth“.

    But of course he is not: God is everywhere, his can reach everyone and everything. Have you ever thought of that?

    …and then you continue: "Well, in Christianity, Judaism and Islam, God IS in fact separate from the Earth (in the Heavens). If you decipher Gore’s phrase: God = Earth = Earth is God"

    You can try to "decipher" Al Gore, but he is very easy to understand.

    His documentary, "The Inconvenient Truth" won a Academy Award, and then he was awarded the Noble Peace Price for his effort to bring awareness to global warning. Al Gore did a lot so far in his life, he is a doer and an achiever. He does not need to decode, he and his actions were plane simple.

    Vigilant, I like some of your writings, but this article made me a bit disappointed.

    But keep up the work, interesting, as always.

  112. Seriously, people must read and learn more natural sciences like physics, astronomy etc. Science is best way to understand world and it gives most accurate picture about universe/world. In my mind all religions, believers and occultists are plain idiots. I have little bit more respect towards occultists like freemasons than regular believers like christians – since they are more open minded – but in the end all believers and occultists are blind men which do not know what they are talking about. God i hate stupid ppl and GOD i hate imaginary gods.

    Just educate yourselves and you will see that you dont need to explain world by any supernatural powers. It makes me sad that in year 2010 ppl are so superstitious.

    Peace and prosperity

  113. Pretty much Christianity is a pagan religion, disguised with popes, lordships and kings to worship. However, its ruling function is to worship the sun. That is why the story of christ is the same story as if you worshiped the sun gods of egypt or babylon. What the real evil here is that the truth is being denied from us. Buildings and geometric shapes do have real power. Magic does have real power if people convene and worship it. If it didn't then why did so many groups and ancient religions practice it. Even if these so called pagan rituals didn't real physical manifestations, just the point that it made people happier and more secure worshiping them, simply means that these incantations still have power because they can physically alter your reality. That is why myth is also stronger than truth, or can become truth.

    The real evil here I believe is that these groups, like the Illuminati or the Vatican, or other great mystery schools, are withholding knowledge which should be available to everyone. If you want to worship the Devil, or whatever naturalistic, craft or god you to want worship, then go right ahead. But like the author says, people should be aware in that choice and not be deceived into making such decisions. If these so called pagan rituals were good, then why hide them so carefully.

    What really scares me the most is that apocalyptic pillars. If they were able to predict (or design) the destruction of the towers, then it only means they are waiting on the destruction of new york as well. And it only means that a lot of people are in jeopardy, especially with they wish of wiping out humanity and what not for the sake of the earth. Are these people really human? How can they wish for such things is beyond me. I too believe that Earth needs to be respected and loved. But I don't feel that humans need to be wiped out to make that happen. In fact, most humans in past ages, did love and appreciate the planet, and weren't mass consumerist like we are now. But it is these so called greedy bastards who believe in eugenics and what not, and creating a clean slate, that lead us to living away from nature in the first place. People like David Rocker-feller and what not. Why are we the ones to blame?

  114. God lives through intention. Evil and good can be found in intention. Sure, a lot of this stuff going on in the church looks harmless, and the people having fun with it are probably harmless too, but the key is intention.

    Do you guys know that the peace symbol is actual a witch symbol? Yeah everyone loves peace and what not, but the peace symbol is actually a broken cross, which was worshiped by witches or people who practiced the craft instead of the regular cross, to show they're dismay for the church. So now the world over has been deluded into thinking what they thought was a symbol for peace, because most people are ignorant of their own ancestral histories and religious mysteries. Their is nothing new under the sun. The past is the key to the present and the future.

    Now there is probably nothing wrong with the powers of magic and learning witchcraft or natural healing and what not. Alchemist also studied in these things to learn the powers of transmutation. However, when you use these powers freely to become your own gods, which is what these elitist are trying to do, such as the Rockefellers and Rothschilds and what not, then that is when you have a problem and start to dive into what is known as evil. I believe that in all of creation, and especially within in the realm of humanity, we are all endowed with god-part powers, since we all are co-creators and created in the image of god. However, we are not full deities yet. It takes wordily and spiritual temperament to reach christ-like levels. This may take many lifetimes, and many sacrifices in order for transmutation to occur, and even still you may not reach perfection. However, there are those in this world who want to reach that level right away, and want to eat all they want from the garden of eden so they can reach that level right away. And the scary thing is that they actually believe they have found a way in the physical world to achieve it. Almost to the points that they will destroy themselves and the world to do it. There you will find evil. The tempestuous snake in the grass. But they will only be made fools in the end, for evil too was created by god. So in fact what you are thinking is a rebellion, is in fact playing right into the order of things.

    That is why I think that even after reading through all of these conspiracies, and knowledge of great evils in this world, it still gives me hope that this battle can easily be won if we are willing to face the evils in our heart. Many would say that we've got to wage war and take arms and what not. I say that while all good, and certainly good if you need to defend yourself, ultimately it will still be futile because you will always have people who want power and fortune immediately, rather than the wisdom that comes with letting it develop over time. It is thus the hardest yet smallest step we have to take to bringing happiness into this world – cleansing the pain and suffering in ones heart and freeing us from the materialistic world to the natural place of living within the ethereal and spiritual one.

    I hope this can be done in my lifetime.

  115. Man I love your site. You have an unbelivable eye for catching the true meaning of what we percieve to be innocent and harmless rituals and art. Peace

  116. All organized religions have as their primary motive control over their faithful. If these faithful came to relaize that there is in fact no Heaven, no Olam HaEmet, no 72 virgins waiting for you, that what they have while living on this earth is all there is, then one would see a massive revolt against the poverty, hunger and want politicians and “spititual” leaders foist upon them.

  117. Tempus Mutantis on

    ALL,ALL,ALL religions are MIND-PRISONS!, constructed by ANNUNAKI to keep humans stupid and controllable till they can be finished off and the Planet taken over by them. Thats why they spray the sky with chem-trails; to change the atmo-sphere to fit them. Rot and Rock (schild and feller) are their stupid ,subhuman lackeys as are Obama Bin Lyin and most politicians and military. You can actually exist even if you dont buy into their non-sense and word-wrangling idiocy. Humans OWN the Planet , aliens are here without an invitation. Next come the "false UFO-attack-heralded by Kissinger.

  118. perhaps we are just cowards showing what we think it can be the truth, but at the end is just misconception

    of something we cannot understand,

    we have let villains run this country, now we speak out of bitterness .

    Let us not talk anymore and do something about it , let your government representatives know you care for your country and you don't want anymore shenanigans

  119. the only way they can really install their new world order is if they install fear of being christian into your minds. this fact gives me a bad forshadowing of bad things to come, but will stay true to god with an open mind to all true religions.

    please forgive them god, for they do not know what they are doing.

  120. Great article, informative, challenging, and controversial. My cup of tea, thanks for the effort. The comments section gives me little hope for the human race. What. A. Zoo.

  121. To the author of this article —

    It's amazing how twisted up the mind can become when trying to understand something that it cannot comprehend.

    To take the virtue of the masonic principles, with all of their noble intentions and twist them into some perverse form – simplistic tales of devil-worship, etc – is only a sign of an un-evolved soul, brainwashed by the church fathers who praised ignorance and suffering and martyrdom in place of wisdom. Sad that you are so intellectually stilted, sadder still that you defend and justify your shortcomings!

    Do yourself and your readers a favor and rethink the various "pagan" rituals in the light of reason instead of the fear and superstition that you have been spoon-fed from the christian-conspirators over the centuries. You may see that the statue of liberty for instance, was and is a symbol of illumination of the higher principles; of triumph of the soul over the lesser human animal nature in which it imprisoned….sent as a symbol for a free society, and a hope for a new chance to bolster the human spirit in the New World, better known as America.

    That was the ideal!

    The all-seeing eye of providence — providence is a GOOD thing. Ben Franklin, Jefferson, Lincoln and Washington were good – and they were Masons. The symbol for DNA is as sacred as life itself because it is the essence of life….how is this bad??

    There may well be a few bad guys operating at some level, but don't write off all of the many beautiful and virtuous facets of the original meanings of these symbols – where there is hope there is life!

  122. Creator exists on all levels of reality that is of living and natural form. There are dark forces at work in every religion and in every social structure since the beginning of the existence of social forms. Although there are many positives of all spiritual traditions as well. If you believe what other people feed you especially "authorities" then you are just letting other people and forces run your life and beliefs, out of fear and ignorance instead of thinking and seeking truth for yourself. To have gratitude to the aspects of reality that are here on the earth and universe, like other people, the food you are blessed with, the sun, the stars, plants, animals, mother earth can be the greatest way of giving that gratitude and love back to creator. Believing in some wrathful force that exists in "heaven" is the reason that people have no respect for the earth and are so disconnected from the impact they are having everyday on what happens to the the earth and all her relations (plants, animals, water, people…). Have reverence for what is here and the way you live and what you choose to put in your body and that will give you greater freedom then thinking you have everything figured out because in the long run you will realize that you are only seeking and thinking you have it figured out because you are living in FEAR.

  123. Amen!

    "No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD." Isaiah 54:17


    "Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen." 1 John 5:21

    Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

    Love, Your Brother Joe

  124. Just for the sake of clarity, the Cathedral Church of Saint John the Divine, the Cathedral of the Episcopal Diocese of New York. So it is an Episcopal church in case anybody was wondering.

  125. Wow!!! As a Catholic, at first I was scared thinking that it was a Catholic cathedral, I was so relieved that it's Episcopalian, otherwise know "Catholic Lite". WHAT ARE THE EPISCOPALIAN SMOKING!!!! The sanctury is only for the worship of God and Holy Communion, not for an S/M fashion show. This just gives me more proof that the REAL presence of Jesus Christ in the Blessed Sacrament is non existant in the Episcopalian church, how sad!!!

  126. IH8Allzionists on

    9/10 Americans dont belive in a religion anymore so i think the illuminati have accomplished their objectives and goals. The few that are watching them closely should alert the blind idiots out there, or atleast present them the idea of it. From what i see, we have a long way to go to get everyone on the same page and focus. Obama is a Terrorist along with all the people in Congress and Gov't.

  127. I hate how people read the article and then just used the information to defend their own fractured beliefs.

    If you have to use this article as "proof" for why you don't like atheists or Christians that don't practice the way you do, why bother?

  128. Any real christian can point out a false christian and the majority are false. They have soiled our name and our teachings. Murder has been committed in the name of every faith. And if you are a real christian you need to rebuke blood being spilled by our people and in our name. Jesus told us to love our neighbor. Not carpet bomb his country because your nation tells you that it is right. You should be meek and humble and trust in the lord for your protection not the strength of your arms. This is but your mortal coil and he will call you home today or tomorrow so you should have no fear. Your death is an inevitability and your place in heaven is guaranteed. SO TURN THE OTHER CHEEK! We are supposed to share the word of god. And that he is the way the truth and the light. But we need to watch the means by witch we seek to spread this truth. Means tainted with evil will taint the message. And so much conquest has already been done in our name that we have lost all credibility to modern society. We appear as prideful hypocrites. The word its self is enough to open the mind of others to the truth. But when you speak it you must stand as a beacon and live the life that you are called to. And it is not a part time life it is 24/7 365. And it is a struggle but that is what forgiveness is for. I despise these missionaries that reward a starving person with food for reading there bible. THAT IS EVIL! We need to lead by example love one another and show that only if you follow the real teachings of Jesus can you be saved and save others. When you preach the real love and teachings of Jesus Christ and to somebody they cannot deny logically that he was the son of god and that Christianity is the right path.

