In my article entitled Amy Winehouse and 27 Club, I mentioned that the circumstances surrounding Winehouse’s death are rather “suspicious” and that “suspicious” celebrity deaths are often followed by vague explanations, botched investigations and all kinds of shady business. After months of strange flip-flopping regarding the cause of Winehouse’s death, the coroner that was looking into the singer’s case, Suzanne Greenaway , has resigned because she “did not have the correct qualifications”. Even odder, she was appointed to this particular position by her husband, coroner Dr. Andrew Scott Reid. These events will probably cause the entire investigation to be held again.
Yup, that’s the typical blur of confusion, contradictions and all-around crap that usually surrounds celebrity sacrifices. Here’s an article on Suzanne Greenway’s resignation.
Family of Amy Winehouse considering legal action after coroner at her inquest resigns because she did not have the correct qualifications
Amy Winehouse’s family says it is seeking legal advice after the coroner who oversaw the singer’s inquest resigned because she did not have the required qualifications for the job – raising the possibility the investigation may have to be held again.In October, Suzanne Greenaway ruled that the soul singer had died from accidental alcohol poisoning.
Greenaway had been appointed an assistant deputy coroner in London by her husband, Inner North London Coroner Andrew Reid.
But she resigned in November after authorities learned she had not been a registered U.K. lawyer for five years as required.
She had practised law for a decade in her native Australia.
Her resignation was not made public until today.
The Office for Judicial Complaints has now launched an investigation into Dr Reid’s conduct.
Dr Andrew Scott Reid, coroner for the Inner Northern District of Greater London, says he appointed Suzanne Greenaway thinking she was qualified
‘I believed at the time that her experience as a solicitor and barrister in Australia satisfied the requirements of the post,’ Reid said in a statement.
‘In November of last year it became apparent that I had made an error in the appointment process and I accepted her resignation.’
Reid apparently broke no laws in appointing his wife but could have breached professional guidelines. Greenaway was one of several deputy assistant coroners.The local authority, Camden Council, said it was confident Reid ‘had made an error in good faith’ when he appointed his wife, but said the matter was being investigated by Britain’s Office for Judicial Complaints.
Winehouse’s inquest could be declared invalid if her family challenges the verdict in court.In a statement, the Winehouse family said it was ‘taking advice on the implications of this and will decide if any further discussion with the authorities is needed’.
Last night, meanwhile, Amy’s father, Mitch, tweeted: ‘Don’t worry about coroner nonsense. We are all ok. Mitch.’
Dr Reid said: ‘In November it became apparent I’d made an error in the appointment process. While I am confident that all of the inquests handled were done so correctly, I apologise if this matter causes distress.’
The inquest into the death of the singer heard that she’d drunk enough to stop her breathing and send her into a coma.
Three empty vodka bottles were found near her body in her bedroom.
A pathologist who examined her said she had 416mg of alcohol per decilitre of blood – five times the legal drink-drive limit of 80mg. The inquest heard that 350mg was usually considered a fatal amount.
A doctor who treated the 27-year-old for her alcohol problem said she had repeatedly ignored warnings about the dangers of binge drinking.
But private GP Christina Romete, who saw the singer hours before her death, said she did not believe Miss Winehouse had deliberately drunk herself to death.
She said she had told her: ‘I do not want to die… I have not achieved a lot of the things I wanted.’
Miss Winehouse won five Grammy awards for her 2006 hit album Back To Black. But she became as well-known for her battle with alcohol and drugs as for her singing.
She was found dead in her flat in Camden, North London, on July 23 last year.
- Source: Daily Mail
It was either resign from her job or resign from her life.
Could you explain why she had to resign from her career or resign from her life. Eventhough she ruled that amy died from alcohol posioning. Now if she said the cause of her death was suspicious i would understand, but she seemed to have given the "industry" appropiate cause as to why she died, so what did she have to fear. Actually the reason given for her resignation does'nt"seem" to far fetched. But what's put out there for the public ears and eyes…… we will never know the truth and lies imo.
Come on man, you know very well she didn't resign just because she didn't have the right qualifications. That's the biggest load of hogwash i have ever heard. You poke your nose too deep into business you're not supposed to you will end up getting an ultimatum.
I understand your reply back, but i still dont understand, unless the cornor has been trying to change what she said about alcohol posioning and talking to the media about her death. Or maybe this is just one lone example of her being "allowed" to resign because after all, so many people face a suspicious death for knowing to much. It's just the fact that this unknown low profile professional was allowed to just walk away well and alive because she knew something. Now that seems strange.
The knowledge gained was a liability so they discredit her in terms of forcing a resignation. Killing someone is probably the final effort to silence, since it comes with the most risk in terms of outsiders snooping for more truth. If the coroner were to speak up now, her credibility is in serious question. This is less messy.
dude are you seriously that dense? it does take rocket science to connect the dots and realize that there's a lot of sick messed up stuff that goes on behind the scenes that we the people are are not even aware of. It shouldn't take much to realize that her resignation was done to cover up a much larger conspiracy.
Ms Winehouse even has a baccus type diety name. oh the irony.
Indeed!!!
The irony is not lost on me.
Amy Winehouse is a good example of what happens when you try to do your own thing and go against the Illuminati. THEY WILL KILL YOU!
So, it just makes sense to follow our great overlords and surrender to their wisdom. Agreed?
Okay, now talk amoungst yourselves.
KILLUMINATI
Well that's odd to say the least..
Well surprise, surprise! Of course this shouldn't be a surprise. I am so tired of when a certain type of celebrity dies it is always because of a drug, alcohol, prescripton drug overdose, or suicide. It has become so predictable and redundant. More of these type of celebrities deaths probably deserve a second/third cronner's opinion or at least an extended investigation into what "really happended". But that just goes to show how disposable they really are. A celebrities untimely death is usually someones big payday because of the curiosity of how they performed or what they said or acted like during their last performance or movie role, its like they are worth more dead than alive. I will close with this………. in the times we are living we should not believe most of what we hear and very little of what we see.
+1
I agree with you totally. +10:-)
I.e. Don Cornelius
I agree wholeheartedly. I couldn't believe how many people (including religious fanatics) were trying to justify the sketchy details surrounding her death by bringing up her lifestyle. Honestly I LOVED amy's music. I've said it countless times and regardless of what drugs she was on, she was much more talented than some of the biggest names in mainstream music today. She was still a person and she should be treated as such, not ridiculed.
And how much sense did it make to say that she died from ACCIDENTAL alcohol poisoning when she had NO DRUGS IN HER SYSTEM… And she hadn't had a drop of alcohol in months due to her rehab.
Gah I'm gonna go listen to "Wake Up Alone" and cry my eyes out.
something smells fishy.
Ditto and as usual
We all know her death was merely a sacrifice, new stars will rise, take her place and then be sacrificed etc…
We should instead focus more on the illuminati as who/what they are, how they think etc, f,ex study fritz springmeier books/ interviews so we learn more about our enemy instead of learning what we already know they are capable of. I'm not critizicing VG, it's just that we must learn more, things we don't know about them, in order to defeat them.
Anyways, keep up the good work and remember folks: "Stand upright, speak thy thoughts, declare The truth thou hast, that all may share; Be bold, proclaim it everywhere: They only live who dare."
- Voltaire
Ps: Remember stay vigilant so we won't succumb to their lies. Remember to always criticize everything you hear/read in order to not end up like an ignorant being. Please don't remove this comment aswell.
‘I do not want to die… I have not achieved a lot of the things I wanted.’ :/ Poor Amy.
I meant coroner's opinion.
why is it that some stars get sacrificed…but some dont and go on to be paid millions.
like Madonna…how come she made it?
and is it only pop stars like brittney…how about country stars like taylor swift?
back in the day loretta lynn made it huge and also johnny cash.
were they part of how it is today
because supposedly no one can make it on their own anymore.
