Sinister Sites: The Georgia Guidestones


The Georgia Guidestones is a mysterious monument on which are carved ten “commandments” for a “New Age of Reason”. The first commandment? Maintaining the world population under 500 million people. Another sinister fact: the authors of what we now call the American Stonehenge are still a “mystery”… except for those in the know. We will look at the numerous features of this monument, its message calling for a New World Order and explain how it is the work of an occult secret society.

The Georgia Guidestones is an enigmatic granite monument situated in Elbert County, Georgia. Also known as the American Stonehenge, the gigantic structure is almost 20 feet high and is made of six granite slabs, weighing in total 240,000 pounds. The most astonishing detail  of the monument is however not its size but the message engraved into it: Ten rules for an “Age of Reason”. These guides touch upon subjects that are associated with the “New World Order”, including massive depopulation, a single world government, the introduction of a new type of spirituality, etc. The authors of those rules have requested to remain totally anonymous and, until now, their anonymity has been duly preserved. However, this mysterious group left a text explaining the reasoning behind the rules, a text that was not discussed online before. With this new information, the purpose behind the Guidestones become very clear, leaving little room for hypotheses. The Guidestones describe the ideal world, as envisioned by occult Secret Societies. The monument is therefore proof of an existing link between secret societies, the world elite and the push for a New World Order.

The Monument

Quietly standing in Elberton county, the Guidestones will probably gain in relevancy in the next years

Made of Pyramid blue granite, the Georgia Guidestones are meant to withstand the test of time and to communicate knowledge on several levels: philosophically, politically, astronomically, etc. It consists of four major stone blocks, which contain ten guides for living in eight languages: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian. A shorter message is inscribed at the top of the structure in four ancient languages’ scripts: Babylonian, Classical Greek, Sanskrit, and Egyptian hieroglyphs. It is important to note that those last four ancient languages are of a great importance in the teachings of occult mystery schools, such as the Freemasons and the Rosicrucians, organizations I will discuss later.

The four major stones are arranged in a giant “paddlewheel” configuration which are oriented to the limits of the migration of the sun during the course of the year and also show the extreme positions of the rising and setting of the sun in its 18.6 year cycle. The center stone has two special features: first, the North Star is always visible through a special hole drilled from the South to the North side of the center stone; second, another slot aligns with the positions of the rising sun at the time of the summer and winter solstices and at the equinox.

Source: Wired

At the base of the Guidestones lies an explanatory tablet listing some of the details of the structure. It also mentions a time capsule buried underneath it. The contents of this time capsule (if it exists) are a total mystery.

The explanatory tablet explains some of the features of the monuments and its authors (more on them later). The opening date of the time capsule has been left blank.

Astronomical features are of a great importance in the design of the Guidestones. In a relatively “new” nation such as the United States, monuments that are aligned with celestial bodies are often the work of secret societies, such as the Freemasons. Drawing their teachings from the Mystery schools of Ancient Egypt, Greece or the Druidic Celts, they are known for embedding into monuments some of their “sacred knowledge”.

The 10 Commandements

The English version of the Guidelines

The ten guides for a new Age of Reason are as follows:

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature.

As you can see, the guidelines call for a drastic reduction of the world population, the adoption of new a world language, the creation of a world court and a vague allusions to eugenics. In other words, a blueprint for a New World Order.

Depopulation, Planned Parenthood and Eugenics

The first “commandment” is particularly shocking, since it basically stipulates that 12 out of 13 people on Earth should not exist; basically, that would mean everybody in the world would disappear except half of India. If today’s world population is 6,7 billion, then that is a 92.54% surplus. To consider these figures is mind-boggling. But then, how many people survived in the movie 2012? Not many. Who were they? The earth’s wealthiest people. Is this predictive programming?

The last rule of the Guidestones, “Be not a cancer on the earth – leave room for nature – leave room for nature” is particularly disturbing as it compares human life to cancer on earth. With this state of mind, it is easy to rationalize the extinction of nearly all of the world’s population.

Massive depopulation is an admitted goal of the world’s elite and many important people have openly called for it:

In 1988, Britain’s Prince Philip expressed the wish that, should he be reincarnated, he would want to be “a deadly virus” that would reduce world population. More recently, Bill Gates said “The world today has 6.8 billion people … that’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.” Along with tax-deductible donations of enormous amounts of money to help the depopulation cause, “secret meetings” of the world’s elite have been taking place to discuss those issues:

“Some of America’s leading billionaires have met secretly to consider how their wealth could be used to slow the growth of the world’s population and speed up improvements in health and education.

The philanthropists who attended a summit convened on the initiative of Bill Gates, the Microsoft co-founder, discussed joining forces to overcome political and religious obstacles to change.

Described as the Good Club by one insider it included David Rockefeller Jr, the patriarch of America’s wealthiest dynasty, Warren Buffett and George Soros, the financiers, Michael Bloomberg, the mayor of New York, and the media moguls Ted Turner and Oprah Winfrey.”
The Sunday Times, May 24th 2009

The second rule (“Guide reproduction wisely – improving diversity and fitness”) basically calls for the inference of lawmakers into the management of family units. If we read between the lines, it requires to creation of laws structuring the number of children per family. Furthermore, “improving diversity and fitness” can be obtained with “selective breeding” or the sterilization of undesirable members of society. This used to be called “eugenics”, until it became politically incorrect because of the Nazis.

One World Government

“Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
-David Rockefeller, “Memoirs of David Rockefeller” p.405

Most of the other rules of the Guidestones basically call for the creation of a world government, ruled by an “enlightened few”, who would  regulate all aspects of human life, including faith, social duties, economy, etc. This idea is far from new, as it has been entertained by Mystery schools for centuries. Manly P. Hall wrote in 1917:

“When the mob governs, man is ruled by ignorance; when the church governs, he is ruled by superstition; and when the state governs, he is ruled by fear. Before men can live together in harmony and understanding, ignorance must be transmuted into wisdom, superstition into an illumined faith, and fear into love. Despite statements to the contrary, Masonry is a religion seeking to unite God and man by elevating its initiates to that level of consciousness whereon they can behold with clarified vision the workings of the Great Architect of the Universe. From age to age the vision of a perfect civilization is preserved as the ideal for mankind. In the midst of that civilization shall stand a mighty university wherein both the sacred and secular sciences concerning the mysteries of life will be freely taught to all who will assume the philosophic life. Here creed and dogma will have no place; the superficial will be removed and only the essential be preserved. The world will be ruled by its most illumined minds, and each will occupy the position for which he is most admirably fitted.”
– Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages

In “The Secret Destiny of America”, Hall explains the ancient dream of a world government, as entertained by Secret Societies:

“World democracy was the secret dream of the great classical philosophers. Toward the accomplishment of this greatest of all human ends they outlined programs of education, religion, and social conduct directed to the ultimate achievement of a practical and universal brotherhood. And in order to accomplish their purposes more effectively, these ancient scholars bound themselves with certain mystic ties into a broad confraternity. In Egypt, Greece, India, and China, the State Mysteries came into existence. Orders of initiated priest-philosophers were formed as a sovereign body to instruct, advise, and direct the rulers of the States.”
-Manly P. Hall, The Secret Destiny of America

Explanations Directly from the Anonymous Authors

Since the monument’s erection on March 22, 1980, numerous authors and researchers have attempted to interpret the rationale behind these ten guidelines. Do they truly consist of a blueprint for a New World Order? Are they simply rules to apply in case of a major catastrophe? The best place to get an accurate answer is to ask the authors of the rules themselves. However, since they have chosen to remain anonymous, it is impossible to do so. They did, however, leave an all-important statement, which has been overlooked by nearly all researchers of the Guidestones. This astonishing text, which describes their motives in great detail, can only be found in The Georgia Guidestone Guidebook, a pamphlet produced by the Granite Company, which produced the monument. Right from the start, it is obvious that the authors of the monument do seek the creation of a New World Order. This is not a “conspiracy theory” or hypothesis. It is written in clear and unequivocal terms. So here is, directly from the pen of the secret authors, the explanation of the 10 rules of the Guidestones (parts in bold have been highlighted by myself, to emphasize noteworthy parts).

Cover of the Georgia Guidestones Guidebook

It is very probable that humanity now possesses the knowledge needed to establish an effective world government. In some way that knowledge must he widely seeded in the consciousness of all mankind. Very soon the hearts of our human family must be touched and warmed so we will welcome a global rule of reason.

‘The group consciousness of our race is blind, perverse, and easily distracted by trivia when it should be focused on fundamentals. We are entering a critical era. Population pressures will soon create political and economic crisis throughout the world. These will make more difficult and at the same time more needed the building of a rational world society.

A first step will be to convince a doubting world that such a society is now possible. Let us keep in view enduring appeals to the collective reason of humanity. Let us draw attention to the basic problems. Let us establish proper priorities. We must order our home here on earth before we reach for the stars.

“Human reason is now awakening to its strength. It is the most powerful agency yet released in the unfolding of life on our planet. We must make humanity aware that acceptance of compassionate, enlightened reason will let us control our destiny within the limits inherent in our nature.

“It is difficult to seed wisdom in closed human minds. Cultural inertias are not easily overcome. Unfolding world events and the sad record of our race dramatize the shortcomings of traditional agencies in governing human affairs. The approaching crisis may make mankind willing to accept a system of world law which will stress the responsibility of individual nations in regulating internal affairs, and which will assist them in the peaceful management of international frictions.

‘With such a system we could eliminate war, We could provide every person an opportunity to seek a life of purpose and fulfillment.

“There are alternatives to Armageddon. They are attainable. But they will not happen without coordinated efforts by millions of dedicated people in all nations of the earth.

“We, the sponsors of The Georgia Guidestones®, are a small group of Americans who wish to focus attention on problems central to the present quandary of humanity. We have a simple message for other human beings, now and in the future. We believe it contains self-evident truths, and we intend no bias for a particular creed or philosophy. Yet our message is in some areas controversial. We have chosen to remain anonymous in order to avoid debate and contention which might confuse our meaning, and which might delay a considered review of our thoughts. We believe that our precepts are sound. They must stand on their own merits.

“Stonehenge and other vestiges of ancient human thoughts arouse our curiosity but carry no message for our guidance. To convey our ideas across time to other human beings, we erected a monument — a cluster of graven stones. These silent stones will display our ideas now and when we have gone. We hope that they will merit increasing acceptance and that through their silent persistence they will hasten in a small degree the coming age of reason.


“We believe that each human being has purpose. Every one of us is a small but significant bit of the infinite. The celestial alignments of the stones symbolize the need for humanity to be square with External principles which are manifest in our own nature, and in the universe around us. We must live in harmony with the infinite.

‘Four large stones in the central cluster are inscribed with ten precepts, each stone carrying the same text in two languages. In the English version the message totals fewer than one hundred words. The languages have been selected for their historical significance and for their impact on people now living. Since there are three thousand living languages, not all could he chosen.

“We envision a later phase in the development of the Georgia Guidestones®. It is hoped that other stones can be erected in outer circles to mark the migrations of the sun and perhaps certain other celestial phenomena. These stones would carry our words in the languages of other individuals who share our beliefs and will raise similar stones at international boundaries in the languages of friendly neighbors. They would serve as reminders of the difficulties which all humanity must face together, and would encourage mutual efforts to deal with them rationally and with justice.

“We profess no divine inspiration beyond that which can be found in all human minds. Our thoughts reflect our analysis of the problems confronting humanity in this dawning of the atomic age. They outline in general terms certain basic steps which must be taken to establish for humanity a benevolent and enduring equilibrium with the universe.

“Human beings are special creatures. We are shepherds for all earthly life. In this world, we play a central role in an eternal struggle between good and evil–between the forces which build and those which would destroy. The Infinite envelops all that exists, even struggle, conflict and change, which may reflect turmoils in the very soul of God.

“We humans have been gifted with a small capacity to know and to act– for good or for evil. We must strive to optimize our existence, not only for ourselves but for those who come after us. And we must not be unmindful of the welfare of all other living things whose destinies have been placed in our trust.

“We are the major agency through which good and evil qualities of the spirit become actors in our world. Without us there is very little of love, mercy, or compassion. Yet we can also be agents of hate, and cruelty and cold indifference. Only we can consciously work to improve this imperfect world. It is not enough for us to merely drift with the current. The rational world of tomorrow lies ever upstream.

“In 1980, as these stones were being raised, the most pressing world problem was the need to control human numbers. In recent centuries technology and abundant fuels have made possible a multiplication of humanity far beyond what is prudent or long sustainable. Now we can foresee the impending exhaustion of those energy sources and the depletion of world reserves of many vital raw materials.

“Controlling our reproduction is urgently needed. It will require major changes in our attitudes and customs. Unfortunately, the inertia of human custom can be extreme. This is especially true when those for whom custom is a dominant force are uninformed of the need for change.

“Nearly every nation is now overpopulated in terms of a perpetual balance with nature. We are like a fleet of overcrowded lifeboats confronted with an approaching tempest. In the United States of America we are seriously overtaxing our resources to maintain our present population in the existing state of prosperity. We are destroying our farmland and we have grown dangerously dependent upon external sources for oil, metals and other nonrenewable resources. Nations such as Japan, Holland and Haiti are even more seriously overpopulated and, therefore, in greater jeopardy.

In these circumstances, reproduction is no longer exclusively a personal matter. Society must have a voice and some power of direction in regulating this vital function. The wishes of human couples are important, but not paramount. The interests of present society and the welfare of future generations must be given increasing consideration as we develop mechanisms to bring rational control to our childbearing.


Irresponsible childbearing must be discouraged by legal and social pressures. Couples who cannot provide a decent income and support for a child should not produce children to be a burden for their neighbors. Bringing unneeded children into an overcrowded lifeboat is evil. It is unjust to those children. It is harmful for the other occupants and all living things. Society should not encourage or subsidize such behavior.

Knowledge and techniques for regulating human reproduction are now in existence. Moral and political leaders throughout the world have a grave responsibility to make this knowledge and these techniques generally available. This could be done with a fraction of the funds which the world now devotes to military purpose. In the long run, diverting funds into this channel could do more than anything else to reduce the tensions which lead to war.

“A diverse and prosperous world population in perpetual balance with global resources will be the cornerstone for a rational world order. People of good will in all nations must work to establish that balance.


“With the completion of the central cluster of The Georgia Guidestones our small sponsoring group has disbanded. We leave the monument in the safekeeping of the people of Elbert County, Georgia.

“If our inscribed words are dimmed by the wear of wind and sun and time, we ask that you will cut them deeper. If the stones should fall, or if they be scattered by people of little understanding. we ask that you will raise them up again.

‘We invite our fellow human beings in all nations to reflect on our simple message. When these goals are some day sought by the generality of mankind, a rational world order can be achieved for all.

Who Are the Authors?

So who was is this “small group of Americans who seek the Age of Reason”? Although their identity is secret, they have left some telling clues to the initiates, unmistakably pointing towards the occult nature of their group. For starters, the text above bares the unmistakable mark of western occultism. We can find references to “As Above, So Below” (The celestial alignments of the stones symbolize the need for humanity to be square with External principles which are manifest in our own nature, and in the universe around us) and to duality (We are the major agency through which good and evil qualities of the spirit become actors in our world. Without us there is very little of love, mercy, or compassion. Yet we can also be agents of hate, and cruelty and cold indifference). I believe this text alone provides enough proof to conclude that the authors are either Freemasons, Rosicrucians or another hermetic Secret Society. There are however even more obvious clues pointing to the esoteric leanings of the authors, starting with R.C. Christian, the mysterious man who ordered the monument.

R.C. Christian

The unveiling of the Georgia Guidestones. Could one of these people be the mysterious R.C. Christian?

Here is the story of the ordering of the Guidestones as told by the official guidebook.

“What started out as a usual Friday afternoon in mid-summer has ended in the production and erection of one of the world’s most unusual monuments, produced under the most unusual conditions. Joe Fendley, president of Elbert Granite Finishing Company, Inc. in Elberton, Georgia,was spending this Friday afternoon in June 1979 like he spends most Friday afternoons … studying his weekly reports and generally closing up shop for a weekend … and then it all started.

A neatly dressed man walked into Fendley’s Tate Street office and said he wanted to buy a monument. Since everyone else in the office was busy, Fendley decided to talk to the stranger himself and explained that his company does not sell directly to the public, but only on a wholesale basis.

Not to be discouraged, the middle-aged man who identified himself only as Mr. Robert C. Christian, said he wanted to know the cost of building a monument to the conservation of mankind and began telling Fendley what type of monument he wanted. With this he outlined the size in metric measurements.

Fendley admitted that his first reaction to Mr. Christian was not very good, but after listening for about 20 minutes and learning the massive size of the monument he wished to purchase and have erected, Fendley decided he should take this man seriously.”
– Ibid.

The name of R.C. Christian on the explanatory tablet with a nice typo in “pseudonyn”)

If the name R.C. Christian was simply a meaningless pseudonym, why would it engraved on to the monument for posterity? Could the name be of any significance? Well, it is. R.C. Christian is a clear reference to Christian Rosenkreuz whose English name is Christian Rose Cross, the legendary founder of the Rosicrucian Order. Some might say that the resemblance between R.C. Christian and Christian Rose Cross is the result of an odd coincidence. As we will see, it is however only one of the MANY references to Rosicrucianism associated with the monument. This is only one piece of the puzzle, but an important piece nonetheless.

The Rosicrucians

Seeking entry into the Rosicrucian mysteries. Notice the candidate is showing the hand sign of secrecy. Also notice the letters “RC”, as in R.C. Christian.

The Rosicrucians are known for  publishing three Manifestos, published at the beginning of the 17th century: Fama Fraternitatis Rosae Crucis, Confessio Fraternitatis and Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz.
These anonymous works, surrounded by mystery, cryptically introduced the general public to the Rosicrucian philosophy, while announcing a great transformation of the political and intellectual landscape of Europe. The Age of Enlightenment soon followed, accompanied with the fall of feudal Monarchies. The Georgia Guidestones seem to accomplish the same functions as the Rosicrucian manifestos, by calling for an important world transformations and maintaining a climate of mystery.

The Age of Reason

Does “Age of Reason” refer to Thomas Paine, a prominent Rosicrucian?

There are numerous references to the concept of “Age of Reason” within the Guidestones. Could they be a reference to the classic work of Thomas Paine entitled … Age of Reason?

The Age of Reason: Being an Investigation of True and Fabulous Theology, is a deistic treatise written by eighteenth-century British radical and American revolutionary Thomas Paine. The work critiques institutionalized religion and challenges the inerrancy of the Bible. Its tenets advocate reason in place of revelation, a viewpoint that is obviously shared by the authors of the Guidestones.

It is a known fact that Thomas Paine was a leading member of the Rosicrucian Fraternity in America.

“The Rosicrucian Fraternity existed in America prior to the First American Revolution. In 1774, the great Council of Three (the Fraternity’s ultimate governing body) was composed of Benjamin Franklin, George Clymer and Thomas Paine.”
– The Fraternitas Rosae Crucis,

In The Secret Destiny of America, Manly P. Hall describes Thomas Paine as an important crusader for the march towards an ideal world government.

“Of Thomas Paine it has been said that he did more to win the independence of the colonies with his pen than George Washington accomplished with his sword, Only complete reorganization of government, religion, and education would bring us even today to the perfectionist state Tom Paine envisioned”.
– Manly P. Hall, The Secret Destiny of America

This thinly veiled to Thomas Paine is another piece of the Rosicrucian puzzle, which leads me to believe that the authors were either Freemasons (who have incorporated Rosicrucian teachings into their degrees) or members of the Rosicrucian fraternity.

Furthermore, as if to make things more obvious, the Georgia Guidestone booklet mentions that Joe H. Fendley Sr., the president of Elberton Granite, as well as many other people involved with the building of the monument, were Masons. Was this the reason of the selection of these men by the anonymous sponsors of the monuments?

“Fendley is also involved in fraternal activities. Raised a Master Mason in 1958, he is now a member of Philomathea Masonic Lodge #25 in Elberton, is a York Rite and Scottish Rite 32° Mason, and was admitted in the Yaarab Shrine Temple in Atlanta in 1969. He was President of the Savannah Valley Shrine Club from 1972 through 1973. The Potentate of the Yaarah Shrine Temple awarded Fendley the “Divan Degree of Distinction” in 1973, and appointed Ambassador in 1975.”
– The Georgia Guidestones Guidebook


In Conclusion

The Georgia Guidestones are a modern day Rosicrucian manifesto calling for (or announcing) a drastic change in the way the world is managed. The monument is of a great importance in the understanding of the forces covertly shaping today and tomorrow’s world. It materializes into stone the crucial link between secret societies, the world elite and the agenda for a New World Order. The push for a world government, population control and environmentalism are issues that are today discussed on a daily basis in current events. They were not in 1981, when the Guidestones were erected. Can we say that great progress was made?

Many of the rules of the Guidestones do make sense for the preserving of Earth on a long-term basis. But between the idealistic words of the Guidestone’s authors and the actual way these policies would be applied on the masses – by power-hungry and greedy politicians – there is a world of difference. Reading between the lines, the Guidestones require from the masses the loss of many personal liberties and to submit to heightened governmental control on many social issues … not to mention the death of 92.5% of the population…and probably not those of the “elite”. Is the concept of a democracy “by and for the people”, as idealized by the Founding Fathers a mere illusion, a temporary solution until the introduction of  socialist world government? Why are the world’s citizens not being consulted in a democratic matter? I guess it is easier for the elites to manufacture consent through mass medias. But maybe it won’t work on everybody…




  1. I just watched the Planet Earth series for the first time this week. It was beautiful and fascinating, but the 5th disc had a discussion that just did not sit right with me– I had never even heard about it being an issue before– that is the "problem" of overpopulation. The idea of there being too many people seems to go against what God's desire is and has been since he created us…to be fruitful and multiply! Hm. Satan always taking what God says is good, turning it upside down, and making it "beautiful" in the world's eyes.

    • God told two people in the Bible to be fruitful and multiply, why people take this commandment personally I will never know, it seems like many other scriptures, they are being taken out of context. The world is overpopulated and our resources are being stretched thin. While I am not for population reduction on a massive, destructive scale as these occult members are I do believe humans need to slow it way down and be responsible, which they refuse to be.

      • "So God created human beings in his image. In the image of God he created them. He created them male and female. God blessed them and said, 'Have many children and gorw in number. Fill the earth and be its master…'"

        It is not intuitive or according to hermeneutical application or traditional interpretation of this verse to say this only applied to Adam and Eve and not to humankind, in general. Yours, Amanda, seems to be the unusual and out-of-context interpretation.

      • The fact that you take the Bible literally seems to be where your logic goes of course. The world's resources are limited and finite and cannot and will not support uncontrolled population growth. Nor can it sustain the amount of pollutants that our industries belch out into it day after day, year after year. These are simple and logical facts. Just because you people want to believe that "God" created the Earth for us and that it will sustain us indefinitely, despite our massive population surges, think again. The Earth's population has grown at an exponential rate and continues to do so much to the detriment of our species and many other species that co-exist with us on this planet. if nothing is done we doom ourselves to extinction. You can hope and pray for the "End Times" to arrive and solve all your problems, but for those of us intelligent and realistic enough to see through the BS and acknowledge the real problems we face it ain't gonna be that simple.

      • what this world and its resources no longer support are industries and factorys that produce just garbage and pollution to keep this capitalistic and consumptious way of live. this earth has sufficient resources for more humans if we just would live a life in harmony with nature!

      • peptopinkboots on

        TIna, right you are. Furthermore, people who think there are not enough resources need to think twice about that statement.

        Cavemen burned wood for fuel. I'm sure at some point, the caveman population reached the point where some cavemen said, "We have to burn less wood and be colder – otherwise there will not be enough wood for our great great grandchildren. How will they cook their meat?" I'm sure this seemed like a huge problem to the cavemen, but it wasn't an actual problem because the cavemen's great great grandchildren discovered coal, oil and natural gas.

        Now we have nuclear power, and are working on new forms of power and energy production. We can invent our way out of this latest "crisis" too, but only if we stop spending money on agribusiness subsidies, foreign wars, and Hollywood and start spending it on research and development in energy, transportation and infrastructure.

      • Bio-fuels made from such things as Hemp could Jump-start an economy willing to take on that challenge of changing our way of thinking about plants..we could even address some of the air pollution issues by growing the plants for these fuels. (Soil conservationissues can also be addressed with proper soil maintenance.) All of our plastic products (causing hormonal abnormalities) could be made from Bio-fuels instead of hormone containing (dinosaur) fossil fuels. Change the way we think!!! Change the way our governments make policies that benefit only the wealthy and the owners of the polluting companies who have monopolies and care Not for pollution and sufferring, only profit..We Need to Change as a species or perish due to our own Greed and inability to fight the Powers in charge…Just an observation…

      • Sorority Luchesi on

        I think that the Guidestone book is saying as far as overpopulation goes is that we are reaching too high of a number that we will eventually tax out our resources. Yes our resources are finite and once they are gone, they're gone and that's when our population will start to die out, or go extinct. I think that the Guidestones are trying to warn us of our own possible extinction

      • For those of you who are hell bent on believing the lies and deception of over-population, then do yourself and all others a favor and step off the planet. If you are truly concerned about mother earths ability to regenerate then you have not done your homework. They are creating these cenerios on purpose to create that very mindset. So before you regurgitate the elitists lies from hell, recognize the fact that there are many solutions to the situation but the only one being discussed seems to be to euthanize or not euthanize. Hmm, now who would benefit from that ideology. Evil runs rampid when the people choose to allow lasciviousness to be the resounding theme. Let the rich be sterilized first to show how concerned they really are and then maybe those that are considered unworthy of childbearing may follow.

      • I see a few countries that are "overpopulated" and many that are underpopulated. I see MANY countries that are extremely poor, and a few that are blatantly rich. Do your maths.

      • So, if worst comes to worst they should just move people and families from overpopulated countries to underpopulated ones and construct life and make resources, instead of killing almost the whole world :(

      • It says clearly in the verse you just quoted that God made two people and directly spoke to them.

      • And what of the commandment to Noah's children to do the same? What of the Psalm that says that children are a blessing from God?

      • i think what amanda is saying is that God does want us to be fruitful and multiply but not by having random sex and going around getting preggo by everyone. at the same time you cant look down upon these people because only God can judge, God will forgive them, and every baby deserves a life. By spitting on the millions of people who have made mistakes and have had a child even though they may not have been 'ready', you're spitting on their children, innocent, and deserving of life. I bet half of the people posting were born to parents not financially ready but I'm not going to point my finger and condemn these people because they've had beautiful children, created life. Its life. I think all problems will become resolved if we all look at each other as brothers and sisters, not enemies, not of "different culture, race, religion,whatever" we've got to stop classifying each other and stop pointing fingers. We've got to love each other, look out for each other, and come together because blaming each other and hating each other is exactly what "evil" feeds off.

    • Yes, the overpopulation exists but it is not a solution to control it the way as the New World Order plain it to do. We humans must be smarter then that. Start eliminating the growth of population by not keep giving birth especially in poor countries where suffering and disease rules.

      China made great efforts so far. Don't pay child support over one child in developed countries and sure will be less child birth.

      Educate and fight the suffering, instead of controlling people's minds and believes. It is all complicated and takes time but when we start now it will work slowly. Don't create wars just to eliminate lives!!! The possibilities are endless, don't allow to decide instead of us but for us!!!!

      You secret societies don't try to play God!!!!! Follow a good human hearth and share the money makes you so powerful and spend it for good cause!!!! Educate the Earth population – Tell finally the truth about everything and we will understand and follow!!! No tricks!!! only the truth, don't try to keep our minds in the dark and stop manipulating us.

      Allow the great technology and research to reach us. Don't stop all the "Nikola Teslas" out their just because money should be maid and welt gained!

      Now one can eat, drink, bread the money learn from the Indians and learn to live with Nature's laws and accept it. It is not to late for us Humans!!!

    • That's true. But consider the possibility if overpopulation does become a real problem. How would we solve if?

      It'll all boil down to survival of the fittest if resources were scarce. It's scary thinking about it.

    • Why aside from commenting and posting on the internet…don’t we get together, go to the georgia guidestones site and bring that shit down?

      I mean, seriously. How many people are against this? Home many people have commented? Would they be able to stop this quantity of people?

      Would that show “them” how we really feel and where we stand?

    • Just a point on the "be fruitful and multiply" command. It is given to mankind twice in the Bible. Once to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eve before they sinned. Obviously God still wanted them to be fruitful, even after they sinned and were ousted from the garden. The command was again given to Noah and his family when they came out of the ark after the great deluge that destroyed all living creatures that roamed about on dry ground, including all but eight humans.

      The mandate to "be fruitful and multiply" was never again restated to the Christian congregation when Jesus came to earth, or after it was established. The command for true Christians is to preach and teach and baptize believers in the name of God, the son, and the holy spirit.

      True, the gift of having children is God-given, and precious. But today mankind is not under the obligation to continue to multiply. It is a choice left up to the person. Paul said that it was better if a man or a woman remained single.

      • I think it's time we all accepted the possibility and perhaps more likely the probability there are no gods let alone an omniscient divine being – we need to empower ourselves and believe in ourselves and make peace with the fact that we are the masters of our own destinies, there is no master plan, no intelligent designe etc..

        All this war and madness in the world is a biproduct of religion is it not? Accept that religion is tantamount to chaos.

      • I feel for you…you are missing out on an Amazing experience…To know that God IS and that He LOVES you is the most wonderful experience one can have. I pray that He finds a way into your heart that you might experience His presence. There is a plan…we all have parts to play but we also have Free Will and that's our problem. Our Free Will leads us into Greedy choices.

    • Well, what if you do not believe in the supernatural. You must take into account that gods are myths and dogma and doctrine have been created by man and have been rewritten over the centuries. I think we should really make an effort to change our lives, starting first with family and our immediate environments…

    • In the end, the only thing that is going to push man forward is logic and reasoning. I am not here knock on anyone's belief and to be completely honest I love hearing why it is that people believe in a higher power. But the fact of the matter is that our world is where it is because of humans, not some divine power. Our planet is just a grain of sand within all the grains of all the beaches on Earth. We are nothing in the grand scheme of things.

      If we are to actually put a foothold in and have humans engraved in the history of the universe, then sadly some of these rules must be followed. We are slowly killing ourselves everyday and not realizing how important it is just to live with nature. It is the boiling frog method. If you put a frog in boiling water it will immediately jump out. If you place him in room temperature water then slowly simmer it, he will smile to his death.

    • That's how you use the god's wisdom from the devils. God is about life not destruction, abundance not famine. Here is here to unite willing not forcefully. Freely ye have received and freely ye shall give. Our purpose is democracy that we should negotiate and be willing to admit our own wrongs.

      Because nobody is perfect.

    • im assuming u live in america? go to nigeria (hell, mexico) and tell me that women dont absolutely FEAR beoming pregnant… actually youre right, overpopulation wouldnt be an issue if everyone lived the life of a poor guatemalian banana plantation slave. BUT if you live as americans, i think theres enough room for like maybe a billion? 500,000 seems low…but i mean, its not something that could really be accurately predicted

    • God said to be fruitful and multiply, but do you really think that he meant to become so numerous that we destroy the world he created for us? to become so numerous that we can no longer escape our own feces and contract disease, as all creatures do when you put too many, in too closed a space? the 500Mil is simply a number that, that specific group believes this world can sustain indefinitely.

      but as far as believing what the stones say… i don't agree with government, and don't trust them, and don't believe that humanity can accomplish the honestly good governing system it advertises. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    • the headless one on

      I think the guidestones are exactly that, a guide for humanity. they are built in such a way to survive the coming disasters. whether they be man made or natural. i dont think that they support genocide only that they predict that most people will die in some calamity. which i dont think is evil but probably rather accurate. its only a matter of time before we are struck by a worldwide disaster.

    • Yes, I agree with you….the thing I see though is that the church is not standing up in miracles in America. This is the problem. Reasoning takes over because the Supernatural is not being lived in and shown to the world. God fed the Israelites, kept their clothes, kept them from freezing and from cooking in the extreme weather of the dessert, parted a huge body of water in the right place to cross and then delivered them over and over and over and over again from their enemies. But we in America cannot produce a miracle to fee the multitudes? This is a problem. Does the American public know that God is God the Great IAM? Blessings and Shalom.

    • God does say be fruitful and multiply, but that statement cannot be taken alone. He also encourages "everything in moderation". We are charged to protect the earth. I have no solution to decrease population, but if we use up all of our natural resources, we will be screwed and turmoil will naturally occur.

    • In my opinion, this monument is clearly not about the elite maintaining power and bending the poor to their will, or satan's agency on earth.

      This looks to me to be a structure designed to provide help to a post apocalyptic society rising from the ashes, sort of an insurance policy for humanity.

      If there was a massive depopulation event, such as a virus, which may happen, it could potentially be hard to maintain our (humanities) current levels of education (and there's every chance that the rich would not be spared from a random event). Generations of ignorance may pass… we may lose knowledge of what day it is, what year it is… we may lose written language… if this was to happen, then this structure would be useful as a) how could you predict how a future humanity would structure it's new written language (or which culture present today will be dominant in the far future), therefore having it in a variety of languages is sensible.

      By the way, having the variety of languages should be solid proof that those that is set this up aren't planning on setting up one group for victory (i.e. today's financial elite). If you were, you'd only provide one language…. actually, you wouldn't need the monument in the first place.

      After a global depopulation event (again, it could be a natural catastrophe as much as anything else) the population may be below 500 million. If so, the two initial guidelines ( NOT commandments, the clue is in the name) make more logical sense. If many people could plan the human race from scratch, they might cap population before we get into the mess we're in now. They talk about promoting diversity – that is NOT Nazi eugenics, in fact it's the opposite: low gene pool 'races' post depopulation event would need to be helped to conform with this guideline: under any other massive depopulation scenario it's easy to imagine a type of human disappearing from the earth if control is not taken.

      I'm not saying there aren't sinister forces trying to control the world – I'm saying this structure is not representative of negative forces. I don't think they are sinister in intent. I think they are a logical and useful insurance policy for humanity, and there should be one on every continent.

      • Now go look at yourself in the mirror and repeat this mantra "I have been BRAINWASHED"

      • Although a monument to guide a new civilization rising from the ashes of our current world order might not have been the intent, if we continue down our present path we do risk reducing our population significantly.

        I have seen comments about being fruitful and multiplying. We have done that to excess and it has caused us to pollute the earth, exhaust our soils and oceans and aquifers and now to nudge the climate into dangerous territory.

        Whether intended or not, if the monument endures for a few hundred (thousand?) years we can hope that it's message will be heeded by a new human civilization rising from the ashes we leave behind.

        And to those who see conspiracies and hidden meanings here, read the words for what they say and pay no heed to charlatans who profit from telling you what they say.

      • the problem is that the message depict in the monument tells nothing that can really guide a post apocalyptic comunnity in their struggle to survive or thrive. The message is just pure ideology and nothing else.

      • Jake Strickland on

        Your hypothesis about the multiple languages written on the monument doesn't hold water. The Guidestones indicate that a one world language will be instituted. That would be easier done by extermination than political/social pressure from a one world government. In an post apocalyptic time of crisis the path of least resistance would be preferable. So, say goodbye to all but the financially secure elitists. I'm sure you don't consider yourself a member of one of the 'low gene pool races'. That's quite convenient for you, huh? "If many people could plan the human race from scratch", (your own words) What have human beings done historically that makes you think they have the ability (morally) to do this? Eventually human nature rears it's ugly head and the entire house of cards will come crashing down. Even the elitists can't trump human nature. Money in and of itself never has and never will become an indicator of sound judgement. It's has, does and will always embellish the less humane side of man (greed, selfishness, self centeredness, favoritism, nepotism, elitism, tyranny, slavery, blatant inhumanity to others, murder, sadism…the list goes on)

    • I wish someone would drive their truck out there and pull those stones down and also dig up the time capsule and destroy the contents. Why hasn't this happened yet?