  129. Also I feel that I must mention while being meek and humble are what we are called to do. It is not wrong to rebuke a man that is truly evil. But it must be done on an individual level. And true evil should only be applied to those who willingly and knowingly offend the lord and his commandments. And by knowingly and willingly I mean those men that have known the scriptures to be true and/or have known the presence of the holy spirit and understood its purpose. They who would still seek to offend the lord for worldly gain and refuse to repent are truly evil. All other "evil" is born of a lack of knowledge and misguidance. We should educate the "evil men" and show them the bounty of loving thine neighbor. Not lash out at what we fear and harm a misguided man. War is now a construct of the enemy. In this day and age global communication is easily obtained so there need not ever be another war. But this is a fallen world and there will be war. Soon there will be a Holocaust upon the christian people themselves. I am reminded of wise words, that the best offense is a good defense. And any war fought by the christian people must be a defensive one. But remember our father, gospel, faith, love, word, and daily works of betterment are the bane of all of our offensive capabilities. But ultimately remember NEVER renounce your faith even if it means the death of you and those you love. Glory be to the martyr! Now on a different tangent. As a point of clarification. What I said about the missionaries could easily be misconstrued. What I was aiming to convey is that our Lord calls us to feed the starving and then express why we did it. You need not reward good behavior (a.k.a. reading the scriptures) with material things. The real reward from good behavior is in the outcome. To attach a reward to a good deed is just offering wordy incentive to join our cause. And doesn't that sound like a tool of the deceiver. He has worked hard and in many ways to blur our doctrine. The end is near and in these times we must defend our faith. Even from some of those now that claim to be our teachers. Do not just listen to the bible as dictated from a man on a podium and his interpretation. Read the bible really understand its concepts and make educated decisions among your piers on how it should be interpreted. But keep a few things in mind. First it is a literal text. For instance the seven days of creation were not a metaphor. Society and popular science will tell you different. But there is scientific proof on our side as well. Secondly Jesus came to bring a message of hope and love. He is the ultimate teacher and any organization that spins words of the gospel to justify there own agenda is false and evil.

  130. rachel miller on

    Its not about your actions its about your faith in Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior knowing he died on the cross and rose again to save us from the sin that we live in everyday. We have to be ready for whatever comes and I have faith in my Lord Jesus Christ that he will kick butt.

  131. Wow, you guys need to get a grip.

    You can interpret practically ANY ritual any way you want, depending on your beliefs! For some, Christian rituals are just as startling and confusing as any pagan ritual. I mean, we DO kneel before the image of a tortured dead man nailed to a piece of wood and claim to eat and drink human flesh during christian church services!

    • @Sparklydiva

      Matthew 26, Mark 14, Luke 22, 1 Corinthians 11

      Luke 24:30, Acts 2:42, 46 , Acts 20:7, 11 Acts 24:11

      Do you mean the LORD Supper/Communion? It's a new covenant constituted by LORD Jesus Christ in remembrance of what he had done to redeem us from sin, death and hell for the 11 disciples done before Judas Iscariot betray him. Actually, I feel uneasy to use these terms: Eucharist and Mass since Catholics love to use these terms. After water baptism you get to join the other Body of Christ to partake the LORD Supper.

  132. Christianity is pagan to the core. It's a mixture of Judaism and Paganism. When you ride the train of Christianity you ride the tracks of Paganism. Christianity is a big house with a lot of rooms, each room is a different denomination like Catholic, Pentecostal, Baptist, Methodist, Amish and so on, where people try taking other people from one room to another, when you look up you will find you are all under the same roof. There is a key to get you out of that house. You must study the Old Covenant and Israel to find it.

  133. TEMPUS, if Satan was kicked out of heaven to this earth, and Yahweh is proven in Scriptures to have spacecraft, then Satan has them here on earth and those are what is being seen. Just before Yahweh returns when all armies go against Jerusalem is when Yahweh will come in spacecraft and He will wipe the armies out along with Satan and his angels who have spacecraft too. The skies will be full of them all over the world at that time, it's going to be one awesome site.

  134. The Great Whore is not the Catholic Church, it is Jerusalem. Rome is where the woman this false religion sits now, but the Pope will move from Rome to Jerusalem to rule the One World Order from there. Jerusalem will become the One World Capital. If you check it out you will find Rome sits on 7 hills or mountains and so does Jerusalem. But Jerusalem is the Whore because she left the real truth, not Rome. Christianity is the religion that will obsorb all other religions.

  135. pop goes the weezle on

    anybody notice the same idea is preached in the movie "avatar".. the planet pandora is their diety and the navi as some kinda consciousness of the planet.. the human body is depicted as some kinda inferior parasite that cant cope with the laws of pandora and eventually, jake the human gives up his god give human body to be replaced with a far advanced one, NAVI.. smells to me like eugenics dont you think?

  136. here in the philippines we bless vehicles and houses, is it paganism also…

    it's like, father bless this car for the safety of those riding on it bah blah blah… is it really bad enough???

  137. i want to respond to what SHANE has said way back 2009, there is nothing wrong worshiping the sun, but as the writer said, messing up with peoples religion is evil, if you think our God is imaginary, it's OK, its Ur opinion…

    but, as i am saying, never deceive people into thinking they are worshiping whoever they're god, while in reality, they are worshiping other god instead….

    messing up beliefs is evil, so don't mess up our belief that God is real…

    and if you don't believe in God, atheist maybe, believe in evil, and what you are saying is blatantly evil….

  138. One thing I've learned is that EVERYTHING related to religion including Paganism has been convoluted to CONFUSE the masses. In reality this universe and beyond, including our own reality here on Earth is spiritual. Paganism existed long before Christianity and Christ ever came along. Some believe that Christ himself practiced a form of Paganism. I'm a Pagan myself. HOWEVER there is a stark difference between differing SECTS of Pagan ritual. Needless to say the type that the Illuminati practice is of the Dark sort (black magick) which is a distortion of Paganism's original intent. Indigenous cultures throughout the world ALSO practice a form of Paganism, but unlike that used by the Illuminati, it is not for evil intents and purposes, at least not all of it is. There is something called "White magick" which is a subject that is universally ignored by those who condemn Paganism and the Illuminati's Black magick. So we are all left to assume that ALL Paganism is evil which is not the case. It's been said that the devil is the master of deceit which is very true. Organized religion DOES need an overhaul. There DOES need to be a new "world order" that respects, nurtures and honors (without actually worshipping) the Earth. There DOES need to be a coming together of all spiritual (religious) beliefs so that we can all "live as one" in peace. However pure and good these intentions are, they are being PERVERTED by the Dark side in a very subtle way. The cleverest trick is that they don't change the words (publicly)! They manipulate us and divide us by retaining the nice-sounding words while hiding their evil black intent behind them. They are taking the actual intentions of human evolution and God and hiding behind them in order to pervert it all. This is extremely insidious considering how confusing it all is. And let me tell you, they are deliberately trying to confuse us in order to keep us divided. But the truth of the matter is extremely ancient. What it really boils down to is Black magick versus White magick. Good versus Evil. When in the public eye, practitioners of the Dark arts PRETEND to be of the Light (they call themselves "illuminated") so gullible people will say "See? There's nothing wrong with that!". Masters of deceit indeed, they even deceptively use white candles which angers me to no end. I am a Pagan and I am NOT represented by the Illuminati. If these people truly worshipped and respected the Earth and nature, they would not be trying to CONQUER it. Look at all the pollution and degradation of the eco-system. Look at the horrific man-made cities around the world. If these evil bastards were truly good, we'd all be living much more along the lines of the pre-columbus American Indians. Occult knowledge would not be horded, but shared, and certainly not perverted in order to rule the fucking world. So it is not "paganism versus 'real' religion". It is Good versus evil. Period.

  139. p.s. I'm a Pagan, I practice "white magick", which is the REAL illumination of the TRUE Light. The "illumination" discussed by the Illuminati is that of the FALSE light. Almost nobody understands the difference. See how evil this elite is? They take something as pure as illumination and claim it as their own! It is a lie.

    Also, even though I am Pagan, I believe in Jesus Christ and all that he stood and stands for…the TRUE Light.

  140. p.s. the Illuminati claim to be "illuminated" but in reality they represent the forces of Darkness. This can also be referred to as the "false light". They say the devil can transform himself into an "angel of light". This is NOT the real light. It is a trick designed to deceive the gullible. It is all based on perversion of truth. I am a Pagan and I believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ, master of the TRUE Light.

    • TJ, you are so close to the Truth. I pray that you get there before it is too late. May the Lord deliver you, and bless you.

  141. We are in the last days of this age, it is important to note as Christians that the Devil knows he has a very short time and he is doing everything to deceive as many saints as he can. Please to all brethren, all the Truth can set you free from the deception of the Evil One. Come to Jesus all ye that labour and are heavy laden,and he will give you rest.

  142. Well done Vigilant. These processions of ghouls and blessings of bicycles etc just make me shake my head and pity the poor fools who actually participate in these things. Just unbelievable. Why even still call it Christian or Catholic? Just call yourself "St. John the humanistic pagan Cathedral." How can anyone sitting in on those "services" and events even remotely think this is Christian or "Holy?" And the whole twin towers pillar makes me nervous. Esp since the Illuminati may posses the technology to manipulate weather… NYC may very well be destroyed in the near future in order to help the Illuminati pass some monumental piece of legislation to take away our freedoms and move us all closer towards the Novus Ordo.

    Things like this, to me, just show so clearly that there are select groups controlling this country and this world. People who are presented with this evidence and deny it simply are afraid of the truth. For me, the evidence is just overwhelming. I wish I was wrong, I really wish I was. I wish I could just blow off all this Illuminati, Freemasonic, Kaballah infiltration and indoctrination as rumors and garbage. But presented with all of Vigilants evidence and scores of other well researched individuals findings, I can only conclude that Secret Societies and Occultism has been rampant in this culture since our inception.

    Again, I wish I could say it wasn't so. But alas, I cannot, in good concience, make such a statement.

    Well done vigilant and God Bless you for seeking the truth. Many people will not believe your findings or your analysis, but just know that there are enough of us who do to make your work worthwhile!!

