Sinister Sites – St. John The Divine Cathedral

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The destruction of New York city (including the Twin Towers) sculpted right on the building… Strange occult symbols on the floor… Weird rituals being performed in the sanctuary… Home of the Temple of Understanding which admittedly seeks to instate a new world religion… This cathedral is definitively “different”, as some people might say. But the “difference” lies in the fact that the cathedral is in fact a temple for the occult elite. I personally couldn’t care less about each individual’s beliefs, but to trick unsuspecting church goers into an occult house of worship is nothing less than Evil.

“The pagan intellectuals reclothed their original ideas in a garment of christian phraseology but bestowed the keys of the symbolism only upon those duly initiated and bound to secrecy”
– Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages

Background and History of the Cathedral

This unfinished building has been claimed as being the world’s largest cathedral. It is realistic to maintain such high aspirations when your sources of funding include tycoons like JP Morgan and prominent figures like the Grand Master of the Masons of the state of New York. The completion of the cathedral was such a prized accomplishment for the Freemasons that it was featured on the front page of “Masonic World” of March 1925.

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The article states:

“It is particularly fitting that the Masons, who were the principal builders of cathedrals and churches during the greatest cathedral-building period, should now have a prominent part in the movement to build America’s greatest cathedral (…) Little need be added to the story of Freemasonry during the cathedral-building period; its monuments are its best history, alike of its genius, its faith and its symbols.”

The article openly admits that masonic cathedrals represent the best legacy of the Brotherhood and the symbolism is prominently showcased. The masses are however too ignorant to recognize the meanings of the art, so they just stare at them, thinking “it’s pretty nice”.

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Illuminati Pyramid and All-Seeing Eye on the Cathedral

Freemasonry and Occultism

As you might know, Masonry has been, through the ages, the keeper of the “ancient mysteries”, which are occult and esoteric teachings only communicated to the initiates. I will not explain here the mystery religion as it takes several years of studies to get some understandi, however, however say that the occultists draw their teachings from ancient Egyptian, Babylonian, Kaballah and Gnostic cultures, who predate by many centuries the Christian era. Secret societies have been forced to hide the true nature of their philosophies in a veil of Christianity to avoid persecution by the Church. Freemasons and their fellow organisms, the Rosicrucian Order and the Knights Templar have all been accused of devil worship and idolatry in Europe.

While many low-level Freemasons may be practicing Christians, those looking to reach higher degrees within the Brotherhood are required to study the tenants and the philosophies of the Mystery Religion.  Freemasons do not necessarily seek for the world to embrace their brand of spirituality, as it is strictly reserved to the initiates. However, people in high places, who often happen to be Masons are seeking to steer the population towards a “dumbed-down” version of their paganism, as you will read later.

The Symbols

The impressive exterior of the cathedral provokes a humbling sensation at whom gazes at it. But what are you humbling yourself to? We’ll examine the details of the artwork.

1- The Apocalyptic Pillar

On the western facade of the building, stonemasons have sculpted numerous scenes that seem oddly out of place for a Cathedral. The most striking one is the chilling depiction of the destruction of New York city and its landmarks.

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Twin towers collapsing

The scene above was done in 1997, four years before the destruction of the Twin Towers.  Other recognizable skyscrapers are the Chrysler Building and the Citigroup center.

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Apocalyptic New York

The scene above might be unsettling for New York residents. We see the Brooklyn bridge crumbling with cars and buses falling into agitated waters. At the right is the Statue of Liberty, which seems to be sinking in the water. Beneath this horrifying prophecy is the New York Stock Exchange, with people trading goods around it.

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So, what is the purpose of this weird carving? Well, the first thing that needs to be mentioned is the actual St. John the Divine is credited for writing the Book of Revelation in the Bible, which describes in symbolic imagery the events of the apocalypse. Occultists believe that the Book of Revelation has been hermetically coded to reveal its true meaning to the initiates of esoteric teachings. This scene, carved on the west entrance of the cathedral, depicts New York as being “Babylon the Great”, the city who gets completely destroyed by the wrath of God. The Book of Revelation mentions:

“Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
She has become a home for demons
and a haunt for every evil spirit,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.
For all the nations have drunk
the maddening wine of her adulteries.
The kings of the earth committed adultery with her,
and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.”

-Book of Revelation 18

The artists might be on to something because there is indeed numerous similarities between the actual New York city and the description of Babylon the Great in the Bible.  The Book of Revelation mentions:

  1. A “Great Prostitute” who sits on many waters – peoples, multitudes, nations and languages – holding a golden cup. She rules over the kings of the Earth. = The Statue of Liberty
  2. Merchants of the Earth who grew rich of her “excessive luxuries”, weeping because nobody buys their goods anymore = New York Stock Exchange

“The merchants who sold these things and gained their wealth from her will stand far off, terrified at her torment. They will weep and mourn and cry out:
” ‘Woe! Woe, O great city,
dressed in fine linen, purple and scarlet,
and glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls!
In one hour such great wealth has been brought to ruin!’

– Book of Revelation, 18

Knowing that, still today, over 70% of the world’s capital goes through the NYSE, we understand why the building was depicted on the apocalyptic pillar. It represents the “financial” aspect of the Book of Revelation, where it repeatedly refers to rich merchants and trading goods.

So, a landmark of NYC, the St. John the Divine Cathedral, predicts in vivid detail the destruction of its home city. Pretty unusual. Under the rendering of the NYSE, we a skeleton and strange creatures, who seem to represent death and destruction. Is this some sort of prophecy?

2- Sculpture

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Side of the tired moon
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Pretty disgusting body

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This sculpture, which basically symbolizes the struggle between Good and Evil, features numerous elements we can find in paganism: Sun worship, mythical creatures and sun versus moon duality. Called “Fountain of Peace”, the sculpture borrows the fantastic, bizarre and distorted art style of the Grotesque. All sorts of animal creatures are emerging from a smiling sun, which represents the basic paradigm of Sun Worship (the Sun as giver of life).  The idol points to the east, an ancient pagan tradition. There is also weird stuff on the sculpture like a DNA symbol (a DNA symbol also appears at the entrance of the Cathedral). We all know how genetic modification is as Christian as it gets. We can also find a quote of John Lennon saying “…one day the world will live as one”. Think this is spooky? Read on.

Strange Rituals

A) Procession of the Ghouls

Every year, at Halloween, St. John the Divine is the host of a strange event called “The Grand Procession of the Ghouls”. It is basically a parade taking place right inside the sanctuary of the Cathedral where people dressed in costumes of demons, ghouls, monsters and other creepy things, walk around to macabre organ music. This thing resembles the strange rituals held behind closed doors by occult groups. Outside of the great number of costumes representing demons and Satan (already extremely bizarre for a Cathedral), some costumes seem to make a mockery out of Christianity.

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Does this look like Jesus crucified to you?

Other pictures:

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A priest-monster with a evil looking crucifix floating behind him
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The “bishop” standing in the pulpit while the ghouls parade

Don’t satanic rituals make fun of Christian rituals by distorting them? Well that’s as distorted as it can get. Processions are a pagan tradition like the “Procession of the Prechten” in Germany, which is very similar to the one at St. John the Divine in many ways.

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Procession of the Perchten in Germany

B) The Blessing of the Animals

Another bizarre ritual is the Blessing of the Animals that takes place in September of every year. You have a bunch of animals INSIDE and outside the sanctuary of the Cathedral “worshiping God” (in their words). Since when do animals read the Bible and such? They never did. An article published in 1996 by the California Forestry Association describes the scene:

“…goats, horses and other animals are led to the alter to receive blessings. Camels and elephants walk the aisles as worshipers march to the alter with bowls of compost and worms.”

This is another pagan ritual, taking place inside a church. Notice the white robes everybody is wearing.

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Hope this horse won’t poop while getting its blessing
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This cow is all worshiped out

Did you notice those white robes? Look at those pictures of other pagan rituals:

Celebrating "Lucia"
Celebrating “Lucia”
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Pagan ritual in Greece

Notice a similarity? Yes, white robes! Anyways, this is a video captured during the actual mass. There are UNCANNY resemblances with pagan rituals.

So we’ve blessed, horses, monkeys and aunt Sylvia’s poodle dressed like a ballerina. What is there left to bless? Why not people’s bicycles while we’re at it? Oh crap, shouldn’t have said that.

C) The Blessing of Bicycles

I won’t even comment on this, it is too ridiculous.

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The environment is our religion and we don’t know it yet

D) Paul Winter’s Winter Solstice Celebration

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Can’t worship the Sun more than that

This famous New Age musician celebrates the Winter solstice, one of the most ancient pagan rituals. He says on his website about the consort:

In ancient times, observers watched the sun sink lower in the sky each day, and feared it would disappear completely and leave them in darkness.

People practiced special rituals intended to entice the sun’s return. Bonfires and candles, with their imitative magic, helped fortify the waning sun and ward off the spirits of darkness. These symbols live on in our modern seasonal customs: the candles of Hanukkah and Christmas are kin to the fiery rites of old, which celebrated the miracle of the earth’s renewal.

So, yes he is Pagan, he’s proud of it and he performs inside a cathedral.

The Temple of Understanding

St. John the Divine is the headquarters of the Temple of Understanding, an interfaith effort to steer away people from traditional religions to a hybrid kind of spirituality based on New Age philosophies, Neo-Paganism and a mix of organized religions’ traditions. The “friends” who have assisted the founder Juliet Hollister include John D. Rockefeller II, the XIV Dalai Lama, Pope John XXIII, Eleanor Roosevelt, UN Secretary-General U Thant, International Planned Parenthood and the Jewish Theological Seminary. Jean Houston, a New Age guru and supporter of the Temple of Understanding wrote in her book “Trojan Horse”:

“The Temple’s purpose is to facilitate the one world religion, through the promoting both the acceptance and the embrace of all religions, beliefs and rituals. The Temple of Understanding’s Meditation Room was to be known as the “Hall of Illumination”‘ where the Illuminati, Masters of Wisdom, Our Leaders of the Temple of Understanding will train the public in the new humanistic cult…to create a new type of mystic”

The Temple has received full UN accreditation and has been a key actor in the “spiritual” department of the UN. Twelve individuals listed as Directors or Advisors of the Temple of Understanding are also members of the UN’s Global Forum councils. Those Forums have received numerous speakers who’ve openly supported a neo-pagan world religion based on Earth worship. James Lovelock, one of the speakers mentioned that “Gaia” (an ancient term describing the Earth as a Goddess) was the giver of life and had the capacity to heal herself. He describes humans as being cancers to Gaia, an “illness too overwhelming for her to heal herself”. In other words, humans are parasites to the goddess Gaia.

Al Gore has been a guest several times at the Cathedral of St.John the Divine where he infamously said “God is not separate from the Earth“. Well, in Christianity, Judaism and Islam, God IS in fact separate from the Earth (in the Heavens). If you decipher Gore’s phrase:

God = Earth = Earth is God

Gore has been repeatedly applauded by Pagan groups for his books and lectures. The Church of All Worlds congratulated the Clinton/Gore victory in 1996 by writing:

“We are Neo-Pagans — implying an eclectic reconstruction of ancient Nature religions, and combining archetypes of many cultures with other mystic and spiritual disciplines — and our beliefs and values are no different from those you describe as your own. Your book, Earth in Balance, is heralded by our People as a manifesto for all we hold dear…Know that there are half million NeoPagans out here who support you, and who voted for you, and who will rally to the aid of your policies for the salvation of the Earth and the reunification of the Great Family”.

Another member of the board of directors of the Temple of Understanding is Thomas Berry. He believes that the world is being called to a new, “post-denominational”, even a post-Christian belief system that sees the earth as a living being — with mankind as her consciousness.

Ok, so what the heck does this mean?

If you read my article about the Georgia Guidestones or the Denver International Airport, you’re already aware of unusual monuments and art placed by powerful yet secretive groups calling for a new type of global spirituality.  Key words or expressions are often used to make this religious shift socially acceptable: “Peace” , “balance with nature” or  “harmony with the infinite”. How can you be against peace? You can’t.  Those buzz words hide however the means that will be used to obtain those objectives:  “Peace” will only happen when all there will be a single world government. “Balance with nature” will only happen when the world population will drastically decrease and “harmony with the infinite” will only happen when the world will give up traditional religions to embrace neo-pagan humanism.

The St. John the Divine Cathedral acts as a nervous center for the spiritual side of the global shift. Through numerous forums and UN summits, the Temple of Understanding reunites leaders from all major religions to devise a universal message.  This message will later be communicated to the masses  through local religious networks. In a slow yet steady manner, all religious faiths are leaning towards the same sets of values and will eventually converge into humanism.

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Interfaith meeting at the Temple of Understanding

An example of this is Madeleine L’Engle’s courses given inside the Cathedral (she also is  one of the founders of the Temple). Her teachings include shamanism, out-of-body experiences, astral projection, Tarot methods of fortune telling, earth worship, psychic abilities, yoga, Tantric Toga (sexual form of Black Magic) and astrology. Almost all of those practices have have been severely condemned by Christianity for centuries yet they are being accepted within the Cathedral. Those types of courses are being promoted in various religious temples across the world.

But the main value that needs to be globally accepted is environmentalism. By creating a sense of urgency and fear regarding the degradation of Nature, it is easy to pass laws that would be otherwise unpopular, to raise taxes for the sake of environment and to shift the masses’ focus from their respective religions’ laws to the worship of the Earth. People embracing this New Age spirituality are more likely to accept controversial projects like Planned Parenthood and eugenics. When Nature is your religion, you see human life as a parasitic presence and more likely to rationalize the death of masses of population.

In Conclusion

If you have take one thing from this article is that the St. John the Divine Cathedral is not Christian. In fact, it houses the very people that are working towards the eradication of religions, and they are doing a great job at it. Like I’ve said in the beginning, I do not condemn any faith, whether its Muslim, Christian or Wiccan. All faiths contain wisdom in their teachings. But messing with people’s faiths and tricking them into worshiping something else is pure, epic, biblical proportions, Cobra from GI Joe, Skeletor from He-Man Evil. Some say that Satan is the master of deceit. Well, people going to mass into that Cathedral are being deceived in ways they can’t even imagine. Paul has warned the Corinthians:

“…for such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder. For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works”
(II Corinthians 11:13-15).

 


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amy
amy

I'm really enjoying your site. I've read about 20 articles in the last 24 hours. Can't get enough. I really appreciate your analysis on each topic. What is really interesting about the Illuminati is they keep using things like "environmentalism" as their agenda, which tricks us into fearing objectively good things like environmentalism. For every scenario they try to impose on us (choosing between the duality of environmentalism vs. non-environmentalism for example) we have to keep in mind that there is always a third option: the true form of what they've twisted. For example, illuminati environmentalism means sacrificing many so that a few can live in the lap of luxrury and do whatever they want while enjoying a beautiful planet free of "useless eaters." True environmentalism would mean 100% of us respecting our "home," the planet we live on, and operating by the truth that for every cause there is an effect. Choice is the most creative power we have. If we operate with choices in our value system that all life is valuable, and values that every major religion seems to teach like doing to others what we want done to us, non-violence, compassion, etc. we could have a… Read more »

amy
amy

Wanted to add, I also got the other facts from the new movie Cowspiracy. While these are totally different topics (SRA and Animal Agriculture) there were some fascinating overlapping truths in the understanding I've gleaned from both areas of research.

Greg
Greg

See? Repent and get right… quick!!!!!!!!

Isabel
Isabel

Did anyone else notice the orbs in that picture, where they mock Jesus made up of sticks in that Extravaganza thing?!!!!
That's ALOT of orbs.

Kevin Moore
Kevin Moore

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From "Am," "mother," and "arka," "earth," you get "Amarka," "The Mother of the Earth.", alias Rhea, Cybele etc, The Mother of Gods and Men, alias the Roman Catholic Mary, the "queen of heaven" [Jeremiah 44:17,18,19,25], and most surely these manifestations which all represent Nimrods wife are represented by the "Statue of Liberty" in New York harbour. [ note 1, p.77. The Goddess Mother of Habitation" – "The Two Babylons" by Alexander Hislop.]
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and from the same book page 158 — The Golden Cup —- Revelation 17:4
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"……….Thus then the cup bearing goddess was at once Venus, the goddess of licentiousness, and Nemesis, the stern and unmerciful one to all who rebelled against her authority.
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How remarkable a woman, whom John saw [Rev.] described in one aspect as the "Mother of harlots" and in another as "Drunken with the blood of the saints!"

Kevin Moore
Kevin Moore

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Jer.51 42 "The sea has come up over Babylon; she is covered with the multitude of its waves."
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Pillars on St. John the Divine Cathedral [ Jeremiah 51:42-44 ]
. http://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister
. http://www.nyc-architecture.com/HAR/HAR002.htm
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Jer.51:64 "Then you shall say, "Thus Babylon shall sink and not rise from the catastrophe that I will bring upon her. And they shall be weary." Thus are the words of Jeremiah.
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Revelation 18:21-24. "Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, "Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found anymore…….23 ……For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived…..24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth."

Tammy
Tammy

Folks, I hate to burst your bubble but the Cathedral of St. John the Divine is NOT a Catholic cathedral. It is an ANGLICAN cathedral (Church of England).

Kelly
Kelly

I don't believe in God, Jesus or Satan; but I do believe in the existence of power, greed and wealth.

This is exactly what this is, and religious or not, we should all be opening our eyes and protecting each other from this NWO movement which is becoming clearer every day.

Richard Clifford
Richard Clifford

Really? Well, how will you answer when you face Jesus at the end of your life?

Fleur Alexandra Picher
Fleur Alexandra Picher

Did you read “not in his image” by John Lash, a suggested lecture by Graham Hancock ? This book, clearly states how monotheistic religions contain at their core the seeds of evil, to know : the worship of an extraterrestrial father, the supression of the divine feminine, the chosen people, an elite to save the corrupt… The sacrificed scapegoat, the culprit of being human…Maybe the elite corrupt the pagan rites, but to my view, gnosticism isn’t about that, it resembles more like our primitive people who respect all living things, and don’t put man over the chain of evolution, which disconnects the link to the earth, still so generous even after all the pumping of her blood, the exploitation made to her. Most of the time, I agree totally with you, you are an excellent decypherer of Hollywood culture, but you must realise that the monotheistic religions are far more under the masonic aegis to keep the people expiating and perpetuating the victim-redemptor dictorship… I read this article which is not new, because I did visit this church on my trip to New York, without realising that Tesla had his funerals there…

Seeking
Seeking

The Christ above the Cathedral door on the front picture also depicts the Freemasons symbol (see the arms depicting the shape of the compass). Nice…

Also I highly recommend you the following book: “Maçonnerie et sectes secrètes: le côté caché de l’histoire” (“Masonery and secret sects: the hidden side of history”) written by Epiphanius (pseudonyn). Not sure it is available in English though but truly a GREAT book, you’d love it: >800 pages of highly reliable info on freemasons, rose-croix, O.T.O, Comenius, Memphis-Misraim Lodge, Fabian Society, B’nai B’rith, Palladism, Lucis Trust, Golden Dawn (…), and relevantly explained links between them and the various Revolutions (France’s 1789, USA’s independance, Russia’s 1917…), World Wars, UN etc.