      • Because you don't have the balls to do it. You wish for things that you yourself are not willing to accomplish or execute on your on. Any reason you give for not doing it is a lie. You can't get upset about these stones because those who put them there had the "balls to do it". They didn't say I wish someone would, followed by asking: "Why hasn't this happened" they got up and did what they pleased. Do likewise.

      • Because there was an cognitively impaired idiot like you standing in the way. Now, once in your life you've done something good, he he he

    • It's only "overpopulation" because all the resources on this planet are hoarded by profiteers and greedy robber barons who withhold things like food, water, energy, homes, clothing etc. by making people slave to produce and make these things available, and then make them use ridiculous amounts of currency to buy them back! "You will not produce food and someone else do the eating, and you will not build a home and someone else reside in it". In God's law man works for what he wants and reaps the benefits of his labor, but in this sick system, we slave for someone else the withhold the fruits of our labor, and then have the nerve to make us slave for what little currency we can "earn" and force us to buy it back! And many times it's more to buy it than the work we put in to make it ourselves!!!

      • that is true and if the new world order does take effect, and the people left are the rich elite, then it won't last long anyway. the 500 million people left will be the most greedy and corrupt and they will take advantage of their new power. they will continue to use up our earths resources by building the hugest homes possible and having everything their hearts desire. they will continue to pollute the earth with their fancy cars and boats and the numerous planes used to keep society in order. It will work for a short while, but will fail just like all of the other governements 'great' ideas. I think that is what is prophecized, seven years of peace and then the end of the world. New world order will never work.

      • For Human beings that are born with the feelings of love toward one another ,, and helping others..People will almosts always help someone in trouble no matter what the cost..With that being said I can come to only one conclusion and that is..This people are not of this earth or they are the spawn of Satan.. I also believe these beings of the evil one are the ones that have created the Ebola virus to destroy the peoples of the earth,,.. they must be illiminated like the plague that they are…..

    • Most people have been aware of the dangers presented by human overpopulation since the late 1950s. There was much further discussion in the 1960s when cheap, safe birth control become widely available in the form of The Pill. There were numerous books in the late 70s and 80s, one of which The Population Bomb, was required reading for every high school student. This is NOT a recently discovered problem. Many nations, including the US were very successful in reducing their birth rate, but religious groups such as the Catholic church and the Mormon church and others condemn such efforts and as a result, countries such as India, Mexico, and most of South America have not embraced the notion. In Africa where ignorance and illiteracy are widespread, there is little concern with birth control or family planning, but many of the children in those areas die very young due to poor sanitation and malnutrition.

      If you think that following the biblical rule to "be fruitful and multiply" means that God expects humans to keep breeding until there is no food or water or land left, your God is a lot dumber than my God. My God would expect that humans exercise that big brain he gave us to understand the world and the universe and to predict disasters and prevent the resulting human suffering before it occurs.

      • Cannabis regenerates soil. Can be used to create many things including cars. Can fuel those cars. Cures cancer. Can be eaten seeds are a good source of protiens. Played a part in human evolution. Will help us evolve further. U need to lean a little sumtin bout life outside of school b4 u open your stupid ass mouth. Ill choke out bill gates and Bloomberg with my dick n crush em with these guide stone that's all the depopulation we need oh ya n rockofella u punk bitch if u read this know ill punch yur face in2 goo like in sin city

      • well, that started out amazingly… the end, still amazing, but not really a solution. i think that cannabis prohibition should be something that vigilant citizen should dissect and provide as an article on this site. Cannabis prohibition is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE.
        It isnt a fucking drug. It is crucial to our existence, spiritually, and physically. THINK ABOUT WHY ITS ILLEGAL.. ITS A KNOWN CURE TO CANCER…. This goes so deep into the pharmaceutical & military industrial complex which is a huge aspect of this nwo shit. They want all of us dependent on their bullshit. it makes me wonder if aliens werent just smarter humans, those who found that using safer and more effective means of technology, through more earth-efficient processes, instead of current humans, who depend on the least efficient forms of energy use through fossil fuels, which fucks up our planet ! everything we need to do can be done DIFFERENTLY but it is LESS PROFITABLE therefore NOT USED. PROFIT is not what this earth is fundamentally composed of. WE ARE FUCKED

      • Too bad you don't use cannabis for ANY of those reasons. You use it to get fucking high. That is why we want your race reduced negro.

      • That's too bad because colored people are the majority of the world. It's your race sir, that is dwindling, you racist jerk.

      • Who exactly is your God wygent?! You people think that you can play God but you end up screwing things up! I will read The Population Bomb but I will also research the author to see if there is a connection between them and the Population Council and the Rockefellers. If there is a connection with these Nazi eugenicists I will let you know. I'll be back!

      • Chrissy333- The important question is not "who my God is" but rather "If the Universe was created by an intelligent being and s/he also created humans with the magnificent abilities and gifts that we possess – including observation, deduction, calculation, intuition, inference and mentation – did s/he expect that we would use those gifts to anticipate danger, to modify our environment, to create medicines, to alleviate suffering, to ease pain, to educate our descendants etc. or did s/he simply expect blind obedience to very vague and inconsistent rules passed down to us by unreliable sources with agendas for power and control?" I have no beef with religious belief, as such, it provides much of the world with solace and reassurance and comfort; but I do have a problem with RELIGIONS that use faith and belief to extract money and labor from believers and use that money to exert emotional and psychological force to control believers' every act and thought. I have no desire to play god, I simply want people to look around and see that, even here in America, water, food, energy, fuel and arable land are limited and our ability to produce those things is not expanding as quickly as our population. I do NOT support government intervention in family planning or much of anything else for that matter. I do, however hope that individuals will look closely at our nation and our world and judge for themselves whether adding another three or four billion people will make it a better place.

      • there is no money in saving the world. thats why it wont happen. there is no money in curing diseases. it wont happen.

      • gllglllgl doe on

        If the government was not stopping people from planting and forcing people to get off their farms in America..Regulating them out of business… they want control of everything and have stopped the people from being able to provide their own food sources,,, then with that control,, they will starve those that do not submit to the NWO…Satan is alive and well in our government.

    • God told Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden to be fruitful and multiply and to "replenish" (KJV) the earth, not "overfill" the earth! God did not say it was good to keep on "filling" to the point of exceeding the carrying capacity of our planet. Reaping what you sow is a very real Biblical principle and it applies to overpopulating the Earth as much as it applies to anything else. However, end times prophecy seems to picture an overpopulated world. This seems to be a sign of the times that we are living in today. Hardship is coming but so is the fulfillment of His return. Look up and lift up your heads for your redemption is drawing near!

      Strong's Cordance reference: "replenish" -word #4390- to fill, be full of, accomplish

      • WAKE UP PEOPLE on

        If God doesn't exist then freemasonry, satan, illuminati, etc. doesn't exist too. I don't get how people don't believe in God if they believe in this. Well ain't this all fairy tale bullsh-t? You're all just going in circles guys. This is so frustrating to be honest. Remember they defy and oppose God and that's why they made this f-ed up groups who believe in satan. So does that mean you're with them wygent and Bon Jovi?

      • Huhhhhhhhh? Hey, look, I don't care whether you believe or not. That's up to you. Religion brings comfort to lots of folks. However, the debate over God's existence has no effect on the demonstrable existence of the Masons, Rosicrucianism, Catholicism etc. which are simply different extensions of the religious experience. Satan is different issue. Most, but not all, people who believe in God believe in some sort of contrary principle. I don't happen to believe in any of it, but I'm certainly not going to tell YOU what to believe. My issue was to tell Kidtruth that the idea of overpopulation was not NEW and provide some perspective on the subject. If you want to believe in god or God or Jehovah or ALLAH or whatever, knock yourself out, but please, look around and tell me that you believe that adding another three or four billion people to the population is somehow going to make the world a better place.

      • Would it be more convenient of the G_d of the Bible did or didn't exist? Would it be better for you, for us? In your heart, what do you wish most?

      • The existence of a deity is not confirmed by believers in that deity. And also the inverse of that statement. Or are you saying that for every belief system, there exists a god(s)? To say that if God doesn't exist, then neither do these groups… completely illogical. And "Christian Morals" should lead to being a good steward to the Earth. Which is not properly represented by overpopulation, consumerism, rampant pollution, etc. Everything suggested on this monument makes logical sense as far as easier, more sustainable practices of living on and with the Earth, instead of using it up like some poorly manufactured crap from the retail stores. The principles I see in this are of conservation and efficiency, not waste. Every ecosystem on the planet has ways of balancing population. Natural predators grow in population with prey populations. When resources are not sufficient, there is death, migration, and other changes to maintain the balance. Humans, in "taming" nature and reducing the requirements for survival to almost zero, have upset the balance and are growing in population and consumption out of check. And the wear and tear on the planet is obvious. Go forth and be fruitful, but an overgrown orchard only strips the soil, leads fruit to rot on the vine, and in the end becomes desert.
        You can read all sorts of fear and hate out of this, or you can look at it without assuming it is an attack on your belief system and analyze the actual implications and possible benefits and drawbacks of it. But then, that would require an intelligent approach, not one of superstition, fear, separation, and ignorance.

    • well you see most of humanity is just to preoccupied , in which we all have been programmed by the very same organizations . If you do not believe this is about to happen look up F.E.M.A CONCENTRATION CAMPS on the internet in which there are 800 across the us , and Alaska that is capable of 2 million people alone some of which are equipped with DEATH ROW CAPABILITY !!!!! WAKE UP !!!! IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH READ . this is just the tip of the ice burg SEE Dr. Scott McQuate Innercircle or read Blueprint for Bondage. If you really WANT THE TRUTH . I PROMISE IT WILL BE THE MOST INVALUABLE CHOICE YOU CAN MAKE IF IT IS NOT TO LATE ! MOVE FAST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • What about all these unmarried negros and Latinos having kids out of wedlock that this god of yours denounces? Nice.

    • look – I can see where all this is coming from. however, human beings are still natural creatures with 'needs', and bodies, urges, societies, etc.

      The idea of 'removing' more than 90 percent of the human race doesn't sit well with most. In fact, even just removing "5 percent" of the human race seems pretty damn extreme, does it not? We're talking about billions of people – 5% of 7 billion being around 350 million human beings or so!

      So it sounds an awful lot like genocide/patricide/fratricide when it's framed like that, doesn't it? Well, it is.

      That said, the human race (at current, manipulated and technologically retarded levels of industry and scientific innovation) is indeed stripping the planet of it's habitability and ecology. HOWEVER, this is at minimum a two-part issue:

      1: Yes, there ARE a lot of human beings on the planet – ironically, with most of the so-called 'population problem' being fueled by extreme poverty and lack of resources.

      2. As a whole, industries and technologies which could FREE the entire human race from material bondage are being intentionally withheld by powerful interests who wish to 'socially engineer' all of humanity, and whom are already doing just that.

      YES, these two conditions already exist.

      Nikola Tesla developed MANY of the liberating energy theories and technology during the late 1800s and the early portion of the 1900s, only to see his work stolen, hidden, shuttled into 'military' use and obscured from humanity – as being a humanitarian and visionary, he had intended for it to be used by all.

      The 'masses' on the other hand merely reproduce in large numbers due to ignorance, lack of birth control, social customs and taboos, though in poorer countries also mainly in a desperate push to have enough 'hands' available in a family unit to put onto the task of providing a living in subsistence – but also due to elevated rates of childhood and infant mortality. As one can imagine, this often leads to entire villages/cities/nations besot with impoverishment, child slavery, bondage and debt servitude, child soldiers, etc., as basic means REMAIN out of reach for the world's struggling underclass – but ESPECIALLY it children.

      Thus if there is any 'blame' to be had, it is a shared blame: The 'masses' for being/remaining ignorant and practicing unreasonable and unsustainable human ecology, AND the 'elites' for preventing the introduction and widespread adoption of reasonable solutions to the crass industry and ecology of the early industrial age – basic paradigm of which mankind still uses IN TOTALITY, remaining largely UNCHANGED IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY to this very day:

      Witness the internal combustion engine/petroleum fuel paradigm, an industry awash in financial criminals, international spies and erstwhile ne'er-do-wells of great fortune, wealth and power, the basic tenets (and players) of which have remained fundamentally unchanged in any major fashion since the early years of it's inception, worldwide.

      Cruel at the top, stupid at the bottom. Go figure. I guess that makes people like you and I the mid-ground in this so-called "Age of Reason (where any reason will suffice!)"

      • 1: Yes, there ARE a lot of human beings on the planet – ironically, with most of the so-called 'population problem' being fuelled by extreme poverty and lack of resources.

        The problem for these people is not their fault, nor it caused by them.
        Their resources and land are stolen from them, that is if they are not out rightly killed.
        Imagine having the forest/jungle area your tribe has lived in for centuries ripped apart and the area strip mined whilst you are pushed into a refugee camp / shanty town. You are then forbidden to hunt in the remaining forest because it no longer belongs to you, but you received nothing for it and can not get job in the mine as you do not have the needed skills.

        They are not stupid, they just can not match the heavy weapons of the big bank backed companies and military.

        And even in the US/Britain/Australia if you try to live a simple life the Police State / Government jumps on you and destroys your home/property so that you are forced to live like the rest.

      • You hit the nail on the head ,, they have created the problem,,and there own agenda is all that matters to them…unless more people wake up soon,, we are in very big trouble.

    • Go back and read the actual words on the guidestones. Some of these comments have strayed way too far off the mark and people are reacting from incorrect assumptions and from what they think is implied rather than from "what is". The guidestones do not mention or imply a one world government. They mention many nations on Earth internally governing their own affairs with a world court to govern the external matters. It would prevent nations from unilaterally declaring war or attacking another through a coalition amongst other things. Think it through from many directions and perspectives or perceptions. All nations and all people would govern the whole Earth and not just one. A one world government is not mentioned or implied but people do assume. Go back and really look, read, and think. As a part of this world court or council we could say I would also envision a world peace keeping force made up from people of all nations. We are all in this together. The goal is world peace not domination or control. There would still be religion too just let reason prevail. Again go read the words on the guidestones and react from the source instead of one's assumptions. "Love your enemies." And "Love one another as I have loved you." This is the new commandment for followers of Jesus Christ. That means not making war with one another regardless of differences in beliefs. It means not railing against sound rational thinking as contained in these Georgia Guidestones. Truth is truth no matter who speaks it. Embrace it. Even Lucifer and a third of the hosts of Heaven are serving God's purpose and fulfilling His plan. Are we to fight against that? Or should we rather "Forgive them for they know not what they do." ? Let's find common ground with one another and move forward as humanity. Don't believe in conspiracy theories and NWO' s and satanic or evil forces controlling you or societies. You are controlled by your own beliefs…by your own thoughts. So I say believe instead in peace, freedom, love and truth wherever its found and from whoever promotes it. I can understand how people would read evil into these guidelines but it doesn't have to be so. The statements alone are not evil. People are projecting evil onto and extrapolating evil meaning from them however. The reaction is so strong and emotion based because real change is hard. It means accepting personal responsibility for our world and reality all around us. It means looking within and recognizing where the change has to come from. We are all responsible for this world. God will not fix it for us. We have to work ourselves out of this mess we created. Let's get beyond belief and start from what is. Once you see…it becomes apparent that some hard, tough, radical choices need to be made. And overpopulation is a major or root cause for most problems adversely affecting society. Think on this profoundly and completely in your mind , run it backwards and forwards. Let reason prevail. God's laws value life. Children have the right to life and all that it implies in richness, fulness and abundance and freedom. Children deserve to be born into a situation where love reigns. A life born into physical and spiritual poverty benefits no one and is not part of God's plan. We are multiplying like mad but what about that fruitful part of the original command. "Be fruitful". That part preceded the command to increase or multiply . Think about it. Really dig into that part and ponder. We are not violating God's laws when we choose to think and act as responsible stewards of the Earth. Someone here listed the beatitudes of Jesus and if you read them in his original tongue which is aramaic I promise you are in for an awakening indeed. You can find the direct translation from aramaic to english if that is your native language. Just search for it. Put in some work and real study. Tackle the things that trouble you most for in that great wisdom can be found. The guidestones do not promote "killing off" a large part of the population. Rather we should set our course on a reduction through a natural gradual thought out process. Think things through and stop making assumptions and inferences. We need to get back to a balanced state of "being". Nobody will be excluded or left out. Stop looking outside yourself, pointing the finger(or giving it for that matter) at some imaginary evil elitist agenda. It doesn't exist.. We are killing ourselves in our current state of being and we the people of the Earth have power over our own destiny. We control ourselves just think about that. Just stop to think if everyone on Facebook agreed to not go into work for a single day and use that time to take back what matters most, to petition their leaders and work for the change we need. That would be a powerful thing.

      • Rules of writing, Break up text into paragraphs. Paragraphs should be no more than about 9 lines people will then read your post. Peoples attention span dictates they wont read your post Warren.

      • Too much info to the contrary out there,,A nice thought but dont drink the coolaid they worked way to hard to create the state we are living in….

    • God said be fruitful and multiply thousands of years ago, when Earth's population was much smaller and contained. I highly doubt God would advise people today to keep multiplying until all of the Earth's resources were depleted, and most of God's creation was extinct or endangered. When you read the Bible you have to apply the context behind the words and commandments, or else it is a completely absurd source of wisdom.

    • You're crazy. Thuroughly indoctrinated by an institution and too damn self righteous to critically look in the mirror. God gave you a brain. For Christ's sake, THINK.

    • Alexandria Maffeo on

      It's backwards ignorant thinking such as this that got us into the trouble of overpopulation. Yes God wanted us to go forth and multiply, but She also wanted us to take care of her planet.

    • FYI, pseudonym was a typo due to the fact that "RC Christian" as a whole is missing a letter which is symbolic of the typo.. Add an "a" and it's literally signed Anarchistic

    • Darin o Bhelduin on

      The world as a body is correct in finding that Adolf Hitler who wished to radicate certain ethnic groups from the face of this earth was in fact a total Sociopath.

      Those who placed this stone where it now stands may be compared to 100 Adolf Hitlers.

      The question that needs to be asked:
      If this Sociopathic Monument stands within the United States, what does that say about those who Govern that country?

      Are we getting to a conclusion yet? The idealogy of Nazi is ilegal, was ilegalized after the war, therefore How can a Country who lost millions of mothers' sons during that horrid evil war ever allow its people to allow such a horrid evil NAZI item such as this disgusting stone upon their lands

    • I believe that obamacare is part of their solution to de-populate the USA. By adversely affecting so many especially the baby boomers generation, the introduction of new diseases and viruses, they will achieve their wanted results

    • hudson_girl_80 on

      My thoughts exactly! I always wished it would be time for Christ’s coming because I am ready to get all this nonsense overwith. I’m tired of being afraid of what’s gonna happen next and I know that the Bible says that we shouldn’t live in fear but when we are constantly being reminded of the bad things to come it’s hard to stay calm

    • InChristwelive on

      Are you truly ready for His return? Will He say well done all good and faithful servant. Christ can only come when God says so……we need to be busy with Kingdom business and not be frightenend into anxiety about the return of Christ and how the world is today.

      This is not new to God, He knows what's going to happen. We are called to look to Christ the author and the finisher of our faith, yet not hide our heads in the sand and allow things to happen when we have the power to do something about it.

      We need to tell people that there is a way out whether they believe it or not, This is the Great commision of being Christian. Let's stop being afraid and do what needs to be done.

    • Christ?!!? This isn't even close to Christ. Notice the picture of the man knocking on RCS door. It's a circle inside a square. Sacred Geometry. If you don't understand Sacred Geometry this will be nothing more than a picture.
      Note the picture of the man at R.C.s door. You'll now notice a circle inside a square. Representing perfect, or Christ consciousness. The man knocking on the door is seeking ancient secrets of such teachings.

      Sacred Geometry is found in:
      Ireland, Greece, Egypt, and 20 or so other places, all using the same names for such geometry.

      I'll give you some things to reference if you wish to look into it and further an esoteric understanding.

      Flower of life
      Tree of life
      Genesis pattern
      Universal geometry

      Mason cultism derives from ancient Egypt.

    • I am too. But there are people that I care about that will be lost…they need more time and I don't even know how to reach them without turning them off. Young people are always hard to reach. We need more time.

  2. "We must order our home here on earth before we reach for the stars."

    I have always suspected that cosmic travel may be part of their deal. Personally I would wait for a resurrected body and a new heaven and earth.

    • Go not gentle into that good night; rage among the dying light and again rage into that good night.

      P.S. I you do not understand why I posted this poem then watch the movie INTERSTELLAR.

  3. Deacon Joseph Suaide on

    Drives me nuts when perfectly living people decide they want to take others' lives in their– or some government's– hands (they're obviously alive to suggest such a thing.)

    God is not mocked.

    Congrats on your first thumbs down.

    • Um how are you different? Your relgion rejoices in the Judgement day, were a majority of perfectly living people will be smited and killed by the hands of God, thus ringing in the end of days…..

      Dont worry Deacon, us humans will either overcome, or destory ourselves through contaminating our drinking water, destroying rain forests, pumping heavy metals and gasses into the air or nuclear annalitiaon becore "He" comes down to kill us all…..

    • Deacon Joseph Suaiden, I just wonder who are those… silly people who gave thumbs down on your comment? Perhaps they want their lives to be taken to others hands. Or worse: they want to take others lives into their hands. Either way, a million thumbs down to them.

    • Morris Townson on

      Yes, is this not what the christian missionaries do? Tell people that they will go to hell because they did not say some magic words to a mystical myth. Tell people that their religion they were given by their forefathers is wrong and that they are going to hell because of it? The historical evidence of the atrocities committed by the christian religion speak for themselves. The new age christian religion is the same as the old.

      The 3 religions of Abraham were created to instill fear and controll the people. They were originally based on fact but have been distorted. History is an amazing subject.

      • Sorority Luchesi on

        "The 3 religions of Abraham were created to instill fear and controll the people. They were originally based on fact but have been distorted. History is an amazing subject."

        I really wish I could thumb you up more for that.

      • Those were the Knights of the Templar – not Christians.

        People that believe in Satan are the people that made the monument. don't you think there could be an opposite to evil?

      • So the Knights of the Templar colonised South America and ran the Inquisition and Salem witch hunts etc.

      • Religion was made political by government to get you to turn from religion; or God, more importantly.

        in the Bible, Jesus never asks us to follow a religion – just God's wishes.

  4. @Kam and all readers

    I used to think that WE (the Humans) were viruses, a cancer to our planet. But after years of researching and studying the occult I realize that the "minds" behind the wars, oil spills, nature's depredation, etc. are not human at all. Yes, you see humans going to war, humans cutting trees, humans killing each others, but they were implanted with lies, so they think they are doing something good. The small controls the big, the hidden controls the visible. If you were evil you will realize that it's very easy to take advance of the human beings. Humans are like children. For example, they believe in gods because "somebody" created that concept and since we were kid we were exposed to those ideas. Get rid of the god concept and you will see what it's going on in this planet. Most of what we are now is product of lies implanted in our minds since we were kids. Challenge everything you think it's true and you will discover the real nature of Humans: we are wonder beings. Don't ever let somebody tell you that you are just a piece of flesh that thinks and dreams by magic. You are a divine spirit.

    Note: English is not my native language, so I might made grammar mistakes.

    Great blog.!


    • AHuman,

      I totally agree with you, but saying that a mindset can be like a virus and unfortunetly a majority of people even if offered with guidance do not want to chnage, as you see as divine as we are, people are also Creatures of Habit…

      • Everyone on the planet that is human is pre dispositioned to be a certain way at 33 i've realised the idea's bestowed upon me as a child have made me the man I am today, angry fighter type lol however more privileged ppl than mmyself are set differently ie if as a child they were told fighting is wrong or stealing is right then that would be the belief they have as an adult so in a way everyone is brainwashed as a child if your told when your young that you won't amount to nothing well 90% of the time you wont

    • Listen to yourself, what kind of logic is that? Your premise was right, but your conclusion was the exact opposite of what it should be. The lies come from the Father of Lies, Satan. The first lie Satan gave to humanity was, "Ye shall be as gods," which you repeat.

    • What a refreshing thing you share!

      When government in America was overrun by the Occult back when the nation was formed, it did not control the education of children. Now that occult government controls the de-education of the nation's children, forming a generation of citizens without understanding for Truth, and Who IS Truth.

      Instead, American children are taught that lies are facts, and facts are lies, exactly the same thing the occult teaches its slaves.

      We who can understand Truth, and Who IS Truth, can Pray! We CAN Believe, and we CAN use our mind and heart to SPEAK Truth to ALL others!

      The occult uses fear to gain power. Selfless LOVE RUINS fear! Therefore, when anyone demands that you denounce Almighty Y'suah in ANY name He is Believed in, and trusted by anyone to save their soul, consider responding with this statement:

      "If you kill my body, I call upon Almighty Y'suah to explode it and kill every unbeliever. if He does not do this, then know He loves you enough to keep you alive to call upon Him to save you."

      Satan's slaves need to know one thing, only: Almighty Y'suah is above all Creation and he saves those who ask Him to save them from the destruction their disobedience causes. Is this not selfless love?

    • Well I only got one thing to say that that's what they want you to believe that its all lies.
      All the wars and the events that happened in this world most of them were planned.
      And they don't want you to believe that Satan is real. Why? Because if Satan is real then Angels are real and good and bad are real, then god is real.

      Anyway its you who choose what to believe god gave us a free mind and freedom of will.

      Let me tell you something if you're saying that Billions of years ago humans were developed through monkeys then what did monkeys develop from before the monkeys dinosaurs there was this big explosion who caused that explosion? are you trying to say the whole Universe came by itself? Ok, there's a theory that before the big explosion there was nothing, the time was 0. Then there is god who is god where did god come from? was there events before then? No one knows but the big answer is how does god know this much about us? about this universe about our little world.

      How come when the Prophets came with the truth they were treated with hatred and were tortured?

      Let me ask you a question, if a very close friend to you dear to you came to help you for example he told you to stop drinking alcohol because it's bad for you health. Every time he tries to talk to you you're drunk and you beat him almost to death and you torture him but each time he comes back to try and help you because you kill yourself, why would he sacrifice himself if he's guiding you the wrong path? Why would he go through all of that trouble? Because it's all for your own sake.

      So to me yes I believe in Islam, I believe that there is one god! and Muhamed(Peace Be Upon Him) is his messenger and I have followed everything and you know by researching more and more deeper in these events that kept happening I found answers to my doubts. I hope you find your answers too (The right answers) but at the end, its your own will to believe or not to. But before you make a decision ask yourself a very simple question. Why? As they say everything happens for a reason. Each one of us live for a specific reason without us there History would be changed.

      Good luck. :)

    • Getting rid of the god concept is part of what the occultists want you to do. Sure they may exploit it for their purposes, but in the long run they don't want to be answerable to anyone but themselves.

    • I agree with you. There are just too many people everywhere, and many uneducated simpletons that merely exist to eat and watch TV. To add to this pain, religion is encouraging mindless people to keep breeding, having children they can not afford – so who suffers? The children.

      • One can believe in God, in the Almighty like I do, but beware the preacher's version of ANY religion. After reading the whole article, I agree that we have to stop breeding. If a couple wants one child, ok. And usually smart people have one or two children. I'm worried about the ignorant people who breed like rabbits and look for handouts to feed their fatherless children, who in return, grow up just like their parents and repeat the same thing. This is happening in USA, Africa, ME, Mexico, India, China, South America – just about all over the world. Rain forests are disappearing, ice caps melting, earth shaking in pain. Maybe Jesus is not coming back and it's time to quit making excuses for ruining this planet and start cleaning it up.

      • saying things like that are harsh and taken the wrong way you are agreeing with everything we are against. maybe you should formulate better thoughts before posting. THE REASON PEOPLE ARE EXISTING SO POORLY IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN ENSLAVED.

    • "Challenge everything"?

      In my opinion, there's FAR TOO LITTLE "challenging" of evolutionary theory taking place. There are GLARINGLY obvious tidbits of information (Irreducible complexity is one example. There are many more), that outright trash the entire evolutionary concept, a concept which, thanks to morons like Charles Darwin, has been blindly embraced by millions for well over a century.

      • Irreducible complexity?

        Out all the parts of the eye, only one is vital and all the others are secondary, the light sensitive cell – the retina.

        It wouldn't have allowed the waterborne owner to appreciate the Mona Lisa, but it would tell them which way was up and which down. This was useful to the amoebae who evolved them, because it made them swim down to the dark watery depths and stopped them being fried by the intense ultraviolet radiation near the water's surface.

        Also Darwin spent years observing and recording what he saw while travelling the world on the Beagle, to only spend decades analysing his observations before publishing On The Origin Of Species.

        How did you find out about God? By observing and recording what you saw while travelling the world?

        No, the pastor/priest/imam/rabbi told you and blindly accepted it!

      • Evolutionary theory has been challenged more so than religion. The difference being evolutionary theory is based on verifiable facts and therefore "holds water", unlike religion. The evolutionary theory and complexity of life shows us just how wonderful and amazing God really is. I have yet to understand why people think evolutionary theory is incompatible with God.

    • God is not a concept but the reason why, we as humans, will constantly ask "who am I ?" and "why am I ?". And He is also the answer. And I'm sure you are aware that everything has an opposite. Which, I believe, is the reason for mankind's killing one another and destroying our what we have been given to nourish and protect. And there are those out there who exploit that very part of our nature for personal gain. So we do not need to "get rid" of anything other than the hate and jealousy of people who have more….and the greed that causes some to commit the very basis for those feelings. And, truly, put God back into our lives. Then our eyes will finally be opened to know the difference between what is truth and what is not.

  5. I first found out about these Guidestones a year or so ago, and I must say it did alarm me that if the commandments engraved on the stones were to happen, or were intended to happen, that is would be devastating and sinister. But then I thought about it, if I was one of the 500,000,000 spared, that could be a good or a bad thing. I'm sure if the people were targeted as "cancer upon the earth" they wouldn't be very happy, but the ones that remain might feel like they were selected for a team in gym class.

    I for one find it very hard to tell people about the articles that I read on Vigilant Citizen and be taken seriously, I also find it frustrating to see people blindly follow each other and not consider the consequences of their actions, not respect their bodies with the food they put in it, to the clothes they put on it. And these people breed.

    So try think about living in a world where the 500,000,000 people living in it, are concerned about making room for nature, who consider how they will breed and the beauty (not a superficial and materialistic beauty) and harmony they intend on maintaining on Earth. I also feel not enough people have social duties to give back to their communities.

    If you ask me, this place sounds like a great place….

    • Morris Townson on

      I agree, it will be a beautiful world.

      Yes, I agree that having children should be a thoughtful process and not the animalistic breeding done by the ignorant mass.

      Here in the Appalachian Mountains breeding is done by the majority of the people. Their offspring are usually put into foster care sometime during their lives because of abuse and neglect because their ignorant parents are unfit to care for them. The majority of the middle class and above choose to look away from these animals and their breeding practices. But, it is a shameful way for any one to live. And it is everywhere.

      These females start breeding with their first litter around age 14 and continue to have a litter almost every year until they are in their late 20s. Average number of offspring 6, usually by different males and all offspring spend sometime in foster care. So, where are all these fine christian people to help? Why are the christians not raising these offspring? They are too busy looking for rapture to care about those around them.

      I have pondered on the GA. Guidestones for 15 years. At first I was shocked. Then, I became a supporter for them. They are the painful truth where most look for pretty comfortable lies.

      • Well, maybe it has sense in some way, here in Latin America there are serious natality problems, and natality controls would be great (mostly in teenagers, that´s a huge problem!!), but, what the people who made this guidestones want (before natality controls), is to reduce mankind into a 3% of what it´s now, here we´re talking about mass murdering (which they can do by many ways), and, we, the people that read VC, the people who dont read it but know something off all this thing, we´re not included on that 3%, we´re not safe because we know these things. That 3% is evil people, the elite, the people who handles orur crazy world as they want to, now, the question is… do we really want to that people be the only humans in this world?

        -by the way, sorry for my bad english-

      • that people you mention would survive, i guess would be the wealthiest, the smartest, the fittest, and the persons in the know of the things Illuminatis do.

        Perhaps, as you mention, if you do not support them and are like some hardcore chrystians and misunderstanding people on this site, you will die as will people who are superficial, doofy and are the cancer the Guidestones refer to.

        But who knows, I think people just rejecting the ideas on the Guidestones only because they have "NWO" written all over it (now literally because of that grafitti LOL) don't imagine how the world would be. But on the other side, on the end of the article VC says that there is a huge gap between the ideas and how they will actually be implemented.

        To finalize, as someone said earlier, it's like being chosen (or signing up) for a team in class, you would be sad (dead) if you're not chosen, and the other way around if you are.

        I kind of want the NWO to happen now so all this fear, ignorance and uncertainty ends.

        (BTW, you Illuminati/Mason/Powerful person who is reading this, if I am kept alive, well, thanks, and if I'm not, I want to say that I somewhat understand that is for the greater good, or at least that's what I want to think, and if it isn't, fuck you, regards, You know my name)

      • Then you'll happily take the Mark of the Beast and damn your own soul for all eternity. You haven't a clue.

      • you talk about people as if they were animals, so i think you have the same mental illness as the illuminatis.

        the problem you are reffering to is due the lack of education, opportunities and injustice that is spread all over the world and specially in your country, the USA. also, i dont think that it helps to avoid teen pregnancy when their "idols" are a bunch of sluts like lady gaga or beyonce.

      • I Hate what we Americans have deemed is entertaining and acceptable..or rather Hollywood has…Lady Gaga and Lindsay Lohan…come on now…no wonder our youth have no values!!! I HATE the Idea that we have a show called American Idol..isn't that just a slap in the face to all the Christians inhabiting this country, yet the name remains….so sad the path we're taking…depravity and lack of morality…

      • So what you are saying morris is that they have ruined humanity and the only thing left is a Noah experience

      • You speak of these folks as if they're Dogs breeding. Yes the system is broken and Christians have forgotten to care for others…unfortunately a lot of churches use God as a Get rich Quick scheme and forget to have Charity in their hearts. Where is your Charity? Are you just heartless?

      • Hungry for whitemeat on

        I bet you were made fun of I highschool weren't you. Lol looser I'd rip u apart like the food u are on the street u best stay Hidden in yur little mountain whitemeat.

      • ladycruzfield on

        You…. are disgusting. Bully. Nothing intelligent to add so you threaten. Classic

      • This sort of argument for eugenics and controls makes sense at first, but it is always used by those who will ultimately take it as a stepping stone from limited and particular to general and a whole lot worse. Hitler started his Holocaust with small stages. First, euthanasia of the suffering ill children at parents' begging. then, euthanasia of insane or suffering adults. Then euthanasia of genetically unfit Aryans. Then, euthanasia of racially unacceptable….and don't think for a minute he was Roman Catholic just because once baptized as such as a child, because he had abandoned that for occultism long before he became chancellor then fuehrer. Nazism has its origins in paganism, and once they'd finished off the Jews, the Christians who would not go for an Aryan Jesus and a general rewrite of the true faith, would be on the chopping block next.

      • Well, you know what, here's a news flash for you. Your mommy and daddy bred and out came such an antisocial, elitist, arrogant, prideful, immature, judgmental, hypocritical, bigoted, prejudicial, and discriminatory jackwagon like yourself. Let me guess, you were often rejected in high school, too, am I right? Oh, and let me guess again, you are also asexual in real life, am I right, or are you a heterophobe (homosexual)? Please DO tell me why this way of thought is indeed a good one for humanity again? Honestly, you sound no better than the Nazis when they referred to people as "useless breeders." I will enjoy crushing your arguments against my words, Morris Townson.