  143. I am amazed … depressed … because this is what i was led to believe since the day i joined the youth UNESCO back when I was 11 years old. I am deeply chocked ….. I cannot express how disgusted I feel right now … by all this… GO WITH GOD everyone … not with this … Sun and earth worship or moon worship … They are creatures and we are creatures too .. but we have to Worship OUR CREATOR nothing else =((

  144. ohh heck no! i'am highly offended by the first comment. i cant believe you would be so stupid to denounce God and Jesus both if you were to read ur bible you would see that Gods words are related to many things that have happened in this day and age and if your such a non believer than what the hell are you reading this article for anyway…get a life and have some faith…

  145. "And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord." Joshua 24:15

    For those that want to compare Christianity to "paganism"(other world religions) note an interesting anomaly. Yes, Pantheism and Polytheism existed before Jesus, but the worship never carried the same story of the Messiah until after 150 AD. Look into it yourself. The only religion close to the story of a Savior, which is in the Old and New Testament, Is the Egyptian religion. Where Osiris is put back together by Isis, but he is resurrected into the realm of the dead so technically he is not a god of the living but one of the dead.

    "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." Ephesians 5:11

    A misconception in Witchcraft. Yes, there is "light" and "dark" witchcraft, this is called duality. Essentially Lucifer/Satan worship. The similar symbols are used and the SAME spirits are called upon. Notice what the Bible says, for those who want to follow the precepts of the Word of God.

    "There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee." Deuteronomy 18:10-12

    God gives general terms for these practices, which thus includes all things of this nature. We cannot live in iniquity, knowingly practicing sin, and expect God to dwell in us. We must all come to repentance in order for Christ's love to change our hearts through the power of the Holy Spirit. Please pray that we may all continue on the straight and narrow. God bless!

  146. I'm not even gonna lie. I mostly read this site for kicks but I have to admit. You make some great points.

  147. To bad for the Rothschilds the book of Revelation is about the judgment and destruction of Apostate Jerusalem in 70 AD. They know this, that is why they are trying to rewrite history and paint the US/NY as Babylon when Babylon is clearly identified in Revelations as Jerusalem.

    These people are idiots – none of what they want is going to happen.

  148. Tantra-Yoga it is not a form of sexual black magic. Please don't do this kind of association in your article.

  149. Another Perspective on

    Interesting. I will ask this, is the Catholic church even a true church anyway? I mean until they said otherwise, the sabbath was on Saturday…..(still is for Jews….isn't that Jesus' lineage? And oh yeah, in Exodus 20, the sabbath was included in one of the first commandments)……..they (those dern catholics) changed it to Sunday and slaughtered anyone who opposed anything that they put out as "God's law" from 538 – 1798…..the pope is considered god on Earth…..and not to mention they place a great deal of worship on Mary, and other things that have nothing to do with true worship of God…since when did you need beads to pray? And they remixed the bible….that book of Tobias is a trip…I have never heard someone speak so highly of himself in "scripture"….if that was supposed to be inspired by God….puh-lease. And since when was any human being able to forgive your sins? According to Catholic doctrine…the priest can…in that little confessional booth….smh. And if I'm not mistaken, the Catholic doctrine places emphasis on good works and giving to the church……as though one could work or buy their way into heaven…………only thing is, that isn't true. Babylon the great….is more likely the Catholic church…not New York City…given that New York City claims no relationship with God…the Catholic church does….and the church is the bride of Christ….but this woman (church) is called a whore in many scriptures….given that the Vatican sits on seven hills and all….Revelation 17:9……..and how many churches you know own an entire city….none I can think of but 1….and the religious persecution that ensued at the hands of the Catholic church…. my vote is the Catholic church….the jury is still out on whether they are the antichrist… more reading to do.

    This site has an interesting take on things:

    But you should always pray to God for wisdom and trust in him…not your own understanding….and most importantly…seek out God in his word and not on someone else's website….but it is funny how many historical and now current events have their identifying marks in books of the bible such as Daniel 7 and Revelation as well as Matthew 24….good places to start studying. Most churches nowadays are still reading Proverbs and Psalms and preaching feel good messages instead of actually teaching what we as a people need to hear…..oh yeah, did I mention they (today's church) still worship on Sunday…bc the Catholics said so…..Matthew 7:13…broad is the way that leadeth to destruction…… A seemingly small nuance…the day you choose to worship can be or rather IS a major deception…and how many people have been deceived already? The world of Christians worship when the the Catholic church told them to……..interesting.

  150. People, quit acting like Paganism was the "original" religion. Just because many forms of paganism predate SOME of the Abrahamic faiths, does not mean everybody was a pagan before Moses. The earliest Rigvedas state monotheism, for example;

    " sa eYa ekx ekxvaRdokx eva |

    à Aqava-vaod 13ó4ó20"

    "Verily He is one

    Single, indivisible, supreme reality."

    – Atharva Veda 13/4/20

    " ekxao ivaEvasya Bauvanasya rajaa |

    à Pgvaod 6ó36ó4"

    "He is the sole sovereign

    Of the universe."

    – Rig Veda 6/36/4

    And what about Zoroaster?

    The public are BLATANTLY being deceived into Gaia worship/ Pantheism/ Satanism, all these things. Get over it. pull your head out.



    On a side note;

  151. Blessing the bicycles…xD

    I'm just gonna go bless my iPod, my computer, and my speakers now…so that they too can have a chance at Heaven 😀

  152. Very intriguing article, though I must say that there is nothing wrong with respecting the environment or Earth or worshiping Gaia (Gaia is more of the idea of viewing the Earth as an organism). I do agree and have always said and thought since I was very young, that we, as humans, are acting like cancer on the Earth. The idea of "God" is the "All That Is," therefore I must disagree with you in your comment of God being separate and not one with the Earth. "God," or the "All That Is"…the One Collective Consciousness…the infinite interconnectedness of all things as proven in physics, is in everything. Therefore I am all for promoting seeing God not just in the Heavens, but in the Earth…and also in our hearts, and in the animals, in the plants…"God" is in all things, and this is a crucial realization that we all need to awaken to in order to not be cancer on the Earth.

    I would not be so quick as to classify revering or worshiping the Earth as devil worship…being evil leads to the lack of respect of all things……revering the Earth is not evil. Revering God is not evil. Revering God means having reverence for the Earth and all that is.

    You seem to blur (perhaps unintentionally) lines between paganism and devil worship. I would like for people to understand that devil worship uses INVERTED symbols, which represent the dark, or negative energies of the symbol and are used when trying to bend the world to do your will. Normal paganism uses symbolism in their proper positions and colors, representing the positive, or light energies of the symbol, and these people as a whole seek to create love in the world for the highest good of all. Example: Pentacle: right side up star in a circle, positive. Used by pagans…symbol used in many cultures (even Christianity) throughout time to represent concepts and theories about the interconnectedness of all things. Is also protective. Pentagram: upside down star, negative. Used in devil worship…associated with "The Void"…that black, endless space where evil things supposedly dwell.

    Freemasons notoriously use inverted symbols…like, the black Madonna and Child (no, they aren't black to represent a race)…if the symbols can't be turned upside down, they will be painted black to draw in the opposite, dark energy. It's largely about intention as well.

    There clearly is something sinister going on with the Illuminati…baiting the world seemingly towards the good we all seek with poison. We have the power to change the world and create a collective respect for the earth WITHOUT the Illuminati's assistance. We have the power to accomplish this with light and love. But everyone who does not want to be a sheeple needs to practice living their daily life moving towards that goal of common love, harmony, peace and understanding in order for us to defeat the negative, very powerful pull of those who work with black magic on a daily basis to sway the world to their wills. They do not rest. Neither should we rest in our daily efforts to make conscious choices to live peaceful lives, to speak our mind, seek alternative forms of medicine, to eat healthy food, and nurture our own personal ways to connect with the Divine and be who we really are without shame. We need to love and evolve.

    I challenge everyone to make it their sacred intention to create a world that cherishes love and meditate on this thought every day. No matter who you are…no matter how much negative crap you read, hold the energy of love in your hearts and know that it is the most powerful, all-encompassing energy that takes fear in and transforms it….fear is not so powerful as love, as it excludes everything good. Love is all-inclusive and is the All That Is…align yourself with love, and you have aligned yourself with the most positive, ultimate force there is.

  153. I've only recently started following VC's work, and I've found it to be an eye-opening experience. But for the first time, I've read something that I don't agree with. And it's the statement "God IS in fact separate from the Earth (in the Heavens)".

    Now, I'm not a christian, and this is how I see it. Isn't the Earth God's creation? Is He separate and distinct from His creation? I think not.

    Keep up the good work, VC.

    P.S. @ "Jay", post 181 . . . please don't quote the Vedas to support your Abrahamic spiel.

  154. WE NEED JESUS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT ONLY HE CAN SAVE US THROUGH HIS PRECIOUS BLOOD. the Bible says in Ehphisian 6:13 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.

    you see the word of God already warned us of these things well before this whole website was even created so open your eyes ppl and seek the Lord. so many of these evil things in these articles are directed at Christianity and not any other religion why not Islam why not Judaism ….. its because satan is real and he does not want you to have a relationship with God and i mean the true and living God not the god in other religions but the God who loves US unconditionally

    It is clear that satan is rulling the world and so many people are influenced by him through the media and all sorts and its even more scary to know that he finds his ways into the church a place which is meant to be holy. There are churches which openly contradict the laws of God and his ways e.g promoting homosexuality, idolotry, and even satanism.

    Once you have a relationship with Jesus nothing can touch you for you will be saved in the name of Jesus

    (soz if there are any typos =D)

  155. Nothing unusual about any of those services… at least in a mainline Protestant church. The Holly and The Ivy is one of those Christmas carols that ties pagan worship and Christianity together. Paying homage to pagan rites is nothing new in Christianty. The Blessing of the Animals happens in thousands of churches at different times of the year. My Presbyterian church does it the Saturday before Easter each year.

  156. Wow, thanks for this article!!! I've lived in and around NYC my whole life, but only had been to this church a few times and never really saw it. Don't get me wrong, I always loved the place, but now I really love it!!!! Thanks again and keep up the good work!!! Ciao.

  157. I have been getting increasingly interested in the planet, being a christian and seeing so many alignments between events like solar flares, tsunamis, pollution and how they correlate with prophecy.

    I am writing about these on my blog at

    I used to be atheist and I am still sceptical. I will go to a church (denominational) service with my thinking cap on – BUT maybe its apophenia or maybe I’m just a looney, but I really think things are winding down for our green planet.

    I’d be really honoured if you come by and drop your thoughts – and rants on my blog at:
    Thanks for your time

  158. rickorlando on

    Shane. There are more written, historical documents about Jesus than there are about Napoleon… Did Napoleon exist?

  159. Fire come walk with on

    Maybe they are allowing all these different religious systems and rituals into the Christian churches to create subtle confusion, mental conditioning then finally promoting a sort of Christian amnesia (Christian doctrines and Jesus' words) to accept a future Luciferian system by those 'UN council accredited' advisors. I know for sure that the main Cathedral in my large city is also hosting inter-religious programs and forums there as well. It all seems innocuous, but mabe there is a subtle and sinister agenda.

  160. But…Christianity IS a Sun cult.

    Worship occurs on SUNday!