All the info in this book (and I mean ALL) are based on quotes from high level freemasons (mostly above 30th degree) and gnostic sects members (public speeches, consigned speeches in Lodges etc), quotes from books written by the latter or by historians, and from internal and
official documents (published within lodges or in magazine and communication for Initiates, ceased by police, published by UN, UNESCO, Corporate docs etc). Look for it it truly is worth it.

Keep up the good work

Mona
Mona

Another great article. 'They' think they can change reality by taking over human consciousness which is energy.

This sort of redirection of worship is what they want so we worship the EFFECT – nature / science and not the CAUSE – divinity.

It is an attempt at reversal of divine laws. But the effect can never be cause.

H
H

I enjoy much of this website. The problem is you seem to constantly be lumping environmentalism, progressive thinking and "new" spirituality (really a remembering of Spirit and what we are as souls in this universe) with the Illuminati agendas. Everything can be used for good or evil–even being a Mason does not make you automatically evil or part of this agenda. The problem is that the only people who have this spiritual/occult wisdom are power hungry elites who use their knowledge for selfish purposes. You claim to respect Wiccans and all religions, all spiritual perceptions, but I don't usually get this vibe from your blog. Is there something wrong with environmentalism??? Last time I checked, protecting the earth will save the species…unless you all want to destroy the earth because it doesn't matter anyway as long as Jesus saves you. What kind of a mindset is that? In my opinion, the Earth is our HOME and we cannot destroy, r**e, and disregard it any more than we would trash our own house! Please stop lumping together sincere environmentalism and spiritual seeking with illuminati agendas. ANY true spiritual seeker, regardless of their path, would resist the NWO agenda of enslavement.

Tom
Tom

You focus on worshipping the creations instead of the creator. Earth may be our temporary home, but it will be literally destroyed when our Sun goes supernova in a couple billion years.

We are not saving the Earth, and we are not even saving life itself. There are microbes that live in the harshest conditions in the deep oceans that will never experience any effect of any causes that happen on the surface, even if a full nuclear winter occurred. Life itself on Earth is not endangered by human beings at all.

If anything, life will restart after our self-annihilation and evolution will restart. There will be a fresh batch of new species after any self-destruction. So what is it exactly that we are trying to save?

I argue that we are trying to save our own physical bodies. We shouldn’t fear that which destroys the body. We should only fear that which destroys the body and the soul…which is our very own sinful nature to idolize ourselves, created beings, over worshipping He who was, is, and is to come forever and ever.

The true Creator of all things is the only One who should ever be worshipped.

I C U
I C U

it is my deepest hope that those passing by the VC site will not overlook pieces such as this, and will do their own research of such matters, and especially the Bible. the music video/contemporary media bits are telling, but these essays go a bit further. and so many are blind to how their reality is being massaged by others. here is the best part of this piece: "Like I’ve said in the beginning, I do not condemn any faith, whether its Muslim, Christian or Wiccan. All faiths contain wisdom in their teachings. But messing with people’s faiths and tricking them into worshiping something else is pure, epic, biblical proportions, Cobra from GI Joe, Skeletor from He-Man Evil. Some say that Satan is the master of deceit. Well, people going to mass into that Cathedral are being deceived in ways they can’t even imagine. Paul has warned the Corinthians: “…for such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder. For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works” -(II… Read more »

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the obvious was pointed out to me that this
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is not jesus.

i think it was chris white (nowheretorun1964, debumking jordan maxwell and david icke, etc.) who pointed out that the worship of suffering jesus son of god who died for sins is being replaced by worship of this solar hero.

Hidalgo
Hidalgo

Your right!

j
j

Osiris is the egyptian god of the dead, the hemets were pagans, they worshipped the creation and not the creator. Paganism is evil, it focuses around yourself and the earth, everything that is temporial. God demands loyality, repect, love and trust. Man on a whole does not identify with God no more has been decieved by the trickery of smoke and mirrors i.e music, television, movies. To truthseeker, how do you know the suns real or the moons real, no one has pictures of the sun, all we know that it is it gives off light and heat. How does anyone know what anything is, all these man made tests to test the test are MAN-MADE. If JESUS CHRIST wasn't REAL than why does is this so-called myth disturb the godless, I know hercules and zueus aren't real but I don't feel compelled to argue against anyone that believes they are. The real question is that NO ONE can disprove the exsistence of GOD and JESUS CHRIST, you can try to but you'll be wrong. Proof that GOD exists= Just open up your eyes and see that your on a sphere revolving in space at alittle over 1000 miles per… Read more »

Peggy Love
Peggy Love

Love it. Sounds good to me. Thanks for the clues and information.

Laskarina
Laskarina

You forgot to mention that Jean Houston is not only a “new age” operative, but she helped Hillary Clinton write her book; “It takes a village”.

Even more telling is that Houston performed a seance at the White House when the Clintons occupied it. The purpose of the seance was to invoke the spirit of the crypto-Jew Eleanor Roosevelt, another lesbian elitist.
(and we thought Nancy Reagan with her court astrologer was weird.)

http://gawker.com/remember-when-hillary-clinton-maybe-communed-with-dead-1775824084

You omitted the pillar with the “tree of life” sigil from the Kabbala, complete with the star of Remphan, as well as the four horsemen of the apocalypse and most creepy, graphic birth of a baby (the anti-Christ?) over a lamb whose feet are bound.

Since the 70s, there is a Buddhist “altar” in place of one of the side chapels.

Richard Clifford
Richard Clifford

I saw the “Silent Night” video from the Paul Winter Consort concert and I’m stunned. Earth is being worshiped instead of Jesus Christ, whose father God himself created. The “climate change” people are trying to trick us into worshiping the Earth itself in the form of recycling efforts and all that. Nothing’s wrong with recycling stuff, but what are these environmentalists getting us into? I will never step foot into that place, I can assure you.

Sara
Sara

I say that the people who want to drastically reduced the world’s population should start with themselves because they look so ridiculous worshipping whatever it is they worship. And, are they not hypocrites if they think people are parasites; they should off themselves right away and be good examples for the rest of us.

nyccharterbuscompany
nyccharterbuscompany

You meet a new person, you go with him and suddenly you get a whole new city…you go down new streets, you see houses you never saw before, pass places you didn't even know were there. Everything changes.

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Stop the video about animal blessing at 1:15. See something? It is not very clear visible, but good enough to wonder what the hell that thing is doing in this cathedral or should I say-Synagogue?

Think
Think

Participated in the liturgical dance blessing of the animals and am unaware of any paganism involved and I am a devout Christian. I learned a deeper affinity and tolerance of the animal maneuvering around excrement, a reality we know exists.
My LORD and Savior Jesus made all creatures and beings therefore I rejoice in His handiwork. "Judge not lest ye be judged" is applicable here, however, thanks to "vigilante citizen" more investigation is necessary before participating in future endeavors.

Tammy
Tammy

Lucia, or rather St. Lucia of the catholic religion should not be compared to occult worship. Reading this article and how bad that guffaw was has made this entire site uncreditable . I would suggest a little fact checking in the future

Miguel Rey
Miguel Rey

Hello. Does anybody know if out-of-body experiences ,astral projection and yoga are bad things by themselves or is just the way you use it? Because I´m interested in those kind of things and when I read about conspiracy theories this type of things always appeared associated with the evil and the Illuminati. Thank you very much.

Jason
Jason

Read Death of a Guru. Great book with insight about Hinduism and Yoga by a former guru yogi and now Christ follower.

ajm
ajm

The Peace Statue isn't a Pagan sculpture–it's a depiction of Michael slaying Lucifer. Get your facts straight.

Caspar the Crucified
Caspar the Crucified

Do not be fooled, the Peace Statue is thoroughly satanic/pagan. Everything about this cathedral, it's statues, livery and icons reek evil and foul, satanic beliefs of the global elite. All elites are evil and corrupt to the core, do not believe for a second there is a single decent man or woman among them.

They are all active p********s, murderers, Satan worshippers, rapists and torturers, and this vile cathedral they've built to honour their "god" -Lucifer/Satan- reflects the darkness of their foul, diseased hearts and souls.

But the fury of the Lord is great, and soon all the Earth will cleansed by a deluge of bloodshed and fire, unleashed by the Lord upon the sin-infested world. And the wrath of the God shall consume all those who have followed the false gods and fallen angels and their servants, and there will be no rest for their torment.

Amen, come Lord Jesus!

The Penitent Man Shall Pass
The Penitent Man Shall Pass

Remember, a Christian who honored the second commandment wouldn’t make a graven image in the first place. So, in that case, no sculpture is Christian.

Megan
Megan

Wow… And I've been there before. It just looks like any other cathedral to me. I never noticed anything strange!!

Olivia
Olivia

look… i am of new age/spiritual belief. Basically a culminated concept of my own i continuously build up. But the important part of all the sinister sites is that people should know. They should understand that they are being mislead. They are being indoctrinated. They are being fooled. They have a right to know. But they fight against the truth. How scary it must be to realize that the religions we trust are lying to us. I have follow Wiccan/Pagan lifestyle in my life and Christians have serious issues with that saying its evil – but then look around you and see the evil everywhere – they would be horrified if they were told to go pray in a coven. I believe in knowledge. How can you believe something if you dont have all the knowledge? Read sheeple read. If the 'Illuminati' believe in knowledge – sign me up – beats teh hell out of walking around like an idiot being conned into thinking a man from long ago is he only way to heaven? Sounds like a kids story. WE all have the power to change our lives and reach enlightenment. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

sgsg
sgsg

It seems the satanic elites have brainwashed you wonderfully. You are an great example of an dupe and a fool.

I think the sheeple is you.

Tom
Tom

The problem with pagan faiths is that they continue to worship created things instead of the Creator. God, “The Source,” or “Creator,” is the only thing that should ever be directly worshipped at any time of worship.

Anonymous
Anonymous

And ye shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall make you Free. John 8:32__Realize there are alot of inverted un Truths being shared by groups associated with Aleister Crowley.__Such as Thelema, Rosicrucians, OTO and a few more (None are associated with Freemasons)___Being Crowley did have a short affiliation with the Masons he used some of their Degrees and mixed it with his own. He then went on to form some alternate groups that in spite of represent some symbolism which is of direct Truth yet altered in meaning and significance of True Masonary.

Anonymous
Anonymous

This is a current problem and issue in today's mass misinformation regarding the conspiracy of Secret Societies. Here is a link for any to research and make further conclusions. In hopes this may be informative and help correct alot of the misleadings today based on hearsay and public fear and lack of proper knowledge. Many Musicians are affiliated with these offshoot groups and have perpetuated false tactics and Hollywood Hype in the Media to Mislead the General Public and also put them Against their own Gov't thru improvised Movies and Holywood Alteration of innacurate projection of meetings that have no significance to what has been portrayed. It can be recognized as a series of Satanic tactics to lead people into deceptions and misunderstanding of Truth. It will take keen understanding for one to see thru the mass deception. Good luck and please do your research before you get sidetracked by the Hollywood and Music Illusion.
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/aqc/crowley.html

David C.
David C.

Here's a link to Bob's website, minus the end quote, which made the link non-functional: http://www.biblestudysite.com

David C.
David C.

Sorry, you'd have to read jessah's post in order to understand who Bob is. I should have explained. Bob wrote the following, in response to jessah's post:

"@jessah – Don't despair about these things, satan will use anything and anybody that he can to keep you from the truth. I think many or most of your questions and concerns are covered here. There is a lot of info so take your time and browse around, specially the Q&A section. http://www.biblestudysite.com/"

Bob's website says it is "Non-Denominational Endtime Bible-Based Christian Studies, Current Events, and Christian Questions & Answers" and has many anti-Catholic things on it (imagine that!). I can only assume that Bob assumed the cathedral of St. John the Divine was a Catholic cathedral.

Also, I messed up the link to the Compendium of the CCC by my parentheses. Here it is: http//www.amazon.com/dp/1574557203

Peace, everyone!

David C.
David C.

While it's true that the internet has continued the lies, misrepresentations, misunderstandings, and outright calumny of Protestants, I think on the whole it is serving the cause of Truth as Protestants are able, possibly for the first time, TO EASILY READ AND STUDY FOR THEMSELVES WHAT THE CHURCH ACTUALLY BELIEVES AND TEACHES, and what she has always believed and taught, as witnessed by the writings of the Church Fathers (quick fact: did you know that St. Ignatius of Antioch was actually a disciple of St. John?! He died in the Colosseum as a faithful witness to Christ by the teeth of the lions, at the hands of the Romans), other saints, documents of Church councils, catechisms, etc. As a result, many of them are finally coming home. Here is a link to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which is the official and definitive document of what the Church believes and practices, straight from the horse's mouth, as opposed to "biased," shall we say, information from Bob's website: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/ccc_toc.htm. Better yet, you can buy a copy for all of $10.17 with FREE Super Saver Shipping: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0385508190. Or get the shorter (only 200 pages) Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic… Read more »

David C.
David C.

I just ran across a couple of comments. The first, by user "Another Perspective," from 137 weeks ago, begins thusly: "Interesting. I will ask this, is the Catholic church even a true church anyway?" and goes on from there with the usual anti-Catholic stuff. This question entered "Anothers" mind because he or she thought that this was a Catholic cathedral. Was I just imagining things when I said that Protestants have been engaging in this kind of stuff for 500 years? And so it continues. They started this campaign of lies and falsehoods and continue it for one primary reason: to justify their own existence, that is, their very legitimacy to exist apart from the one and only Church founded by Jesus Christ. It's sad, really. Here's a quote from another user, "jessah," from 163 weeks ago: "Hey can you make an article about the Catholics, the Popes, etc. What are there roles? Are they evil?" She goes on to say that, "Im very very confuse….. And seeking for the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!" I hope other readers aren't so gullible, but I have to admit I don't have much in the way of hope for this. "Repent and believe the Good News!"

David C.
David C.

I'm sure in the "pagan rituals" alluded to, people read and/or sung from books or at least manuscripts, consumed food or beverages as part of the ritual, walked around, and sang in unison. Are these things now off limits for good, Bible-believin' Christians? So much for singing the national anthem and "take me out to the ballgame" at sporting events. Gee, I was really looking forward to sustaining my bodily existence by having dinner tonight, too bad. If the author is wearing a wedding ring, and it's quite likely that he is, then I hereby accuse him of following a practice derived from the pagans, and it is well-known that this is so. When he goes outside, he probably also worships the sun. As another example, the author states that animal worship occurs in this cathedral, using the logic of "there were animals there, and there were humans there, so the animals must have been worshiped." Where are the pictures of the congregation prostrating themselves before the animals? Where are the verifiable references to witnesses of prayer to the animals, such as, "O great Bell, cow-god of the plains, we beseech thee to grant us a good harvest this year?"… Read more »

David C.
David C.

Let it be known that this is an Episcopalian cathedral, and I am sorry for the Episcopalians that this is so. Why this little fact is left out of the article I can only speculate. Coming at the end of the article is this: "Well, people going to mass into that Cathedral are being deceived in ways they can’t even imagine." As far as I know, Episcopalians do not call their worship services "masses." Possibly the author is trying to deceive people who read the article into believing that this is a Catholic cathedral. This type of deceit has been one of the hallmarks of Protestantism for the last 500 years, from Luther on. I can only assume that the author is some flavor of fundamentalist Protestant whose clergy or choir members do not wear robes. Are we going to see pictures of a "pagan" Methodist choir in the next article? Somehow, I doubt it. Though it must be said that the article includes exaggerations and speculations. For instance, is there really something wrong with wearing white robes? People around the world for millenia have worn robes. Because some "pagans" wore them in some of their rituals, does that make… Read more »

Anita
Anita

Whoever wrote that article about the 12 most beautiful churches in America must have been wearing blinders.
I am so grateful to the person that wrote this article, it is the TRUTH. In fact, in naming the most beautiful churches they left out one of the outstanding churches, The Cathedral of thr Immaculate Conception in Washington, D.C.

pantelo
pantelo

we rely on science to improve our lives.
worship medicine,chem,phys,worship the sun to keep us ongoing.worship the moon and the galactic black hole.its enough,we dont want hell and paradise 666
we grow,educate,serve,love marry have children,die in the universe.its enough..

Tigara Electronica
Tigara Electronica

I heard about THEM trying to form 1 world religion by melting all traditions and beliefs into a singular form of deity … but this is outrageous .. and when I think even I was tricked to take part in such gatherings while I was studying in California .. a friend of mine told me about this really popular "spiritual" center called Agape .. and I went there, true, people were really nice, but I always had a funny feeling about it .. now I understand why .. good job VC .. I will pass on the word to people, we all need to wake up !

H
H

By the way, I'm not trying to trash your article, you may be right about the cathedral–the one-seeing-eye pyramid and apocalyptic pillars are pretty telling. Just wanted to get clear about non-Christians not being evil…

James
James

I hate to burst your bubble on the Procession of Ghouls but there is nothing even resembling the occult involved with it if you look into Catholic theology.

Halloween, according to Catholicism, is the day when all the ghouls and demons are set loose upon the Earth. The day after, All Saints Day, is when the spirits of all the saints come and all the demons go away once more.

The Procession of Ghouls is simply a representation of Halloween. Is it a little overblown? Sure. But it is not an occult ceremony by any means. It is a dramatic theater show that will be followed by a mass the next day on All Saints Day to expurgate the demons.

Sidenote: I find it interesting that the Roman Catholic Church specifically forbids any member from being a Freemason or member of any other ungodly secret society but Freemasons were able to build a Catholic cathedral. Seems strange but I am not a knee jerk conspiracist.

Peter
Peter

It is fitting indeed. For clarification, though, the cathedral is not a catholic one. It is episcopal. St. Patrick's is the catholic cathedral in nyc (there can only be one cathedral per diocese). Knowing the current and former catholic archbishops, this probably wouldn't fly there. I don't blame them as this would be walking the line in most churches, even if it was followed by a high mass on All Saints Day.

Still, St. John the Divine is a tremendous setting for such an event. It is a beautiful/creepy enough building as it is. I've always wanted to drop in for evensong.

Paddy the Irishman
Paddy the Irishman

This is a Protestant Church – and we all know that the Protestant Church was founded by Henry the 8th cos he wanted to have as many women as he liked …… after which he would cut their heads off ! Right ?

Th Pope said no ….. so he said … right- I will form my own church !