    • You're sick…. so killing off people would save the world? Really??? That's your solution to destroy peoples lives and kill off innocent children, someone's grandmother or father? And then what? After the bloodshed you hold hands with the 499 million people left and sing Kumbaya?

      • I disagree with his comment and I don't have 7 kids. Military spouse/vet with 2 children whom we CAN afford to raise, clothe and shelter…Thank you very much you small minded person!!!

    • Hey Pam!

      thanks for your comment…

      after seeing your 'intelligent' comment you wrote im pretty sure you are one of the first ones that will be voted off the island!

      5000000 sounds like a good number right? im pretty certian you wont be one of those who will be enjoying it.

      good luck in life

    • Pam, what you fail to realize is that its a trick… if massive depopulation were to take place, do you think human nature would somehow be changed and those in power would rule benevolently? Humans are humans, regardless of how many people are on the earth.

      They want to build a "New Atlantis" which is basically the wicked, witchcraft age that was sunk in the flood… and if you think those are all just fairy tales, just remember that the people trying to build this do in fact believe in the bible and they do in fact believe that their wicked forefathers were wrongly prosecuted.

      Its a spiritual battle and what people that embrace new age philosophy will never understand is that the "fallen ones" who give knowledge absolutely despise mankind.

      • peptopinkboots on

        Exactly. These people are presenting you with temptation, Pam, and you're falling for it. They're saying "Come on, its ok to get rid of all these people. What's a little murder, when the result will be world peace?" The end NEVER justifies the means in a moral person's mind. Never.

    • DangerousTruth on

      This should alarm people because it is already happening right now.This has been planed out and your pathetic life will not be spared.Every one in high populated areas and anyone who buys food from a store is surely being drugged. The list has already been made and I'm sure no one you know is on it hahaha.People are stupid to buy into new ways of this world.The old, handicapped,deformed,or any one who simply knows to much whoever try to live threw this will die.I think you really would like to be a slave because people who are not elite will serve them if alive in this great place you speak of. Color or stature means shit ! Understand this you are not blood you are made to serve.

      • Spot on with that dangerous truth, AIDS was made in a lab to control population an scare ppl into safe sex lol sounds quite far out but why was it not in existence 60 yrs ago also the prison authorities in Britain were caught putting bromide in the tea of prisoners selective breeding springs to mind also recent studies have shown that drugs like ecstasy and ketamine can make men and woman infertile, well it serves them right for taking it some may say but the bigger picture is ppl with addictive personalities will struggle to conceive therefore the gene will die out there is also links th smokers becoming infertile they don't need to drug us, we will do it to ourselves through media making it look good and cool

      • Aids was around a long time ago, it just wasn't identified for a long time. Bromide was used to reduce sexual drive not fertility, was only believed to work while being constantly administered, and was proven ineffective anyway. As far as I'm aware, prisoners generally can't breed, it's one of the punishments that being imprisoned enforces. As for everyone being drugged by food from stores… Do you seriously believe that so many different companies would be involved in something like that? Where would these people get their food from? How many would need to be involved just in that particular instance? Would everyone involved in it be "saved"? If that was the case, that would be a vast number of people being saved, and also requiring an alternative, drug-free food source. Of course, this is just my opinion based on logical reasoning. Seriously

      • All the food companies are owned by only 6 corporations…so yeah, it could happen very easily.

      • That remains to be seen! As if it has already happened!

        We both know who ought to be first to go! We must fight to be among the (possibly) few remaining!

    • In this utopia, you and I and everyone we know will probably be dead. I don't know who will get to decide who stays and who goes…but it probably won't be you and it definately won't be me. However, if you are saying you would volunteer to leave this world, if it meant that only those truly worthy would remain alive, thereby creating the perfect society…I suppose I would have to say that I admire your enthusiasm.

    • Pam, I like what you have to say. I do think though, that the stones do not mean to kill off the extra people, but rather to limit the birthrate. Sadly, if people do not do this, and do it soon, nature is going to do it to us. Disease, drought, starvation… because there really is a limit to what the planet can sustain, and a limit to how many people can live with one another on the planet and get along.

      Personally, I wish people would not let their religions be such a cancer on society. All that hate and violence, can't be good.

      • I'd rather let nature(god) decide who lives and who dies. I don't believe anybody or group of people enlightened or not should be able to decide who lives and who dies because there is always human error if there is a virus in the future I wouldn't doubt these nwo pussies created or are In the process of creating it, they are pushing more and more radiation on us on a daily basis such as airport exrays smart meters etc. luckily cannabis prevents cancer (google it) so I'm safe but if cancer doesn't work they'll figure something else out. The only thing we can do is take them out while we still have billions of people to go after them. If we wait till they lower our numbers we will easily be controlled. If we all snap. Now they might be able to kill a few hundred thousand or maybe millions but not billions. If a few hundred try something they'll just call it domestic terrorism kill the people and tell media to turn it into a joke and move on. Or we could all stop working grow our own food and refuse to leave our homes and when the cops come to get us back each other up and fight off the police. Don't follow the media especially not the news use your brain don't use xtc smoke weed and pick fresh shrooms they are called mind expanding drugs for a reason. Don't let their capitalistic was and sweet words guide you that's what they used on the natives before they "reduced their populations" remember this is land stolen from the natives through murder and broken treaties. The survivors will be suck to suffer on reserves like the natives and don't give me some bullshit about casinos. And definitely don't take anything free from the government remember free blankets gave the natives the measles. It's a simple truth that history repeats itself, this is history repeating itself but on a larger scale. You'll prolly go down but why not take a couple of them down with you. Maybe I'm wrong we shouldn't kill. But does that rule still apply when fighting these greedy devils? Just remember there are three selves and seven chakras when we open all chakras in all selves we are 1 with him and have access to eternal knowledge. I know a lot easier said than done but might as well put the knowledge out there

      • So, tell us, what is that critical mass number? I don't believe you have any proof as to the population that the Earth can handle or foe how long. It would be mere speculation. Playing God is how Satan would want us to be.

      • We are playing God right now. Do you think it would be possible for us to feed 6.8 billion people naturally? Of course not. Human population skyrocketed during/after the industrial revolution. Thanks to oil and fossil fuels we are able to produce food in unnatural and unsustainable ways. Large machines used to tend crops run on diesel fuel and even the pesticides we use to maintain healthy crop growth and yield are derived from petroleum.

        We reached peak oil in 2008 so what happens when we run out of oil? Hopefully, we have enough time to further alternative energy sources and can draw from that but the truth is that we will be unable to support the current population and a mass extinction of the majority of the worlds population could very well happen. Human population has remained rather steady over time, naturally. There is very clear evidence of design ("God") in the way Earth functions through all of its complex systems. There is a balance to all things natural. When one force becomes too destructive another comes in to keep it in check. We have upset that balance and will eventually have to pay for it.
        As to proof to the population the Earth can handle, is the widespread destruction and death that we have caused on this planet not proof enough? Try to think beyond your limited point of view and see all of the damage we have caused. Yes, humans are "thriving" (at least the ones who can afford to) but at the cost of everything else that lives on this planet. We would have been much better off had we implemented the advice on these stones through education when they were first put up. If education of the harm of overpopulation was provided years ago, we wouldn't have this problem now and nobody would have to be "exterminated". Too bad this wasn't implemented a long time ago.

      • ladycruzfield on

        yes!!!!!!! You are absolutely. Right. Dead on. People. Are freaking out…. its for after catastrophe.

      • Nonsense. Do the math. All of humanity can fit within the confines of a cubic square mile. The earth has great abundance. The commandment of God was to multiply and replenish.

        The command of Satan is – please do nothing that will advance the work of God. Please limit yourselves.

        The contrast is stark and clear. Satan is collectivist, demanding that we all conform to a central planning agency.
        Christ is individualist – giving people the choice to do good or evil but offering salvation to those who seek.

    • Sounds great if you are chosen- but what about when your mother or your spouse or child is not chosen- maybe a glitch in their dna or a weak hip in their future…someone says they are of more use as soylent green…yah these ideas are older than Margaret Sanger and they reek now when you spout them just as they always did. Selfishness and vanity at their root. There is too much real wisdom to be learned from the different, the weak, the tender…everyone likes those who produce rewards for them. The real love is born when you give to someone without looking for what they give back, produce. You can't HAVE nonsuperficial beauty and harmony without that kind of love, asshat!

    • I love the fact that I stumbled upon this article. Now I know where to find the opinions of the Seriously Paranoid Deadbeat Non-thinkers!!! What a bunch of whirlies!!!

    • Are you nuts? The place you are describing wouldn't never exist. Do you think that the 500,000,000 people selected to live in this harmony would have any saying about how they live their lives? No, it wouldn't be a democrasy, it would be facist totalitarism one world government. There would be elite of selected few who would run the world and you would actually want to live in world like that? Bearing mind that they have just murdered 92% of the world population, so they clearly have no respect for human life.

      I just can't believe people like you. You are actually saying, that mass murdering of more than 90% of the world population would be ok if you would be in the spared ones.

    • The stones are a guide that, as intended, have inspired debate and consideration of our future. It only stands to reason that our population will one day out grow our planet. The planet will provide balance, as we consume its resources there will be increasing natural disasters. The question we allow it to go that far? A government does not have to kill or control, it has to educate its people. There are many reasons for high birth rates that have little to do with the parents wanting children to rear. As for the idea of one world order..the stones discuss a world court to rule on world issues while still allowing nations governing power of their peoples. Why is this idea bad? We all share the earth it should be governed by all! I do not think we are capable of this as we are filled with too much hate and seem to like the walls allowing divisions. Perhaps when mother earth does, once again, whittle down the population those left behind will read this guide, remember the past, and in turn find a more peaceful path ten the one we have chosen.

      • Just the style in which you are writing your comment is showing a more balanced mind than most. I agree, and much of what is written on the stones resonates with me. I do not agree with killing, secret manipulation, and genetic control, and any spiritually aware person would know that these techniques would not give the results desired for anyone. I would like to see these groups come out in public and announce their will to educate the people. Then maybe voting on the population issue, in each country? If every step taken to produce change happens in the light of the open, then I agree with the sentences on these stones completely.

    • A Man Of Character on

      Problems with the essay and believing in this (and similar) theories:

      1) Continuity. The essay above implies that some sort of society, "them," are influencing human development, creating new ideas, trying to spread new beliefs or ideas to shape the world to their sinister liking. I believe he directly references debates on overpopulation, environmentalism and a unified government as having become public discourse only since the monument was erected… did you know that the environmental movement was most prevalent in US in the 1970's? And that environmentalism as an ideology has existed for hundreds of years? And did you know that overpopulation has been discussed for just as long? There have been many essays discussing the problems of population since the 1800's, and the problem of human overpopulation has been of concern in at least the scientific community since the 1950's, if not earlier.

      And, did you know that the idea of a "one world government" has been around since probably forever? Not exactly a new idea. The United Nations (and its predecessor, the League of Nations) are hated by many who see it as a foreshadowing of rule by the prophesied "One World Government" of the Book of Revelation. Either of these organizations are so far from that. Do you know why they were created? In the 1900's, there were a pair of wars fought, you might have heard of them – World War I and II? It's been said that tens of millions of people around the entire world died in each one of these wars. I heard that countries also used chemical and nuclear weapons against each other, that entire cities were set ablaze, that men died in the thousands in a matter of minutes, and that most of the casualties were civilians. You see, these organizations were created with the sole and specific intention of preventing these unimaginable horrors from ever being unleashed upon the world again, for as long as they were able.

      Do yourself a favor, and stop getting your facts from websites like these. Because in places like this it's very hard to tell the fact from the opinion from the fiction.

      • How about YOU do US a favor and change and remove your user name because it ill suits you and that you have a cup of shut the fuhk up, A Man of (No) Character? We do not want people to become like Hitler or the Muslims, the Roman Catholics, or any other religious, anti-religious, political, or other kind of whack-a-doodles getting a "God complex" that they THINK that humanity MUST follow in their lives?
        This monument is proof positive of such a mindset that has only proven to be ultimately destructive to humanity in the past and to argue otherwise is to promote the concept of insanity, as we ALL know what the definition of insanity is, am I right? Well, in case that you and anyone else needs a refresher course on it, insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results every time. However, we should be thankful that the concept of insanity is NOT how the REAL world works and their fantasy, their dream, and their utopia is our reality, our nightmare, and a global dictatorship that will lead only to more and more death and destruction of EVERYTHING upon this planet.

      • ladycruzfield on

        Thank you! Finally.?? Some logic separated from constant bible pushing crap. This has nothing. To do with
        The bible. Its about healing the earth…..its people… and Yes CONTROLLING POPULATION for the sad fact that it has come to necessary! I agree its scary… to think of being forced to not have children…. but what else are we supposed to do? No one gives a shit about anything beyond their wants and needs and that is why we have a dying planet…over population…… etc. WAKE UP SHEEP!!!!!!!

      • Your comments are as hilarious as they are nonsensical. Do you really think anyone is going to submit to having their breeding regulated? And who's going enforce this population control tinkerbell? you?Will someone go around to ensure every family has x amount of children? This proposal is as unrealistic as it is futile. Saving our world is not managing our numbers, it's managing our resources. Wake up yourself instead of being lead by the nose by pie in the sky ideals.

      • "There were a pair of wars fought, you might have heard of them, WWI and WWII?" Really? I'm curious, who is your target audience? Anyone with an eighth grade education might consider your tone a bit condescending.

        Regardless of where a person might glean information, The Georgia Guidestones call for the elimination of over 90% of the world's population. They want the state to determine who breeds. And what of the births of less than perfect people? Thinking of this in an abstract fashion might be less challenging than considering how it might feel to be the parent, or grandparent, of an imperfect baby.

        I like nature as much as the next person, maybe more. But when nature becomes paramount and people are categorized as a cancer on the planet, something is seriously whacked. Life in such an environment sounds monstrous.

      • Logic Please on

        It does not call for "Elimination". That is merely what the writer of the article assumed it meant. It only says that 5,000,000 is a balanced number. Both for man and nature. It could probably be more but definitely not the current number. If the advice given in the stone is merely read without the explanation from the articles author, it reads more as a warning. To prevent this kind of thing from happening as we see all of the damage it has done.

        It also never says that the STATE determines who breeds only "Guide reproduction wisely". Who guides reproduction? Those who choose to reproduce.Many serious illnesses are genetic and the goal seems to be to eliminate serious, crippling illnesses in humans or at the very least reduce them. Notice they do not want to harm or eliminate anyone who has already been born but would rather like to prevent the problem from ever happening. This doesn't mean everyone has to be "perfect" but if we can avoid having people who will suffer for the rest of their (probably short) lives, why is this a bad thing. I can consider what it would be like to be the parent or grandparent of an "imperfect" baby. Can you consider a world in which nobody would have to be the parent or grandparent of a baby born with a serious genetic defect. Especially seeing as this suffering can be avoided.

        And, quite frankly, people ARE a cancer on the planet. Much as cancer weakens and kills its host, so are we weakening and killing our host, Earth. Nature does not become paramount. It IS paramount. It is paramount to the survival of humans and life. Without it we cannot be. And we're headed down that path and all these people were trying to do was prevent it.

      • Humans are NOT a cancer and I'm sick of people demoting me and everyone else little more than a virus. Yes we have caused great harm to the but we are also trying to correct our errors. We are beautiful, wonderfully made creatures. Not some cancer to purged. You and the rest with this nihilistic view of humanity need to see the full beauty of the world.

    • You are kidding me? Which of the organizations or occults are you a part of…are you really trying to bring people over to your side…

    • Two points:

      1. Anyone who doesn't agree with the need to limit or at least curb the population of the earth, needs to watch the movie "Idiocracy".

      2. What amazes me are the people who read the end of the bible and believe that the NWO/Anti Christ is evil because he wants to depopulate the earth…contrasted with the "good god" in the start of the bible who also depopulates the world, but to 8 people.

      Anti Christ/NWO Population: 500,000,000 vs "Good god" of Bible Population: 8

      • Truly Enlightened on

        It's not the action but the heart that matters. Just the same as pulling the trigger of a gun and killing a person. Doing so to protect the innocent and a nation is heroism, but doing so to harm the innocent is murder. When the Anti-Christ depopulates the earth, it will be done so via murder. When GOD depopulated the earth, it was done so to protect the innocent – heroism. If your children were continually kidnapped, forced into slavery and trafficked for sex with both women and males of adults – would you just stand back and watch when you had the opportunity to save them? Do you really think it isn't heroic to go in and rescue the innocent, burdened, poor in spirit, widowed and entrapped individuals? You insist that what GOD did by rescuing those being forced into experiencing circumstances that no person deserves to experience, is disgustingly irrational. Yet, you almost glorify an individual that is going to be filled with so much hate towards the world because of selfishness so great the heart is unable to feel nor sense morality and thus destroying majority of existence through murder, genocide, torture and starvation is heroism. What if you're that person he chooses to target? Is the Anti-Christ still pleasant in your sight? Or are you still blinded by your level of enlightenment?

        …If what you consist of is enlightenment, I most certainly prefer to consist of ignorance; because unlike you obviously, I prefer to contain a heart and morals towards all of existence.

    • These people much like Opraha think they are God and can decide the future of the people.. we are getting closer to the time when some major event will happen ,, The news is com
      ming out more every day . Pray to the one and only God to protect us from the demons of this earth.

      • ladycruzfield on

        Lady……… knock it off. You just praying isn't. Helping. I truly believe in a divine creator… but this constant not taking responsibility by people like you…. calling anyone with real life hard working morals and life changing. ideas evil….. or saying they think they are god….. is plain ignorant. You trust the news?…. lol. Wake up.we need action….. positive people, new ideas, enviornmental resposibility….. and peace over the world. Not prayer and sit on our asses while we judge others and hide behind our religion crap. Ugh. Just get a real clue

    • I agree with Pam. Humans at large are just as stupid as a herd of sheep — milling around without any conscious effort at intelligent reasoning — just copying each other and/or allowing their physical senses to rule their actions — and their actions are picked up by their offspring — and the consequences of that type of lifestyle is continued on as they breed back and forth to each other — never improving the herd — just making it worse. As the confinement or corral where the sheep live (the planet) becomes filthy, overcrowded, feed and water used up, their attitude becomes more and more ornery — war-like — may the best man win and survival of the fittest or anything goes — nation against nation. True wisdom is present in a rare few because mankind's nature is one of pride, arrogance, and self. Those with true wisdom know how to master those terrible traits that they too possess — and it is the job of those with the wisdom to try to manage the sheep and the planet where all live. Just because the Bible says to be fruitful and multiply, it does not mean to breed like maggots/worms and act just as stupidly as the population explodes. The human was given a brain with which to reason and to learn, but this becomes impossible in a crowded classroom.

      • ug you guys in this particular thread off Pam are the worst.

        You have no understanding for the manipulated facts of the mass media. The world is being ruined by the very same corporations that control the food supply and brainwashed the sheep people into living self centered consumerist lives that damage human existence.

        these sad people wouldn't be hurting the planet so much if they weren't misled from birth by the very same people who are calling them the problem.

        You are saying "fooled you once. shame on you"

    • ladycruzfield on

      I agree. I don't. think the intentions are to decrease population by killing people. And….. it is plain ignorant to use god as a reason we don't. Need to worry about overpopulation. There IS a problem. Wake up people!

    • Boy, are you naïve ! Don't think for one second that even if by some miracle, you would be one of the 5% or so survivors, you would be allowed access to the Worlds beauty. The plan is to put high walls around Cities to CONFINE the survivors and use them as slaves for the morons, sorry, Elite, who are planning this. They are the only ones who would have access to the positive aspects they plan. SO UNLESS YOU HAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, count yourself as a slave.

    • I would also like to add something I have noticed! I read the article on the strange new addition added on the Georgian Stonehenge which is the "2014" block. I found out that that plays a big role in one of the commandments which is to control the world population.

      Today was the first time I've ever heard of the Georgian Stonehenge and I decided to read up on it. As I was reading things started making a lot more sense. Remember when that whole Ebola epidemic happened about a month ago, where thousands of people died and its a coincidence how it happened to one of the most poorest countries/ continent in the world. I think it's a big coincidence how the new addition says 2014 and 2014 is the same year where thousands of people have died due to this virus.

      I feel like we need to stand together and fight for what we believe in or else the elites are going to keep hitting up with these satanic future plans, but we can't do it alone.

    • "I also find it frustrating to see people blindly follow each other and not consider the consequences of their actions, not respect their bodies with the food they put in it"….You speak these words like a true "sheeple"! You would be one of those to "blindly follow" this band of demons who would destroy 8.5 billion people so you could rule the 1/2 billion left as some self appointed "savior". You're saying we "disrespect our bodies with the food we put in it"…that's like saying we all made the personal choice to allow the oil gangsters to pollute the air, land and water – therefore, ALL of life! Unless you're a qualified scientist with a high tech lab and have some special greenhouse that prevents all toxins from getting in – YOU'RE eating it too! You speak of people "disrespecting" their bodies with the clothes they wear and then go on to say "not a superficial and materialistic beauty"…you're one of those that believe an unclothed body is a "shameful" thing! Your statements endorse the practices and beliefs of the evil dictators of humanity who are DIRECTLY responsible for polluting the Earth and every life form living upon it! You're endorsing the genocide of 8.5 billion by the hands of the few 1/2 billion! You're saying to the rest of us that YOU WISH Adolf Hitler would have succeeded in his plan to "purge the world of the genetically inferior"! You need to stop and think about why you believe in the things that you do! Do you think the same evil regimes like large corporations, governments or fake gods like the child raping popes are planning to "save" humanity from itself!!?? WAKE THE FUCK UP! The powers that be now are the same powers that have always been. All the "leaders" have been preaching "peace" and "change"…do you really see any improvements?! You don't "free" people by bombing the shit out of them and then throwing them into prison if they so much as say, "I don't like this"!

    • I agree with you. I hope to continue my work in making this world a better place, where humans can grow their own food, to,provide for their families, respect nature and live in harmony with it, stop overusing our natural resources and go clean…. Butif,Im one of those that will not be spared, it won't matter, because I'll be gone.

  6. There is this book I know, KJV to be exact. It has been around for a long, long time and continues to be the best seller year after year despite the opposition it is up against. If I believe it, I believe that every step we take towards global governance, global economy, global religion/faith etc… just one more step into the ushering in of the anti-Christ. Believer or not……that doesn't sound like a promising subject. Am I wrong? I wonder if I looked around, to the current state of affairs here and abroad…..or looked At the message that is being Shoved down my throat by pop culture and entertainment in general, would I see the warnings? Would I recognize them if they were staring me in the face?

    • Morris Townson on

      Ah, yes, the christian bible. Written in 345 AD by Emperior Constitine for the reason of controlling his Empire. Changed by every man called Pope and by Sir Frances Bacon for King James so that the original stories are not recognizable. And of course, the Gospells all disagree with each other. Have you really read it?

      I don't trust any religion founded by man.

      • This is the most recurring, intellectually lazy, copout of a response when someone brings up the bible. You sound like a 15 year old who's just seen Zeitgeist for the first time… "Its all made up maaaaan!"

        You've obviously never studied the bible even from a secular, academic perspective.

      • I agree morris, but I do believe in following my conscience. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize something is wrong with the message that is the resounding theme of today's culture.

      • BenSWoodruff on

        Have you ever tried to change the Holy Ghost? I'd like to see you try. Men can try to change the written words in books, but Jesus said His words and sayings are spirit, and that they live on in the hearts and words of those who follow Him. Your doubt is futile, the Son of Man is on the horizon. In the mean time, why not read the Bible yourself and accept Jesus, while He is yet patient, forgiving, longsuffering, meek, kind, modest, judging none, delaying revenge, seeking not His own, calling the lost, giving abundantly of His own blood and flesh for us…you may not know Him yet, but—one way or the other—all of mankind will acknowledge the one true God. Not everyone has to love Him (therein lies the choice of the elect), but everyone will acknowledge Him in the end.

        Some encouragement for my brothers and sisters in Christ (our Lord and Savior):

        "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 8:28–39 KJV).

        "Surely there is no enchantment against Jacob, neither is there any divination against Israel: according to this time it shall be said of Jacob and of Israel, What hath God wrought! Behold, the people shall rise up as a great lion, and lift up himself as a young lion: he shall not lie down until he eat of the prey, and drink the blood of the slain" (Numbers 23:23–24 KJV).

      • Then, by your own logic, you should not put yourself and/or other people as the focus of your religion, let alone other things such as atheism, agnosticism, secular humanism/humanism/secularism, hedonism, naturalism, Utilitarianism, Scientology, the modern perverted farce that dares to refer to itself as science, and any other religions that pose as anti-religions, too, am I right, Morris Townson?

    • The Bible WARNS us agains the antichrist, and asks that we be prepared to identify him when he comes as to not make the mistake of following him.

    • Sarah Connor, i am very sad to say, that one of the most evil and sinnister organizations with the biggest death-toll in human history, even bigger then adolf hitler, stalin, or even george bush the first. The Catolic church. Vatican is the devil himself and going to curch is like saying i like my saviour jesus on a cross. thats why i pray to him. fucking blind idiots.

    • Morris Townson on

      They have been poisoning the waters for years with fluoride and other cancer causing chemicals. Fluoride was first used by the Nazis to control the POWs.

      And, of course, vaccinations.

      Can anyone really believe that a flu vac dose for a 120 lb adult is OK for an unborn baby? NOw, that is mind control.

    • Unfortunately no evidence exists that there is a god or a satan so your link is kinda useless to rational thinking men and women.

      • The mere fact that you said such a statement completely nullifies even a remote chance that you have any sort of rationality, let alone reason, logic, common sense, maturity, open-mindedness, and intelligence in your life, Patricio. You are welcome.

    • This "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" heavily relied upon at that website was a false NAZI propaganda document, aimed at defaming Jews. This just goes to show how gullible and lazy to not do some easy research, or deceptive, people can be. So, you're into a website that uses the likes of Hitler's propaganda to crusade against evil? DUH!

      What a total crap link…

      • Don't forget that some of the shit about Hitler is also propaganda. The winners of a war write the history, and they always make the losers look evil and barbaric. During WW2 the Canadian government also used concentration camps for some of its citizens. Allied forces starved German POWs. If you cant feed your army do you feed your prisoners? The Germans were trying to be free of Englands dominance over them. Read Hitlers speeches, there was some good there. I've heard historians speculate that if it weren't for his racism,Hitler would be viewed as a hero to the common people against the rule of the elite. Which of course would have made Englands tyrannical and unjustified desctruction of Germany after WW1 much more obvious.

    • Moving Target on

      The words (as above, so below) are most likely a reference to the 2 triangles that make up the 6 pointed star that symbolizes 666. Also note the date it was erected, March 22, = 3-22, = 322, a number that is important to the Scull and Bones, at Yale University…

  7. Dear VC:

    A thousand million is a billion. So five hundred thousand million is 500 billion. There are what, about 7 billion people on earth? I think the beginning of the article should read either 500,000,000 or 500 million, but not 500,000 million, because that is just well, it's not right.

    • So god (as you describe it) does not want me to talk to people when I fly to Thailand?

      God wants me to have language barriers and make me unable to communicate with people?

    • And why would a caring god give us different languages to confuse us? Surely he must know that would be an excuse for people to hate one another. Also, your "loving" god decided King Lot who was worthy to be saved after Lot offered up his daughter to be raped by the townspeople. Sick. Also, god allowed Adam to engage in beastiality. I've read the bible. God is an obscene monster and it was written by a bunch of self-serving Hebrews.

      • Beastiality, how so? You seem to misunderstand God and the reasoning behind him seperating people at the tower of babble.

      • …and why should we consider what you say as the truth in your life when you have the word hoodlum in your user name? My guess is that you serve the New World Order, bhoodlum.

      • it's pure evil that would cause you to see God in such a horrible way…..that is all the evidence needed to show how Satan works in this world.

      • God is seen this way because of the bible and what is written about "him". The God of the old testament is a cruel, vindictive tyrant. Though they did try to make him more appealing in the new testament. This bible is used by the church to control people through fear. Therefore, the church = Satan, posing as God. Draw your own conclusions on God, our creator, through what you see of his creation. Don't just believe something some people wrote thousands of years ago. The truth found in the evidence provided is much more powerful and reassuring for his existence than the bible.

    • I'm guessing that you also believe that there were two of every animal on board the Ark – am I correct? If so, please be quiet, the adults are trying to have a discussion.

  8. valentin_miro@hotmai on

    well, i haven't finished the article yet, but when i first read the 10 commandments, they didn't seem all that horrible to me. ok, the first one was pretty bad, because that means either killing billions of people, or restricting fertility..but this "NWO" was based upon some fairly humanitarian causes.

    but as we all know. absolute power corrupts, absolutely. a world government, even if its founded on great ideas, will be lost to human error and evil.

    PS i love how its written in russian, yet placed in georgia. i get the concept, but like..come on.

    • Noone said that to get to 500 million that people will be killed off.. where do yall get that from? Its called over time, being mindfull that if your dirt poor and can only afford 2 kids.. dont be irresponsible and have 8 of them. Thats what the 1st 'commandment' is implying. Atleast thats what I got out from it.

    • It is also written in Swahili and Babylonian Cuneiform. You will probably find more people who speak Russian here than both of the others combined.

    • You will need to research much more to fully understand the luciferian philosophy. All these commandments detailed on the guidestones are declarations and affirmations which only apply to them. The 500 million are all of them and just a minuscule amount of us. Think about it, why should only a few declare and affirm that the entire population of the earth should only reach that number? What gives them the right? Lucifer does, according to them. It's them who should live in accordance with nature and it's only them who should reproduced fruitfully and it's the few who remain who should be interfered with with eugenics. It doesn't sound like such a bad place to live? No not at all, of you're a part of the Luciferian families it's not.

  9. "Couples who cannot provide a decent income and support for a child should not produce children to be a burden for their neighbors. "

    What's so wrong about this statement? I agree with it – I'm in South Africa and I look around Johannesburg and see squatter camps sprouting left right and centre. They breed criminals, disease, rats, pollution.

    The squatters reproduce like mice, but they can't even look after their families. Why have 3 or 4 kids (at minimum) if you can't even sustain your own financial needs??

    So what's so bad about that statement?

    • I live in South Africa as well, not in a city like JHB, but in the rural area. Sad as it might seem, but I agree with you. There are people here with 6 or 8 children, and no job. What chance do these kids have for a semi decent future? Most of them do not finish school, because there is no money for that. They end up watching over parked cars for a few bucks, not enough for a simple meal for themselves.

      I'm not sure where I stand on this controling the population, but I know that it is not fair towards these kids. They didn't ASK to be here, but they have no choice to be poor. And don't tell me that they can always do something about their fate. Bull, come to Africa and see for yourself what's going on.

      And poverty is colour blind, people of all races are poor and living in terrible conditions.

      • So you feel like you deserve to die ! smh. You could have easily been one of those children. All the fighting going on in Africa and limb cutting it's funny you would say such thing. Who deserves that ( death)? Who has the authority to say weather you live or not. No ,the person who feel they should take your life should kill them selves. I think thats a better solution. They are the ones with the problem. So what some or poor! Hell some may consider me poor, but who knows where or what I find wealth in. You have poor people sometimes rich in other ways family, food, singing etc, then you have rich very poor in ways no friends, who's to say which is which and what is poor and what is rich. Whom ever you feel like has the right to take your life or another child I feel sad for you, thats what you call poor, feeling like a child has no right to live. Africa is rich with resources so if it is poor people on board you need to find out why you are poor and who fault it is. Gold, oil, diamonds…no such thing as poor in Africa but it is such thing as people keeping you down. You have the right to life, we all do, and if you feel you or anyone else don't start by offing yourself elites and wanna be elites !

      • I don't know if you missed his point but you missed mines. Like I said he could have easily been one of those poor kids. Just like he is wishing death on other children, what about the people wisinhg death on him. I am an American and I could easily say kill the africans which he/she mentioned he was. My point was when you point one finger, there is always 3 pointing back at you. The same way he is approving death on someone else he better watch out because who knows who is wishing death his way. He say kill the poor Africans and Africans with 10 kids. How would he feel if I said as an American Kill Africans. If he don't like the world being over populated he can start by ridding the world of himself. Problem solved. Makes sense to me ! If he approves of killing the poor, who knows the people in charge may consider him poor so to me thats basically like wishing death on yourself, or feeling you don't deserve ! Like if they went on a killing spree right now as if they would skip over him like he is somebody an elite or something. Face the truth !

      • Sorority Luchesi on

        There is nothing in that dude's post that said he wanted children to die, he was talking about the abject poverty in his part of the world, South Africa and how there are people having children when they don't have the financial means to do so.

      • According to the big agenda we are to all become poor. Then who will be qualified to have children. Only the elite. You mihgt want to look at the big picture and think before you make such a broad statement as to referencing that poor people should not have children. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.

      • I do hurt for the families in Africa. But the problem isn't the number of children these people are having, it's the powerful "MACHINE" that has sucked this country dry for centuries. The famines, the deserts, the wars & genocides are NOT self induced. Their situation was planned for the new Age. Who else better to get rid of first but the poorest, uneducated "undesirables" of the Earth?

        So don't scorn your people for doing only what has been their way of life since the very start of time. Blame the people who is intentionally making their way a life harder to benefit their OWN agenda.

        This is what they do. The Chaos effect. They create a chaotic situation & then reveal a solution that in the end, only serves them.

      • BenSWoodruff on

        So, you would rather people have 50, 60,70, 80 or even any number of years on this earth as middle class slaves, only able to have one (MAYBE two) child(ren) as the ideal situation?

        What you fail to realize, friend, is that God loves the poor. He loves them in spite of how much the world hates them. However, He gives the world some time to do what it wants, including being evil towards one another, for the purpose of weeding out the bad from the good. If someone dies in relative innocence and is extremely poor, you assume their short life was in vain. Indeed, God can make even the most pitiful life into the seed that becomes the greatest tree in the Kingdom of Heaven. You have no faith, therefore you do not know. Jesus said those who eat the bread He offered would never hunger. He wasn't talking about croissants. Jesus said that those who drink the water He gives would never thirst. He wasn't talking about mineral treated and bottled H2O. His Kingdom is not of this world, and so those who expect to live well in this world are not receiving the gifts of His Kingdom. Those who suffer in this life will have great comfort indeed.

        You might want to read about Lazarus and the rich man, in Luke 16.

        Also, this simple and TRUE series of statements that Jesus made is relevant:

        Matthew 5:1–12 KJV
        1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:
        2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
        3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
        4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
        5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
        6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
        7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
        8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
        9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
        10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
        11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
        12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

    • It's because when you take someone's freedom away, you are also taking your own freedom. Who will become the authority in this regulatory field? You? What is the level of income that is appropriate to maintain to have children? What happens when all your savings is worthless because your economy and national currency collapses? Should you not be allowed to reproduce due to external complications? Or do you just continue to add rules upon rules and more complicated regulations to a very simple freedom?

    • Those countries such as south africa would not be producing poor people if the elitists had not been stealing all the natural resources for themselves. Just do some research on cecil rhodes.

    • The Right Rev. Dr. G on

      "Couples who cannot provide a decent income and support for a child should not produce children to be a burden for their neighbors. "

      This seems to make sense on the surface, but let's examine this statement and it's meaning within the context of the entire "10 commandments" a little closer.

      Thr first commanment says to keep population at about 500 million (let's assume 500 ,000 million is a typo). In that context, the quote above clearly implies that—on a planet of 500,000 people—that there is not enough abundance for all, and that there will be couples who cannot afford to have children. To me, that means the "elite" are recreating a world where there are deep divisions of "haves" and "have nots," and an elite that still amasses wealth at the expense of others.

      We already live on a planet that could feed the world if the greedy truly had ccompassion. How is this an improvement?

      Pay attention, Christians….this is NOT what Jesus taught….

