The Occult Interpretation of the Movie “Black Swan” and Its Message on Show Business

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“Black Swan” is an intense psychological thriller describing a ballet dancer’s metamorphosis into the “Black Swan”. Behind the movie’s freaky facade lies a profound commentary on the cost of fame, the sacrifice of artists and the hidden forces behind the shady world of high-stakes entertainment. We will look at the occult symbolism of the movie and its themes relating to the dark side of show business.

Directed by Darren Aronofsky, Black Swan follows the shy ballet dancer Nina on her path to success in the demanding world of professional ballet. Black Swan can be considered a companion piece to the director’s previous movie, The Wrestler, which also describes the ups and downs of a troubled person working in a lesser-known field in the performing arts: professional wrestling. Although both movies explore similar themes (i.e. sacrificing one’s self for the good of the performance), the world in which Nina evolves and the obstacles she must endure are diametrically opposed to those of The Wrestler. Randy “The Ram” Robinson is a blue-collar guy living in a blue-collar town and must cope with the physical pain caused by his blue-collar lifestyle.  Nina, on the other hand, performs in the refined world of ballet and her struggles are psychological, emotional and even spiritual.

I often point out that great works of art can be interpreted in numerous ways, depending on the knowledge and experiences of each viewer. This movie is no exception … there are indeed numerous ways to interpret the plot of the movie. Through the use of meanings and symbols, however, the movie clearly alludes to many issues previously discussed on The Vigilant Citizen: the dark and occult side of fame, duality, trauma-based mind control, the forced creation of an alter persona and more. The main character, Nina, goes through a metaphysical change – by getting in touch with her “dark side” –  in order to become a better performer. This change is imposed on Nina by her “handler”, in this case, her ballet director. The movie uses subtle references to trauma-based mind control to explain the creation of an independent alter-person in Nina’s psyche.

Although Black Swan is fiction, it nevertheless explores hidden realities of high-stakes art and performance. There are numerous examples of artists who have embraced darker alter egos to take their art to “another level” … and many who ultimately are consumed by them. We will look at the occult and mind-control elements of Black Swan and see how they relate to some of the realities of the world of professional entertainment.

Warning: Major spoilers ahead!

Movie Summary

Black Swan is a modern retelling of Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky’s classic ballet, Swan Lake. In the movie, the ballet director, Thomas Leroy (played by Vincent Cassel), describes to his dancers the basic plot of the ballet:

“We all know the story. Virginal girl, pure and sweet, trapped in the body of a swan. She desires freedom, but only true love can break the spell. Her wish is nearly granted in the form of a prince. But, before he can declare his love, the lustful twin, the Black Swan, tricks and seduces him. Devastated, the White Swan leaps off a cliff, killing herself and, in death, finds freedom”.

Nina, a shy and fragile young woman is chosen to play the role of the Swan Queen and must, therefore, embody both the pure White Swan and the evil Black Swan. Her quest for perfection as a ballet dancer leads her to experience, in her everyday life, the transformation experienced by the White Swan in the ballet’s story. The events of Nina’s daily life, therefore, mirror the story of the character she takes on as a ballet dancer, ultimately leading to confusion and, as the line between reality and fiction blurs, to apparent insanity.

The director’s use of mirrors and reflections in numerous scenes are a constant reminder of Nina’s altered perception of reality. Mirrors in the movie are often misleading and Nina’s reflections seem to have a “life of their own”. As Nina becomes haunted by the Black Swan, this alternate persona takes a life of its own and acts outside of Nina’s conscious control. We will explain later how this relates to trauma-based mind control.

If you have not read other articles on this site, trauma-based mind control – also known as Monarch Programming –  is the process in which an individual is subjected to intense trauma and dehumanization in order to cause a mental dissociation. This causes a fragmentation of the slave’s personality and enables the handler to create an alternate persona that can be programmed at will. Some researchers claim there are occult elements at work in this process.

“Project MONARCH could be best described as a form of structured dissociation and occultic integration, in order to compartmentalize the mind into multiple personalities within a systematic framework. During this process, a Satanic ritual, usually including Cabalistic mysticism, is performed with the purpose of attaching a particular demon or group of demons to the corresponding alter(s). Of course, most skeptics would view this as simply a means to enhance trauma within the victim,  negating any irrational belief that demonic possession actually occurs.”
– Ron Patton, Project Monarch

A promotional poster for Black Swan. Nina (played by Natalie Portman) is shown with a crack in her face, representing the fracturing of her personality, an important concept, and symbol of mind control

Let’s now look at some central themes of the movie.

Nina and her Trauma

Nina lives in a small New York apartment with her mother, Erica, about whom the least we can say is that she is overbearing. Many allusions to trauma-based mind control can be found in Nina’s living environment and her mother’s controlling behavior.

Nina’s bedroom. Notice the butterflies on the wall, a reference to Monarch programming. Next to the window is a big white rabbit, a symbol of mind control originating from Alice in Wonderland – a fairy tale used in the programming of MK slaves.  By following the White Rabbit Alice is lead to an alternate world, Wonderland, which, in mind control terms, refers to a slave’s dissociative state.

Nina’s mother, a retired ballet dancer who failed to become a star, acts more as a mind-control handler than a mother. She obviously has boundary issues and keeps tight control over all aspects of Nina’s life. Real-life Monarch slaves often start their difficult lives as victims of ritual abuse in their own household. Symbols relating to mind control in Nina’s house probably reflect this sad reality, including her pink, childlike bedroom.

Every night, Erica Sayers winds up the music box next Nina in order to make the little ballerina dance. This is quite symbolic of Nina’s mind-controlled state.
Erica Sayers, Nina’s mother, forcibly undressing her adult daughter. This unsettling scene depicts to Nina’s total submission to her mother and also hints to the unhealthy sexual “familiarity” between the two.

Other people in Nina’s life, apparently preying on her weakness and “victim energy”, take advantage of her sexually.

An old pervert makes obscene gestures to Nina while riding the train. This disturbing scene tells a lot about Nina’s relation to sexuality. Sexual predators sometimes have the sick ability to sniff out and prey on sex-abuse victims.

Nina’s mother has, therefore, subjected her daughter to trauma-based mind control in order to make her a submissive woman who would realize her mother’s failed dreams. This has trained Nina to disassociate to make her existence bearable, which in turn makes Nina the perfect subject for the creation of a dark alter persona: the Black Swan.

Bringing out the Black Swan

Getting back to the storyline, Thomas, the ballet director, is looking for a new ballet star play the role of the Swan Queen. Nina’s meticulous dancing is perfect to play the role of the White Swan, but she must also be able to play the Black Swan, a role that requires the dancer to be twisted, sexual and dangerous. Nina’s frigid style is not suitable for the Black Swan, but Thomas chooses her as the Swan Queen anyway. He knows she has it in her, and he will bring it out.

Thomas bringing out the Black Swan in Nina

At one point, Thomas tells Nina:

“Perfection is not just about control. It is also about letting go. Surprise yourself so you can surprise the audience. Transcendence. Very few have it in them.”

Watching Nina dance, he later says:

“I knew the White Swan wouldn’t be a problem. The real work would be your metamorphosis into her evil twin.”

In order to obtain perfection, or in alchemical terms, to accomplish the Great Work, Nina must master both good and evil – light and darkness. The occult concept of duality becomes therefore extremely important (more on this later).

Thomas’ job is to create in Nina a new, aggressive and sexual alter-ego. He, therefore, becomes Nina’s new mind-control handler. Whereas her mother “programmed” her daughter to be a submissive ballet dancer who never questions her mother/handler, Thomas requires her to embrace the exact opposite. He represents the “big league”, the next level of Monarch programming.

After her meeting with Thomas, Nina, dressed in white, crosses the path of another Nina, dressed in black. This symbolically represents the coming of Nina’s new, dark alter-ego.

In order to become a Black Swan, Nina must be able to be somewhat comfortable with sex and even enjoy it. So Thomas gives Nina homework: to “touch herself”. Ready to do everything to become a better dancer, Nina tries to masturbate but her mother causes a blockage. Sexual pleasure becomes, therefore, a form of emancipation from her mother’s control and her initiation to the “big league”.

As the Black Swan grows in power, Nina starts hallucinating physical mutations on her body. The only other person that can see these mutations are Nina’s mother, who, as a handler, has the “key” to her psyche. She is aware of Nina’s gradual transformation and tries to repress it, knowing it will cause the loss of her “little girl”.

Nina hallucinates all kinds of strange mutations on her body. They represent the gradual coming out of the Black Swan in her.

This situation reflects the ugly truth behind the real-life ritual abuse. Children, who are already dissociative due to their parent’s abuse, are handed over to “higher instances” who continue the programming process. In this case, Nina is handed over to the entertainment world (known to use Monarch programming on celebrities) to create in her an alter persona destined to be a world-renowned star.

Thomas presenting the new Swan Queen, Nina

In order for Nina to become the new Swan Queen, however, someone must step down.

Beth MacIntyre: The Ageing Star Who Was Pushed Aside

Beth MacIntyre at Nina’s crowning ceremony. She has just learned she is no longer the Swan Queen. She is obviously not happy.

Beth MacIntyre (played by Winona Ryder) is the previous star of the ballet company.  However, she is growing old and “losing her edge”. As a veteran, Beth already went through the “Black Swan process”, and, as some people might say, she “sold her soul to the devil”. Although this deal gave her years of great performances, in the end, the process completely destroyed her. She has become a bitter, conceited and hateful person who is incapable of existing without being the Black Swan.

There are many real-life cases of celebrities suffering the same fate. After being recruited, programmed and primed by the industry to become a superstar, they are suddenly dropped and forgotten. Being psychologically damaged, not knowing who they really are, the fallen stars sink into depression, drugs, alcoholism and even suicide.

Thomas, who was Beth’s handler (he called her “my little princess”, a mind-control trigger) no longer needs the alter-ego he created in her. It is however impossible to “deprogram” her, so she completely loses her mind. The next day, the ballet company learns she got hit by a car. Thomas says:

“You know what, I’m also sure she did it on purpose. Everything Beth does comes from within, from some dark impulse. I guess that’s what makes her so thrilling to watch … so dangerous … even perfect at times. But also so damn destructive.”

So the “spirit”, the alter ego that consumed and destroyed Beth, was also the hidden force behind her great performances. The public has always been fascinated by intense and inspired performers who touch them on a primal and visceral level.  Depending on the performance, this source of artistic transcendence has been attributed to the divine or to the devil. Controversial and groundbreaking performers have often dwelt between brilliance and insanity – tapping into a mysterious force at the source of artistic greatness and, on the other hand, imminent self-destruction. Religious people might say this force is nothing less than spirit possession; scientists might say that psychological torment leads to creativity. No matter the term one uses for this “force”, it certainly exists and it is tapped into by some of the world’s most influential artists. Beth hosted this force and it completely destroyed her … and now it can move on to Nina.

The Black Swan Takes Over (Black Wings and Mirrors)

A symbolic movie poster. From the little ballerina rises, as a phoenix from its ashes, a gigantic and menacing Black Swan.

The Black Swan is the artistically brilliant yet spiritually destructive force Thomas wants to see born in Nina. He obviously knows about the Black Swan’s devastating powers, but he doesn’t care and never did: he is after the ultimate performance. Once Nina has been “used” up by the Swan, he will find another dancer to replace her. He is a representation of the entertainment industry, which manipulates artists into becoming Black Swans,  ultimately trashing them when the Swan’s effects have faded.

Black Wings

The “force” of the Black Swan is symbolically represented by black wings at different stages of the movie.

Shortly after being crowned “Swan Queen”, Nina is fascinated by this creepy statue. Little does she know that it represents what she is about to become.
Black wings on the back of Lily (played by Mila Kunis) while she is “giving pleasure” to Nina. The black wings represent the “force” that is communing with Nina. It is penetrating her, giving her orgasm, but also taking over her life.
Nina at the end of her “perfect” performance as the Black Swan. She is briefly shown with black wings, symbolizing that she has become “one” with the Black Swan.

Mirrors

Mirrors are used throughout the movie to symbolically reflect the true state of Nina’s psyche.

Creepy mirror reflection that has a mind of its own. As her metamorphosis advances, Nina realizes that a totally separate entity is living within her. It is completely acting outside of her control. In mind-control symbolism, mirror reflections represent a slave’s alter-persona that is programmed and manipulated by a handler.
Right before her big performance as the Black Swan, Nina fights against herself in her dressing room. During the fight between Nina and the Black Swan, mirror breaks, representing the collapse of the psychological boundary separating both entities. By shattering the mirror, Nina becomes the Black Swan.

The Magnum Opus and the Sacrifice

At the show’s premiere, Nina gives a stellar performance. She successfully plays the sweet and timid White Swan, and, when the time came, she was overtaken by the “force” to become the twisted, yet thrilling, Black Swan. By marrying the white and the black, the good and the evil, the light and the dark, Nina has accomplished the alchemical Great Work, the occult path to illumination.

The process, however, consumed her. By allowing the Black Swan to completely possess her, Nina gave the performance of a lifetime, but she has become a different person. Thomas and the audiences are in love with Nina as the Black Swan – the same way the prince of the ballet falls in love with the White Swan’s evil twin. But this is not the “real” Nina. The Black Swan is a destructive force she cannot live with: it is tormenting her on a physical and psychological level. Not able to go on, the only way Nina can free herself, is by killing herself. And this is what she does.

Nina dying at the end of her performance. Her last words to Thomas: “I was perfect”. 

Does this remind you of anyone else’s self-sacrificing performance?

Lady Gaga “sacrificed” in her performance at the 2009 VMA’s.

Real Life Black Swans

Beyonce and Sasha Fierce, a pop-music equivalent of the White and Black Swan.

There are real (and tragic) examples of brilliant artists who have been consumed by an intense role. Either they self-destroyed or they HAD to die as a ritual sacrifice. Is Black Swan a commentary on this mysterious phenomena?

A recent example of a self-destructive role is Heath Ledger’s Joker in The Dark Knight.

People close the Ledger claim his role as the Joker caused his demise.

Jack Nicholson warned Heath Ledger on ‘Joker’ role

Heath Ledger thought landing the demanding role of the Joker was a dream come true – but now some think it was a nightmare that led to his tragic death.

Jack Nicholson, who played the Joker in 1989 – and who was furious he wasn’t consulted about the creepy role – offered a cryptic comment when told Ledger was dead.

“Well,” Nicholson told reporters in London early Wednesday, “I warned him.”

Though the remark was ambiguous, there’s no question the role in the movie earmarked as this summer’s blockbuster took a frightening toll.

Ledger recently told reporters he “slept an average of two hours a night” while playing “a psychopathic, mass-murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy …

“I couldn’t stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going.”

Prescription drugs didn’t help, he said.

– NY Daily News, Source

For more on Heath Ledger, read this article I wrote on his last movie and symbols regarding his sacrifice “The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus” and Heath Ledger’s Sacrifice.

Another example of an actor dying in mysterious circumstances after playing the role of a devilish and twisted character is Brandon Lee as The Crow.

Brandon Lee mysteriously died during the filming of The Crow. The official story of his death is still widely disputed. The scene during which he died was highly symbolic.

In addition to those two extreme cases, there are many cases of artists who, after years of brilliance, mysteriously self-destroyed. Drugs and suicide are often blamed for the tragedies but who really knows what happened with Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain and Jim Morrison, just to name a few?

In Conclusion

Black Swan is a profound movie that can be interpreted on many levels. We looked at the occult and mind-control elements of the movie and examined its messages on the shady world of show business. The movie’s commentary on the entertainment world’s marriage with occult forces is something that has been discussed numerous times on the Vigilant Citizen. Although the concept is rarely discussed or even noticed by the average person, insiders in the entertainment world often attest to strange forces of varying kinds at work in the industry.

Through Nina’s metamorphosis from a shy nobody to a possessed superstar, the viewers experience the dark side of entertainment. Mind control, manipulation and immorality collide with success and recognition. Dark impulses, addictions, and self-destruction arise with artistic genius and creative brilliance. Those who are “running the show” know how to bring the Black Swan out of up-and-coming artists … and they know very well it will destroy them in the long run. And they are OK with that. The same way Beth was pushed aside to welcome a new Swan Queen, the public will always welcome the elite’s newest star with applause and acclaim. Because, as they say, the show must go on.

 


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Nate
Nate

Fantastic analysis, especially of the symbolism and sexual themes. I only disagree with you about the reasons for Nina's death. I think that she had to die because she could never have given another performance like that again. In the first act of the play when we see her portraying the white swan she is nervous and fragile, perfect for that role. Before act 2 begins she "murders" Lilly in her dressing room. The symbolism here is a bit confusing, but the bottom line is that she realizes she's "killed" Lilly and this act of evil and passion allows her to complete her transformation into the black swan. After nailing that role, she returns to her dressing room to change back into the white swan. As she's applying her white makeup, she's interrupted by Lilly, who is clearly still alive. Realizing that she hadn't actually killed Lilly forced her back into her nervous, fragile emotional state. In a way it took away her confidence. But this is to her advantage because her emotional state once again matches her costume and she is able to go out and complete act 3 perfectly. Having brilliantly accomplished the culmination of her lifetime's work,… Read more »

EYES&EARS
EYES&EARS

I don't understand HOW anyone can learn about this stuff, the dark side, occult, Illuminati, Freemasons, Bohemian Grove, Skull & Bones, Luciferianism, etc.,etc.,etc. and NOT go bee-lining for God, The Most High!! Doesn't learning about all this stuff scare the sh!t out of you???? DAMN, it sure did me! Not long after my dive down the rabbit hole, I became converted. I'm, at least, TRYING to go the right way. I wish people would stop knockin' others who are only trying to spread the word about the truth. When you have a love for the TRUTH, you naturally gravitate toward God because that's exactly what He is, The TRUTH!!! Man, that was a no-brainer for me. Once you begin to "investigate" the spiritual side of things, God becomes very real. For crying out loud, even the demons believe and they TREMBLE!! Doesn't that truth alone pack a punch?!?!?!

Believing is seeing.

queentron
queentron

100% agree!! i pretty much did the same thing

Sue
Sue

AMEN!

Sue

Tralalal
Tralalal

No, it didn't have that effect on me. Why? Because all the stuff on VC doesn't actually prove the existence of a spiritual world, it only proves the existence of people who believe such things. It also proves how complex but also easy to manipulate the human psyche is. Yeah; I find that scary. However, there is no proof for God and no proof for the Devil.