Extraterrestrial
Extraterrestrial

I have to give the othr side the benefit of doubt on the sculpt of the twin tower seeming collapse. I dont really see the collapse here – anymoreso than the other buildings around. It could be that the sculptor sculpted with intention of creating a kaliedoscopish view.

john
john

And yet…the whole underlying premise of mainstream Christianity is that we are all inherently bad due to our distant ancestor having eaten the wrong kind of fruit, and that only a blood sacrifice of an innocent man to god can atone for this (inherited) guilt. can anyone see why I have a problem with the whole damn thing here??? it inherently sucks. I do believe in a good and just Divine Orderer, and I will never renounce this. But the acts described in the Bible attributed to 'God' just don't cut it. If a human being acted like that, we would lock them up, and rightly so! May the (actual) Highest preserve us!

john
john

So Jesus could not POSSIBLY have been worshipping Jehovah / Yahweh of the Old Testament. Jesus seems a pretty nice guy, I feel that when he referred to his HEAVENLY FATHER he was talking about SOMEONE ELSE.

john
john

Here's a nice list of atrocities committed by the god of the Old Testament, if you believe in that scripture (go and check, it's all in black and white): Mass Killings And Cruelties Ordered, Committed, Approved By God The entire population of the earth at the time of Noah, except for eight survivors, in a flood. "And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth; and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark." Gen 7:23 [Jehovah, the first mass-murderer, starts His bloody carrier.] Every inhabitant of Sodom and Gammorrah, and the surrounding plain, by "brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." Gen 19:24 Lot and his family fled. [What about little innocent children in the city and around on the surrounding plain.] All the first born of every family in Egypt, including children of those in dungeons and the successor to the throne of Egypt's Pharaoh, by God on the first Passover night. Ex 12:29 [Of those that are in prison and the first born of… Read more »

I C U
I C U

you make a compelling argument FOR the New Testament, the new convenant, and our Lord Jesus Christ, thanks!

andrew
andrew

Blah blah blah we are ALL missing the point when we argue like this. Since Truth is beyond mere words, and has to be actually experienced, we are better off meditating, or praying, or whatever it is that actually connects you to Higher Reality. I wonder how many people we can sway by arguing and putting our belief system above anothers? i would say ZERO. Just practise, don't preach.

Andrea
Andrea

It all depend on the context and on the spirit which undelies the ceremony.

Here in Tuscany, Italy, animal blessings are very common.

In Montesenario Abbey a "motorcycles blessing ceremony" takes place every year too.

Does anybody think that the order of the Servants of Mary ( est. 1233 ) hosts luciferic worship?

Just publishing some pictures doesn't prove anything but the astonishing shallowness and unbounded ignorance of these american christian neo-crusaders.

Kristi
Kristi

I may be late in commenting… but here are my thoughts. The first mention of man's creation in the hebrew bible is of the Elohim, the usual word for God. The direct translation of Elohim from Hebrew to English is, "Those who came from the stars", this means man's DNA comes from the stars, the original man is not of Earth origin. What does this mean? It means man has extraterrestrial origins. Scientifically we only know what 10% of our DNA, the rest we call "Junk DNA". In the Sumerian legends, a civilization that once existed in the region that we call Iraq/the Middle East, Enoch speaks of a language of light, he calls this language of light, Hiburu which is translated to Hebrew. The most ancient form of Hebrew is Kabala. Kabala is a THOUGHT-PROCESS. Lucifer is a latin word, to mean "bringer of light"… Luciferianism is a thought-process. See the connection? Our visual, physical, materialistic world, is Lucifer, Lucifer is neither GOOD nor EVIL. The visual, 3 dimensional, world is illusionary it is not there, it is holographic. NOTHING PHYSICAL is real. By just being here on earth you "worship" lucifer. By believing what is in front of… Read more »

Matt
Matt

I'm sorry but that procession of ghouls in a 'Christian' cathedral is just ghastly! It's so wrong that I can't put any words together to express how appalled I am by the sights seen in that accompanying YouTube video!

Kayleigh
Kayleigh

The freemasons are not a religion and they DON'T worship the devil. They don't worship anybody because they are not a religion! Did you know the freemasons were the second highest giver to charity in England in 2009? Freemasons are innocent people and they have nothing to do with the NWO.

Lazarus
Lazarus

Maarten: I hear you, but anyone who says "a marble of engineering" is lacking intellectual creedence in my book. The secret 'Illumination' of these groups is coded in the phrases "Nothing is tru, Everything is Permitted" and "Do what thou wilt"…There is no God, that is the secret behind Masonry. Not that worship Lucifer, but that they worship the fact that THERE ARE NO RULES and NO CONSEQUENCES to their actions, therefore they can control the masses with fake religions…I believe in science, not an archaic book written by primitive farmers.

Bella
Bella

Funny…I don't think of dancing ghouls when I attend my church.

That cathedral is not "church". It is a mockery and all the people who are blind to this truth are doomed.

David
David

Christianity is one of the foulest evils on this planet, and should be outlawed. Looks like that is finally starting to happen. The sooner the better.

Amore
Amore

In the US no one's "outlawing" Christianity or any other religion, we're just asking people to tone the crazy down and do it in their own time and place. How some people have misused Christianity is indeed very evil, but Christianity is good too. It tells us to worship an invincible but good God, to care for one another and others, to be charitable..

Peace-a distant drea
Peace-a distant drea

"Neo-Pagan-Bordeline-Satanic-the-Environment-is-more-important-than-human-life beliefs"

This sentence can be used to describe many other evil things in this world. I'll learn it by heart!

John
John

To the author: I disagree with much of what you have said. The reason is because I can find a defense for almost every single point you have made here. However, that would take up more of my energy and time that I wish to spend in this. The only troubling thought to which I had no answer for is the Halloween festival.

You go into many things here dealing with the architecture, and the statures. But they all have meaning in the church. For instance the collapsing of New York City. Clearly that is a sign of the end times. God will destroy what man has built up and will take only the select few confessed Christians with his to his kingdom.

Also you might want to take note to the Lucia fest that you have marked down as being a "pagan ritual". St Lucia is a story of a sweetish girl who lost her life in service to God, and she is acknowledged every year around Christmas time. The festival is sweetish tradition and the white robes are part of that festival.

John B. Drummer, THD

Christi
Christi

I don't know what THD stands for, but the country is Sweden, not "sweetin".

Oda
Oda

I love the Cathedral of St John the Divine! The blessing of the animals takes place around the festival of St. Francis of Assisi, patron saint of animals, so there's your link to Christianity. It's beautiful, funny, gentle, and inspiring. The blessing of the bikes? Given the high injury and death rate of NYC bikers, hey, it can't hurt. It's not like they're putting curses on New Jersey drivers, right? ….or ARE they? What kind of a conspiracist are you? Next time, get some audio! The cathedral makes no secret of encouraging interfaith friendship and communication, and does not hide its interest in the environment or community building. That's not at all the same goal as abolishing faith. There are daily Episcopalian services with a real live Episcopalian minister throughout the week, and a Sunday school to boot. The cathedral's divergence from strict Episcopalian tradition hardly makes it a sinister site. It's way less creepy than, say, the headquarters of Fox news in midtown. Somebody wrote about the Halloween costumes: yeah, that was a performance of one kind or another. Puppets and masks are big in New York. Regular services, for better or worse, do not feature awesome special effects.… Read more »

cNeWbZ
cNeWbZ

shane how can you say oh gods not really so sun worships better. i can admit that i dont beleive in god however this beleif unites millions. the worship of the sun is not literal you moron it represents satan and the light he brings to the so called elite. so you think that the worship of the figure ment to be all evil is better then the worship of a merciful creator? your either screwed up or just very dumb

Julian
Julian

the sun god is not satan, is the same that christ you ignorant f**k

Rock
Rock

So I would like to know something. Are there any Islamic groups/important figures involved in the Cathedral?

Because I have to say, I've noticed that while most religions are safe from prosecution and are in fact encouraged to come together, Islam is almost systematically bastardized and made out as some sort of great evil cult. What's your opinion on this?

Laura
Laura

You make alot of these things sound like a bad thing..

I do find the apocalyptic messages and satanistic aspects creepy.. But isn't it nice that a group of people honor the earth, animals and enviroment? The whole notion of Paganism is celebrating the life of the world around us and nature.

I do agree with the fact that a Cathedral teaching something else and making its followers practice a different religion is not okay- but there are alot of other misleading churches; and of course.. People can always leave.. they are not bound to the cathedral.

Jhy
Jhy

Great research VC, keep up the good work.

@ Lizzie – You are decieved !the all seeing eye is very much pagan, period ! & the blessing of animals ??? that is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard / seen. Thanks VC for your awesome research. Too bad so many people can't understand it.

@himesha – your time is coming to an end ! YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE KING OF KINGS & LORDS OF LORDS – JESUS CHRIST when he returns again. I will not bother to respond back to your comments, because GOD will deal with you. Peace be with you.

Lizzie
Lizzie

It should be noted that the Blessing of the Animals is a common Catholic tradition done to honor St. Francis of Assissi. Whether it’s also a throwback to an older pagan religion is somewhat irrelevant when you consider that most modern religious practices, from Catholic to other Christian to even Jewish, borrow from older traditions and cultures. It’s people using what they know. As they say, there is nothing new under the sun. Additionally, the use of the All-Seeing Eye, which I suppose is suspicious on first glance due to the Freemasons’ involvement with the building of the cathedral, stops being quite so sinister when you consider that, aside from the symbol being used in ancient traditions pre-dating Christianity, the Christians themselves (at the time all Catholic [save the Orthodoxes], if I’ve got my history right) used it during Medieval times and the Renaissance to depict the Holy Trinity, long before the Freemasons even existed. It’s a symbol that at least some Catholic students are taught in their religious classes leading up to their Confirmation – this is taken from experience. All Christianity except the Orthodox Church originated in Catholicism. Therefore it WOULDN’T be all that surprising to find it… Read more »

Lizzie
Lizzie

@101. earth-civilian: Except for the part where, you know, Osama bin Laden came right out and SAID HE DID IT.

M
M

Actually he denied doing the attack. Don't believe the mainstream media they've been lying to you! Research if you doubt me.

modizo
modizo

why do you know too much about this things, were you one of them? just tell us the truth. Furthermore ave got no problem with them. Coz these people are secretive and they dont

force anyone to join them and they are very few compared to other religions. So let us all believe in whatever we believe and leave them alone. Only God can judge them. Stop being possesed with too much comics and hollywood.

POB JULY, 2010
POB JULY, 2010

Upon reading the article about the so called singers and the strange symbols some building have encrypted on them clearly confirms what the bible has always warned man about. I am deeply ashamed of ever listening to the songs of those evil singers. May God for give us all. Let us prepare as followers of Christ for what is ahead of us. People like J-Z and his wife or whoever she is to her, Rhianna and Kanya West will all face the wrath of God. Shame on them all. They are a disgrace to humanity.

Mrberlin
Mrberlin

The Episcopal Church of St. John the Divine at 103 St. and Amsterdam reportedly conceals the entrance to an

underground cavern used by an occult lodge, an actual "city" left over from former sub-inhabitants of the eastern seaboard during antediluvian/Atlantean times, and protected by "space-warping" technology. source: ENCYCLOPEDIA OF OCCULTISM

& PARAPSYCHOLOGY, by Leslie A. Shepard, pp. 889-890; Maurice Doreal

Antony
Antony

But…Christianity IS a Sun cult.

Worship occurs on SUNday!

While much of the imagery on the pillars in this structure are odd and in some cases rather disturbing, I don't think that everything presented here is 100% true and correct.

For example, Santa Lucia (Saint Lucy) has been venerated as a saint by Roman Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran, and Orthodox churches in Europe for hundreds of years. The celebrations associated with her do have roots in Germanic paganism, but so do a number of other Christian practices, including hanging Christmas wreaths. And nobody demonizes that.

Dig for the history and you'll see how much Christian myth, theology, practice and symbolism has borrowed from other "pagan" backgrounds.

To associate Freemasonry with all that is "pagan" is just as bad as calling all Christians Catholic.

It's not rooted in a solid truth, but in ignorance.

Tiffany
Tiffany

Ok all I have to say is BIZARRE!!!!

costa rica girl
costa rica girl

I'm not sure about the "Luciferian system" but for the most part I agree 100%.

greece girl
greece girl

A lot of food for thought here. Tremendous presentation!

Fire come walk with
Fire come walk with

Maybe they are allowing all these different religious systems and rituals into the Christian churches to create subtle confusion, mental conditioning then finally promoting a sort of Christian amnesia (Christian doctrines and Jesus' words) to accept a future Luciferian system by those 'UN council accredited' advisors. I know for sure that the main Cathedral in my large city is also hosting inter-religious programs and forums there as well. It all seems innocuous, but mabe there is a subtle and sinister agenda.

rickorlando
rickorlando

Shane. There are more written, historical documents about Jesus than there are about Napoleon… Did Napoleon exist?

john
john

I have been getting increasingly interested in the planet, being a christian and seeing so many alignments between events like solar flares, tsunamis, pollution and how they correlate with prophecy.

I am writing about these on my blog at
http://chasong.blogspot.com

I used to be atheist and I am still sceptical. I will go to a church (denominational) service with my thinking cap on – BUT maybe its apophenia or maybe I’m just a looney, but I really think things are winding down for our green planet.

I’d be really honoured if you come by and drop your thoughts – and rants on my blog at: http://chasong.blogspot.com
Thanks for your time

neonate
neonate

"my people perish for lack of knowledge"

Baba Gee
Baba Gee

Wow, thanks for this article!!! I've lived in and around NYC my whole life, but only had been to this church a few times and never really saw it. Don't get me wrong, I always loved the place, but now I really love it!!!! Thanks again and keep up the good work!!! Ciao.

Keyumdi
Keyumdi

Nothing unusual about any of those services… at least in a mainline Protestant church. The Holly and The Ivy is one of those Christmas carols that ties pagan worship and Christianity together. Paying homage to pagan rites is nothing new in Christianty. The Blessing of the Animals happens in thousands of churches at different times of the year. My Presbyterian church does it the Saturday before Easter each year.

lisa
lisa

WE NEED JESUS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT ONLY HE CAN SAVE US THROUGH HIS PRECIOUS BLOOD. the Bible says in Ehphisian 6:13 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. you see the word of God already warned us of these things well before this whole website was even created so open your eyes ppl and seek the Lord. so many of these evil things in these articles are directed at Christianity and not any other religion why not Islam why not Judaism ….. its because satan is real and he does not want you to have a relationship with God and i mean the true and living God not the god in other religions but the God who loves US unconditionally It is clear that satan is rulling the world and so many people are influenced by him through the media and all sorts and its even more scary to know that he finds his ways into the church a place which is meant to be holy. There are churches which openly… Read more »

Sat
Sat

I've only recently started following VC's work, and I've found it to be an eye-opening experience. But for the first time, I've read something that I don't agree with. And it's the statement "God IS in fact separate from the Earth (in the Heavens)".

Now, I'm not a christian, and this is how I see it. Isn't the Earth God's creation? Is He separate and distinct from His creation? I think not.

Keep up the good work, VC.

P.S. @ "Jay", post 181 . . . please don't quote the Vedas to support your Abrahamic spiel.

Dirk van L eeuwarden
Dirk van L eeuwarden

A clean well. That's what I'm waiting for. No Masonic symbols by BP?

Branwen
Branwen

Very intriguing article, though I must say that there is nothing wrong with respecting the environment or Earth or worshiping Gaia (Gaia is more of the idea of viewing the Earth as an organism). I do agree and have always said and thought since I was very young, that we, as humans, are acting like cancer on the Earth. The idea of "God" is the "All That Is," therefore I must disagree with you in your comment of God being separate and not one with the Earth. "God," or the "All That Is"…the One Collective Consciousness…the infinite interconnectedness of all things as proven in physics, is in everything. Therefore I am all for promoting seeing God not just in the Heavens, but in the Earth…and also in our hearts, and in the animals, in the plants…"God" is in all things, and this is a crucial realization that we all need to awaken to in order to not be cancer on the Earth. I would not be so quick as to classify revering or worshiping the Earth as devil worship…being evil leads to the lack of respect of all things……revering the Earth is not evil. Revering God is not evil. Revering… Read more »

JON JON
JON JON

I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS BUILDING A FEW TIMES AND I ALWAYS GET THE CREEPS.

Stephanie
Stephanie

Blessing the bicycles…xD

I'm just gonna go bless my iPod, my computer, and my speakers now…so that they too can have a chance at Heaven 😀

Bai
Bai

The tourists' video reminded me of Hostel 2. Creepy. 🙁

On
On
Jay
Jay

People, quit acting like Paganism was the "original" religion. Just because many forms of paganism predate SOME of the Abrahamic faiths, does not mean everybody was a pagan before Moses. The earliest Rigvedas state monotheism, for example; " sa eYa ekx ekxvaRdokx eva | à Aqava-vaod 13ó4ó20" "Verily He is one Single, indivisible, supreme reality." – Atharva Veda 13/4/20 " ekxao ivaEvasya Bauvanasya rajaa | à Pgvaod 6ó36ó4" "He is the sole sovereign Of the universe." – Rig Veda 6/36/4 And what about Zoroaster? The public are BLATANTLY being deceived into Gaia worship/ Pantheism/ Satanism, all these things. Get over it. pull your head out. ONE GOD ONE MESSIAH On a side note; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lssaVu_eyso&fe…

Another Perspective
Another Perspective

Interesting. I will ask this, is the Catholic church even a true church anyway? I mean until they said otherwise, the sabbath was on Saturday…..(still is for Jews….isn't that Jesus' lineage? And oh yeah, in Exodus 20, the sabbath was included in one of the first commandments)……..they (those dern catholics) changed it to Sunday and slaughtered anyone who opposed anything that they put out as "God's law" from 538 – 1798…..the pope is considered god on Earth…..and not to mention they place a great deal of worship on Mary, and other things that have nothing to do with true worship of God…since when did you need beads to pray? And they remixed the bible….that book of Tobias is a trip…I have never heard someone speak so highly of himself in "scripture"….if that was supposed to be inspired by God….puh-lease. And since when was any human being able to forgive your sins? According to Catholic doctrine…the priest can…in that little confessional booth….smh. And if I'm not mistaken, the Catholic doctrine places emphasis on good works and giving to the church……as though one could work or buy their way into heaven…………only thing is, that isn't true. Babylon the great….is more likely the… Read more »

oddfellow
oddfellow

If you think getting your bicycle blessed is stupid, then you've never biked in N.Y.

isis
isis

Tantra-Yoga it is not a form of sexual black magic. Please don't do this kind of association in your article.

zach
zach

To bad for the Rothschilds the book of Revelation is about the judgment and destruction of Apostate Jerusalem in 70 AD. They know this, that is why they are trying to rewrite history and paint the US/NY as Babylon when Babylon is clearly identified in Revelations as Jerusalem.

These people are idiots – none of what they want is going to happen.

Poncho
Poncho

Oh crap. I almost forgot. Have you written anything about the Three Secrets of Fatima?

Poncho
Poncho

I'm not even gonna lie. I mostly read this site for kicks but I have to admit. You make some great points.

Jon R.
Jon R.