      • You are so wrong Rev. The planet is having to pull up the ole girdle right now and watch its supply of food. The oceans are sick and fish are dying and/or being overfished. The weather is taking a toll on areas of the world that humans have been depending on to grow the food. Atomic plants have been rapidly springing up around the world just so the greedy population EXPLOSION can have its luxurious energy demands met — and the waste from these plants is now beginning to cause real concern to those paying attention — contamination of another kind on the rise. By the way, just who are the greedy ones? Don't all those breeders care about others? Just have the ole sex or just get that cute baby we want and to heck with the effect overpopulation will cause. If Christians are so concerned about the unfortunate ones all over the world — starving, sick, lawless, etc., then get busy and provide some workable form of BIRTH CONTROL now, and then there would not have to be a drastic genocide take place. Jesus certainly did not expect lives to be brought into this world only to suffer at the expense of IGNORANCE, SEXUAL GRATIFICATION (just like a lower animal) and he did not expect a Christian to prolong this situation by saying birth control was bad. Look around you Rev. A good husbandman manages his cattle, sheep, chickens, etc., and he does not overcrowd them, starve them, keep them dirty, etc., — he gelds, sorts, and lets them breed as he is able to provide for them. He does not breed inferior animals to each other. Jesus would not tell you to go ahead and let this happen to humans and just take care of an inferior mentally retarded baby when it was born. What kind of life does that child have afterward? No — Jesus expects the human who does have a brain to reason and not act like a dumb sheep.

      • Well his "father" flooded the world and killed about 99% so I would think so. You know, if you believe that story.

      • Debbie; all these terrible things that you have described are being done by the powerful Luciferian secret cabal that rules this world.. The reverend is right and you're mostly wrong. Chemtrails, HARRP, eugenics, the breakdown of true worship and families, the dumbing down of society through media, the normalization of homosexuality, the apathetic population due to ingesting toxic food and water, the mass murder of entire populations due to wars, the normalization and complete take over of the pharmaceutical way of treating disease, the predictive programming for a technocracy and subservient population, the destruction and re-writing of ancient history, the satanic and brutal monarch mind control and prdophilia normalization, etc.. All of this is caused by them, this doesn't just happen on its own, this is all caused through a carefully crafted and engineered design.

      • 500 million people are not the "elite". Currently what you could consider the "elite" (those people who control the majority if the worlds wealth and make all the decisions) come in at about 800 (a little less actually). It's pretty scary to consider that just under 800 people control about 80% of the worlds wealth when there are billions of people in it but its true. 500 million (possibly more) sounds like a fair number of people. It is a large and viable population with an abundance of resources for all. Though some might still amass wealth at the expense of others because, lets face it, they're people, 500 million people are not "the elites".

    • What most ignore is that "the NWO people Created all these diseases and poverty around the World" call it "aids or cancer that and much more was created by them" take a look at these videos they are very interesting!.

      The only thing I think we can do is just to pray, educate ourselves because nobody can stop them only God.
      Rev; 13:1-10

      • I am sorry, Humberto, but pacifism is NOT what YAHWEH ELOHIM would want us to accept in our lives, for what He REALLY wants us to do is to fight them on multiple fronts, and not just upon merely the spiritual plane of existence, too. Give me enough guns, technology, ammunition, other weapons, good generals, good soldiers, and good battle plans and I can assure you that the New World Order WILL be waving those little white flags left and right.

      • I agree with you 100% brother. Once enough people realize their evil plans a war we break out any. So why not start it now before those cock suckers take our rights tohave weapons completely away. Im pretty skilled with an M16A4. Anything with that base, I can train people on. All we need is lots of loyal people, weapons, ammunition, pen pointed enemy locations, and prayers. Once we have all, let the training began and soon, War Towards Real Freedom.

    • Maybe if we didn't steal all the land people could sustain themselves. Sounds like YOU are the sickness that needs to be kept from breeding.

    • Well, who do you think created the impoverished situation? They are intent on destroying everything that we
      hold dear. Destroy, burn and devastate so that they will have us where they want us…….under their thumbs
      as slaves and no one over 45 yrs. old. Older ones are exterminated immediately. the camps, gas chambers, prisoner trains, and prisons are set and ready for us. Whoever is not exterminated will become
      their slaves. It is online to be found. Only our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ can save us now.

    • It is bad, very bad.
      Because the people controlling the population may decide one day that you are not sufficient.
      Yes the yobs and ner do wells, the failures and miscreants and other undesirables are always there and to be sure there are ways of dealing with such. However, this is not about cleaning house or admitting that failures need to be left to fail (rather than being "enabled") but about pure control.

      So sure, it sounds good when you think about squatters, but not so nice when you find out that you are not one of the 500M.

      • It never talks about eliminating the population. Just says that 500 mil is a good number that wont put too much stress on the planet and its resources and maintain a perpetual balance with nature. The people controlling the population are the people that breed. It says to breed wisely basically. Not that anyone guides that other than yourself. Given the understanding that it would be bad for the nature and balance etc. Seriously some of you people are assuming way too much. Just read it for what it is. It's a good guide.

      • Um, no…? It says, as a COMMANDMENT, as the 'first step':
        MAINTAIN humanity under 500,000,000.
        Sounds like action to me, not like: "It would be nice if people would do so by themselves". Do you really think someone pays lots of money and puts up that thing, just to write down their thoughts? Pretty naive.

    • Perspective…While I am sympathetic to your view point; can you not envisage the fact that the elites might feel the same way about the masses of middle class suburbanites in the same manner that we might think of the welfare queen, producing more and more children to keep her government checks coming? While we in the middle and working class see ourselves as hardworking, righteous and deserving of our stations in life, the global elite, who have assumed ownership of the planet, based upon their historical wealth and power accumulation, might look at the common man with the same disdain that we would look on those poor people who have lots of kids they can't afford.

      Also, as others have pointed out; the lowly opinion one might have of those "beneath" us, is based upon the preposition that the system in place that governs human affairs is fair and equitable. With a global elite that have co-opted the governments, systems of money, industry, media, natural resources, and human resources; one can ask, could the world be better for all if the elite were eliminated, and their ill gotten gains restored to the commonwealth of humanity? Is there need for tyrannical population control to manage the PERCEIVED threat of diminishing resources, or do we simply need a change of management so that new systems of government and economics can be implemented that better use technology and learning to ensure increasing living standards for all and a growing population?

      I know this is a fictional example, but just imagine for a moment if a technology like the replicator from Star Trek were developed. This technology would vastly improve living standards and make the carry capacity of the earth almost infinite, (only constrained by the physical space to house people). This demonstrates how technology and the elimination of scarcity can be used increase living standards and allow for continued population growth. However under the present paradigm, even if a replicator were possible, it would never be created because our antiquated systems of government and economics which work for the power of a tiny elite, would never allow an empowering technology which would interfere with their profit margins and ultimately, their power.
      Does anyone honestly believe that with nuclear power and other perhaps secret technologies, that it is necessary to meter every electrical customer? I contend that it is possible to create an vast supply of electrical energy that could be free for all, but this does not happen because people are deliberately kept as subsistence levels so that they are forced to labour to pay for their necessities of survival. A labouring man, distracted by entertainment in his free time, does not have the time to do something the elite want to discourage, and that is, (ironically), to think and reason. Until the people that manage the world and keep our political and economic systems in a primitive state for their own power are removed, little will change.

    • Mind out!! A great person can be born from a "squatter" or uneducated person, and a really bad person can be born from an educated, modern one…never forget that GOD IS THE ONE WHO GUIDES THE PPL!

  10. "let these be guidstones to an -age- of reason" =2012=more control for the elite.

    stonehenge=majority of crop circles=signs of rebirth=lil wayne – rebirth=2012

    I could go on and on about 2012

  11. I think there is a mistake here ,, Maintaining the world population under 500,000 million people. "' That is five hundred billion people.

    • Sure about that: 5 hundred billion people.How many people are alive today? and where is the 5 hundred billion gonna live. there aint enough space to begin with.

    • There is enough room on this planet for that five hundred billion with room to spare. The problem is not the quantity; rather the quality~or lack thereof.
      @Ben~ to quote verses of Luke is not valid~These words were spoken specific to those who chose to follow Christ, that they would be blessed in these ways by doing so. Not a NWO

  12. "In 1988, Britain’s Prince Philip expressed the wish that, should he be reincarnated, he would want to be “a deadly virus” that would reduce world population." – Well, he is NOW a deadly virus. He ordered the murder of Lady Diana, and also he tried to sexually molest/abuse her. Prince Phillip is an EVIL being. A deadly virus, and he does not have to born again to be that.

    Absolutely fascinating article Vigilant. THANK YOU!

    Btw, I do not think what you do is fear mongering. I am not afraid of them, because God is with me and HE is the one who let me find this very informative site in HIS pure grace. As I see there is a passion for truth on this site, and that is which matters most, TRUTH.

    • Swahili is the most widely spoken African language. Swahili is spoken in these countries: Tanzania 99%, Kenya 87%, Uganda 85%, Burundi 55%, Democratic Republic of the Congo 48%, Rwanda 28%, Swahili is also spoken in southern Somalia, Ethiopia and Sudan and northern Mozambique and the Comoros Islands. It has more than 11 million native speakers (speak Swahili as first language) and more than 120 million secondary speakers.

  13. Herne The Hunter on

    The only way to fight these people will be when they show their hand. Then there will be fighting between everybody when anarchy rules. When this happens, then everybody will call for a strong authority.

    Then, the NWO will make their move.

    It is only through sites like this that we can come together and be more organised than they give us credit for.

    But religion will play no part. And I find it slightly disconcerting that so much faith is placed on whatever omnipresent god you choose to believe in by people with sharp & understanding minds. And when this turns into back biting like a great many posts above, it really does do us all a dis-service.

    When people start believing in reality, people will see reality. Until then, we will squabble about whos god is more powerful & who is right and wrong when it comes to religion. There will be no judgement day organised by any heaven, any deity. Only men.

    And I know I will fight to my last breath, wherever that fight may be, to keep the freedom of man & to kill these people that feel their wealth gives them permission to control the free humanity.

    H e r n e

    • And when the elite lay dead, will you sheath your sword? That attitude of yours is the same mindset as the elite. You appoint yourself as a god when you deny that there is a God and then say man must enforce absolute justice and arbitrate between motives. You may be on the right side now, but you are subject to the same corruption as the elite!

    • Interesting that you should take the name of a deity from the Celtic Mythos. Why would you do that if you do not believe in "an omnipresent god"?

    • Jesse Alan Long on

      I am sorry, but it is due to two things that you refer to as religions, specifically, Christianity and Judaism, that you even KNOW about the New World Order, let alone all of the other conspiracies that are out there, Herne The Hunter, so therefore, you are incorrect about the concept of religion playing no part in it because, according to two separate rulings by the SCOTUS and by the US Federal Court, in 1961 and in 2005, respectively, anti-religions are declared to be religions by default and that also includes concepts like "science" and political movements, too, as well as self, political, and other leader worship, too. Also, people like you are the reason WHY the New World Order and all of the other conspiracies even EXIST in the first place, but you are too blind, naïve, and stupid, among other things, to see that in your life. Argue otherwise and you will get schooled, son. You are welcome.

      • LOLOLOL So did you actually finish the second grade or are you just showing off? YOU are exactly the reason why religion does not work. Religion creates haters and people that are blinded by their own faith in a god that is as real as the easter bunny. You can not pray away your stupidity,

    • on the money. the sands of time have produced the resultant aftermath for humans to deal with. Now, what is the Watchers' answers?

    • Keeping religion out? Now you sound like the NWO. God is all there is and following Him will bring about sanity and peace.

    • Dear Herne,

      It is thanks to those who share your thinking that the worlds leaders are trying to make the wise decisions that the population at large refuse to. Your "freedom" translates into consumerism, overpopulation, pollution and the destruction of the environment. It isn't our right to overpopulated and pillage, it is our responsibility to care for our environment and grow responsibly.

      It isn't the wealthy vs. the poor; it is the responsible vs. the ignorant.

      Responsible People

    • NWO will never happen, there are more poor and needy people than rich powerful people, when they show their hand we will cut that hand off and beat them to death with it. They can't kill 99% of population without everyone standing up and saying "FUCK YOU".
      As for Gods and prophets, they are just characters in books and are no more real than Harry Potter or The Grinch. Religion and personal greed are the real downfalls of this once beautiful planet.

  14. "Nations such as Japan, Holland and Haiti are even more seriously overpopulated and, therefore, in greater jeopardy."

    Outbreak of cholera in Haiti? Or was it planned. Allah knows.

    • The last rule of the Guidestones, “Be not a cancer on the earth – leave room for nature – leave room for nature” is particularly disturbing as it compares human life to cancer on earth. With this state of mind, it is easy to rationalize the extinction of nearly all of the world’s population.

  15. I love The Georgia Guidestones!

    How else are we going to send a direct message to the over-breeders that insist on having too many people to suck up too few resources?

    The will be no Age of Reason as long as man believes that the most important think is feeding, f***ing and fighting.


    • And why do you think a number of citizens are concerned with breeding and fucking and etc??? Turn on the tv, see the shows, and commercials(shampoo commercials that exploit sex) that exploit these things….Its all propaganda…. Make someone eat their own vomit and convince them that they are sick…. Gotta stop taking things at face value and ask yourselves why, who, what, and where….

    • Perhaps you are too dull-witted to understand this, but the most populous nations, which are predominately in Africa, have a very, very small ecological footprint. The big fat mindless consumers that are Americans use more resources than anybody else. Combined. Almost. So let's kill off Americans and there will be plenty of resources left over for everybody else.

  16. I was really pleased to see that someone had vandalised the Georgia Guidestones – I'd take a sledgehammer to them .

    There are already 10 commandments in the Old Testmanent and if people lived by them then the world would be a nicer place in which to live. As it is, the world is controlled by an occultist cabal who think they are above any law. I'd suggest getting rid of them instead of 90 per cent of the world's population. They have a nerve – deliberately dumbing us down and eroding our morals through the mass media and then saying we're too stupid and degenerate to be allowed to live.

    It' a myth that the world is over-populated – most European countries are already below replacement levels in terms of reproduction.

    However, most of the world's wealth and power is in the hands of very few (immoral and ungodly) people and they actively despise the rest of us.

    • I'd just like to point out that I don't advocate killing the occult elite! From what I've read they really do amount to a very few people and if they were tried by US or European law they would have to spend most of the rest of their lives in prison. Of course – their being "secret" does present quite a hurdle in bringing them to trial!

      • Jesse Alan Long on

        I am sorry, Metal Mickey, but, like it or not, you HAVE to advocate for their deaths, as they are guilty of violating numerous anti war crimes laws and, as such, they must die for their wickedness, for it is what the laws of numerous places world-wide, the UN, AND the Laws of YAHWEH ELOHIM demand, sir.

    • They despise the rest of us because they’re jealous of us. The rest of us are able to have happy, fulfilled lives without billions of dollars and what they think is the power to squeeze the life force from the non-elites. They foolishly think that success means money and power.

    • DoesNotMatter4Real on

      The religious texts of the world are nothing more then perverse dogma from the holy people who want the control through misbelief.

      Most all of the horrors created in this world have been done in the name of religion. I guest you think that has created "a nicer place in which to live". Sounds like you are the one who is trying to create a new world order. Aaaaamennnnn

  17. First: Doesn't VC have the right to keep or delete stuff on HIS site?

    and wow, the devil simply cannot be original, why Ten Guides as in ten Commandments.

    Once again VC, great article.

  18. It's ridiculous how the comments section on VC's articles always become an infinite back and forth diatribe between Christians and non-Christians instead of a discussion of the content of the articles. Kam, Sarah Conner, and anyone else commenting on their comments… you all sound like a bunch of middle-schoolers LOL.

    VC… Good article. I did some research on these things a while back and everything you said lines up with what I was able to learn concerning the Guide Stones. Keep up the good work.

    PS. You need to make your stories more scary LOL!

    • @SteveZ

      I don't know if you get it yet – but it's all about G'od and D'evil, Good and Evil (intresting word kombination), Light and Darkness, Holy and Pervert. This isn't just about Christian or non Christian – this is about all mankind. That religion divided mankind is a fact. But there are still questions that everyone of us have ever questioned:

      What is the purpose of my life? Do you have any answers?

      Yes, there are bad and good people in this world. But WHO defined what is GOOD or what is BAD?

      Maybe the Elite thinks it is good to reduce the population. Did you agree?

      • Or maybe there is but one entity? Have we all been hoodwinked?

        It is starting to seem more and more likely all the time!

        Yes that may be ultimately pessimistic and a convenient reasoning, but one day we really will know… How much can we know through a filter?

  19. We feel VC took the time to write and study this monument. To do such an article just now, VC must have not been so sure whether the monument was bad or not.

    I still didn't made my mind regarding the meaning of the monument and I deeply think that such an unknown monument with no publicity at all, can't be related to the new world order agenda as we know it. And the people who tagged it are stupid.

    This doesn't solve the mystery, it just adds more information to it.

  20. What did Huxley say about idealism? A noble cover for a will to power?

    “The road to hell..” and all that.

    Good Article.

  21. "The welfare of humanity is ALWAYS the alibi of tyrants"… Albert Camus

    Of course the commandments sound fuzzy and heartwarming (except for the depopulation bit) – how else would this hermetic/satanic manifesto get hoisted upon the populace? It's all wordplay that sounds universally appealing but hides a very sinister message, IMHO..

    • You are correct climber. It's Orwellian double speak. And unfortunately the unwashed masses fall for it as Hitler stated, "Thank goodness for leaders that the masses do not think." Hence, doublethink, believing in two opposing thoughts at the same time. They present the stones as if they are following their conscience, but in reality it is for the sole purpose of getting the masses to perticipate in their evil scheme out of ignorance.

    • Great quote climber. There is a very sinister agenda underneath these commandments. I would recommend to anybody researching how agenda 21 has been pushed through. On the surface it seems like a great plan to save humanity and the planet, the reality for the masses is a loss of our basic human rights. The bottom line is that there is a small minority of extremely rich n powerful folk, who worship Satan who want us micro chipped and enslaved all bowing to a centralised government Nwo. For all the posters here who believe these commandments to be a good thing I encourage them to do a little more research because slowly but surely we are edging to an Orwellian state and only mass awareness of what's really going on can prevent this. Love will conquer evil.

  22. Thanks VC for a interesting article and thanks KAM, Sarah and PAM and the rest for a fun comment section :p keep up the good work.(and well deleting comments aren't good but bitching about it aint good either)

    the ten "guides" aren't that bad, except for the first, if you take them literary but everyone here knows that "they" will bend the words to suit them at a whim, or rather the letter of the law should not trump the spirit of the law but then you have to define the spirit of the law also in order for that to work.

    but to be honest i would not mind a global catastrophe whipping out 95% of the world´s population, it would be sad but there is a saying "you cant have happiness without sadness", duality.

    a "clean" start if you will where we hopefully have learned of our mistakes in this world, but then again my view of this world is very much based on main stream news so the world might not be as "dirty" as i believe… lets just nature run its course.

    Of course i would hope to survive it but i would not mind much dying either, i dont follow any religion but i believe in spirituality.

    If you follow some of the 2012 theories there are some interesting once regarding spirituality and a cellular mitosis of the earth where a new earth will be created at a higher vibration(the first circle of heaven if you will, as earth now can be seen as the last circle of hell, if you want to get religious about it), its just a theory and it cant really be proven or disproven but its a interesting thought though.

    Kind Regards


    • "Thanks VC for a interesting article and thanks KAM, Sarah and PAM and the rest for a fun comment section :p keep up the good work.(and well deleting comments aren't good but bitching about it ain't good either)

      the ten "guides" aren't that bad, except the first, if you take them literary but everyone here knows that "they" will bend the words to suit them at a whim, or rather the letter of the law should not trump the spirit of the law but then you have to define the spirit of the law also in order for that to work.

      but to be honest I would not mind a global catastrophe whipping out 95% of the world ' s population, it would be sad but there is a saying "you can't have happiness without sadness", duality.

      a "clean" start if you will where we hopefully have learned of our mistakes in this world, but then again my view of this world is very much based on main stream news so the world might not be as "dirty" as i believe… lets just nature run its course.

      Of course i would hope to survive it but i would not mind much dying either, i dont follow any religion but i believe in spirituality.

      If you follow some of the 2012 theories there are some interesting once regarding spirituality and a cellular mitosis of the earth where a new earth will be created at a higher vibration(the first circle of heaven if you will, as earth now can be seen as the last circle of hell, if you want to get religious about it), its just a theory and it cant really be proven or disproven but its a interesting thought though.

      Kind regards


      So, if I understand you correctly:
      1. You believe that the guide-stones aren't quite as "bad" as they're made out to be.
      Well, why not examine that:
      Satan has put forth these commandments in an attempt to steal glory from the commandments of God (didn't you get the 10 part?)
      Satan is intent on the ENTIRE destruction (spiritual, as well as physical) of mankind.
      These commandments are merely a hoax created by the father of all lies.
      2. You "wouldn't mind" 95% of the Earth's population to be wiped out. Why is that? You wouldn't mind seeing BILLIONS of people die agonizing DEATHS? What type of thinking (?) is that?
      3. This (the NWO) wouldn't be a "clean start" (it is merely another attempt at Satan attempting to bring humanity into [as a living whole] revering him as God).
      4. You would MOST LIKELY not be among those that were chosen to survive. However, even if you were:
      You would be (almost certainly) required to get some type of a microchip implant imbedded either in your hand or forehead. (In other words, the mark of the beast).
      5. Why do you claim to be spiritual and not believe in any religion? Don't you know that there are merely two choices in regards to spirituality:
      1. Believe the REALITY which is of God.
      2. Believe the lies that are of Satan.

      Well, anyway, God bless!
      Thank God!
      Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world!
      God (The True and Living God, Jehovah) is LIFE!

      Life begins at conception.
      What we OFTEN hear being called "abortion" is in reality infanticide.
      Fetuses are unborn infants.

  23. Theses people are crazy ! First of all who cares that much ? It's a world and you live and die, key word die so who cares ? As long as you respect your planet, and the people of the planet all should be good. I feel like how can you kick me out of a piece of crap, like who cares? At the same time who has the right to say whats best for the world in such an evil way. What kills me is they act like this world is " gold with gravy poured on top" no disrespect to the true creator but you know what I am trying to say ! It's earth for crying sake not Heaven. If they knew they didn't want this many people on earth which is understandable why didn't they take preventive measures. I am sure they knew the day would come many years ago so that alone puzzle's me. Next all this talk about higher conscience if you ask me is BS. I have never, or have any of you ever met a person who became God like conscience wise. I know few people that " yogi " etc some famous, some not and I have yet to see a human exhibit God like qualities, fly through the mouuntians or any thing close to a god with a lower case g let alone a capital. Then you have this talk of 3d vision or whatever it is called but we have yet to meet one single person with these qualities. These people can barley create a happy meal let alone water, a world, grass so I am pretty much lost. Last but not least all these celebrities that think they are " elite" I bet my life savings on the fact they will be the first ones shut out of the elites plans. I bet money. When they go to knocking thinking it's "all good" I gaurentee you they will be A**ed out ! For the rest of the rules these people should really get a life. It's not that serious like who cares that much ! Someone give these people a zan-nax or something they need to calm way down!

    • Wow guess the elite didn't like this comment. Wasn't expecting thumbs down but thanks. Anyway I forgot something ! Love the "F the nwo" grafitti paint on the last picture. Thats exactly how I feel ! What I strive to understand is if they were so smart and we have this 3dworld vision, why won't they elevate to a higher conscience and live in it. Show me proff I have yet to see one example of such things. These people need a life. A world with 5 million people. OMG sounds like fun * sarcasm* Have at it !

  24. 'Human beings are special creatures.'

    'Bringing unneeded children into an overcrowded lifeboat is evil.'

    These guys are contradicting themselves…they think they are God, to decide which children are needed and which are not. They think they can act above God.

    How different is this from the message of the real God, Christ who said..

    "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.” (Matthew, 19, 16)

    • P.S. What I meant is, Christ blesses children! People are not a commodity. Here is the whole verse

      Then people brought little children to Jesus for him to place his hands on them and pray for them. But the disciples rebuked them. Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.” When he had placed his hands on them, he went on from there.

    • BenSWoodruff on

      "Praise ye the Lord. O give thanks unto the Lord; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever" (Psalms 106:1 KJV). I thank God for His children, and His glory, which He has placed in them.

    • Christ said that but it has nothing to do with responsible birth control. He was speaking of the innocence of children and the fact that until they are indoctrinated with the beliefs of their elders their minds are open to new ideas. They have nothing to unlearn.

  25. Well what can i say… you see the problem is that this group of people are trying to actually make heaven on earth. they truely believe that thru their actions, the world will be filled with peace, love and harmony. so the question is whats wrong with that? i mean everybody is sick of wars, famine, starvation, immorality and many others right? So whats the big deal? The problem is that the elites are trying to achieve this without the guidance of God (jesus christ). You see the thing is we believe we are gods. the moment we tell ourselves we are in control of our lives, we can make our own decisions and judgements, we believe we don need help from nobody and we can acheive it. However it will ultimately lead to our demise because we are just mere human beings. so small we are to earth and to the universe and ultimately GOD that we forgot where we stand. Of course the elites believes in satan and they are tricked by him. so what i'm trying to say is that the only way to stop all this nonsense is to follow the words of jesus christ and place your life in his hands and if everyone in the world does that, only then we can achieve peace, love and harmony. you can be sure that god never wanted us to acheive this much, he has always wanted us to listen and obey him but of course adam & eve ate that apple and everything changed after that.

    Thanks for reading. just wanna share my thoughts with you guys :)

    Time for me to look the man in the mirror and start a random act of kindness to play my part for god

  26. Nope- not written by Constantine at all. There are over 30,000 artifacts outside of the Bible that either correlate or directly support the events of the old testament Bible that are dated thousands of years before Constantine. Some agnostics say that the Bible borrowed from these ancient artifacts- that may be, but if that's the case than Constantine couldn't have "written" the bible because all that happened before his time. Can't have it both ways…

    Personally, I do believe in the inerrancy of the Word, but I don't believe in blind faith. I believe the Word can defend itself against "science", philosophy, and the vain posturing of human wisdom. I'm not afraid of these new aged priests of evolution, eugenics, and/or the New World Order. No one takes care to notice that all these PhD. "gurus" of knowledge only have empty theories themselves- NOTHING they have postulated about, be it the creation of the earth, the existence of God, the "evolution" of man has EVER been proven to even a HINT of the degree of soundness that scientists would have accepted 100 years ago- and they knew less about the world than us!

    There is no "proof" anymore except what man wants to believe. Of course if there's no God there's no absolute moralism and you can make up your own flawed, utopian rules for a great society and stick it on a slab of granite in Georgia and hope that someone stupid enough to swallow your own version of B.S. would agree with it one day. It all sounds great, but again- it's only great if you're one of the 500,000,000 isn't it? Hope you all think of how "great" this version of society will be when they're telling you what to do with your body, your thinking, where you live, where you sleep, what you do all day, the fact that you can't have children when/where you decide- or better yet, if they aim their depopulation cannon straight at your fat head…

    Only in the Lord is there true freedom, true good, and true provision- I think He knew what He was doing when He created the earth. Surely population control is within His power should He deem it necessary.

    • Hmm yeah the Muslims have one of those "best sellers" too…it's called the Q'uran. Maybe you've heard of it. In not too long you might even be forced to read it because if things go the way they are, the will become the dominant religion on the planet in less than a century. My point is that with so many competing religions and sacred texts, it seems that it is all likely a load of crap. Maybe if people started to think rationally and look to science and reason to solve our problems instead of praying for a miracle we might have more of a chance to actually make it out of the 21 century with our species largely intact. I , for one, don't want to see Armageddon because I don't have a foolish superstitious death wish. I'd actually like to see humankind survive to fulfill its potential.

      • I've read both the Bible and the Quran, regardless of the sacredness or not you can tell that the Quran was written by a man with an education of a 5 year old.

      • Or maybe you just have the understanding of a 5 year old? If you do read the Qur'an, which I do recommend, your heart will be excited and your soul revitalised. You will have the desire and the strength to stand up to these monkeys that think they can kill most of the people (and you will be successful!). All of you people that are being misled and say that religion is bad have been duped and tricked, religion (as we all will see) will be the only thing that is going to stand up to these things (they don't deserve to be called human). If I'm wrong, then someone please tell me why America is spending so much effort in trying to change Islam and the muslims? Why is the US Govt attacking mostly muslim countries? Why are all the people who actually follow Islam properly demonized and why is the image of Islam being attacked from every direction? Could it really be because Islam is wrong? Or because religion is wrong?…

        Instead it is because the teachings of Islam (and indeed other religions which are from Allah) compel their followers to fight oppression and injustice and not to accept the luxury of this world and all the 'seemingly' good things the NWO has to offer, and that in itself is the biggest threat that they have to (and definitely will) face.

        So, when the Muslims, True Christians, and True Jews and all the people who follow the truth and love righteousness pick up their swords, guns and baseball bats to get rid of these rats, then let us be called terrorists or fundamentalists or whatever the hell else they want to call us. At the end of the day – the NWO is going down the sewage drain that they crawled out of.

      • "Or maybe you just have the understanding of a 5 year old? If you do read the Qur’an, which I do recommend, your heart will be excited and your soul revitalised. You will have the desire and the strength to stand up to these monkeys that think they can kill most of the people (and you will be successful!)."

        Not quite, the only thing I feel when I do read it is sadness that people can be so mislead. My favorite verse is the one where Allah says two women must be a witness instead of just one man because women are so dumb and forgetful (obviously I'm paraphrasing but the same point is made). I also love all of the other statements about how he is so eager to destroy most of the population for being so wicked and terrible, and not going with his plan, just like a New World Order leader.

        "All of you people that are being misled and say that religion is bad have been duped and tricked, religion (as we all will see) will be the only thing that is going to stand up to these things (they don’t deserve to be called human). If I’m wrong, then someone please tell me why America is spending so much effort in trying to change Islam and the muslims? Why is the US Govt attacking mostly muslim countries? Why are all the people who actually follow Islam properly demonized and why is the image of Islam being attacked from every direction? Could it really be because Islam is wrong? Or because religion is wrong?…"

        You say that America is spending so much money trying to change Islam and the Muslims yet Muslims come to my nation and demand Sharia courts. And liberated American women watch in disgust as you wrap yours up from head to toe while your men walk around in standard western style clothing.

      • Mohammed was quite possibly the second most evil man to walk the Earth. The Koran is a lie from the pit of Hell. I curse the name of Mohammed- may his name be held in everlasting derision!

  27. I agree…

    Those too are really contradicting themselves. It's so funny.

    "VC is an agent of MIS INFO and a snake in the grass!!"; " I was a fan of this website until now…" – what, because your comment disappeared that means EVERY CONTENT on this site is MIS INFO?? What a conclusion…

    This website presents an alternative to the ridiculous news coverage that the TV presents. It' honest and let's you think for yourself.

    Stop trying to degrade this work. If you don't agree with some of the things – that's okay. But don't be blind and try to blind other people.

    • I think people should face their greed and how it affects environment…

      Of course the elite is so righteous it does not have greed..thats why they'd rather bring the population down.

      But in reality, ever since the Reformation the resources have been getting abused.

      The source of that is a spiritual affirmation, which is distorted Christianity, that once 'I believe, I am saved' (what about deeds) and therefore can do as much as I like to please myself in this life. It is the basis of Western ideals which nowadays is pampered and directed by Jews who rule the West and whose god is money. They have the finance and they run it.

      Prior to the reformation the world existed for thousands of years, and the environment was able to balance itself out, yes there were damages done but never to such an effect, not even close!

  28. Wouldn't it be easier to starve people and/or deny them medicine rather than poison them?

    Back in medieval England women were so underweight that they could not conceive. And of course disease kept the population low as well. If people hadn't meddled with science and mother nature we wouldn't be in an overpopulated planet.

    I'm not saying that we should return to the dark ages. I just think that all the NWO spouting "Leave space for nature" are a complete bunch of hypocrites.

    • I'm thinking the Catholic Church new the real reason as to why the Black Death was spread. They discouraged cleanliness because that combats disease. It was an early form of biological warfare.

    • I totally agree , a lot of people are shallow, sexulized , fat, zombies! They care more about Big Macs and cable tv than they do about the future of the planet that their 5 kids will have to grow up in.

    • "deny medicine" and "starve people" is already well on its way. Starvation in Africa and selling swine flu vaccination as HIV vaccination to Africa. They couldn't just destroy those millions of doses, had to make money out of it.

  29. “Since the monument’s erection on March 22, 1980…”

    March 22 = 3.22 = 322= skull and cross bones.

    Have you researched ley lines and the location of the guide stones?

    Keep up the good work!

  30. @Duro

    You want a answer for the meaning of existence/life?

    If you ask someone what the biggest component to a human body is most will say, Water, wich is correct but what im looking for in this case is Cells(skin cells, blood cells, bacteria etc), they are living organisms that assist us in life and "we" are their god in a way. so for them.. or well for us its fairly easy to say what their meaning for existence is, its to care for us.

    if you look at humanity in the same way what is the meaning for our existence? well its to care for our planet, for nature, for Gaia what ever you want to call it. its not hard to see our planet/nature as a living organism that we are to care for.

    its a interesting process of thoughts do if nothing else.

    a funny side note a cancer cell is a normal cell that have become "egoistical", kind of like humanity have become egoistical and a cancer on earth(look at pictures of cancer cells clusters and human cities and tell me there is no similarities :D)

    i could go into spirituality and higher consciousness(aka god) or shared subconsciousness but not sure how much outside of the box you are comfortable to think.

    bah guess this will get deleted due to derailment of the topic… but owell

    Kind Regards


    • @ Mets

      Who created your Gaia and all the little tiny cells? Let me guess, yes, of course, Evolution, Mother nature. We have to serve to her. I think that would be your answer. But I don't think so.


      • What a wonderful "out of box" thinking you shared! I really liked the comparison of cancer cells with the cities!

        Thanks for some refreshing thoughts and reading among some sad comments only bubbling about killing the world population, etc.. as by my understanding- its more abut the birth control and .“We believe that each human being has purpose. Every one of us is a small but significant bit of the infinite"

        Whoever disagrees… can take a look at our water reserves and not panic about The Georgia Guidestones:-)

        Happy wishes and best regards,

      • If we delve into the science of birth control as a good & righteous process, well look again.
        Most of our pills simply cause the fertile cells to detach from the uterus, thereby forcing the abortion of the unwanted, unplanned fetal tissue which IS the Child Within.

        Sex is so beautiful an act it must be held sacred. Learning to control our sexual urges must be part of any good society or world.

  31. God is the author and finisher of our lives and of this earth… These people will never do what they intend to do, they will die trying! The world will remain the same!

    • I agree, 'cept for the evolution of societies, as we are in flux, hopefully growing in goodness. As our Day comes closer; as the Morning and Evening Star glitters, We will be growing in sanctity ready to welcome the DayStar with oil in our lamps!

  32. Love them or hate them, as far as population they're right. If you've never heard the issue of overpopulation you've probably never been to a metropolitan city. Humans do pollute and to accommodate our species millions of other species of the different kingdoms of life have been wiped out and many are critically endangered, and there's nothing they can do about it, they're just animals and they don't know it's our fault.