Giselle
Giselle

Did Nina as the black swan write w***e in the bathroom mirror?

Ralphster
Ralphster

Natalie Portman is in the new Miss Dior perfume commercial, directed by Sofia Coppola, with music by Serge Gainsbourg. All three of them are supposed to be from Illuminati bloodlines (see Pseudo Occult Media for more info). Don't buy Dior.

severalminds
severalminds

also yves saint lauren…most of the stylists are part of THEM…as most of the artificially launched famous people of show business.

YSL wrote a satanist book for children called "tremendous lulu"….i think it may be a good article for VC…
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=10937

iri
iri

You should mention that her name NINA means "DOLL" in other languages

Grey Pigeon
Grey Pigeon

'Blank Swan' Some more symbolism? All that tearing at fIngernails stuff in the sink = fragmented memories of torture trauma and subsequent disassociation? Birdcages on piano in living room at home. Check. (Needs conformation): during the drugged up dancing in club scene (with flashing colorful background and lots of fast cuts) – do any images of butterflies flash semi subliminally (similar in style to the bedroom wall paper)??? Blatant moon and sun symbolism in scenery 'on stage' in this movie – ie the ENORMOUS full moon (in an otherwise pretty empty set) as well as the ENORMOUS sun at the end (when she throws herself into the lake). Most traditional productions (of the real ballet) do not use such symbolism in those acts (or anywhere else in the ballet). I get the feeling the massive moon and then sun is deliberate symbolism (ie specific to this film only). And therefore is she perhaps *being* sacrificed to the sun – or under the sun? As far as I'm concerned the end of the ballet (the showdown with Von Rothbart and the leaping into the lake) happens at night or pre dawn – not in the day – after all, it's all… Read more »

Bay State Observer
Bay State Observer

Grey Pigeon, permit me to congratulate you on an excellent reply to VC's article on "Black Swan".

Very well done.

Gretchen Ellis
Gretchen Ellis

I think what bothers me most about this movie (that I have not seen for reasons that will be obvious below) is that it glorifies and even heroicizes childhood abuse in the pursuit of artistic genius. The shattering of her psyche is desirable because it allows her to embrace her dark side and become "perfect" in her art. The truth of child abuse is so far from this that this twisted lie is disgusting. As a victim of childhood sexual and emotional abuse, I find such a glorification of trauma to be revolting and horrifying. You do not become "perfect" or "better" because you are abused. In fact you spend the rest of your life believing you are just the opposite. Hollywood is slowly preaching the message that abuse and trauma are titillating, exciting, and arousing. Child abuse is the gateway to sexual freedom of expression; emotional abuse is just over sensitivity and not a big deal. These are the messages of films like this and real victims of abuse will have a harder and harder time finding healing and justice from a society that thinks that such things should be ignored or "gotten over" at best or enjoyed by… Read more »

severalminds
severalminds

i do agree with you…i was thinking the same about how the hollywood hidden ped…. lobby try to "normalise" and even idealise the sexual abuse on children…see the polanski case – so many actors without any shame took the side of polanski…not because they thought Polanski was innocent, no, but they said that "yes, he did this disgusting act, but don't touch him"…

severalminds
severalminds

there are some actors or "stars" that i don't like just by feeling, from the first moment that i saw them, i didn't like them, something unpleasant is pushing me away from them…i can't describe it better than it is trasmitted in this article, it seems that they have a kind of dark force, element inside them…among these is Nathalie Portman (that i don't consider so talented or carismatic, she hasn't personality for cinema, she hasn't that little shine, carisma which real stars had), Scarlett Johannson (strange face always expressing a kind of constant hate, unhappiness), Angelina Jolie (one of the worst by my opinion, she is famous only for her sexual attraction by my opinion, when she moves, seems a kind of plastic robot for erotic games, no feeling, no emotion, just big lips and long legs with emotionless face), then there is ashton kutcher (famous only after marriage with Demi Moor…), Lindsay Lohan (blah…obviously she is also of strange depression behaviour same as B.Spears), Justin Timberlake…there are many fake "stars" created by the evil industry even if those have no carisma, no talent. They are a kind of bad quality milk with a lot of conservants and attracting… Read more »

merfwriter
merfwriter

Here here, I say turn off the TV, watch less movies (at least the modern ones), and stop watching so much MTV and VHS. The symbols, subliminal messages, and reversed psychology is programing our minds to be robotic and subservient to the NWO agenda.

Only watch movies and TV if you want to have a little bit of fun decoding the movie and TV shows.

It really bugs you out once you know the symbols and means behind them. They are everywhere and there is no way around them. It makes you go a little stir crazy from time to time, its creepy but we need to know the TRUTH.

Randall Starr
Randall Starr

You speak of Tchaikovsky but he was just the composer of the music. It may be insulting to say “just” but you must in order to understand the awesome power of ballet – it’s too much for one to master to bring to history. Like the Director of Photography spends his whole life studying the moving image, he no longer has the time to study storytelling and filmmaking in its whole like the director.

After having been composed in 1876, it was only with the 1895 production, brought about by master ballet director Marius Petipa that what we know as Swan Lake took form. The plot brought forth by Tchaikovsky pales in comparison in terms of story and power. So you must consider this when speaking of history, it may be the case that Tchaikovsky might be much less known if not for Petipa.

Baby Blu7
Baby Blu7

I knew there was something really wrong with this movie. to be honest i was really creeped out by it.. it took me about three tries to watch it til the end. i was completely troubled by this movie. Thank you for explaining about all these symbolisms and things in it, you have answered my many questions about it.

André
André

It's interesting how the movie, although one of the best among those on the Oscar ceremony, was almost completely ignored. Maybe the prize shouldn't be given to a movie that criticize its own disturbing universe.

HOWEVER, Natalie Portman got the Oscar. Despite the movie's greatness in many aspects, only the "Black Swan" herself deserved the prize. The manipulated image of the main character was the only one to be praised, since the most of the movie was an attack on showbusiness.

Great job for them. Now, the ceremony won't rise any suspicions. The movie wasn't really ignored (only its theme), and the one who portrayed a disturbed puppet of showbusiness achieving success got its important prize.

Chris
Chris

All these comments and not one mention of the Jewish connection from Portman to Aronofsky to kabbalah to the Talmud.

Portman is a proud Jew. Now all you people have to do is read the Talmud to see what she thinks of you.

tracy h
tracy h

Hollywood hates women. in the worst way. You know how you may have a favorite actress ( or actor ) but then they play a horrible pscyho or violent or hateful role, and then you never view them favorably again? It sort of destroys them in your mind. Well, Holllywood publicists, producers and directors know that. But as VC said, they know they may be destroying an actor during a performance, and with them, it's still OK. I remember when Natalie Portman was so fresh, young and attractive, and it was a treat to see her in any role, especially in the Star Wars flicks, where she was usually the only bright spot. But will you ever forget her as the Black Swan? Will you ever see her as gentle, innocent and appealing again? I don't think most will.

X
X

I knew something was up with that movie. I had to rebuke it in Jesus' name. I left that movie theater feeling odd as all heck. Thank goodness I annointed myself before i left the house. I really didnt know what the film was going to be about, and so i had to go prepared. My cousin was the one who convinced me, I said no for so long becuase i just knew that i'd see the movie on here soon enough. Black Swan is taking over, and i'm over it. If that movies wasnt demonic i dont know what it. I will continue to rebuke it.

Oscar :)
Oscar :)

I'm tired of all these occult/illuminati themes everywhere
I turn on the radio, theres an illuminati artist playing24/7
on tv
the Internet
and even magazines
I can't go on my day without spotting their "secret" messages every f*cken time

dear people who are involved with the illuminati, I officially f*cken hate you

Bella
Bella

I know how you feel. Once I began noticing all of the symbolism in everything I watch and listen to, I could no longer enjoy anything! I feel completely betrayed. I used to LOVE LOVE LOVE Lady Gaga, but now I hardly listen to her anymore; I don't find her artistic anymore…just really creepy. And she's just one example. The celebrity I'm most surprised about is Beyonce. But Oscar, at least your eyes are opened. 🙂

camille
camille

at first i didn't like gaga, then i bought into the whole thing and loved her (saw her at msg in nyc too), then right after that i was DONE. she is so fake, everything that comes out of her mouth is garbage. i still listen to a few of the songs i liked, but rarely. i won't be listening to her new album either.

sofia
sofia

Ever hear of the AAkhet center in tallahassee FL? It has a pyramid with the eye of Horus in it and is a psychotherapy center. A psychologist focuses on the evaluation, prevention, diagnosis, and treatment of mental health issues. Psychologists are concerned with the different aspects of behavior and mental processes. A clinical psychologist uses psychotherapy and other counseling skills to improve emotional and mental health.

Scarlet
Scarlet

In my opinion, this is one of the greatest articles VC wrote. Janis Joplin also had an alter ego called 'Pearl' shortly before her death… May be this is something more than just a considence. It's so sad to think about it

Chris
Chris

set your permalinks:

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turn that into this:

http://vigilantcitizen.com/black-swan-occcult-rev

etc, to get better SEO + more views 🙂

Gerard
Gerard

The industry dissociates the mind from the body, the black swan lives And the white swan's dying, submission to the secular world without trying Take advantage of intellect, now they want us to buy it Dark alter persona, death is under the covers Sacrificial to liars, now you lying to others Surpassing human limits, is called transcendence You now have comfort with everything that would kill you Being raised wrong, creates so many traps It effects the way that you think, how you act That's why so many whites are racist towards blacks When people have power, it can escalate that Real-life ritual abuse ain't a joke, it's real like sprits, it's real like ghost The television does the same thing during shows, it's what I call mind control That's how it goes, and when you get old, they do not give a f**k They deprogram you, or they let you hit a bus The same thing happens to the fame coming up Self importance is first, second is self destruct Trust if you let something take you it will If it's communing with you now, it is making you ill Entities love to get into you and me There… Read more »

trish
trish

This site has been very instrumental in pointing out the occult meaning behind much if not most of pop culture. I would venture to say that nothing coming out of Hollywood is of any real merit to anyone. I don't think there is any form of neutral entertainment, it is either influenced by God (Jesus) or the devil. I know that sounds harsh but it would be silly to sit here and pretend otherwise. The question becomes this, do we continue to feast on Hollywood's offerings? Do we continue to dumbster dive for gold from obvious trash?

NJBeliever
NJBeliever

Once again, Vigilant Citizen is on the money in its analysis of occultic/mind-control obsessed movies and vids.

The only thing that I'd add is that in this whole "black and white" and "fusion of opposites", what the occultist/Illuminist is really referencing is the fusion of the "Sons of God" (angelic beings) and the "daughters of men." THIS is the true goal of being "illuminated." They are awaiting the age when the gods will return and ushering in the One World Order is supposed to facilitate this.

For more info on what the Bible says about the New World Order see here:

http://wonderfultruth.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/wh

God bless.

Sarah
Sarah

Great interpretation. But I need to point one fact from movies and music business: what is happening with the Feminine concept?

Suddenly and everywhere, we see how the stars embodies (maybe forced to?) an idea of Feminine that consists in very powerfull, very sexual, dangeorus… and darkness. Like occult ideas as the W***e of Babalon (or Scarlet Woman). See in this site another posts (for example, about Beyoncé). And this is underline also all over Black Swan: women need to be a sexy piece of meat for success. To be a simple object for men lust, so be under control.

Anyway this comment is not for feminist purpose, but to remember the readers that women has nothing to do on higher levels inside the occult and secret societies. Several occultist authors argue that women specifically are there to turns into a kind of sacred prostitute.

This is what we are seeing more often in music videos and films.

I am empty obedient
I am empty obedient

Yes I agree Sarah! And in an interview with Aronofsky he referred to this role (Nina) as a strong woman role. WTF?! There are no strong women (or men) in Hollywood. Only victims or maniacs, a dish for men to eat or man eaters themselves, wise cracking buffoons or machine gun toting psychopaths….. But most people today can't see it for what it is because: A: they have never seen a film which wasn't a totally warped version of reality B: the indoctrination has been going on for o many decades now that society is beginning to reflect these insane stereotypes. People are actually acting like characters out of Sex and the City or Friends or Independence Day or Monsters Inc or some rapper or pop diva. And in many ways middle class, educated audiences are the worst! They could figure this all out but they choose to act dumb instead. They choose to self-lobotomize by accepting decades' worth of pseudo intellectual post modernism. According to post modernism everything is supposedly meaningless, everything is ironic, everything is only what you make of it – how you interpret it … nothing really matters …..and without meaning or relative worth (because everything… Read more »

Cardillac
Cardillac

Hi Vigilant,

thank you for posting this-

and thank you so very much for your tremendous website, mind-boggling insights and your courage-

you might want to tackle the film "Burlesque" as your next "victim"- alone the placard for the film reeks of Illuminati influence (haven't seen the film but the placard was enough to turn me off)

again, thank you so much for your website and insights

Lola Jones
Lola Jones

Fabulous post, Vig!!!

What a great parallel you draw to people like Lady Gaga and the Beyonce/Sasha Fierce divide. The images are eerily similar. It absolutely appears as though the director has created an undeniably symbolic and powerful work, ripe with alchemical interpretation.

Your deconstruction of the themes is fascinating. The message of so many spiritual paths seems to include the message: "Unleash your inner darkness, and become perfect, become harmonious." Yet dark forces unleashed more often destroy than harmonize. Still, the idea of synthesis will eternally appeal to the human mind, constantly seeking the integration of our many selves, the good and the bad, etc., in the hopes that it will finally hush our demons. Ironically, the line between acknowledging inner darkness and inviting outer darkness in is a fine one; and often, it seems, if anything, to turn up the voices of said demons, whether they be symbolic or literal.

Thanks for keeping us on our toes!

Readers who like Vigilant Citizen might also like my blog for outside-the-box thinkers:

PARALLEX: Exploring The Architecture of Human Perception

http://www.taicarmen.wordpress.com

Be well!!!

Tai

Not Blind
Not Blind

Could it be that the main subject being communicated is that one has to die at the top of their game to achieve immortality? It's as if they're telling people that they aren't anything if they aren't willing to die for everyone's viewing enjoyment. It's so much cooler to die at the top than fade away as a has-been. People must be brainwashed to believe that snuffing out a brightly burning candle is more respected than basking in the light of your life whether you're still in the game or not. What a pity.

buttaflyytulsa
buttaflyytulsa

I can agree to that 😉

camille
camille

yup, i always find it suspicious when i hear lady gaga exclaim, "i'd rather die on stage than walk off because i was going to pass out" — these performers are totally okay with sacrificing their health and their life for having tasted the fame.

Megan
Megan

I am going to watch the rest of this movie in a way I am sort of scared but excited to see what will happen. This is like Jennifer’s Body and Single White Female.

Lourdes
Lourdes

This analysis is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Miranda
Miranda

I know this will sound nuts. I just saw this film for the first time. It was recommended for me in my film class, and I watched it while there is a storm called ‘Lucifer’ raging outside of my window. Everything in this article is true, but it isn’t as literal as you might think. There is a spirit in charge of the entertainment industry, to me he called himself Merlin. In the film he’s represented as the male handler. The film represents a pattern, how he breaks psyches so that he can tap into their creativity. I know no one will believe me, but I’m being groomed to be a writer and am being forced into the industry. I have lost everyone in my life, been sadistically betrayed (her name was even Lily) have been brought to the brink of suicide and madness over and over. Creating a creative person has become a refined science and art. Only, not everyone survives the process. I don’t know why I’m telling you this, maybe it doesn’t matter.

Muscade
Muscade

I don't think she dies at the end, she goes insane. She wants control but lost it. Throughout the film she hallucinates, we have to find out what is real and what is not. This film is a masterpiece.

Amy
Amy

Another interesting fact Brittany Murphy before her death (r.i.p) was going to do a screen test for black swan and it would have been a huge role for her that would have show cased her versatility in the acting world also shes an actress who is featured on this site and had a very strange death at age 32 near her final days a lot of controversy was surrounding her about anorexia and drug use and prescription drug use much in the way Marilyn Monroe was surrounded by bad press before her death both were at a down point before death and Marilyn was going to be doing more dramatic roles for her show virility. another thing is both deaths do have a lot of controversy surrounding and are both in way unexplainable as to what actually happened both were known as beautiful and talented both had bubbly and likable personalities. Saying this they were both different as in Munroe's behavior was exaggerated and very strange near the end of her life and she was much more famous and known worldly as a sex symbol

movie-buff
movie-buff

This was a very good article. I wonder if the director himself is creating this film because he is opposed to the dark forces at work. His pervious film Requim for a Dream seem to be an artistic reaction against destructive force of drugs. Also I liked Pi and The Fountain although I'm not sure I understand all themeanings in them. I just wanted to note that the new disney film The Lone Ranger was anti-Christian, anti-family, and the good people were prostitutes and the bad people were capitalists.

ChildofIsis
ChildofIsis

I was so disappointed with this film when my mother took me to see it. I felt Natlie Portman should have gotten an Oscar for playing Ann Bolyen in the film The Other Boylen girl- now that was an oscar worthy performance. I mean she goes freaking crazy at the end of this film and kills herself;Hollywood needs some fresh ideas.

Drew Down
Drew Down

She hurt her ribs and had to sell her trailer to get medic during filming. She was on Letterman talking about it last year and she looked like she was gonna cry. Letterman was obviously disturbed to. Also, I noticed when she came on he said something to her. From her facial expression it wasnt pleasant. Maybe a trigger?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0vuhojnROQ&fe

Trace
Trace

The comparisons to "The Wrestler" are unfair. Despite the same director, the protagonist in the Wrestler, while having his faults, had a good heart and attempted to correct his faults.