"And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord." Joshua 24:15 For those that want to compare Christianity to "paganism"(other world religions) note an interesting anomaly. Yes, Pantheism and Polytheism existed before Jesus, but the worship never carried the same story of the Messiah until after 150 AD. Look into it yourself. The only religion close to the story of a Savior, which is in the Old and New Testament, Is the Egyptian religion. Where Osiris is put back together by Isis, but he is resurrected into the realm of the dead so technically he is not a god of the living but one of the dead. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." Ephesians 5:11 A misconception in Witchcraft. Yes, there is "light" and "dark" witchcraft, this is called duality. Essentially Lucifer/Satan worship. The similar symbols are used and the SAME spirits are… Read more »

britt
britt

ohh heck no! i'am highly offended by the first comment. i cant believe you would be so stupid to denounce God and Jesus both if you were to read ur bible you would see that Gods words are related to many things that have happened in this day and age and if your such a non believer than what the hell are you reading this article for anyway…get a life and have some faith…

Katherina
Katherina

I am amazed … depressed … because this is what i was led to believe since the day i joined the youth UNESCO back when I was 11 years old. I am deeply chocked ….. I cannot express how disgusted I feel right now … by all this… GO WITH GOD everyone … not with this … Sun and earth worship or moon worship … They are creatures and we are creatures too .. but we have to Worship OUR CREATOR nothing else =((

James
James

Well done Vigilant. These processions of ghouls and blessings of bicycles etc just make me shake my head and pity the poor fools who actually participate in these things. Just unbelievable. Why even still call it Christian or Catholic? Just call yourself "St. John the humanistic pagan Cathedral." How can anyone sitting in on those "services" and events even remotely think this is Christian or "Holy?" And the whole twin towers pillar makes me nervous. Esp since the Illuminati may posses the technology to manipulate weather http://themurkynews.blogspot.com/2008/05/chapter-… NYC may very well be destroyed in the near future in order to help the Illuminati pass some monumental piece of legislation to take away our freedoms and move us all closer towards the Novus Ordo. Things like this, to me, just show so clearly that there are select groups controlling this country and this world. People who are presented with this evidence and deny it simply are afraid of the truth. For me, the evidence is just overwhelming. I wish I was wrong, I really wish I was. I wish I could just blow off all this Illuminati, Freemasonic, Kaballah infiltration and indoctrination as rumors and garbage. But presented with all of… Read more »

Cities of Christ
Cities of Christ

We are in the last days of this age, it is important to note as Christians that the Devil knows he has a very short time and he is doing everything to deceive as many saints as he can. Please to all brethren, all the Truth can set you free from the deception of the Evil One. Come to Jesus all ye that labour and are heavy laden,and he will give you rest.

TJ
TJ

p.s. the Illuminati claim to be "illuminated" but in reality they represent the forces of Darkness. This can also be referred to as the "false light". They say the devil can transform himself into an "angel of light". This is NOT the real light. It is a trick designed to deceive the gullible. It is all based on perversion of truth. I am a Pagan and I believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ, master of the TRUE Light.

I C U
I C U

TJ, you are so close to the Truth. I pray that you get there before it is too late. May the Lord deliver you, and bless you.

TJ
TJ

p.s. I'm a Pagan, I practice "white magick", which is the REAL illumination of the TRUE Light. The "illumination" discussed by the Illuminati is that of the FALSE light. Almost nobody understands the difference. See how evil this elite is? They take something as pure as illumination and claim it as their own! It is a lie.

Also, even though I am Pagan, I believe in Jesus Christ and all that he stood and stands for…the TRUE Light.

TJ
TJ

One thing I've learned is that EVERYTHING related to religion including Paganism has been convoluted to CONFUSE the masses. In reality this universe and beyond, including our own reality here on Earth is spiritual. Paganism existed long before Christianity and Christ ever came along. Some believe that Christ himself practiced a form of Paganism. I'm a Pagan myself. HOWEVER there is a stark difference between differing SECTS of Pagan ritual. Needless to say the type that the Illuminati practice is of the Dark sort (black magick) which is a distortion of Paganism's original intent. Indigenous cultures throughout the world ALSO practice a form of Paganism, but unlike that used by the Illuminati, it is not for evil intents and purposes, at least not all of it is. There is something called "White magick" which is a subject that is universally ignored by those who condemn Paganism and the Illuminati's Black magick. So we are all left to assume that ALL Paganism is evil which is not the case. It's been said that the devil is the master of deceit which is very true. Organized religion DOES need an overhaul. There DOES need to be a new "world order" that respects,… Read more »

raven
raven

i want to respond to what SHANE has said way back 2009, there is nothing wrong worshiping the sun, but as the writer said, messing up with peoples religion is evil, if you think our God is imaginary, it's OK, its Ur opinion…

but, as i am saying, never deceive people into thinking they are worshiping whoever they're god, while in reality, they are worshiping other god instead….

messing up beliefs is evil, so don't mess up our belief that God is real…

and if you don't believe in God, atheist maybe, believe in evil, and what you are saying is blatantly evil….

raven
raven

here in the philippines we bless vehicles and houses, is it paganism also…

it's like, father bless this car for the safety of those riding on it bah blah blah… is it really bad enough???

pop goes the weezle
pop goes the weezle

anybody notice the same idea is preached in the movie "avatar".. the planet pandora is their diety and the navi as some kinda consciousness of the planet.. the human body is depicted as some kinda inferior parasite that cant cope with the laws of pandora and eventually, jake the human gives up his god give human body to be replaced with a far advanced one, NAVI.. smells to me like eugenics dont you think?

Zippcodey
Zippcodey

The Great W***e is not the Catholic Church, it is Jerusalem. Rome is where the woman this false religion sits now, but the Pope will move from Rome to Jerusalem to rule the One World Order from there. Jerusalem will become the One World Capital. If you check it out you will find Rome sits on 7 hills or mountains and so does Jerusalem. But Jerusalem is the W***e because she left the real truth, not Rome. Christianity is the religion that will obsorb all other religions.

Zippcodey
Zippcodey

TEMPUS, if Satan was kicked out of heaven to this earth, and Yahweh is proven in Scriptures to have spacecraft, then Satan has them here on earth and those are what is being seen. Just before Yahweh returns when all armies go against Jerusalem is when Yahweh will come in spacecraft and He will wipe the armies out along with Satan and his angels who have spacecraft too. The skies will be full of them all over the world at that time, it's going to be one awesome site.

Zippcodey
Zippcodey

Christianity is pagan to the core. It's a mixture of Judaism and Paganism. When you ride the train of Christianity you ride the tracks of Paganism. Christianity is a big house with a lot of rooms, each room is a different denomination like Catholic, Pentecostal, Baptist, Methodist, Amish and so on, where people try taking other people from one room to another, when you look up you will find you are all under the same roof. There is a key to get you out of that house. You must study the Old Covenant and Israel to find it.

Sparklydiva
Sparklydiva

Wow, you guys need to get a grip.

You can interpret practically ANY ritual any way you want, depending on your beliefs! For some, Christian rituals are just as startling and confusing as any pagan ritual. I mean, we DO kneel before the image of a tortured dead man nailed to a piece of wood and claim to eat and drink human flesh during christian church services!

Lim Lynn
Lim Lynn

@Sparklydiva

Matthew 26, Mark 14, Luke 22, 1 Corinthians 11

Luke 24:30, Acts 2:42, 46 , Acts 20:7, 11 Acts 24:11

Do you mean the LORD Supper/Communion? It's a new covenant constituted by LORD Jesus Christ in remembrance of what he had done to redeem us from sin, death and hell for the 11 disciples done before Judas Iscariot betray him. Actually, I feel uneasy to use these terms: Eucharist and Mass since Catholics love to use these terms. After water baptism you get to join the other Body of Christ to partake the LORD Supper.
http://www.greatbiblestudy.com/communion_judgment

rachel miller
rachel miller

Its not about your actions its about your faith in Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior knowing he died on the cross and rose again to save us from the sin that we live in everyday. We have to be ready for whatever comes and I have faith in my Lord Jesus Christ that he will kick butt.

Michael
Michael

Also I feel that I must mention while being meek and humble are what we are called to do. It is not wrong to rebuke a man that is truly evil. But it must be done on an individual level. And true evil should only be applied to those who willingly and knowingly offend the lord and his commandments. And by knowingly and willingly I mean those men that have known the scriptures to be true and/or have known the presence of the holy spirit and understood its purpose. They who would still seek to offend the lord for worldly gain and refuse to repent are truly evil. All other "evil" is born of a lack of knowledge and misguidance. We should educate the "evil men" and show them the bounty of loving thine neighbor. Not lash out at what we fear and harm a misguided man. War is now a construct of the enemy. In this day and age global communication is easily obtained so there need not ever be another war. But this is a fallen world and there will be war. Soon there will be a Holocaust upon the christian people themselves. I am reminded of wise… Read more »

Michael
Michael

Any real christian can point out a false christian and the majority are false. They have soiled our name and our teachings. Murder has been committed in the name of every faith. And if you are a real christian you need to rebuke blood being spilled by our people and in our name. Jesus told us to love our neighbor. Not carpet bomb his country because your nation tells you that it is right. You should be meek and humble and trust in the lord for your protection not the strength of your arms. This is but your mortal coil and he will call you home today or tomorrow so you should have no fear. Your death is an inevitability and your place in heaven is guaranteed. SO TURN THE OTHER CHEEK! We are supposed to share the word of god. And that he is the way the truth and the light. But we need to watch the means by witch we seek to spread this truth. Means tainted with evil will taint the message. And so much conquest has already been done in our name that we have lost all credibility to modern society. We appear as prideful hypocrites.… Read more »

K
K

I hate how people read the article and then just used the information to defend their own fractured beliefs.

If you have to use this article as "proof" for why you don't like atheists or Christians that don't practice the way you do, why bother?

IH8Allzionists
IH8Allzionists

9/10 Americans dont belive in a religion anymore so i think the illuminati have accomplished their objectives and goals. The few that are watching them closely should alert the blind idiots out there, or atleast present them the idea of it. From what i see, we have a long way to go to get everyone on the same page and focus. Obama is a Terrorist along with all the people in Congress and Gov't.

Rome
Rome

@ Webgal are you serious? Wikipedia is your source??? LOL

Melissa
Melissa

Wow!!! As a Catholic, at first I was scared thinking that it was a Catholic cathedral, I was so relieved that it's Episcopalian, otherwise know "Catholic Lite". WHAT ARE THE EPISCOPALIAN SMOKING!!!! The sanctury is only for the worship of God and Holy Communion, not for an S/M fashion show. This just gives me more proof that the REAL presence of Jesus Christ in the Blessed Sacrament is non existant in the Episcopalian church, how sad!!!

C
C

Just for the sake of clarity, the Cathedral Church of Saint John the Divine, the Cathedral of the Episcopal Diocese of New York. So it is an Episcopal church in case anybody was wondering.

FresnoJoe
FresnoJoe

Amen!

"No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD." Isaiah 54:17

Amen!

"Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen." 1 John 5:21

Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

Love, Your Brother Joe

Zuvuya
Zuvuya

Creator exists on all levels of reality that is of living and natural form. There are dark forces at work in every religion and in every social structure since the beginning of the existence of social forms. Although there are many positives of all spiritual traditions as well. If you believe what other people feed you especially "authorities" then you are just letting other people and forces run your life and beliefs, out of fear and ignorance instead of thinking and seeking truth for yourself. To have gratitude to the aspects of reality that are here on the earth and universe, like other people, the food you are blessed with, the sun, the stars, plants, animals, mother earth can be the greatest way of giving that gratitude and love back to creator. Believing in some wrathful force that exists in "heaven" is the reason that people have no respect for the earth and are so disconnected from the impact they are having everyday on what happens to the the earth and all her relations (plants, animals, water, people…). Have reverence for what is here and the way you live and what you choose to put in your body and that… Read more »

Justntru
Justntru

To the author of this article — It's amazing how twisted up the mind can become when trying to understand something that it cannot comprehend. To take the virtue of the masonic principles, with all of their noble intentions and twist them into some perverse form – simplistic tales of devil-worship, etc – is only a sign of an un-evolved soul, brainwashed by the church fathers who praised ignorance and suffering and martyrdom in place of wisdom. Sad that you are so intellectually stilted, sadder still that you defend and justify your shortcomings! Do yourself and your readers a favor and rethink the various "pagan" rituals in the light of reason instead of the fear and superstition that you have been spoon-fed from the christian-conspirators over the centuries. You may see that the statue of liberty for instance, was and is a symbol of illumination of the higher principles; of triumph of the soul over the lesser human animal nature in which it imprisoned….sent as a symbol for a free society, and a hope for a new chance to bolster the human spirit in the New World, better known as America. That was the ideal! The all-seeing eye of providence… Read more »

Jiggs
Jiggs

Great article, informative, challenging, and controversial. My cup of tea, thanks for the effort. The comments section gives me little hope for the human race. What. A. Zoo.

jayd
jayd

the only way they can really install their new world order is if they install fear of being christian into your minds. this fact gives me a bad forshadowing of bad things to come, but will stay true to god with an open mind to all true religions.

please forgive them god, for they do not know what they are doing.

Ignacio
Ignacio

There are no gods or God. So all of this is ridiculous.

josepe
josepe

perhaps we are just cowards showing what we think it can be the truth, but at the end is just misconception

of something we cannot understand,

we have let villains run this country, now we speak out of bitterness .

Let us not talk anymore and do something about it , let your government representatives know you care for your country and you don't want anymore shenanigans

Tempus Mutantis
Tempus Mutantis

ALL,ALL,ALL religions are MIND-PRISONS!, constructed by ANNUNAKI to keep humans stupid and controllable till they can be finished off and the Planet taken over by them. Thats why they spray the sky with chem-trails; to change the atmo-sphere to fit them. Rot and Rock (schild and feller) are their stupid ,subhuman lackeys as are Obama Bin Lyin and most politicians and military. You can actually exist even if you dont buy into their non-sense and word-wrangling idiocy. Humans OWN the Planet , aliens are here without an invitation. Next come the "false UFO-attack-heralded by Kissinger.

ottimista
ottimista

All organized religions have as their primary motive control over their faithful. If these faithful came to relaize that there is in fact no Heaven, no Olam HaEmet, no 72 virgins waiting for you, that what they have while living on this earth is all there is, then one would see a massive revolt against the poverty, hunger and want politicians and “spititual” leaders foist upon them.

kiko
kiko

Man I love your site. You have an unbelivable eye for catching the true meaning of what we percieve to be innocent and harmless rituals and art. Peace

vladimir
vladimir

God lives through intention. Evil and good can be found in intention. Sure, a lot of this stuff going on in the church looks harmless, and the people having fun with it are probably harmless too, but the key is intention. Do you guys know that the peace symbol is actual a witch symbol? Yeah everyone loves peace and what not, but the peace symbol is actually a broken cross, which was worshiped by witches or people who practiced the craft instead of the regular cross, to show they're dismay for the church. So now the world over has been deluded into thinking what they thought was a symbol for peace, because most people are ignorant of their own ancestral histories and religious mysteries. Their is nothing new under the sun. The past is the key to the present and the future. Now there is probably nothing wrong with the powers of magic and learning witchcraft or natural healing and what not. Alchemist also studied in these things to learn the powers of transmutation. However, when you use these powers freely to become your own gods, which is what these elitist are trying to do, such as the Rockefellers and… Read more »

vladimir
vladimir

Pretty much Christianity is a pagan religion, disguised with popes, lordships and kings to worship. However, its ruling function is to worship the sun. That is why the story of christ is the same story as if you worshiped the sun gods of egypt or babylon. What the real evil here is that the truth is being denied from us. Buildings and geometric shapes do have real power. Magic does have real power if people convene and worship it. If it didn't then why did so many groups and ancient religions practice it. Even if these so called pagan rituals didn't real physical manifestations, just the point that it made people happier and more secure worshiping them, simply means that these incantations still have power because they can physically alter your reality. That is why myth is also stronger than truth, or can become truth. The real evil here I believe is that these groups, like the Illuminati or the Vatican, or other great mystery schools, are withholding knowledge which should be available to everyone. If you want to worship the Devil, or whatever naturalistic, craft or god you to want worship, then go right ahead. But like the author… Read more »

Jinx
Jinx

Seriously, people must read and learn more natural sciences like physics, astronomy etc. Science is best way to understand world and it gives most accurate picture about universe/world. In my mind all religions, believers and occultists are plain idiots. I have little bit more respect towards occultists like freemasons than regular believers like christians – since they are more open minded – but in the end all believers and occultists are blind men which do not know what they are talking about. God i hate stupid ppl and GOD i hate imaginary gods.

Just educate yourselves and you will see that you dont need to explain world by any supernatural powers. It makes me sad that in year 2010 ppl are so superstitious.

Peace and prosperity

Marilyn
Marilyn

"Al Gore has been a guest several times at the Cathedral of St.John the Divine where he infamously said “God is not separate from the Earth“.

But of course he is not: God is everywhere, his can reach everyone and everything. Have you ever thought of that?

…and then you continue: "Well, in Christianity, Judaism and Islam, God IS in fact separate from the Earth (in the Heavens). If you decipher Gore’s phrase: God = Earth = Earth is God"

You can try to "decipher" Al Gore, but he is very easy to understand.

His documentary, "The Inconvenient Truth" won a Academy Award, and then he was awarded the Noble Peace Price for his effort to bring awareness to global warning. Al Gore did a lot so far in his life, he is a doer and an achiever. He does not need to decode, he and his actions were plane simple.

Vigilant, I like some of your writings, but this article made me a bit disappointed.

But keep up the work, interesting, as always.

Marilyn
Marilyn

I live in NY for over 11 years now, and I visit this Cathedral often. It is an interesting building, and the sculpture garden next to it is also great.

The Halloween event on the video was a theater piece, not a worship of the devil. The Cathedral might be sinister to some, but there is nothing wrong with it.

It promotes the love of God to everyone, regardless of their religion, and I believe that that is very important.

Also, the environment is very important and all the people in it. It is up to us, whether we all have a good place to live in or not. The environment is not just the nature: we all belong to it and we have to take care of it.

I alwas thought, that only a very peaceful and intelligent human being can understand this church.

Shaneka
Shaneka

OK.. i know I did NOT hear "When The saints Go Marching In"? in that Halloween Festival clip.. bout 7:10 into it… all of it was blasphemy!

and if your looking for a political switch hoping your choosing the better side.. then read this:
http://www.illuminati-news.com/moriah.htm

attention : THERE IS NO BETTER SIDE.

you better get on Gods side.

Shannon
Shannon

For the people who are here to speak of how all of this is nonsense.

GO BACK TO FOX NEWS! this is truth. you are afraid to see it.

Ann
Ann

Great great article. thank you so much! God bless and continue giving you strength to help us all.

Jarod Benjamin Morga
Jarod Benjamin Morga

The Pillars are uncommentable. I like the bronze work. I now know where i would like to spend my next halloween. Bicycles are cool, just ask anyone. and other stuff/

:ftw

JesusIsLife
JesusIsLife

If many cathedrals and churches have been built by freemasons (or other anti-christian brotherhoods), that must mean they have insiders in high levels of the catholic administration to let them win important contracts as the built of St. John the Divine Cathedral, the biggest cathedral in the world. I mean, the simple fact of building huge churches with tons of symbols is a raison enough to ask ourselves who those builders want to glorify? God, Jesus the Savior of humanity, or themselves (as gods)? Knowing who built this just confirms the anti-christian aspect of this cathedrals and its activity INSIDE what's supposed to be a church, the House of the God of Jesus-Christ. Not surprising when they proudly say about their achievements as listed above : "Little need be added to the story of Freemasonry during the cathedral-building period; its monuments are its best history, alike of its genius, its faith and its symbols.” From the Masonic World, march 1925. What's more cynical is the mean purpose of their works when they build these churches: to glorify themselves with the beauty of architectural art which attracts lots of people (what's beautiful or desirable is always attractive, wonder why they are… Read more »

linda
linda

The Saint Lucia ritual is not pagan. It comes from Sweden, were we celebrate the Saint who, in order not to marry her non-Christian husband, toke her eyes out and was later burned to death for doing these things. She isn't pagan, the ritual isn't pagan. We don't worship the girl, we just celebrate her.