    I don't think killing people off or giving them misleading vaccines like Bill Gates said is right, but people do need to open their eyes. So many children are born to parents that won't or can't give them the care they need and then what happens? A lot of those kids go on to be a burden to society, in gangs, in ghettos. Parents have children, teach them to hate and then guess what? More war! It cost around at least 100K, probably more I'm guessing to raise a child to adulthood when you consider food, shelter, medicine, education, clothing and everyone of those people will require their own home space, farmland for their food to grow…

    I'm not defending such radical ideas, forced depopulation or saying rich people deserve children more than anyone else, in fact poor people probably need them more to make sure they have someone to take care of them in old age. Just that in the last 200 years the population of the world has gone from 1 to 6 billion people with increasingly long lifespans and in the age the Bible was written there were probably less than 100 million people in the world, perhaps less than a a dozen million, most of whom probably died before they were 50 – whether you believe God actually commanded be fruitful and multiply isn't the issue, it's that circumstances have changed. Nobody needs to still be having like a a huge bunch of kids like Adam and Eve did.

    If it were up to me people just would get this and not do it, people actually seem to have more kids in terrible conditions, like ghettos, in overcrowded countries, but maybe that's just because of lack of education of contraception but idk.

    • I live in Nevada which is almost all desert land. If where you live is over populated then come live here. The world could support maybe 100 times more people if the resources were used correctly. All the people dying in the third world countries are because the ruling class are hoging the resources.

      • Overpopulated? Let's focus on numbers.

        It's said “the gigantic structure is almost 20 feet high and is made of six granite slabs”

        I’m just starting to read so i don’t know if this will be said after in the article, but I bet that 6,66 meter high…

        Which would be, for the less, very meaningful…

      • In response to "almost 20 feet tall" being something like 6.66 meters,

        here is the conversion. 6.66 meters = 21.850 393 701 feet.

        Nice try.

      • lol – pffffffft. That definitely isn't the first time christians have tried to change around facts to fit a point their trying to make. I actually went today and saw the guidestones live and in person. They are only about an hour south of me. They are magnificent. Even the vibe of being in the same area is one of peace and reason. They sit on top of a hill in the middle of no where, and do nothing but make sense. All the conspiracy theory and NWO and cult talk is all complete crap. If anything, they are designed to be used in the event that everything in our world is no more. The church falls, the economy, human populous is low. It's nothing more than a set of rules to rebuild the earth with. It doesn't call for the mass extermination of 97% of the worlds population. Quit reading in to what is there. They are meant to be taken at face value. Secret society's dont build blatant monuments, but they do drop clues that can be found hundred of years later. Hence the granite.

      • Nick, as I can't "comment" below you I'll simply do so next to you. I suggest that if the words ring so true to you then take its sage advice and do yourself in. I mean, golly, take the first step and be a leader and not a follower. You don't mind do you?

      • I couldn’t agree more. The only reason that the world seems overpopulated is because many farmers and people living in rural areas are being driven into the cities in order to survive (access to better jobs, income, etc.). With companies like Monsanto destroying the effectiveness of continuously reproducing crops (i.e. terminator seeds, for instance) and making it more difficult for farmers to support their families living on even just a few acres of land, they are forced to go to the metropolitan areas where they have a better chance of making ends meet. I actually watched a short video on this today and how this is going on in Mexico and really hurting the farmers there. My first thought was that they are doing this to herd everyone into the major cities in order to better round them up during martial law or any type of government takeover. Makes them easier to control when they are no longer able to fend for themselves.

      • I've heard in the past about seed manipulation…I wasn't certain of the validity of it..Why are Human Beings so destructivly greedy?

      • Fantastic point Patrick who wrote before- this earth was created by The Creator for us all and its resources are abundant and plentiful for all to share. Share- thats the key poiint. The Elite are behind creating poverty, manufacturing disease and debt and it all serves to push forward their ultimate goal of world domination. They dont want to share with anyone least of all the Untermenschen of society- the Profane as they like to call us. They have hijacked the environmental banner in order to drive their evil aims forward. Many ecologists and scientists have come forward to debunk their claims on global warming, overpopulation etc. Do the research its all propaganda, If there is instability and injustice its because we've allowed it to exist, we do need light, order and guidance but not from Lucifer and his cronies. We need guidance from the One who created all of mankind and sent messengers time after time after time to remind us- yet we are told in all the sacred scriptures that man is ever-ungrateful and rebellious and ever willing to follow the Devils call. They have used black magic to gain position and power havent you watched them at Bohemian Grove worshipping an owl? They are the ones who are poisoning our water supplies, food chains, experimenting with creation. There is enough for all, but there's not enough for them. ultimately, this is a fight between forces of Evil and Good they wish to pervert goodness and replace God-consciousness with their brand of morality and ethics which has nothing to do with any 'age of reason'. They've done quite a good job of that so far. Creating war, manipulating economies, markets, education, society the list goes on.They wish to destroy mankind and pervert nature which is exactly what their leader Lucifer has instructed them to do. Thankfully those with faith have the comfort of the knowledge we have been given by our Creator, esp those of monotheistic religions about the coming time of the Anti-Christ. We are dealing with one entity in reality- when we refer to the Illuminati or the Elite or The Freemasons- they are all the one same group. The AntiChrist has been prophesied to come and will be released on this earth to cause much destruction but we will win in the end. However it requires us all to wake up and realise, take responsibility and ask ourselves which side of the fence are we on. This is a test of our faith or lack of it and we are suffering because of our inertia and apathy. It's taken a long time but now they have reached a point where they have almost succeeded in eliminating faith, subverting goodness and slowly bit by bit people have come to forget not just God but themselves and that is why they're now laughing in our faces to the point where they are confidently advertising their aims and agendas in the open. you can see it everywhere in everyday life- people are switched off, disconnected and thats with all the technological luxuries we have. Why? Because we've forgotten wo we are and where we came from and where we're going. And them? they're arrogant and think we're all asleep and hey, let's face it they might be right..but rem this they WILL fail. THAT is God's promise.Peace.

        "La verdad padece pero no perece"

      • Christine Northern on

        Yeah, just a few days ago I read a statistic that said redistribution of just 2% of the world's grain would solve world hunger.

      • "The world could support maybe 100 times more people" 

        You can't be serious. 700 Billion people? Sure there is lots of open space, but humans already use a majority of arable land for food production. How would humans increase food production by 10000%? And where would all the usable/potable water come from for these 700 Billion people? 

        If you look at the facts, at today's population, there are already looming shortages of water and some types of food. Many fish stocks are seriously depleted … what would happen if there were 100 times as many people?  

        The issue with overpopulation is not where to put all the people … I admit there is a lot of open space left on the planet.  The issue is the resources necessary to support such a massive population and have it be sustainable. 

        Also, with 100 times the people, the average standard of living would probably be less.  And there might likely be much more chaos, war, famine, social unrest, etc etc. 

    • the world is not 'overpopulated'. The entire world population could fit in the continent of Australia with every person getting an acre apiece. You've obviously never been to Indiana, Iowa, or Nebraska if you think the world is overpopulated.

      If it is overpopulated where you are…move.

      • You guys don't understand, it's not just how little land you need to theoretically put all the people in the world, resources and waste by-products are also an issue. Look at Brazil for instance, HUGE country, right? Almost the same size as the US in area, about half the population. But the ecosystem down there isn't the same, so for them to have farm and grazing land for their cattle they need to cut down and burn the rainforests for land, which results in extinctions, damage to the environment and can even change climates. Not all of the world is has nice, people-friendly terrain, there are deserts and permafrost out there.

        More people need more stuff, both that stuff and those people need land, for homes, factories, whathaveyou.. The more people there are and the bigger the need for space and land means more competition -> Prices go up plus we have to take more from nature, so more creatures go into extinction, the face of the Earth is changed and pollution goes up.

        Moving from place to place doesn't solve that, in fact that is behaving like a virus (did you see the Matrix)? We should keep trying to be less wasteful.

      • There are plenty of resources on this earth to sustain the human population and plenty of land to share. If those resources are only used for basic needs and not wants. However, at our current consumption of those resources, most posters are correct, the resources will not last. We in the civilized world, eat food for pleasure not soley for sustenance and we consume resources for pleasure not solely for survival.

        In our efforts to live our lives in the system which we were born and programmed into, we are stuck thinking it's the only way to live and that to live happily we must have MORE, MORE, MORE. Consumption is the path to happiness. Of course men in power cannot rule and cannot profit unless you believe these lies and reach beyond the basic necessities of food, clothing and shelter to live happily.

        So in reality, in order to maintain rule over the populations, we cannot run out of resources because someone needs to control them to profit. In the most simplest of terms, to rule others simply control resources, and create demand for the resources you control. If you are growing, gathering and hunting your own food and living in harmony with the earth, no one can sell you anything above that unless you think you need more to live OR if they prevent you from doing so through rule of law or other devices. Back in the day, Kings of old prevented peasants from hunting deer on the King's land. This is a simple explanation of what's going on today.

        To bring a civilizations to its knees, create demand for materialism, flood them with an ample supply of materialism then they will forget how to get what they need on their own.Once they have forgotten or you have prevented them from being self-sufficient (or both), take everything away (without them knowing who took it away), watch the panic, the fear and the desperation as people starve. Then come out of the shadows with the answers and they will bow.

      • We DO understand, you are just a selfish, murderous little ayusshole serial killer with a genocidal streak, Amore? Also, please do the world a favor and change your name because your viewpoint sure as Sheol (hell) not about love, sir or madam. Argue otherwise and get schooled. You are welcome.

      • No… they do not need to 'cut down the rainforests for grazing' … Corporations tell you they need to do that to keep you/us dependent on them…

        90% of the WORLDS resources are owned by 2% of the WORLDS population… that is why you think there is 'scarcity' … the remaining 10% is divided up by the remaining 98% … do you see???

        Check out "confessions of an economic hitman" on Youtube if you want to understand further…

        It is like "The Matrix" but WAY more than you know so far…

      • Agreed.

        The overpopulation debate is a myth, just like global warming is. I do believe there are problems with how we live with nature, but it is not because there are too may humans. It is because there are too many Metropolitan cities. It is the social order that they (the elite) so praise that is the problem. Humans wouldn’t starve if each one of us had their own land, and new how to properly maintain such lands. However, each one of us having our own land would mean less workers working in factories, and they (the elitist/slave master complex) don’t want that. I remember a quote that once said from a capitalist back in the 1800’s (I forget who) that said, “If workers had land to tend to, they will be too occupied to work the hours needed in the factories. ” Wonder why the Banks make buying land so unaffordable, and attach interest rates and taxes to it? Well, they would rather have people in cities or next to polluting factories instead of being self-sufficient.

        I would have to agree with some of the Rosicrucian guidelines as far as living with nature and not continuing to live having such long, unhappy life cycles. However, I do not and will not support mass euthanasia and selective breeding to achieve such results.

        I do believe that if humans could stop putting such emphasis on money, which in itself is unnatural and limiting to human potential, and instead go back to basic bartering and communal growth through clanships and reciprocity, then human sustainability could be achieved. Along with the limiting of destructive technologies, and going back to more biodegradable technologies, we could all live happier lives.

        The point of the matter is that scarcity is manufactured. No human being is born with the intent of stealing someone else’s resource, or greater, committing global genocide. However, through the social mechanisms that we are all indoctrinated under, we are led to believe through fear (either loss of life, or loss of power) that the pyramid system is the way to go. Essentially, you are taught not be the “alpha-dog” – you must be the alpha dog, all the time.

        By the notable freemason and Rothschild supporter, Charles Darwin, “survival of the fittest” was the only way to live. However, it is important to recognize what “fit” in nature really means. Nature has proven that “fit” really means “those who are most adaptable”, and most able to “endure”. The Globalist Pyramid system actually does none of that. In fact, it is the least flexible and the most fragile.

        If one leader becomes inadequate or corrupt, than everyone suffers. Because it is fragile, it continues to stay in power the only way it can, by destroying and manipulating those, which threaten the system – Like a snake or a cobra, thus the reptilian symbolism. The pyramid system never looks for new ideas, never grows beyond its borders or matures. It treats every problem like an incurable cancer, always opting for amputation rather than a cure (which what this guide-stones declaration is – an amputation, rather than a cure). It is destructive by nature, and thus the reason why we have so many wars in the world. In fact it is really the opposite of democracy – Minority focused instead of focused on the majority.

        Borders in fact constrict human integration, along with constriction by tolls and taxation on travel. Every other species in the world eventually has migration periods. Human once were know migrates as well, but now with borders, tolls and restrictions to travel unless you are very rich, those important migration routes are stifled. Peoples who once traveled to more plentiful lands when their lands went arid, are now stuck over-irrigating and farming the same lands, even during dry seasons (a major reason for the continued suffering in Africa, and the tribal wars… because of the unnatural borders forced on the people).

        It is unfortunate that humankind is stuck in its belief that the earth and the universe are scarce, because it is not. Compassion is the only in scarcity, because FEAR IS THE NORM lead by belief in the state, which will continue to LIVE AND WORK THOUGH THE PRODUCTION OF FEAR.

        If we want a change, we must change our internal beliefs.

      • Well TBH I doubt most people want to go back in time like that, technology and progress move ever onward and most people say there's no going back, even as we make computers that may someday make Matrix-like dystopias and the, depending on your view, not quite as bad transumanism a reality, but progress isn't all bad. Even now we can communicate over possibly thousands of miles in a fraction of a second.

        I wonder if people would work in electrical and heating plants for free. Greed is evil, but it gives people incentive, just look at China's first communist policies. The country suffered because it wasn't good enough to work for China just to help.

        A system of feudal land might still spark fights between greedy people, clans might fight and there still wouldn't be unlimited land just to give to everyone eventually if people kept reproducing crazily, not to mention what it would mean for the Earth, ecosystems and other species. I'm sorry to poo-poo all over your pleasant, well-written theories, but resources ARE finite.

      • Resources are finite, energy is infinite. Everything is creation, including ideas are made from energy. If you run out of one form of energy, you transfer it from something else… however, that is getting a little technical, which I won't delve into at this time.

        Humans can and have lived with less technology, especially if they can find happiness in more spiritual pursuits. People keep confusing TECHNOLOGY with HAPPINESS, and that is wrong. You can not live a material life. ENERGY does not transfer that way. America's ideal of a good life is to have all the thing they WANT!, with want being the key word here. Well, even with all the material splendors in the world, with no one to share it with or life long experiences, you will not be happy. You won't.

        And more responsible technology is possible. For starters, we can create technology that doesn't pollute or is planetary responsible, i.e. recyclable or bio degradable. You can have technology that is easier to build and would need less specialization, meaning a family or a small group of local people who would have the means to build items with out having to wait for a shipment from CHINA or somewhere just to get that tech.

        Also, in terms of money. MONEY is not a motivator. Money is a means to an end. I need more food, (I need to have money to get food (in today's society). I need shelter, (I NEED money to get shelter). In fact, humans have proven on a historical basis, that their best cultural works are usually done without money, and many are accomplished as spiritual works or at less then their recognized monetary value. Just look at the works of Michangelo or Leonardo, whose greats works were sometimes done with no compensation or recognition at all until many years later. The designs of the Incans and the Mayans were done for spiritual reasons, or for the nobility of such peoples. Some of their great works were also done for the public.

        Part of the problems of labor in a capitalist society, is that laborers can never put a proper value on their labor the same way capitalist can put a value on their product, because the physical and spiritual output of a laborer can never be exactly quantified. This means that usually, laborers will always be working at a loss. It is this inequality, which makes ultimately capitalism and "MONEY" or "CURRENCY" bad, because you always will be working (and living) at a loss.

        Bartering is better, even though slower from an elitist and statist perspective, because there will not be a set value for things (and thus a monopoly on trade from a currency makers point of view). One persons junk, will be another persons treasure. This theory has already been proven on craigslist, where people have traded up from something as small as maybe a ticket to game, up to car or bigger. And they are already groups who have dedicated time and research proving they could live without currency.

        I am not saying that everyday without money will be a utopia. However, spiritual and moral factors will again become the guiding force behind living, instead of vanity and waste. Charity will never become taboo, because reciprocity will be at the forefront.

      • your one intelligent person. definitely the same way i see things also.

        people laugh, but if you look at how cavemen or earlier civilizations lived and then compare how we live now, its generally all the things that they didnt have then that we have now that are corrupting and fracturing society as opposed to 'evolving' us in a positive direction.

        ie. technology, processed foods, hard working conditions etc…

      • Wonderfully said. I completely agree…the reason we denounce spirituality and place importance on materialism and vanity are exactly the reasons most people can't conceive of life without current 'technology', and in my opinion it's because we have been geared to think this way, and societies fabric has been woven with these ideals…pushing them subtly over many years, it's very much the same as the demoralizing of humanity.

        People also say to me that technology is how we are developing and where we must go in order to evolve, but why is that apparently the most important way for us to evolve, or develop? Surely there are many more positive things we could spend our taxes on than weapons or the development of robots and Ipods?

      • peptopinkboots on

        Since everyone is agreeing with you, I want to add some dissent to the conversation.

        I completely agree that we need more morality and spiritiality in our society and in our world. People mindlessly consume goods and entertainment, instead of caring that their neighbor is being foreclosed on, and their society lacks leadership. We need to get off the couch and *work for* the kind of future we all want to see.

        Along these lines, we must remember to foster the growth of technology that can *help us* reach our goals. With improvements in energy, we can light every home. With improvements in intrastructure all persons can have clean, potable water. With transportation improvements, we can bring food to every hungry person. There is no reason why we cannot feed and house everyone, no reason why everyone cannot work for a living wage – except the world is controlled by people who think they can buy it, and people who let them (the business people, the politicians, and us – who do nothing to oppose them).

        The human population is already declining in the "first" world, and is estimated to peak at 9.2 billion. Meaning, after this peak, it will plateau or decline. We do not need to start finding ways of killing people off in order to save the earth. The people who promote this view want to save the earth, all right – for THEMSELVES and their kids ONLY. What we need is to protect sovereign governments, worldwide so that we can develop our nations and trade with each other fairly. The good of the people today and in the future must rule our priorities and decisions – not money and empty promises of power. For this we need better technology, truthful education, and an active and committed population to police the government, which will otherwise work for the highest bidder.

      • I concur Ian, the very technology that everyone is looking to as a status marker to somehow establish the evolution of humanity is actually being used subversively to enslave us.

      • goldeneagleseth on

        Unfortunately, there would have to be something as drastic as something that would cause a mass extinction of humans, because that's the only thing that could, "bring civilization to its knees", and change the outlook and way of life of millions of people. You have to remember, we don't live in some fairy where everyone can just go the happy ending route and do the right thing, the foundations of the current state of society need to be broken first, before you can think about making a change like that.

      • @Appledanger

        I had yet to believe anyone thought as I, until you! An amazing piece to read. Keep spreading your knowledge and your wisdom.

        Thank you.

      • Something's Wro on

        I do agree to you a lot that this overpopulation story is just a simple myth. Also, there are too many people thinking that we need to depopulate, which is one of the stupidest idea I've ever heard. Somethings that you clear up are that every thing must be balance to nature and that people must never let someone step on them, like Martin Luther King Jr. said "Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed." Still, even there are some things in the world we cannot change that is the good(mass) and evil(elitist). *sigh*

      • thats true that there is plenty of space for everyone in the world and yes, possibly, they could all fit in Australia- but thats not the real issue.

        The real issue here is the way people have been educated and raised. Everyone has their own little problems that are either created by the government or self created and they are never able to ascend from them and look at the big picture of the world.

        If we all cared deeply of the environment and helping each other- this number of 6 billion would most likely be a fantastic thing because all of us would be working to make the planet a better place.

        BUT since greed and corruption rule since there are a few white men wanting to rule everything, and therefore keeping us all dumb to make us easier to herd like cattle- people will unfortunately stay dumb and not realize what potential they have to make the world a better place.

      • Again, that’s…not how populatiion works. “If where you live is overpopulated, then come live here.”

        You do realize that if I have -for example- ten people in say, Canada, and I move five of them the Vegas, there’s still ten people, right?

        Overpopulation =/= shuffle people around to areas with a less dense population. Admittedly, that would help alleiviate the strain on resources in a way, but the overall issue of overpopulation is still present.

      • well goddamn it theyre trying…i think "world overpopulation" probably refers to the millions of starving indians, ethnic chinese, africans, central americans, islanders, indonesions….you know, those poeple america tries so hard to keep out

      • acres in Australia: 1,882,431,500

        world population: 6,899,200,000

        I believe that works out to .3 of an acre…. You better hope your share isn't in a lake or the rocky side of a mountain. Please research your 'facts' before you post them.

    • Ummmm….people in the Bible lived for hundreds of years…I think the oldest lived to be 999 or something like that…. And why does it cost so much to raise a child? Think about that…who says what we should spend on our children, vaccinations? who dictates collegs costs, tuition bills and taxes?….. The only essentials I believe a human really needs is love, food, shelter…. Why have we forgotten how to sew our own clothes, grow our own food? Its so that we become more dependent on them silly….smh…. Imagine what the world would be like if we just handled things on our own… But atlas, keeping up with the Jones's and modern technology is more important….

      • Firstly there are some things you need to consider. A class I was in actually discussed this and we all agreed it would probably be impossible this day and age to live too far beyond 100 if you're blessed enough to even see that. Because, again, the world is not the same as it was back then. Today, to make our lives more comfortable we have factories and devices that create so many by-products that end up in our air and water cycle (Vigilant has an article here about how cancer is a "man-made illness" due to changes to human life over the last few centuries).

        Secondly, you need to consider the time of the Bible, medicine back then was nothing like it is now for one thing. Next, if you really take the Bible literally and believe it literally consider the wandering of the Jews, it only took 40 years for a couple of generations of sinners to die off, plus a year back then was measured by the lunar calendar, not a solar one like the one we use.

      • Hm. A topic to think about, that's for sure. But I'm still convinced that if God created us and gave us the blessing to have as many children as we please, then he's still cool with that. But there are a lot of things that got messed up after that blessing because of "The Fall"–Adam and Eve's decision (influenced by Satan) to break rules and "be like God". I'm know we abuse resources. But: 1) That original blessing was given at a time when both man and planet were perfect, and I would bet was designed to be sustainable no matter how many people came about, and 2) even though we no longer have those perfect conditions, God is very efficient and is still able to allow us to embrace his blessing while somehow ultimately using the mess we've made for his glory and the good of those who love him. I can't tell you how, but he is efficient in this way. This aspect of his character is shown all throughout biblical scripture. It's a dangerous and evil thing to take what God says is good and say it's bad and the other way around.

      • Very interesting discussion between Amore and appledanger you guys both make excellent points! i must say though that for the most part I sway towards the direction of appledanger, and this is only because of my faith in God.

        I won't be long but appledanger you are correctly adding in a much needed dimension to this discussion and that is that humanity is destined for chaos and destruction when he neglects spiritual matters. Most of our systems of government stem from a place of human ingenuity and are filled with so many flaws that only take time to manifest.

        Its like our recent economic crisis. Bankers creating a banking system that runs COMPLETELY on a thin wire. For wealth, materials and things of earthly gain. GREED.

        But I will add some food for thought here. Biblically speaking God has always been saying one thing to humanity."Know Me, embrace me"…this is what Jesus was all about: Man is limited in resources and power…God is unlimited in both.

        God is not forcing anyone to embrace him…he gives us a choice…as always…but life without him is one that always leads to death. We may think we are wise with our minds and our systems…but God is much wiser and his ways are better.

        What fear is it for God if man multiplies and fills the earth…under his guidance we wouldn't have to fear anything anyway because he's not limited. But in ourselves we got nothing…

        In ourselves would we create the idea of "Depopulation"…

        So as many times in scripture God is looking down on these tablets and saying: "sigh.. 'Age of Reason'…but you miss the one thing that can change everything…See God needs to be our reason…he made us for relationship with him…to be connected to him…like a fish in water, humanity belongs in God embrace.

        Capitalism like appledanger says feeds the wealthy more than it needs and makes the poor even more poor…someone always loses…this is not God's way…this isn't what Jesus was about…this is what is produced out of humanistic concepts

        These stones are like another tower of babel…a foolish monument to HUMAN ACHIEVEment… there is no true nobility here…it is filled with colorful words that make sense to the elite few who are filled with pride in their own wisdom while ignoring the wisdom of God….

        To sumerize….we can argue all we want but until we as a collective body embrace God we are lost in self fabricated wisdom….sounds sweet to our ears and hearts but it is death

        Embrace Christ peeps….

      • peptopinkboots on

        The type of Capitalism that the bankers love, the kind that makes them rich – the kind they pay money to universities to teach us about – is the kind that destroys. But Capitalism does not have to destroy anyone. Many years ago, there was a system called the American System of political economy. It was started by Alexander Hamilton, and had many influential followers like Henry Carey, Abraham Lincoln, and FDR. Use of this system is well known among real students of Economics to bring a society to prosperous heights, and it is the system the United States followed for over 100 years, before the last vestige of it was scrapped in favor of British-pushed free-tradism in the early 1970s. We can thank President Nixon for this. To learn more, watch this wonderful, informative speech:

        We live in a time of radical evil, as Chris Hedges said. We also live in a time of amazing ignorance. We must re-educate ourselves completely, if we wish to know how to save our civilization. We must not give up and descend into darkness. I see people today talking about wanting to return to a low-tech life, as if this is a solution. For some it may be, but for many others it is not. Without access to food and medical care, many people will die needlessly – particularly the elderly many of whom are our wisest citizens. Trying to eek out a living off the land while fending off criminals on your own is a very hard life – not romantic at all. Every man and woman for themselves does not work.

      • Thanks, just wanted to get the discussion rolling (and I'm satisfied with myself for having done so). =)

      • This is likely the wrong place to ask, but as an agnostic I have always wondered how Christians really know what their religion is about. Let me try and explain:

        After having spent 3 years reading Plato I left University and started at teaching school, where we studied the Bible, the Koran as well as the major theologians in early Christendom and what struck me the most was how similar the major religions seemed to what Plato had talked about. He likens the central philosophical principle, goodness, to a sun that shines so you can see the world. Almost exactly these words can be read in Augustine`s works when he talks about God, lighting the way through the darkness.

        Furthermore, for Plato the only way to transcendence went through doing the right thing, which again could only be achieved through knowledge. For Christians the only difference is that knowledge seems to be replaced by faith.

        If we add to this that the cross is just the ancient symbol for the sun, present in many cultures, as was crucifixion, it seems to me that Christianity is little more than a mixture of Greek philosophy, Jewish theology and the other mystery religions prevalent at the time such as Sol Invictus, which used many of the same sun-symbols seen in Christian art. In virtually every medieval painting you can see this sun-symbolism all over the place; in the halos of saints, in the light radiating from Christ etc etc.

        Which leads me back to my question: if God just means reason in the solar parabel made by someone living 350 years before Christ (and repeated by Augustine I might add), how does one go from this rationalism to the seemingly intensely personal God I get the sense is closely monitoring the Christians I talk to?

        I should also ask what Trinity, transmutation and a host of other theological constructions have to do with the belief in God, whether as a principle of reason or a interactive cosmological force of some kind, but this is already long enough.

        I don`t mean to be disrespectful to anybody, and I might ask some of the same questions of muslims, but it annoys me that I still don`t really know what people mean when they use the word `God`. And to be frank most people don`t seem to spend too much time trying to figure it out, which is also odd considering they`re presumably rearranging their lives when they join a religion.

      • To me, God is the ever-present force guiding my life. He is not judgemental in the Human way but allows for mistakes so that we might learn and grow..Compassion is how I would describe the presence of God for me…He causes me to feel compassion for situations OUTSIDE take note of the sufferring of others and to wish for/pray for a better situation for those folks (animals too) and if I happen to have the means to assist @ the moment, God is that voice which compels me to offer that assistance… God is Goodness. God is Compassion. God is learning and understanding. God is Forgiveness! Most of all God is Love!

    • I don`t think anyone is questioning that the urban centers are overpopulated, but what seems to always disappear in this debate is that for 4 generations people have been forced into these gradually due to agra-consolidation and land legislations. For 3 generations this excess population in the cities was used in the industries whilst we are lucky enough to now be economically useless, as well as driven off the land that could have sustained our great grandparents.

      If you ever leave the cities you`ll see a depopulated rural area in many countries, where only a few mega corporations now operate, as well as wilderness. Personally I live in Norway where a larger and larger % of the population now live in Oslo and the surrounding urban centers, while most of the country is wilderness, and this is much the case elsewhere in Europe, with a few exceptions like the Netherlands and Belgium.

      I would argue that we aren`t so much overpopulated as displaced sociologically. By all means there could be a meaningful debate regarding the capacity for food-production vs growing urban populations, but not when the debate is being conducted on Malthusian and elitist premises that always begin with the knee-jerk reaction that we must kill as many poor people as possible. They are wrong and they have been wrong since Malthus and before, but because of their power they are able to keep this topic skewed in public debate.

      My suggestion to the overpopulation/ eugenics debate is that we try some reverse eugenics and stick a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds in the sterilization vans before we stick more Indian farmers in them. By their own words the unfit and non-producing must be eradicated, which is the perfect description of these people and other elitists.

    • Huh? The lifespan of Man is Biblical. Psalm 90:10 "The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years…" There you have it. Mankind was living 70-80 years during the time of King David. He reigned around 1,010 BC. That's 3,000 years ago. As far as I can tell, Men are still living around 70-80 years. When I was a small boy I went to a lot of funerals. Most of the people were well into their 70's and a few were in their early 80's. Now the ages are much younger. My Dad? Dead at 59. Mom? Dead at 67. My aunt? Dead at 63. A beloved uncle? Dead at 65. These are four of the most recent family funerals I've been to. My friends and associates who have passed of late were much younger, some dying of cancer in their 30's and 40's. My point? People aren't living as long as they did 3,000 years ago, even with "modern medical advances" and "modern health insurance." The population reduction schemes are now in place. How old will you be when you get cancer? Or some other genetically degenerative disease? Oh, yeah, just forgot. My father-in-law has stage 4 cancer for the 3rd time. He's 65 and doing chemo. His cancer is inoperable. Didn't Vigilant Citizen cite one of the elites alluding to humans being as cancer? Hmm… probably just a coincidence.

    • I agree with overpopulation. People who have children but cannot support them should not be having them, simple as that. It's not fair to the child, to have to live without the basic essentials, (food, clothing, education, healthcare) it's wrong and everyone knows it.

      • How many holy or great or notable men and women throughout time were born poor? Are you saying they did not deserve to live because their parents might have been poor? You are saying only those of means should bear children? Have you thought through your stance on this issue?

      • If the money spent by the multimillion dollar industry of 'family planning' would be re-oriented towards poorer families to help raise their kids, if there weren't be taxes on diapers and baby clothes, if we wouldn't have to pay on vaccines, useless insurance policies, daycares and on all kinds of unreasonable fees, raising kids wouldn't be so expensive. But this was intentionally done to be expensive and I find it to be quite a paradox: we live in the richest societies of all history but we can't afford to have kids… as opposed to people hundreds of years ago who were real poor but had very large families. We can afford a car/cars, a house, a nice vacation, plasma tvs, stylish clothes and perfumes but NOT children. No. Not children. Why? Because having kids and raising them was always a sacrifice but now we're not willing to make anymore. And even if we do, we have them institutionalized most of their young lives in schools, daycares, camps etc. in other people's care. Because we want our time for ourselves and our needs. We live in the times of me, me, me

    • I agree with you. Why do people have kids they cant afford to have? Most of them cant even support themselves. And teen pregnancy, dont even get me started. The world is overpopulated and one day we are going to find ourselves living in "Idiocracy". Its a burden on the back of taxpayers and people who go out there every day to work just to find that 30% of their paycheck has been stolen by the government and to what? To give to the lazy slobs who sit around having babies and taking money from the government. How about we spend the tax money on birth control or just sterilizing everyone who is below a certan IQ, anyone is lazy as hell and anyone with 4 kids or more.

      • Would you still feel the same way if you scored below that certain IQ standard?

        Or how about if you suddenly just had quints nine months from now?


        Impulsive and rash thoughts are the most crippling.

    • so unless every acre of land is populated by a human being, you refuse to recognize that this world is overpopulated? look at the job situation! doesnt that tell you something? there is not enough work for everyone, because there are too many people and not enough money and resources. Good Lord, if you dont think 9 billion humans is way too much, you are just blind and ignorant. Maybe instead of people using their time laying on their backs and going around screwing everything that walks and having unwanted bastard children, go get an education, do something constructive. why the need to have 10 children with 10 baby daddy's is beyond my comprehension apparently. its disgusting and i 100% agree with the quote in the article made about people having children they cannot support is evil. it is evil and it is a burden on the backs of all hard working tax paying people like myself. people are selfish inconsiderant ignorant fools. maybe those people should be destroyed.

      • Hate Much? We pay taxes we shouldn't be paying and yes they support folks who don't work and have many children, but we allow this situation to exist. Let's change the way the policies are made..let's change the policy Makers First of All!!! This Earth is abundant, and if properly taken care of can provide for us all..if we Quit being so Greedy and Power Hungry and change the way we live as a society..focused more on Global and not personal prosperity…Things could change for the better! Just my opinion!

    • Seven Rayed God on

      Here's a better idea. Remove 100% of Earth's human population. All problems solved. Don't be selfish you know it's a good idea.

    • quote “If it were up to me people just would get this and not do it, people actually seem to have more kids in terrible conditions, like ghettos, in overcrowded countries, but maybe that’s just because of lack of education of contraception but idk.”

      Actually your assumption is correct – people in poor areas, with lack of education etc. do in fact give birth to more children. The cause for that is simple, its in our genes. Poor people, hungry people, sick people – their genes will tell them to get more kids to ensure the survivial of the species – and they lack the education to understand it.
      what we should do is, educate people better, so we avoid these mass accumulations of children in poor areas in the short run, and start sharing resources to avoid the problem even existing in the long run. Take all the funds that goes to arms and war and spend it on food, shelter and clothing for the poor and the “have-nots” wich it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded.
      also, people need to stop looking at that little box in the corner of the room that tells them what reality is – mass hypnosis is something we need to get rid of!

      Cheers from Denmark

    • That overpopulation is just pure crap and myth. The world is wealthy and big enough for its population. The problem is the sharing and immigration laws. So the weathies and the world governments keep the situation as it is, and prefer to call it a problem. Why go so drastic as to eliminate people ? Who are they to decide who should die ? God ????? What don't they just redistribute wealth and borders ? But clearly, that's not part of their agenda !

    • Do not get it twisted: There is plenty of room and resources for the world's population a million times over. The greedy want everything for themselves and their own families and friends, everyone else is meaningless and useless to them so they want to rub them out.

      Sidenote: Read a book entitled, "God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater." What are great book with a lot of social commentary and satire. The book discusses conservative views and socialist views, how the filthy rich look at poor people and beyond. It will open your mind to appreciate human beings for what we are, human beings.

      • Have u ever been to India or China? Brazilia? Ever been in a ghetto? Where so many species of plants and animals have gone all over the world? Oh, yes, the illumies are to blame for that. We are a gift to this planet and we are so innocent. When did u have a mental check last time?

      • goldeneagleseth on

        jerzotheking says:

        November 21, 2010 at 9:12 pm

        Do not get it twisted: There is plenty of room and resources for the world’s population a million times over.

        if we took up all the space available, what about everything else that we don't necessarily depend on to live, do we just wipe all that out

    • lol I'm pretty sure the people in the bible lived WAAAY past fifty….like 500? rofl Im too lazy to get my bible right now and that' the only point I feel like commenting on right now :)

    • Hmmmm….logical but not really. The problem is not about people populating the world….after all freedom is about choices and couples can have as much children as they want…(if this really is a free world). The real problems are the super rich and the greedy controlling the economy, amassing all the world's wealth…the selfishness and greed of this people that's why there is poverty. I have never known of a parent who do not want to give their children a better life, the problem is there's not much opportunity to earn a decent living. If there were individuals/parents who neglect their own children it is because maybe of alcohol or substance abuse [which was also because of the greedy super rich inventing drugs and alcohol for profit]…but if there is no greed there can be no poverty. This two have a direct relationship!