Jen
Jen

Natalie Portman winning the Best Actress Academy Award could be symbolic of her rise to the dark side, reprogrammed, dehumanized and greatly awarded for doing so. She has often said that it was hard for her to get out of character. Same circumstance of Heath Ledger as the joker. This movie gave me nightmares for a few days and movies never do that to me!

severalminds
severalminds

there are many talented people around the world and they are searched, loved by the public which really understand and appreciate the art – the real art i mean…for example Lili Marlene a very talented girl which creates a wonderful music of wonderful melody and deep significant lyrics, she is not voulgar, i never saw her wearing strange staff or doing idiot behaviour just to get fame. She is simple, she is really talented and she is loved by milions of fans. You never see her videos on mtv or on radio, but she is loved and searched everywhere anyway! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohu231K-jHs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf-UsRFWsi0 or see Dido also very beautiful, talented artist which is not advertised or promoted by evil indistry, she is also simple, not voulgar, makes wonderful music (not the evil music which rapes the ears and soul of people, the evil music has no meaning, no melody, it is just a rubbish in few words). here is something from Dido, really beautiful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-fWDrZSiZs those real talents are not so famous, cause they r not sold to evil industry which unfortunately in nowadays rule over the show business…however the evil industry servants hunt the talented people in order to slave… Read more »

Angela
Angela

I love VC and I often agree with you but definitely not here on Black Swan. You're reaching far

thomas
thomas

she's f*****g crazy…a cray cray i tell ya a cray cray

liza
liza

This is controversial and borderline inapporpriate, but I read your article on "Rosemary's Baby" before this one. What do you think of Natalie Portman's pregnancy shortly after the release of the movie and leading into the award ceremonies? This was by far her most important role to date, the peak of her career, and in the middle of it all she gets knocked up and engaged. Just a thought.

Harlequin Nameless
Harlequin Nameless

It's just like Joker said: "They need you right now. When they don't, they'll cast you out…like a leper." With Heath, with Michael, and God knows what will happen in the future. We're not the monsters…we're just ahead of the curve.

Ryan Martinez
Ryan Martinez

Brilliant artilce VC. I have personally subscribed myself to your articles for about a half year now. You offer a very unique perspective & quality information to sustain your argument. I have one question, anyone who can answer this, may answer this (But i would prefer VC of course haha)

I understand the whole idea of Mind Control, and anarch programming. I even feel this same concept applies to abusive relationships around the Nation (Father/son, mother/daughter, boyfriend/girlfriend etc…) But my question is…Why would these people (The creators of Black Swan) want to display these sorts of things to the public, would they not expect someone like yourself to decode their message for its darker occultic meaning? Why are they showing this to us?

jennifer
jennifer

lily's tattoo on her back are not wings… theyre calla lillies..

Deva_style
Deva_style

this article/responses were great but i have one question…did anyone stop to think that maybe her mom was DEAD the whole time?

ardalys
ardalys

I dont feel as if the the black swan in the third poster had a Phallic beak just saying. this article was really good esspecially after i watched the movie

hi-frequency
hi-frequency

I would like to add.. for those who have seen the movie: the scene when "lily" & Nina are at the club, and nina has taken the ecstasy pill, they go to dance. During this dance sequence there are lots of thins happening, mainly red, green, and pink lights flashing distorted and disturbing scenes (mostly very sexual). If you pause to watch the scenes in the flashing lights you will see them all. You will see a woman with wings, a halo, surrounded by butterfly silhouettes in a pink n white light. Ive only seen this movie once, but i remember everything about that flash. I make conscious effort to not watch anything flashing lights at me from my tv or computer screen(… S**T Kanyes video for " flashing lights"comes with at disclaimer!). This is so blatant in every way and screams MKULTRA. Then once all teh triggering red and green lights stop, where do we find nina?.. in a bathroom either starting or finishing having sex with a random guy which she "snaps" out of and runs to the car where lily awaits her. Ive told lots of my friends don't filthy their subconscious with the black swan rubberish..… Read more »

Thankful
Thankful

I just watched this and thought it was brilliant. Thankfully i was able to recognize a lot of the symbolism thanks to the knowledge acquired through this and other sites. It really took it to a whole new level

K
K

During rehearsal scenes, Nina's partner has his left calf exposed, while Nina is covering her left leg with a leg warmer. Her left leg only. Also, there are scenes in which male dancers have their left breast exposed from rips and tears in their shirts.

I didn't know what these things meant until today when I found this article and began to read about the subject. To me this is an allusion to the Masonic initiation ritual referenced

here with the Artist Pink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaV8-r1E34I&fe

Was this supposed to establish that the other dancers were initiates, while her covered leg reinforced that she was not ?

I only watched the movie once and returned it. So any insights would be appreciated.

Richie
Richie

Duality and the struggle within…live first in light, then unleash the diametrical opposite to be "enlightened" and to be "perfect", only to be consumed in destruction…this theme runs all through the centuries of humanity, from the first chapters of Genesis set in the Garden of Eden, to the inner conflict of Anakin Skywalker, the undercurrent being that human frailty is incapable of handling its dark side and as such, the dark side, with all its seductions, is best (for the individual?) left untouched.

A secondary theme may be a throw at humanity, as the audience, who applauds perfection and beauty and performance most especially when the ultimate sacrifice is involved…as long as another person does the sacrificing. The audience impact of seeing a rocket consume itself in an explosion of awesome glory easily comes to mind.

Daniel
Daniel

The movie was fantastic and all the explanation I needed knowing all the symbols beforehand! VC you should do an article on the late R&B superstar Aaliyah and her influence today, whose story was similar to Brandon Lee and Heath Ledger, died after playing a highly demonic, symbolic role.

Golightly
Golightly

After WWII the Australian government sent Winston Churchill a pair of black swans for the lake at his home Chartwell. We were told it was a symbol of gratitude for his contribution to the Allies victory.

Many years later I can now see it as an occult celebration of their sacrificed soldiers.

Mauro
Mauro

at 1:04:11-1:04:14 i think, the scene where Lily and Nina are under the influence of ecstasy, for not even a second, butterflies are flashed while the lights are going on and off.

Abdul Rahman
Abdul Rahman

In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

Salam, I've only got one question to ask. How do we destroy the "Black Swan" or the dark alter-ego that resides in a person's mind or body and is it possible for a person to fight that alter-ego? I would appreciate it if someone can reply to this question as I really would like to know and it will be great for others to know as well. Thanks.

May peace be upon you all.

“Avoid cruelty and injustice for, on the Day of Judgment, the same will turn into several darknesses; and guard yourselves against miserliness; for this has ruined nations who lived before you.” – The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of God be upon him).

Bootiez
Bootiez

You can't fight your Black Swan. It may be Evil, but it's also Freedom.

soulhustle
soulhustle

Only through Christ who defeated death through His Ressurection. So, any person who has productive faith in Him can be resurrected and is not anymore a slave to 'black swans', unless he/she chooses that again. All people essentially will be resurrected in their new eternal bodies on the day Christ returns to judge the 'living and the dead'. For some it will be a day of joy, for others even His presence will be a torture, because it will expose everything ungodly each person has ever said and done. We all have a chance but not all take it and not all who take it, take it seriously.

K

Leila
Leila

Hi everyone! I just came back to tell you all that I noticed that the name of her “enemy“ is Lily. And Lily is a name that is involved in the dark side of woman like Eva. I think is pretty simbolic. And other simbolism I noticed last time I saw the film was when Thomas and Nina are in his house, on the wall of the room is a weird draw which looks like a Baphomet.

Tabeer
Tabeer

Wow, man you think so deep, noticing each and every detail in the movie and interpreting it accurately. Takes great intellect.

stacy-nyc
stacy-nyc

i wasn't able to post on the "ugly side of entertainment industry" article – so im posting here, which kind of has to do with the whole alter ego theme you speak about a lot- this quick article of courtney love reminded me of this same theme again, also any clue on those new flower tattoos she recently got? meaning-wise? – p.s. she is so loaded with money that she is so bored and has nothing to do with herself besides shop and spend it, and get doped up of course, that she is trying to get her own reality show and has this stupid blog of herself and her outfits that she changes ever so often. she shops and takes pics of her new clothes. fun. check out the article: Courtney Love is dead,” Courtney Love told NME a British magazine. I can imagine the reporters confusion until she said “We’ve all decided we don’t like her anymore. We love her when she goes onstage, but I don’t need her in the rest of my life.” Does that mean no more fashion fist fights, tweets about hate f*****g, facebook rants against her daughter…what on earth will be left? We’ll… Read more »

Bethany
Bethany

I saw this film and found it so disturbing yet so interesting.

I do not think it was promoting mind control, but doing the complete opposite. I believe that it was trying to explain what the entertainment industry can do to someone and how awful the consequences can be because surely people don't walk out from seeing that film and think 'I wish I was a ballet dancer.'

But hey, that's just my opinion 🙂

WeLiveInASadWorld
WeLiveInASadWorld

and more, the history of Nina and Nina's mother it's almost the same of Britney's history.

Britney's mother pulled her on entertainment industry.

WeLiveInASadWorld
WeLiveInASadWorld

VC, you MUST see Britney's new video, Hold It Against Me, the story between Black Swan and Hold It Against Me it's almost the same!

stacy-nyc
stacy-nyc

yup. it has flashbacks of the old britney

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

Just because Natalie Portman, Lady Gaga and other successful artists are blessed for everything they have doesn't mean they are anti-Christ or belong to an occult. They work hard for their career and success with their talents and gifts God has blessed them. It is their choice what to do with their talents and gifts they have. We don't actually know them personally so we must not judge and validate them and spread the illusion about them being the devils or the devil's followers and plant fear and lies in every person's mind in this world. It's our choice to listen to their music and watch their videos and movies. It's on us, not them. We must stop blaming them and others and start working on ourselves. We must spend our time and energy on getting ourselves conscious. Vigilant Citizen, I respect your choice and work. I also hope people will open up their mind and heart and be conscious.

severalminds
severalminds

i don't see any hardworking in these persons that you note here and they are not talented at all…they are product of lots of marketing and advertising. That's all…probably you have no idea about real hardworking talented people, about real culture and art…

Napolitana
Napolitana

LightingRod Stevie, that's the most rational explanation yet. Kudos to you 😉

carolina
carolina

I went to see the movie after i read this interpretation. I think it wasn't any hallucinations well they were but i think it was the reflexion in her mind of the broken mind…like vigilant says the slaves mind it like fragmented mirrors.

At the end i think ninas is imagining her death but is the process they put her through enable to really feel the death as a white swan…but i think she doesnt died i think mentally the white swan died but for the performance…i mean she couldnt dance all the last act while bledding and no one noticing it.

Carlos
Carlos

And let's not forget how Sandra Bullock was publicly humiliated with her cheating husband just a few days after she won the Oscar for Best Actress. Interesting how the rumours started spreading around those days after her husband was a cheating a*****e for who knows how long. What a sick sick industry.

Heath – 2008

Sandra – 2009

Natalie – 2010?

Carlos
Carlos

@Noah she won't die soon. If they wanted her dead she would already be dead just like Heath Ledger. I fear for her family and her unborn baby cause as we all know they don't give you anything without taking something away from you. Take Jennifer Hudson for example: after she won the Oscar and the Grammy someone brutally murdered 3 members of her family. I sincerely wish Natalie the best and that somehow she manages to survive all of this with her family but I'm still concerned because she is after all the hottest actress in Hollywood right now.

Noah
Noah

Typical, Natalie Portman just won a best actress award for the Black swan today….

which mean she will die in just less than 4 years…this doesn't come out good…she will end up like heath and anna nicole….

LightningRod Stevie
LightningRod Stevie

I read your Occult interpretation and i will raise you my Utilitarian interpretation. :))

She has paranoid schizophrenia, hands down. Symptoms:

1.distorted perceptions

2.paranoid behavior and thinking

3.delusions of persecution (believing a friend or colleague is trying to get her)

4.delusions of bodily change

5.hallucinations, perceptual disturbances

6. auditory hallucinations (hearing laughter, sighs, talking mother's drawings)

7.sexual hallucinations

8.fearfulness, suspicion

9.anxiety, anger

She needs meds and therapy. Case closed. 🙂

MT
MT

Fascinating article! I saw the movie before reading this and it does seem like I missed a lot of symbolism in it. I was thinking as I was reading this, if Nina spinning multiple times and eventually hurting her toe had anything to do with her hypnosis. Quite a disturbing movie overall….what's even more disturbing is that it really does happen to some performers. Human psyche is quite scary isn't it….

Eowyn
Eowyn

"Looking Into the Abyss": on Heath Ledger's death and demonic possession
http://fundamentaloption.wordpress.com/2011/02/23

Aaron
Aaron

How do we know for certain that Nina dies at the end?

Could it be another fantasy?

Maybe this was her guilt conquering the black swan.

Maybe after her flawless performace, her mind figured that was enough, and severed ties with the black swan.

Or maybe this was her will to overpower the black swan (learn to control) this demon and unleash it at the appropriate times in the future.

Just food for thought. If there was evidence that she surely died, disregard.

I wasn't sure, it left me asking questions.

carolina
carolina

I went to see the movie after i read this interpretation. I think it wasn’t any hallucinations well they were but i think it was the reflexion in her mind of the broken mind…like vigilant says the slaves mind it like fragmented mirrors.

At the end i think ninas is imagining her death but is the process they put her through enable to really feel the death as a white swan…but i think she doesnt died i think mentally the white swan died but for the performance…i mean she couldnt dance all the last act while bledding and no one noticing it.

BlackSwan
BlackSwan

I saw the movie. It's so damn perfect. Twisted and sich and demented… Absolutely wonderul.

Czharina
Czharina

^Mike sounds mindcontrolled

Gadfly
Gadfly

Adam and Eve we're banished from the Garden of Eden due to eating from the Tree of Knowledge. I suppose I could see how Lucifer could be used to represent knowledge and freedom and could be appealing to people, even to me. If I'm not mistaken the Illumunati broke away from the Freemasons. Speculating on the reasons for this I would imagine that The Illumunati argued that man is god. That they should not only embrace the seeking of knowledge but should also shun the teachings of Jesus.

So the Freemasons split from the church because their stiffling of the knowledge seeking but still embraced the values of egalitarianism, equality, justice for the poor, solidarity, empathy, and altruism. The Illumunati similarly left the church to embrace the search for knowledge but unlike the Freemasons despised Jesus' morals and perverted them into the values of narcissism. inequality, contempt for the poor, misogyny, racism, apathy and selfishness.

Kwan
Kwan

What a sick movie. Couldn't even watch the whole thing and had to walk out because I felt sick to the stomach right until I walked out.

v
v

It would be useful having an interpretation of the song/video-clip "the show must go on" of Queen

dysgenic
dysgenic

Do you take requests? I would love to see you write a post on the movie The Game starring Michael Douglas and Sean Penn. Thanks.

I hate technology!
I hate technology!

go to this website about the game movie 1997, in2worlds.net mind control and triggering programs in movies, it talks about movie symbolism this website by carissa conti does a great job of breaking down that movie and other movies.

greg
greg

could anyone enlighten me a little on the links/similarities between the events of this movie and the actual Swan Lake written by Tchaikovsky? I'm not very familiar with the ballet or the music and mood of the ballet itself.

erik
erik

great post! i love reading your posts. A question I have is how can one educate others on these matters? you tell them but they think you're crazy!

luci
luci

ATTENTION !There's a cuban movie made in 1998 about a ballerina in a similar story, although she goes from bad to good here,she also was also chosen as the leading role of her ballet in this case Giselle , but she had to sacrifice an aspect of her badness in order to get it by promising god celibacy, (as she she was very promiscuous )however she breaks down during the process and while dhes dancing her instructor comments to another " Shes becoming Giselle through her own suffering, I think we are about to see something extraordinary " and then she symbolically dies at the end. Coincidence? Here's the description of the movie and other characters . Tittle :Life is to Whistle Three characters in present-day Havana must choose between clinging to their self-restricting beliefs, or getting rid of them to live more freely. Ballerina Mariana has promised God celibacy if she gets the role of "Giselle"; Social-worker Julia always faints after hearing a certain word;(note these are trigger words like freedom, sex, fear of the truth, double moral and in this movie it happens to a large portion of the population not just to her, signaling mind control at… Read more »

The people
The people

oh and on more thing ive been seeing these commercials talking about cash for gold you truly have to be an idiot to exchange Gold for paper.

The people
The people

MAn F*** ILLUMINATE if u had a choice to believe in the good or the evil why not believe in the good. in the end god almighty wins and most people sin already but think about how bad the punishment will be for those occult worshipers on judgement day. And all these political figures and also pop artist want power and believe the satan will give it to them But do u really think lucifer shares power???? so to the occult worshipers you think once u have braught these dark forces in the world there gonna have any use for you??? God promises eternal life in the after life to those who walk in the light but u wanna sell ur souls in this world for something like money. thats so sad. more power to the people who dont place a value on money.

Kerrie Waldron
Kerrie Waldron

Not my interpretation but persuasively argued …..Nina's mother sexually abused her from childhood.

Hence Nina's Dissociative Disorder (self mutilation, bulimia,infantilisation,sexual dysfunction,Trying to exclude her mother from her room,etc etc)……….and the clincher…….Lily has sex with Nina..except……..Lily wasn't really there (as she says in a later scene)…….so WHO did Nina have sex with when only her mother and she were there?……………

http://blip.tv/file/4616227?filename=Stefbot-Blac

MB
MB

VC, I'm really impressed with your analysis.

When I saw the title of this article, I said to myself, "Well, what is VC about to tell us again about Black Swan? The controversy is already clear between those for and those against the topic developped in the movie, i.e. the exploitation in show business. What else occult has he found in it?". But, hey, you did it again; you blew my mind. I guess I won't watch that movie with the same eyes anymore.

I am convinced you are a great analyst of these things. Great job.

sfgirl
sfgirl

Black Swan has deep meaning in the Discordian belief as well.

Belle
Belle

When Nina pushes her Mother out of the room in the scene before Nina passes out(it's the part where her legs go into the shape of a Swan's), through their screams her Mom says something like ''Do you see it?''.

mui mui shoes
mui mui shoes

Black Swan is based on the wonderful Russian ballet by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky who also composed Sleeping Beauty and The Nutcracker. His ballets are often based on old folktale, the ballet shares similarities to the story of The White Duck. A lot of these old stories like Sleeping Beauty, The Hansel and Gretel story, The little mermaid and Swan Lake were extremely dark stories and twisted, often told around the campfire or at bed time to scare the children, god knows why? Before I do reflect upon Black Swan, I just want to reflect on your comments, I am not sure about the illuminati presents in this film. I say this because if you were familiar with the ballet you would have got the symbolism within the film as it is very much like the play. Odette is the princess transformed into a swan by evil Von Rothbart. she has been transformed into a swan by day and can only regain her human form at night by the moon light. The only way for the spell to be broken is by the power of eternal love between Odette and a young man who will remain faithful to her, for if… Read more »

Belle
Belle

You're right about the fairytales-in the original version of Cinderella, one of the Step Sisters cuts off her toes and heel so she can fit her feet into the glass slipper. And Beauty & The Beast was originally about prostitution.