Lulubelle
Lulubelle

There is a professor called Walter Veith who has a site called, "Amazing Discoveries". He deals with a lot of the relationships between secret societies (why are they secret if they are doing nothing wrong?) and how they will bring about the fulfillment of the prophecies in Revelation. He is strictly biblical in his presentations about that, and uses quotes from famous people and important sources to prove his point. A remarkable series called, "Total Onslaught". All the videos can be viewed for free in medium and low quality on the site. You can also find many of these elsewhere. I recommend watching from the earliest number to the highest, as you need to know certain things to build the next point.

Thank you for this excellent site. I plan to read a lot more here.

Webgal
Webgal

The White robes are a sign of purity and worn by christian monks and priest quite often – The idea is to wear a simple, unpretentious, unadorned robe – something like Christ might wear … Its called an ALB, and is available through clergy supply shops – http://www.catholicchurchsupply.com/category/1438… Wikipedia says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alb The alb, one of the liturgical vestments of the Roman Catholic, Anglican and many Protestant churches, is an ample white garment coming down to the ankles and usually girdled with a cincture. It is simply the long linen tunic used by the Romans. In Early Medieval Europe it was also normally worn by secular clergy in non-liturgical contexts.[1] It is the oldest liturgical vestment, and was adopted very early by Christians, and especially by the clergy for the Eucharistic liturgy. Nowadays, the alb is the common vestment for all ministers at Mass, both clerics and laypersons, and is worn over the cassock and under any other special garments, such as the stole, dalmatic or chasuble. If the alb does not completely cover the collar, an amice is often worn underneath the alb. The shortening of the alb for use outside a church has given rise to the surplice and… Read more »

lahinar lamir
lahinar lamir

Romans 1:10 -32 says.they know God but will not warship him,instead of worshiping him,they warship but the things he has created.in this manner God has abandon them to their wicked desires and now men turn to desire men and women turn to desire women for sex which is against the laws of nature and therefore they will face the punishment which they rightfully deserve.now i know Christianity is the true religion.it is the only book that has foretold the coming of time and they are happening in my time.V.C thank u very much.it is time for me to move closer to God than b4.cos what i have seen, hum Jesus might come sooner than we expected.cos he said when u start seeing the abominations in the holy places let those who live in houses flee to the mountains.and that is it already happening in saint John Cathedral.

Fake Melody
Fake Melody

I agree with 99 percent of this article, but St. John is NOT credited for writing the Book of Revelation… Peter is.

LVB
LVB

Duncan,

GREAT COMMENT!

Duncan Idaho
Duncan Idaho

"Mahatma Gandi said: “Truth is God and God is Truth.” One must then ask ‘What is truth?’"

There was a guy in the Bible who asked that same question.

AC
AC

Is it just me or do the people in white robes with the pointed hats look like the KKK? I believe the KKK got their style from these folks…seriously. Also, isnt is weird that KKK used to burn crosses, but claimed to be a christian group?

VW
VW

Well hate to say it but the only thing that is REALLY weird are the Halloween procession and the sculpture/pillars you pointed out. Those are weird.

Animals however used to spend days in the Cathedrals of Europe. At Easter (another pagan holiday made Christian) in Polish Catholic churches people bring their food to be blessed so you kind of veer off to make a point on something that actually is quite normal. I think you miss out by not accepting the fact that Constantine decided that making everyone follow Christianity was going to unite all of the civilized world at that time AND incorporated the "pagan" observances in of Solstice, etc.

yo
yo

please site this quote you used VC

“The Temple’s purpose is to facilitate the one world religion, through the promoting both the acceptance and the embrace of all religions, beliefs and rituals. The Temple of Understanding’s Meditation Room was to be known as the “Hall of Illumination”‘ where the Illuminati, Masters of Wisdom, Our Leaders of the Temple of Understanding will train the public in the new humanistic cult…to create a new type of mystic”

Patrickg
Patrickg

"and glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls!" … don't know if you are aware of this, but approximately half of the USA's 8200 tons of gold are in NYC depositories; along with additional thousands of tons held on behalf of commodities traders, the very wealthy, other nations, etc. As well, the diamond trade is very large in NYC. Not sure about pearls however.

K.G.Kruger
K.G.Kruger

Mahatma Gandi said: "Truth is God and God is Truth." One must then ask 'What is truth?'

Didn't most religions come from paganism in the first place? Religions certainly incorporated pagan holidays, rituals, and festivals. This cathedral "extravaganza" looks like the "grand masked ball" in Venice. The costumes are right out of a Hieronymus Bosch painting! Maybe he was painting something he saw. This is high drama and theatre to entertain the "flock." Please recognize that religion is entertainment and must compete to keep it's members and convert new followers. The purpose of religions has always been to engender conflict, duality, and blind faith, so why are these bizarre rituals surprising? Personally I see nothing wrong with honoring the sun, stars, earth, nature, the universe, etc. Most religious "saviors" were sun gods anyway. "A person afflicted by false knowledge suffers from delusion and believes he alone has seen the true light." Religions play upon delusions endlessly. Thanks for these fascinating posts and videos! Your website is great!!

Pam
Pam

The blessing of bicycles is nothing to make fun of, as a Catholic I have blessed my house and my car, its just that Catholics believe in divine protection of the person when the possessions are blessed, and NY has a large bicycle riding population, so the riders, through their faith , believe in the protection given to them by this ritual, its something that happens in Catholic churches throughout the world.

Mattias
Mattias

LoL! The Lucia celebration is a fairly recent Christmas custom in Sweden. It has no occult significance. It started out as a student event at the university of Uppsala in the late 1800s. Most of the songs sung are christian hymns or christmas carrols about Santa and the like. Lucia was a saint of Italy who did good to poor people. The allusions to light has no other meaning than that december in Sweden is very dark and a little bit of light and beauty cheers us up. With that said the very date for Lucia celebration goes back to pre christian times in Scandinavia. However none of the rituals performed in heathen times are present in the Lucia celebration. It is about as upsetting as a christmas tree.

anna
anna

WHOA! This is all too intense! :/

fokouadiane
fokouadiane

Perfect job vigilant citizen

Thanks will not be enough to express our gratitude for your devotion.

shannon
shannon

Really? YOGA has been condemned by the CHURCH??? Since when???

You guys had me interested. However, I only found one error (Yoga) however this leads me to believe that you may have more in your article (some cultures I cannot speak of due to lack of knowledge on my part. Indian culture I am quite aware of.)

They Live
They Live

Tid Bit: The "Master Building" has a perfect view overlooking this cathedral from the very top of the building. The Master Building was built in honor of Nicholas Roerich, a Russian mystic who played a major part in the FDR administration, it was during this administration that the "Great Seal" was placed on the one dollar bill. The position of the Master Building in perfect vision with St. John the Divine Cathedral is certainly not a coincidence, as they are both representations of evil work done against God and humanity.

Dave
Dave

Very accurate. Bravo.

John
John

" Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." – JOHN 8:44

GEM
GEM

To all my Christians reading this post; do not concern yourselves with things of this passing world. Be separate from it and hold firm to your faith and the truth and grace that abide in you. Once you learn to control your tongue and master your own sinful desires that wage war against your spirit, you will be able to overcome the evil that seeks to defile you with its tainted fruit. ALL of the entertainment industry, not limited to movies, music, radio, and books is controlled by deprived perverted men and women who worship SATAN and serve him willingly. Do not defile yourselves with this cleverly and at times subtlety concealed witchcraft. Do not believe all the hyped up monarch programming and such as it is nothing more than a state of demon possession. The TRUTH is simple, every single one of the people you may or may not recognize as evil has willingly entered into a state of possession and once that happens they are no longer able to control their thoughts, words, or deeds. That is what possession is all about, i.e., not being able to control your urges and in essence not being in control of… Read more »

Arielle
Arielle

SHANE you've comitted blasphamy! the sin thats not forgiven. understand this, if u believe there is no GOD, tell me how the word and concept of GOD came about??? you have no clue do u? thought so. God, Jesus, and the holy ghost are one in the same, we as a people are put on this earth to serve God! He is our creator and provider. U should've really thought and prayed before you opened your mouth. Whether you believe or no, God is real! there is no such thing as weapons of mass destruction, ITS PLAINLY A HOLY WAR! a fight for the holy land. for all those reading this take time to read your bibles. Since we're talking about sun worship, here's a good quote "there's nothing new under the sun!" all of these clues && new world order stuff, was prophicy from the bible! The devil is at work to damn MAN to hell, as he is himself. Pray, Get your relationship right with GOD! the end is upon us, and you need to make a difference. the narrow path is the path to righteousness! meaning, not everybody is gonna make it. Free will= your chose to… Read more »

evan
evan

I had absolutely no idea whatsoever that these things took place in this cathedral. I cannot believe what i saw and read. It's the worlds largest satanic temple, right in the middle of NYC. THank you for this article.

Alex
Alex

Could someone with greater knowledge of St. Paul / New Testament help me out here? The writer of this article concludes with a warning from Paul to the Corinthians that seems extremely hypocritical, and undermines/contradcits the writers' entire argument — look: "…for such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder. For satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light." (ll Corinthians 11:13-15) Correct me if I'm wrong…but didn't Paul see a LIGHT on the way to Damascus, that claimed to be the Christ (whom Paul never actually met in the flesh)? And didn't Paul them APPOINT HIMSELF as one of Christ's apostles? So who is Paul to preach to anyone, to beware of "false apostles" who "transform themselves into apostles of Christ"… that might be deceived by "satan himself" transforming himself into an "angel of light?" Am I the only one who caught this? Can someone out there please comment on this? I'm not trying to be satirical either. But this Corinthians passage not only makes me question the legitimacy of this writer's argument (judging St. John's as not being Christian) — but its now got me questioing whether Paul was full… Read more »

Jeffery
Jeffery

Our end goal is a positive one. The youth of future generations will be illuminated to this fact. Ignorance, fear and superstition have ruled for so long that we must whittle away at the numbers in order to start over again with the same power structure and begin again correctly…

read between the lin
read between the lin

Good work VC, I thought they had creepy things happen there as well. The Episcopalians have definitely undergone some interesting changes this past year. Not to mention they have an abundance of gay ministers. Obama's opening prayer was performed by a gay Episcopalian minister, if I remember correctly.

League of the Truth
League of the Truth

VC, you are amazing in your research. I would argue that much like the protocols of Zion, revelations serves as a game plan for the illuminated ones, passed down (whispered) thought the generations. St John the Divine is no more prophetic than Nostradamus. It can't be prophetic if there are groups of people behind the scenes who are working to make those very "prophesies" come true. Hmm i.e. the brothers Grimm. I implore all to see pass the veils in which the illusion weavers have spun and that includes all so called prophetic writings. Everyone who would like to decontextualize "prophetic works", and quote them for there own argumentation should realize one blasphemy can not be used to replace another. The "secret" to all esoteric works is … intention. If your intention is love, love will be returned to you. If inequity is aspired, then hate will be returned to you. E=mc2. Spoken from a true "illuminated" one such as Einstein. If you choose to serve the masters of dualism then you will befall your own conceptual design. Namaste

John
John

The Fool has said in his heart there is no God

Bob
Bob

@jessah – Don't despair about these things, satan will use anything and anybody that he can to keep you from the truth. I think many or most of your questions and concerns are covered here. There is a lot of info so take your time and browse around, specially the Q&A section.
http://www.biblestudysite.com/

David C.
David C.

Hey, Bob, I looked at your "Non-Denominational Endtime Bible-Based Christian Studies,
Current Events, and Christian Questions & Answers" website and saw a lot of anti-Catholic stuff there. Do you know that this is a Protestant cathedral, not a Catholic one? Unfortunately, it seems that satan has used something and somebody to keep you and jessah from the truth. Well, now you know.

earth-civilian
earth-civilian

the city of new york is gona be destroyed by atomic bomb

the zionist wil do it and finally blame iran for it

like sept eleven you know the did and blame the muslims;)

al you have to the is read the protocols simple

jessah
jessah

OMG!!! So that’s the reason why we celebrate Christmas?(Paul Winter’s Winter Solstice Celebration)
Another question, the celebration of Christmas is a pagan ritual?

This is another shocking revelation.

Hey can you make an article about the Catholics, the Popes, etc. What are there roles? Are they evil?

Please answer me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im very very confuse….. And seeking for the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!

CoverYourEars
CoverYourEars

@Andrei…Church is all about communion–being amongst other believers of the same faith. It is to stay focused, be encouraged, fellowship, growth, learning, and solidifying the foundation, as being around non-believers and people of other faiths tend to slowly, gradually affect ones own beliefs.

Mr. Snyder
Mr. Snyder

SOLOMON SORRY…

Mr. Snyder
Mr. Snyder

hmmmm. Shane when will you believe in GOD?? When the moon is covered in blood?? Do you need to see something in order to know it is there?? I can not see oxygen but I know it's there… I can not see gravity but I know it's there! Historians Christian and unchristian alike can never say that Jesus did not exist.. That's like saying the Roman empire didn't exist.. He did exist, he did perform miracles, he is Lord of Lords!! One of the wisest men who ever lived was King Soloman, in the book of Proverbs he said " Only the fool says in his heart there is no God".. The earth is a testimony to his existance! Open your eyes…… God Bless

Acra
Acra

I am deeply shocked, DISGUSTED and REVOLTED that such idolatry can take place in a "church". There is no way that God can be glorified in the same place as evil. It is a shame and gives Christianity a bad name. May God have mercy on the Church proprietors.

adrianna
adrianna

Jesus, have mercy on us!

ReikiRebel
ReikiRebel

It seems we have learnt nothing … we still prefer to find seperation then togetherness via acceptance that we can be different !

The God in my heart is about compassion, compassion for all living things, all beliefs, as long as we live with compassion we learn, we grow and flow more with ourselves, nature and all we don't understand, when we see beyond the narrowminded "its has to be my way" then we evolve spiritually with compassion.

There is little compassion in these times, just finger pointing, blame and judgement of those who do not side with our views, no responsibility taking for the way we live, just blame and take …. what a terrible shame.

RR

actually...
actually...

actually in Christianity God is NOT separate from creation. In Him we live, move, and have our being. How can God be Omnipresent(everywhere present) and separate from creation? Heaven is not a location. Here’s another example of humans corrupting spiritual concepts with their own limited mortal/physical concepts.

smellofcoffee
smellofcoffee

I have been doing alot of research because of sites like this and realize that alot of things that appear to be Christian have been heavily influenced by illuminati etc., but what the following said : “Occultists believe that the Book of Revelation has been hermetically coded to reveal its true meaning to the initiates of esoteric teachings” has almost taken away any hope I have of trying to negotiate through the end times mess we’re in. I was hoping that the book of Revelation was a bulwark of pristine Christian thought – meaning that the occult would and couldn’t have anything to do with the book since it seeped the Lord Jesus Christ since the book is the revelation of Jesus Christ I thought why would the occult want anything to do with it. Could you please tell me more information about how the occult interprets and uses the book of Revelation because the way it looks to me from what has been said is that they read it as if its one of their books and from what I gather get the same results as I have. I mean to me if I were to pick one city… Read more »

George Wetherington
George Wetherington

The St John of the masons is only the date of its anniversary of being founded or nenewed. The 33rd degree represents the age of Jesus when he was murdered. This degree was first given by King Herod Agrippa to founders of the Mysterious Force in AD 43. An association founded and dedicated to the destruction of what Jesus called the Holy Ghost, and to the removal from the earth of the partisions of Jesus. This king also gave Hiram Abiud which he changed to Hiram Abiff the title Master taken from Jesus. This 'Mysterious Force' name was changed to Freemasonry in 1717. The greatest of their secrets was the date of its founding and the names of the founders, and of course the fact that it was founded by Jews determined to save the Jewish Religion and their nation, by determining to kill any way possible the followers of Jesus. These 9 founders kept a secret transcript designed for only the decendants of these nine. The stuff is out there, but who wants the truth at this late date?

brandi
brandi

golden age, you know nothing. besides, the Christian Bible doesn’t even say how many wise men there were. You obviously live by word of mouth and not by reading and understanding for yourself.

brandi
brandi

@ aldolas. I know this is months late, but by your logic, Christians would be worshipping something other than God no matter what day of the week we attended church. Saturday = SATURN day. etc etc. Your argument is weak and invalid….sorry

recce
recce

Saint John the Divine?….hmmm. The Saint John of the bible is not divine but human. He was an apostle of Jesus Christ and a servant of God who died a natural death after a good old age. I think the saint “john” the divine of this church is another pagan idol.

Sumerian God King
Sumerian God King

Our leaders think they can manipulate the timeline with magic and technology. They have even gone so far as to create CERN a sort of stargate to prevent what is to come.
They cannot stop what is to come

Sumerian God King
Sumerian God King

As far as freemasons and the so called illuminati…mere fiction to destract away from the real boogeymen behind the curtain

Eliakim
Eliakim

It is understandable that the John the Divine Cathedral would depict aspects of the Book of Revelation and yes the USA is mentioned in Rev 13, 17,18 and 19. However, do remember that the followers of Jesus were warned not to build upon his foundations with building materials and those that did would burn in the flames in the last days of the end times. Jesus also told the Apostles that the temples would come tumbling down in the last days and that his holy Angels would throw away the bad fish. The debate on whether Jesus Christ is God Numbers 23:19 The original translation in the Torah the words are different. God is not man to be capricious, or mortal to change his mind. Would he speak and not act, Promise and not fulfill. In other words God doesn’t act like man that thinks he is mortal. In the Aramaic text it as follows. God is not a man that he should lie: nor the Son of Man that he should be given counsel; he speaks and he shall do it, and his word abides forever. The above does clarify the position and it is clear in the above… Read more »

Eliakim
Eliakim

What the Church and the builders of the Church appear to have also missed is the fact that this time is being shortened for the sake of the elect exactly as predicted.

Simon
Simon

The answers are here:

http://www.Broadscape.com

ike maslen
ike maslen

What a load of rubbish…Wont get that time back i suppose.

thanks no i mean it …grrrr

Robert Dobbs
Robert Dobbs

We've already been doing this for years, and you want to give these guys credit?

Silly silly christians.

Praise "Bob"

Almighty slackmason and sacred profit.

Dana
Dana

I just don't get the connection to Freemasonry. The Masons are not satanists or terrorists planning a world takeover. They have some rituals that are strange to us, but so do fraternities and sororities. In my opinion, the dangerous drunken frat idiots are more dangerous than these nice old men who are part of a brotherhood that does GOOD in the world.. or at the very least, they have formed a positive community of men to be their second family. A recreational group that doesn't hurt other people (they help.) There are a LOT worse things they could be doing. I really love this site though, I think you are very intelligent and you point out some very strange things that DO need to be questioned. I just want to understand why Masons are being dragged into this… as a descendant of a 33rd degree Mason, I interpret it as slander and it really bothers me! If Masons are evil, then what do you call the rest of the men who are out at strip clubs and casinos… sleezy night clubs… cheating on their wives… drinking and driving… they really are "a cancer on the earth."