    • Overpopulation propaganda will aid in the justification for massive slaughter of mankind. Everyone on this planet could be given a quarter-acre plot in Australia and have room to spare.

      Like global warming, this lie is designed to compel you into ebedience.

      Rev 13:16

    • its impossible to prove overpopulation,i do agree we need more education on contraceptives,but also youve got to remember with drug deaths,murder,natural deaths,car wrecks,alot of people die from just that,its not as if humans live forever,i would also say eventually,hopefully more apartments are built,since they can have multiple floors,making it easier to have more people living close together.

    • I have to disagree with the over-population theme, my thought process is as such:

      1. Approx 7 billion souls on planet earth.

      2. Texas, USA consists of approx 700 billion square meters.

      3. A little math gives us 100 square meters for each and every man, woman, and child on the planet, while leaving the rest of planet free of people.

      So given the above, it's not a space issue and I logic tells me that the rest of the planet (untouched by humans) could certainly provide enough resources.

      Darwin equated man to animal, his cousin (or half cousin) came up with the term eugenics (not a popular term after the Nazi use of it), and now man is the problem (too many, global warming, etc.)….I don't know…something smells fishy…

    • You know what scared me in the document written in 1980s? The reference to the over-populated Haiti and Japan. I'm writing this note on March 15th 2011 when the two massive earth quakes have taken place in these countries. Just a tragic coincidence?

      • I'm with you on this Tina, when will Hollands turn come???

        This conversation thread has gotten off the track a bit with the Adam and Eve thing I think.

    • Amore, you are the one who doesn't get it. Contraception, abortion and euthanasia are all branches of the same dead, black, evil tree. That tree is Luciferian and totalitarian. These practices are against God's will, His plan and for those who don't believe in God (miserable creatures) they are against NATURE.

      Wake up! Do you think that you can divorce sex from the very purpose of it? Or are you so superficial as to think that God created sex for us to console ourselves?

      Is the Roman Catholic Church the only church that gets this? Apparently it is the only Church with the truth.

    • Lets pretend the entire landmass of Australia was flat and fertile.

      You could give everyone on earth a quarter acre plot of land in Australia, with an area the size of Queensland left over. Not to mention the rest of the world.

      A quarter acre of land doesn't sound like much, but when you consider a lot of people live in apartments only a few square feet in size, it doesn't sound so bad.

      Overpopulation isn't a problem, mismanagement of the earth and its resources is the problem.

      The Illuminatus use their power to create the problem, then present you with their solution.

      People should realize that the reason so much of this information is being forced down our throats is because TPTB want it to be exposed. It's all part of the programming.

    • this is wrong. There is no shortage of land or resources. The problem is GREED. Do the math. Take the time to research the facts. Research who persuaded China to enforce restrictions on reproduction. This overpopulation propaganda is as flawed as the theory of evolution is. People, try researching before you buy anything They tell you.

      for instance: Every person alive on Earth today can all fit in Los Angeles, California if standing shoulder to shoulder. Or
      even better: Every living person on the planet can own their own 1/4 acre in Australia while the entire rest of the world is people free. And still there would be lots of Australian land left over…

      Cities are full because people are drawn to other people. People thrive better with neighbors?

  33. And the flu stot was recommended in kids under age 5 until last year. For saftety reasons. But now it is for everyone 6 months and up. Seniors get a quadruple shot. Looks like soft kill is speeding up a bit lately…….noticed the chemtrails lately?

    • Yes, everyday, early in the morning its relentless, and people think your nuts and its simply jet trails. I know an elderly man who died the day after his flu injection. You get to know the good doctors when they are not for it. How can your unvaccinated child be a danger to a vacinated kid at childcare. Look at the rates of aspergers and autism globally. No one goes unvaccinated anywhere. Sometimes you just want to scream at people and tell them to wake up, saying that though a lot of people are mentally unstable in this invisible war, and may not be able to cope with the truth. They have us fighting one another now, with every generation seperated philosophically. I wish people would not consent to their diet, injection and injunction regime.

    • Yeah, on one hand it sounds really valiant and no doubt the person who wrote them were incredibly skilled, but it also sounds like they're gonna tell people what religion (theirs?) to follow, what language to speak, who can have kids and when or maybe they'll make use of the human genome project to make what some people call "designer babies".

      Fairness, truth and nature sound good, but half of these sound a bit dark.

      • InChristwelive on


        That's the Enemy's M.O….give us sugar with a bit of vinegar. It's called deception.

        It sounds good but has an evil intent.

        These people don't care about us. They decided these things without the involvement of the very people it affects.

        What makes them think they can rule over us, because they have money? Shame on them.

        There's nothing wrong with being wealthy but check your heart.

        Does your money have you or do you have the money….

        Oh and God's mandate is not to keep information from us, He want us to kknow what's goin on, however the occultist – they want to keep things mystical….oh please…" a man who knows something knows that he knows nothing at all". The psamist says with all your getting get understanding……

      • Guidestones has Ted Turner's name written all over it. Overpopulation was a huge subject back in the '70s and early '80s and Turner was and is Captain Planet.

  34. hi,

    it could be another cunning secret society thats infiltrated all of these previous secret societies…now seeing how far they can push it…with world domination..!…but since we're talking about universal intelligences handling matters here….fuck these occult occultists….I go with the rastafari & sufi maxim…sometimes we need to visit the depths of hell to realize the depths of heaven on earth and the gift of life!!.. but interesting info ..thanks..!!

    • At least someone who is skeptical. This sounds like Hell to me. It does not make sense. Re-education camps? Mind control? They are pushing these things on us, right now. Some are fighting back.

  35. Wouldn't the elite be just the normal if that is all what was left of the population? If they rid society of 92% of all the others then there is in essence no more societal standards and a world full of elite only. Since the beginning of time there have been different classes in society. WIthout these classes there is no longer a society at all and that is like communism. Very interesting article.

    • DryBonesMcJonez on

      No, they wouldnt be "normal" because they are, by nature, evil, pedophile, rapist, psychopathic, swine.
      They think that they are at the top of the pyramid, and they can just wipe out the 'useless eaters' (this refers to you) when they no longer 'need' them. What I find absolutely hilarious, is this: the one at the TOP of the pyramid (Lucifer) who they serve, who gave them their 'knowledge" and 'power"… are you ready for this?
      Is going to burn THEM when HE doesn't need them anymore…. but here comes the "quandry" (beautiful word)
      THE MOST HIGH is going to burn them all…. this armageddon they refer to? the one they are deluded in thinking there is an "alternative" to? I'ts going to happen. They made a deal with Satan, and right now they are shitting their pants, because they are running out of time… they need to destroy humanity, that's their end of the deal, and they think that Lucifer will ascend to the heavens , defeat THE MOST HIGH, and give them eternal life…. They lose HARD either way, Satan will give them eternal life, burning in fire forever… don't you get it, you IDIOTS (not you) you are fools. You WILL get what you were promised, eternal life. In the lake of fire.
      Praise be to the most high!!!! because it will be HE , not Satan who grants you this reward for your deeds.
      Enjoy, fuckers. I get it now! I KNEW you wouldn't get away with this, it all makes sense now, GOD has a WONDERFUL sense of humour, and yes, it's mean! (but only if YOU deserve it)
      Oh I LOVE it!!!

  36. Great work.

    I love the detail and the observations are spot on. Setting aside the concepts of good and evil, let me provide a perspective.

    Governments as we know them today are a mere experiment of control and predictability. The move to a more united and structured world has been in place for centuries. It was obvious to the adepts of history that a world fractured in terms of thought and behavior had no chance of successful forward momentum.

    The basic structure is taken from nature and the evolution of related systems. The systems evolve to their natural perfected states at which point the related system merge to form a “super system” which then advances beyond the limitation of the original individual systems. A natural progression of any emergent system(s).

    Communism, Dictatorships, Socialism and even Democracy (and others) are test cases and points of study, all created and initiated by the same societies.

    • In many ways Democracy provides the most predictability, especially when infused with material pursuit.

    • Dictatorships are simply too repressive and the potent greed drives men of small intellect to their eventual demise, degrading the quality of life for the common people.

    • Communism has shown the limitations of control of information until the populace can no longer sustain the knowledge that they are suppressed and a revolt begins. Providing everyone with the “same” of everything works great as a mathematical formula but the pragmatic application is otherwise.

    • Socialism with an infusion of democracy works best for population management.

    Please consider predictability = profitability, if so, the richest nations on the planet are x, most predictable.

    If you want to understand what the world will look like 200 years from today please review the findings of both the positive and negative results of each of the aforementioned systems. The positives will be implemented and the negatives discarded.

    The momentum of this progress is not subject to the approval of the masses, there will be no voting. The process has been set in motion a long time ago and nothing can detour this process, it is not up for debate. Revolt has been factored in and will be dealt with the same way other dissidents have been dealt with in the past. It will not be the authorities who will reprimand the dissidents it will be their own peer group, guided by a new system of belief which is focused exclusively on living within a resource based world society. It will be the natural rules of resource management that will provide the guiding principles by which the common people will live.

    Deviating from these rules will result in increased education about the issue until the desired mindset is achieved. Obviously there will be groups which will deviate from this point of view and these groups will be allowed to exist until they fall out of favor with the participants. The machine and mental technology of consent is precise and consistent, it will outlast any group as it follows the natural course of any emergent biological system aided by centuries of learned behavioral management.

    The concept which troubles most individuals (that are aware of the new system slowly being implemented) is one of concern of freedom. Freedom is a concept and most people who believe they are free are not. This new system will “feel” no more or less free then your system feels to you today. The changes are made slowly over long periods of time and most people simply do not look at the long timelines, they are distracted and their focus moved to another location. As this generation passes away a new generation of earth loving environmentalists will be in control of the resources and laws, within a few generations the system will be complete and a uniform mindset will prevail. One people with a singular goal: preservation of earth, humanity and space exploration. Contrary to popular belief, religion will be allowed but the influence of religion will be of a hobby or entertainment, it will have little to do with population management. The new “real “religion” is at one with natural laws.

    • You're going to be right there with them, skippy! you and your big brain… you'll be one of their 'chosen'
      I can just tell, by your obviously superior 'intelligence' You do have one thing right: There is a NEW WORLD coming after this….. and don't you worry or fear, your'e going to be in it, probably generating completely clean energy, because in the new world, you won't get assassinated for developing 'clean, free' energy.
      These people you worship are the same who have shut down anyone who has ever developed, or presented a viable, renwable, clean energy source which would take us off oil, they have also engineered every war on this earth, profited from slavery, and created 'religion'. Very clever lil' idiots!

    • Old School Liberal on

      You sound intelligible/authoritative but I'd like to ask you how this new authority is earth loving if they currently use current government and military to wipe out populations and gain control over resources which are just consumed for profit in turn to acquire more political power to do the same. And an unlearned person can see the trend of corporate consolidation . How will these or this new ruler resist being a dictator? Using my best judgment and foresight, I conclude this is a ruse coming from an age old set of principles that have been so amoral for so long that they are devoid of discernment though brilliant in intellect. A good description of a beast, or purely carnal thing, thoroughly unspiritual since it sees no authority but itself. I don't anticipate any "benevolence" from that mindset lol.

      • Old School Liberal on

        I just think you're resentful that there will be an astronomical destructive cataclysm that you have no control over. And you are trying to repackage this resentment and market it to humanity. Take your appointment, you've obviously chosen a "natural" way to deal with said phenomena. I sincerely wish you good luck. I think we will all need it. You still have the option to choose blessing to endure whatever curse. This is just a respectful suggestion that I imagine would seem unnatural and impossible for you, but all things are even still possible with God.

      • The entire ThoughtThink seems rational; I remember as a teen I considered the unity of all peoples under God. I considered one world government (non theocratic).
        What I do not believe is this misunderstanding religion as superstition. True religion is, like governments, each growing forward or dying.
        Another danger is the belief in the 'good' select few who will not form a Good World Order but an Empire of rich giants.

    • Right so what i don't get is if a major part is about population…wait let me switch it up so it's all academic and somewhat condescending

      It is incomprehensible that the same people, let's pat their narcissistic egos and refer to them as the corporate elite, who are working toward population control are the same "illuminated" people who put subliminal message of sex into the majority of the populations products including children's movies. The same people who say they stand behind the principles of these stone concerning "nature" are the same individuals who made themselves exempt from the clean air and water act concerning pumping chemicals into the ground through fracking. Let's put those thoughts about the environment aside for a moment and focus on another issue concerning their population control.

      Let's looks at their inability at efficiently playing God for the human race. What do I mean by this? They cannot see into the future to know who the next genius will be that might be the key to propelling the human race to advancement. So when they kill person A they may very well be effectively killing child B who may very well be a genius or have the motivation and ambition to create greatness.

      Now let's look at your actual words. "It will not be the authorities who will reprimand the dissidents it will be their own peer group.." Another way to say this would be, "a government by the people" which is essentially democracy. This supposedly was already put in place and accomplished already in the United States.

      Freedom is much more than just a concept. It is the means to be allowed to think in a different perspective from the masses (despite disapproval from such masses) and [follow the path] where the perspective leads to make new discoveries. It's the ability to try new things that maybe the general public doesn't understand and most of all it is the environment necessary for genius to flourish. The principles on these stones will destroy creativity and the exceptional and will simply embrace the mediocre because be honest the elite don't see individuals anymore they see as they have always seen people as "resources" themselves.

      Tbh I don't buy into all the consumerism, because ironically or maybe not ironically all I see now when I look at a Kellog's cereal box is skull and bones.

    • The guides on the stones are so intelligently worded so it would have the effect of making one feel ignorant in debating it. And that just goes to show ya how some super smart people can use intelligent rhetoric to convince the masses on how 'wonderful' these guides can be. But if you're TRULLY intelligent, you'll be able to read between the lines and the structure of each word and paragraph. A highly skilled magician can hypnotize a person into doing or believing just about anything they suggest…..purely by using 'words"….the placement of the words….the timing, the tone, even the rhythm in which they are spoken!!!….That's what they have done with these tablets. And they've done it in 12 different languages. Hey…..these guys a gooood!!….Mass Mind Control…..Germany even used it…it was called MK Ultra. The plans to create a mind controlled workers society have been in place for a long time. The current technology grew out of experiments that the Nazis started before World War II and intensified during the time of the Nazi concentration camps when an unlimited supply of children and adults were available for experimentation. We've heard about the inhumane medical experiments performed on concentration camp prisoners, but no word was ever mentioned by the media and the TV documentaries of the mind control experiments. That was not to be divulged to the American public.

      • chelsea, email me, or tell us more of this Mind Control by Nazis. Where can it be found?

  37. If you think about it, The "One World Government" is good, What they do to archieve it though…

    Thats the wrong part, But the goal itself is good

    • No, it is not good. If one world government were good, God would never have destroyed the Tower of Babel. Nations exist for a reason.

      • The Tower of Babel was destroyed because slavery was used to erect the monument and the leaders felt that they were making a tower to heaven to be among the gods…God saw their arrogance and confused their speech and understanding.

    • LiNcK – no. The goal is bad, because it would give far too much power to too few people (and who would choose them?) And – 'Power corrupts. And absolute power corrupts absolutely'. We need a diversity of countries, each independent, not least for people to have somewhere to run to. Empire has always been 'their' goal, however 'they' spin it …

      • So instead of a few people with absolute power, you'd rather we have many people with absolute power?

      • you are missing the point, an authoritarian world government has unlimited absolute power and there will be nowhere to run or even organize against it

      • Give more power? You talk about power they already have. We need a diversity of country? For what?

  38. Paul VI stated in Humane Vitae that the widespread acceptance of contraception would place a "dangerous weapon… in the hands of those public authorities who take no heed of moral exigencies."

    I propose that what the world sows, this it shall reap.

    In the coming times humankind will have to reap the evil fruit of widespread contraception, abortion, infaniticide, divorce, infidelity – all the rampant impurity and general trampling upon of the 10 commandments. The New World Order is a rise of evil which was allowed to fester and will unleash its fury upon a people who no longer have faith and have given themselves over to evils and in fact no longer much recognizes evil at all.

    Human society is more wicked than prior to the Flood – so just ponder for a moment what is coming….

  39. hudson_girl_80 on

    My thoughts exactly! I always wished it would be time for Christ's coming because I am ready to get all this nonsense overwith. I'm tired of being afraid of what's gonna happen next and I know that the Bible says that we shouldn't live in fear but when we are constantly being reminded of the bad things to come it's hard to stay calm.

  40. Hm… It is possible that the Guidestones are just a diversion for the masses. After reading the pamphlet it struck me that either the people behind the Guidestones and the world puppeteers are not the same, or they are the same but they try do disguise themselves as something else. And here's why:

    1.The cabala that rules today's world is not atheistic. It is very religious, pantheist and satanic, and worships almost openly the devil and the ancient deities. Look no further than their buildings, their cities and all other sinister places described in this very site. Then where is the pagan paraphernalia in this case? Where's the eye, the pyramid, the pillars, the horns, the deities and all? Also the occult wants to rule by force, fear, war, famine and plagues. But the people who built the Stones seem to be an atheistic group who believes that “Human beings are special creatures and (…) shepherds for all earthly life" which is in total opposition with today's leaders penchant for war. The Stones builders even condemn military spending: "This (n.n. birth control) could be done with a fraction of the funds which the world now devotes to military purposes".

    2. The 'Stoners' say they are a "small group of Americans" whereas the occult leaders are many and all over the world.

    3. The Stoners believe "each human being has purpose. Every one of us is a small but significant bit of the infinite" whilst the cabala believes we are just disposable pawns on their checkered boards.

    4. The Stoners say "Without us there is very little of love, mercy, or compassion" while the cabala doesn't know the meaning of this words. See what they did in Africa, Latin America and Asia where whole countries are sunken in hopeless misery by their ruthless ruling through the stringed puppets that are strategically positioned in power functions to serve the interests of their masters and their own.

    It seems that the people behind the Stones are a minor masonic group of (as they may see themselves) 'responsible' humanists, probably an older generation of thinkers who couldn't adapt to the new orientations and who try to warn the people of their world's destruction.

    It is possible though that the stones are a diversion or an alibi for the surviving leaders to mislead the future generations that somebody else, not them, a 'small group of americans' was behind what's about to happen..

    P.S. Anybody seen 'The Killing Room' movie? Maybe you should.

  41. Poverty, pollution, and ignorance are a product of what has been in control since the beginning of the industrial age, or perhaps even farther back. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. What should be guideline one is to abolish those that currently rule and abolish those who control current wealth, NOT DEPOPULATION. We cannot help but purchase and consume what "they" put on the shelves. We cannot help but fuel our cars with what "they" provide. We cannot help but listen to our doctors who were taught by those in control. They have failed us but more importantly, they have failed the planet, either purposely or naturally. Their masks are unveiling more and more everyday and whats behind it is not human. The Age of Reason should be deemed the Coming Age of Humanity, a time when we humans take our way of natural living back.

  42. I love your articles VC but I think these stones are not written by the occult. Unfortunately there's a big problem regarding overpopulation. Im not saying killing people is the option but more awareness and research, opening up will help. I actually agree with most guides on the guidestones and think they are lovely.

    I love nature and dont see we are better or higher then any other living being including our mother Gaia the world.

    We shouldnt be so afraid to die and let nature do its work more instead of keeping us as long alive through medicines and such.

    Our souls never die. We are spirits having an human experience.

  43. Where in the world have you been hiding, It has aready be done. The government has already been poisoning our water, food, air, our pills we take all the above. you just don't pay attention to what is happining around you.

  44. Hi,

    This is bullshit these elites are trying to do. I mean if you are going to be wasting money on how the depopulate the mass why don't you use that money and educate the mass. The majority of these people who they have planned to kill are the POOR PEOPLE!

    People this is an important message I want to spread. You need to reason and by reasoning you are going to develop your faith. Not everything in the bible, in the church and other religion way of getting info. is accurate. You need to reason and chose what is right for you. In today's world we are living, everything is business even Church! Don't be blind!

  45. The words of the authors contradict themselves. First they say that everyone in this world has a small but significant role in maintaining the earth etc and they then go on to talk about 'unneeded' children when talking about controlling reproduction.


  46. i really don't see anything wrong with this.

    New World Order actually makes since, we have become a virus on this planet..spreading from one corner of the Earth to the next. How can we neuter animals to keep our population down when we are the one overpopulating?

    Nature came before us, it will be here when we are gone.

    • illuminati_is_annoyi on

      I find it funny in a disturbing way, how some people view our rocky planet as some living being and we're supposedly the virus.


      The Earth is not alive. It is just a floating rock in the space. Like Mercury and Mars and whatnot. The Earth will not care if you save nature or not. It's not like the Earth will suddenly expand and become this huge amazing planet with a happy face if we disappear.

      I'm sorry but when I'm outside looking at the birds and trees… they don't seem to care about the presence of the humans. They seem COMPLETELY INDIFFERENT to us. We are NOT A PROBLEM. There's enough space and food for all 7 billion humans AND MORE.

      Humans are very intelligent. We COULD try to find ways to populate other planets… we COULD try to eliminate all cars and pollution and just go for walks, etc… help the environment……. but NOOOOO, instead we're poisoning ourselves until we are almost all extinct! Depopulation is not good, in my opinion!

      • the earth is not alive? this is such a stupid statement. not the illuminati are killing us, the earth is shaking us literally of her back. when an earthquake destroys your house then ill see you saying "the earth is not alive"

      • illuminati_is_annoyi on

        @ tina

        When I say the Earth is not alive. I mean the Earth is a rock, not a living person. Why are you trying to argue this fact? The Earth is a rock, just like Mars and Venus, etc………. that's all I was saying.

        Earthquakes are the result of tectonic plates moving around and whatnot. The Earth is NOT actually angry at anybody and trying to get any humans off its back.

        I don't believe humans are ever a virus/disease to this planet, that's the bottom line.

        There are solutions to problems like pollution… depopulation is NOT a solution!!!!!

  47. I think who ever built these monuments wanted to be like the egyptians and others before us who left markers. They couldn't hold the secret in 25 years without raising hand " oh we made those " ! We are still trying to figure out what ancient monuments mean, how they were made, made by who, and most have stood the test of time. Here you have these clowns can't hold water. These guildstones have been up 20 minutes and the code is already cracked, solved and sealed & explained. The part about wiping out over half of the population sounds bad. The rest don't sound as bad, but guess what? I know how the " word play" thing work. They used pretty words like unity 2- guide reproduction wisley. Sounds good but note all these rules come after the wiping out of most of man kind. So while most are jumping on board these kind hearted rules most likely don't apply to you, you think ? Besides these are destructive words dressed up all pretty. Don't fall for it now. We have came too far ! Shame on you all for feeling like most deserve death. What, are we elite now ? Now all of a sudden we feel we are included. Don't be suprised when death is at your door, and not the poor person, or the lady with 10 kids you thought deserved it !

  48. Here is an excerpt from the fifth edition of Foundations of Macroeconomics by Robin Bade and Michael Parkin, a required college class I'm taking:

    "Classical growth theory predicts that the clash between an exploding population and limited resources will eventually bring economic growth to an end. According to classical growth theory, labor productivity growth is temporary. When labor productivity rises and lifts real GDP per person above the subsistence level, which is the minimum real income needed to maintain life, a population explosion occurs. Eventually, the population grows so large that labor productivity falls and returns real GDP per person back to the subsistence level.

    "Adam Smith, Thomas Robert Malthus, and David Ricardo, the leading economists of the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries, proposed this theory, but the view is most closely associated with Malthus and is sometimes called the Malthusian theory. It is also sometimes called the Doomsday theory.


    Seems like this theory will grow further in acceptance with the world economy in a recession. I agree completely with Kidtruth, the Bible says "Be fruitful and multiply." I think the Republican party shares a lot of the same beliefs.

    Thanks for another excellent article, Vigilant. I refuse to be a sheep led astray to the slaughter.

  49. Excellent article V.C.. Truly professional..

    I'm gettin me a t-shirt with that picture at the end of the article on it..

    Every single day of my life, i am continually amazed at how f****d up the world really is.. and absolutely gobsmacked at how blind the majority of people are, to what's really going on around them.. i too "refuse to be a sheep led astray to the slaughter." (damn right 'openedeyes'!!)

    V.Cs articles should play on loop to the masses.. V for Vendetta style!! (watch that film if you haven't already) Talking of which- that film speaks the truth.. but it's directed by the same people (the Wachowski brothers) who made he illuminati-ridden 'The Matrix'.. .

    Can anyone shed some light on that?…

    God bless America (and nowhere else) <—- indeed..

    P.S- Obama is a joke.. Rapper 'Lowkey' for Prime Minister!!

  50. Isn't it obvious? Only God can create life. Satan cannot. The elite know this. Hence why they say "Armegeddon can be avoided" in the guidebook. They mean God winning in the end. If this happens, they would be completely screwed if resources are depleted.

    Satan cannot create life, so they must push cloning, stem cell research, and transhumanism. They must also promote depopulation in order to save resources, as they are not God, and without God, these cannot be replenished and recreated.

    God is the master of all, and he would never leave this Earth devoid of anything. If you believe that, then you believe in being fruitful and multiplying. And you would also believe that this Earth is big enough to sustain life beyond the billions already here.

    • Just wanted to clarify that Armegeddon=God winning, and by avoiding Armegeddon, they are implying Satan would win. And if Satan won, they would need resources and the ability to synthetically create life.

  51. Thanks for the article. It was very informative and quite freaky! There is no such thing as over population! The first time I heard this term was when I was in elementary school and even as a small child I knew in my heart that this wasn't true. These people are very evil to say the least!

  52. That pamphlet is very sad. Let me try and look on the bright side though. These stones were created more than a decade after man first walked on the moon. Perhaps we aren't talking as much about depopulation as we are about migration to other worlds. Maybe those authors were sick and wanted depopulation. However, if fear of a boogie man is what propels humanity to embrace the universe as its inheritance and start moving into the heavens, rather than hiding on this one rock, then the effect is not such a bad thing..

  53. I actually don't find anything bad about it, except for Number 1, of course! But they don't seem to be pushing a NWO, or at least in a bad way, like other elite groups.

    What's the bad in being all together as one, since we are brothers and sisters?

  54. Overpopulation is not the problem. There's enough space and resources in this Earth to fullfill every human's basic needs. The problem is the greedy,selfish,power hungry "elite" hiding in the shadows of every goverment world-wide. They want control over all the resources in this world. To do that, they have to get the leader of that country to let them. If they refuse, they are either blackmailed or bribed(ex Saudis). If that doesn't work, there's an assianitation (ex, Jaime Roldós Aguilera). If that doesn't work, there's military intervention that forces the poulation to acccept "democracy" while installing a puppet goverment that will never think of sayng no to the big guys (think Iraq, Afghanistan, Panama etc). If the country doesn't have a stable goverment to begin with, they either purposley cause conflicts withtin the country, or introduce new never-ending dieseases ( Africa!).

    While doing all that, they decrease the population size which helps them get rid of those who are in their way.

  55. These people believe that passionately in depopulation? Fine… Then they go first. Where do they get off thinking they can sacrifice OTHER people's lives and families in the name of THEIR OWN beliefs? Start with yourselves, a$$h*les!

    • Illuminati_is_insane on

      Stupid Illuminati guide stone people :

      "Be open-minded, everyone! Open your mind! This is the destiny of humanity : 95% of all humans must disappear from Earth! This way, the grass will be able to grow a lot! The grass and trees everywhere will reach the sky! Please accept the illuminated and important 500 000 000 number! There should never be more than 500 000 000 on this planet! If we have 500 000 001 people, the universe will be very angry! The Illumination of the masonry will fail! It will be so horrific!"

      This makes no sense whatsoever. Not even a little bit. A DISASTROUS MESS! These secretive elite people are all psychopath idiots of epic proportions. They KNOW they are crazy. That's why they secretly poison us year after year. Can someone not talk some sense into these groups of people? Somebody has to destroy the Illuminati new age Baphonet cult religion, whatever you call that mess.

      • They are drugging us, that I am confident of. I usually like to buy organic food. I opened some plain organic yogurt and made a bowl for myself and my daughter.

        I tasted funny. I've noticed that alot lately. Food does not taste the same, not even Organic. I ate it and immediately felt sedated and weird. My head has been fuzzed out ever since. My daughter started acting really strange and unusually compliant. She then proceeded to fall asleep for three hours. I noticed the same taste in the applesauce I bought from the store. It had that same weird taste- cant expain it. Food just doesn't taste the same as it did.

        I suspect that their plans have moved full steam ahead in recent weeks/months. Do not become complacent, this is real. Do not fall asleep.

  56. It isn't overpopulation that is the problem. It is the current utilization of resources. Like someone else said, Satan takes what God made beautiful and turned it on its head. Do you really think God had pollution, mass agriculture, sodium lauryl sulfate, fossil fuels, and capitalism in mind when he said be fruitful and multiply? If we functioned as God intended: to whom much is given much is required….instead of to whom much is given hoard as much as possible and kill of the competition..cut costs by creating it in the lab with no thought for people and the environment……….the world would be a much better place if we loved God and each other. If we loved each other we wouldn't overuse, overeat and ultimately abuse our blessings (I mean think of how much waste goes on at a buffet in the perspective of hungry children in India….Somalia…..)……

  57. I'm torn on this. I won't lie, their, albeit vague, guidelines sound appealing. Man living with perfect balance to nature? Enough resources to go around? Everyone achieving what they need spiritualy? It all sounds good. But obviously, they're just that: vague enough to potentially be turned against people. I'm half with this, because it makes sense, and at the same time, I don't agree with the methods that would be employed. This doesn't sound like it's coming from people who love everyone and want peace on Earth. All I could think about was some dystopian future as predicted by countless authors in the past. So, well played NWO, well played. But some of us just aren't convinced. The power of love must triumph over the love of power, and I don't think this is how it's going to happen.

    • That's how evil always works. Pure lies are rank and won't pass the smell test. Only a few are fooled by them. Half-truths, however, are very deceptive. They are easy to believe, and people want to believe them. That's what makes them deadly.

  58. 15th Nov. City of the Lion in the Low lands.


    Interesting. But Holland is not overpopulated. I should know cause I live there. One more crack in all these theories or myths. Of course by this I am going to have the vigilante army all over me like a SWAT team. Saying that I should wake up and not be a sheep and all those kind of things. Do not worry by dear fellow brothers. I will keep following the crusade against the Illuminati. And grow wiser and wiser. Or not. Cause in the end the real freedom is in the emptyness of the mind. So I am not going to make an religion out of it. And responding to the vc-army who will be accusing me that I am the one who is empty. Cause tomorow I could die. And what has happend to my spirit then? Am I realy free? All this will go away and end. Everthing ends. Except the spirit.

    But what is interesting is that in my country the Freemasons don't have to pay taxes anymore on gifts. Cause legally they are now charity. How is that for a conspiracy?

    Ohm mani padme hum.

    Ohm tare tutare tare.

    Ohm shanti.

  59. Morris Townson on

    Consider reducing population through responsibility, birth control and laws.

    30 years ago in Thialand women avg. 7.3 children each. The Gov't started a national campaign to introduce birth control and heavely promoted condoms. Today, Thialand women avg. 1.5 babies and the rate of HIV Aids is one of the lowest in the world. This can be done all over the world.

    Also, If a parent proves unfit, abusive, neglectful her/his rights to have more children are removed via sterlization.

    Have a baby out of marriage before the age of 24 and you will be offered a choice of A. welfare to support you and your child like we have now if you get sterlized or B. no welfare and no sterlization. That would cut way down on the ignorant masses in the USA having littlers.

  60. Omg, I live in Georgia and I've never heard of these. My mom is from Elberton and we still have some family that lives down there and even she has not heard of the Guidestones. But the next time we take a trip down to Elbert County, I'm gonna definitely try to persuade her to take us to 'em.

  61. cerion the beliver on

    sometimes you just don't know what to believe i think seeing all the miracles happen at to do in my life is enough proof that there is GOD but to say that THE NWO want control of me and everyone else is just plain sick \\ GOD gave us choice of freewill and that's why we do what we do but saying some group of business men want to tell me what to do and controlling my life is really crazy ….

    KAM pls let everyone believe what they want to believe.

  62. so bill gates and them all promote abortion and depopulation but its societies like the rosicrucians who seem to be the ones who are responsible for a uneducated increasing population. the out of hand pop culture, media and entertainment in america makes a rapidly increasing population inevitable. the dumbing down of societies through poor education and drug influence all condoned by the elite is never truly spoken out against but then on the otherhand here are some other elite's saying they we need to kill everybody. its strange how they operate. we overthrow governments and then do nothing to support this ever so important role in the u.s. or internationally. Jay Z is allowed to earn degrees with the freemasons and bill gates and obama are also freemasons but obama supports planned parenthood and jay z supports young kids all over the world watching rihanna dancing half naked in her videos. are rosicrucians on board with masons?? Is there a battle of traditionalist and modernist in the occult world???

  63. Even with all this data Vigilant worked so hard to compile, it’s still hard to believe, not that it’s Vigilant’s fault. These secret societies have existed for thousands of years, operating, studying, planning and meeting in shadows and even now they communicate with the rest of us so cryptically. This is where reality is less believable than fiction.

  64. I_do_not_agree_with_guidestones on

    Why should humanity be maintained under 500 000 000?? Why not 589 857 756? Or 3,4 billion? Or 5 867 845 904???? Please explain????

    Oh, humanity must rise to a higher consciousness and travel to an infinite conscious level in another dimension called Planet ExtraterrestrialAlien… we must not destroy the plants and trees or cut the grass and keep a conscious balance… we must prize the love of the infinite power of the consciousness and universe… we must think of the non-existent future generations who count on us to murder all things on Earth and illuminate the globe with important things!…..

    Excuse the sarcasm, but come one.

    The small group of people who are responsible for these useless guide stones are arrogant, deranged sociopaths that need to stop having these outrageous, insane ideas.

    I am going to choose to see these guide stones as nothing but strange “art” and hope that it never actually happens….

    And if any person insist that their are too many people on this planet… they should obviously be the first ones to leave! They can maybe go to Mars or Venus or Andromeda……. What a joke.

    • Illuminati_is_so_ann on

      Why don't the elites try and find new technologies to take us to other planets!

      How about that???????? Let's invent instant teleportation!! It's take us to other planets thousands of light-years away, instantly!

      But nooooooooo!! The elites prefer to murder everybody else except themselves!

      What a huge joke.

    • Reveal The TRUTH on

      Well said, I_do_not_agree_with_guidestones.

      If the population is too big, then the elites should go first. They have known and been planning the NWO for years. They have been meticulously setting this behind our backs, and now we have proof! We can see this with our eyes. Enough said.

      Well done VC, again for such an amazing and eye opening article! Dont listen to the people that criticize your work. You are doing an amazing job!!!!!!

  65. I constantly ask myself how will people stand for the coming tribulation period. We know enough or read enough that would warrant us to question what is going on…right? We all come to websites like VC in search of factual information and truths right? And then I come and read these comments and out of 127 comments I would guess that only about 25% see the Guidestones for what they are just another symbol to join the followers of darkness. And I remember that many are called but only a few are chosen. No one will leave this earth not having heard the truth and one day you will see that you not only were given the truth but were among the few that seek out answers and facts and were suppose to spread the word. Not everyone can stomach the cold, harsh truth as well as mentally understand the information and the scrutiny that comes with it. Thanks to VC for another informative article and too all who are fence straddlers…one foot in the truth and the other out, rationalizing ideas of depopulation and why its so great. You are the reason these plans of NWO will take place. You are no more different then the people who are completely blinded to whats going on?