Cancerian
Cancerian

And in the scene where Nina comes back to find Lilly in her dressing room, as Lilly turns around and says ''How about I dance the Black Swan for you?'' her voice becomes disorted and she has become Nina's double, her dark side.

DR
DR

Wow, figured there were some background meanings in the movie just from the few promos/previews I saw, but didn't think it'd be this many! I wanted to see this movie and have been waiting, but now, I may not see it at all. I don't need any additional evil or negative images in my brain right now. We'll see how I feel once it hits DVD.

Hilary
Hilary

The problem with waiting until it comes out on DVD is the sound. The force of the music is half the movie; extremely visceral (sp?). Very intense psychological thriller; but I wouldn't call it a horror movie by any stretch. It is dark. But fascinating.

me
me

i have seen the movie and i think celebrities like beyonce, rihanna etc. went through this.

I don't know but at the end of the movie you hear the audience applauding but it soon sounds like people screaming in hell….it just reminds me of that.

pge1119
pge1119

did anyone notice after lily finished pleasuring her she said "sweet girl," a term of endearment nina's mother used in reference to her throughout the film. what's that about??

Emery
Emery

When I saw the commercial for this, immediately I knew I had to read the article before seeing the film. Now I can see it and bore my friends with my psychoanalyzations. 😀

Sheena
Sheena

Jesus Christ, I watched the club scene clip on youtube double clicking the pause thing to see most frames and got so creeped out! Eyes, swan like faces and at one point she was dancing with the guy that turned her into a swan! There were all these weird deformed faces around Nina that just watched her. Creepiest damn thing ever.

I went to watch the film yesterday with my friends for my birthday because this article just excited me way too much XD

The film is spectacular to be honest but also damned eerie. The final act of the ballet where she dances the Black Swan was awesome but also scary!

Smiley Centra
Smiley Centra

Not to mention that Angel statue that Nina stared at earlier in the movie around 0:09

You can also see the Red eyes all through 0:12 to 0:14, and the creepiest thing is that they seem to be kind of watching Nina and Lilly. The guy she's dancing with turns into Rothbart at some point, and there's also some other deformed creepy stuff near the end that I can't make out.

Banana
Banana

The rave scene is so creepy. I downloaded the clip off youtube and slowed it down…there is no end of weird and out-of-place stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE_cYU4Z3s0&fe… At 0:26 you see another Nina's face come up from behind her shoulder while that weird voice is calling her name. 0:35 Butterfly wallpaper behind Nina and Lilly(the same Butterflies that were on Nina's sheets) and a creepy face on the right. 0:40 There are two Nina's, and two really creepy faces in the second frame. One is that Swan guy and the other is a smooth ghostly face. 0:42 A full Moon shape flashes on the screen. 0:51 Nina and Lilly hug another Nina standing on the right. 0:23 The camera shows her with the Black Swan makeup and red eyes. You have to pause it extra quick to see it though. 0:48 For a split second, and literally ONLY a split second(I only saw it once when I paused at exactly the right time) there are the Black Swan eyes close up in the bottom corner. It really freaked me out when I saw that one. 0:24 When the green light flashes, there is yet ANOTHER Nina standing right next to her with… Read more »

Just Being Me
Just Being Me

I just downloaded that video and slowed it down on VLC and I am actually scared out of my mind. During one of the pink flashes Rothbart(that guy who turned Odette into a Swan) can be seen dancing with or around Nina, giant black feather coat and all. There's all sorts of weird stuff in the background, like Crows and Horns and stuff. Then there's the thing with the eyes. I literally felt like they were staring right at me. I actually had to close it down because I was getting too creeped out.

Alexa
Alexa

I didn't understand the scene when Nina's mother came well dressed in her bedroom and asked her daughter "Are you ready for me?" or something like that. what is this supposed to mean?

The Mikado
The Mikado

The figure of the mother in this movie is very oppressive and bigot. Nina working so hard, to gain the perfection, because of her mother.

Yahweh
Yahweh

Take some psilocybin and ask yourself:

"What CAN God be?"

It can be the power of love/dependency between atoms and electrons making you physical.

It can be the power of love/dependency between the Sun and Mother Earth creating all life.

And it is.

Even according to Yeshua himself, which is what the Luciferians know but want the rest of us to not know, ever.

Check out the Essene Gospel of Peace.

Yeshua said that Christ could also mean clean. As in free from intestinal parasites causing all kinds of sickness. Which is what he called 'satan'.

And it all makes physiological sense. Otherwise I wouldn't even bother since I'm not religious.

And by the looks of things, neither was Yeshua! That is what makes my jaw drop.

Osiris’ body was cut into many pieces and scattered across the world. One piece they never found was his penis. Hence the phallic worship. Their “God” is a mix between Yahweh (God), Osiris (both the constellation AND Osiris, Isis and Horus, their son, with the all-seing eye of the illuminated through evil pineal gland) and Baal (‘satan in the belly’ or intestinal parasites).

The Essene Gospel of Peace

Steffany
Steffany

It was a really beautiful and great movie, but since Nina hallucinated so much during the film(I mean, she hallucinated an entire sex scene with Lilly) is it possible that the whole thing about her bleeding at the end might have been one of the illusions? For all we know, she was bleeding to death in her dressing room and hallucinated the entire last act.

Natalie Portman actually said that Nina lived in the end…

Hilary
Hilary

Finally! someone else with the same thought. I just saw the movie tonight and came home to check what people thought about her death. I wonder, is it possible that while dieing in her dressing room she hallucinated the entire Black Swan portion of the dance? I don't think so; but I equally don't see how she could have possibly danced the last scene with a hole in her abdomen.

Brittany
Brittany

Did anyone recognize a similar motif with Aaliyah's death shortly after completing Queen of the Damned?

The Wigan Joker
The Wigan Joker

As a stand up comedian, I know all about the duality and the dark place that creativity emanates from, I really enjoyed your article and also the film….

Jimmy x

Justin
Justin

Interesting that mind control slave "Winona Ryder" is in this movie. Her godfather was LSD guru (CIA asset/funded) Timothy Leary and her favorite book is " The Catcher in the Rye", a trigger book used for mind control.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winona_Ryder

ImNotGivingInfoToAMa
ImNotGivingInfoToAMa

I saw this film over the weekend and it was put together amazingly well though i had a huge panic attack during, my friends think it was caused by the film as some of the adverts for it start me off shaking. Does anyone have any info on this sort of thing? it is an area that i have had no chance to research. x

Susie
Susie

You also forgot to mention in the party/drug scene when the light flashed pink, her face was show as the black swan, make-up, red eyes and all.

Also during that scene a butterfly flashed on the top right-handed corner.

Just thought I should point that out.

Halo
Halo

This is a great article no doubt. To me, this is just like explanation of the unseen details in the movie. Maybe before everything else, its good to point out that the movie is really about everything explained here. Nothing too hidden.

Iona
Iona

This is what I got from the movie: It's about conflict between two parts of the self (the good girl who pleased her Mommy and then the sexual, wild girl). We all have these two sides within us, a Black Swan and a White Swan. Very few choose to embrace their Black Swan. Nina's mother clipping her fingernails was like symbolically clipping her wings and making remain the "sweet girl". A lot of it symbolized how society gives off oppression to people who don't conform to the musts of the media: Size 0 body, Sex appeal, the latest clothing trends, etc. It's all about whether you choose to conform to these expectations or put your foot down and say NO. This was shown in the movie also, when Nina's Mother tells her to take her shirt off so she can look at her skin, she simply replies ''No.'' The movie represented the White Swan, the meek and pure part, and the Black Swan, the dangerous, domineering part, battling it out with eachother. I also think the end was symbolic, Nina couldn't keep switching from the White Swan to the Black Swan all the time, so one of them had to… Read more »

MissAstrologer
MissAstrologer

Very true o: I never thought about that.

Lady Gaga's Telephone video might be about that too, with the whole idea of her escaping jail and stuff.

hfdkj hdsg
hfdkj hdsg

From seeing the film and now reading this article, in my opinion, I think the movie is fantastic and my theory is that Darren Aronofsky was purposely trying to put the symbolism into his film to show the dark side and the truth to go against the illuminati.

Don'tBeIgnorant
Don'tBeIgnorant

i'm dying to see this movie now, just becuase of this article 😀

XV22
XV22

I still don't understand some scenes:

– When her mother says "you are back to this disgusting habbit again", she is talking about Nina scratching her body. What does this mean?? why is it a habbit for Nina?

– When Beth in the hospital keeps stabbing herself with the knife

– When her mother ask her "Are you ready for me Nina?" when it's the time to sleep

Yurzi
Yurzi

The first symbolic movie poster of the movie Black Swan that is shown above is obviously an image of a vagina with a pubic mound, clitoris, shaft of clitoris and on the bottom is the buttocks. Im talking about the one that shows the black swan in the middle and the ballerina Nina dancing in the middle on a stage.

protocal son
protocal son

@HOLLYWOOD'SABORE-sorry i didn't realize you already touched on this subject about hilary and natalie i should have read all comments first lol.

protocal son
protocal son

@HOLLYWOOD'SABORE-google natalie portman and hillary clinton you will see natalie standing next to her and natalie has on a wrinkled white t-shirt and obviously no bra as if she just woke up and look at her facial expression.

protocal son
protocal son

this is natalie's initiation although she probably has been involved from younger age.

Unn
Unn

Weirdness worth noticing:

New films with Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis dealing with the exact same plot – casual sex… (now that they both were part of a film bringing them farther into their sex-kitten figures).

Check it out – "Friends With Benefits" and "No Strings Attatched" – means a lot probably…

Especially with Justin Timberlake and Ashton Kutcher beside them.

Balmori
Balmori

If you look closely at the Lesbian scene, those actually aren't wings. They are more like hands and the way she moves her back symbolizes a demon trying to come out.

Abbey 018
Abbey 018

Sorry if I'm repeating but anyone noticed it's a girl (Mila Kunis) who gives her the orgasm that «turns» her into the black swan ? Like when lady gaga said that her song alejandro was a odd to gay people…Anyway I'm 14 and when I started reading VC I was 13. When I found out about all thoses artists that I «adored», some more than my own God, I was devasted. It made me realize how addicted I was to music. I love music, I still do, music is my life but now I know what is real music and what isn't!

Thanks VC, great article as always!! 🙂

Donna
Donna

Miley Cyrus was like a black swan in her "Coming out" video. She wore black wings singing how evil she was and couldnt be changed.

OMICRON
OMICRON

Did natalie portman sell herself to darkside…? I would be careful if I was her, consider the fated consequences of some other actors who played such "black and white" roles.

Ralphster
Ralphster

I have never cared for her, always found her somewhat creepy, and her film roles are all creepy, involving suicide, mind control, assassination, married to Darth Vader, etc. I don't like her alpha girl vibe, it really puts me off. Another site similar to Vig posits that her family sold her out, that she is MK'ed. Who knows, if so, that is sad, but I don't like her and try to avoid her films. Her marriage and swift breeding with that French ballet dancer also seem creepy to me.

Pheonix33
Pheonix33

Speaking of Natalie Portman, let's look at the movie ''V for Vendetta'', more exactly, let's look at its logo.At first glance it is just a ''v'' in a circle, but, if you look at the beginning of the movie you'll probably notice a luminous half-circle penetrating the circle in one point, intersecting the v and then exiting the circle through another point.Now, this is a aiding symbol that helps you decript the main symbol.The V is the symbol for the capricorn head (the goat head), the semicircle draws it's ears and the circle delimitates them.It is the symbol of satanism. Now, just like christians have their Ten Commandments to follow and the Seven Deadly Sins to avoid, satanists have their own laws.They were written by Anton LaVey in a chart named ''The 9 Satanic Sins, 9 Satanic Statements & 11 Satanic Rules of the Earth''.P.S.:LaVey had military personel as members of his church: Marcelo Motta,Michael A. Aquino.You'll see where i'm getting at in the next lines. One of the Satanic statements:Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek! One of the Satanic Sins:Solipsism (it's opposing idea is embraced by satanists:"Do unto others as they do onto you!'') One of… Read more »

Andrew
Andrew

What happened to the post on all the dead animals found across the globe? Says it's been removed.

Hollywood's A B
Hollywood's A B

Afterthought: Cathy O'Brien states in her videos and in her books that she was "ordered" to have sex with both Hillary and Bill Clinton. Both were exceedingly abusive to Cathy and her daughter Kelly (also MKUltra programmed "sex slaves" for the rich and powerful). O'Brien writes about how disgusting both of them were.

Here's something else to ponder: Natalie Wood was mysteriously killed while "boating". Apparently she fell into to water (drunk) and drowned. This is highly suspect because Natalie Wood had often talked about how terrified she was of water – that she had a phobia of drowning. Who is Natalie Portman named after? Natalie Wood was clearly another Hollywood "kitten" as was her famous husband, Robert Wagner.

Hollywood's A B
Hollywood's A B

Cathy O’Brien’s “owner” was Senator Robert Byrd for most of her life until she was “rescued” by her ex-CIA hubby Mark. One wonders which Senator or, excuse me, Ex-Senator is Natalie’s owner.

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Just in case you didn't "GET" what's going on in the above photo of Hillary Clinton and Natalie Portman, here's another CLUE — http://www.pianojazz.com/images/hillaryNatalie2.j… (of course, Natalie was much younger in this photo – how odd for Hillary to have such a YOUNG "admirer" around her for so long. In fact, this picture of Natalie was BEFORE she was "famous".

Hollywood's A B
Hollywood's A B

Speaking of Kabbalistic Kittens — have a gander at this: http://pop.wizbangblog.com/images/2006/04/portman

Is it me or does anyone else think that perhaps Hillary's assistant should have straightened her name tag prior to the photo shot? Perhaps Natalie should have been told to put on a bra? It is difficult to tell which Kitten is under more mind control: Hillary or Natalie?

If you're able to enlarge this photo, you'll notice some very disturbing images in the painting behind them too. Quite disturbing indeed.

Cathy O'Brien's "owner" was Senator Robert Byrd for most of her life until she was "rescued" by her ex-CIA hubby Mark. One wonders which Senator or, excuse me, Ex-Senator is Natalie's owner.

Kia
Kia

Check out http://exministries.com/

The truth behind rock and roll and hip hop videos re: the death of Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain

b4urun
b4urun

And then there's the in-your-face "Case 39" with Renée Zellweger — nothing subtle with this film.

b4urun
b4urun

It appeares hollywood is outdoing itself by bringing out all of their 'heavy hitters' to shove their occultic crap in the public's face. It's almost as if these 'actors' are being told it's their time to pay-up. Jollie, Pitt, Depp (has been doing so for some time now), Mat Damon (has been with the Jason Borne films as well as his and Affleck's 'Good Will Hunting' film) — even the title of that one isn't subtle to most everyone with half a brain today. Tom Cruse and Nicole Kidman's 'Eyes Wide Shut', Kidman in "Stepford Wives" and now Clooney's "The American" where he IS "Mr. Butterfly" complete with his character's fascination with Monarchs and a Monarch tattoo between his "assassin's" shoulders. The mindless prostitute that seeks pleasure from her Monarch assassin lover. This film was an utter bore and yet it has received over-ratings from their controlled media "critics". It is also the same for "Black Swan" that will, somehow, while boring the life out of the viewing public, receive more awards than anything else. Hey, as long as "THEY'RE" entertained, what else matters eh? These films today are all about celebrating their own occultic lives while shoving it down… Read more »

b4urun
b4urun

Very good. Now, let's see what VC can do with Cloony's new movie, "The American". This film is so occultically layered it should be interesting to see just how many layers VC can peel-away. Likewise, VC can take-on Jollie's film, "Salt." And, of course, there's the in-you-face film "2012".

Calyn *the great*
Calyn *the great*

So I have a (pirated) DVD copy of Black Swan glaring at me right now.

It's been a week since I got it and I still haven't watched the movie.

Why? I was afraid the movie would get into me and I'd lose my mind as well. ',:-

(I'm lame like that) Better safe than sorry.

cold feet
cold feet

Is it true there are subliminals during the clubbing scene when the screen flashes different colors?

theODDISEE
theODDISEE

Study the art… become the art! this is your story as is all! the story of the underdog!

iforae
iforae

I felt so sick after seeing this movie and I didn't know why, now I do!

27moni
27moni

as much as i love this site, i find it annoying that some of us have such low tolerance for people's opinions. I like seeing open minded thoughts and points of views,(even the ones i don't understand). We sould be able to do that without being bashed or called sheep. Other than that,loved the post

antonie
antonie

what about janelle monae? that's interesting

gabrielle
gabrielle

love it knew that movie was evil

Alejandro Ivá
Alejandro Ivá

that s**t about the "great alchemy"seems like something pretty f****d up to me, its true, to reach illumination, you need to understand darkness and light, this movie, and the masons version only understands the dark…. and to understand both, you most endure the so called "path of pain" wich very little masons if there is any, have the guts to take. Pussies…

notarobot
notarobot

hey, didn't read all the comments, so sorry if this has already been said. In the scene where Nina goes into Thomas' office and he kisses her, there is a rorschach-style painting on the wall behind him, which to me, looks very much like Bahomet. Great movie though!

Rosario
Rosario

I have not been famous, but when I was still a girl, I wanted to be a ballerina of classic dance, because I liked more than the twist of the epoch, and also I wanted to sing and to tell wonderful all that that there was inside me and to transmit it, as a form of spiritual evolution, it was something wonderful inside me that I wanted to share. When I saw the reaction of some nearby relatives, and I thought about depth on what it goes after her a famous person, I decided to forget this facet, although I kept on dancing and singing the rest of my life, especially dancing, in the discotheque or doing the tasks of the house. In the end, it turned out that I was famous, although I did not know it, at least, in one of the forms, and that it ended up by giving as result a conflict in my life, but also it cleared many unknowns of my life. I gave very much of me himself, to Michael Jackson, I changed Michael's world, but we were not alone in the world, and as he was watched, I also it was, and… Read more »

superninja
superninja

Good analysis. I had been avoiding this movie because of reviews and friends' commentaries, but now I am curious to see it for this portrayal. I feel Aronofsky's movies are always about these kinds of themes. The Beyonce/Sasha Fierce duality also came to mind.