I also have the same question. Why is it that some celebrities like Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt, or George Clooney are still out there doing fine? They have been around for a while just as many celebrities who lived to be of old age and passed away lived. Why keep some and not others assuming the sacrifices are true?
Because some of these so called "celebrities" get with their program and some do not.
because they're still worth more to the industry alive than dead. Once your back catalogue is clearly woth more than future eqrnings and you're 'enigmatic' character remains a selling point (rather than a potential liability if you keep stuffing up) death becomes an excellent career move … you can't have a wayward star undoing all that hard work, trashing their own carefully crafted character … It's not like they 'own' their lives themselves…
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The strongest blood lines too "Blue Blood" will not be sacrificed. Take a look at the Queens/ Bush family tree, Madonna, Pitt, …… etc, mostly all "A" list so-called stars are related to each other. I feel the next victim to be sacrificed will be Demi Moore she has already "tweeted" a photo of herself dead – and rushed to hospital from "laughing gas"??? …… The twisted clues are all there.
Anybody else noticing the FEAR campaign presented too us by British newspapers regarding 2012 Games, the clues again always start the same….. more terrorists and their so-called plots discovered these stories are designed to start the process of blame before the false flag event happens.
God Bless
Amy Winehouse? you mean Lady Gaga?
Winehouse was the Beta test, Gaga pulled in more Grammys, let's go with her………
http://wellaware1.com/gaga/gagafinal.jpg
Seems like we keep going further and further down the "rabbi(t) hole to find the truth regardless of how much poo we are covered in each time we come out. Now they have us chasing coroners stories because THEY like to watch us run in circles. Who are THEY you ask? The same people who are allowing this country to slide into this debaucherous pit.
You.
Stop
Look
Listen
You may just hear yourself telling you to get off the F$%#&*@ merry go round.
i think the music industry started to really change in the 60's after they realized what they could do with people like elvis and the beatles. i think people like madonna and britney outlast others because of their willingness to go along with it. madonna seems like pure evil to me and poor britney got involved so young, too young to fight it. i think the ones that get sacrificed are people trying to reverse the damage they've done or they're trying to wake people up. i've read numerous accounts from locals that knew amy and they all said she was clean and sober and doing better than ever. she wasn't doing the destructive things they wanted and she was taking charge of her life and probably career. same thing with michael jackson, so sad what happened to him. bill hicks even. i doubt that guy got such aggressive cancer naturally and just died, so young. cheers to being a nobody!
The sacrifice of Amy winehouse (excellent reference to Bacchus , God of Wine and Serpent Diety…..by edubble) is a form of homeopathic magic ( Read "The Golden Bough" by Sir James Frazer).The sacrifice of the young is symbolic of the sacrifice of the wine loving,sexual,ever young Bacchus/Adonis/Dionysus.It is in line with the Talmudic and Babylonian worship of the Serpent Diety through Sacrifice of the youth who resembles the Diety in perfection,talent,innocence,intelligence.
Evita talked about how Bill Hicks got pancreatic cancer far too early…..I think that is an excellent Observation , considering Bill Hicks was far too intelligent for his age,made references to the "Satan" in his views on corporate America and above all exposed the Wacko Texas Fire Sacrfice of the branch dravidians and the CIA mind Controlled David Koresh.He even drove up to Waco and filmed it…please see YouTube for that.Pancreas is exceptionally susceptible to adeno viruses…and even though you may have cancer,when you get chemotherapy and nuclear therapy (i have replaced radiotherapy with nuclear therapy as I know that the word radiotherapy is a neologism as there are no radio waves employed in radiotherapy……only nuclear waves).There was no way Bill Hicks could have survived chemo and nucleartherapy….that is more than enough to kill.
In pagan Arabia, they used to bury young women and especially young girls alive in the foundation stones of pillars and buildings.The child was led into the hollow of the wall, given toys to play with, while the priests chanted to Baal and covered the cavity with stones, bricks and plaster.The sacrifice of the young , by the old …..either it be wars, occult sacrifice, Jihad…..is all the same …..purification through blood, sacrifice and killing of the young.Yahweh,Shiva,Allah,The Serpent , Baal rejoices with the smell of blood, the clank of swords and the cries of the suffering ones.This Demiurge wants people to breed,have differences which lead to conflict and then blood bathing wars.
Pain opens dimensions of the human mind…which leads to a different state of union with the Diety.The endorphins and natural opioids of the brain coupled with adrenaline …do lead to transcendental experiences.Pain and blood teach…….all mystery schools employ a lot of pain to teach the neophyte to "see".So anyone desiring to be a Freemason…..get ready for a lot of beating ,hanging and humiliation…before you see the light .(sigh!)
Aryten Senna, the great Brazilian driver, Kurt Cobain,James dean and even Jackass Ryan Dunn (summer solstice day sacrifice)were all lead the same way….as they all encompassed brilliance in their field, had a fiery nature and represented some aspect of the Serpentine Deity .
The truth is that all mystery schools and all esoteric dimensions of main stream religions all worship the same lord……The Serpent.Hard to believe….but it's true.Either it be Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buuddism, Kabbala.They lie to you by telling you it's all sun and moon worship…for sun and moon are the emblems of the Serpent……the ruler of this world.The lord of Sacrifice….the snake.I would recommend all to read the book "rivers of life" by Maj Gen James George Roche Forlong as it is the greatest treasure trove of all mystery religions and especially serpent worship.Another great book to read would be "a new system" by the 18th century great antiquarian researcher Dr Jacob Bryant.
Yahweh ….the serpent was also called Lord of the Thorn.The worship of the the thorn or nail is symbolic of the serpentine Fang.Jesus was "nailed " to the cross…..a form of human sacrifice .Jesus was the serpent himself as per the Gnostics.
The Lord of dualism…..the serpent.
There was a quotation Stanley Kubrick really liked and it goes like
""A paranoid-schizophrenic is a guy who just found out what’s going on,”
Yosan, very enlightening information to consider.
I do not consider myself religious or spiritual, I do not feel dualism is "the way" either. In observing nature, I see constant blend, constant unity of so many pieces and parts. Science proves God exists, the information in nature proves a creative intelligence that fuels evolution…and we are one in an instant and in never ending life times. Fact, logic and reason lead me to see this. It is funny how atheists intake the same information as I and feel they were born into a life alone.
@Yosan, I take the serpent lord to be Satan? Don't want to get into labels… but Yahweh, Allah, Jesus Christ… there is no evidence in any of the historically proven authentic scripture that implies they ever wanted the blood of the innocent. But yes, in every age and every faith, some people have taken the path of Satan instead of God, become deluded, and used the various names of God for their filth. More than once, the Quran absolutely rebukes the act of child infanticide. I'm quite sure the other scriptures do so as well… if there's any hint of such horrendous sacrifices, it originates from the misguided deviant slaves of Satan, but never from God.
But then, maybe I just completely missed your point…
madonna actually seems nice. i mean obviously thats only her public image but yeah she doesn't seem evil if anything she seems the most caring and philanthropic out of any other celebrities. i don't know if she's part of all this…it just doesn't seem like it i mean she has kids and a family and she's like 50
Right on Evita. The Beatles were actually just a beta-test for this type of mass programming and they successfully reached their goal. Since then, most music stars have been controlled by this Illuminati garbage and pushing their agendas through entertainment.
@ Tyler : Madonna is a huge part of it. If you look at her live concerts, she has prayed to Satan in some of them…and I think I heard somewhere she is a high priestess of the occult. She does all kinds of cult-type symbolism. So it fits in. She is famous and now stars like Lady Gaga are following her example and no doubt she will pull through because she is a perfect little puppet to these people and I don't think she minds it too much. Appearances can be deceitful. The ones who wake up and/or try to speak out are the ones who are taken out.
Their are nt sacrificd. They die, just like evry1 else. When normal people die, its coz its their time. When celebs die, the are sacrificed? To me it sounds like people just want 2 grasp at straws, making a false reality 4 themselvs. HOW PATHETIC.