    While much of the imagery on the pillars in this structure are odd and in some cases rather disturbing, I don't think that everything presented here is 100% true and correct.

    For example, Santa Lucia (Saint Lucy) has been venerated as a saint by Roman Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran, and Orthodox churches in Europe for hundreds of years. The celebrations associated with her do have roots in Germanic paganism, but so do a number of other Christian practices, including hanging Christmas wreaths. And nobody demonizes that.

    Dig for the history and you'll see how much Christian myth, theology, practice and symbolism has borrowed from other "pagan" backgrounds.

    To associate Freemasonry with all that is "pagan" is just as bad as calling all Christians Catholic.

    It's not rooted in a solid truth, but in ignorance.

  161. The Episcopal Church of St. John the Divine at 103 St. and Amsterdam reportedly conceals the entrance to an

    underground cavern used by an occult lodge, an actual "city" left over from former sub-inhabitants of the eastern seaboard during antediluvian/Atlantean times, and protected by "space-warping" technology. source: ENCYCLOPEDIA OF OCCULTISM

    & PARAPSYCHOLOGY, by Leslie A. Shepard, pp. 889-890; Maurice Doreal

  162. Upon reading the article about the so called singers and the strange symbols some building have encrypted on them clearly confirms what the bible has always warned man about. I am deeply ashamed of ever listening to the songs of those evil singers. May God for give us all. Let us prepare as followers of Christ for what is ahead of us. People like J-Z and his wife or whoever she is to her, Rhianna and Kanya West will all face the wrath of God. Shame on them all. They are a disgrace to humanity.

  163. why do you know too much about this things, were you one of them? just tell us the truth. Furthermore ave got no problem with them. Coz these people are secretive and they dont

    force anyone to join them and they are very few compared to other religions. So let us all believe in whatever we believe and leave them alone. Only God can judge them. Stop being possesed with too much comics and hollywood.

  164. @101. earth-civilian: Except for the part where, you know, Osama bin Laden came right out and SAID HE DID IT.

    • Actually he denied doing the attack. Don't believe the mainstream media they've been lying to you! Research if you doubt me.

  165. It should be noted that the Blessing of the Animals is a common Catholic tradition done to honor St. Francis of Assissi. Whether it’s also a throwback to an older pagan religion is somewhat irrelevant when you consider that most modern religious practices, from Catholic to other Christian to even Jewish, borrow from older traditions and cultures. It’s people using what they know. As they say, there is nothing new under the sun.

    Additionally, the use of the All-Seeing Eye, which I suppose is suspicious on first glance due to the Freemasons’ involvement with the building of the cathedral, stops being quite so sinister when you consider that, aside from the symbol being used in ancient traditions pre-dating Christianity, the Christians themselves (at the time all Catholic [save the Orthodoxes], if I’ve got my history right) used it during Medieval times and the Renaissance to depict the Holy Trinity, long before the Freemasons even existed. It’s a symbol that at least some Catholic students are taught in their religious classes leading up to their Confirmation – this is taken from experience. All Christianity except the Orthodox Church originated in Catholicism. Therefore it WOULDN’T be all that surprising to find it on a Cathedral, even if its use isn’t quite so widespread in modern times.

    That being said, the presnes of what do appear to be Apocalyptic images carved into the Cathedral itself is more than a little unsettling, and while I don’t pretend to understand Episcopal traditions having had no personal experience with them, I find it shocking that the supposed seat of the Episcopal Bishop of the Diocese of New York would permit a Halloween celebration of that nature to take place within the church’s walls. Sure, I understand that they wish to be diverse and serve the community while remaining blind to the faith of others, but there comes a point where certain acts become completely inappropriate.

    I guess what I’m saying is that while you might just be on to something, you might want to check all your facts before you make a post like this declaring that the use of symbols people within the Christian faith would find completely acceptable on a church is part of a Masonic conspiracy. The Masons borrow heavily (though not exclusively) from Christian symbolism as the Christians borrowed heavily from the Jews who borrowed heavily from the Egyptians. This is cultural history in action; it’s not ALL a conspiracy. Pick what might actually be relevant – the images of the city, the stock exchange, and the Brooklyn bridge – but leave out the Eye and the Blessing of the Animals, as well as other things that could easily be attributed to non-pagan religious practices and traditions.

  166. Great research VC, keep up the good work.

    @ Lizzie – You are decieved !the all seeing eye is very much pagan, period ! & the blessing of animals ??? that is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard / seen. Thanks VC for your awesome research. Too bad so many people can't understand it.

    @himesha – your time is coming to an end ! YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE KING OF KINGS & LORDS OF LORDS – JESUS CHRIST when he returns again. I will not bother to respond back to your comments, because GOD will deal with you. Peace be with you.

  167. You make alot of these things sound like a bad thing..

    I do find the apocalyptic messages and satanistic aspects creepy.. But isn't it nice that a group of people honor the earth, animals and enviroment? The whole notion of Paganism is celebrating the life of the world around us and nature.

    I do agree with the fact that a Cathedral teaching something else and making its followers practice a different religion is not okay- but there are alot of other misleading churches; and of course.. People can always leave.. they are not bound to the cathedral.

  168. So I would like to know something. Are there any Islamic groups/important figures involved in the Cathedral?

    Because I have to say, I've noticed that while most religions are safe from prosecution and are in fact encouraged to come together, Islam is almost systematically bastardized and made out as some sort of great evil cult. What's your opinion on this?

  169. shane how can you say oh gods not really so sun worships better. i can admit that i dont beleive in god however this beleif unites millions. the worship of the sun is not literal you moron it represents satan and the light he brings to the so called elite. so you think that the worship of the figure ment to be all evil is better then the worship of a merciful creator? your either screwed up or just very dumb

  170. I love the Cathedral of St John the Divine! The blessing of the animals takes place around the festival of St. Francis of Assisi, patron saint of animals, so there's your link to Christianity. It's beautiful, funny, gentle, and inspiring.

    The blessing of the bikes? Given the high injury and death rate of NYC bikers, hey, it can't hurt. It's not like they're putting curses on New Jersey drivers, right? ….or ARE they? What kind of a conspiracist are you? Next time, get some audio!

    The cathedral makes no secret of encouraging interfaith friendship and communication, and does not hide its interest in the environment or community building. That's not at all the same goal as abolishing faith. There are daily Episcopalian services with a real live Episcopalian minister throughout the week, and a Sunday school to boot. The cathedral's divergence from strict Episcopalian tradition hardly makes it a sinister site. It's way less creepy than, say, the headquarters of Fox news in midtown. Somebody wrote about the Halloween costumes: yeah, that was a performance of one kind or another. Puppets and masks are big in New York. Regular services, for better or worse, do not feature awesome special effects.

    Hey, the blessing's coming up!! Get ready for Luciferic wheelbarrows of earthworms, demonic local children in robes carrying turtles, and maybe even the blasphemous Paul Winter and his wicked wicked tenor sax. Is that bat-eared Boston Terrier near you a hound of hell?

    Ugh, beloved friends: weird art, recycling, community outreach and unique ceremonies do not constutute the end of the world. Peace does NOT have to mean brainwashing, mass death or freakish genetic modification – that's already the work of the industrial military/agricultural complex, not hippie Christians and their friends. To believe that cooperation can only be found from genetic modification and genocide is pretty nihilistic.

    I like Lizzie's comment on the symbolism, and her suggestion to check out books, rather than the internets, for accurate facts. You can also visit the cathedral's websitesite, give them a call to ask questions (including Rock's question, whether local Muslims are represented. My guess is yes, especially given the scary anti-Islam and Muslim feeling in the city now), or take a tour of the place if you're in the neighborhood. I love that hideous fountain! Oh, a drunk looking sun and a crab holding the head of the devil, of course! If liking bad art makes me a sheep, or a satanist, well, baal. Humor and generosity of soul have healed more people than paranoid monotheism ever could. And yes, that holy cow is totally worshipped out.

  171. To the author: I disagree with much of what you have said. The reason is because I can find a defense for almost every single point you have made here. However, that would take up more of my energy and time that I wish to spend in this. The only troubling thought to which I had no answer for is the Halloween festival.

    You go into many things here dealing with the architecture, and the statures. But they all have meaning in the church. For instance the collapsing of New York City. Clearly that is a sign of the end times. God will destroy what man has built up and will take only the select few confessed Christians with his to his kingdom.

    Also you might want to take note to the Lucia fest that you have marked down as being a "pagan ritual". St Lucia is a story of a sweetish girl who lost her life in service to God, and she is acknowledged every year around Christmas time. The festival is sweetish tradition and the white robes are part of that festival.

    John B. Drummer, THD

  172. Peace-a distant drea on

    "Neo-Pagan-Bordeline-Satanic-the-Environment-is-more-important-than-human-life beliefs"

    This sentence can be used to describe many other evil things in this world. I'll learn it by heart!

  173. Christianity is one of the foulest evils on this planet, and should be outlawed. Looks like that is finally starting to happen. The sooner the better.

    • In the US no one's "outlawing" Christianity or any other religion, we're just asking people to tone the crazy down and do it in their own time and place. How some people have misused Christianity is indeed very evil, but Christianity is good too. It tells us to worship an invincible but good God, to care for one another and others, to be charitable..

  174. Funny…I don't think of dancing ghouls when I attend my church.

    That cathedral is not "church". It is a mockery and all the people who are blind to this truth are doomed.

  175. Maarten: I hear you, but anyone who says "a marble of engineering" is lacking intellectual creedence in my book. The secret 'Illumination' of these groups is coded in the phrases "Nothing is tru, Everything is Permitted" and "Do what thou wilt"…There is no God, that is the secret behind Masonry. Not that worship Lucifer, but that they worship the fact that THERE ARE NO RULES and NO CONSEQUENCES to their actions, therefore they can control the masses with fake religions…I believe in science, not an archaic book written by primitive farmers.

  176. The freemasons are not a religion and they DON'T worship the devil. They don't worship anybody because they are not a religion! Did you know the freemasons were the second highest giver to charity in England in 2009? Freemasons are innocent people and they have nothing to do with the NWO.

  177. I'm sorry but that procession of ghouls in a 'Christian' cathedral is just ghastly! It's so wrong that I can't put any words together to express how appalled I am by the sights seen in that accompanying YouTube video!

  178. I may be late in commenting…

    but here are my thoughts.

    The first mention of man's creation in the hebrew bible is of the Elohim, the usual word for God. The direct translation of Elohim from Hebrew to English is, "Those who came from the stars", this means man's DNA comes from the stars, the original man is not of Earth origin. What does this mean? It means man has extraterrestrial origins. Scientifically we only know what 10% of our DNA, the rest we call "Junk DNA".