Aiden
Aiden

The Christian bias here is all too evident. It’s bad enough that world leaders believe that they are communicating wtih and doing the bidding of unseen (like, ever) spirits and demons and are using this as an excuse to act evil but then to have a site which claims to be an attempt at enlightening people rally against those who believe are ‘positive’ pagans. Everyone has a right to their own personal belief structure, there is nothign we can do about that, it’s when that belief structure is heavily enforced onto cultures and countries when it becomes a problem. I.e: The Christian-Judeo-Muslim belief systems. I can’t think of any three other religious faiths which have infilitrated and society to such an extent and shaped the way it is as those three. Plus. Christian symbolism is notoriously swagger jacked from Paganism, ancient mythology from all around the world including yes, Egyptians. The facts are there. No body whether they call themselves a Lucferinism or a Buddhist has the right to enslave people’s minds or dictate their personal choices and that’s why I read this site. Anyone who attempts to use their own beliefs as a means by which they might crush… Read more »

Timothy Dwyer
Timothy Dwyer

How many posters to this site have actually attended a service at St. John the Divine? I attend services here every Sunday. If you did, you would know that this magnificent Episcopal Cathedral is a place where people of diverse backgrounds come to be touched by God's love. We believe that all human beings deserve to be treated with respect and dignity, and that the love of God surpasses all understanding. We feed and house the homeless, educate children, and encourage discussion across the spectrum of faith and philosophy through worship, and also through song, art, dance, and drama. It is as "Christian" a place as I have ever seen.

How sad that so many here have looked a at a few pictures out of context and get so misled about this wonderful place.

Just browsing
Just browsing

@Thunderscot

How does a rock die???? They may become eroded or they break or they split but die…i have never heard that one before!!!

Thunderscot
Thunderscot

We are nothing but highly evolved monkeys clinging to a rock that is falling through space….and the rock is dying.

Also, please, please, check your spelling people.

Nathan
Nathan

At the end of the day, I feel like so much of the philosophy behind the NWO makes perfect sense, except for one thing:

If the people who control industry and the economy had set it up so that all Humanity benefits from progress, instead of just the favored elite, then I would be behind the plan.

But they didnt. They impoverish 90 percent of the world deliberately and systematically, to gradually set up the conditions to kill off billions. Its a fact that the earth could support billions MORE people than now – IF we allocate the resources effectively and do everything efficiently. Instead, we have countries selling each other weapons to blow each other up and kill people in a vicious cycle, all in the name of Profit.

If they had included us regular people, I would support the NWO. But they just want us to die.

Resistance.

chromeru
chromeru

Господа, а не пора ли нам обсудить эту тему вместе, если есть желающие, присоединяйтесь!?

Weird!
Weird!

The only wacky thing is this discussion. Where does all this fit with the mission statement of the church – “To build and nurture a Christian community; to support the mission of the Cathedral; to offer opportunites for exploring and expressing spirituality, affirming the diversities that exist among us; above all, through worship, service, and example, to bear witness to Christ’s healing and reconciling love to neighbors, pilgrims and visitors”. This Cathedral is obviously cutting edge, but what is wrong with that? The Procession of Ghouls is performed by the Mettawee River Theater Company in the hands of a Mr Ralph Lee; therefore it is theater. Cathedrals are often venues for the arts in various shapes and forms. Halloween has links with the ancient Christian Festival of All Saints’ Day, and as for the comments about the Feast Day of St Francis, and blessing of the animals…… A very distorted and sad view.

tensionstrategy
tensionstrategy

“THE GREAT PROSTITUTE WHO SITS ON MANY NATIONS AND WATERS IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH”

Andrew is correct in his above statement.

Vigliant Citizen: please check out the following links and video, they highlight the forces behind what you are investigating here on your site:
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/wheel.htm

http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/monstr.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1NdVL74LEQ

Keep up the good work my friend.

andrew
andrew

THE GREAT PROSTITUTE WHO SITS ON MANY NATIONS AND WATERS IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH PPL

gargoyle
gargoyle

I really enjoyed the article, thanks; can't say the same for much of the comment section though.

You christian types really make me puke, lol…no, really. Bunch of know-it-all f***s who don't actually 'know' anything. As for 'god fearing', not in this life; any god that wants me to fear him can suck me, lol.

Kudos to those with some insight, worldliness, courage.

Nita
Nita

Well this isn’t really any surprise. It’s commonly known that most Christian celebrations were designed around Pagan holidays as a way to replace those holidays for converts.

JBlizzie
JBlizzie

OK… Number 1, you post ONE video, have u watched any of the others available?

Number 2, the "Halloween Extravaganza" looks to me (I am Southern Baptist by the way) as if it is symbolism NOT of satanic worship or Pagan rituals, but as symbolism of all the evil entities, spirits, demons, whatever; that come forth on "All Hallows Eve" to entice souls to return with them. Hence, ALL THE PEOPLE IN DEMON REGALIA ARE MAKIN HAND MOTIONS TOWARDS PEOPLE ATTEMPTING TO "PULL" THEM IN TOWARDS THEM, THEREFORE TRYING TO ENTICE THEM TO COME WITH THEM. Also, many christians do not celebrate halloween due to these very beliefs, we never did; as such our churches usually arranged alternative worships or activities giving us something spiritual to do on halloween… which this seems to be something much of the same.

Ms. Me
Ms. Me

Either way the Cathedral Church of St. John is blasphemy. If you look at popular tv shows the mixture of relgions is becomming more prevalent. So this only confirms suspicions. Also we don’t have on the government for everything. It would behoove all of us to learn how to grow plants, harvest water, generate energy and use plants and the earth for medicine. You’re way behind, don’t be one of the maidens that didn’t have enough oil for her lamp!

Dennis
Dennis

The Cathedral Church of Saint John the Divine, is the Cathedral of the Episcopal Diocese of New York. You read that correctly. It's Episcopal. Anglican. Not Roman Catholic.

tammyf
tammyf

God will show himself strong, and these ppl that mock him…will be punished..God is the creator….how can ppl be so evil n distorted?? But then again, satan is like a roaorin lion n the great deciever.

As they say in my church, the devil is jus makin fire sticks for hell so that the fire won't be to hott for him. And he knows dat he has but a short time..God will make this world clean again…his way!! Not the way that these evil men want to make it clean by killing innocent ppl.

tammyf
tammyf

Be aware my ppl, God is the one true judge!!

Benjamin
Benjamin

"When NYC twin towers gets hit, islam is dancing, and revelations says the people dance when Babylon

" BS dude, they were israeli citizens atop of the truck dancing and skipping for joy, they knew that USrael will fight back tilting at windmills, and as it was after the WW2, they were Israelis who profited by it most. Later on breaching all the conventions ISRAEL was estabilished

ZOGnightmare
ZOGnightmare

Another proof that the USA absorbed all the scum of the earth. Who cares if this perverted city be flooded or not, but I guess the ruling elites a re looking forward to that moment, preparing the broad masses for such event with their , so numerous lately catastrophic movies. It is clear that in the event of global catstrophy people will be completely at the mercy of government who will do all he deems necessary to "save" the humanity

paul mack
paul mack

Jesus did intend to form a religion. If not he would not have chosen an exact 12 men as his followers. and one leader, Peter who he explicitly calles the rock or foundation i/e the CEO of the whole thing. That you hate religion is your personal problem, but you try to make it public. Religion doesnt set out to control but to tame the pagan beast. In that taming has to be some form of control but of mostly behavior modification. This is what libs hate as they feel life is a free for all. No one in the christian faith holds you down, that is a perception of your own insecurites. You may feel something you read in a history book holds you down but it doesnt, because its in a book. This is the fatal mistake you book nerds make. You cant discern between history and the reality of the moment. its your sickness. thats like saying you read a book on slavery close the book more determined than ever to free slaves. LOL Priests are no more made gay than a gay man who hates beting told that he is made gay. Hence religion doesnt make… Read more »

paul mack
paul mack

Babylon the great is likely to be NYC.

The key to the secret is how revelations describes it.

John describes a woman sitting on the waters of a nation of many people and tongues. Well NYC is the only city in the world thats called the "melting pot," and that fits.

The woman who sits on the waters of this "nation" is none other than the statue of Liberty which sits in NY harbor who John saw in his vision.

When NYC twin towers gets hit, islam is dancing, and revelations says the people dance when Babylon

the great is destroyed. it says that no one can trade with her any more. NYC is the center of global trade and commerce.

It all fits; question it no more.

al
al

So, pagans are not God’s children, too? By the way, the memorial service at the Blessing of the Bicycles for people who have died in car accidents is not ‘stupid’. For a Christian-defender you sure are full of intolerance and hate.

David J.
David J.

Wow, we're impressed with the research and time that has gone into this project, Vigilant Citizen. Really impressed. Please don't quit what you do.

Leedom
Leedom

The name Jesus was used incorrectly by the clergy, his name was Jeshua or Esu. Esu never set out to form a religion, this was the work of the priesthood in concert with the Roman emperor Constantine to centralize power. Esu only wished for every man and woman to make an effort in being decent to others as well as to oneself, in other words treat others with respect and dignity. If every single individual were able to commit to such simple principle, this world would be a real paradise. By its nature mankind cannot have centralized power since it is still spiritually immature and always falls under corruption. Corruption has been the trademark of every man or woman that accumulates too much power in his or her hands. Centralized power is what the superelite is in the throes of achieving; one global government obeying, blindly, the rotten overlords Rothschilds, Rockefellers & Co. Do not be easily misled by the Vatican, which is the real prostitute of Babylon and is part of the same diabolical apparatus; this is why the p*******e priests that abused sexually the native children of the residential shools in Newfoundland, Boston, and countries in Europe are… Read more »

Simon
Simon

One wacky chruch, err organisation, err whatever it is, BUT!!! I was impressed with the building, could make a wonderful Museum i guess.

Titus Sviatoslav
Titus Sviatoslav

I found the pillar carvings interesting.

I don’t think the Book of Revelations was written by John, the brother of Yeheshua. St. John the Divine was another character entirely.

One can certainly make the case that “The City” of London is the “Great City” destroyed in Revelation 18.

The rituals in that Cathedral are no more bizarre than the simulated eating of human flesh and drinking of blood that occurs at a Roman Catholic Mass.

Weren’t some of the scenes in “The Devil’s Advocate” filmed there?

Deb Krekic
Deb Krekic

Those who see this and refuse to separate will have no excuse for the WORD clearly admonishes us to separate and come out and that our Abba seeks those who will worship Him in SPIRIT & TRUTH…not show up for a church service in a building on a Sun worship Day…especially those that openly display pagan graven images and teach the doctrines of men…especially those like Paul who came in his own name/authority and was not really an apostle at all…

St. John the Divine Cathedral…Divine? By whose definition and what god would that be do ya think… Lucifer the Light Bearer and Washington the most worshipful master god of Freemasonry thats who…

Brigitte
Brigitte

I used to live in the neighborhood of the cathedral. The only concert I attended there was of black Gospel singer-guitarist Odetta and her guitar strings broke during the concert. Somehow there always was something a bit odd, something that repelled me subconsciously because though I'm not a practising christian I do try to live up to Jesus's teachings, and as a music lover I could have attended some of the many concerts of classical music that the church has hosted. I once bought a book sold from a table on the sidewalk. It was about occultism and said that the members of some christian-protestant group, the one to which this cathedral belongs are secret satanists and reveal their true colors by being fans of the Grateful Dead rock band. A few years after reading this book a tragedy occurred in my life that made me consider suicide but I first wanted some advice from a spiritual person and went to this cathedral, and after I was asked to wait and waited for almost one hour a "priest" looking very gay, wearing pants that put his backside in starck relief, came to fetch me and I told him about my… Read more »

C.S.
C.S.

The lower pillar clearly depicts scorpion-like creatures tormenting men……as spoken of in revelation.

dragan
dragan

this is what the world has come to.The atheists are alot more vigilant than God fearing people that is why evil is more prevalent today.P********s get a slap on the wrist,homosexuality is promoted as a lifestyle,people have no manners,parents want to be their childrens buddies instead of teaching and disciplining them,children dont honor their parents etc etc etc.God fearing people raise your voices when someone blasphemes God,or subscribes to one of the above.Their are more of us than them ,they are just louder thats all.There is an attack on all church institutions to try to make them all seem corrupt,just remember this is an agenda and never lose faith or your spirituality.GOD bless and keep up the goog fight.(great article)

Ed Largy
Ed Largy

The unfortunate followers of the Temple of Understanding are in reality following their father, the devil, a/k/a Satan, Lucifer. The Bible says these people duped by Satan will burn in hell for eternity. I pray for them that they will see the error of their ways and turn to Jesus Christ, their only hope for salvation from their sins and staying out of hell.

Joseph
Joseph

I suggest reading “The Nohide Laws” legislated into LAW during the Reagan Administration.
Many articles relating to this LAW, including the transript of the LAW are available on Google.
Is this a definition?
Or is this LAW something else?

andrea preston
andrea preston

Re Comment 36 , because someone calls themself a Christian, it does not mean that they are. Not all Christains go out with the aim to convery others, they just help, whether that be through a listening ear, a gentle hand, food to eat etc. The difference between Christians and non Christians is that they know that we are human and not perfect, hence repentance and forgiveness. Many Chritians do live by the needs and wants philosphy, and will give up their'cloak'. The thing is that they also follow Jesus teaching in trelation to the Pharisee's. in other words they do no stand in the middle of the street showing their goodness by dishing out free food, instead they help the hungry in secret. You can not judge who is a Christian and who is not, any more than you can judge who is a Pagan and who is not. It is the New Agers who are causing the divisions between people. Pagans and Christians do not have a problem with each other, I should know. Nor do Jews, Muslims and Christians have a problem with each other, which is why Muslims send their children to Church schools. New Agers… Read more »

YungSage
YungSage

The author is implying that anyone who has psychic abilities, practices yoga or has any knowledge of Hermetic sciences is thus, evil and dealing in black magic, this is of course not true. I find allot of contradictions when it comes to religion versus spirituality and science on this website, but i do understand these are all simply observations and i applaud you for bringing this to public awareness.

H
H

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way. I am a spiritual seeker without religion, and have had mystical experiences, studied Buddhism, meditate, practice yoga, etc. I am definitely NOT evil and believe in living a positive, loving life. I have friends who are Pagans, even a good friend who is a pagan priest, and they're wonderful people with much light. I get seriously annoyed when everything non-Christian is lumped together as "SATANISM" on this blog, when things like magick and Hermetic knowledge can be used for good or ill–you have to be WISE, loving and responsible to walk such a path. Anyone can be good or evil, it's their choice, their strength of will and moral compass that determine how they conduct themselves–with love, or with harm and hatred. A Pagan can be a manipulative black magic practitioner, and a Christian can be a narrow-minded bigot (…my extended family). The same ignorance and negativity applies in both instances. It is the same as saying "rich people are worse/better than others." A rich person may be greedy and immoral, or they might have been lucky in life and generous with what they have, using their resources to… Read more »

gsg
gsg

Actually, anyone with "psychic powers" is demonically possessed. There is no such thing as psychics.

undrgrndgirl
undrgrndgirl

the book is called REVELATION no "s"

dikkelou
dikkelou

What's so upsetting or world-threatening about the blessing of animals, bicycles or cars? It's very common in catholic churches…You're right to laugh out loud with it, it's supposed to be a joyful occasion.

DixieSuga
DixieSuga

Beloved, let not your hearts be troubled. God is great, and still is good. He has made a plan! The Old Prophets, and some new, have warned and admonished us, but also gucen us hope. "Pray always, that you may be hid in THAT day. (Apocalypse) and that year be worthy to stand in front of the Son of Man"
So it's possible to be hid away during all the horrors that these signs and symbols are vut birth pangs of…
I hope you all will find faith, hope and love!

DixieSuga
DixieSuga

Sorry for my typos! Lol

seeker of knowledge
seeker of knowledge

great post, lots of food for thought, I think the Denver airport could of been on this list,

A. Magnus
A. Magnus

"Just one question, do you find any symbolism in the fact that portuguese and spanish killed most of South America because they would not convert to christianity? What constitutes real and fake christians?"

First off, while the Spaniards and Portuguese killed off many native Americans, the smallpox and other diseases they brought with them inflicted the brunt of the damage upon those societies.

Secondly, a real Christian sells off all his/her belongings, lives poor, proselytizes and follows the laws and mores of the Hebraic religion as posited by Jesus Christ. About 99% of so-called 'Christians' fail to live by these biblically mandated requirements, so therefore they are NOT Christians in the truest sense of the word.

Vapour Trail
Vapour Trail

QUOTE: “Those buzz words hide however the means that will be used to obtain those objectives: “Peace” will only happen when all there will be a single world government. “Balance with nature” will only happen when the world population will drastically decrease and “harmony with the infinite” will only happen when the world will give up traditional religions to embrace neo-pagan humanism.” A very narrow-minded and, dare I say, leading conclusion. It leds you down a craxy path to the padded room. There undoubtedly is a pagan symbolism inherent in the structure, the proportions, the placement, the alignment, and the rituals enacted within that sacred space. As with all pagan churches throughout 10,000 years of human civilisation. Nothing awry so far, in my eyes. So, where does this NWO agenda conclusion come from? And why tag the term “humanism” to the end of “neo-pagan”? As though the two go together naturally. As though one is entwined within the other. Not so. Sloppy thinking. Leading the casual observer to your own poorly-conceived, ill-educated conclusion. I suggest you read some more books, then go out and meet the sun. You might even get along, and I guarantee it will not instill thoughts… Read more »

Ernie M.
Ernie M.