Boy are you deceived. You seem to be new to this website. VC puts out very well documented stuff. They are not conspiracy theories, they are facts. You should click the link "Educate Yourself" on the top of this site and learn of the kind of world we live in. Wake up man.
No, not everything is a conspiracy. Yes, some(most) people just die. But some things ARE questionable. Some things DO go beyond the "official" story. Do you believe that everything is exactly the way it seems? No lies? We have an honest media? Honest government? Why are you even here on this site? C'mon, now. Maybe there is more to the death of Amy Winehouse than reaches the mainstream public, maybe not. Doesn't matter. The point is, the world is FULL of deceit, especially where money and power are concerned. How pathetic it is to be on this site at all if you don't believe in the world outside of your blinders. Instead of ridiculing, insulting, and scoffing at people, why don't you try to offer them some of your supreme knowledge. Something more than a few "this isn't true" lines. No, you don't want to DO any work, just drop a few lines letting people know how "pathetic" they are for coloring outside the lines. Open your mind or quit visiting sites that offer that kind of assistance.
No one has a "time to die" Youre not born into this world with a death date
Yes, we all have an appointed time to die and only the Lord Almighty knows the exact time, place and manner of our death. We also are not born until it is his will for us to be here.
Amy was most likely sacrificed for the newest Illuminati marionette Adele.
WHAT Adele?? Okay, she's famous I guess and does good music……thats a shame…
I was thinking Lana del ray..
The story indicated the following –
But private GP Christina Romete, who saw the singer hours before her death, said she did not believe Miss Winehouse had deliberately drunk herself to death.
She said she had told her: ‘I do not want to die… I have not achieved a lot of the things I wanted.’
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Why would Amy just happen to blurt out ‘I do not want to die…' just hours before she was found dead??
What did she know that would make her say that to someone?
Initial reports said that she had NOT been drinking…even that perhaps she was going through withdrawals, then they say it was alcohol poisoning. 3 empty vodka bottles 'planted' at the scene perhaps….?
Thank you vigilant citizen for all your research and good articles, your website helped me a lot!!
a friend of mine had an initiative to help others wake up:
from Piet Baars:
I made it a sport to post youtube videos that can wake people up on famous artists Facebook pages because you can reach a lot of people there. Now I have a new experiment that is I have changed the name of a youtube video to appeal to the sleepy masses… will you help me spamm it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMgUyzr0CIM — Justin Bieber ft. Lady Gaga – values
Am I the only person who is wondering WTF does being a barrister (lawyer, attorney) have to do with being a Coroner?? To most of us, in most countries, being a Coroner means being a Medical DOCTOR, or at the very least, a qualified Medical Examiner with significant training and experience. So, it would appear anyway….right?
Sure, some experience with expert testimony in homicides, rules of evidence and court procedures would be important, but I don't recall ever hearing that Coroners have any requirements to be attorneys, for any length of time, much less 5 YEARS like this article is claiming as the reason this person had to "resign" from her position.
Well, I just learned a few things that I'm willing to bet a lot of people may not know, and it's a little weird, to say the least. Keep in mind that this is from the United States, but here goes…
What is the difference between a Medical Examiner and Coroner?
A coroner is an ELECTED official. Coroners are usually not required to be doctors, but the requirements depend on the laws governing the jurisdiction. Usually coroners come from law enforcement or funeral home backgrounds, but they may also be doctors who have run for the office of coroner.
Coroners may hold public inquests to determine the cause and manner of death. They may have a doctor examine the body and report their findings at the inquest. Usually coroners have some law enforcement or legal powers, such as subpoena powers, but it varies depending on the laws in their jurisdiction. Medical examiners are usually not a part of law enforcement. Generally medical examiners are in agencies separate from law enforcement and the criminal justice system to preserve their objectivity.
In contrast…
A medical examiner is always a medical doctor, usually a forensic pathologist who has received training in this specialty. A medical examiner certifies a death based on his or her expert opinion following an investigation and medical examination or an autopsy of the decedent. A medical examiner also completes a report to document and support his or her findings. Most medical examiners are appointed to their positions.
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So, something is very wrong with this picture; i.e., this "Coroner" found something that wasn't meant to be found, or she simply never was qualified to be in this position and her resignation serves the purpose VC mentioned above – to create even more confusion about the entire situation, blur the view of anyone wanting a closer look and to cast doubt on the credibility of those who might question the pathology reports and medical analysis that resulted from the original autopsy. It kind of makes a person wonder if there even was one, doesn't it?
There sure are a lot of mysterious and odd circumstances involved here, considering their overly simplistic cover story that Amy Winehouse was "just another junkie who finally did herself in". Why go to so much effort to twist this story around and around if it is really that simple??
Kinda makes ya wonder if her brain has also "gone missing" now, too – just like JFK's did.
And despite the fact that Kurt Cobain was a well-known heroin addict, his death was also very suspicious – in that a far more than lethal dose of heroin was found in his system, and so it would have been all but impossible for him to even pick up another syringe, much less pick up a shotgun, steady it and fire it at his own skull.
When "stars" die, for whatever reason, their record sales increase…period. There's some more food for thought.
RIP, all those who have died at the bloody, evil hands of the global ruling elite – whether they are "celebrities" or not, they are martyrs to various degrees, and deserve our prayers.
Food for thought
I think she resigned because as many people said she had a choice: "lie or die". I feel sorry for the next coroner who will have to lie or die as well.
And another one:
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/leslie-carter-overdosed…
I don't know if I feel pity or revolted for these people, I guess both feelings, 'cos they do introduce themselves in this kind of life, they expose themselves into this and I don't see myself in these kind of life and be manipulated by satan's workers, before they attempt anything that can change drastically my personality or moral, they'll have to kiss my AS*.
Peace
I've said it already but this time I'm gonna say it in my angry font
HOW TF DOES SOMEONE (ESPECIALLY A RECOVERING DRUG/ALCOHOL ADDICT) DIE FROM ACCIDENTAL ALCOHOL POISONING WHEN NO DRUGS WERE FOUND IN THEIR SYSTEM AND THEY REPORTEDLY HADN'T HAD SO MUCH AS A DROP OF ALCOHOL IN MONTHS???
BTW Amy looks absolutely GORGEOUS in that picture.
Well u can't be to sure about many things…. anything is possible- or not!!
@anony
Dear Sir/Ma'am
Yahweh (lord of fire, Vulcan Lord, lord of thorny bush, lord of thorn) was worshipped in the form of a golden serpent in the temple of Solomon and was worshipped in the form of a golden Bull Apis or a suckling calf.
The Kaaba of Arabia was made by the shimonites from judea and was a black cube, also called Saturn , Venus genitrix .Every year human sacrifices were carried out in pagan Arabia at the festival of Venus in which naked men and women used to circle around it.The worship was concluded with sacrifice, just like nowadays when the Haj ends with the obligatory sacrifice of the goat.the word Kaaba….comes from ca-Ab-ir…which means " of the serpent".
The Christos..or the anointed one was worshipped in the form of a serpent, and. These serpent cults I.e, Essenes,nassaenes, Ophites all worshipped Jesus in the form of a snake and were part of the gnostic christology spectra.All of them were weeded out culminating in the Albigensian crusade.Their remnants incorporated themselves into the Knights Templar, knights hospitalars who exist today as the guilds of freemasonry,knights of Malta and the Rosicrucians.
John 3:14
"Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up."
I would advise you to read the following books:
1.The Good and Evil Serpent: How a Universal Symbol Became Christianized (The Anchor Yale Bible Reference Library)
James H. Charlesworth
2. The cult of the serpent: an interdisciplinary survey of its manifestations and origins
Balaji mundkur
3.The worship of baalim in Israel
Dr H Oort
4.The thorn tree, being a history of thorn worship of the twelve tribes of Israel
Theta pseudonym
5.The worship of the serpent
Rev john Bathurst deane
6.The Encircled Serpent a Study of Serpent Symbolism in All Countries and Ages
M. Oldfield Howey
Please also read the rivers of life by JGR Forlong and the New system by Jacob Bryant as mentioned In my earlier post.