    In the Sumerian legends, a civilization that once existed in the region that we call Iraq/the Middle East, Enoch speaks of a language of light, he calls this language of light, Hiburu which is translated to Hebrew. The most ancient form of Hebrew is Kabala. Kabala is a THOUGHT-PROCESS. Lucifer is a latin word, to mean "bringer of light"… Luciferianism is a thought-process. See the connection? Our visual, physical, materialistic world, is Lucifer, Lucifer is neither GOOD nor EVIL. The visual, 3 dimensional, world is illusionary it is not there, it is holographic. NOTHING PHYSICAL is real. By just being here on earth you "worship" lucifer. By believing what is in front of is is real you "worship" Lucifer.

    the below is from:

    The only way to be unaffected by this illusory devastation delivered under the guise of the Lord’s Judgment, and to keep from experiencing an emotional collapse, is to come out of this hypnotic trance.

    To remain emotionally connected to the 3 dimensional illusion, believing that its actually real, manipulates who we really are into experiencing a devastating emotional cataclysm as the illusory Day of Judgment unfolds.

    Bringing into focus, through awareness, what it is that the luciferian group of thinking entities is using to manipulate us to do their bidding, breaks the hypnotic spell. If anyone reading these words just experienced this thought … “there’s no way we’re in a hypnotic trance”, then you’ve just experienced the luciferian THOUGHT PROCESS firsthand.


    God spoke the world into creation, before words come thoughts, thoughts are light and sound energy. In the Hindu creation story energy meets mass creates sound and light. Before thoughts there was darkness, "Something from nothing" is the Judeo belief. Max More defines Lucifer as, “the embodiment of reason, of intelligence, of critical thought. He stands against the dogma of God and all other dogmas. He stands for the exploration of new ideas and new perspectives in the pursuit of truth.” God is ALL-KNOWING… he is not ALL-THINKING, Lucifer is ALL-THINKING. ALL-KNOWING means WISDOM. By just BEING and LIVING means you have WISDOM.

    In the 18th century the United States was founded, this time was known as the ENLIGHTENMENT period, the AGE OF REASON (Lucifer). Scientific observations are a form of LUCIFERIAN worship because they are solely based on observations which is physicality, which is the refraction of LIGHT. Dorinda Outram, a historian, provides an intellectual definition of the Enlightenment,

    Enlightenment was a desire for human affairs to be guided by rationality rather than by faith, superstition, or revelation; a belief in the power of human reason to change society and liberate the individual from the restraints of custom or arbitrary authority; all backed up by a world view increasingly validated by science rather than by religion or tradition.

    Count Nikolas von Zinzendorf was the head of the Rosicrucian Order (1744-1749), he founded the Order of the Mustard Seed, he founded the city of Bethlehem, Pa, a place of sun-god worship. He brought over the Moravians of Moravia (Czech republic today). Bethlehem, Pa is the home of the American Industrial revolution. The United States was founded during Zinzendorf's reign of the Rosicrucian Order (1776) under the influence of Freemasonry, Freemasonry itself is under the influence of the Rosicrucian Order, the Rosicrucian Order was under the influence of Egyptian mysticism. The Egypt region was thought to be the predecessors of ATLANTIS.

    From the Rosicrucian history: In the late 17th century, following a plan originally proposed by Francis Bacon in The New Atlantis, a colony of Rosicrucian leaders was organized to establish the Rosicrucian arts and sciences in America. AMERICA is a modern translation of an ancient PERUVIAN word for "AMARUCA" or "AMERUCA" meaning the "Land of the SERPENT". Serpent is a symbol for MYSTICAL WISDOM and SPIRITUAL POWER.

    Peru is the home of the INCAN empire. In the Peruvian government there is the Fujimorista Alliance for the Future (13 seats). The Illuminati has 13 bloodlines. The constellation of DRACO has 13 stars. 13 is the date that the Earth entered the fifth world (the spirit world, or aether world), August 13, 3113 BC. In tarot 13 is the number for death which archetypically speaking means spiritual rebirth.


    SO. If you don't want to worship Lucifer, STOP thinking that the third dimension is real. STOP thinking about money, physical differences. STOP thinking that your body is the only life you have. If you submit to these ideas, to ideas in general you are indirectly willingly worship lucifer.

  179. It all depend on the context and on the spirit which undelies the ceremony.

    Here in Tuscany, Italy, animal blessings are very common.

    In Montesenario Abbey a "motorcycles blessing ceremony" takes place every year too.

    Does anybody think that the order of the Servants of Mary ( est. 1233 ) hosts luciferic worship?

    Just publishing some pictures doesn't prove anything but the astonishing shallowness and unbounded ignorance of these american christian neo-crusaders.

  180. Osiris is the egyptian god of the dead, the hemets were pagans, they worshipped the creation and not the creator. Paganism is evil, it focuses around yourself and the earth, everything that is temporial. God demands loyality, repect, love and trust. Man on a whole does not identify with God no more has been decieved by the trickery of smoke and mirrors i.e music, television, movies. To truthseeker, how do you know the suns real or the moons real, no one has pictures of the sun, all we know that it is it gives off light and heat. How does anyone know what anything is, all these man made tests to test the test are MAN-MADE. If JESUS CHRIST wasn't REAL than why does is this so-called myth disturb the godless, I know hercules and zueus aren't real but I don't feel compelled to argue against anyone that believes they are. The real question is that NO ONE can disprove the exsistence of GOD and JESUS CHRIST, you can try to but you'll be wrong. Proof that GOD exists= Just open up your eyes and see that your on a sphere revolving in space at alittle over 1000 miles per hour giving you the right mixture of air and moisture, and perfecting aligned with a ball of intense heat that would disolve you if only a few inches closer. Anyone that says that GOD doesn't exist and that JESUS CHRIST is not the truth only lives lost life. In a courtroom, 2 or more witnesses aginst you can convict for the rest of your life, there were thousands of witnesses to JESUS's Miracles, non-believers saw GOD in the flesh turn water to wine, feed thousands with a few loaves of bread & fish, Witness after witness seeing JESUS talk and walk with them after he rose from the grave, the same people that saw him extremely beaten and dead for the sins of ungrateful mankind. Duse you wouldn't even give a penny to a homelessman, JESUS died and rose up from the dead period, no one can disprove this and all the illuminated heathens that sold there souls for fame, money and power, that billions on media control to convince the sheep that he is not real will regret the side they chose. The day will come really soon when a line will be made and sides will be chosen, the enemy aready knows his days are numbered so he uses mankind like toy soldiers against GOD, he'll fail and his plastic soldiers fighting in a minature dirt war will melt away:)

  181. Shamael Ben Shabatha on

    When I read all these comments, it confirms me that so many people write and speak about a subject from which they ignore all. The only words God vs Satan, or, will Satan take over the world or even better Stans worshiping, let me think about how low there knowledge is and how much they are interested in the only religion that has any value, TRUTH. Jesus in what he represents in the bible is the Sun, the son of God, that holyness that keeps all alive. The opponent of his light is the darkness. All monotheistic Religions lead human in error, that is the reason for all this violence we live over thousand of years and it goes on.

    We are in an universe of counter rotating fields of magnetism. On a general point of view, a magnet has two poles that attract or reject. But, the human is a double 4 pole magnet and his double 4 pole fields give him a power that none of those who have not studied this can ever imagine. It are those 4 pole magnetic fields that give us the ability to find attraction points and that makes all these humans on earth so different, so individual.

    Leading powers, at the base of which are most descendants of the Templars know how to use that polarity and have ease to wash brains and condition humans in a way that they believe just anything. Any human is comparable to a nut. A nut has two shells and in inside of this nut, anyone of us builds his own world, classifies all we see in common in his own way of sight, evaluation and thought. This EGO makes any of that nuts an individuum. All the nuts live side by side, they see each other and even being interconnected, none of all is conscient about what is inside the other one, nor can he have any opinion on any of them. In this world mankind creates opinions by relationship. It means that, to get diversity and judgment we needs at least 2 nuts and then we can build a relation. If we can relate, we can compare and if we can compare we can forge an opinion. Without this, nothing can look different and there is no "other side". The other one is cammed in hebrew "shaitan". So, anyone of us is God and Shaitan. Look inside yourself and evaluate different opinions about one subject, write all you can find about one single object you see, take it, evaluate it, mutilate it and change it many times in your mind and find a consensus that you retain and give the child a name or an evaluation. If then you read about your conclusion you will see that there is a lot left to think about. That gives you an idea how much God, the result of your conclusion is divided by the other side, Shaitan. You will stick to your opinion and keep the rejected in mind, but, at any time, new facts can come and change this opinion, complete the rejected and give to it another picture, lets the symbol look different and the whole process starts again and another conclusion will change you mind. We all are between that pillars, we, the Neutral being without mind in the center and reason on the left, the severity on the right. Right, we are nothing more then a scale, a libra, that takes all images that our eye catches up and scales them, compares them to other similar things, makes the difference and then classifies them. All our way of describing all what we see and classifying the diversity in a catalog of species with names for each of them, comes out of this ability that these 2 Pillars between which you stand gives you. It are in another way the symbol of the two shells of your nut. We are all divide between positive and negative and wit those 2 fields we forge our opinion. For or against, there is no neutral since then we drop the subject. Beware of creating dogmas, specially those based on non evidence or on that false beliefs we call faith. There is nothing more dangerous then faith and faith is the worse enemy of knowledge because it put a locked door to the development of brain and mind, to the evolution of knowledge and wisdom. I think that most of us should, before opening there mind to others, learn the base principles of philosophy and read some books. The secret teachings of all ages by Manly hall or Pikes Morals and Dogma are those books that show you the way to take. We are all born in the dark and need to go towards the light. The first Lucifer in the tree is Venus, the morning star that pulls the sun behind and brings the globe into the light. Venus is your mother the first being to clam you once born, the first being showing you the way out of darkness and brings you to the path of light. Your father is the second, your teacher, the fals prophet or the priest is the next and in the middle of your life you become Lucifer yourself, teaching the acquired knowledge to others. But, does any one of you thinks that there is a future telling stories of babies, cabbage and storks to children and sticking on this story without even finding out what the real sense of the story is. Jesus, the successor of Moses, was a Kabalist, he used the Name of the Sun to teach the wisdom. Even in other religion Teachers use the names of the energy field to name themselves what is, to my opinion a bad practice. Yeshua, a synonim of YHVH, the Tetragrammaton in the Jewish Kabalah. In Islam the field spells MHMD, Muhamad. The two religions are mirrored states since the Christian religion worships the man, thus is a woman religion in which the man is the negative being, the Islam is opposed state where the man worships the woman and the man is positive field. This is why at the head of the catholic religion there is a Man, the Papa, in Islam there is female component, the Imam. Read Imam from the rear and you get Mami, the name that any child gives to it's mother. Islam means Isis and Lamed. Isis, the mother of creation, Lamed is the scale in hebrew symbol of the letter L. This gives the name to the Islam, "the religion of justice" in the description of the seven churches of the bible. It's color is green, the color of the light-bringer, Venus, the goddess of love and love is intolerant. The Symbol of Islam is the morning star, Venus, bringing the sun over the earth and the sun appears on the horizon as a crescent sun, just the way we see the moon with the shade of earth on it. Green is intolerant ,and no need to prove that. Anyway, the name of Islamic god says it all, me or nothing. Al is the name of the god of gods, Jupiter the ruler and la means in jewish and arab nothing. So Allah is All or nothing and that is what the Coran preaches. Allah or die. So, prior to express on subjects where most of you are ignorants, learn, learn to read the symbols, learn how names, transformed in numbers and numbers transformed in Names, how branched coding, Notaricon and Temurah can change the sense of any text and then try to read the bible and the Qu'ran to understand the real message of scienc, knowledge and wisdom that is hidden in those scriptures. I learned the base of Kabalah at 9, went into the rabbinic state at 18 and teach now Kabalah since more then 40 years. Only the deep study of the occult, the esoteric message hidden in the scriptures can show you the way and make you understand how you are miss-lead by false beliefs, finding evil spirits which are nothing else to find then inside yourself. Think about that all that exists is God, all that lives or is death, moves and stays immobile, is God. All of us are an image of him and all of us come from the same source, the Energy-field, what a scientist would call Atom. So; let me say you a prayer, an old and wise one. Adonai, our lord in heaven, help all those humans to keep there big mouth shout until they have reached the day they know what they talk about. Amen

  182. Blah blah blah we are ALL missing the point when we argue like this. Since Truth is beyond mere words, and has to be actually experienced, we are better off meditating, or praying, or whatever it is that actually connects you to Higher Reality. I wonder how many people we can sway by arguing and putting our belief system above anothers? i would say ZERO. Just practise, don't preach.