I think it would be worthwhile to analyse Ledgers' decline in the Joker role. The Joker's evolution (or you could say return to his roots) in comic books became one of the most disturbing characters ever created for the medium.

Eric
Eric

This movie was amazing and I hope people can easily connect its plot with this meaning. I just came to the conclusion that "perfection kills". Many artists now-a-days are also obsessed with perfection and acclaim in their work and most of them would do anything to get this.

Ed
Ed

Nonetheless great article.

Ed
Ed

I don't understand how someone who has seen this movie could be swayed to join the "dark side". She ends up going crazy and killing herself. "Yes now I will serve satan because all of that seems awesome!".

Maybe people are just pathetic, or I'm just ahead of the game but if the intention of this film was to breed evil in the hearts of people who by nature are already sinners then they did a terrible job.

deszirae j
deszirae j

bravo! vc. good job once again as a million!

ugh
ugh

alright, you people are acting like scared sheep. instead of looking fo evry little detail to deside if its against you or not, and living your entire life in fear of if your doing what god wants, why dont you look at yourself, and what you are sacrificeing(your life). it isnt free will, if evry implulse you have must go through something of greater power before the decision is made. you look at the world and say "this is satins doing", but realize this, for a religion that claims to be pure love, you shure do contrbute alot of hatred to the world. you know somthing interesting? more cults have originated from cristianity than any other religion. you dont find it strange that the exact sayings you follow are being used to brainwash people?("follow the leader,you are nothing without him") you can live like what god says you are (he litterally compares humans to helplss lambs), or you can live YOUR life. would you rather be punihed for being free, or rewarded for not? i would rather burn for eturnity at the cost of freedome for whatever time i live, then rewarded for being owned for eturnity. i am no… Read more »

lia lazo
lia lazo

Wow ! very interesting . When nina was walking in white , and the other nina in black walking the opposite direction . Nina the one who was in white looks back and on the wall it says "Keep Out" just something to let you know.

Mimi
Mimi

http://entertainment.ca.msn.com/music/photos/gall

You guys should check this out. People are starting to become more aware.

About that link above, if you do see it.

Sometimes I think the Illuminati want us to find out about them or that they're just leading us into thinking all these things, so we keep ourselves busy investigating and putting the pieces together, while they could be plotting something huge, they probbaly all ready are, it's all part of their master plan.

Mila Kunis
Mila Kunis

You forget to mention that the reason Natalie Portman was used in the role is because the "Nat" in "Natalie" sounds just like "Gnat", thus referencing pestilence in the sense that insects such as gnats often feed off of dead carcasses. This essentially relates to Nina's gradual surrender to the dark power's of decay and death. Also, the "Port" in "Portman" represents ships sailing away into a new beginning, yet the "man" in "Portman" adds a dark streak of humanity to this image, thus symbolizing the deterioration of the Nina's soul as her internal "ships" begin to slowly sink into oblivion. If you even look closer in this film, you can see that NOTHING is a coincidence. Even the director's name, Darren Arnofsky is an acronym. If we look deeper into this, we can even realize that Obama was elected because of this film, even though this film came out afterwards. That's how powerful it is. Learn from it, my children, and thou shall see with awakened eyes.

Brian
Brian

Heeeeey, wassup, you know your mocking would be entirely justified if it weren't for the fact that the exact same symbolism can be seen all over the place. The fact that it is so obvious just makes you sound like a nutter – no offense! If sounds like you've never researched any of this before so I suggest you first spend 30 mins looking at the other articles on this website relating not just to dozens of music videos and movies but also to award ceremonies and buildings around the world as well as entire city street plans. Just like playing the piano, knitting or basketball it does take a while to get your head around if you come at it from a position of total ignorance. But you'll soon confirm for yourself that this kind of symbolism really is to be seen all around us. I mean it's not a 'theory', you can actually see it, you can watch the videos or movies and there it is, or visit those buildings and you can even study hundreds of books about the history of occult practices, secret societies, their symbolism and mind control. Even US presidents are on record admitting… Read more »

Everyone Will Bow- C
Everyone Will Bow- C

Even though I agree with you, do not attack her personally. It is not nice to call people fat, skinny, ugly, etc. It is always best for us to encourage one another to love who we are.

I believe Oprah actually sees herslf as a goddess, because a lot of people look up to her as so. Even though she has done some good, she also caused some misrepresentations.

stacy-nyc
stacy-nyc

ughhhhhhh another one

on a random note- The fat Oprah continues to buy stupid americans' love- and apparently also australians'- as she gives away 6,000 diamond necklaces to her australian audience today.. the last few days before the end of the show and the beginning of the NWO — oops i mean OWN network-

…and she chooses 9/09/11 as the date of the final show. Remind you of anything? Is her show's historical last day on an important level as what we remember on 9/11 every year?

Her future network will be used to promote new age religion.

Don't let Oprah brain wash you. Don't let her buy your love.

cm
cm

This is a picture of Natalie Portman at one of the movie's premier. Check out what her HAND BAG says on it…

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/tS3iIl0lRyF/The+Pr

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/tS3iIl0lRyF/The+Pr

Amanda
Amanda

IMO, this movie has NO satanic symbols. She had OCD, and Paranoid Schizophrenia- it's simple, the role of the Black Swan made her condition worse of course because she had added extra stress. I think this movie does give a real life insite on how once good celebrities, became a completely different person (Linsay Lohan, The Olson Twins, and Brittnay Spears)

ctator
ctator

The day is soon coming when turning your back won't be an option. Nothing stands between a man and his Maker!

Shazreen
Shazreen

Great article, VC.

keno
keno

thats an interesting perspective, i'd a never seen it that way. Wynona Ryder and Natalie Portman – now thats a pair. both seem to have the same confused sex-crazed nymphomaniasm identity crisis. Both are kind a cracked. Both have seem narcissic, child-like, obsessed with sex characteristics. Both entered movies as a child playing a silly cracked character. And both are jewish. This black swan concept is almost kind a relative in real life regarding these two and Portman is taking over as hollywood's new queen of the cracked identity-crisis types.

Thomas
Thomas

Re: # 128 Wow…just…wow !! That's the same baphomet logo that Kanye West was photographed wearing a few year. I wonder which designer is using this graphic for their clothes. If I had to guess I would say Alexander Mcqueen based on his openly satanic fashion shows. Re: Black Swan I reluctantly saw this movie earlier today (snuck in, didn't pay for it). This movie more than any other recent one (except for Imaginiarium of Dr. Parnassus) made me realize how much smarter I am at detecting symbolism since I started reading VC a year and a half ago. From the chilling opening scene (dancing with the demon) to the climactic death scene, there was so much crammed onto the screen it was like a 2-hour "On To The Next One." I even noticed some strange sound effects like heavy breathing and moaning during certain scenes. As usual VC hit most of the highlights i noticed and even some I didn't. I would also be interested in reading VC's take on one of my favorites from 2010, "Scott Pilgrim vs. The World." On teh suraface it's a highly entertaining live action comic book, but upon further viewing I noticed there… Read more »

Sagekat
Sagekat

Mrs Obama was wearing Alexander McQueen while the president of China was here.

Thomas
Thomas

I'm not willing to go as far as saying every celebrity that wears his clothes actually knows what he was up to before he killed himself (although Lady Gaga had to have been in on it). But having models walking a pentagram on the runway is just ridiculous !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnMb6faHdbQ

I'm also not sure Mcqueen made the bag she is carrying, but VC could do a whole series of articles just on the illuminati control of the fashion industry (ex. Thierry Mugler's designs for Beyonce's last tour). Coincidentally I was in Macy's earlier today and saw a T-shirt in the Rocawear section (Jay-Z's clothing line). There was a huge eye in a pyramid with other masonic type graphics, and at the bottom it said "Masters of the Craft." This is a photo of a similar shirt from his website. How many people are walking around wearing this and have not idea what it means ?????

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FZpxPLnjqs0/SULNWDXztvI

Raven Delasker
Raven Delasker

Great Article VC, i understand the illuminati's agenda is counterproductive but religion is not the answer, turning away from the media and towards the bible is like abandoning mind control version 2 in favor of mind control version 1! Enlightenment is within us, there is no external enemy.

rick
rick

An excellent film, Natalie Portman is a fine actress!

Everyone Will Bow- C
Everyone Will Bow- C

Vigilant, I have several questions regarding Jay Z. During his appearance on Oprah, he spoke very little. I also noticed this on his previous interview with her sometime last year. He is a man of few words. He wore an all black attire and she wore an all red attire. Were they giving a silent message at a high volume? He raps "Forever Young," but he is looking old.

1) What is Jay Z's book titled Decoded suppose to be about?

2) What does he mean by Decoded as oppose to how Oprah attempted to define it by reading

from his book?

3) What is the agenda behind Jay Z on Oprah? Why? Who is suppose to be?

4) What is the truth behind Jay Z and Kanye collaborating? "History was made when JAY-Z and

Kanye West released their first single H•A•M."

5) What do they mean by "Watch The Throne"?

Please assist, if you.

garble
garble

i think that if VC ever does such an expose on the Sound of Music i will lose my mind.

mike
mike

One of your best, Vigilant!

A real gem.

birdcat
birdcat

Lots of red, black and white…

One thing you glossed over:

Thomas chooses Nina for the role because when they kiss in his office she was wearing the “magical” lipstick she stole from Beth’s (the previous star) dressing room.

India G
India G

Great article. I was waiting on this also.

anna
anna

black swans… diana´s grave….. rituals…..

Children Reared by H
Children Reared by H

Black Swam Promo website

http://www.IJustWantToBePerfect.com/

kittypaw
kittypaw

The one eye symbolism is just too obvious in the intro. Even in the background, a faded one-eye of the “swan”.

jenna
jenna

I wanted to see this movie, but go figure it has occult symbolism. great analysis. great!!

danwithnoname
danwithnoname

i just realised looking at one of the black swan posters that the Pontiac logo is a large red beak like the rising swan (pheonix). any one else notice ?

kemit
kemit

another movie that just hit the internet is Frankie and Alice staring Halle Berry ( Halle was also nominated for best actress at the golden globes ). The movie's about a young woman with multiple personality disorder who struggles to remain her true self and not give in to her racist alter-personality. Another Trama Based Mind Control Actress. I also read the Halle produced the the movie,which is based on a true story. All of this overtness is called Revelation of The Method.

Mick
Mick

Another thing worth noting is Thomas's sexual interest in Nina. In the beginning of the movie she asks to be reconsidered in a private meeting with him. When he says no, she simply accepts his decision and is about to leave before he says "That's all? You're not going to try and change my mind?" and kisses her. All throughout the movie Nina finds herself in compromising situations with him. This is a not so subtle reference to the "casting couch" and other forms of degredation which shobiz hopefuls must do in order to get ahead in the business.

Watcher
Watcher

Really helpful, thank you. Any more thoughts on the director? Do you think he's exposing it all or is he showing off his involvement by articulating these signal pictures openly?

sofia
sofia

Listen to Lindsey Williams.

kemit
kemit

Excellent break down VC,you hit it right on the head. Did anyone notice the Lilly seemed to be in on it, like Thomas flew her out as an assistant programmer from S.F. to assist in the Nina/Black Swan Working.

thad
thad

NINa was also schezophrenic as well sooo

marx teh killuminati
marx teh killuminati

oh how wonderful, thank you for the new entry 🙂

erica
erica

Brilliant!

And of course, Natalie is receiving accolades for her role and up for many awards this season.

productofprocreation
productofprocreation

so ive been waiting for you to write about this movie since i saw.

i find it funny they chose natalie portman as the main character for this film, when she also played in V for Vendetta an excellent movie about martial law. pretty intense.

27moni
27moni

let's not forget the professional

Jenn Smith
Jenn Smith

This is all true. I have multiple personality disorder (D.I.D) and was programmed using trauma based mind control techniques. My father was my handler (satanic Freemason,p*******e) and inducted me from birth. Mirrors, sacrifices and horrible things can split a mind. Tazers are used also to interrupt the ability to form memories. I have been hospitalized for the past 10 years and am finally getting better… with the help of many doctors. This is true. It's part of the NWO agenda. Many people (like my father) were programmed themselves and are really dissociated and "asleep" just putting forth the evil agenda. I am awake but almost died many times. I advise people to believe the Monarch Programming…. I lived it. Believe it. Evil is strong but not as strong as the GOOD. GOOD always wins out in the end. Sorry suckers ; )

Everyone Will Bow- C
Everyone Will Bow- C

Jenn, I am so glad that you are able to tell your story. I pray that God continues to watch over you and send His Angels with flaming swords to fight your battles in Heaven. Continue to fight using your mind. You have a powerful mind. That is where God connects to you. Keep focus on Him. You already won the battle. God bless you.

I don't bi it.
I don't bi it.

Leave God out of your bullshit please! She is not interested.

TRUTHbeTOLD
TRUTHbeTOLD

Sorry, but God *IS* her answer and the best possible answer, for anyone and everyone. Just speakin' the truth.

Mel
Mel

check out this picture!!

is natalie with a bafometh purse! WTF!!!

http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/27121/

Road People
Road People

Well Nathalie Portman seems to be beaming right now, which is unusual after coming up with such a performance, to say the least. Any theories on why she hasn't shown any selfdestructive tendencies compared to, e.g; Heath Ledger? To be fair, she doesn't seem like the type who would let her mind be corrupted.

James Wilder
James Wilder

Why is that? Do you know her personally? Or is it because she has such a pure and sweet "look?" Don't be fooled by physical appearances.

Catty
Catty

Thank You SO MUCH!!!

I had sent an email to Vigilant back in Nov. or Dec. about this movie. I can't break it down like he/she does, but I just "smelled a rat" when I saw the poster for it. I don't look at anything the same anymore after reading this site and others similar to it. The other day I was in the mall, and was looking at posters in the windows/displays at Victoria's Secret. Low and behold, the models had that "one-eye-covered" crap goin' on…just go to a mall and see for yourself.

Sensiblehumanbeing
Sensiblehumanbeing

look.. im not complaining.. i guess everyone has the right to think whatever of they want of said movie.. but seeeriously? Havent you guys ever heard of symbolism in movies and literatures? They're helping tell a story not control your minds. plus Black Swan was an independent movie…. theres no way the evil mind-controlling studio execs had anything to do with all of that.

Isnt it possible that sometimes… sometimes… a movie is just a movie… a song is just a song?

Cynical Swan
Cynical Swan

'They’re helping tell a story not control your minds.' But telling a story IS a (mild) form of mind control. How can it not be? If you filmed a cinema (or TV) audience you'd see them all slip into a trance state. And their imagination, emotions, heart rate, and even degree of sexual arousal are being controlled by images on a screen and sound coming out of speakers. Definitely a form of mind control. Also don't forget advertising, advertisers wouldn't spend billions on adverts if they didn't mind control people into buying their products. Movies (moving pictures with sound) is a massively powerful medium …. which is why it is so heavily controlled! (and always has been). But no one is saying this film is 'robotically' mind controlling (programming) people in that sense. There are so many levels and degrees of mind control. MK Ultra/ Project Monarch trauma based mind control is the most extreme form of mind control where someone is literally programmed, and this film definitely refers to this through its symbolism – but that doesn't make this film is trying to program people in that way. However it does seem to be turning a very heavy duty… Read more »

DiZiLLuZioNed
DiZiLLuZioNed

Gray Pigeon, Blonde Pigeon, Daffy Duck, Bored Swan, Cynical Swan – Kudos to you my dear. Your succinct explanations, real life breakdowns, graspable examples, and straightforward analysis of life as we know it is truly remarkable. You have the uncanny ability to see the world from a different perspective. And as we both know, “your perception is your reality. ” To see the “big picture” as you mentioned in a previous post, is truly an underrated talent that few possess. In a world full of mindless, spirit-deprived zombie/worker bee/sheep/etc, stumbling across your posts is like a breath of fresh air. I would love to have a dialogue with you, pick your brain and maybe learn something new. What say you?

symbology
symbology

I'm reminded of a youtube vid about an advertising company that planted symbols along the path of two advertising execs on their way to their office. Then they were told to come up with a few ideas and write up a presentation. It turned out that they ended up using many of the same symbols that were strategically placed along their path.

TheyScared
TheyScared

Who said that the symbols were "controlling our minds"? Did you even read the article? It seems you're totally missing the point. The article states that the director of the movie (an insider) is commenting on the realities of show business through symbolism.

"Can't a movie just be a movie?" I don't even understand what youre trying to say. Are you implying that movies do not have a deeper meaning? That they cannot be profound allegories? That good directors do not obsessively think about the symbolism of each of their shots? You need to learn a lot about film making.

foolondahill
foolondahill

@sensiblehumanbeing

Bravo. Finally another person using rational thought. I agree with you completely.

Laura
Laura

"By following the White Rabbit, Alice went through the Looking Glass"

I just have to point out that Alice did NOT go through the looking glass after following the White Rabbit. She fell down the rabbit hole, and from then onwards, in both the book and the movies, she was in "Wonderland". It was in the second book, "Through the looking Glass and what Alice Found There", that she, completely on her own, imagined a world within the mirror, and as she did so the glass turned to liquid and she was able to slip through into the Looking Glass World (different from Wonderland, though the mad hatter is in both).

I understand the references to both mirrors and the significance of butterflies and such to symbolize monarch programming, however if you haven't read the original Alice in Wonderland books, please don't relate them to programming as i believe that they have a much deeper meaning than that.

Sagekat
Sagekat

Her diamond earring looks like an upside down star or baphomet in the poster where her face is cracked.

There is no real color except black, white and shades of red.

Sagekat
Sagekat

And I sit here pondering how everyone here basically is signed in under an "alternate personality". It's very creepy in a way.

Killuminati
Killuminati

Well, I guess its called trying to remain anonymous due to the fact nowadays we are being watch everywhere and anywhere. But to be honest with you, I dont think it will work as 'they' – goverment etc, can get our IP addresses and anything if they wish to investigate us. We are not safe even in our own homes.

iru
iru

Great article. I like the movie. It did show the stress of being in the entertainment business and I think it's pretty much in every business. We grow up in the world where money and success is such a big deal and parents do stress that on their children to be successful. I think it's best for everyone to live in equality and treat each other with love and respect and bears no harm to themselves or others.

I'm not sure if everyone here is a Christian or if this is a site for Christians. I would love to see other religions(Buddhism, Islam, etc.) or non-religious(Agnostic, Atheist, etc.) comment on this site too.