Majority of these books are vintage and readily available on   ;www.archive.org.
All roads lead to the serpent, all religions at their very black core are in essence serpent worships.The serpent , Osir, Azhar, shiv, Christos,aleim is the one and same.The university of Norway found the most ancient serpent temple in Botswana and radio dated it to 75,000 years .
Man has been worshipping directly or indirectly the serpent for millennia .I know it's hard to believe but is true.
This worship requires sacrifice,caves, dark places ,musical beat or notes in the form of chants,incense,revolutions,pain,homeopathic and sypmathetic magic, altars,prostitutes, priests and hierophants, mountains , high places or groves and involves astrotheology and architectural mathematics.
Please do watch the following films to get a picture of this above mentioned worship
1.Eyes wide shut by Stanley Kubrick
2.The ninth gate starring Johnny depp
3.Rosemary's baby
This formula fits all mystery schools and esoteric arts, either it be shiva lingum worship, baal
Worship, Catholicism, sufism, Kabaala……it's all the same.All worship of the serpent.
Although know, the major monotheistic religions are very different from their esoteric core and denounce many of the ancient practices , their core, the pillars of their foundations are all seeped in ancient antiquarian religions which are still followed by the EL -ites, as it has always been and will always be.
I hope this suffices.
It's simple do u believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God?
Uuuummm….I'm a christian and I do NOT worship a serpent. That must be the Gnostic view of christianity, where the whole thing is totally flipped around……Satan is the serpent & Jesus Christ is my LORD.
@ the truth
Read Alexander hislops " the two babylons".
If i read this book it still won't change the fact that i do believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. I would rather die believing this than not believe. I have read, and read and read and sometimes my mind wandered, but because i have faith in God and his word, i chose to recognize that the holy spirit inspired bible is more accurate than any other book. Anything is possible to God so he has the all knowing power to send his word through the bible as his instructions to his children and have the same context fot 1000's of years. Imo any other books, pieces of literature, or good reads, are just that. Since we all have to die one day, do u think every one in the whole wide world over million of years will just stay underground and dead? I can always read that book u suggested but it has to connect with what i already believe and have faith in if not it could lead me astray.
What a close minded person you are. You totally miss what he is trying to suggest…
To refuse to read anything other than the Bible shows me how shaky your own belief in your religion is. Honestly, if you have a solid foundation of belief in Christ as your personal savior, you could read all of the books he suggests and watch the films he suggests without fear.
What he is trying to say is…the roots of all religion are based on serpent worship. I might add to that, sun worship.
Light/Dark.
If you truly know there is only unity…no dualism…then you have no fear and can seek knowledge objectively and take it into consideration. Sorry to say…you sound ignorant and afraid. I hope your God shows you a path away from all that soon
@ face in the crowd and muffin…..
If you could please reread my post…. i alluded to if i did read this book, the content of the book may not even interest me enough to read it which is why i wrote " if i read this book". I have read countless books like this and after a while they seem to say and mean the same thing. I also wrote that i have "read, and read, and read" and let my mind wander And because i AM Not close minded, i have considered other truths, and possibilities that are different from my beliefs
I do not fear reading or watching anything, in fact i love comparing what i think i know about God, Jesus, and the bible to other books/movies. But i am confident enough to say that i believe that the holy bible was inspired by the holy spirit as our guide to God's intentions for his children. Trust me, i am extremley open minded, and there is nothing wrong with knowledge apart from the bible, (this is what seeking him out is all about) so no i am not ignorant, fearful, close minded or shaky in my faith. I have a collection of other wordly, afterlife, & spiritual books i have read over the
years.
When you read news stories like this you realise that all your suspicions have been justified.
So now we know that she definitely died under mysterious circumstances
To me it always goes back in my mind to her neighbor who was awakened by loud screams and weird drumming noises in the early hours (around 2:30-3:00am) of the day of her death. He said that it was usually quiet at her house and it was unusual to hear these screams and noises. The sounds and screaming stopped and he waited to hear if it was going to continue, if he had heard anything else then he was going to call the police. It was just silent after that. That is why I have always been suspicious of her death. It way definately out of the ordinary according to her neighbor. Poor Amy.
And Jesus was and is definately NOT the serpent.
…not my Jesus either
Amy was not the first nor the last one to die under mysterious circumstances, check this site
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/47980104.htm…
it's an interesting list!!
so now they are going to just forget about the whole investigation and focus on the so call "incompetent" lawyer rather than keep the investigation going … ah and people are just gonna buy it what a happy ending eh?
@ the truth and Sarah
Dear Madam/Sir
I apologize for disturbing your sensibilities…..but I press on for finding the truth, no matter how odd it may sound or strange it may seem.Civilization is the cultural heritage of man and all men are the same.
Carl Gustov Jung talked about the "Apollo Dionysian dialect".
Apollo The Sun god , all respecting and great, helper of man The morning sun
And dionysis the moon god, god of mirth, sex, sacrifice, wine.
In his "seven sermons to the dead" Jung postulated the " conjunction oppositeorum "
The double headed Greek God Janus….the Good and the bad.
The serpent is both Apollo and dionysis
The serpent is both Jesus and lucifer
The black and white, the good and bad, the sacrificed one and the sacrificer,the god of good and the lord of evil.Both male and female, both good and evil.
These attributes of the deity were represented best in the serpent, which both healed and killed.
The cult of Asclepius, the cult of mitra, the cult of hygiea, Isis, Osiris were all serpent cults.
The serpent symbolizes both good and evil
It is the tree that shades and the fruit that poisons…
We tend to believe in the texts of the ancient books quite narratively ….
Our ancestors on purpose made allegory and riddles in the ancient texts so that the wise may strive to find the truth.
Man has been sacrificing to this deity since time immemorial….Under different pretexts..
@ Yosan
What you say in relation to religion i find very interesting.
The serpent has indeed been pivotal to all world religions, those that are mainstream and those that are not. That the serpent has the power to 'heal or to harm' (ie. Imhotep/Hippocrates) is also I feel quite key to understanding the duality of God and Satan. The 'devil' is a 'fallen angel' afterall so can be 'bound or loosed' by God. The importance of this has been lost as we become more and more removed from the original divine teachings. I think we have forgotten how to understand the symbolism of things and end up taking things too literally.
To clarify, I was referring to the Imhoptep/Hippocratic oath and medicine being able to heal or harm!
I do understand your point and have read a lot of what u read so thats why i stand firm in my faith. I'm glad you are being sensitive & positive to my point of view. But honestly i think this is a time for me to spread this message instead of keeping it to myself. It seems no one wants to believe any more. One day the truth will be revealed to us all but by then it will be too late for those who didn't believe and live by faith.
yosan, you know nothing that's whay you talks like satan.
@ rosebat
Sir!
The more I know, the more I know my ignorance.
Yes I am ignorant as you kindly suggested.
The lord of death , serves a purpose.
Victor Hugo (grandmaster of the priory de Sion) said
"Praised be thy providence , which has given a doll to the child,the child to the woman, the woman to the man and the man to the devil to play with"
Celtic Druids by Godfrey Higgins
The origin of all worship. Charles Francois dupuis
The Chaldean account of genesis by George smith
The Gnostics and their remains c.w.king
The origin of pagan idolatry by George Stanley faber
The serpent symbol and the worship of reciprocal symbols by Ephraim George square
Nagas: the ancient rulers of India dr naval viyogi
The Ghebers of Hebron. By Samuel fales Dunlop
The religion of the Semites William Robertson smith
These books are the most powerful and strangest writings I have ever read and have enhanced and improved my understanding of ancient man, the evolution of religions and above all the serpent worship which is the basis of all religious experience.