  183. Here's a nice list of atrocities committed by the god of the Old Testament, if you believe in that scripture (go and check, it's all in black and white):

    Mass Killings And Cruelties Ordered, Committed, Approved By God

    The entire population of the earth at the time of Noah, except for eight survivors, in a flood. "And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth; and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark." Gen 7:23 [Jehovah, the first mass-murderer, starts His bloody carrier.]

    Every inhabitant of Sodom and Gammorrah, and the surrounding plain, by "brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." Gen 19:24 Lot and his family fled. [What about little innocent children in the city and around on the surrounding plain.]

    All the first born of every family in Egypt, including children of those in dungeons and the successor to the throne of Egypt's Pharaoh, by God on the first Passover night. Ex 12:29 [Of those that are in prison and the first born of the cattle??????]

    All the hosts of Pharaoh, including the captains of 600 chariots, who drown in the Red Sea while pursuing the Israelites. "… and the Lord overthrew the Egyptians in the midst of the sea." Ex 14:27-28 [The Christian God is so childish He has to murder instead of using His brain. He could have made them too sick to walk.]

    Victims who perish in the conquest of seven nations in Canaan by the Jews under Gods' guidance so that the Jews can occupy their lands as God had promised Abraham in Deut 7:1,2. The Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites were all destroyed, every man, woman and child and mercy was shown to none. [Would have made Adolph and Custer feel good.]

    Amalek and his people, by the edge of the sword, because God wants to fight with Amalek from generation to generation (maybe just for fun). The Israelites win if Aaron helps Moses to hold up his hands. [At times of crisis, God gets whimsical. People are dying everywhere and God wants to see Moses's palms.] Ex 17:11,16

    3,000 Israelites die at the hands of their brothers, the Levites, every man, their brothers and their companions. Ex. 32:27 [These were the orders of God who would brook no disloyalty, a self styled "jealous" God.]

    Rulers of Israel, eleven in number after spying for forty days that wouldn't invade the Promised Land are killed by a plague. Num. 14:37 [The first term limitation?]

    250 Levite princes of the Jews who challenged the leadership of Moses. When Moses points out the injustice of killing the whole congregation God relents briefly, then swallows up two of the princes, "their wives, sons and little children", then sent a fire to consume the remaining princes. Num. 16:1-40 [The Christian God lies too.]

    14,700 people die by plague who protest to Moses about the prior killing of the 250 princes. Aaron makes an atonement to stop the plague. Num 16:41-49 [The Christian God seems bent upon destroying helpless people.]

    The Canaanites at Hormah, utterly destroyed, every man woman and child, by God at the request of the Jews. Num 21:3

    The Amorites at Hesbon, Israel "took all these cities". Moses sums up the slaughter: "We… utterly destroyed the men and the women and the little ones." Num 21:25 and Deut 2:34

    All the sons and subjects of Og, about whom the Lord said to Moses: "Fear him (the king of Bashan) not, for I have delivered him into thy hand." None was left alive. Num 21:34-35

    24,000 Israelites who cohabitated with Moabite women and worshiped Baal. "And the Lord said to Moses, take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun…" Num 25:4,9 [Definitely a civil rights violation.]

    All the males and the kings of the Middianites, because they worshiped idols, and all their wives and male children were sold into slavery. "And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, vex the Midianites, and smite them." Num 25:16-17 and Num 31:7-8

    The subjects of two kingdoms on the east side of the Jordan, in order that Reuben and Gad might seize the land for their own as a gift from God. Num 32

    The Ammonites, decimated by the Lord so that Lot might possess their land. Deut 2:19-21

    The Horims, slain by God in order that Esau might take their land. Deut 2:22

    All the citizens of Jericho, except for a whore and her family. "And they utterly destroyed all in the city, man and woman, young and old, and ox… with the edge of the sword." Josh 6 "They" make a grizzly game of it , using the superstitious number 7 popular in the Bible. [Joshua competes with Moses, the leader he replaced, for the title of Gods number 1 hit man as he follows Gods orders.]

    12,000 men, women and children die in a treacherous ambush conceived and directed by God. Joshua, with the usual mindless hocus-pocus, holds out his spear until all the inhabitants are dead. The city was then burned. Afterwards Joshua builds an altar and offers thanks to God. Josh 8:1-30 [A political monster worships a Murderous Monster of a Deity.]

    All the people of Makkedah, and their king hanged, by Joshua. Joshua 10:28

    All the people of Libnah. Not a soul remained. Joshua 10:29-30 [Joshua and God were agreed upon the finality of capital punishment.]

    All the people of Gezer, with none remaining, are killed. Josh 10:33

    All the people of Eglon, none remaining, are killed. Joshua 10:34-35

    All the people of Hebron, "All the cities and souls that were in them". Joshua 10:36-37

    All the inhabitants of the country of the hills, and the south of the vale, and the springs and their kings, he left none remaining but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded. Joshua 10:40 [Joshua simply kills everyone else.]

    The inhabitants of Gaza, Askerlon, and Ekron, killed by Judah and Caleb. Judges 1:18-19

    10,000 Moabites, killed by the Israelites. Judges 3:29

    10,000 Perizzites and Canaanites die at the hand of Judah and Simeon. Judges 1:4 [Isn't it nice how the body counts always come out as nice round numbers?]

    120,000 Midianites die by the hands of Gideons three hundred men. Judges 8:10

    50,070 people of Bethshemesh, struck dead by God because a few of them looked at/into the Ark carrying the stone tablets. 1st Samuel 6:19 [The murderous Christian God keeps the grave-diggers busy with overtime burying the innocents.]

    70,000 victims (more round numbers?) die of a pestilence sent by God because David took a census. 11 Sam 24:15

    Although Adam and Eve have no sense of right and wrong when they eat of the Tree of Knowledge, God accuses them of sinning and tosses them out of their home. Prejudging the human race he then decrees that all shall suffer for this "sin" by returning to the dust from which Adam was made. The Christian God curses women with painful birth. Gen 3

    Cain kills Abel because God is partial to altar sacrifices, preferring animals to grain. Gen 4 [The Christian God plainly doesn't like vegetarians.]

    At the time of the Flood, a disaster not uncommon to the tradition of other religions, Noah, an imbiber, and his family are the only persons deemed righteous enough to be saved from drowning. All others, including pregnant women and children, are given no opportunity to survive the rising waters. Gen 7,8

    Again attributing sin to innocents God fails to find even 10 persons, or embryos in any stage of gestation, saintly enough to escape the fire and brimstone (Biblical napalm). God turns Lots wife into a pillar of salt when she looks back in horror at what is happening to her friends and neighbors. Gen 19 [Today many Christians oppose any abortion as a God forbidden murder. Where is the logical precedent here? The Omnipotent Christian God is the Abortionist to abort all abortionist.]

    Abraham is certainly willing to do what ever the Lord demands of him, even when God orders him to kill his son. But all turns out Ok when an angel yells really loud to Abraham that it was just a test to see how much he loved God. Isaac is very lucky indeed. Abraham may have been near deaf at his age and the Angel was calling long distance from heaven. [Truly a miracle.] Gen 22

    When Sarah gets jealous and insists, proven Abraham consigns Hagar and Ishmael to the deserts to die. Gen 21 [Does this qualify as domestic abuse or violence?]

    Pharaoh orders all midwifes to strangle new born Jewish children. Of course they refused. Pharaoh then orders them to throw the babies into the river. Ex 1:18,22 [What's interesting to note here is that some Christian parents at the present time deny their children blood-curdling television and give them blood-curdling Bibles.]

    Moses kills an Egyptian deliberately for beating an Israelite. Ex 2:12 He then becomes God's Lawgiver. One of his commandments straight from God is thou shalt not kill (murder). [Two wrongs don't make a right. Was Moses a murder even before he led the Israelite rebellion??]

    God tries to kill Moses, because his son by a Middianite woman is not circumcised. His wife, angered, circumcises the boy with a sharp rock and throws the foreskin at Moses's feet. God then lets Moses off the hook. Ex 4:24-26 [God has priorities, including the horrible genital mutilation of young boys.]

    After first purposely hardening Pharaoh's heart so that he will not see the Israelites free, God, through the black magic of Aarons rod, visits ten terrible plagues upon the unsuspecting Egyptians. Ex 7-11 [Even the innocent animals are victims of this truly evil black magic.]

    The needless, brutal slaughter of the Passover night is the intended result of another hardening of Pharaohs heart by an egotistical maniacal God who wishes to parade his power. Ex 12:29 [Thus God continues his propensity for making the innocents suffer for the guilty which culminates in the crucifixion of His own innocent Son Jesus.]

    More heart hardening by God causes Pharaoh to chase the Israelites into the Red Sea, where the soldiers die by drowning. Ex 14:28 [If God could harden pharaoh heart he could have caused pharaoh to let them go free. Nothing to it.]

    For "offering strange fire before the Lord", two sons of Aaron, priests of the tabernacle, are struck dead. Lev 10:1-2 [Not to worry, replacements are on the way.]

    A blasphemer curses the name of God in the wilderness camp, and God orders him stoned to death: "And he children of Israel did as the Lord commanded Moses. Lev 24:23 [The rocky terrain of Palestine broods ill for miscreants and protesters. (Again God could have changed his heart and not killed him.)]

    Israelites who complain, with good reason, in the desert, are burned with fire by God in the uttermost parts of the camp. Num 11:1 [Evidently the Christian God loves the smell of roasting, poaching, baking, broiling or burning human flesh?]