    • I can't believe that there is so many comments agreeing with depopulation. It's slightly funny to be honest. I don't know how much longer I can visit this site. Who knows what kind of lunatics are lurking. They are talking about killing kids! Then they are pointing fingers like " oh kill the poor people, kill the women with several children, kill them…." like they are part of the elities now. Like they are not targets ! I agree with you on the " one foot in truth and the other out" Thats how it goes tho. I'm just hoping some live and learn ! This is ridiculous. I never thought i'd see the day. I know the elites themselves are amazed like " damn they agree with depopulation" Ol well I think it was too easy for the elites. That has to take most of the fun out of it. If I was the elite I would quit, straight throw the towel in. To decieve people is one game but to actually deal with the dumbness is a bore. I think they over did their job smh mankind ! This was too easy for them !

      • I wonder how many Bible reading, God Fearing Christians supported the slaughter of men, women, and children in places like Iraq and Afghanistan. I was surprised by how many "Nuke em all" comments I remember hearing from the right wing Christians over the years. Depopulation sounds horrible when it is about you and yours, but when it is "The Other", it doesn't seem so bad to some. Not to mention God does a pretty good job of mass murder on his own….earthquakes, tsunamis, pandemic diseases…

  66. this is a sad article. it tears the human soul. its like follow this pamphlet nd live a better more well controlled life, or fight it and keep the war goin?? its so hard to know what exactly to believe in.and what the nwo is realli tryin to say, what if theyre motives arent bad??what do they see that makes them want to depopulate us?? what if we need to be stripped of our free will to come together? but if we lost our freewill we'd no longer be humans…its just so hard to fight them back now…

    • If you doubt that these ideas are hellspawn, you need only look at the Book of Revelation. Everything they want to do is in there, along with what will happen because of it and how they’ll lose.

  67. what a bunch of nuts. you people are on here speaking on this like you're talking about a football game. it's all in revelation though. if you want to believe the bible is distorted or not,i was blessed enough to interpret what the book means and this illuminati, masons, bill gates, is nothing but satan fooling you. all the people (including me) that will be MURDERED!!! will (i pray for me) stand proudly, praising our lord on judgement day. and people that believe in this will be trying to hide in fear. amen

  68. Todayhasalreadyhappe on

    Technology is the key, there is more than enough resources for everyone and more on this planet, if the problems are addressed the correct way. Energy is already abundant, free, and clean if we were allowed to use it, see secret energy patents the government owns. With our advances with genetics and robotics we have an infinite supply of food. If we stop destroying our water there is plenty for us to drink, since every last drop is eventually recycled anyway. The rate of our knowledge increasing gets faster and faster every day, and eventually it will have to hit a point of evolving instantly. We just have to survive the greed driven tyranny until then.


    FUCK THE NWO!!!!

    And I really don't like using the "f" word, considering I am a Christian.

    But that's EXACTLY how I feel towards it.

    • Now I’m no authority, but the way I see it, there’s nothing wrong with cursing things that are evil. It’s not like the person took the Lord’s Name in vain.

  70. The thing is, these societies are trying to give you an impression that they are so powerful and absolute. Thats how they like to see themselves. But they're not – at all.


    Because they are sided with satan spiritually, and that is done consciously.

    But satan, just as any evil, is not absolute. Spiritually it is nothingness because they are denying God. Evil is absence of God but is not outside His power as a separate self-living entity.

    Goodness that comes from God is wayyyy more powerful than anything positive these people lie about. It makes me sick when they talk about 'humanity', 'peace', because its FAKE they don't care about it!! Its a giant lie they create!! Makes me sick to my stomach, that hypocrisy..

  71. Ok, so guess which part of the equation the ruling elite would be on…that 500,000,000 who get to survive, or the billions who don't? There's your answer to all of this globalist nonsense right there.

    Notice how they say very clearly here that human beings reproducing without guaranteed financial resources to raise those children is evil? So, consider this – how many of you out there really think that any of our parents knew for certain that they had enough money to provide for your ability to live until adulthood at the time that you were conceived in your Mother's womb? I'm going to boldly guess that answer is less than 1% of us. All of us.

    As someone else mentioned above, Satan and all his helpers are very adept at painting what is good as evil, and what is truly evil as good and wise. It's very simple really, because it appeals to the greatest flaw we have as humans – VANITY.

    The vanity to think and believe that WE can do something – anything – better than our Creator. The vanity to take away God-given rights of our fellow human beings to reproduce, the most basic right that there is, which was not given to us by governments of men, but will gladlt be taken from us by such evil humans.

    Having said all that, I personally do not think it is a good thing when people keep having children irresponsibly with no way to care for them properly. That is why I have chosen not to have children. But again, if we really stop and think about how few of us would even exist right now if past generations had been foolish enough to tolerate some government regulations, as in Communist China, where us little people are told whether or not we can have children, and if so, how many, when, how and under what circumstances.

    The New World Order is evil, not loving compassionate human beings mating and having children. Global population control efforts by the ruling elite are not new, as Vigilant and I have made very clear in our articles, but these ideas have been repackaged and sold in many new subtle and deceptive ways to attract the faithless, in the "Green" / environmental / global warming, transhumanist, the gay rights agenda (I'm not against being gay if that is someone's choice in life, but think about the end result, srsly) and several other very popular movements.

    I don't want children, and I don't want to pay for yours. Fair enough? I also don't want any government telling any of us what we can or cannot do with our God-given earthly bodies. Period. It is quite revealing that this same principled argument is used by the ruling elite to justify abortions, yet it somehow does not apply to individual people who stand on those grounds for their right to have children, if they so choose. Once more, evil constantly inverts what is good to make it seem evil, and vice versa.

    It is evil for any group of human beings – big or small, rich or poor, young or old – to appoint themselves as the guardians and decision-makers for what is best for all of the rest of us who all share the same inherent rights to live and be free in the limited time we've been given to inhabit this earth during our fragile, yet beautiful lives.

    The pic of the "tagged" guidestone, screaming to the world "FUCK THE NWO", is beyond cool and profound.

    It made me laugh, and also very proud of whoever did it…because pretty much everyone have ever known would strongly agree with that sentiment. You mess with a person's children or fundamental rights to have a family of their own, then you are begging for a war.

    The famous American Revolutionary phrase, "Don't Tread On Me", is that battle cry – and it is about so much more than just owning land or paying taxes. It is about our most basic rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, including our most precious right to reproduce as humans (or not), and to worship God however and whenever we choose to.

    Reproduction is the giftfrom God that allows each of us to emulate, if even just in the most tiny and humble way, the awesome power of God – the Creation of life. It's the most beautiful and awesome thing known to our species. And, believe me, if we ever allow any government to decide for us what the acceptable amount of population or breeding is, then they will stop at NOTHING – and there will never be any limits on how they will invade and control our lives from that day forward.

    All is vanity.

    Thank you for another excellent article, Vigilant.

  72. "Now we can foresee the impending exhaustion of those energy sources and the depletion of world reserves of many vital raw materials."

    Who discovered that SEX sells?? Let's use it to peddle our unnecessary junk to clutter this planet! Over population? How can they NOT take responsibility for that? Thx Freud!

    Which bring us to over population.

    IT IS NOT the central issue to the depletion of the worlds resources.

    How about we consider the wastefulness of the manufacturing sector that has made Wall Street rich. Destroying our forests and filling landfills with it's packaging. We only have capitalism to blame NOT population.

    Just watch the doc. entitled, "The century of Self".

    They feed the sheep via manipulation, create consumers, then blame the depletion of resources on the consumers they've created. I just can't believe how friggen efficient they've become at this mass deceptive plan.

    There are SO MANY FAILS in what the authors write concerning their goals for the NWO according to scripture I do not wish to bore anyone but they stick out like a sore thumb so I'll keep it to one.

    1) "The Infinite envelops all that exists, even struggle, conflict and change, which may reflect turmoils in the very soul of God."

    Definition of TURMOIL

    : a state or condition of extreme confusion, agitation, or commotion

    Answer… 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace…

    Lastly (AS IF)….

    "The work critiques institutionalized religion and challenges the inerrancy of the Bible."

    If I were to be numbered among these men, I too would challenge the inerrancy of the Bible ESPECIALLY what Jeremiah says in verse 16 of chapter 14…

    13But, "Ah, Lord GOD!" I said, "Look, the prophets are telling them, 'You will not see the sword nor will you have famine, but I will give you lasting peace in this place.'"

    14Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying falsehood in My name I have neither sent them nor commanded them nor spoken to them; they are prophesying to you a false vision, divination, futility and the deception of their own minds.

    15"Therefore says the LORD concerning the prophets who are prophesying in My name, although it was not I who sent them–yet they keep saying, 'There will be no sword or famine in this land'–by sword and famine those prophets shall meet their end!

    16"The people also to whom they are prophesying will be thrown out into the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and there will be no one to bury them–neither them, nor their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters–for I will pour out their own wickedness on them.

  73. Conspiracy Beliver on

    Oh my Lord. When my class took a field trip to some museum place (about a couple years ago), I think it just may have been there. I remember the fountain and even have a picture of it on my phone. And we even visited that garden place and there was an oversized chessboard near one part of the place and i think the point of that was to represent the masonic checkerboard pattern more than a game for you to play. I took that field trip I think in my 7th grade year and I'm a freshman in high school right now.

  74. Infamous AvantGairde on

    I enjoy reading Vig's website comments very much.There are so many thought patterns here just absorbing other selves's thoughts and ego's without filters.Your missing the big picture here.Earth is your school.When you decided to come here as souls you knew what was going on and what is probable for your life here.Yet you came.That tells you that theirs something that you knew then that you forgot now.

    You came here to experience,…to learn what ever your souls seeks.The difference between cosmic and comic is slim.This is a race that suffers quite a bit of karma.Do not let your past interfere with your present or else your future will repeat your past.There is a fight for you now.A great many dark entities are interested in you for there own benifit.These entities are truly beyond your imagination,they compare nothing to the things that you speak of here.Here you have a chance.In there grasp you truly do not.

    One serious issue is the thought that you are so special that one would focus more on you than another.One thing must be learned and that is love.The use of love in every day matters makes no sense.That is not love,that is selfish use/want of another selves energy and holds it higher than another. True love is infinite and you do indeed feel this love but it is not limited to one being but all.

    Say what you wish,think what you wish, it will be appreciated.But you must remember that your going to die regardless of how and when.And you will go back up and when ready come back down.So what if your physical body dies,…it is not are infinite not is a useful tool for learning and nothing more.Most of the world has not reached a spiritual maturity which will cause some misunderstandings.

    You are a cancer upon the earth.It is quite obvious.Think reasonably and look at a probably path if it stays the same.You will use all that you can use out of your planet earth then you will need to seek outer reasources.You will not be able to take care of yourself on your own.That is when the darkest of entities will finally show themselves to you.

    Another forbidden truth that should be known is free will.You Cannot get past it.It is truly governened by the most high and experienced of entities.They fluant symbols because they have to not because they want to.If they could get away with not telling you a thing they would and they obviously try hard to.Not letting you know is truly unfair and unfair is highly regulated.But if you know and still continue the same path theres not much anyone can do…other than you.They use tricks to get you to consciously submitt yourself to them using your free will to come to them.That is the trap that many have fallen into.

    There are many multidimensional entities dwelling here in many forms.Most you can't see.The selfish entities usually stay in there most powerful form which is the thought form.The selfless/indirectly selfish individuals come into the physical as humans to help you.Both are from That Which Has NO Name and serve That Which Has No Name.They serve to give pain and suffering which gives opportunities to learn quickly while the later only wish to balance.This comment is a tad bit long for me but I hope it will shed a new light.

    Also one extremely important note.There is a harvest and its happening now.There is an opportunity for entities with a high enough awareness to graduate into the 4th density where physicality is variable.Although many will have to repeat the 3rd density the earth is moving towards the 4th density.This will be problematic for most.For example when the earth was second density the Dinasours roamed and when it shifted to third density all those who wasn't ready just yet had to change physical form to continue there learning cycle.The requisite for second density graduation is self awareness.They have to learn that not just life around them matter,they do to.For third density we must choose To serve self directly or indirectly and do it wholly which can take some time and perserverence.Live life.Get what you want from it

  75. A great monument, beautifully crafted and nicely aligned with the heavens.

    Although I strongly doubt that it would be necessary to reduce human population to 500 million,

    what's wrong with the other principles listed there?

    All of them make sense.

    • People who created them have NO right or authority to tell others what to do or how to think about the world.

      I mean, they did't have the guts to sign their names!

      Why not, huh????

      So who the hell are they to dictate anything?

  76. Some nice sounding ideas there on those stones . . . we'll see why the Creator of all had them created. Perhaps an age of "reason" and a "rational" world order will make a nice contrast to an age of salvation and realization of truth.

    Taking some of Jesus' words at face value, those who desire to reduce planetary population will get their wish. The Placer will be limiting the coming days, in order to retain at least a little flesh on the planet.

    Truly, superstition is something to be avoided. Belief of truth is something to be welcomed. And rejection of truth, actually seems to have perils. The infinity of one, may be trash to another. What appears as superstition to one, may be unperceived reality of another. Who is to say which shall exist, and for how long? Who is to say who will live, and for how long? Who is to say who will die? Someone once declared: The soul that sins, it shall die. Is that true, or is it a superstition?

    Who is to manage because of competence, and who is to be managed because of incometence? Who destroys by peace? Who saves by war? Is someone truly able to rescue a universe and fulfill all its inhabitants? Give it your best shot. We enjoy seeing what you really are. And so will you . . . eventually.

    Is someone actually able to rouse a human out of the sleep of death, and then give it immortality? Is someone actually able to rouse a human out of death, and then give it a second death? Or are these mere superstitions?

    For the time being, Jesus is Sanctioner. The god of this cosmos will soon be dethroned, and the veil of deception lying over the human nations will be lifted. In the process . . . yes, the flesh population will be reduced, with some of it hiding in holes in the ground, longing for death and unable to find it.

    Are you desiring a rational world order and reduced population? It's on its way. And really, there's no need to reach for the stars. They're already ours.

  77. I agree with the comments about overpopulation and people taking out of want instead of need. I think we need to be resourceful with things. I don't understand what they want from us though. On one hand "they" seem to want us to consume consume consume and then on another hand it seems like they want to save the planet by getting rid of us. I'm lost! They should really figure it out. Couldn't we solve this better if they came up with better solutions and stopped encouraging our consumption? I mean that's what they are using the media for. I think they just want an excuse to get rid of us.Just one example here would be an alternative to oil. Yet that would take money out of there pockets then wouldn't it. What about hemp? That would take out of their pockets too. So who do we really need to get rid of first when the depopulation starts. People pushing the agenda…hypocritical Al Gore for instance. Won't stop eating his cheeseburgers (and that's just one thing he won't give up), but complains about global warming. Scientist say that meat production is the number one factor in global warming not that I even believe in that crap. Yeah, we should definetely start with these kinds of people. People who make things like the georgia guidestones.

  78. of course this is upsetting because these guidelines are basically telling all humans how to live, but dont you think this is a huge sign?? that something obviously is going to happen, and this is the way to survive from it. many people think otherwise because the whole NWO is against everyones comfort level. even I was against them, but AFTER READING THIS ARTICLE, something's bound to happen.

  79. Come on whats wrong with the other guidelines such as >>

    Unite humanity with a living new language.

    Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.

    Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

    Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Balance personal rights with social duties.

    Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.

    Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature

    I agree!

    • One language was crushed at the Tower of Babel.

      Reproduction is the most intimate of human interactions, and it is outside the purview of government.

      The others are not as they appear.

    • nature is going to be just fine. you ever heard the Lords Prayer? on earth as it is in Heaven? if you have to worry…let it be about wheather you will be around {your soul} to see the glorious Heaven on earth! do not give them your soul!

  80. According to World Population News service >>

    600,000 square miles of forest cut in the last ten years

    26,000,000,000 tons of topsoil lost

    88 nations classified by the UN World Food Program as unable to provide enough food for their inhabitants

    960 million illiterate people; 130 million children lacking access to primary schooling

    the world's population increasing by nearly 100 million people per year

    We dont hear much about overpopulation because most people dont want to hear it.

    As long as 30000 people (most children) die of poverty (no food en water) there's no balance in the world.

    • well dear tree hugging Dutch girl, I have to inform you that with a fraction of the money injected in the world fraud-perpetrating banks those children and all children around the world would have been saved from starving.. forever!!
      How come you can see the ant but not the elephant? You Gaia worshipers are so blind and deaf to human suffering that I don’t understand why you bring children into discussion as if you cared. For the likes of you children are no more than useless mouths and selfish plunderers of your ‘mothers’ resources…
      Studies that show we are too many are deceptive. In reality there is absolutely no evidence of that or even a possibility to estimate the number of humans the earth can sustain. As a reader before said it so well, ‘there’s enough for anyone’s need but not for anyone’s greed’. It is true that from their standpoint we are too many; it is also true that they cannot get any richer unless some of us go but why would someone like you accept this? What is in it for you? Under the pretense of the ‘humanity’s greater good’ ‘and ‘the preservation of the planet’ you are being brainwashed into accepting total control over your life, from the food you put into your mouth, the places you go and the choices you make to the number of kids you are allowed to bear. As harsh as it may sound it is because of people like you, unable to see where the danger lies, that our world is about to collapse.

  81. I know I'm part of the 92.54%, and I'm not scared because I know my Redeemer lives. God has appointed us to dominate the world, not ti dominate one another. NWO, in simple terms, actually means selfishness. People who believe in the NWO are actually thinking of themselves and how they want to enjoy this planet all on their own. They might think of it as this grand plan to resovlve the world's problems but its going to backfire somehow. If they feel that they want to eliminate 92.54%.

    The population they want to get rid of is actually the ones who are keeping this planet alive. I just wonder who is going to be president of those 500,000,000 people. Out of that 500,000,000 people, who is going to be willing to be a farmer, a caregiver, a cleaner, a builder, or take any of the so called petty careers because they will be regarding themselves as elite people. Like it or not we need each other. Everyone has something to offer this planet whether its big or small. If not, God would have already taken the so called "Cancer" a long time ago. But because he knows that we all have a purpose, He hasn't done so.A lot of fighting (amongst themselves) will break.

    I pray God intervenes because HE has the final say, not some mere mortal. Jesus was born in a manger, borne of Mary and Joseph. I'm sure they would have been ruled out as that 92.54%which needs to be eliminated because they were'nt rich. This means all possible great people who could change this world are going to be eliminate as well.

    The devil is ashamed of defeat so he is using the NWO to reduce the population so he can gain control easily.

    Even if they demolish us, it doesnt matter cos Heaven is big enough to accomodate all God's people. Why worry?

  82. so they will have their own religion (satanism), will control reproduction, will probably kill the oldest when the world reaches 500 mill +1, will probably kill someone having a baby without permission, let's not bring talk about if your child doesn't live upto standards, will be a world controlled by an organization that killed millions of people already, and most that are on here agreeing to this NWO are not really sure they will be within the 500,000,000. hilarious.

    well when our father comes back on judgement day to rid the world of the 500,000,000 elitists, and the millions that were murdered comes up out of their graves, REJOICING OUR SAVIORS NAME!!!! lol. god forgive me but what a bunch of spoiled, selfish, idiots (500,000,000 to be exact) lol

  83. Not enough resources? Stop eating meat. Livestock farming instead of growing human food doesn't make any sense if you want to stop world hunger. This is just one of many, very easy, solutions to problem.

    But it is quite obvious that there are great powers at work here – what the ruling class wants, the ruling class gets. And what it wants is clearly a depopulated planet. Thus the starvation continues.

  84. Someone mentioned earlier about it being easier to starve people than poison them, I'm starting to wonder if there's an agenda for that in Britain. Our island cannot physically produce enough food for its ever growing population – we have to import. But yet they still will not steady the flow of immigrants to the country, or come up with decent sex education for our rampant teenagers (fuelled in part by what they see on TV)

    What happens if one day we cannot import? What happens if there is a "disaster" which stops the planes, ferries and trains getting thru?

  85. Me from Colombia on

    I am afraid that they want to erase non europeans and non americans from this planet. Because they won't take anybody else in Bielderberg.

  86. Dear Raphael,

    We are using up all natural resources at a rate that in the future we dont have enough food to feed everybody. Also the economic and financial systems are going to collapse because they are based on consumerism instead of focusing on wellbeing so maybe thats good :-). We all can have a new start. I believe there's still hope but a lot has to change.

    You say that im being brainwashed into accepting total control over my life but arent we all a bit mind controlled by all the media trying to influence us that how you look on the outside is more important then listeing to our hearts? I choose to be different and we all have that choice. Im trying to follow my heart and do what i like to do. I choose not have any children because i feel i will be happier without. Oh and I choose not to watch tv…only some series :-).

    I think it's important to start having different values and not think that we people are the most important beings in the world. Every living being is just as important. You dont have to have children to be happy. I feel like nobody can really take control of you unless you allow it.

    Nature (Gaia) will take care of herself if it's necessary and if there's a overpopulation. Secret societies dont have to worry about that.

    • Dutchgirl you are already completely brainwashed and don't even recognize it. It's not natural for a potential mother to have no desire to share the greatest bond that any human could expereince through child bearing. As you stated, mother earth can take care of herself, but who will fill the void in your heart when you willfully choose to not participate in the most holy experience the creator gave women. You mihgt want to evalutate your thought process and find out if someone has been mining your mind

  87. @Amore …. You are talking poop! 'Overpopulation' & kids abandoned to druggie parents aren't even linked you maniac!! Really, take a minute to think about what you are actually saying here. You can say there's a problem with unwanted kids being born then abandoned because of circumstance BUT that is not 'Overpopulation'. Most of the habitable land on Earth is untouched by man. 'Overpopulation' is a myth, it is nonsense.

  88. I do agree whit statment that humans are cancer to Earth – in the state of mind that we are in now, taking every thing we want no regard for conciquences. We need to change QUICK

    • ..

      the way to cage in to educate in all ways. In sience, art, sports, ekology, belif, etc. we must eliminate religion, but not belif in god. There is way then enough earth for all of us, we need to stop beeing greedy, because we have more than enough of every thing (I'm from eu) while some strugle to find someetnihg to eat. We need a NWO but not one founded on fear and ignorance, but one founded on love, mutual respect, compation, intelegent, and reson.

      I'll sey just this:



  89. think about it the average amount of kids i think i head were 1.9 so ill say if everybody had 2 kids it becomes to much too quickly you have two kids each of htem have two kids (4) then eight then 16 then 32 so if our population keeps doubling we will be out of resources, space, eveything

  90. I don’t think the world is overpopulation I believe people are less then what they use too.

    Pets are more in homes the children are, 30% kids around 60% pets. Abortions killed millions of kids, kids that could be alive right now, plus the millions of kids die worldwide. Not only that adults and older people die every day. If you ask me, the population is getting lower. What scares me that unless you do your research the things you eat is killing people and food for animal really is just poison. The water not safe, the food isn’t safe, and the air isn’t safe. People are dying instead of living. The now talks about motherearth and nature but they don’t do anything about it. They could use their media more to help nature instead of killing it themselves. Then again their only want control.

  91. I don’t think the world is overpopulation I believe people are less then what they use too.

    Pets are more in homes the children are, 30% kids around 60% pets. Abortions killed millions of kids, kids that could be alive right now, plus the millions of kids die worldwide. Not only that adults and older people die every day. If you ask me, the population is getting lower. What scares me that unless you do your research the things you eat is killing people and food for animal really is just poison. The water not safe, the food isn’t safe, and the air isn’t safe. People are dying instead of living. The now talks about motherearth and nature but they don’t do anything about it. They could use their media more to help nature instead of killing it themselves. Then again their only want control.

    Just a normal person with two websites: and

  92. first, sorry for my english but im from a spanish speaking country.

    why, if according to the elite there is overpopulation, is so much money and energy invested in assisted reproductive technologies, fertility treatments, in vitro fertilizations, etc? (which are by the way so unnatural) wouldnt it be better to incentivate adoption? on the contrary there are so many obstacles in form of burocracy in regarding to the adoption process…. on the other hand, wouldnt it be better to improve the cuality of life of the socalled "poor" instead of trying to avoid them the joy of parenthood? this world is so upside down! i really hope these "elite" persons erradicate themselves for the good of all mankind an leave us alone. people, dont let them fool you, in this world there is enough for EVERYBODY.

  93. I am going to make this comment very simple since I am infected with the Bioweapon Lyme Disease(Pestilences Last Days: Matthew) and it makes my thinking very muddled although I used to be pretty intelligent.

    The Elite are falling into YHWH's hands. This has been prophesied in the Bible. God always makes his prophecies come to pass. He is the I AM who has shaped human history from the beginning so that we would know that he is God.

    For anyone to think that we as humans can stop these atrocities, or shape them in any way, they are wrong. This has been foretold from ages ago.

    This is all in the Bible. I bow down in awe. I cannot believe I am living in this time. The wheat are being separated from the weeds as we speak. The marking has commenced I am sure of it.

    Everyone who calls on the name of YHWH will be saved. Calling on him will bring one to understand that Jesus is the only way to have a relationship with God and be saved. Jesus is the way and YHWH is the only true God.

    In the final standdown, Satan's cronies will find that their "Gods" will prove to be worthless. He is putting figurative hooks in their (Illuminati and those who support them) noses. They are leading themselves off to destruction.

    Praise Jehovah that I am living to see this day.

      • Lyme disease is so hard to manage and treat trust me I have done the antibiotics natural stuff etc. Not everyone gets cured, that's a total myth. It is the most immune disabling disease I can think of with the exception of AIDS. I suffer, I mean suffer constantly. I'm at a loss how to treat it right now.

  94. Infamous AvantGairde on

    2012,Global Warming,secret societies,pretty much all fringe subjects revolve around one thing…Darkness.Many speak of light like they know all yet know nothing of darkness so you couldn't possibly understand the light.The answers that you seek are withen nature itself.It is the most feminine and nurturing aspect of That Which Has No Name.

    There are so many clues withen this site itself that can lead you to the light yet soo many do not wish to leave there comfort zone.Well then…let me help you.

    It is obvious that there are agents of darkness and light here.These Revolve around 2 specific races.Albido and Nigredo.Or Cain and Abel if you will.Albido has a natural insecurity of the most high because it is harmed by sunlight due to low to absent melatonin levels.While the latter Nigredo is full of melotonin and is protected from the light.As Cain would ask to himself…why?

    I will tell you why.Because Cain does not realize that he is the same thing just the opposite expression of what it see's in a mirror.He does not know.Lack of knowledge forms fear.And so he has the urge to kill because he does not understand what he see's.

    What is Cain you ask?Cain is the end point of full of color to absent of color.Darkness bears the element of fire while Light is The water element.Take this seriously because this is how your government runs you.By your elements.

    The Light being Has enormous power and potential because like water it can be 3 elements in one.It has Air(Intelligence)Gas)Earth(Ice(practical)And Water(Emotion)Examples would be the usual eye colour of green,brown(dominent),and blue.The Blue eyed blonde gene is always held so high it is a sign of the carrier being pure white,or water.It is the exact opposite of Dark man.

    Dark man has the element of fire(Many eastern blacks have red pupils when sunlight)Fire is the initiator,The beginner.It is masculinely feminine and femininely masculine.It is the only element to give light but at the same time everything it touches turns to darkness.It is the agent of Chaos.

    The light beings have every element except fire and cannot stand to see it.They have such strong emotions but they are cold emotions(water is the coldest of elements)and go out of control often.Through this the masculine form of erectness comes.They wish to be complete and have all elements which creates a hunger.

    Darkness is feminine and so is everything that applys to it.Light is masculine.When a male meets a female for the first time there is blood then pleasure.This is the same on many levels.Through the pain of masculine the feminine give birth to anew.

    I indeed Choose to Be an Infamous AvantGairde and if this is not enough i will further elaborate.

    The Circle of life,if you will,is the 4 elements.Fire(Noon),Earth(dusk),Water(Night),and Spring(Dawn).The Key Is The SUN.There are greater Cycles of the Sun that create day and night as well as the four seasons and so on.Fire is Summer,Earth is fall,water is winter,Air is spring.astrologically this is the coming of the age of Aquarius which technically is in January which marks the beginning of spring and a new astrological year.

    During the fall earth grows materialistic and material covers the earth,During this time we lose your knowledge of self and we can no longer identifiy ourselves.(Plant kingdom for example).We lose our natural knowing and become lost in a material world.This is where our most materialistic holidays in America strike hard.

    Then theres Winter.Food becomes scarce and animals live a harsh and cold life and many animals die before it even hits.This is the time for extreme difficulty as life fights against you.Many are lost in the night unable to see.Some see light but it is an artificial light that traps you like a bug to a lamp.These second density entities are searching for the same thing as you.

    Then theres Spring.This is the time when we begin to feel warmth again.The wind blows and tree's begin to remember themselves and can begin to identify themselves.There coming out of a cold night and a sun is rising.

    Many speak of the father but forget about the mother because the father wants it.This world has always had a problem with the feminine aspect in every way.The many say the father created all but you can obviously see that only the feminine can create.The masculine can only destroy.The true cross was the Ankh,the symbol of life.It ment immortality through balance of feminine over masculine.Masculine over feminine means no feminine presence and the cross is a symbol of masculine over masculine,or homosexuality.Homo sexuality doesn't matter but the lack of feminine is devasting.It means death.Do you not see this???.The truth is pouring in through many resources and you longed for it for so long.Why now do you fight against it.

    • Dude… everyone's pupils shine red in direct light. (Yes, even yours oh holy man) It's because your retina bounces the light back out of the pupil.

      … seriously WTF.

      Also… you misspelled garde.

    • Infamous AvantGairde,

      Your attempt at intellectualizing ultimately fails. Your utilization of run-on sentences, sentence fragments and poor punctuation cause your final product to fall flat. Perhaps you should avoid such lengthy "comments" in the comments section and haunt a blog instead. This will not spare you from the necessity of proper grammar and usage, but perhaps a blog would allow you a more personal venue with which to air your strange beliefs.

    • Urine Test Results: Urine Idiot – Test Failed. It's really a shame that there are no do over's, and there is no reincarnation. You could benefit from either one or both. It is appointed to Man to die only once. Thereafter, the Judgement. I'm glad I won't be assigned your "case", fellow Human.

    • I pressed like by mistake! let it be know that there is still no one who agrees or or even understands your statment.

    • InfamousavantGairde on

      @ VultureCulture

      maybe but why a quick referance to lucifer.I believe quite a few have this knowledge.Some use for themselves and some for others.Right on with the alchemy.I honestly have never read the kaballah though.

      The world is in a state of up side down at the moment. Here the physical is reigned king while excluding everything else in the process.To build a skyscrapper you first need a proper grounding.You can only go as high as your grounding allows.

      To everyone else who feels that I have failed because of a writing structure..I gave you my thoughts and supported it with multiple facts.I apreciate your thoughts but if you wish to say that I failed then tell me how and explain yourself.If I am wrong I will gladly support you.Till then I will strive to erase mental blocks.

      Take this food for thought for example.Ever wonder why light always wins¿ Out of all the elements all of them return to fire.When fire touches the earth it turns into liquid which then turns to gas.Air feeds the flame…..fury fire down below when heat rises.Interesting.I see that the cold gives a slow and torturious death.

      Many want to help you in the nicest ofways.Here nice is considered weakness that should be exploited.So you won't get the nice approuch.If you don't like what I say then do something about it.As long as you learn from it all is well

      • The best thing you said was, "To build a skyscraper you first need a proper grounding.You can only go as high as your grounding allows." Those words made me go back and reread everything you wrote because they showed a glimmer of insight. I gather that English is not your first language; which is great–I'm happy you can speak more than one and have taken the time to attempt to converse with English speakers. :)

        For your information: your message is probably unclear because some (many) of your words are poorly translated. Furthermore, despite the length of the comment, the concepts you are trying to communicate are far too broad to be holistically relevant or explained in this comment strand.

        Your theory about the whole earth/wind/fire thing is farfetched, though interesting, and could make sense if properly presented.

    • InfamousavantGairde is LAME!!!!

      dont ever post on this site again. were against the evils of this society and world and anywhere else they wanna hide. ok? Thanks, bye! go waste ur time somewhere else Noob

    • I kind of understand some of the concepts here, but generally it doesn't really make sense. What the hell are you talking about?

    • I don't need YOU to 'lead me to the light"
      You guys are truly defective. You love yourselves too much, put yourselves above god.
      Put yourselves above everyone else.
      Really, look at what you wrote. Aren't you embarrassed? You really think you've got it all figured out huh?
      Keep putting your faith in man.
      Good luck on your path, and may it end well. I mean that.

  95. Infamous AvantGairde on

    Ok urm i did not mean to post this as a reply only 20 so bear with me >.> sorry for reposting Vig

    Now to go back into my zone

    2012,Global Warming,secret societies,pretty much all fringe subjects revolve around one thing…Darkness.Many speak of light like they know all yet know nothing of darkness so you couldn’t possibly understand the light.The answers that you seek are withen nature itself.It is the most feminine and nurturing aspect of That Which Has No Name.

    There are so many clues withen this site itself that can lead you to the light yet soo many do not wish to leave there comfort zone.Well then…let me help you.

    It is obvious that there are agents of darkness and light here.These Revolve around 2 specific races.Albido and Nigredo.Or Cain and Abel if you will.Albido has a natural insecurity of the most high because it is harmed by sunlight due to low to absent melatonin levels.While the latter Nigredo is full of melotonin and is protected from the light.As Cain would ask to himself…why?

    I will tell you why.Because Cain does not realize that he is the same thing just the opposite expression of what it see’s in a mirror.He does not know.Lack of knowledge forms fear.And so he has the urge to kill because he does not understand what he see’s.

    What is Cain you ask?Cain is the end point of full of color to absent of color.Darkness bears the element of fire while Light is The water element.Take this seriously because this is how your government runs you.By your elements.

    The Light being Has enormous power and potential because like water it can be 3 elements in one.It has Air(Intelligence)Gas)Earth(Ice(practical)And Water(Emotion)Examples would be the usual eye colour of green,brown(dominent),and blue.The Blue eyed blonde gene is always held so high it is a sign of the carrier being pure white,or water.It is the exact opposite of Dark man.

    Dark man has the element of fire(Many eastern blacks have red pupils when sunlight)Fire is the initiator,The beginner.It is masculinely feminine and femininely masculine.It is the only element to give light but at the same time everything it touches turns to darkness.It is the agent of Chaos.

    The light beings have every element except fire and cannot stand to see it.They have such strong emotions but they are cold emotions(water is the coldest of elements)and go out of control often.Through this the masculine form of erectness comes.They wish to be complete and have all elements which creates a hunger.

    Darkness is feminine and so is everything that applys to it.Light is masculine.When a male meets a female for the first time there is blood then pleasure.This is the same on many levels.Through the pain of masculine the feminine give birth to anew.

    I indeed Choose to Be an Infamous AvantGairde and if this is not enough i will further elaborate.

    The Circle of life,if you will,is the 4 elements.Fire(Noon),Earth(dusk),Water(Night),and Spring(Dawn).The Key Is The SUN.There are greater Cycles of the Sun that create day and night as well as the four seasons and so on.Fire is Summer,Earth is fall,water is winter,Air is spring.astrologically this is the coming of the age of Aquarius which technically is in January which marks the beginning of spring and a new astrological year.

    During the fall earth grows materialistic and material covers the earth,During this time we lose your knowledge of self and we can no longer identifiy ourselves.(Plant kingdom for example).We lose our natural knowing and become lost in a material world.This is where our most materialistic holidays in America strike hard.

    Then theres Winter.Food becomes scarce and animals live a harsh and cold life and many animals die before it even hits.This is the time for extreme difficulty as life fights against you.Many are lost in the night unable to see.Some see light but it is an artificial light that traps you like a bug to a lamp.These second density entities are searching for the same thing as you.

    Then theres Spring.This is the time when we begin to feel warmth again.The wind blows and tree’s begin to remember themselves and can begin to identify themselves.There coming out of a cold night and a sun is rising.