Will be subscribing this on my reader. 🙂 Thumbs up!

T
T

great article

Lucius
Lucius

Excellent analysis once again!

I'm pleased to say that I will NOT be watching this Hollywood trash.

SS

Syrus
Syrus

A worthy mention goes to actress Aaliyah Dana Haughton, who died mysteriously after starring in the Queen of the Damned.

jas
jas

didn't aaliyah die in a plane crash?

fiona
fiona

@RC you sound very ignorant! what are you doing on this blog if you don't know what is going on behind the scene, keep watching the movies and believe in what the medias tell you! such an idiot!

27moni
27moni

i noticed that ink blot on the wall in the movie. It looks a little like the figure on jay z's book. I'm suprised you did'nt mention it VC. But you basicly took the words out of my mouth concerning the movie. The black swan is basicly a good girl gone bad. Thanks for the post

Shanique
Shanique

YOU KNOW I AM ONE OF JEHOVAHS WITNESSES AND WE WERE ALWAYSE WARNED TO STAY AWAY FROM OCCULT ENTERTAINMENT, I HOWEVER DID NOT HAVE A CLEAR VIEW OF WHAT THE OCCULT ENTAILS. VC REALLY HELP ME IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE SIGNS ARE SO THAT I CAN KEEP MYSELF FROM THESE. ONE OF MY FAVOURATE SONG WAS SWEET DREAM BY BEYONCE, AND I WAS LITERLALLY SHOCKED WHEN I LEARN OF ITS OCCULT MEANING.

SuperNeutrality
SuperNeutrality

Shanique – me too. It's good that this kind of demonic rubbish is exposed for the filth that it is, but it also exhonerates Jehovah when he tells us to stay away from the occult. For everyone doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah, Deuteronomy says.

When VC says that there are plenty of examples of those who have dabbled or have been programmed & then chucked away, then experiencing either madness or death or some negativity, I'm afraid he wasn't joking.

VC – you did a very thorough job here in your analysis. It must take a lot out of you & I hope you counter this with something to cleanse you inside, spiritually. Excellent article.

Danielle
Danielle

It bothers me that some of you talk down to those of us who are Christians. How can you believe that there is satanic symbolism (and occult rituals) in movies like this but not believe in God? So your saying you believe in evil but not good? Makes no sense…How can you say "this is wrong" "they are trying to get us under mind control" ,etc but not believe in God? So your saying there are evils in this world, but you dont follow the "evils of the world" yet you dont believe in the good(news) aka jesus Christ? So basically your just as evil..?? No logic in that. Anyway ,great article Vigilant:)

God is Love, God is real,

Divine Swan
Divine Swan

You seem to be implying that in order to believe in good or be a moral person you must believe in God. I find this attitude a little disingenuous. I also think many people commenting here have a deep understanding of good and evil, and a profound connection with the sublime and spiritual side of life, but are just not interested in organized religions. And from a more intellectual standpoint, I think many people have looked into history and found that this bunch of evil criminals (illuminati etc) have managed to infiltrated virtually all organizations in the world to some extent or other. Examples include governments, media, banking, UN and also many of the world's organized religions. This is a big problem for any compartmentalized, vertically integrated, hierarchical system. I can't believe you are unaware of the crimes being exposed on an almost daily basis in all of the big institutions of the world, including organized religion. Also history is full of wars, conflicts, genocide, persecutions and horrendous crimes carried out by organized religions claiming to have 'God on their side'. And in addition to this, the perceived differences between the various religious beliefs and practices (or between a religious… Read more »

anna
anna

divine, TLDR! ok, no, seriously tho…. u cannot separate good and evil from god. i can understand it if u do not believe in god, but from my point of view is kinda childish NOT to believe in god. it feels like you´re living lucifer´s lie. and NOT to understand that these are all manifestations of the same entity, the deceiver, the liar, the ever changing and ever cunning lucifer, the master of darkness, of all that is unjust. again, i paste here that passage from the bible that explains to you why and how did satan obtained rulership over this world and those who do not believe in god. let me repeat thta, RULERSHIP OVER THE NON BELIEVERS to deceive them and to let em waste their energies over and over and over again, since the beginning of time…. Question: “How is Satan god of this world (2 Corinthians 4:4)?” Answer: The phrase “god of this world” (or “god of this age” [NKJV]) indicates that Satan is the major influence on the mind-set expressed by the ideals, opinions, goals, hopes and views of the majority of people. His areas of influence also encompass the world’s philosophies, education, and commerce.… Read more »

Laz
Laz

Two things.

1. if Hollywood really is grooming stars into Mind Controlled roles, and this is all a nefarious plot, explain the popularity and rise of Larry The CAble Guy. What sort of Illuminati influence can you detect in Delta Farce?

2. Remember the wise Robert Anton Wilson's "Law Of Fives"…"anything can be related back to the number five…depending on the ingenuity of the observer".

Black Swan
Black Swan

I don't know how this will sound, but the effect of reading the articles here have an opposite effect on me. Rather than be repelled by the movie of music or show, I am in fact further drawn to that media. After reading this, I suddenly had the urge to watch this :O

Also, as part of my work, there are opportunities for me to meet celebrities in our part of the world. After thinking long enough, I've realized they have all something in common when they are not on-air or facing a reporter: "backstage", they kinda looked like they had this glassy wide eye look, like they're not physically there – or maybe it could just be exhausted. But the moment they "step on stage", it seems like they are a different person and you feel a sort of electrical energy coming from them.

I dunno, maybe I'm suddenly just over thinking things

Bored Swan
Bored Swan

Of course you're drawn to it! Everyone is drawn to darkness (in the sense of mystery and magic – I don't mean 'evil'). It's all fascinating stuff – the human psyche, magic, hidden knowledge and symbolism and power and stuff! Don't you find it a bit odd that we are brought up (in the west) to view the world as simply made up of objects, with nothing more to life than surface appearance (including ourselves)? We are given (forced to accept) a 100% materialistic world, a sterile, predictable world completely devoid of all that mystery. Even our history is censored so that we are clueless of the mystery and magic that has permeated this world throughout the ages. For example the pyramids were built by slaves pulling blocks up a dirt ramp? Give me a break! Even top architects and construction boffins say we could not build the pyramids with today's knowledge or technology. All evidence of past great civilizations with different technologies and world views and even different consciousnesses has been censored (or attempts have been made to censor it). All sense of mystery has been removed from the minds of modern men! And it has been replaced with… Read more »

IseeIt
IseeIt

"It’s just like any other form of advertising – they advertise what you DO want (health, happiness, friends, mystery, magic) and use that desire to sell your the opposite (drugs, hamburgers, gadgets, stupid and twisted music and movies). It’s all about twisting our natural desires and common sense value systems until they are completely reversed."

You are so right! Like a Michelob beer commercial is marketed as good for you like you can take it to the gym while working out and drink it! Another marketing scheme I'm noticing on so many commercials now is that the voice-over/narrator reads a script given to them by the producer/writer/director that 'speaks to you' i.e. "You are a good person. You have a lot of friends. You need to buy this phone for all of your needs." As if they know who you are it's sickening!

Great work on the analogy! Thanks!

free soul
free soul

Thank you for the effort you put into the article everything you said makes absolute sense. As i was reading your words i just thought i am immunized to all of this i sure do watch TV, i go shopping and i like to stay trendy but i know one thing for sure i will never let them get into me they will never affect my soul because my soul is filled with something deeper and something more divine it is filled with the power of Islam and my ears are used to the soothing voice of Qura'n so no matter how much i listen to songs (in the car sometimes) i know that i will not be affected.

Please do not get me wrong i am not promoting Islam and not even trying to do that i am just spelling my thoughts out here.

Peace

jo
jo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c8ShN6y0nE

New video of illuminati in Indonesia

Lily
Lily

Oh my, that was really scary…The one-eye symbol is obvious and everything in that video.

kittypaw
kittypaw

This one is really filled with Illuminati symbolism.

jo
jo

and the creepy fact about this video is,

the BEAUTIFUL WOMAN in this video is actually male..

Sam
Sam

I will 😉

Bahrom
Bahrom

But I wonder, how come Brandon Lee died and Heath Ledger died during their filming of such dark characters, it's rarely that the female actress die when they do it. Something to ponder.

I don't bi it.
I don't bi it.

/ / L l Y/ H

Bahrom
Bahrom

It's no surprise Natalie Portman won best actress at the Golden Globe for this movie. She was chosen by them.

Sam
Sam

This is the perfect example of what I mean. A female fractured by what she reads and sees. Immediately she turns into a black swan.

kittypaw
kittypaw

The funniest part is that you really mean all the bs you just wrote! You just have proven my words, so I won't waste more time on you. Have a nice life!:-)

NJ
NJ

I wasn't really insterested in the film when I read its plot. Remember the article on that 9 year old girl murdered by a suspected MK ultra soldier? I kinda remembered something from an old episode of 'Capatin planet' where they go to the future and then save a little girl from a flash flood, the present villains are warned by the future villains ti murder that girl as she will turn to a future environmentalist when she grows up. That little girl who was murdered had a lot of potential as a politician despite being only nine. And the illuminati had to destroy her, she was a threat. Atleast, that's how I see it.

Also, has anyone listened to linkin parks album, a thousand suns? there are songs that are purely apocalyptic and anti governmental. And also a couple of them have clips from important poeple who changed their part of the world like martin luther, mario savio and that guy who made the atomic bomb.

NJ
NJ

Off topic, anyone watched the parody of the movie done by SNL? In the end he says something meaningful, once you turn black swan, you can't turn back … swan.

Sam
Sam

What this film represents to me is the fact that no female can truly embody the full nature of the eternal mirror, that which is perfection when it comes to the mind. That at each moment that she tries to achieve this perfection she dies from the result of her own fractured reality. This embodiment of perfection encompasses both perceived sides of what we see as duality, it is non-dual, which is unobtainable for the fact that it is so destructive within creation itself.

You see this alot also in music, the concept of good girl gone bad. The female can only ever play one role for she is but a puppet or fractured part of that which is the true mother of creation.

Thus the fractured mirror…she is imperfect. Just like in religion, the female was always seen as having been made of man, she might be seen as the prostitute or witch, the puppet or slave, the one always trying to live up to being seen as perfection through the eyes of man. There can only be one in creation that can embody true perfection.

kittypaw
kittypaw

On one side your misogynist comment is ridiculous, but on the other side if I knew you in person and your opinion about women, I would keep an eye on you, and show this comment to your Mommy. Guess you are a bloke who does not get women (or "good" women), and must channel your frustration in being a misogynist. I feel sorry for you, but I also know blokes like you are dangerous, because you sound like a complete psychopath (yeah I know this term is not in use anymore) who kills/rapes/tortures women or would be able to.

Blonde Pigeon (becau
Blonde Pigeon (becau

@Sam (quote) 'What this film represents to me is the fact that no female can truly embody the full nature of the eternal mirror, that which is perfection when it comes to the mind. That at each moment that she tries to achieve this perfection she dies from the result of her own fractured reality….' If this is what you think the *film* is depicting (which is what I think you meant) – rather than your own personal *beliefs* projected onto the film – then yes, I kind of agree (otherwise absolutely not!). And yes it is a widespread theme in mass entertainment culture. Women can be perfect lovers, perfect virgins, perfect accessories to men's schemes … but if they attempt to become perfect women – perfect beings – in their own right, on their terms, beyond the social order then they'd better watch out! (But the same can be said of the depiction of men in Hollywood and modern culture in general where they can only be heros by joining the army and blowing up some poor country and only achieve respect or pride by serving their governments etc etc…) In fact when you look at history there has… Read more »

IseeIt
IseeIt

Brilliant! Loved your comment!

Sam
Sam

The fact that most people are quick to judgement on others is the perfect reason why most of the information is left hidden from public eye. It takes an intelligent and understanding mind to fathom the concepts that are hidden without taking on the information personally and as a criticism. It think that there will never come a time that the public will be allowed to be aware of the true nature of what is really going on. And before you judge my comment… "Think" about this… If all information was to be taken on as a personal attack on an individuals right to his say freedoms then take a look at your own life and ask…do I really allow others to have their own personal ideals on their own life and how it is to be seen and experienced? The answer is no. No one allows another to live their life without having judgement and criticism on them…therefore… The truth will never be accepted for the fact that not one person would be able to step outside of their own bubble without the fear of others personally attacking their own concepts and beliefs. It is a drastic cycle that… Read more »

DetroitDraper
DetroitDraper

Great way to put it in perspective.

kittypaw
kittypaw

Well said.

Pheonix33
Pheonix33

As for Heath Ledger, he was The Fool (tarot card), the one that could be disposed of.In Dr. Parnassus,we see him hanging under the Black Friars Bridge (The Hang-Man – tarot card often associated with sacrifice by members of secret societies;an italian mobster was sacrificed under the same bridge, masonic style).

Pheonix33
Pheonix33

Remember the ''Crow'' make-up of the band KISS (Kings In Satanic Service)?

kittypaw
kittypaw

Had a feeling about this movie. What an amazing, to-the-point article.

Kiara
Kiara

VC, some of what you have touched on is interesting, but you fail to mention that BS is a story as old as time itself. It's really a coming-of-age story, a story of initiation, and anyone who's read any literature will attest to this. Like Milton's "Innocence to Experience", or Pere Goriot, and countless other tales, it is a story about growing up and that usually involves sexual maturity. From a literary point of view, these stories hardly ever end well, the shock of 'experience' being so overwhelming on the 'innocent' that we can only expect a sad ending. Aronofsky is saying what countless authors have said before him. That the road from innocent to experienced is a difficult one, especially if you are a complete innocent, as was the character of Nina. And experience usually begins with sexual encounter. All these stories of initiations are similar, if not the same. From the comments I gather not many readers of literature visit this page. From folktales, fairy tales to novels, and art cinema, it's always the same story of light and darkness, innocence and experience, good and wickedness, …in the end life is that – duality. What bothers me about… Read more »

ayu
ayu

Dear Vigilant Citizen,

I must say that the articles (from movie section only) about Metropolis, Jossie and the Pussycats, and Black Swan are brilliant! and i agree with your conclusion in Pan's Labyrinth. great job, VC! 🙂

I love the phraseology in those articles.

JustMe
JustMe

I absolutely LOVE this movie. But yeah, I did notice something weird going on with it :

ayu
ayu

the idea of confusion between reality and one's imagination frightens me. It does sound really bad to me.

Alexa
Alexa

Great article ,it makes sense and its so horrible to think that this is happening in real life with celebrities.

But why make a movie showing all this stuff ? The movie literally is telling me "dont go to dark side ,maybe is the easy way but its gonna end bad ".

I dont get why Hollywood (Illuminati) made a movie like this ,what they earn or achieve by putting all these symbols ,dark stories ,etc?

Is this the world u
Is this the world u

Up next for VC to do an article on: the movie BURLESQUE

jim
jim

to analyse the sad death heath ledger, you definitaly have to check out his last movie "cabinet of dr. parnassus". he died during making this movie, was in the movie first found hanging under a brigde like vatican bank manager calvi in london, who was propbaly murdered by masons. in the pockets of ledgers suit in the movie was found a brick, just like in the calvi case. and at the end of the movie, heath ledger finally dies, just like in reality shortly before. and beside all that, the movie is full of masonic and occult illuminati symbolism. a must watch for vigilent citizen!!!! so, maybe the deat of heath ledger is the best case, to analyse occult sacrifice. by the way, in the movie the alter ego of heath ledgers role was played by johnny depp, jude law and colin farell (if i remember right). as we know, at least johnny depp is also a possible candidat for mk monarch. it is also interesting, that ledger played in brokeback mountain a gay cowboy. this kind of gender mixup is also claimed by some people to be part of occult rituals. for instance said dave chappele on the ophra… Read more »

Everyone Will Bow- C
Everyone Will Bow- C

#89 said that we need a life. That may be true for me, since I have been in bed from a minor surgical procedure. I am just surrounded by my fabulous laptop, television, magazines, book and back to my laptop. However, he might need a life if he is just checking in on us. While watching the Golden Globe Awards, I had four revelations. First, it appears that all the Jew directors are either gay or practicing homosexuality? Second, many of the male actors appear to be gay or practicing homosexuality. I was not stunt to see Sean Comb or LL Cool J. Third, the winners or movies/shows had some form of homosexuality, whether the plot centered homosexuality or the actors or actresses are gay themselves. Robert Downey could not have described Holloywood any better when he named females he slept with, whether he was kidding or not. Fourthly, this awards show appeared like a televised Illuminati Society meeting with a few invites. I do not mean to throw off on any particular group. I love all people, but it just appeared that way to me as I watched the show. There is so much going on with these people… Read more »

Kiara
Kiara

Yes, you would be correct to notice the homosexuality trend. It has been a bit over a decade now that the machine decided it was time to normalize homosexuality and bit by bit it started doing so by featuring gays or gay-themed plot lines in movies, tv sitcoms, and music videos. This is no surprise and not a new development, it's just that now it's more prevalent. The days when homosexuality was considered 'abnormal' will soon disappear, if they already haven't, and that was the machine's goal – to normalize and encourage different forms of sexual behavior. Anyone who thinks TV or Hollywood are independent and operate without a set intent/motive (other than profit making) is in for a rude awakening. We've been programmed since the tube appeared. Watch the movie "Network" (1976) to learn more about propaganda from tv.

Brody
Brody

60 years ago, interracial couples was not seen just as negatively as homosexuality. Sexuality is not black and white. Animals display all the same sexual relationships as humans. The Bible says homosexuality is an "abomination" but that's only because it was edited to say that after King James died (because he was famously bisexual). The original Hebrew Old Testament and Latin New Testament say something completely different. Cowards need to stop hiding behind the Bible and just admit that they are themselves filled with ignorance, hate and fear of something they could never possibly understand. P********a is something else completely different so if anyone tries to compare homosexuality to p********a, you are the one who is 'abnormal.'

Brody
Brody

forget the 'not' part in the first sentence.

Hayden
Hayden

Its discusting because my God given conscience tells me its discusting. Which is no different to what God says in the Bible. It's a sin, read the original Hebrew and Greek to understand that the bible does say its a gross sin.