    Seeing that the Jews are dissatisfied on their journey to the Promised Land because they have no flesh to eat as they had in Egypt, God typically loses his temper again and in a childish way sends a vast excess of quail, enough to cover the ground a days travel in each direction and they stack up to a height of more than 3 feet. As the people started to eat the fruits of their labor "God smote them with a very great plague." Num 11:31-33 [I guess it was better to be a vegetarian after all. Remember Cain?]

    The Israelites are forced to wander for 40 years in the desert so that the older people would die. Num 14 [The Christian God despises old people.]

    A man caught picking up sticks on the Sabbath is ordered by God to be put to death, and the wandering tribes comply. Num15:35-36 [A novel approach to the homeless problem?]

    Challenge of the authority of Moses (remember him murdering people in Egypt?) by anyone always brought out the worse in God, and he buries _alive_ the wives and children of the two princes who oppose Moses. Num 16:32-35

    After striving to reach the Promised Land for forty years, Moses and Aaron are denied entry because Moses had struck a rock in anger to obtain water. Moses is allowed to look at it once though just before he dies. Num 20:11-12 and Deut 34 [The Christian God might have shown a little compassion for Moses who was probably at his wits end.]

    God turns Miraim into a leper after she criticizes Moses for marring an Ethiopian woman. Such unions were contrary to Jewish custom and also disapproved of by God for everyone _except_ Moses. Num 12:10

    …and people wonder where Israel get their foreign policy from.

  184. So Jesus could not POSSIBLY have been worshipping Jehovah / Yahweh of the Old Testament. Jesus seems a pretty nice guy, I feel that when he referred to his HEAVENLY FATHER he was talking about SOMEONE ELSE.

  185. And yet…the whole underlying premise of mainstream Christianity is that we are all inherently bad due to our distant ancestor having eaten the wrong kind of fruit, and that only a blood sacrifice of an innocent man to god can atone for this (inherited) guilt. can anyone see why I have a problem with the whole damn thing here??? it inherently sucks. I do believe in a good and just Divine Orderer, and I will never renounce this. But the acts described in the Bible attributed to 'God' just don't cut it. If a human being acted like that, we would lock them up, and rightly so! May the (actual) Highest preserve us!

  186. I have to give the othr side the benefit of doubt on the sculpt of the twin tower seeming collapse. I dont really see the collapse here – anymoreso than the other buildings around. It could be that the sculptor sculpted with intention of creating a kaliedoscopish view.

  187. Paddy the Irishman on

    This is a Protestant Church – and we all know that the Protestant Church was founded by Henry the 8th cos he wanted to have as many women as he liked …… after which he would cut their heads off ! Right ?

    Th Pope said no ….. so he said … right- I will form my own church !

  188. it is my deepest hope that those passing by the VC site will not overlook pieces such as this, and will do their own research of such matters, and especially the Bible. the music video/contemporary media bits are telling, but these essays go a bit further. and so many are blind to how their reality is being massaged by others.

    here is the best part of this piece:

    "Like I’ve said in the beginning, I do not condemn any faith, whether its Muslim, Christian or Wiccan. All faiths contain wisdom in their teachings. But messing with people’s faiths and tricking them into worshiping something else is pure, epic, biblical proportions, Cobra from GI Joe, Skeletor from He-Man Evil. Some say that Satan is the master of deceit. Well, people going to mass into that Cathedral are being deceived in ways they can’t even imagine. Paul has warned the Corinthians:

    “…for such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder. For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works”

    -(II Corinthians 11:13-15)."

    fellow travelers, no matter your path, if you haven't already, please ask the Holy Spirit to give you eyes of discernment. the scales will fall away and the Truth crowds out the lies of the Great Deceiver. there is pain in truth, but there is so much more peace in the Truth, the Way, the Life. He welcomes all, not just a chosen few.

    see Acts 17:11

  189. I hate to burst your bubble on the Procession of Ghouls but there is nothing even resembling the occult involved with it if you look into Catholic theology.

    Halloween, according to Catholicism, is the day when all the ghouls and demons are set loose upon the Earth. The day after, All Saints Day, is when the spirits of all the saints come and all the demons go away once more.

    The Procession of Ghouls is simply a representation of Halloween. Is it a little overblown? Sure. But it is not an occult ceremony by any means. It is a dramatic theater show that will be followed by a mass the next day on All Saints Day to expurgate the demons.

    Sidenote: I find it interesting that the Roman Catholic Church specifically forbids any member from being a Freemason or member of any other ungodly secret society but Freemasons were able to build a Catholic cathedral. Seems strange but I am not a knee jerk conspiracist.

    • It is fitting indeed. For clarification, though, the cathedral is not a catholic one. It is episcopal. St. Patrick's is the catholic cathedral in nyc (there can only be one cathedral per diocese). Knowing the current and former catholic archbishops, this probably wouldn't fly there. I don't blame them as this would be walking the line in most churches, even if it was followed by a high mass on All Saints Day.

      Still, St. John the Divine is a tremendous setting for such an event. It is a beautiful/creepy enough building as it is. I've always wanted to drop in for evensong.

  190. I don't believe in God, Jesus or Satan; but I do believe in the existence of power, greed and wealth.

    This is exactly what this is, and religious or not, we should all be opening our eyes and protecting each other from this NWO movement which is becoming clearer every day.

  191. I enjoy much of this website. The problem is you seem to constantly be lumping environmentalism, progressive thinking and "new" spirituality (really a remembering of Spirit and what we are as souls in this universe) with the Illuminati agendas. Everything can be used for good or evil–even being a Mason does not make you automatically evil or part of this agenda. The problem is that the only people who have this spiritual/occult wisdom are power hungry elites who use their knowledge for selfish purposes. You claim to respect Wiccans and all religions, all spiritual perceptions, but I don't usually get this vibe from your blog. Is there something wrong with environmentalism??? Last time I checked, protecting the earth will save the species…unless you all want to destroy the earth because it doesn't matter anyway as long as Jesus saves you. What kind of a mindset is that? In my opinion, the Earth is our HOME and we cannot destroy, rape, and disregard it any more than we would trash our own house! Please stop lumping together sincere environmentalism and spiritual seeking with illuminati agendas. ANY true spiritual seeker, regardless of their path, would resist the NWO agenda of enslavement.

  192. By the way, I'm not trying to trash your article, you may be right about the cathedral–the one-seeing-eye pyramid and apocalyptic pillars are pretty telling. Just wanted to get clear about non-Christians not being evil…

  193. I heard about THEM trying to form 1 world religion by melting all traditions and beliefs into a singular form of deity … but this is outrageous .. and when I think even I was tricked to take part in such gatherings while I was studying in California .. a friend of mine told me about this really popular "spiritual" center called Agape .. and I went there, true, people were really nice, but I always had a funny feeling about it .. now I understand why .. good job VC .. I will pass on the word to people, we all need to wake up !

  194. Did anyone else notice the orbs in that picture, where they mock Jesus made up of sticks in that Extravaganza thing?!!!!
    That's ALOT of orbs.

  195. we rely on science to improve our lives.
    worship medicine,chem,phys,worship the sun to keep us ongoing.worship the moon and the galactic black hole.its enough,we dont want hell and paradise 666
    we grow,educate,serve,love marry have children,die in the universe.its enough..

  196. Whoever wrote that article about the 12 most beautiful churches in America must have been wearing blinders.
    I am so grateful to the person that wrote this article, it is the TRUTH. In fact, in naming the most beautiful churches they left out one of the outstanding churches, The Cathedral of thr Immaculate Conception in Washington, D.C.

  197. Let it be known that this is an Episcopalian cathedral, and I am sorry for the Episcopalians that this is so. Why this little fact is left out of the article I can only speculate. Coming at the end of the article is this: "Well, people going to mass into that Cathedral are being deceived in ways they can’t even imagine." As far as I know, Episcopalians do not call their worship services "masses." Possibly the author is trying to deceive people who read the article into believing that this is a Catholic cathedral. This type of deceit has been one of the hallmarks of Protestantism for the last 500 years, from Luther on. I can only assume that the author is some flavor of fundamentalist Protestant whose clergy or choir members do not wear robes. Are we going to see pictures of a "pagan" Methodist choir in the next article? Somehow, I doubt it. Though it must be said that the article includes exaggerations and speculations. For instance, is there really something wrong with wearing white robes? People around the world for millenia have worn robes. Because some "pagans" wore them in some of their rituals, does that make them somehow evil? Has the author ever worn a bathrobe? If so, then he must be following an ancient "pagan" practice, because the pagans also wore robes. Did they also make the color white evil? Maybe it's ok to wear bathrobes, as long as they're not white. Or is it only that white robes cannot be worn in ritualistic contexts? Then the author will be forced to admit by his own logic that St. Johns's vision of the celestial liturgy as recorded in Revelation of people clad in white robes is really an evil, Satanic, paganistic ritual occurring around the throne of God. In the time of Jesus, people routinely wore white tunics. What conclusions do you draw from Jesus' own vesting habits, dear author? Please get a grip.

  198. I'm sure in the "pagan rituals" alluded to, people read and/or sung from books or at least manuscripts, consumed food or beverages as part of the ritual, walked around, and sang in unison. Are these things now off limits for good, Bible-believin' Christians? So much for singing the national anthem and "take me out to the ballgame" at sporting events. Gee, I was really looking forward to sustaining my bodily existence by having dinner tonight, too bad. If the author is wearing a wedding ring, and it's quite likely that he is, then I hereby accuse him of following a practice derived from the pagans, and it is well-known that this is so. When he goes outside, he probably also worships the sun. As another example, the author states that animal worship occurs in this cathedral, using the logic of "there were animals there, and there were humans there, so the animals must have been worshiped." Where are the pictures of the congregation prostrating themselves before the animals? Where are the verifiable references to witnesses of prayer to the animals, such as, "O great Bell, cow-god of the plains, we beseech thee to grant us a good harvest this year?" Sounds ridiculous? Certainly, because we all know these things did not happen. But this is exactly what is being put forward as what did, in fact, occur, and nothing less, as the author has accused these people of animal worship, and these are things one does in worship. Again, get a grip on reality, dear author. Don't you know that telling malicious lies about others is a violation of the 10 Commandments? Your own conscience should accuse you. May I suggest you make a better use of your God-given time on this earth than writing articles on the internet. "Repent, and believe the Good News!"

  199. I just ran across a couple of comments. The first, by user "Another Perspective," from 137 weeks ago, begins thusly: "Interesting. I will ask this, is the Catholic church even a true church anyway?" and goes on from there with the usual anti-Catholic stuff. This question entered "Anothers" mind because he or she thought that this was a Catholic cathedral. Was I just imagining things when I said that Protestants have been engaging in this kind of stuff for 500 years? And so it continues. They started this campaign of lies and falsehoods and continue it for one primary reason: to justify their own existence, that is, their very legitimacy to exist apart from the one and only Church founded by Jesus Christ. It's sad, really.

    Here's a quote from another user, "jessah," from 163 weeks ago: "Hey can you make an article about the Catholics, the Popes, etc. What are there roles? Are they evil?" She goes on to say that, "Im very very confuse….. And seeking for the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!"