Other than the the book of nagas, all the above mentioned books are on average 150 -200 years old books written at the height of Victorian antiquary renaissance by the most learned men of their time.All religions,worships resolve and condense into one….the pythosolarphallic cults.
Worship of the sol-ar serpent.
Habaal,adad,abaddon,baal,alilat,el,cham,
Please do read"the witch cult of western europe" and "the god of the witches "by the egyptologist Margaret Murray who died in 1963.It was the same ophidian , horned God which they worshipped and appeased through child sacrifice, a practice that runs even today.
You know, I really feel sorry for you. It seems like you have spent a great deal of time trying to find the 'truth,' when in fact you just got lost in an evil belief. How can you say that great religions like Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all worshipping the 'serpent.' These religions have been SENT down by God to FIGHT against these pagan religions. May God show you the right path.
The jist of all my posts is this;
The masses indulge in a collection of diluted, segerated,hazy religions which deal with only certain attributes of the God….like the solar christos and the islamic venus or the fire yahweh.It is for the profane and the faint of heart.It promotes ethnocentrism,cultural,racial superiority and breeds obstinacy.These spectra of religions are for all and all that is required is faith.They give the adherent one side of the picture and one side of the coin.There is no intermingling,intercalating,extrapolation ….you take the word as it is.
The El-ites indulge in a very concentrated,concrete and a wholesome holistic understanding of the pantheon of all ages, coalesced into a very deep understanding of the one God.It is for the illuminated and strong at heart.This religion encompass all religions,creeds,myths and promotes brotherhoods and sisterhoods with rites of passage and blood curdling oaths.This spectra is not for all and all that is required is the utmost obedience,pain and above all sacrifice.These cults show both sides of the picture….the black and the white.the beautiful and the terrible.
Both worship the same God.All worship coalesce Into the same God.
God is Fear and Love at the same time
The God is one
The God is The SERPENT.
Yosan, from your conclusions its quite clear that despite all of the many books you claim to have read, you haven't read the Holy Bible. Now, you've never claimed to have read it, thus your conclusions aren't surprising to me.
Take the time to read it. Actually, you can just read the New Testament for starters. Or if that's too long of a read, just skip to the Books attributed to the apostle Paul to begin with. Google that if you don't know.
If you're searching for Truth, then read the above with a sincere desire to have it revealed to you. It's clear that the Enemy has your mind.
another make-or-break investigation that might truly reveal or forever conceal what really happened.
to the writers of this site: can I please submit an interpretation of one of Jessie J's newest music videos, "Domino" or please make a report about it.
I want to see if my interpretations are accurate. Thanks a lot.
Why not make a video breaking it down then post it to utube? I will watch and send to friends.
@Yosan,
Have you confirmed that these have historical validity, or are just theories? I am an avid reader on comparative religions and what you're referring to appears very much to be the designs of Satan the serpent himself. He's the one who's been confusing masses for millennia, with his band of Jinns, across religions. I've been to the Kabah in Arabia myself, I've studied not just the "official version" of history in religious studies but the methodology of deriving what is historically authentic and what is not, as well as reading on similar aspects in Christian history. The things you are saying appear to be the mere conjecture of arm-chair philosophers who draw analogies and connections from a broad range of events without true confirmed evidence for what they think, and are either biased in their anti-religion stance or else simply lacking in access to authentic information. We could all draw random conclusions out of anything. It doesn't make them true. Here is what the Quran, (which has exactly one confirmed version, however far back you go in authentically agreed upon history, which is agreed upon by objective historians, both muslim and non-muslim), here's what the Quran has to say about King Solomon (peace be upon him):
"They followed the incantations that the devils used against the kingdom of Solomon. ***Solomon did not hide the truth but the devils did***. They taught magic to the people and whatever was revealed to the two angels, Harut and Marut, in Babylon. The two angels did not teach anything to anyone without saying, "Our case is a temptation for the people, so do not hide the truth." People learned something from the two angels that could cause discord between a man and his wife… In fact, the (people) learned things that would harm them and render them no benefit. They knew very well that one who engaged in witchcraft would have no reward in the life hereafter. Would that they had known that they had sold their souls for that which is vile! " (2:102)
As for racism and "no mingling", here is what the Quran has to say:
"AND TELL My servants that they should speak in the most kindly manner [unto those who do not share their beliefs]: verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men – for, verily, Satan is man's open enemy!" (17:53)
Here is what it says about Christians:
"…Thou wilt surely find that, of all people, they who say, "Behold, we are Christians," come closest in affection…: this is so because there are priests and monks among them, and because these are not given to arrogance. (5:82)"
And here's what it says about Jews:
"…among the followers of earlier revelation there are upright people, who recite God's messages throughout the night, and prostrate themselves [before Him]. They believe in God and the Last Day, and enjoin the doing of what is right and forbid the doing of what is wrong, and vie with one another in doing good works: and these are among the righteous. And whatever good they do, they shall never be denied the reward thereof: for, God has full knowledge of those who are conscious of Him. (3:113-115)"
And here's what it has to say about people assuming they're better than others:
"..He is fully aware of you when He brings you into being out of dust, and when you are still hidden in your mothers’ wombs: so do not claim of purity for yourselves – [for] He knows best as to who is conscious of Him." (53:32)
I recommend that you review the validity of your sources of information.
As the Quran says (and I repeat, I do not quote from it out of partiality but simply because it is reliable in terms of its authenticity):
"..behold – conjecture can never be a substitute for truth." (10:36)
The best place to learn what religions are teaching is to read the religious scriptures and histories of those religions themselves, rather than the concocted stories of people who are barely aware of what they're talking about.
There has always been God to worship, and then there is Satan who deludes us into worshiping himself, claiming evil things about God, out of his jealousy that God created the human as a better creation than Satan himself. There are two roads we can take – either the worship of Satan – who appears to be the true inspirer of the theories you are quoting, or the worship of God, Who told us in unequivocal terms what Satan's plans are:
"O children of Adam! Do not allow Satan to seduce you in the same way as he caused your ancestors to be driven out of the Garden… Verily, he and his tribe are lying in wait for you where you cannot perceive them!" (7:27)
"O YOU who have attained to faith! Intoxicants, and games of chance, and idolatrous practices, and the divining of the future are but a loathsome evil of Satan's doing:' shun it, then, so that you might attain to a happy state! By means of intoxicants and games of chance Satan seeks only to sow enmity and hatred among you, and to turn you away from the remembrance of God and from prayer. Will you not, then, desist?'" (5:90-91)
"…In His stead, they invoke only lifeless symbols – thus invoking none but a rebellious Satan whom God has rejected for having said, "Verily, of Thy servants I shall most certainly take my due share, and shall lead them astray, and fill them with vain desires; and I shall command them… and they will corrupt God's creation!" But all who take Satan rather than God for their master do indeed, most clearly, lose all: he (Satan) holds out promises to them, and fills them with vain desires: yet whatever Satan promises them is but meant to delude the mind. (4:117-119)
"…Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men – for, verily, Satan is man's open enemy!" (17:53)
I could go on and on and on and on and on, but I hope I've illustrated the point. The claims from these books rely on outward appearances but do not have truth to back up their conclusions. Yes, they do refer to some things that have been apparently true at some points in history, but the *conclusions* they've drawn out of those patterns are erroneous and contradictory to the evidence found in the religions they speak about.
By the way, you might be interested in what the Quran says about the worship of the cow/bull/Golden Calf, you'll find it in the second chapter, called "The Cow", in verses 67 to 75. And about Satan and the creation of man from verses 30 to 39, same chapter.
Peace!
"Yosan says:
February 2, 2012 at 7:42 pm"
Quit spreading LIES about the Christian God Yahweh. I see you promote some garbage book, I won't even bother to Google it.