It was discusting 20 years ago when the media didn't have such a strong opinion on the subject and people weren't as conditioned by the media as we are today and its still discusting today. Basically its a spirit, its another tactic by Satan to distance people from a relationship with God which will result in them going to Hell. They need to repent, go to a spirit filled chuch and turn to Jesus. That goes for everyone in whatever situation you're in. The bible is 100% true. It's Gods word.
http://end-times-prophecy.com/blog/?m=201101

Tutu
Tutu

Yes, homosexuality is definitely a spirit. Many of the people that I know today who are gay suffered some sort of sexual abuse. I have a friend who became transgendered b/c of it. Know this: God loves you…he loves homosexuals dearly and he wants them to come to the knowledge of the truth. He is the only one who can change that state. You cannot do it on your own. Also, sodomy is a very important part of the illuminati religion. They believe they gain power from the act among other things. Some artists who sell their souls have to show their allegiance in some way and that is often just one of the deal breakers; sleep with someone of the same sex, or anal r**e, etc.

To find out more about the illuminati: Go to YouTube and type in John Todd. He was an illuminati insider who found Christ and exposed their deeds. They tried to discredit him and eventually killed him. If you still choose to disbelieve, I pray that God will enlighten you soon.

locke6854
locke6854

I predict Johnny Depp to be next…..

jonathan
jonathan

mucho nice

Masher1
Masher1

Who recalls the movie Phantom of the Paradise?

http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/movies

had another look after i read this post and was shocked at the content in this movie from 1974.

It even has the checkered floor.

clark
clark

you all need a life

a person
a person

as do you

Rae
Rae

That was the same exact thing I said when I saw the commercial for this movie

Alaina
Alaina

Excellent work! I watched this movie just so I could examine the underlying message- I figured you would be all over this one! I think they did an excellent job on the symbolism, and even the actress they used reflected the overall demonstration of occult mind control= "Kaballistic Kitten", Natalie Portman.

BLAKZULU
BLAKZULU

I am so stealing all this info for my own artistic creations!!

Killuminati
Killuminati

I dont know if anyone CAN answer this question, I do believe that this is more than just a hollywood film as you can see in my previous post, But WHY would they want to expose and show us what they are doing?

Is it because they want to show us oh this is just movie stuff, its not real, its just hollywood? Or are they subliminally putting messages into our heads that this is what we should be like?

If not, then I dont see the point in showing us these demonic ways of the music industry?

wake up
wake up

I also have the same questions in my head i wish someone will answer them !!

a person
a person

Aren't ya glad ya asked? . . . . . http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Ameri

Just some info. Take it or leave it.

Mandabala
Mandabala

Why do the elite make such films:

1) To entice people to evil. Even when people see that evil leads to death and destruction, they are seduced by the success and fame.

2) They love to show off and tell everybody they are in control.

3) They do it as a homage to Satan, an act of worship.

4) To lead people's minds away from what is good and healthy.

stacy-nyc
stacy-nyc

both.. exactly as you state..

BazookaJo
BazookaJo

You forgot "Ghost Rider" played by Nicholas Cage about a stuntman who sells his soul to the devil to avenge his father's death. Nicholas is definitely part of Illuminati, he's the nephew of Francis Ford Coppela for starters and is or was the star of these Illuminati type movies: Lord of War,Bad Lieutenant,City of Angels,Conair,Face Off,National Treasure,Season of the Witch,The Sorcerer's Apprentice,Knowing,World Trade Center and Next,etc.

Some of these movies has symbolism all over them, example National Treasure and Knowing.

X
X

Also, Portman is pregnant by some guy she met whil filming Swan. What does this mean, seeing as some actors dies going through this transformation. She is doing the opposite, bringing life into the world, Is this some evil seed she is carrying?

Faith
Faith

Just another poor unsuspecting innocent victim of their sick cult. A lot of these actresses are breeders for them.

Mandabala
Mandabala

Black Swan is one of those movies that leave you with a sick feeling in your gut. The reason is that it makes an apology for evil, and a very convincing one. The movie is starred by Natalie Portman (née Natalie Harshlag, from Jerusalem), directed by a Jew from Brooklin who lived in a kibbutz in Israel, Darren Aronofsky and produced by a company named “Phoenix”. Aronofsky had his debut with the movie “Pi”, which has as main theme kaballah and Jewish occult numerology.  PLOT (SPOILERS) Nina (Portman) is a ballet dancer in New York. The movie starts with a dream, where Nina dances with a seductive male dancer, an Antonio Banderas type who suddenly changes into a demon, horns and all. She is raised by a mother who “failed” in her career, who chose to quit ballet in order to raise the baby (she chose the good and is a loser). Nina lives in her childhood bedroom, surrounded by plush dolls and pink decoration. She is anorexic, has no boyfriend, is possibly schizophrenic and scratches herself until she bleeds. Her mother is a disciplinarian who wants Nina to fulfill her own desire to be the first dancer in the company.  Thomas… Read more »

confused
confused

Natalie Portman portrayed the dark side as the famous and rich so she is actually talking about herself and the other hot celebrities out there Doesnt all that ring a bill in her head i mean how can u know for real that evil is dark and you still follow it???? , can someone please answer me

Everyone Will Bow- C
Everyone Will Bow- C

Great explanatory recap on what Vigilant explained. You should also have a blog to warn people of what is coming. I think these movies are designed to take control of its watchers' minds. This strategy is not at all a new one and the approach is not as well. Hitler used this very approach to turn a race of people against another race. He used symbols within the movies and on the movie screens.

One thing we do know about Satan is that he is clever, but not clever enough. He continues to use the same strategy.

amir
amir

Interesting that Winona Ryder plays the dancer who was discarded and she herself is actually living as the ex-hot young starlet, a position now held by who… Natalie Portman.

Life imitating art, or is it the other way around?

Vanessa
Vanessa

You must all check out this article about Natalie Portman being an MK ultra victim.
http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2009/11/nata

stacy-nyc
stacy-nyc

WOWWWW and check out the movie with young Britney- never heard of it and they were BOTH in it@!

Geoff
Geoff

Soyokiki's comment "So how do the ones in the industry see this or interpret this movie? The message is so clear that even the persons that don’t know about the illummi’s would uderstand that ambition for fame it’s not a good hing that would end up your life."

Jim Carey felt compelled to dedicate a comedy skit to the Black Swan movie. Although humor is his medium, he underlines the theme of moral compromise being key to achieving artistic success.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd7lttA5rVM&fe

dimitris
dimitris

OMG! Music industry now promotes rapists/murderers. After all sex is human nature, keep on falling…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QccRAngv7I0

Everyone Will Bow- C
Everyone Will Bow- C

I think the music industry and movie industry are intermingling and interweaving their thoughts and ideas. Music videos are taking on the form of mini-movies.

That is a horrible idea. There are too many fools and unwise people already acting out what they hear in the music. Music is very powerful and so are words. Thanks for sharing the video.

Moses
Moses

Exceptional comment !

Soyokiki
Soyokiki

So how do the ones in the industry see this or interpret this movie? The message is so clear that even the persons that don't know about the illummi's would uderstand that ambition for fame it's not a good hing that would end up your life. Is it disinformation or they just don't care anymore?

Dimsum
Dimsum

You stare into the vacuum llong enough, and it will stare right back into you. Is perfection, is greatness in art something that can only be achieved through becoming something beyond human, something otherworldy, and in achieving this state is the cost your mortal soul. Robert Johnson at the crossroads.

also because I cannot comment on a closed thread, did you know that Alejandro is Spanish for Alexander, as in Alexander Edward Crowley, which is how the 'Beast' was christened afore he changed his name to Aliestair.

Pheonix33
Pheonix33

The crow is a very important symbol.Search on google images Odin.Odin (Lucifer) was the head of the nordic gods (fallen angels).In some images he appears having just one eye.He was accompanied by 2 crows and 2 dogs.The crow and the dog are a symbolic representation of familiars (demons).In the Qur'an is it said that some djinns/demons look like snakes and dogs.In Madonna's music video ''Frozen'', she plays the role of Odin (satan) and is trying to tempt the viewer ''to give himself to her''.In this video, satan's familiars appear in the form of a black dog and a flock of crows. Also crows are used by witches as animal familiars.So in the movie ''The Crow'', from where does the main character returns?From HELL!Remember the wrestler Sting?He had the make-up of ''The Crow'' and it's symbol was the scorpion.In Mortal Kombat, from where does The Scorpion comes?From HELL!The scorpion could shapeshift his head into a flaming skull.Who has this symbol?The Ghost Rider!From where does the ghost rider comes?From HELL! See how the pieces of the puzzle are connected?And that's just a small part.I'm just trying to prove to you the nature of the world we are living in.And this world is… Read more »

cultofamerica
cultofamerica

Very good information you provide.

I wonder though if we will in this world find all the puzzle pieces. Is that why we are here?

I think it is more what we will do here, than what we will learn here.

If we hear the voice of God calling, then like Samuel we will awaken and act.

The Christian is called to action. The evidence of the darkness surrounding us should serve to quicken our step. Our humble service to others, our willingness to embrace even our enemies is a much more radical expression than most assume. This is a revolution that can tear the veil of darkness for all of time.

Thanks

Mia
Mia

Seriously–when did this site become overrun by overly religious zealots? (You know, the "Jesus Saaaaaaaves!" types…)

It's terrible that all of us who have educated ourselves on this Illuminati phenomena are becoming assosciated with these "brainwashed" people by default. For the sheer sake of stating it: We are not ALL like this. Some of us follow no religion at all, and some of us are even into the occult ourselves and simply find this content fascinating (especially since we can recognize a lot of it). That is ALL.

Everyone Will Bow- C
Everyone Will Bow- C

Mia, please be careful regarding your words " Seriously–when did this site become overrun by overly religious zealots? (You know, the “Jesus Saaaaaaaves!” types…" Jesus does take care of His own. He represents the true light and love for God's people. He loves you enough to give you salvation as well. All you have to do is accept Him as the savior.

Vigilant gives us all freedom to share our opinions. Please do not bash those whose beliefs do not align with your non-religious beliefs. I am not a religious person either. I just believe in Jesus and His ways. Since I gave Him soveriegn over my life, I see things differently and approach life differently. I take nothing for granted not even this blog. This blog helps me to understand a lot of things that are written in the Bible. It is not my commentary but it places perspective on things. Jesus loves you

Pheonix33
Pheonix33

Watch the horror film ''Mirrors''.It can give you some hints.

Pheonix33
Pheonix33

The swan wings are the wings of a fallen angel and they represent demonic attachment to a human.Search annunaki on google images.Although many would think that annunaki were aliens that came from the sky they were in fact humans possesed by demons->wings and head of a bird attached to a human body. They are depicted as holding a pine fruit, the seed of the tree of life/knowledge.Remember the old testament story of the serpent who retrieves a fruit from the tree of life/knowledge and corrupts Adam and Eve with it.Now there are two symbols hidden here to explain this corruption:life=fertility=sex;knowledge=emancipation=pride.

WEZ
WEZ

I used to have a lot of respect for Natalie Portman as an actress and person. But it decreased eversince she let herself being used by the industry. First this movie, later on some more controversial movies. Yes, Natalie Portman is hot now but for how long? As soon as the industry will have a new star, she will be disposed as trash, and she will lose everything. I hope that she will turn to the God of her people, El Elohim and His Messiah Yeshua. That is the only way to become Only the White Swan again and to get rid off the Evil Black Swan. She may lose all the 'riches' of this world but she will have eternal life and peace in the afterlife.

Pheonix33
Pheonix33

''Coincidently'', the majority of the world's gratest artists are members of secret societies and are implicated in magic rituals.Oh, i think i know from where this ''inspiration'' comes from.Like an ex-member of a spiritist society said:there must be a force that works for you somewhere or you won't make it further in a certain industry. Let me give you an example:the greek god Dionisos was the god of wine, orgies and theatre.He is sometimes depicted like a satyr/faun:half man-half goat (another symbol for ''you know who''). Wine=alcohool and drugs create breaches in the conscious human mind so it is easier for the demons to access the subconscious and to possess the individual that uses them.That is why stars that are members (or are used by) of secret societies abuse them so often (Elvis Presley,Michael Jackson,Marilyn Monroe,Miley Cyrus,The Beatles,Heath Ledger etc. etc.) Orgies=secret societies use depraved sexual rituals to summon the spirits of fertility.Like some cultists wrote, in the moment of the climax the subconscious mind is oppened for a few seconds, enough time for a demon to access it. Theatre (like i said the devil enjoys to mimic the creation of god (characters,places,situations))->movie industry (that's why hollywood is filled with… Read more »

Real Politik
Real Politik

Great post…I was wondering will you ever do the research on the tv show “Lost”? That series also had a lot of occult themes and strange scenes that i feel need to be looked at, and i was also a big fan of the show.

Pheonix33
Pheonix33

Only the Creator is perfect.Humans that are trying to achieve perfection are more closer to a demonic possession or a mental disease.That's one of the bullshit the devil has decieved mankind with:that man is the center of the universe, that man can become god.Well, let me tell you something, not even Lucifer and his angels can become gods.The All Seeing Eye symbol is the eye of lucifer.But,as i know from a trusted source, lucifer (and any of his demon servants) can only be in one place at a time.They are only creatures like us.So it's symbol only has the role of confusing his followers (and sometimes some of us, who research the secret societies) so that they think he is the supreme god and he sees all things.In many pagan religions (egyptian for example) his manifestations through certain gods are told to be the creators of everything.Lucifer and his angels didn't create anything, they just stole the creations of God and corrupted them (one of them,unfortunaly was man).With this ocasion i will like to ask Vigilant Citizen to make an analysis of the movie 300 because is filled with occult symbols and meanings.In this movie the human king stands always… Read more »

Blonde13
Blonde13

Haven't you remarqued how one of these poster represents the masonic pyramid with the eye inside? Those with the swan penetrate nina's mind!!

jessa
jessa

EXCELLENT WORK VC!!

Pheonix33
Pheonix33

Let's not forget about the black spider-man ''possessed'' by the ''alien'' Venom->snake->demon.The demon gave him increased power and enhanced his agressivity. A lot of dark symbolysm lies around this character:the spider web is very important to secret societies because they strangle their pray (us) in it, it is a symbol of their control over the world (see United Nations logo).Another symbol is the horned hand sign that spider-man is throwing at the audience (when he releases the web).The horned hand sign flashed in a vertical manner represents satanic adoration, while flashed in a horizontal manner (like spider-man) to someone has the role of casting a satanic hex or spell.That's right, a hex to make you think that ''he's the friendly neighbourhood spider-man''.These cultists use the media to promote their symbols and ideas not in a negative way, but in a possitive way, using characters that ''represent'' the good guys, idols of childhood.Other examples might be Hellboy( a demon), He-Man(has the knights templar cross on his chest), Superman(his emblem is a snake in a pyramid), Blade(a vampire;in some occult practices (e.g.:left-hand path rituals) the members must drink blood in order to complete a ritual;also there are so-called energetic vampires->demons that provoke… Read more »

Marc Alain Therrien
Marc Alain Therrien

Don't forget "Ghost Rider" played by Nicholas Cage about a stuntman selling his soul to the devil to avenge his father's death. Nicholas is the nephew of Francis Ford Coppela and starred in these Illuminati type movies: Lord of War,Bad Lieutenant,City of Angels,Conair,Face Off,National Treasure,Season of the Witch,The Sorcerer's Apprentice,Knowing,World Trade Center and Next. If this guy isn't a member of Illuminati or Freemasons, I'd be very surprise.

RRRRR
RRRRR

You know what i noticed yesterday as i walked into ForLove21 whis is the accessories shop of Forever21 the checkerboard floors and that really disappointed me.

OhLaLa
OhLaLa

I loved this film. It was so beautifully made & acted. I didn't see anything sinister in it at all. I saw a young woman that was so horribly "messed" up by her mother & the route her life went. I saw sooo many I personally have known in Nina, & their abuse & their afflictions had absolutely nothing to do with "illuminati"! I guess this is an instance where I have to beg to differ. Not everything has a sinister or evil message people. I think this film has an important & valuable lesson.

wicked_plum7
wicked_plum7

Exactly! This movie is psychological. Its about embracing the "Shadow" side of your personality that you have repressed. Nina couldn't go through adult hood being a pure and virginal little girl forever…that's what was destroying her! By embracing her shadow, she didn't become the "Black Swan" that wasn't the point. She became The Swan Queen and integrated both sides of her psyche. Her "death" at the end of the film was not a literal death…we're only seeing it from her POV…it was the death of her old fragmented self, and her resurrection as a whole being. That's why she considered herself "Perfect" in the end.

Amy
Amy

THank you for giving what is finally a sane review of the movie!! I appreciate it.

Dan
Dan

I can't read this now!! I must read if after I've seen the movie, lol

Bassbait
Bassbait

I'm utterly shocked that there hasn't been an analysis on David Lynch or Stanley Kubrick's films yet. For example, the three films by David Lynch – Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive, and Inland Empire all have an LA theme going on. Inland Empire is almost the EXACT SAME THING as Black Swan in this case – Inland Empire is about a woman who takes a job on a cursed movie, and during the making of the film, she descends into madness, and can't separate movies from reality anymore. Mulholland Drive might have similar themes, but I don't know, I haven't seen it. All 3 deal with LA and I've heard an interpretation that they represent Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven (in that order – LH, MD, and IE). Stanley Kubrick has Eyes Wide Shut, The Shining, Full Metal Jacket, A Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon, Dr. Strangelove, and 2001: A Space Odyssey which ALL deal with similar issues – EWS deals with the themes of social hierarchy and yada yada yada. FMJ deals with mind control, and Joker's eventual programming into his dream of being the "killer" which turns on him and makes him everything he worked against. ACO deals with a depraved… Read more »

OhLaLa
OhLaLa

Sounds like you've already done a pretty good analysis of these films on your own. I read somewhere a few years back that people actually thought Kubrick was killed for making Eyes Wide Shut. & I also read that when he agreed to do The Shining, he'd have the right to change the screen play & add certain scenes. I don't remember which ones & why (I wanna say it had something to do w/Native Americans) but even back then he caused a "fuss" w/his vision & imagery.

Blonde Pigeon (becau
Blonde Pigeon (becau

@ Bassbait "I’m utterly shocked that there hasn’t been an analysis on David Lynch or Stanley Kubrick’s films yet…."