    I hope other readers aren't so gullible, but I have to admit I don't have much in the way of hope for this.

    "Repent and believe the Good News!"

  200. While it's true that the internet has continued the lies, misrepresentations, misunderstandings, and outright calumny of Protestants, I think on the whole it is serving the cause of Truth as Protestants are able, possibly for the first time, TO EASILY READ AND STUDY FOR THEMSELVES WHAT THE CHURCH ACTUALLY BELIEVES AND TEACHES, and what she has always believed and taught, as witnessed by the writings of the Church Fathers (quick fact: did you know that St. Ignatius of Antioch was actually a disciple of St. John?! He died in the Colosseum as a faithful witness to Christ by the teeth of the lions, at the hands of the Romans), other saints, documents of Church councils, catechisms, etc. As a result, many of them are finally coming home. Here is a link to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which is the official and definitive document of what the Church believes and practices, straight from the horse's mouth, as opposed to "biased," shall we say, information from Bob's website:

    Better yet, you can buy a copy for all of $10.17 with FREE Super Saver Shipping:

    Or get the shorter (only 200 pages) Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( for $8.72, also with FREE Super Saver Shipping!

    If you're willing, Bob, I'll even send you a free copy. You are interested in the Truth, right? Well, now you can know the truth of what the Catholic Church (or Roman Catholic Church, in your parlance) actually teaches. You can also check out It sounds like it might be right up your alley. It is run by an excellent apologist, John Martignoni, and you can get tons of free stuff there, including free mp3 downloads of his talks.

    Of course, Bob, I'm just using you to represent a group of people. What I said applies to any number of people and their websites, including many of the people who have commented on the article, from proud, self-proclaimed "reasonable and free-thinking" atheists to the merely curious.(except the offer of a free book, of course!) Then, armed with this knowledge, you can step up your attacks on the Church, correct your misunderstandings, agree with what the Church teaches on some things but not others, etc. But the one thing you CAN NO LONGER DO is repeat things that are you know to be false about the Catholic Church, without sinning of course. I would hope you don't do that, what with the 10 Commandments and God's righteous judgement and all that. God Bless.

  201. Sorry, you'd have to read jessah's post in order to understand who Bob is. I should have explained. Bob wrote the following, in response to jessah's post:

    "@jessah – Don't despair about these things, satan will use anything and anybody that he can to keep you from the truth. I think many or most of your questions and concerns are covered here. There is a lot of info so take your time and browse around, specially the Q&A section."

    Bob's website says it is "Non-Denominational Endtime Bible-Based Christian Studies, Current Events, and Christian Questions & Answers" and has many anti-Catholic things on it (imagine that!). I can only assume that Bob assumed the cathedral of St. John the Divine was a Catholic cathedral.

    Also, I messed up the link to the Compendium of the CCC by my parentheses. Here it is: http//

    Peace, everyone!

  202. And ye shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall make you Free. John 8:32__Realize there are alot of inverted un Truths being shared by groups associated with Aleister Crowley.__Such as Thelema, Rosicrucians, OTO and a few more (None are associated with Freemasons)___Being Crowley did have a short affiliation with the Masons he used some of their Degrees and mixed it with his own. He then went on to form some alternate groups that in spite of represent some symbolism which is of direct Truth yet altered in meaning and significance of True Masonary.

    • This is a current problem and issue in today's mass misinformation regarding the conspiracy of Secret Societies. Here is a link for any to research and make further conclusions. In hopes this may be informative and help correct alot of the misleadings today based on hearsay and public fear and lack of proper knowledge. Many Musicians are affiliated with these offshoot groups and have perpetuated false tactics and Hollywood Hype in the Media to Mislead the General Public and also put them Against their own Gov't thru improvised Movies and Holywood Alteration of innacurate projection of meetings that have no significance to what has been portrayed. It can be recognized as a series of Satanic tactics to lead people into deceptions and misunderstanding of Truth. It will take keen understanding for one to see thru the mass deception. Good luck and please do your research before you get sidetracked by the Hollywood and Music Illusion.

  203. Folks, I hate to burst your bubble but the Cathedral of St. John the Divine is NOT a Catholic cathedral. It is an ANGLICAN cathedral (Church of England).

  204. look… i am of new age/spiritual belief. Basically a culminated concept of my own i continuously build up. But the important part of all the sinister sites is that people should know. They should understand that they are being mislead. They are being indoctrinated. They are being fooled. They have a right to know. But they fight against the truth. How scary it must be to realize that the religions we trust are lying to us. I have follow Wiccan/Pagan lifestyle in my life and Christians have serious issues with that saying its evil – but then look around you and see the evil everywhere – they would be horrified if they were told to go pray in a coven. I believe in knowledge. How can you believe something if you dont have all the knowledge?
    Read sheeple read.
    If the 'Illuminati' believe in knowledge – sign me up – beats teh hell out of walking around like an idiot being conned into thinking a man from long ago is he only way to heaven? Sounds like a kids story.

    WE all have the power to change our lives and reach enlightenment.


    • It seems the satanic elites have brainwashed you wonderfully. You are an great example of an dupe and a fool.

      I think the sheeple is you.

  205. Another great article. 'They' think they can change reality by taking over human consciousness which is energy.

    This sort of redirection of worship is what they want so we worship the EFFECT – nature / science and not the CAUSE – divinity.

    It is an attempt at reversal of divine laws. But the effect can never be cause.

  206. Wow… And I've been there before. It just looks like any other cathedral to me. I never noticed anything strange!!

    • Caspar the Crucified on

      Do not be fooled, the Peace Statue is thoroughly satanic/pagan. Everything about this cathedral, it's statues, livery and icons reek evil and foul, satanic beliefs of the global elite. All elites are evil and corrupt to the core, do not believe for a second there is a single decent man or woman among them.

      They are all active pedophiles, murderers, Satan worshippers, rapists and torturers, and this vile cathedral they've built to honour their "god" -Lucifer/Satan- reflects the darkness of their foul, diseased hearts and souls.

      But the fury of the Lord is great, and soon all the Earth will cleansed by a deluge of bloodshed and fire, unleashed by the Lord upon the sin-infested world. And the wrath of the God shall consume all those who have followed the false gods and fallen angels and their servants, and there will be no rest for their torment.

      Amen, come Lord Jesus!

  207. .
    Jer.51 42 "The sea has come up over Babylon; she is covered with the multitude of its waves."
    Pillars on St. John the Divine Cathedral [ Jeremiah 51:42-44 ]
    Jer.51:64 "Then you shall say, "Thus Babylon shall sink and not rise from the catastrophe that I will bring upon her. And they shall be weary." Thus are the words of Jeremiah.
    Revelation 18:21-24. "Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, "Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found anymore…….23 ……For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived…..24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth."

  208. .
    From "Am," "mother," and "arka," "earth," you get "Amarka," "The Mother of the Earth.", alias Rhea, Cybele etc, The Mother of Gods and Men, alias the Roman Catholic Mary, the "queen of heaven" [Jeremiah 44:17,18,19,25], and most surely these manifestations which all represent Nimrods wife are represented by the "Statue of Liberty" in New York harbour. [ note 1, p.77. The Goddess Mother of Habitation" – "The Two Babylons" by Alexander Hislop.]

    and from the same book page 158 — The Golden Cup —- Revelation 17:4

    "……….Thus then the cup bearing goddess was at once Venus, the goddess of licentiousness, and Nemesis, the stern and unmerciful one to all who rebelled against her authority.

    How remarkable a woman, whom John saw [Rev.] described in one aspect as the "Mother of harlots" and in another as "Drunken with the blood of the saints!"

  209. Hello. Does anybody know if out-of-body experiences ,astral projection and yoga are bad things by themselves or is just the way you use it? Because I´m interested in those kind of things and when I read about conspiracy theories this type of things always appeared associated with the evil and the Illuminati. Thank you very much.

  210. finger in her hole on

    Once the last thrust of passion ceases and the climax has left a come filled hole, the key is to watch the come flow from her lips… slowly oozing. If you are a gentleman, you will use the cum as lubricant to finger bang her. Curve your fingers upwards, in a "come here" fashion while thrusting them deeply and rather forcefully. Once she nears the end, her whole body writhing in ecstasy, watch as she comes harder than ever! Then perhaps, you should finger bang her again.

  211. I'm really enjoying your site. I've read about 20 articles in the last 24 hours. Can't get enough. I really appreciate your analysis on each topic. What is really interesting about the Illuminati is they keep using things like "environmentalism" as their agenda, which tricks us into fearing objectively good things like environmentalism. For every scenario they try to impose on us (choosing between the duality of environmentalism vs. non-environmentalism for example) we have to keep in mind that there is always a third option: the true form of what they've twisted. For example, illuminati environmentalism means sacrificing many so that a few can live in the lap of luxrury and do whatever they want while enjoying a beautiful planet free of "useless eaters." True environmentalism would mean 100% of us respecting our "home," the planet we live on, and operating by the truth that for every cause there is an effect. Choice is the most creative power we have. If we operate with choices in our value system that all life is valuable, and values that every major religion seems to teach like doing to others what we want done to us, non-violence, compassion, etc. we could have a healthier world within months. For example we already produce enough food for 15 billion people, but most of it goes to feed animals that "wealthy" people then get to eat, while humans starve to death. We eat over 280 billion animals a year and up to 50% of the earth's surface is dedicated to animal agriculture and the crops to feed them. Not including our oceans being greatly affected. If we lived with values of compassion, we would not need to eat animals, poison the earth, etc. True environmentalism means acting with compassion and not operating with greedy intentions. We can change the world quickly by helping people become aware of their true human natures of compassion and love. And that is something the illuminati will thwart at any cost. It seems to be what the mind control and symbols are all about, keeping us asleep within their duality. I got a lot of this info from SRA and Monarch survivor Jay Parker. He has a few youtube Satanic Ritual Abuse lectures at conferences he spoke at and he alludes to what the Illuminati is trying to cover up in us, and how we will break free from their system and overthrow what is currently hidden in the shadows. Really interesting and helpful stuff. Keep up the good work!!

    • Wanted to add, I also got the other facts from the new movie Cowspiracy. While these are totally different topics (SRA and Animal Agriculture) there were some fascinating overlapping truths in the understanding I've gleaned from both areas of research.

  212. Lucia, or rather St. Lucia of the catholic religion should not be compared to occult worship. Reading this article and how bad that guffaw was has made this entire site uncreditable . I would suggest a little fact checking in the future

  213. Participated in the liturgical dance blessing of the animals and am unaware of any paganism involved and I am a devout Christian. I learned a deeper affinity and tolerance of the animal maneuvering around excrement, a reality we know exists.
    My LORD and Savior Jesus made all creatures and beings therefore I rejoice in His handiwork. "Judge not lest ye be judged" is applicable here, however, thanks to "vigilante citizen" more investigation is necessary before participating in future endeavors.

  214. Stop the video about animal blessing at 1:15. See something? It is not very clear visible, but good enough to wonder what the hell that thing is doing in this cathedral or should I say-Synagogue?

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