Good work. This is a great awareness piece. Meaning, you have merely laid aboveboard the simple fact that: St. John the Divine Cathedral is not a Catholic, Christian, nor any denomination of Monotheism, temple or place of worship, but an occult-temple. However, I fear that you are implying that Paganism is an evil spiritual practice. Would you say the same for Buddhism, for example, whose Iconography depicts Hellish realms and demons of all genre, as an evil sect of spiritual deviators? The references made to Free-Masonry, is not news to me and other researchers, such as Jim Marrs, David Icke, and the hundreds of other Coast to Coast AM contributors, and sponsors. It is Historically evident that Satanists, Pagans, Christians, and even Deists congregate within Masonic Lodges. It is also evident that anything artistically done by a Free-Mason, even in modern-times, would require certain motifs and symbolism. The depiction of the Apocalypse is such a theme, as seen on the pillar you have photographed. But this is a common theme among the above mentioned researchers and authors, not something you are revealing, but the difference here is that you within this text have appeared to be writing with an intended… Read more »

Gray Eagle
Gray Eagle

The Fall of Babylon By Darren Smith The Lord kept me up most of the night bringing a word for me to share and to share now. Many times I wait until I have prayed over what I hear in my spirit, but I can't wait to send this word ou Last night while praying before I went to bed, The Lord gave me a vision that really rattled me. In the vision I saw this land split into four parts with each one under its own flag. Each region had terrible destruction and many people were dead. As I looked over the destruction I was crying and the Lord asked me why are you crying over the fall of Babylon? As a matter of fact, why have you been praying for the healing of Babylon? In this vision I didn't have an answer and the Lord opened a scroll and started reading of the indictments against our country, but before each one he clearly called the USA Babylon. Full article here http://www.streetscapeministries.com/gpage3.html Jeremiah 51:9 We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment… Read more »

Val
Val

Hey, I had that same dream!

asshole
asshole

“When the missionaries of any man religion goes to them, he goes like a vendor of goods. He has no special spiritual merit that will distinguish him from those to whom he goes. He does however possess material goods which he promises to those who will come to his fold.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoMRfQyLAe0 …. Religion, The Pyramid Game

nothing other than garbage in and garbage out and indistinguishable from a garbage dump !!!!!!!!!!!!!

andrea preston
andrea preston

I have seen all this coming as I live right in the heart of New Age hedonism i.e. Glastonbury. I do not know where where people get the idea from that Christian churches were built on pagen sites. Pagan was a Roman word used to describe the native people of the countries they conquered. In Britain it was the British, now known as Wesh/Cymraig/Celts, who introduced Christianity to Britain . And it was the members of the elite, the soldier/saints who first built small churches on land, usually nextto water, for transport etc. They asked the local ruler,usually a kinsman for a tract of land, which they then enclosed within a circular ditch and embankment called a llan or lan in the West Country. people wanted to be buried next to the saint, their bodies being transported by water. Eventually settlements grew up aroun the llans. It was the E/W orthodoxy split that led to the demise of the British churc or Pagan church,it being replaced with Roman Catholicism. Over a thousand British priests (not druids) were slaughtered on the Field of Tears, following Augustine's meeting with the British Church. Neo Paganism was invented mainly in the 1950's and has… Read more »

Benjamin
Benjamin

I'm glad that so many people are taking a keen interest in Christianity lately.

All my life I have been a disciple of Jesus and watched the lot of you run

willy nilly after worthless gain. Now I see many come looking for the Lord.

Know you that if you just call His Name, Jesus, in earnestness you shall

be saved.

Will
Will

“The Blessing of Bicycles – I won’t even talk about this, it is too stupid”

I lolled at that

Great site mate. The comments can be very obnoxious and opinionated, but the articles are top notch

Jiji
Jiji

Pagans don't worship the sun you moron.

This is ALL Christian propaganda and those who can't see it should be given what they deserve.

killuminator
killuminator

lol, douchebag spirituality is always lol

acl
acl

And still there are those, in great numbers, even the majority, that do not have the courage, the mind, or the wisdom to understand something is wrong with this world. As a result of this, we shall suffer greatly. The process is already underway.

goldenage2012
goldenage2012

here we go again with sheer non-sense….it would seem as if any great city is accused of being some type of babylon,and in this case since new york is the worlds number one global city it takes all the heat and ridicule…

well I almost went to the winter festival at st johns but couldnt make it..wish i did though,I would have probably enjoyed it………..bottom line is the sun and the planets are interesting and I always have been interested in them………and as for new york no city comes close to being the ultimate cosmopolitan city that it is ,to me most christians are close minded …even in the new testament it talks about three wise men and guess what ? they were into astronomy and astrology big time..so wake up and realize that and stop being the hypocrites that you are.

Interesting
Interesting

Following stars to reach destinations is different from worshipping them.

confused
confused

I find this all very interesting. Just one question, do you find any symbolism in the fact that portuguese and spanish killed most of South America because they would not convert to christianity? What constitutes real and fake christians?

Interesting
Interesting

IMHO their brand of Christianity was in name only and for political reasons. True Christians… don't blow up abortion clinics or abuse gay people or whatever hateful things are done in the name of God and Christ… The best I can say is you can tell a true Christian 1) by belief in God 2)by belief in Jesus, that He died for our sins, and rose in 3 days, defeating death and sin and 3) "fruit of the Spirit"- love, peace, joy, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance… Not to say true Chrisians are perfect because they are not… but there has to be some evidence of life in Christ. Yes, that is judgement… and judgement is not always bad… condemnation is.

lovellespice
lovellespice

another one of those "truths" that people take without questioning.. native americans died from contracting diseases from europeans, diseases they weren't immune to.. there was no culling and persecution, native americans voluntarily converted to christianity

konnanopaea
konnanopaea

the only true "truth" you purport is that our peoples were indeed decimated from diseases spread from europeans-inadvertently at first,maybe,but by targeting the people,notoriously by the issuance of smallpox infected blankets (documented as late as the 1990s),as well as introducing firewater to draug & disarm those who survived,imploding our cultural mores & family,clan,and tribal units,knowing that our genotypes lack the chemical production that metabolises etoh;in modern terms,the use of biological & chemical agents as genocidal weapons.as for the "voluntary" conversions,and absence of persecution & "culling"-im dumbfounded-however young & uneducated you may be,its time to learn some history;perhaps by touring the missions of the southwest,preferably with a guide whose ancestors died grusome deaths after being tortured,starved & enslaved by those kind priests who kept them chained to the high adobe walls that imprisoned them that they,in fact,had to erect.and this was After their voluntary conversions.even baptised,most were turned away from receiving the eucharist.almost all of these lovely fiefdoms still have graveyards on site teeming withs untold thousands-They testify to the Truth

not sitting in the t
not sitting in the t

Maybe the fight between christianity and paganism is just a farce organized by the Illuminati. Maybe its just another example of their Hegelian dialect in which two opposite groups fight in order to merge into something new. Maybe this something new is the unified world religion promoted by the Catholic church. In this view point Christians contribute as much to the establisment of the New World Order as their opponents, the pagan guys. The solution would be to not get involved with either of the two.

stienster
stienster

Excellent research Brother! Thank you for this valuable expose'.

Long Beach Abe
Long Beach Abe

Dear hmmmm:

Apparently you know little of pagan history. How exactly were the Satanic Aztecs, Raping Vikings, Gladiatorial Romans, Cannibalistic Zulus, Imperial Japanese, Slave Owning Pharonic Egyptians, Human Sacrificing Druids, Wife Burning Hindus, or Female genital mutilating African tribes any more or less violent, intolerant, and patriarchal than the Semitic Religions. It is you and not the people of Abraham who speak from ignorance and irrational intolerance. And as a post script: Both Gore Vidal and Bertrand Russel were shameless apologists for Marxism, an ideology that has killed more people in absolute and relative terms in less than two centuries than all religions combined have in twenty centuries. A complete fail on your part. May GOD bless you and allow you gain some peace and knowledge from this post.

Julian
Julian

Long Beach Abe:yourthe one that knows nothing of pagan history, if you do, prove it and i dare you to show what you know of what you call satanist aztecs, f*****g ignorant im from mexico and i bet you dont even know what yoy are talking about. all those things are par of human nature happen in all cultures, even today it has nothing to do with pagans and christians, and what, you dont call the witch burnings religious human sacrifice? you idiot an aztec shaman or an hindi brahman know what you call god better than you, or than any christian, including the pope

stevieb
stevieb

Excellent comment…

hmmmm
hmmmm

It is always interesting to see so many points of view, which I think is a wonderful thing which shows the diversity of human nature. Insofar as the nature of the article is concerned I would agree that there is a deception as to the true nature of the church i.e. pagan rituals in a Christian church. The reality is that at the time of Christ whether historical or biblical speaking, the Roman empire had a very universal view of religion. This is in fact the reason why Christians were allowed to whorship (yes I know there was some persecution). In Rome you were allowed to whorship whichever God you wanted to. There was no limit so long as you afforded everyone the same right. In fact Roman times were the most religiously diverse times. What I see happening here is an attempt to return to those times, where pagan matriachial festivals are making a return and the patriachial semitic religions don't like it, because it is a challenge to their monopoly. The whorshiping of the female or the earth mother where all life springs from sits very uncomfortably with the patriachs rule. The question for the semitic religions is,… Read more »

Scully
Scully

I did not say anything was cool or hip! I said you called the book of REVELATION-REVELATIONS!

You don't know the correct name of the last book of the Bible! You must be a Hoolywood producer because I've always noticed any movie on the big screen calls the book of Revelation, Revelations! Maybe you don't get it!

Bad Blood
Bad Blood

Moon child, you dont get it. the entire point of the article is to highlight the occult vs xtian items in this house of alleged xtian worship. it is a temple of secular humanism, NOT legit xtianity. the temple of understanding is a UN affiliate to usher in the NWO's New Age Religion- worship of Lucifer- hence the Lucifer features in the outdoor sculpture. The rituals of masonry are EXACTLY like those of witchcraft, at least in the first 3 degrees. i took the tour of the inside and the stained glass windows are not of traditional saints to be venerated , but of figures from pop culture and celebrities. the tour guide pointed out the pyramid with the all-seeing-eye in between the two steeples above the front entrance. he also said the seated christ above the main door was carved to "be the 5 points of the pentacle". QUOTE. cool, hip? hardly. highly inappropriate as well as sneaky and manipulative. but your poo-poo dismissive attitude is very typcial of the deceivers who gloss over their deceits as "no big deal" or "you're being paranoid." the facts are in-your-face obvious. Vigilant citizen is right on the money here.

Scully
Scully

Good work! I notice alot of people always get this book wrong. It is the book of Revelation. It is not plural and it is the Revelation of Jesus Christ stated in the first line. It means an unveiling.

louie
louie

I think it originally called..the Apocalypse

The truth shall set you free
The truth shall set you free

Thank you Vigilant Citizin for exposing those who are deceiving the world.

To those who don’t believ in Jesus & God, I pitty you and I can only pray that your eyes will be opened before it is too late.

For those seeking more truths…read the following book. “HE CAME TO SET THE CAPTIVE FREE” BY REBECCA BROWN. This too exposes those who work for Satan.

It’s a reality whether you believe it or no.

MoonChild
MoonChild

That so-called "pagan ritual" of the blessing of the animals is a tradition from back before your church split from ours! It's called The Feast of St. Francis. St. Francis spoke with animals, and even got a wolf to leave a small town in Italy where it was terrorizing the population for want of food. St. Francis is responsible for starting an order of monks called the Order of St. Francis. He also had the stigmata. The robes are priestly vestments and vestments of acolytes, or altar boys, and not everyone is wearing the robes, only the one acolyte is. What is being done in that video is called Liturgical Dance, which is something that has been around longer than the Christian religion, and probably dates back to the beginning of the world. Remember: King David danced before the Lord! The people in the video wearing the robes are Liturgical dancers, in order to separate them from everyone else. Don't your church choirs wear robes? The St. Lucia ritual is something that has been around longer than the blessing of the animals! St. Lucia went into the catacombs to feed and minister to the Christians hiding from their persecutors above… Read more »

anonymous
anonymous

I know this is an old thread, however, just wanted to point out – this is not a Catholic Church! This is an Episcopal Church

Mc Metaphysical
Mc Metaphysical

I always find it amusing when people such as Moonchild are able to do the knowledge in the form of bein well read but aren't intelligent enough to connect the dots.

toward the end of the rationale the potency of explanation dwindles down in the face of the truth so that art is only to be taken "at face value", the masonic magazine cover is for a tax writeoffs and the halloween celebration is a mardi gras.

what is the origin of mardi gras? this is what you call intelligent ignorance.

gsg
gsg

MoonChild, go back to suck up to your Illuminati masters. You are probably a Satanist/Luciferian yourself.

Yeah, i bet you love sacrificing kids, don't you?

tracey
tracey

It disturbs me when people claim to be Christians, Catholics, basically Believers in Christ, then when the prophesies of the Bible come to fruition they become conspiracies, the Bible is rewritten or some contrary story. You either all in or all out! I'm not saying I'm perfect but I believe in the Bible to be God's word so as I see government and religious institutions trying to dissuade me from my faith I am on alert. I will not be mocked or demonized for my Faith.

DrWu
DrWu

MoonChild; I promised myself I'd stop reading when I reached a post with some sense to it. I stopped after yours. Anglicanism is about the closest Protestant denomination to Catholicism, so I can see you tying them together. You correctly identify many ancient practices in your post. St John's has always been a space utilized like the original cathedra in Europe. This is the place where people gather and all manner of things can take place. Human things. Remember, God made humans and so, when there is a circus at St. Johns, it's not because there is disrespect meant to God. It's rather a form of praise and thanks for making us. Oh yes, the fountain's is a little weird in form but it depicts St. Michael the Archangel defeating Satan right before he is to be hurled into the burning pit for eternity. This is a pretty common motif and seems to be especially important to the Anglicans (See Coventry Cathedral). The pillar is there to remind the worshiper that all human endeavor, even the great undertakings of constructing a city and a financial empire, are temporary. I think you did great.

Aldolas
Aldolas

Most Christians worship the sun anyway. Otherwise they wouldn't go to church on a SUNday, they would follow the example of Christ, who they supposedly follow and go to church on the Sabbath/Saturday/Seventh day of the week.

Don't believe me? Do some research, try reading the bible for starters. Ask some older people which day of the week the seventh is (they've been silently changed the calendars in the last 20-odd years). And look into papal history (changed the 'Holy Day' from Saturday to Sunday at about 300 a.D.

But there again, I'm not Christian, so why should I worry?

Blessed Be,

Sam

pearl
pearl

what you mentioned is true. Even Christmas originated from the birthday of the "sun god" but christians blindly follow them thinking it's the birthday of Jesus or justifying Christmas as a means of preaching when it still does not change the pagan origin.

Just like the beautification & symbolism of the cross and use of it – the cross originated as symbol of Tammuz (aka "sun god") and other forms of "sun god" worship used even in ancient egypt etc.

But then again these christianized pagan festives were inserted into the churches over 1000 years ago so it's become traditions that people follow blindly.

Took me quite awhile to find a church that doesn't keep the pagan rites or symbols.

Keida Marz
Keida Marz

I am curious. I haven't found a Christian church that has managed to seperate itself from the pagan roots of the homelands it overtook. I am not Christian, though I study Christianity in an effort to understand it and its people. Would you mind telling me what church you found and where it is?

Steve
Steve

Pure Talmudic nonsense…

Andrei
Andrei

It does not matter what you beliefs are, but what are your actions. Nanakofi it's ok that other people have different beliefs, but it's not ok if someone manipulates them. For me it's simple, if you wanna worship god, you don't need a sacred place, you just do it where you want because i don't think god will punish you for saying prayers in the wrong place. lol =)))) and this is why i think that the church (the actual building) is nothing more than a building, just as the priests are nothing more than people with the illusion that they are special(90% of the priests i have came across )

nanakofi
nanakofi

Hi guys I have always been interested in seeking the "truth" whatever that may be, I was raised an anglican in Ghana West AfriCA, live in nyc actually not far from the cathedral, I called to find out if it was anglican and they told me it was and will encourage me to be part of the worship, did not think anything mcuh of it but after reading the article and comment i am having second thoughts, does it really matter what the church is promoting or does it really matter what your purpose it and your relationship with God. I intend to find a place where i can go and worship God, whom I beleive is the supreme being, if other people in the congregation belive something else will that be sinful or an abomination?

Interesting
Interesting

Be careful… that doesn't look anglican to me…

Dave
Dave

When you accept that Jesus sacrificed Himself for you – He comes and lives within you .. Joins your spirit into the Body of Christ with Himself the head of that church. The 'church' in this article is nothing short of a mask of satan… anyone who would like to worship in a place like this, surrounded by satanic symbols and those that secretly believe in them are decieving themselves – find a church of good sincere people who love the Lord Jesus and obey His teachings according to the Word of God (the Bible). Love urges me to tell you to turn your back in contempt of this monstrous fake church!! God Bless You!

Keida Marz
Keida Marz

The reality is that the 'place' does not so much matter as the 'time'. If you are devout and devoted to your God and to being the best Anglican you can be and to being the best person you can be, then it matters not what those around you believe. On a battlefield, you will never know what the soldier beside you believes. But you will still pray together because you both hope for a better future and to see the next sun rise happily on those you care for. It does not matter if you both worship in the same way or worship the same version of God. Just that when you worship, you do so in the best way you can. The only abomination is that it took a battlefield for you to pray together and put aside your differences….which from what I understand of this place, that's their goal. To create a place where people can gain understanding across these religious barriers. So they can worship together without the battlefield.

kaijuu
kaijuu

“And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.”

Guy
Guy

Excellent article. 'you kinda forget that churches used to be pagan places called harrows but renamed churches back when christianity really took off…' This is one of those things that people ALWAYS say until it becomes accepted Truth – it isn't. Some Churches were built on some pagan sites. Er, thats it. Other accepted 'Truths': ‘Millions of women were burnt as witches in the late middle ages.' Well – maybe 40 000 to 50 000 tops, almost half of which were men, generally in rural places where the authority of the clergy and nobility was weak – and this is coming from genuine Pagan Historian Ronald Hutton. Another one: ‘The Catholic Church's teachings on contraception are responsible for the spread of Aids in Africa’ – an utter falsehood stemming from a faked up TV documentary by a BBC Activist – see the book 'Can we trust the BBC?' by ex BBC journalist Robin Aitken for a detailed itemisation of this put up job. I could go on – but the New Paradigm people are very willing to believe Propaganda of their own. Still, I guess with 'Angels and Demons' coming to a cinema near you (Evil Catholics massacre Liberal Illuminati)… Read more »

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is it jesus' teachings that led to the inquisition or even led to the catholic church? or did the church usurp christianity, putting it's official seal upon what became known as christianity, paving the way for everything but jesus?

amateras11
amateras11

you kinda forget that churches used to be pagan places called harrows but renamed churches back when christianity really took off…

Interesting
Interesting

In true Christianity.. the church is not a building, but people with Christ as the cornerstone…

Elena
Elena

You are correct. In Greek "church" is "ekklesia" — the ones called out. Synagogue means the ones gathered together. In both instances, church and synagogue are the people, not the building in which they meet.

Flu-Bird
Flu-Bird

The AZTECS,INCANS and MYHANS worshipped nature and the sun and moon they commted acts of bloody human sacrifice just many enviromentalist want to do

truthseeker
truthseeker

in response to this post:

Shane April 3rd, 2009 1:38 pm :

hummm what is wrong with worshiping the sun …far better than an imaginary God, or imaginary Jesus both of whom never existed in the first place … the Sun is Real, the Moon is Real, The Sun does provide life for 99.99999% of the life on earth. God is a delusion created by iron age men.

I guess you missed the whole point of this article. The author was just simply illustrating the point that St. Johns Cathedral in NYC, a so called "christian" church, has been accepting a euchenimical agenda and allowing various types of world faiths and traditions to take place within a "christian church". God strictly forbids the mixture of such practices in the Bible many times and calls it an abomination. The author never once attacked any religions– in fact he says so in his conclusion.

"Like I’ve said in the beginning, I do not condemn any faith, whether its Muslim, Christian or Wiccan. All faiths contain wisdom in their teachings."