    Many speak of the father but forget about the mother because the father wants it.This world has always had a problem with the feminine aspect in every way.The many say the father created all but you can obviously see that only the feminine can create.The masculine can only destroy.The true cross was the Ankh,the symbol of life.It ment immortality through balance of feminine over masculine.Masculine over feminine means no feminine presence and the cross is a symbol of masculine over masculine,or homosexuality.Homo sexuality doesn’t matter but the lack of feminine is devasting.It means death.Do you not see this???.The truth is pouring in through many resources and you longed for it for so long.Why now do you fight

  96. I would say the story of Babel serves as the Blue Print to what we see going on today. This momument along with others across the world, and in other news VC style convey the same message found in " The story of Babel" When I read "1 relegion" the first thing that came to mind was Genesis 11:1- Now the whole earth used the same language and the same words.

    3- They ( nwo) said come let us make bricks and burn them throughly'" and they used bricks for stone and tar for mortar.

    The Tower of Babel represents ( NWO) – tower of Goverment, false unity, motar/ meterialism, hostility towards God, a nation without relegion, one ruler, one language, false individuality. Also tower as in artistic, eye catching, seductive. Basically enticing/ drawing the people into beleiving they are doing something right, something good.

    Bricks/ made by men/ sheeple

    stone/ God given uniqueness

    Motar/ materialism / false unity

    The gov ( NWO) is on a mission to rid the world of God, turn the people into bricks, 1 world, one ruler and if you go back to the story of Babel, God said No and confused the language.

    Point: what can we do to keep history from repeating itself and or we purposly headed in this direction by gov ( tower of babel) By now the plan is well in motion. The economy is crashing and has alread crashed around the world, they have been particaly successful in convincing the world that there is no God, we are being pushed in the direction of 1 ruler, one dollar, one language.

    I am not worried about it ! I am a firm beleiver in God but in the mean time here on earth ; do you really want to help build the tower of Babel, ( materialism glorified by celebrities & media, no God, thinking you are being a stone when in reality you are made a brick, etc) or do you want to take an approach that benefits our world " one nation under God" The choice is yours ! Fyi there is a momument in France I didn't catch the name, sorry but it is built as an exact replica of the tower of Babel, unfinished and all and it has the same message " one language etc" It may already be posted on this site if not when I come across the info again I will post or if someone knows the building I am talking about please post thanks !

  97. Infamous AvantGairde on

    I Am sorry I did a truly selfish deed =/.some did not ask yet i told.That is wrong and I apologize.I see that it is best to give subtle messages and let those who seek find what there looking for.I have no right to interfere with your thoughts.

  98. Open your Eyes on

    Read Plato's Republic, this all sounds just like it. I dont think these Monuments have anything to do with a secret society, if anything its an idea that EVERYONE should keep in mind, we are too many in this world and we take way to much from our earth, and give nothing back.

  99. alex FUCKING jones on

    You people have no fucking clue do you? Duped by these writings on the stone. Overpopulation? No resources? Pollution? STFU. We as the average person never created any of these fucking problems. We never created religion. We don't poison our rivers and the air. We are encouraged to have lots of kids. We are programmed to consume. Are you people that fucking stupid? Now we have the same fucking assholes that created all these problems writing their plan on some fucking stones. DUH? We just follow. These dicks are the ones that created Capitalism, Communism, etc, etc. You are duped again in believing these lies on stone that you and me are the virus of the earth, FUCK OFF. The ruling elite are the fucking viruses. All the shit in our world was created by them, not by ordinary slaves like us. Why is this so hard to see? They created all this shit so now we all have to die to save the earth? TRIPLE FUCK-OFF.

    Vigilant Citizen does an OK job, but alot of the articles he writes leave alot of important things out. On purpose? I'm not sure.

    Age of Reason

    Has 11 letters. The number of sin

    The authors name also has 11 numbers

    These are small omissions, but very important information, and for someone who portrays himself to know alot about the occult, things like this are seemed to be ignored or not written about. If anyone knows anything about the occult it is all about numbers and to a point, symbols. But numbers are more important. I could spend more time writing but I need to go jerk off to some internet porno.

    88 is a completed 11

    11 will never beat 88

    Think about that one…………………………..

    the 8 is connected

    the 1 is broken

    who are you going to believe?

  100. "R.C. Christian" – certainly nothing Christian about this thing. I only perused this article so perhaps I missed it, but who owns the land on which this "mysterious" thing sits? Did they arrive in the dead of night and secretly erect it on someone else's property without prior consent arrangements being made? Surely the owners of the ground on which it sits would know or would provide a clue to the perpetrators of this thing.

  101. People! Your roof is literally on fire! What are you going to do? Wait for Christ's return, or get in there and help?! Didn't the Lord say He wants to find you working when He returns? Then quit whining and get to work!

  102. … really people?

    2. Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.

    Too often people who have no means to care for children have children… is it so wrong to ADVISE that they stop?

    3. Unite humanity with a living new language.

    Where did it say that all other languages must die? this would be a common tongue to ease communication.

    4. Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.

    All things should be done with a tempered reason. Or do you enjoy throwing reason away for insanity?

    5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

    I fail to see what's wrong with this.

    6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

    Oh wow… nothing seems wrong here. Seems to be that most people would want others to leave them well enough alone.

    7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Get rid of laws that are illogical and a burden to society and tax payers? Wow… yeah, that's a bad idea. *sarcasm* and what do you know, we might save some money by ending official jobs that serve no purpose.

    8. Balance personal rights with social duties.

    BALANCE. Not take away completely. BALANCE

    9. Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.

    So… are you saying we should abhor truth, beauty, and love?

    10. Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature.

    Again, what is wrong with the idea of TAKING CARE OF THE EARTH?!

    • depopulationisnotgoo on

      All of these commandments are crazy, evil, useless, ridiculous, wack, ugly if you first plan on somehow reducing the world population, from 7 billion to ONLY 500 000 000!!!


      That 500 000 000 is TRULY annoying and disturbingly laughable.

      Who, why, how the freak did anybody, any group of people come up with that stupid number! Guide Stone creator(s) = arrogant, crazy, idiotic, nuts, insane, delusional.

      A joke. A mess.

    • @ “Myself”

      To quote VC’s conclusion:

      Many of the rules of the Guidestones do make sense for the preserving of Earth on a long-term basis. But between the idealistic words of the Guidestone’s authors and the actual way these policies would be applied on the masses – by power-hungry and greedy politicians – there is a world of difference. Reading between the lines, the Guidestones require from the masses the loss many personal liberties and to submit to a heightened governmental control on many social issues … not to mention the death of 92.5% of the population…and probably not those of the “elite”.

      Maybe you can sign yourself up to be in the BETA test group for these NWO policies.

      -Noneya Biz

    • There is nothing wrong with taking care of the earth.

      That isn't really what these stones are about. Their propaganda implies that they are some sort of guidelines for when the NWO is installed. If the people who commissioned these stones are the ones who consitute a "shadow government" then it would be within their power to both protect "nature" and the sanctity of human life (i.e not kill off most of the world's population). This isn't what they want. You have to remember that to them we are just "cattle", we have no worth to them other than as consumers – we used to have a value to them as cannon fodder (fighting in their wars) but wars aren't going to be fought like that in the future. They don't need our manpower any more – robots can make things more efficiently. We aren't of any use to them any more, don't you see?

      The stones are deliberately ambiguously worded. Their idea of "reasonable" might be different to yours. Their idea of beauty is different to mine – I think the Georgia Guidestones are hideously ugly. These are relative terms. "Balance personal rights with social duties" – if they say it's your social duty not to have children – you will think that they're infringing your personal rights. Perhaps they will say it's for the greater good? Perhaps by that point there would be no room for negotiation anyway?

      I think that they would rather not use force to bring about their plans – they are doing their very best to manufacture consent. Please don't be taken in by these vague and seemingly reasonable "commandments". They are ravening wolves in sheep's clothing.

  103. We are more important than nature. No, we are not equals with lions, tigers, bears, birds, rivers, flowers, trees, etc. We have been created in God's image. While we are the groundskeepers of the beautiful garden created for us, we must keep our value in perspective. If we were equals with nature, would any of this battle for our souls be going on?

    What's sad is that the devaluing of human life goes on all around us amongst the general population. How many charities do you see that are based on animals? Saving/feeding dogs and cats? I refuse to contribute to these charities. It's not that I don't appreciate our animal companions (I love dogs), but there are children in ghettos and jails who need more love than a stray dog or cat. I see so much foolishness in which some people will let their dog or cat lick them in the mouth, but won't associate with a black or brown face.

    I've also noticed a lot of foolishness with pet food. One commercial coined the phrase "pet parents." These individuals objected to their pet's food not being organic or something. Some of these cat foods look better than what is served in soup kitchens (salmon and orzo pasta, anyone? Damn, I made that for dinner for myself last night). These "pet parents" were so incredulous that their dog or cat wasn't eating prime cuts of meat and veggies, meanwhile have you seen WTF Chicken McNuggets are made from? Our kids are eating that garbage! My dog can eat connective tissue, tails, snouts, etc. That's what their bodies are biologically calibrated for. These are domesticated Wolves. Have you ever seen a pack of Wolves dead because they ate the liver and not the prime flank of an unfortunate deer?

    All I can say is, it starts and ends with us. Are you going to turn a blind eye to this kind of foolishness? or are you going to recognize when stuff isn't right?

    • I'm glad you made that point. Puppies and kitties, cute as they are, are not equal to humans. Humans are made in God's image, given a high powered brain able to reason right and wrong. Funny how people want their pets to be their equals, but in many countries around the world they willingly give their hard earned money to support "royal" elite welfare recipient families. They put themselves into subjection to other humans, many of whom consider them lower forms of life. It's bizarre! Stop thinking your dog is your equal and Prince William is your superior! You're falling right into the trap! I pray for people to get some understanding–quick!!

    • I don't want to drag this on and create a fight, but animal are equal than humans, and if they are truly not we should treat them as equal. Is this type of thinking that has destroyed Earth in such a way, because people fail to see the importance of nature and what a missing animal can do to the whole ecosystem.

      Also you say that there shouldn't be any animal charities. I am not saying there shouldn't be any human charities, but a person isn't as helpless as a little dog. A person can work, beg, even steal to get food and other things, some animals, like dogs are dependent on us.

      If heaven is real, and dogs don't go to it, I prefer not to go, for me that would not be heaven. There's a saying I love which says "If dogs don't go to heaven, I want to go where dogs go".

  104. Infamous AvantGairde on

    haha holy man I would hope so.I mean no harm i just had a moment>.>.I seem to piss a few off.i don't mind as long as you get something out of it.I understand about the retina's but there are eyes that differ. Infamous AvantGairde is a name.AvantGarde without the I is reckless and adds to a..counter productive number expression number 74/11.adding a I hightens the names power with out tampering with the rest of the name.I is the ninth letter and 9 mixes with all other numbers and heightens the octave but does not change the number.and to the number guy Infamous AvantGairde is also an 11.I guess that might help with understanding what this numbers brings. It can be such a curse =/

  105. God said multiply, fill the world and SUBDUE it. Subdue meaning, at the end of the day be in control of your numbers. However, this doesnt give anyone the right to DEPOPULATE the world! Nature has its own way of depopulating; death. Overpopulation is a problem yes, i do not deny that; but can we consent to the massacre of 92.5% of the world's population? n chances are most of us will be part of the 'surplus' unless u're from an 'elite' dynasty! This is some scary vibe n especially seeing that we are moving fast towards an age where everyone and everything is being propelled towards the launch of the NWO. Its unfortunate that some of these things are beyond our control. keep ur faith in God- THE ONE TRUE JEHOVAH. and don't accept the mark of the beast. We leave the rest to God to fight it out for us. But stay SOBER!

  106. It should not be " The Age of Reason " but " The Age of Love ".

    Reason is Mind

    Love is Heart

    We are living the Way of Mind right now, that's why we can be influenced so easily by the Media etc.

    We should be living The Way of Heart….

    Remember the old saying " Listen to your Heart" ? Well, it's true…

    But not the Heart as in Passion, Lust, Longing etc.

    But the true and pure felling that we all share inside on what's right or wrong, on what should and should not be done. Where God speaks to all of us.But we have forgotten to listen….

  107. My 2 cents, that will obviously start some discussion, some crying and some hate, but here it goes:

    1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

    – Sick. That's probably the only thing that is totally wack and stupid.

    2. Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.

    – Three of my classmates had children before they turned 17. Yes to guide reproduction – not on a public level, but on a personal level definately. As a reminder, this is a nice phrase.

    3. Unite humanity with a living new language.

    – That would be taking it back to before the tower of babel. Also communication is the key. I'd like it, because in order to sort stuff out whether on a political level or in personal life – We need to talk.

    4. Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.

    – I agree and like it and would like to have that in our society. The world is more than Family Guy. Bring back the values, please.

    5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

    – I would like that because it is necessary.

    6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

    – If that's something like Den Haag, it is absolutely wise.

    7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    – Yes, PLEASE!

    8. Balance personal rights with social duties.

    – Face it. We have duties. Especially considering the times that we live in. Look at China. 1 child policy. And everyone agrees. Because it's just wise. Things like that are appropriate and not sinister.

    9. Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.

    – Wonderful.

    10. Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature.

    – I like that it's written twice. Yes, we should. And I know many who are a cancer on earth.


    Now call me naive, or stupid, or whatever but … A lot of this makes sense.

    The "killing most of the people" part of course not and that's why, in the end, I would probably help to destroy this thing, if someone would ask me to.

    But the rest… Is noble.

    Now slaughter me, crowd. 😉

    • Another thought to the first commandment:

      Serious question!

      Why do you imply that this means killing people?

      Imagine this:

      Everyone would agree to stop getting babies for 1-2 generations.

      (Especially since there are millions of orphans!)

      We could peacefully shrink the population.

      Because… 6 million is too much. I agree.

      There's no clean water in almost all Asia and even Europe (Spain for example. Beautiful country, but the water stinks.) Food isn't enough for everyone. This place is heavily polluted. It's just too much.

      This could be plan where everyone would need to work together, though.

      And for that you would need… Communication. Either 1 language, or really good translation software.

      Whatever, doesn't matter. We need to talk, though.

      And we "passion – faith".

      And you would do it for "beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite".

      And you would "leave room for nature".

      And you would need to wisely guide reproduction.

      And no one would die.

      No one would die.

      Once again – No one would die or get killed or get vaccinated to death.

      And everyone would be happy. Elitists. Hippies. Haters. The orphans. The church. The satanists. The NWO. The world. The nature. Probably (with a bit of luck and the right psalm at hand) even the christians. 😉

      Not everything is always about killing you after vaccinating you and putting a chip in your head.

      So, at least, I strongly believe.

      Please, please, please VC don't delete this.

      I'll keep it low now. I learned to respect your site.

      I officially apologize.

      Do you believe in redemption?

      Let me redeem myself, please. :)

  108. Another impressive piece of work. May God bless you and your work, Vigilant Citizen.

    On the topic of population control, some food for additional though.

    Excerpt from Speech by Don Feder to the 36th Annual March for Life Rose Dinner

    January 22, 2009 (… )

    In the developed world, fewer and fewer workers will be called on to support a growing number of elderly. In Europe today, there are four working-age people for every individual over 60. By 2050, the ratio will be two to one.

    Currently, in industrialized nations, 20% of the population is over 60. By mid-point in this century, the proportion of elderly in developed nations will rise to 32%. By then, these nations will have two senior citizens for every child. Schools will be turned into nursing homes. Playgrounds will become graveyards.

    The problem of paying for pensions aside, how will we even begin to care for a growing number of elderly with fewer and fewer people in their 20s and 30s? Can you say euthanasia?

    Who will run our factories and farms? Where will the police, doctors, nurses and emergency personnel come from? What about the soldiers to defend our frontiers and freedoms? How will our economies deal with an ever-decreasing supply of producers and innovators?

  109. Wow. Thanks for that update, Vigilant. I never knew the guidestones were 30 years old. I'd only heard of them a couple of years ago.

    I don't know how anyone can argue in favor of this mess. Cloaking their genocidal agenda in some new age love and light bull is straight out of satan's playbook. There is no loving way to reduce the world's population by 92%. That would be a holocaust. That would be a mind numbing tragedy. There's no love in that.

    Who are these people and who brainwashed them into hating their fellow man? SMH

  110. Any time human's lose the respect for creator/God and the earth he made for us what do we expect.

    Greed, control, and all for self does destroy. Belief systems also cause this problem. I think the guidestones are right in what they say, and to me they are just saying what a lot do not want to hear or admit to.When countries have starving people and keep having more there is something wrong, I do not believe God meant for people to keep having babies that you can not feed or take care of just because we are able to do so. Common sense would help, God gave us a brain we need to use it for the good not to destroy. But as long as we are on this earth in these physical bodies and do not follow the laws of God nothing will change. people are, most are greedy, want everything that can make them do less. humans destory, earth, animals and people all in the name of self. Nothing changes on earth, it just goes in circles. only until we are in spirit form/bodies we will contuine to destroy what Creator God has made for us.

  111. "My favorite verse is the one where Allah says two women must be a witness instead of just one man because women are so dumb and forgetful (obviously I’m paraphrasing but the same point is made)"

    The Qur'an is from God, and god created man&women, that's the law from God and don't you think God would know best about the structure of males and females? NOWHERE in the Quran is there any sexism so please don't paraphrase the Quran and add your own words do suit your 'liberated' view (btw, since you are such a proud, american 'liberated' women you should know that women's liberation as it is nowadays was funded and started by the NWO to suit their agenda, look up a series called 'the century of self'). And BTW the mere fact that Islam recognized a women's right to legally represent herself , have her own property and also be part of the election process as conceived by Islam, as well as have equal and fair representation in any and every form (and all this in a time where women all over the world were being treated as dogs – Islam set the standard and the rest caught up only after hundreds of years!), shows that Islam has no discrimination against anyone. People like Pharaoh and any evil being who wants to cause corruption and be unjust in the world should be wiped off the face of the earth. Then you say that God just wants to destroy everyone – do they not deserve it?

    About the Hijab: your liberated view (which was meant only to further enslave women, and make them think they are free) says that it is against women's rights, and that a women must dress how she wants to, not to mention all the propaganda about how ALL women are forced to wear it otherwise the going to get beaten up (and you believe such crap? Just go and ask any muslim women that you see if anyone forced her to wear it, go and ask her how she feels when she is in it – see what she says).

    Your society is filthy, all you people know about is sex, to be frank and honest, rapes are becoming more and more common and nobody knows what it is shame and be shy anymore, your 'liberated' society has become worse than animals who are in mating season – humping everything they see! And then you point a finger at the women who wants to preserve herself and have a pure relationship and say 'shame she is so oppressed' – when will you wake up?

    You complain because muslims come to 'your' country (who did you and your ancestors steal the country from?) and want sharia courts, and then you say you are a democratic country with freedom? (Yeah Right!), when muslims want to govern themselves according to their religion with a perfect moral code and law from God then all of you have problem, but when a few group of men who are filled with arrogance want to make up their own law (which requires ammendment after ammendment) then you wholly and happily accept?

    And how dare you think you have a right to criticise and make comments about Islam when you do not know the first thing about it? How dare you comment on the Quran when you have never put your head down on the ground out of respect, reverence and love for He, from whom the Qur'an came? You are running your mouth, and you should stop, take a breath, clean yourself and your heart and then go back and read the Qur'an seeking the truth.

    But how may words (well I have tried with many!) can be said to someone who is arrogantl and pigheadedly rejecting the truth? Someone who instead of looking for and discerning the truth for herself according to the intellect which she got from God, puts forward the same one-sided misinformed argumetn presented to her by the very media that this whole website is dedicated to exposing as false and a stage. What else can be said? What else would want to be said to a brick wall

    • No, arrogant is Mohammed setting himself up as a prophet of God. The Koran is not from God; it is from Satan. Allah is the name of a demon. I worship YHWH.

  112. Okay sure guys, the earth isn't overpopulated.

    Pfft, what were we thinking?

    Let's all just keep makin' babies that we won't vaccinate until we're all packed in like sardines and dying of whooping cough! Whoo-hoo.

  113. InfamousAvantGairde on

    Well first I must say that it is sad that all you see is a failed writing structure.

    I really dont have time to care for things like that.I did come off negative so I should expect negative in return.

    I stated this before but Infamous Avantgairde is a name.Infamous AvantGarde adds to a 74/11.Adding the I raises the octave of the name without tampering with the energy.83/11 is much more sturdy.

    You will become your name as you can see.I see that I am becoming infamous here yet strange thoughts say something else.

  114. 10% of the worlds population OWN 90% of the worlds resources. This is not about overpopulation. Its about easier resource management by the evil selfish fascist so called world elite. PS if the worlds wealthiest 10% all gave as little as 5% of their personal wealth to the poor. Not only would that erradicate poverty but infact the entire world population would be rich. If only 10% of the money spent on the military industrial complex was allicated to health care and renewable technology, there would be no longer disease or excessive pollution. The world elite control your mind if you think the world is overpopulated and that there is a lack of resources. Its so sad what these people are doing to humanity in the guise of caring about humanity and nature. Their guidestones are like the sign over the entrance to Aushwitz Death Camp. Work Sets You Free. An inhuman lie!!

    • The Georgia Guidestones appeared a mere two years before the year long "Feast to the Beast" celebrations of 1982.

      These festivals take place every 28 years as reported by Fritz Springmeier during which the agenda of the elite for the next 28 years is announced to the world.

      The Rosicrucians (R.C.) are a front for the Priory de Sion, which is another mask for the Watchers who made a blood pact to corrupt humanity upon the summit of Mt. Hermon, which sits at 33 degrees north.

  115. @ infamous AvantGairde

    Isnt God enough so you have to figure it out yourself. Isnt that Alchemical earth fire water air stuff and the kaballah talk of the formless All. I thought it was the central teaching of free masonry and thus lucifer. Please correct me if i`m wrong mate.

  116. We will all die anyway.

    A very few of us will die as warriors.

    A lot of us will die with fear, they are already dead for most of them. Wake upe or never wake up, it's all a matter of choice, you are GOD, you are SATAN, you are whatever you want to be>>>

  117. we are only here for a short while. and planet earth is where we are tested. we do not carry anything to the grave we were not born with. the only thing we really have and really own is our own soul.we have the power to have a righteous,clean soul of GOD.or a demonic dark acid soul of satan. that is what they want, nothing more. nothing less. they want your soul. it is the only thing that they can't literally snatch out of your hands. you have to give it up of your own free will.and they love that so many give it up like it was nothing. but it is something.

    whatever goes on here on planet earth will pass…all too quickly are our lives over. BUT…

    eternity is , well eternity. FOREVER. will you lose your soul to satan and his demons over the wickedness of these stones? and the many other things he has used to trick mankind into losing their soul?.

    MONEY will not help the greedy pigs in hell my friend. and the worship of these demons will still earn you a spot in the fire.there is no these satanists ever think about how long eternity is in the burning depths of hell? probably not…just money and power over the masses is all they care about. imagine, maybe 70 good years of destroying , manipulating, murdering, lying, scheming on the innocent, taking the best of everything and turning their backs on the suffering. and then ETERNITY in hellfire. hardly seems worth it to me. they can't take all their money with them when they die. not a penny.

    the nwo and our government thinks maybe they will rule in hell , but they are also decieved. "satan laughing spreads his wings oh lord yeah"

    whatever and however way they can they will try to corrupt your soul, so they can take you to hell with if there is a chance in hell that they may continue to torment and torture…or gain more favor with satan,they will.

    if that means condoning murder {and they ARE murdering and getting some to agree with their own murder} so be it. bringing nature and such into the arguement is just another way they can trick some into agreeing with the murder of their own body and soul.

    this is the test, do not give them your soul. it is yours. the ONLY thing that is truly yours

  118. 1st of what gave them the power to say we have to kill half the population . isn't that Gods job

    and also do you really think God will create earth making it JUST enough for a certain amount of people, God knows exactly will happen how many people will be occupying this earth before he set its time for Judgment. I swear they trying to erase God and let us all fear them but God says Fear NOONE but him. God is great there is way more than enough for all living creations of God. Its seriously sad how they are really trying to act as God but its like they seem to forget they have lost this battle and No matter what the devil does to make these people believe its Right he himself knows he lost and as slick as he is and heartless he just trying to bring down as many people with him like bunch of crabs in a bucket!!! FEAR GOD and no one else because he knows best and and dont feel stressed or upset because this is the kingdom of the devil and all of those who truly believe will go through tribulations just as every other Prophet did but never forget paradise awaits you if faith is strong…. They just as evil as the devil himself and its sad how they think its okay to do this when it comes down the bloodline we all brothers and sisters. S.M.H and its really just the westerners pushing this why cant they just live life praise god and die just like everyone else.

  119. “the gigantic structure is almost 20 feet high and is made of six granite slabs”

    I’m just starting to read so i don’t know if this will be said after in the article, but I bet that 6,66 meter high…
    Which would be, for the less, very meaningful…
    ( sorry if my english is not perfect )

      • Using the stated dimensions given in this article the over height can be interpreted as either :

        19 feet 3 inches (listed as "overall height"), which be 5.8689 meters

        or 16 feet 4 inches for the upright stone plus 1 foot 7 inches for the capstone for a total of 17 feet 11inches, which would be 5.4624 meters

        Just sayin'…..

  120. Alexander Smart on

    Thumbs up if you loved the vandalism of that shitty monument at the end, with the tag "FUCK THE NWO". I would love to dig up the time capsule ,give it to Vigllant, and mow the shit DOWN

  121. 4. Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.

    5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

    8. Balance personal rights with social duties.

    9. Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.

    10. Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature.

    Most amusing. Particularly 5 and 8. Is this coming from the same people who endorse trauma-based mind control and sick ritual child abuse? Is that more of a passion or a tradition in the new age? I'd like to know.

    I'm with the tagger at the end. Fuck these people. They have no place making up their own ten commandments. Criminals belong in prison, no matter how rich and powerful they may be.

  122. So am from Africa and it is hard to imagine all this happening right under our noses first of all this notion that Africa is poor and cant make anything out of it is simply a ploy to keep us in the dark about what really happens think about it people in this continent continue to struggle for food health you know the basics when you are doing this you surely will have no time to think about sinister occurrences right? this is a well crafted plot I believe that they like to keep the status quo so that they can continue to do evil while us down here we continue thinking that we are a cursed continent they accumulate wealth for the few in Europe and America and Asia from our continent they want to keep us poor think about no free trade yet they flood our markets with cheap subsidized goods?Basically from what I have read from this site the conclusion is the poor will be eventually eliminated (according to their plan)and isint that what they are doing right now slowly trying to eliminate us?

  123. if im ever at this lame as place i'll make sure to have a can of paint with me lol

    since nobody owns it i'll vandalize it hahaha in my OWN LANGUAGE!

    people have been doing graffitti since the begining of time :)

  124. Matthew Morris on

    Although obviously reasonable and well-intentioned ideas, one can also question if they are at all ethical. A great many things look really good on paper, but in practice they are often found to not work or be impossible to achieve in their ideal form, sort've like communism. God (or nature for any atheists) has his (it's) own way of making things work out. Eventually we will achieve a utopian-like society. It may not be today, it may not be in my lifetime, but it will come regardless of the ideals we strive for.

  125. Unfair distribution of earth’s resources has been going on for centuries, as someone earlier had pointed out during the era of kingdoms and fiefdoms, the elite would ban the peasants from hunting on “their” grounds so as to keep the peasants dependent on them. This system is what in unsustainable, and not the world’s population. While I am grateful for indoor plumbing and the combustion engine, many of us have let the elite manipulate and control us with these inventions. A few short years ago we were living quite well without cell phones and laptops. Today, one can’t seem to function without either gadget. Remember the mark of the beast in Revelation? Whereby you can’t even buy a loaf of bread without the chip embedded into your skin. Think it’s farfetched? So did our grandparents think of the internet. Look at where we are now. Inventions and technology is not bad, but it is being used for evil and selfish motives. Look at the searches going on at the airports today. If someone made you go through a “pat-down” before entering a store, you would boycott that store and ensure it closed down. I want to travel from New York to California this December. I thought of ways to avoid flying. It would cost me a whole lot in terms of days and money that I really can’t afford. What has happened here? I have become so used to technology (airplanes) and because of the evil and selfish motives of some (either the “terrorists” or the ones who call them “terrorists”, pick one) I am painted in a corner. So what is the solution? Give up technology? Go back to the dark ages? I believe yes and no. Yes, give up the technology that is enslaving us (thus easier not to get the mark of the beast) and no, not go back to the dark ages (I like my flushing toilet!) but do evolve a society that is fair and loving. And do all this, with a humble and prayerful spirit with belief in Jesus as our Lord and Saviour. It won’t happen today, and it may not happen in our children’s lifetime. But we must keep pushing forward and not give up on doing good. For if God is for us, who can be against us?

  126. Anti-Disaster Capita on

    Since the monument’s erection on March 22, 1980…”

    March 22 = 3.22 = 322= skull and cross bones.


    That is 5 / 5 / 1400 in the Islamic calendar i.e. start of the new century.

    In popular Islam, the world will not last much past 1500. Before that, the Anti-Christ (One-Eyed Dajjal) will create a false world & invert values.

    Christians & Muslims must stand together, that is why we are being led to destroy one another.

    • In Christian teachings too the world won't last long past 7500 since Adam. And most religious scholars agree that fateful count concluded in the nineties, which means we already live on borrowed time…

      It is also true that the Muslims and Christians are being turned against each other and duped into hating, tantalizing and fighting each other. I personally know a lot of fellow Christians who take the propaganda against the Muslims to be true… unfortunately. But they don't know what's written in the books: and that's that when the elite is done with the Muslims they will come after them and it'll be the Christians' turn to be the bad guys and the hunted ones. It will be them the 'terrorists' and the extremists and they are going to taste the same medicine they so thoughtlessly recommend now for other people.

  127. InfamousAvantGairde on

    @ Mathew Morris

    That is a good point and if you wish to know how ethical can be the elite uses information such as this so that should be enough said.

    Also I see that your being practical which has emmidiate benifits but this is an example of what I spoke of above.If physical is crowned as king you have no leg to stand on.Your being practical in a make believe world.

    But if you wish to know how I would use this information ethically personally. I can do what I can to help understandings.

    What was givin above was not for practical use.To much information and experience is not givin for that.Above was used to open minds to a different view.Maybe wrong,maybe right,but something anew.

    A good info for the everyday individual to further themselves would be……how to control there future .

    Its not too complex but takes discipline and consistency(couldnt spell the p word>.>).Its actually all about cause and effect.You can go to anyone to predict your future but nothing happens untill you make the move.

    First step is to plan something for yourself and take it seriously.Think about it constantly as you live life.This is what a visionary does.The more you think about it the more you act on it and it will begin to come towards you.

    You will see fragments comimg to you step by step.Dont expect it all at once because you didnt act on it all at once.Also 3rd density is so damn slow so you have to let things take its toll sometimes.

    The future is based on probability.Everything has already happened you just need to attract what you want to experience.

    The media wants to make everything fear based as if life was unpredictable.Its predictable to a T.

    Another note: Be careful for what you wish for.This is a 4dimensional crossing tech.Many focus on negative extremely and it is givin back to them 100%.

  128. part of your argument is patently false, and is typical of thise who seek to make some great evil out f thus monument, mainly conspiracists. first, it would be excellent to maintain the earths population at 500 million. excellent. but I take issue with anyone who says the population should be reduced. I am certainly not a eugencist, in any way. but, if by some cosmic cataclysm out of our ontrol which may well be imminent, and if the earth lost a greater part of its populace, then we should practise birth control and be senssible about not over populating the planet . I cannot see any problem at all with the guidestones, but if there is any implied threat to depopulate the world I draw the line with all severity. but again if we are in for some cataclysm and most perish then why not start again but not get the world in such a state where starvaton and degredation of nature is created. stop reading into these guidstones that which patently does not exist. stop making a bogey man out of them !!!!!!! mass murder by any means is evil and to be deprecated at all costs, but controlling our birth rate can only create greater happiness. the two are utterly poles apart.

  129. Do you not think that the FACT that ,f.ex. the Rotschilds own 50% of all wealth- including ALL national or Central banks (save 7) in the world , might have something to do with this?And if you add the wealths of Rockefeller,J.P.Morgan, Goldman&Sachs, Soro,Kuehn &Loeb- in all 13 families, not much is left over for WE THE PEOPLE OF THE PLANET . Seen from any other planet, this would be called ridiculous and rather stupid.

  130. There is a possibility that the Author and Sponsors of the Georgia Guidestones were not planning or thinking of overt or covert Genocide or Depopulation as a means of 'maintaining Humanity under 500 million'.

    It is also possible that they knew that the concept of managed-population limits would be very unsettling to present planetary occupants, but, that over time, the suggestion made would ultimately become policy after social debate, and changes were made in the global and individual psyches.

    Now that LGBT policies have been accepted in the mainstream, one set of potential 'non-breeders' is growing exponentially. As more and more people succumb to the effects of pollution and over-industrialization, less people will be 'breeding' amongst those impacted.

    Although this comment is not meant as an apology on behalf of the Guidestones, it is an acknowledgement that those with the most social influence or economic and political power, are often filled with the responsibility of cultural, social, and political oversight. We can only hope that 'Noblesse oblige' will still be considered, as part of their operant conditioning.

    The ideals of Truth, Beauty, Wisdom, and Harmony expressed within the Guidestones are worthy of our contemplation, and, are beneficial to our ongoing evolution and human development.

    The following statements… :

    ‘With such a system we could eliminate war, We could provide every person an opportunity to seek a life of purpose and fulfillment.

    “There are alternatives to Armageddon. They are attainable. But they will not happen without coordinated efforts by millions of dedicated people in all nations of the earth.

    …indicate that the ruling Elite, themselves, would like to make the transition from 'Permanent War for Permanent Peace' to a more Enlightened Civilization of 'Permanent Peace for Personal and Collective Enlightenment.'

    This is just my personal analysis, and may or may not ring true with others' interpretations.

    Kind regards to All, JRM

  131. St John the Divine; June 24, 1979 + 331/2 years=Solar Solstice 2012. Jesus was Crucified at 33 1/2 Maya means "Illusion"; 12/21/2012 is the Age of the 5th Sun; it will begin Daniel's 70th Week (Dann 9:24-27) with a World Crucifixion which means "To Fix". Jesus was hung "Fixed" upon the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil; the man-made Cross is a Rosicrucian idea. Notice Rosicrucians say "To know and act for Good and Evil". On this date Rev 6:14 "Heaven departs as a scroll when it si rolled together" will Seal te Book of Life.

    1979 UN Secretary General and Nazi Kurt Waldheim proclaims the "International year of the Child"; Egypt, Israel, US sign Peace Treaty; 3-mile Island incident, SALT II is signed (Salt is Akkadian for Prince as in Sargon), Carter begins Afghanistan War/trains Mujahideen "Warriors of Allah" as in Warriors of the Assyrian moon god "Sin", Bush Sr is forced on Reagan; Islamic Revolution in Iran begins.

  132. Re: @155.Anti-Disaster Capitalist says:

    November 19, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    Since the monument’s erection on March 22, 1980…”

    March 22 = 3.22 = 322= skull and cross bones.


    That is 5 / 5 / 1400 in the Islamic calendar i.e. start of the new century.

    In popular Islam, the world will not last much past 1500. Before that, the Anti-Christ (One-Eyed Dajjal) will create a false world & invert values.

    Christians & Muslims must stand together, that is why we are being led to destroy one another.


    John Robert Martino says: ' I have a personal theory that the Muslim reference to 'Anti-Christ (One-Eyed Dajjal)' is an allegorical or symbolic reference to the 'One-Eyed pyramid on the back of the U.S. Federal Reserve Note a.k.a. the Dollar Bill. Just a theory…