You either display an obvious lack of knowledge of the Bible, or, which I assume this is rather true, are a part of the illuminati's minions to try and BLACKEN Yahweh's good name.
Matthew 23:33
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Luke 10:19
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
The "Don't tread on me" flag is illuminati puke, the same image appears on the front of Metallica's black album and it contains a song about it, too.
Serpents and scorpions are spiritual beings, God (Yahweh) gives us power to tread on them and gives us power over ALL of the enemy.
The number of people on the internet twisting Yahweh's name into something it isn't is increasing, largely on satanist sites (which always condemn God – don't believe for a minute they don't believe in Satan even if they say they don't, it's another lie after lie after lie!) but also with occultists who all put down Yahweh's name.
Yahweh's name (and Christ Jesus) has REAL and LASTING POWER, their fake gods do not, and precious Jesus Christ's holy name is misused in sitcoms, movies, mass media, also God, the Christian/Jewish God is said in almost anything, how many times can you count on TV and movies where they say, "god" without any faith backed meaning? Why aren't they saying, "Oh Buddha!" instead of Christ's name? It's almost everywhere! How many shows make fun of Biblical themes but never touch other religions, or if they do, they don't blast them with lies/parody as much as they do the Bible.
Remember, fellow Christians and Jews, God gives us ALL power over the enemy.
You may have noticed an increase in anti-Christian, anti-Jewish media and viewpoints, this will only increase as the days grow nearer towards the end.
Words have REAL POWER, praise Yahweh, Christ Jesus, Holy Spirit, for ever. The enemies of Yahweh tremble inside because of His power, and rather than rightly worship and praise Yahweh's name, they delude themselves as the Bible says will come to pass, with false doctrines and ears tickled by seducing evil spirits and turn to mocking and lies about Yahweh to try and lead others astray.
You have free will, never leave Yahweh's protection – for His way is peace! His peace He shall give to you, and no other false god will give you peace, only chaos and contempt for truth.
Don't fear, but rather rebuke evil in Christ/Yahweh's Holy names. Remember, the devil is not an equal to God, just a stupid fallen angel, don't fear a created being who decided to be a fool, but, rather, as The Bible tells us:
"Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus." Philippians 4:6-7
"God is our refuge and strength, an ever-present help in trouble.
Therefore we will not fear, though the earth give way and the mountains fall into the heart of the sea" Psalm 46:1-2
"Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations,
I will be exalted in the earth." The LORD Almighty is with us; the God of Jacob is our fortress." Psalm 46:10-11
"Don’t worry about the wicked or envy those who do wrong." Psalm 37:1
"For you have made the LORD,my refuge, Even the Most High, your dwelling place. No evil will befall you, Nor will any plague come near your tent. For He will give His angels charge concerning you, To guard you in all your ways." Psalm 91:9-11
Remember, do not fear a foolish fallen angel nor his minions on Earth who spread his lies.
Love and worship Yahweh, who has REAL POWER and REAL LOVE for YOU! There was only one serpent in the garden, and it has no power over us when we are on team Yahweh.
Great comment.
That was so wonderfully put!!! A lot of souls are really lost and need to come to the truth before its eternally to late. It is rare to find people who will confess by mouth and truly believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is the King of Kings, our redeeming Savior and this is what having faith is all about, Believing inspite of and because of his promise to live in eternity with him if you believe and confess that you believe. I am happy right now that i can just tell the truth. BTW…… what does this have to do with Amy Winehouse, the illuminati, or celebrities? We all will stand the same judgement one day and every knee shall bow at the Glory of God. No matter who you are or how much you know about other things. This is the faith, the belief we must have and be ready when he returns again. Although I have not provided biblical refrences here, I was just speaking from my heart.,and even if I had you know to still search for yourself (free will). And so totally not judging any counter opinions or, opposing prospectives!!
@Yosan,
I replied above. Just wanted to make one more point. There are freaks in every religion, in every age, every place, every "ism". While they may be on to something, their existence does not mean the religion itself asks for crazy sacrifices and mystical practices. Some freaks just like to come in and do their freakish things, make their invalid claims, and continue their practices. There may be some who take a sacrifice or prayer as an implication of some un-Godly twisted theory, but that doesn't mean the religion condoned it. Those people mentioned in the books and videos you refer to might very well be deviants. So as I said earlier, I would recommend you study the all the religions you mentioned internally too, not just externally. Then you'll probably have a fairer idea of what's going on.
@Do you want results,
"It’s almost everywhere! How many shows make fun of Biblical themes but never touch other religions, or if they do, they don’t blast them with lies/parody as much as they do the Bible."
I would like to correct you there. The amount of insanity against the Quran and the personality of the last prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is worse. It pretty much shapes the entire foreign policy of the US government and justifies the murders of hundreds of thousands of innocents all over the world.
However, speaking from internally within the Christian world, yes – you are naturally more sensitive to what you know, than what you don't. Also, the media knows its audience, so the only way to de-sensitize Christians against religion is to do it against the true Messiah Jesus (peace be upon him). I'm pretty sure the mass media does it according to every region – whatever the majority religion is of their audience, they'll mock at it, because Satan's intention is simply to remove any and all perceived forms of God that are held sacred from the hearts of people.
But Muslims who know their religion value all true religions, and are sensitive to both Christianity and Islam and can tell you that in general – the blasphemy that the media vomits and brainwashes the masses against really is worse for Islam.
Just the other day I went online to check out some books – there was a section on religions. I love religion, in general. I wanted to check on a good book on the Bhagvad Gita and especially the Uppanishads of Eastern religions – and I found a bunch of books on the teachings of Hinduism. I browsed around the category of Buddhism, found a bunch of positive books. Browsed around Chrisianity – all familiar stuff. I got to Islam – and Lo and Behold! On the very first page there were all these hate-filled titles. A person wanting some unbiased information on Islam really needs to wade through "Why I am not a Muslim", "Al-Qaeda", "Everlasting Hatred", "Infidel", and a bunch of titles from that lunatic liar, Robert Spencer, "The Complete Idiot's guide to…" (can't remember right now). I was like…wowww!!!! Can't blame the masses for hating Muslims and thinking their Prophet is a monster when this is how they're being brainwashed.
Oh – another example. I came across a Bollywood (Indian movie). The Indians may not worship Allah, or Christ, or Yahweh, but they have Shiva, or Krishna, or Brahma, or whatever other name. (By the way do check on the similarities between Abraham and Brahma!! Very interesting!) So as I was saying, they do worship some Almighty God, to some extent. But the movie had the hero asking his wife – would God mind if I loved you more than Him? And she said no!
Now wasn't it just so important to indoctrinate the masses with that, under the guise of "love".
Mass media all over the world is just trying to extract God from our hearts.
@ anony & @ do you want results for
Dear Sirs/Madams
I am most thankful and appreciative of both of you, to have taken the time and effort to bring forth such intelligent viewpoints.I truly appreciate the effort.
Satan, Samael,Shaitaan,Serpent,The Trickster (Jung archetype) is a necessary illusion.
Team Yahweh and Team Allah ( Good guys) are beneficent,all loving and merciful.They want what's best for mankind …….but then mr trickster comes from nowhere and leads man astray.So let the cheerleaders take out their Pom poms and celebrate the good teams…..yaaaaa!
And let's all boo the bad guy snake……BOOOOOO!
Team Yahweh and team Allah said in chapter 87 , verse 67. " booooo to bad guy and yaaaa yaa to team good guys"
I am sorry I have to bend down to such comical allegories.
But I am wiser than that.
God and satan are the same…
Team Goodness is hiding one side of their face!
Ok….let me do some nitpicking as well.Chapter this and verse that…
Khayrul-Makereen" which correctly translated means "Allah is the greatest of all deceivers." subanallah!
Team yahwehs brutality and love for burnt flesh is legendary.Team Yahweh likes the smell of Mc Cannnites…finger lickin good.Mazaltov!