Keida Marz
Keida Marz

This is true, and I agree. However one thing that I did not see the author address is the practices of Christianity. Christianity, during its rapid and semi-forced spread across Europe, adopted the traditions of the 'home' religions. Catholic Mass is the epitome of this. Its not that these Pagan faiths have copied or borrowed from Christianity, its the other way around. So for Pagan ceremonies to resemble Christian ones, or even each other, is not unusual. Neither is the idea for Christian ceremonies to resemble Pagan ones. Example: Christian choir dress. It is a direct copy of the dress of Pagan officiants who call or sing during their ceremonies. The author made it a point to discuss the dress and actions of individuals during different ceremonies and even provided video. "This is another pagan ritual, taking place inside a church. Notice the white robes everybody is wearing. (above picture of Man leading Horse)" Do not baptisms in Christian churches require white garb? A baptism is a blessing ceremony. Christians were far from the first to use white (symbolizing purity) robes for blessing ceremonies. The only reason Baptism garb has changed is because of modernization of tailoring techniques and Western… Read more »

Kat
Kat

This stuff is Just Pain Weird and Bizarre in my opinion. I would like to thank the author for bringing this to attention. We can research things ourselves and we all have all own opinions and so forth.

Kat
Kat

I mean plain not pain.

Freya
Freya

Thank you for writing this. I was raised in a Lutheran church (which is a form of Christianity) but have since turned to Pagansim. I am always learning new things about my chosen path and one that comes up quite often is the surprising fact of how much Christianity has 'borrowed' from Paganism. I am not condemning Christianity by far, it has many merits, but no one should ever denounce the Pagan ways considering how many of them are present in our daily lives. Christmas celebrated on the 25th of December is modeled after the Pagan celebration of the Winter solstice on the 21st. The 'Yule Log,' the Christmas tree, Holly, and the giving out of gifts are all Pagan traditions. I do not deny the existence of Jesus Christ, but if there ever was such a person then in all likelihood he was born in late Spring or early Summer. Halloween is directly from the ancient Pagan religions; the holiday was originally called Samhain. I do not condemn any religion because all have their merits, I do condemn people who misuse religion as a way to put down others. The author seems to say the same thing but instead… Read more »

andre
andre

How wrong you are "Shane". Wether you belive that Jesus is the son of God or not, we do know that he has excisted. About 30.000(!) scriptures besides the bibel, is witnessing the existence of Jesus Christ.

Basil Oglenthorne
Basil Oglenthorne

Resident of the White House Obama went to Easter sunday services at this occultic temple today. What more needs to be said?

Obadiah
Obadiah

The first stone carving under "Apocalyptic Pillar" isn't just showing the Twin Towers collapsing – ALL the buildings are collapsing. If you look above the buildings you see waves of water. The scene is depicting the destruction of NY City from massive tidal waves. The second pillar also shows waves of water in the middle portion of it….

GodAlone
GodAlone

HAARP?? (Tesla technology)

The Messenger
The Messenger

Not so. That scene is depicting the RAPTURE – the destruction of the world trade center towers. Soon the rider of the black horse of the apocalypse will descend on Magog and Gog – the perpetrators of that event. The abomination that causes desolation will soon be BEHIND BARS. Expect it.. God is great!

Throne
Throne

Shane will you at it, pray for the statue of liberty and the antactic ocean.

GOD is not to be mocked buddy, but you know that don't you.

parfait
parfait

Whoever wrote this ignorant piece is truly one of Lucifer's warriors – get educated beyond your ignorance – Medieval Catholic churches were built on pagan sites and a lot of its and other christian churches perform strange rituals that have been corrupted from pagan practices, You live in an illusion. You are so grounded in your materialism you cannot see the spiritual connections and messaging the ancients were telling us. They were around long before powerful and greedy men constructed the fairy story that all religions of the world peddle.

steve
steve

What utter crap…

Shane
Shane

hummm what is wrong with worshiping the sun …far better than an imaginary God, or imaginary Jesus both of whom never existed in the first place … the Sun is Real, the Moon is Real, The Sun does provide life for 99.99999% of the life on earth. God is a delusion created by iron age men.

Maarten
Maarten

What a waste to lose your soul if you don’t know the least about history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus How did mankind come into existence? Evolution? Where are all the faulty missing links of all living things? Neanderthal man, who has been proven to be a normal homo sapiens sapiens? No, wait, the scattered bones put together of a fossilised ape and man. And not to forget, infurtile species, like the offspring of horses and donkeys. And those are not so much different than what is implied by scientists. O yes, if a missing link can exist out of nowhere it is a new species which cannot create furtile offspring with other species. Never in the history of the world has one organism created totally new strands of improved, evolved, genetic material. It has always en will always be a variety of what already exists. Behold the human eye for example, a marble of engineering. Sure, no sweat for a lizard to change into a mammal, right? They only have completely different metabolisms! No God needed there either, right? It’s a piece of cake for cells to come up with such complicated biology. Surely, cells must have collective intelligence to understand everything going… Read more »

cNeWbZ
cNeWbZ

shane how can you say oh gods not real, so sun worship's better. i can admit that i dont beleive in god however this beleif unites millions. the worship of the sun is not literal you moron it represents satan and the light he brings to the so called elite. so you think that the worship of the figure ment to be all evil is better then the worship of a merciful creator? your either screwed up or just very dumb

Julian
Julian

you are all very ignorant, the sun god is not satan, the sun god IS GOD. you dumb christian people think there is chrstianity (good, loving, th truth) and everything pagan(bad satanic) you are so ignorant…. pagan is by no means the same that satanic, and paganism, occultism, hermetism and the like are not evil, allarticles in this page talk of occult imagery as something evil, you dont understand that the sun god, osiris, brahma, god the father etc. are different symbols for one single absolute truth, niether of them has anything to do with "satan" dumbasses. actually, christ is the same entity as krishna, horus, and quetzalcoatl. occult ideas and siymbolism hav nothing to do with the elites, and making people dumb ant controll them, its the oposyte, they are about knowledge, and the spirit, and about freedom for all humans, you christian imbeciles trapped in your duality of god versus satan dont know that christianity is jusst the same old pagan mystery religions but with new symbols? christmass is the birthday of the sun god mithras, the same "entity" that christ. so no, the sun god is not satan you stupid fucker stop playing the smart in internet… Read more »

Tristan Harrell
Tristan Harrell

Julian– You know nothing about Christianity. When you worship an object, or a planet, you have allowed Satan to take over your mind. You're doing what Satan wants you to do, so you're living for him. You may not be knowingly worshiping him, but the worship of an object is insanely evil and demented.

MZ
MZ

Dude – I couldn't agree more.

Stephen
Stephen

Shane # 1.) You are a fool. Imaginary Jesus? Don't you know that there is factual archeological evidence of his existence? Saying Jesus is imaginary is like saying king Tut is also an imaginary figure. You may not believe in what he stood for, but don't be so foolish in your remarks.

Christi
Christi

I absolutely believe in the historical existence of a man called Jesus. He was a good man who tried to show by teaching and example the loving way life should be lived. He was murdered by those who found him to be dangerous. His story was written by men who never knew him. It is estimated that they wrote about him at least 100 years after he died. They made up much of his story, borrowing from the myths that had grown up about him and each other. A cult sprang up from people who believed i the stories and thought him to be a god. This was called Christianity and became a major religion in part by order of Emperors and Kings.

I believe in the fact that a very good man lived in Israel 2000 or so years ago. I do not believe that he was God.

TellItLikeItIS
TellItLikeItIS

His name was never Jesus. He was africoniod man, Yeshwa is a closer description of his name.

cecil
cecil

so that is an intresting spelling but i am no scholar of ancient writting. similairly i believ his name was yeshewa binyoden (phanetic) and that jesus christ is greek for "one who is annointed"

Elena
Elena

Jesus is the Greek form of the Aramaic name Ye'shua or Joshua — The Lord saves. In Greek, it would sound like "Yee-soos." That moves into other Indo-European languages as "Jesus" w/a variety of vernacular pronunciations. Christ is Greek for the Hebrew/Aramaic Messiah, the anointed one.

He was a Jewish man, Hebrew, not Africanoid as one poster put it. Scholars believe that Luke's listed ancestry is likely Mary's side of the family. In any event, He was fm the tribe of Judah, as opposed to being fm Benjamin or Levi — the only other tribes still able to identify themselves. Matthew provides a stylized list of Joseph's family tree. It is entirely plausible that both Mary and Joseph were descendants of the great King David.

YHWHZSON
YHWHZSON

One's goals start in the mind(imagination) and the last step to the process is the materialization, fulfilling of those goals. Mathematics is proof of this. I can not understand the lack of mental power people have to grasp such a simplistic concept. The sun is no more than a galactic coal burning. You might as well worship the same piece of coal on your barbecue grill. Before man was able, through instruments such as the telescope, see the stars in the galaxy did they not exist? Just because people fail to realize and use the intellectual telescope to see GOD THE GREAT does not mean he does not exist. We were given A MANUAL (EMMANUEL)! USE IT! For example just to show how brain dead people are. In the KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE it says: Isaiah 40:21 ¶ Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth? Isaiah 40:22 [It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent… Read more »

AShane(a sin)
AShane(a sin)

calm down, man..
if he don't understand about that, then no one can save him..
Just let him Go… 😀 (y)

no need to CAPSLOCK.. 😉

anonymous
anonymous

Jesus did exist and he is God. iron age men are who worship the sun & the moon as they didnt know better..as they believed only in what they saw. Can you see the atoms? can you see the wind? can you see your soul? can you see your words? yet they exist. The Holy Trinity exist, believe and pray and you will come to understand life.

Prayer warrior
Prayer warrior

I am truly blessed by this message. TY!

derp
derp

You're going to hell .. You better read the 10 Commandments again about who "God" is . .

ann
ann

I'd rather live my life as if there is a God, die and find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't a God and die to find out there is.

mfish
mfish

amen!

Mark
Mark

Actualy Shane, belief in God is not imaginary, it is what's known as faith. The 'faith' goes on to state that life is everlasting… the soul lives on after the body has died. Why worship the 'sun', as it to will one day die. But God will never die.

Shadowflower
Shadowflower

agreed. you got a problem with paganism? got a problem with pagan symbolism? got a problem with celebrating the cycles of the natural world?
@YHWHZSON, your KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE is a lie. It is an incredibly flawed, politically motivated translation of a holy text that was cobbled together from various writings of charlatans and homespun prophets by a political group of stuck-up Romans. Also, You are quite correct, and mathematics does indeed prove this, but "one's goals start in the mind and the last step to the process is the materialization, fulfilling of those goals"-that right there my friend is the logic behind ritual magick, and indeed all of the occult arts and sciences.

AShane(a Sin)
AShane(a Sin)

@shadowflower :
Bye, man..
bye..
you'll get punished for what you've said..
Just relax.. 😀

pearl
pearl

God is real too.

RAMSES
RAMSES

Silly Rabbit …. Tricks are for kids!

Ripp the jakka
Ripp the jakka

You obviously know nothing considering first that most of life on earth is underwater and nearly 70% of it isn't in any need of water and that's only a fraction of whats actually discovered the rest is so far beneath water and again needs no sun at all, so it looks like you do not know much about science which is we're I assume u dwell on in the opinion of our Creator whom absolutely exists, and you can ask most doctors and physics ts with a much better education the You who will agree that there is unexplained factors of the world but there scientist they can onluyy admit it off record. Next to that there is pretty much more proof of actuall existence of Jesus Christ then there is of WWII… I think your ignorant but it's ok u r I the same realm of other lazy nonbeliever that feel the world should be handed to them. Maybe. Try using the power of prayer and you will see what divinity can come to you.

Jessica
Jessica

I don't think there's anything wrong with it. It's how these wicked people are using these beliefs to benefit themselves. Or to use it as a tool to scare people into thinking that pagans are all evil sun worshipers. These people pervert all religion, not just Christianity I like to think that it is a magnificent thing to have the sun there. I don't think it is god but it is apart of it, and we humans are lucky enough to see the sun rise and set everyday on this beautiful planet. If there was a heaven it would look like nature, what else could anyone ask for, it took god a great effort to create all of this so that we could be here. So you say, just because you don't believe in Jesus you go to hell, or are somehow a bad person, sorry to say, but that is psychologically f****d up to say to someone

Tracey
Tracey

The Bible states that he who does not believe in His Son, Jesus Christ, shall not enter Heaven gates. You either all in or all out. You can't believe bits and pieces of the Bible. It is His Word.

Meryetamun
Meryetamun

And who wrote the bible (designed to separate human beings, told before 500 years of good biology and physics)? A man, not your GOD, a human being. And if you dont know how much they lie by now, you have lived a very sheltered life. Do you understand people back in the day believed this because they had no understanding of death and they were scared, or because they would be killed if they didnt conform. There is no excuse now a days, just small mindedness. Our true creator (probably energy) gave you the biggest computer in your brain ever built and you still wont use it and find out about the world we live in for yourself, amazing. How ungrateful also to be so stuck on the next life that you do nothing to help your fellow human beings right here and now, starving to death, being bombed, raped, murdered. Much easier to sit around talking about the next life right? Wake up

666
666

Don't bother, Meryetamun. These Christurds are far too brainwashed and mindless to comprehend that God doesn't exist and that everything they believe in is a lie. They are literally mindless zombies, not unlike the groaning, shambling corpses from zombie horror movie.

Don't talk with them or pay attention to them, or these accursed Christurds will brainwash you too with their crap.

jessie
jessie

'' These Christurds are far too brainwashed and mindless to comprehend that God doesn't exist and that everything they believe in is a lie''. HOW, just HOW on Earth do you know for a fact that God doesnt exist?? Do you care to share all the concrete proofs that give you the absolute certainty that God doesnt exist? You have to be all-knowing to know that for a fact and you must have at least the humbility to acknowledge that you simply dont know it. You cannot know, you can only believe or not. Calling people names wont make them believe less in God. Sorry, there is nothing you can do to take their faith away. You may insult them, scold them, discriminate them but you dont need to do all this. All you have to do is to prove your atheism to be correct and to provide concrete absolute proofs that will completely remove all doubts that there is no God. Can you do that? Can you prove your atheism to be a fact? Because to state atheism as a fact, like you did, you have to prove it first to be a fact. Can you do that? You… Read more »

Rheinn
Rheinn

Maybe youre made from animal s**t that's why ypu dont believe in God.

Meryetamun
Meryetamun

So true! People need to wake up and realize, the very people you have all been lead to believe by the powerful humans that be, to be devil worshipers are actually the ones that truly care about the human race and the earth and everything here with us. Why do you think they mock the pope and Christianity? Because they know it is all lies, to keep fellow human beings separated from each other, all worrying about the next life while they understand there is no next life and make their millions on the backs of us, the slaves. Why do you think the Vatican are so rich? While they have people starving to death right outside their walls, while they wear robes of Gold? Because they dont care about the earth and the human race living on for years, they care only about lining their own pockets here and now, because they know there is no next life, so they dont care! Why do you think they hide the original scriptures of the bible? Why is the fall of NYSE on this building? Because these people understand how evil its concept is, and every other big organisation in the… Read more »

666
666

Well said.

But don't think these mindless Christurds will get it.

Jessy
Jessy

You know it for a fact that there is no God how exactly? You know it for a fact Jesus didnt exist, just how exactly? Share with us what makes you dead sure about, tell us what gives you the absolute certainty about, dazzle us. Ever thought of the possibility that there might be a God? What wuld be your excuse then??

bemo
bemo

And who created the sun, moon and you?

GodAlone
GodAlone

Why worship one of God's creations and not God the Creator?

666
666

I spit on your God's eye, you inbred w-hore.

AShane(a sin)
AShane(a sin)

carefull with what are you saying, Man…
you're in the wrong place..
This is a Warn..

but, i don't agree with you..

A.R.
A.R.

You misunderstood the author. These people are going to worship under deception, false pretenses of Christianity. If they want to be The Pagan Church of Humanism, that's what they should hang over their door.

finger in her hole
finger in her hole

Once the last thrust of passion ceases and the climax has left a come filled hole, the key is to watch the come flow from her lips… slowly oozing. If you are a gentleman, you will use the cum as lubricant to finger bang her. Curve your fingers upwards, in a "come here" fashion while thrusting them deeply and rather forcefully. Once she nears the end, her whole body writhing in ecstasy, watch as she comes harder than ever! Then perhaps, you should finger bang her again.

Finger bottom
Finger bottom

Only this time…put a finger in her behind as well! Fill her up!

Shamael Ben Shabatha
Shamael Ben Shabatha

When I read all these comments, it confirms me that so many people write and speak about a subject from which they ignore all. The only words God vs Satan, or, will Satan take over the world or even better Stans worshiping, let me think about how low there knowledge is and how much they are interested in the only religion that has any value, TRUTH. Jesus in what he represents in the bible is the Sun, the son of God, that holyness that keeps all alive. The opponent of his light is the darkness. All monotheistic Religions lead human in error, that is the reason for all this violence we live over thousand of years and it goes on. We are in an universe of counter rotating fields of magnetism. On a general point of view, a magnet has two poles that attract or reject. But, the human is a double 4 pole magnet and his double 4 pole fields give him a power that none of those who have not studied this can ever imagine. It are those 4 pole magnetic fields that give us the ability to find attraction points and that makes all these humans on… Read more »

Laird Giezuss
Laird Giezuss

Looking at this article and then looking at your home page, one might get the impression that you consider the “Paganism” label to be interchangeable with the “Satanism” label and/or the “BAD PEOPLE” label. You seem to ignore the fact that Paganism predates the “official” (for official, read political) religions by many centuries. Since it predates “Christ-ism,” “Juda-ism” and that other Abrahamic device that we’re not allowed to mention, it OBVIOUSLY predates Satanism, since Satan is a creation of this “Big Three” group of population-control devices.

People who presume to speak with authority, an authority based on membership in some portion of the “Big Three”(Big Tree?), always sound so…unauthoritative. To devalue science in the fear that it will stop the humans from terminally befouling their own nest…shame, shame…why, it’s science that has given you this internet tool, that you may use it to clutter the cyber-spaces with your…ideas. (you might consider having someone proof the text before posting…)

Ms. Dobbs at #45, thanks for the lifeline back to “reality”–praise Bob…

Connie Dobbs
Connie Dobbs

SUPERIOR MUTANTS! REPENT! QUIT YOUR JOB! SLACK OFF!! THE WORLD ENDS TOMORROW AND YOU MAY DIE (well, no, probably not….but whatever you do, just keep reading!) ARE WE CONTROLLED BY SECRET FORCES? Do you ever get the feeling that "free will" is a joke? DO PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE STRANGE? DO YOU?? Then you may be on the right track! ARE YOU ABNORMAL? Then you are probably on the right track! ARE ALIEN SPACE MONSTERS BRINGING A STARTLING NEW WORLD? IF you suspect that things are much worse than you ever suspected– IF the only thing you've been able to laugh at for the last 5 years is the fact that NOTHING is funny anymore– IF you sometimes want to collar people on the street and scream that you're more "different" than they could possibly imagine — IF you can help us with a donation — IF you see the whole universe as one vast morbid sense of sick humor — IF the current 'Age of Progress' seems more like the Dark Ages to you — IF you are looking for an inherently contradictory religion that will condone megadegeneracy and yet tell you that you are "above" everyone else — THE… Read more »

Marcus
Marcus

Practically every single story from the New Testament was stolen from paganism along with the land they worshiped on.