They are gods of war, gods of fear who have deluded men to fight ,cut and kill.Either the deluded man reaches the pearly gates of saint Peter or the pearly clad hoor waiting for sexual favors in Janaath…….both cases man loses and God wins as they are allegories and illusions with no basis in reality , but based on delusions.
Conflict lies at the base of the human unconscious and ethnocentrism is central to all human populations.God created man to fight or run.Funny!Not!
Now look at both of these good guys….are they really that good..?
Iam not a hollow brain atheist who reads Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens ,sips Starbucks caffe latte and thinks she is the the new Rosseau of her time..
No sir…I believe there is a deity…which is two faced.
A very benovalent and also a very tricky taskmaster with a horrible sense of humor.
A two faced riddler that knows how to get the job done through both love and malice.
God is both good and evil….like the Indian Mahadeva…Shiva.The lord of fire and incidentally also the lord of serpents.
I apologize yet again for coming down to the common denominater of a dumbed down moron, but I see that's what people like.Jesus said this and Jesus said that…
I mentioned the best books on comparative mythologies and ancient worships…yet I am asupposed to be a serpentine illuminatus who sells junk books.
Yaaaaaa! (audience claps!)
The great Voltaire said
" we will leave this world as wicked and as ignorant , as the day we arrived on it"
Product disclaimer:
Attention all user….Yahweh and Allah are the same old babylonian,Akkadian deities repackaged for general use.
@Yosan,
Oh dear, relax! If you're searching the truth then be open-minded.
Anyway you actually are on to something.
Let me elaborate a bit on something (with all due respect to Christians). The following are Islamic beliefs (you are free to reject them by the way, there's no hard feelings or force here!):
- God really is the same, from Hinduism to Buddhism to Judaism to Christianity to Zoroastrianism to Magianism to Islam and most of the others – yes it's always been the same Diety. The names have only been different because people have had different language in different times and places.
- God is NOT Love itself. He is the Creator of love, and of everything else, and He created humanity out of an act of Divine Love – to know Him. There is nothing more beautiful and fulfilling than being in love (I'm sure you've been in it), and then to be requited with that love. Then on top of that, to be requited with the greatest, Divine Love in return, is the ultimate fulfillment of our existence – to experience that joy. So His creation of us was not an act of pointless arrogance, but just for us to experience a beautiful indescribable Love.
- God created a lot of other beings besides humans, and He also created Earth, and He asked a lot of His creatures, according to their will, who would like to be His vicegerents on Earth. Humans wanted to be His vicegerents. He didn't impose life on earth, humans chose it. And to this day, our conscience recognizes Him, that's precisely why we still have a sense of universal morality, and a sense of Perfection, despite the fact that there is NO perfection on earth.
- God also created Satan, and Satan was ranked high in Heaven. But God created humans as the most noble being. Satan got jealous of this, and refused to be civil with Adam, because he wanted that title! For this reason He was taken out of Heaven, because Heaven is perfect, a place for ultimate peace, a place where humanity BELONGS, and not a place for arrogance.
- Satan was so angry and jealous about this that he decided he's taking humanity down with him, so he whispered to Adam and Eve to eat of the forbidden tree. He lied to them that God only forbade them of the fruit because God didn't want them to become immortal or angels. (He always lies. In reality, God doesn't forbid us from anything except what's harmful to us, as a mother forbids a child from playing with fire, the child would only cry because the child doesn't have enough knowledge – but the mother isn't doing anything cruel or arrogant – so there's no contradiction in mercy there. You can realize this, objectively, if you study the laws of Islamic economics, for one example.)
- Adam and Eve ate, and they discovered something which made them felt terrible (which is why God forbade them in the first place). But they realized their mistake and were sorry. This is where Satan and humans differ, and this is one of the reasons that the human is a greater being than Satan. Adam and Eve realized their mistake and were sorry, Satan did not realize his mistake. Both sinned, but one still belongs to Heaven, while the other chose to stubbornly worship his own ego. We don't condemn God for the idea of "being sorry". This is our own morality. We all personally dislike a person who doesn't admit when they're wrong. So "being sorry and repenting" is not some external imposition on us from some attention-seeking god. This is what our own heart agrees with.
- Heaven and Hell, too, are only extensions of our own internal morality. People who murder rape and destroy innocent lives, I'm sure we all agree they deserve punishment. People who're kind on earth despite how people might treat them, I'm sure we all agree they deserve some reward. Good and evil happen on earth because we have the free will to do them, God didn't force us to do anything. But when bad people do bad things to good people, God is still being Just. The sinners get what they want on earth, because they work for it so they deserve it, and the good people get higher and higher rewards in Paradise, because they work for Paradise, by being good people despite all the odds. And life is short, but Paradise is Eternal, so the pain they go through in this world is more than compensated.
- In his jealousy, Satan made it his life's mission to misguide humanity. This was his choice, God didn't make him do it. God allowed it because He is Just. The Creator of the Universe doesn't have to be Just, in all honesty, He can do whatever He likes (just like you and I would assume that if we created something, it's ours, we can do what we want with it). But He chooses to be Just, and so He does not rob Satan of his right to free will. (Do we choose to be just when we get power? We just become imperialists and treat others like scum.)
- Now what happens to humans, with Satan out to misguide them? The nobility of humanity is in CHOOSING the path of nobility, generosity, and love, even when they're given a choice to do otherwise. That's one reason we're the highest creation. Our FREE WILL, and the will to do good despite the fact that we could do otherwise. God is All-powerful but He didn't create us to force religion on us, we've been give the choice to follow what is true and earn our RIGHTFUL place in Paradise, or not. So He doesn't impose religion and make us believe.
- However, in order to guide us away from the Sore Loser, Satan – He sends us Messengers/Prophets, etc. All Prophets have taught the SAME message, reminding us our purpose on earth and our return to our True Creator – the True One Diety. We're taught in Islam that there were at least around 124,000 of these might and noble men, and we respect every one of them. But over time, some people manipulated the scriptures these men brought, they added modifications or deleted stuff, etc (no big deal – we see it all the time in politics today – people twisting other people's claims in order to get some advantage). In some religions Satan inspired the people to respect the Messenger so much that they gave him the status of God Himself, and in others, they went so far as to kill the Messengers. This is the "evolution of religions". But the underlying Message has always been the same – come back to Me, I am your only Lord and Sustainer , don't follow Satan because He's fooling you. This common theme is something you'll notice (I've noticed) if you read the scriptures of all these different religions yourself. The only reason God has different names in all these different religions is because the people were different, so they had different languages, and the Messengers were sent according to their languages. Adam, Noah, Lot, David, Solomon, etc were all great Messengers – none of them was alcoholic, or sexually depraved, or cruel, or any such negative thing, contrary to what Satan inspired some people to write about them in the Old Testament. Satan inspired a bunch of other things to people in his hate of God and humanity. Now the question is, who really IS good?
That's up to you to decide. You can only figure that out when you read the teachings of each religion, after deciding which of them is authentic and which is not. But as a Muslim, having learned that God is the One Creator and all of His Creation is His family – and that if we love God we should extend love to all of His Creation, regardless of colour, religion, creed or anything… when I hear that, I get the feeling God is Good, and that I'd like to be with Him in Paradise.
Again, no hard feelings to anyone here. And @Yosan, I assure you – you don't want to go to Hell. Things are easier said than done. It's really hot in there.
It's easy to argue and get caught up in heated debates. But when we're about to die, all that's going to matter is what we did with our lives.
I am a Muslim, but all I read in your article was about male messengers and prophets so I guess women didn't count then, and this goes for all religions. I am saying this because whenever I discuss this with Muslims, including women, they find it hard there have been countless female messengers and prophets and that god values us the same. So I guess Satan has also been whispering in the ears of the book writers, the proof is womens hardships today.
correction… I put a capital "H" for Satan being taken out of Heaven… of course I wasn't referring to God being taken out of Heaven, but Satan. Also excuse me I might have other mistakes I didn't notice.
Events like this just add to the suspicion of her untimely death. I'm undecided on whether it was due to her drug abuse or a ritual sacrifice of some sort, though I'm aware the latter is a distinct possibility
And I still don't really know who she is…
Those singer/actors read this kind of articles? Gaga knows that she is under mind control? and maybe shw will be the next one…she is 25 I believe…
VC can you talk about the human sacrifice of aaron carters sister?
Guys
We are trapped in this world , which is run by the god who has a beautiful mask , but hides an ugly face.
Live, worship, suffer, die, reproduce
So that the cycle goes on and on and on.
Praise the lord!yeehoww!
Ladies and gentlemen!
We are all trapped in this world of illusions, by a god who wears a beautiful mask, but hides an ugly Side.
Live, worship, suffer, decay , die. And reproduce
So that the cycle goes on and on and on.
An angel with a demon interior, a demon with an angelic face..
Welcome to Pans labyrinth, where everything is not what it seems to be.
Cry for his mercy, beg for his forgiveness , tremble with trepidation and fear
The restless heart held hostage by fate,
Born by mistake, live through weakness and die by accident.
The cycle goes on, the riddler makes new suckers everyday, the show must go on!
Wicked savage garden….
Praise the lord!
Yeehoww!
@Yosan, I hope you read my long reply above that explains our existence according to the Islamic perspective, which I believe is relieving and makes sense. I forgot to add to it – according to Islam, we are NOT born in sin. Every child is sinless and pure like an angel. It's unfair that anyone should be responsible for anyone else's sins. So it's unjust for God to make us bear the burden of Adam's sin, because we had nothing to do with it. He doesn't. Hence there is no concept of "Original Sin" in Islam, hence there is no need for the atonement of sins through Jesus, and everyone is responsible for how they conduct themselves. God didn't need to Jesus to die for us either because God is forgiving anyway, ask for it (with sincerity of course) and He gives it. Work for Paradise and you'll get it, and it's eternal. Sometimes in our readings of religion we get carried away by the idea of punishment by God – but this isn't a sensible approach – because we apply the idea of reward and punishment in our own world anyway. Why do we have prisons? Why do we have awards? So that we're encouraged to do good and avoid doing bad. God isn't enforcing cruel or unrealistic expectations on us. But there's a difference between the Rule of God and the rule of Man. When man rules with power, he oppresses and enslaves and assumes Godhood for himself and becomes arrogant. But God's Rule is designed to liberate us from our own evils – of ego, of slavery, of oppression, of exploitation, of racism, of colonial superiority, of everything that we ordinary citizens want to rid ourselves of anyway. If you were to study the Laws of God, you would see His Mercy in it and realize it's the only refreshing solution that liberates humanity from its problems, and brings us together under one brotherhood of humanity. I recommend you to watch this, for a glimpse of the Islamic monetary system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsSiOiRDZZ4&fe…
(By the way, I'd recommend others to watch this too… as we all know how the Illuminati are getting their way via the "evil banksters and corporations"… this is video is relevant to that and very informative.)
My intention here is not to proselityze to you or offend the Christians but simply to give a little relief to @Yosan because she seems incredibly disillusioned with religion altogether. The quotes you took out of the Quran eg "God being the best of deceivers" (the translation is a little off, it's more like the "Best of Plotters" – and against those who plot evil by the way) you've been reading from people who quote them out of context. Yes God is "The Avenger", but only for the sake of the weak and oppressed people, and only against those who've been cruel and arrogant, and anyway you and I in our hearts would agree they deserve it. Don't you think abusive arrogant leaders who steal our freedoms could do with a dose of that kind of threatening?
@anony
Please bear with me.
I am a university associate professor in Babylonian studies.
I think I have read my fair share of religious books.
Read the books I have recommended.They are beyond the so called god sent books.
Pity the Christian , who dreams of floating in heaven with Jesus, pity the Muslim who wants to shag hoors in heaven.the Muslim jannat would truly be a celestial whore house, the Christian heaven a cloudy Charlie's chocolate factory with old timers having ice creams and breathing through their nostrils and saint Peter with fake wings.
What a bunch of idiots!
In this demonic earth, this nightmare we live in, we pay the price by birth .
The ruler of this world is a butcher , who demands sacrifices.
Wars, ethnic cleansings, holocausts( burnt offering of flesh),sacrifices.
He runs this world with a flower in one hand and a scythe in the other.
This world truly is a meat packaging factory.
The adepts of the mystery school acknowledge this Diety and offer it the flesh it so loves.
Well then pity the kid who stays up all night studying for an exam while his friends play outside. You won't pity him when he achieves his dreams and his friends flunk. Pity the mother who goes through labor pains, but you won't pity her when she gets an unspoken joy from the baby that she gives birth too.
Yes we live on beautiful hopes that make the world worth living, which has only become ugly and evil because people were too arrogant to accept a Merciful God with His Merciful Laws, and decided to grant the throne of God to the butcher called Satan, who WILL be punished for eternity.
What do you have to live on?
@ Bernard
Dear sir!
Thank you for your kind suggestion, I will read it and please return the favor by reading just the chapter on serpent worship in volume one of the rivers of life by James George Roche Forlong.
We are even ….then.
Thank you
Religions have come and gone, what relevance does the Egyptian book of the dead have for you today….but imagine what it meant for the ancient Egyptians.3000 years back they would have been quoting Imhotep from chapter this and verse that….and would die for their beliefs.how odd it seems now.
All man religions are based on principals…don't read too deeply into the text, as it was accumulated by the scribes during the council of nicea In Bithynia in 325 AD.
Funny that Yahweh spoke through a bunch of priests, politicians, generals in a group discussion.
Well take that and this, staple this one, remove that page…..no not this part…what did John say…what about that paragraph from Peter…..yeah well take that..combine it all together, set the trinity..nearly there..
Wallaa….presto
Godly book created.
Publish and
"The function of religion is to provide man a set of beliefs that enables him to endure reality".
Will Durrant (The story of civilization)
The great will and Ariel durrant and their massive, 11 volume series "the story of civilization " which took 40 years to complete, is a masterpiece.Hear the master.
How easily men and women can be pacified through religion, how easily they can be mind controlled and lead as puppets by masters who worship the dualistic lord.
The great Arthur Schopenhauer says
"men would rather die than think"
I believe there is a lord, a god , a baalim…
What I don't believe is that he is a really nice guy who can only do good.
He is a trickster, crook…..but a good trickster.
He plays a foul game but with a good heart.
The eternal Hermes, mercury..
Both good and bad.
There is a very odd pharaoh of egypt…Akhenaten of the 18th dynasty, who was later labelled as a heretic pharaoh , with his body exhumed and desiccated, names and titles removed from all petroglyphs , temples and records after his death in the mid 13th century BCE.
This pharaoh was also shown as an androgyne (male and female) in his statues and his claim to fame was the banning of different priesthoods , dieters and the accumulation of all reverence and worship to the solar disk called "aten".
Worship off the sun.
Ath-en, ait-on
Ath-eth-ait-aith-ad all have the same etymological root.
Aith was the serpent god of the nagas, the avatar of the solar serpent god shiva.
On was the solar god , worshipped as Osiris .
Aten means the solar serpent god , and Akhenaton being a representation of the deity on earth was always portrayed as an androgyne, both male and female.
This pharaoh had revealed the great secret of the mysteries , of the worship of the bisexual solar serpentine dietyand paid the price for this exposé.
After his death, the priest of the pantheons, started their business again, by selling different gods, and minting money and favors from people's misery.
@ the truth
A dissertation on the mysteries of the cabiri George Stanley faber
Antiquities bernard de montfaucon
Thank you.
Were Amy's parents aware of this Illuminati connection?