Rob Ager does some very good Kubrick analysis here (plus many other films)

http://collativelearning.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/robag88

Dalia
Dalia

That part about Nina’s transformation representing the force that takes over some artists to become these creative geniuses took the interpretation to a whole different level for me. Love the Heath Ledger reference this is exactly what I though when he first died, except then I believed it was an od and now I believe he was sacrificed. Thanks for the great article

peeping out
peeping out

i remember an article from vh1 stating that Natilei Portman thought she was actually going to die from her pysche from playing this role, how she thought that at nights she was going to die from the impact of playing this role gave her. I'm glad she didnt. Heather Leager made Batman, I think. At least thats all I remember is how good of an actor Heath Ledger was as joker. It's a big price to pay for fame, I wish more younger ppl see what the risks are and how much theyre not woth paying for, but the dumbing down of america, we only have to strenthen our skill of getting thru thicker & dumber skulls of ppl who dont know and who dont want to know, that'll be the real talent. Gl and God bless!

mhm
mhm

are there any others out there who no joke have dissociated like i have?

Herbsen
Herbsen

I love darren aronofskys movies!
The Fountain is my favorite

Amy
Amy

Again I love this site but for people to think this is sick illuminati film to promote their agenda then please just rethink it. My sister put it well when she saw it. she said alot of people looked confused at the end. truth is unless uve been in that world and have been in that artistic realm, you will never fully get the movie. Its a psychological thriller people. You can't promote anything from that film other than think twice before lettng your girl be a professional dancer. That world is tough

wake up
wake up

"I often point out that great works of art can be interpreted in numerous ways, depending on the knowledge and experiences of each viewer" quoted by Vigilant citizen

Everyone Will Bow- C
Everyone Will Bow- C

Here goes…. some people will just see all movies as forms of entertainment, because they first enter the movie theaters to be entertained and not having to use their brains.

I gather your sister was lost on Inception as well.

Hollywood loves people like you and your sister. Clueless

That was mean of me, but people such as you and your sister are easy to be used by these people. Please educate yourself a little more.

Amy
Amy

Note i said my sister said people in the theatre seemed lost. She herself grasped the full meaning of the movie because she too was a dancer. I stand by my belief that no matter what hollywood will promote the illuminati agenda however in this movie paticular you don't get its full meaning unless you have lived that life of a dancer.

And please don't tell me now that the 20 years i put into it was all for illuminati agenda!

IseeIt
IseeIt

People that don't understand the occult/dark symbols and references in movies like Black Swan or understand the depth of dreams, astral traveling, lucid dreaming etc., they usually get emotional someway but don't understand psychologically why. They don't know the facts like you and people like vigilant. They think movies are all for "fun" and "make believe" and just "entertainment". I'm excited for this girl and her sister to dig deeper after reading your response, because they will see that the 'being a competitive dancer in the cuthroat dance world' is more than meets the eye. The history of dance, the fashion, the hair, the weight loss…or actresses who have parents that are handlers and possibly mind controlled themselves…etc. they will see that there is reasoning for all of these roles and positioning in celebs' careers…why they are chosen for big productions. When one is about to wake up from all of this programming, they usually say something similar to what this girl and her sister were discussing. These girls sound like they have a chance to learn but people like Natalie Portman may totally be aware of what they are getting involved in, or maybe she's so protected she has… Read more »

Amy
Amy

I'm not a girl, I am a woman of 33 who has had a dance career, been in that world, and also been educated in the world of Illuminati and culy symbolism. My whole point to my post, is pretty much in every movie there will be symbolisms and references to illuminati agenda. However, the ballet world isn't like being a gymnast or athlete. It is all that and then some. It is in artform which incorporates acting. For anyone to be a professional dancer and devote their life and the time and discipline to it, requires a bit of craziness. I can literally relate to everything thing in that movie beyond the symbolism. Everyone has a dark side, everyone can go from innocent to dark and carefree. IT doesn't ALWAYS mean its by some mind controlling organization. When I read some of these responses I'm reminded why alot of people look at people who believe in conspiracy theories as loonies. Some take it way too far where all they see is that. If you are truely smart you will learn to pick it apart and decide what is what and not blanket everything as illuminati agenda. You can make… Read more »

wake up
wake up

Do you think Natalie Portman cares about ballet !! she could have used any form of art like hip-hop dancing ,singing ,etc etc.. thast not the point ,she is not trying to get into the dark side of ballet dancing specifically the movie is about he dark side of fame. I am so sorry to tell you that they used such a sweet form of dancing to make little girls and women relate to the story and sympathize.

What Hollywood does is so dark and evil its all part of a bigger agenda beyond sweet dancing or good singing.

Amy
Amy

Actually if you did ur research natalie does care about ballet because she used to take ballet when she was younger on long island. Also she had told the director years before that she wanted to specifically do a ballet movie. the director also stated he had a friend who was a professional and was facinated with that world.

Again, go be in the dance world and you will see its not fairies and princesses. This wasn't to appeal to just the innocent side of dance. It actually showed the dance world for what it really is. A dark place to be in just like hollywood.

Daffy Duck
Daffy Duck

@Amy "Everyone has a dark side, everyone can go from innocent to dark and carefree. IT doesn’t ALWAYS mean its by some mind controlling organization. When I read some of these responses I’m reminded why alot of people look at people who believe in conspiracy theories as loonies…." I agree with what you're saying and this is why I find the whole subject so fascinating. Yes it CAN be taken as just a (camp, dumbed down and very silly) movie about the darker side of being an artist. With ballet requiring so much discipline and dedication getting caught up in obsessions, being highly strung, the quest for perfection, 'craziness' are all part of the mix – sometimes in a healthy way …… sometimes not so much. So that's one level. And that's fine. 🙂 But the illuminati and their methods of control (and let's not forget the part WE all play in facilitating their agendas) are really a bit like 'ocean currents' …. they seem like conspiracy nonsense when you are standing on the beach looking out at just a single bit of the sea in front of you …… because to figure them out you really have to think… Read more »

wake up
wake up

@Daffy Duck, Your article brought tears to my eyes every word you said went straight into my heart.

Thanks a lot for this amazing article it just seems that you wrote everything i was trying to say

I would really love to follow you on a blog or something and read more.

cumi
cumi

@Daffy Duck : Great explanation .. keep on writing !

LVB
LVB

Great comment, DD.

Your 2 cents is worth millions. 🙂

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i LOVE this movie! 😀 its so intense and dark yet beautiful

Hiba
Hiba

Has anyone else noticed how Natalie Portman has suddenly burst into the movie scene again? She had a long hiatus and suddenly she's everywhere. Do you think this sudden fame is the result of an initiation into the dark side?

MichiganBeauty
MichiganBeauty

I have reason to believe Natalie (Hershlag) Portman is a real like MK Ultra victim who was born into this sick system. Her godfather is Timothy Leary, notorious occultist Aleister Crowley's protege. She's been linked to Illuminati families, like dating a Rothschild and others. I just watched one of her first roles when she was 12 or 14 – Leon, The Professional, and her character was sick and twisted. That is the perfect movie for a p*******e because it shows a 12 year old attempting to initiate a relationship with a 40 something man, and displays her as if she wants it. Several of her films are dark (V for Vendetta for example), and the works I have seen have a common theme of trauma based programming (or just trauma). She is an amazing actress, no question, but the range of emotion she plays somtimes makes me think she's reaching within herself because of her relation to that type of pain. I doubt she is acutally able to watch any of her films like Johnny Depp, b/c they probably contain to many triggers. I don't think she was necessarily giving in to the dark side, but likely on a scheduled,… Read more »

Vanessa
Vanessa

Check out this article on Natalie Portman being an MK Ultra victim. I read this a while back.
http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2009/11/nata

buttaflyytulsa
buttaflyytulsa

Natalie and her mother Shelley Stevens were born on exactly the same day June 9th [69], on Shelley's 29th birthday; which seems like something a fertility doctor could organize with little problem for whatever purpose [ritual or otherwise]

I pulled that from the link you provided.

Um, when's her baby due?!?!?!?!?!?!?

AA
AA

Jesus saves haha… She's Jewish.

MichiganBeauty
MichiganBeauty

So is He. Being Jewish doesn't hinder one from accepting Christ, nor does any other religious affiliation or lifestyle. The entire point of salvation is for people who are not connected to God through Jesus because of sin. Everyone qualifies as a sinner (we all know it), so everyone therefore is also able to obtain salvation through God's one way & Savior.

LVB
LVB

Yes, you are right on the mark there.

Natalie's father is/was also a prominent psychiatrist at the Tavistock Institute for Medical Psychology in the UK, which has long been known for its association with MK-Ultra and various other mind control programs.

stacy-nyc
stacy-nyc

i thought she was jewish??

stacy-nyc
stacy-nyc

i thought she was jewish??

dont know about aleister's protege but whether this happening in real life to her or not we can't say 100% for sure, what we can say – and remember this is about an act of hers, not her real life, is thast the movies continue to want to show us what is going on out there

and perhaps it is so we can get used to it like it is not a big deal

which is the whole point of the coming out of the elite which is going on right now

QwertyB
QwertyB

… or maybe she just enjoys playing roles that have a bit more emotional depth than "ditzy romcom office secretary" etc. etc.?

Godozo
Godozo

Probably reprogramming. She's turning thirty this year.

FierceXFearless
FierceXFearless

Another great article by V.C!!!

I'm with u!!!

buttaflyytulsa
buttaflyytulsa

Correction VC, she didn't have a 'vision' of her mother during her 'homework'. Her mother was actually in the room with her!!!! Sorry, but had to point out the funniest scene in the movie!!! But aside from that, excellent and profound description and breakdown, as usual!!!!

D.C.M
D.C.M

Thanks VC for this post. This movie looked creepy the moment I saw the trailer. Thanks for breaking everything down so perfectly. Keep it going, man. The Illuminati is getting more bolder and bolder by the day.

Not Blind
Not Blind

Wonderful interpretation as usual, VC! I guess Natalie Portman’s career has been solidified now that she starred in this movie. I did find it strangely fascinating that she became pregnant during the filming of this movie. Aside from the fact that she was barely eating in order to keep her svelt figure, any professional ballerina would know that pregnancy would be a career killer. Is that what happened to Nina’s mother’s career as a ballerina? I haven’t seen the film yet, so I’m just speculating. I also enjoyed the aside regarding other “black swans” in Hollywood. Keep up the great work, VC!

team jesus
team jesus

Also interesting that her co-star/choreographer, Benjamin Millepied, dropped everything (including a girlfriend) to be her boyfriend. Then they quickly started a family and became engaged. An anonymous source on the set said he seemed "obsessed" with her from day one. It's all sounding very "handler" like. And yes, she is getting a lot of work and being more "sexual" in her films.

Stay tuned on this one…

Megan Bishop
Megan Bishop

Are you serious!?!? Oh my gosh!! I haven't heard this! I'll have to see what comes up about her in the near future.

Not Blind
Not Blind

Considering the baby boom in Hollywood lately, do they think that having children is a form of protection from evil? It's almost as though the "chosen" have been told it's time to give birth to the next generation of stars.

amilovesyou
amilovesyou

Sounda more like ritual impregnations to me. Ever seen the movie "Rosemary's Baby"? Worth a horrifying watch …. I feel terrible for every mind controlled celebrity and I feel even worse for their more-than-likely-to-be-ritually-abused-from-birth children… this has obviously been going on for generations now and each generation the abuse just gets more and more psychologically and technologically advanced… 🙁 x

buttaflyytulsa
buttaflyytulsa

Totally agree!!!! And isn't her new film completely about casual sex? She'll be topless pulling a 'Halle Berry' here pretty soon.

camille
camille

yes i heard all about that. it was strange to me how she suddenly was with this guy. i've never been crazy about her, but i do think natalie portman is a talented actress… yet something about her has always thrown me off. i loved her performance in this movie, she was no doubt fantastic, but all this hype she's getting now heightens my odd feelings about her again… i've always thought it was bullshit how she gets away with so much because she's so "intelligent" and "charitable" — i've always thought her to be a hussy just like every other actress. (i can't believe i just said that but it's true). same for that scarlett johansson, i cannot stand her either. way overrated.

RC
RC

NOT BLIND: Please don't convince yrself that aspects of Natalie Portman's life dovetail with her on-screen character &/or this Monarch programmiing theme. (Funny that VC's review didn't mention any occult symbolism re: Mila Kunis' role as Portman's rival/alter ego…) I'm not saying I disagree with everything VC said in his analysis — I haven't seen the film yet (but I did read the script), so I'll have to save my 2 cents til the DVD comes out. But I will say that the commercials & clips make it clear that the film is visually stunning. And Aronofsky has yet to make a bad movie. But Symbolism, however potent it may appear on screen, isn't tantamount to Facts. One fact is that no director finishes a movie then goes out & starts doing press for it a few weeks later. BLACK SWAN opened less than a month ago, but it was still in post-production this time last year, in Jan 2010. (For anyone who doesn't know,post-prod. is all the stuff that's done to complete the film after it's finished shooting.) Portman's baby bumb looks like she's abt 4 mos. along now. So No, she did NOT get pregnant while she was… Read more »

Deb
Deb

yea, i've actually heard that she was pregnant from the play director in the film, which was represented as her handler…. weird

VCFAN
VCFAN

I also do not agree with your interpretation of the self arm – if you didn't get that the lesbo scene was her mother abusing her not an act with her friend/girlfriend you need to watch it again !

The self harm i believe is a result of the sexual abuse/control which is often common with victims as a desperate attempt of feeling like you still have some control.

wills
wills

Good one VC

Essential Truth
Essential Truth

So are they subliminally encouraging us to embrace the dark side of our minds?..like Rhianna's Good Girl Gone Bad & Beyonce's Sasha fierce etc….are we all suppose to live double lives where one side is innocent and the other is evil? …the ying / yang..some pretty twisted stuff…

IAmLonefrog
IAmLonefrog

Not only are they encouraging it, they are letting you experience it.

I feel very sad for those who go and see this movie and have absolutely no idea what the hell just happened to them. Armed with knowledge, I feel these types of programs have a decreased effect on the individual. Stay on top of your studies everyone, and you just may be able to avoid the black swan syndrome.

Bay State Observer
Bay State Observer

LoneFrog, IMHO, it's not enough to avoid the Black Swan Syndrome, as you called it.

Eventually, with God's love and grace, we must destroy it. Literally destroy it. Before it destroys us.

IAmLonefrog
IAmLonefrog

When you avoid a thing (to keep away from; keep clear of; shun) you are in effect not feeding it, which will result in said things death.

So, you go on thinking that GOD wants you to "destroy" a thing literally and see where that gets you.

Effin hard ons! GOD didn't put you here to DESTROY, you are here to learn.

IMHO

Deb
Deb

that's true, what you mentioned about "not feeding", but what happens when someone has was previously a drugee goes clean for years, and then gets offered drugs? they're still tempted, and the years of missing it didnt kill that temptation. In a way, its the same concept.

For me, i used to love Lady Gaga before i knew about all of this, but every now and then i'll hear one of her songs playing in a store or something, and ill find myself singing along, and the song will get stuck in my head, and i'll want to hear more.

VCFAN
VCFAN

VC " After her meeting with Thomas, Nina, dressed in white, crosses the path of another Nina, dressed in black. This symbolically represents the coming of Nina’s new, dark alter-ego. "

tHE GRAFFITI TAG in this frame is "Ghost" as well i'm sure no accident representing ghost of her old self e.t.c

Also note the Hair Bun this is very important with her/her mother in the film – and note the symbolism as she becomes the Dark Alter ego the Hair is down let loose / broken …

Bella
Bella

Vigilant, I kinda figured you'd do a piece on this sick film! Thanks!

Hey, if you saw the movie….did anyone notice in Thomas' apartment what was on the wall? It was a huge Rorshach (ink blot)….in the shape of the baphomet. That caught my eye so fast and I immediately thought of this web site and how true all of this symbolism is.

buttaflyytulsa
buttaflyytulsa

I noticed it!!!!!!

Amy
Amy

I love this website because of the truth it puts out there… HOwever for the first time I have to absolutely disagree with the over analytical view of this movie. Sure you can pick apart pretty much anything nowadays and say its some sort of occult meaning howeverI am a former professional ballet dancer, and I know the stories of the classics just as well as any other well versed dancer. This movie wasn't about any hidden meanings or mind control agendas. I have been where the character Nina was when I was 18. Obsessed with ballet and the bubble of a world a dancer is in when she is infatuated by it. i have experienced a mother very similar to that. Its called stage mom. Wanting something for her daughter that she didn't get to accomplish in life. More importantly I know first hand what it is like to get so into a role and perfection that it becomes you. No hidden meanings, just plain and simple a girl who was raised very sheltered and has issues because of it. A dancers career is very short compared to most people. Balanchine one of the most famous choreographers and directors… Read more »

Blonde Pigeon (becau
Blonde Pigeon (becau

@ Amy (quote) "….Sure you can pick apart pretty much anything nowadays and say its some sort of occult meaning howeverI am a former professional ballet dancer, and I know the stories of the classics just as well as any other well versed dancer. This movie wasn’t about any hidden meanings or mind control agendas. I have been where the character Nina was when I was 18. Obsessed with ballet and the bubble of a world a dancer is in when she is infatuated by it…." I don't see it has to be an 'either – or' interpretation. I see it more like multiple interpretations overlaid. I'm sure this film does describe exactly same reality that you are familiar with (young, naive girl getting caught up in a heavy duty role in the already very intense, obsessive and isolated world of the pro (company) ballet dancer), but the film also *uses* that familiar (if a little hammed up!) backstory as a vehicle for the parallel story of a girl losing her mind (which is what makes the film a 'dark thriller')…. and on top of that, this parallel story is in itself also used as a very deliberate metaphor (or… Read more »

IseeIt
IseeIt

Awesome reply. Thanks for taking the words out of my mouth and then some! Some people can't get to level 4 and beyond, but some can when they have teachers like you and VC! Thanks.

BigSyd
BigSyd

In the second poster for the black swan the head of the swan is very phallic looking…hmmm……

GOD MEANS EVERYTHING
GOD MEANS EVERYTHING

Tattoos or insignias on the skin actually focus specific energy fields for the benifit of the demonic entity they basically allow more manipulation on the body's mechanisms especially the mind.

jas
jas

so what about when religious people get a rosary, or depiction of Jesus, or Saint Mary, etc. onto themselves?

Clearly those people are not doing it because they want to have a gate way for the devil. They are doing it to forever show their appreciation/love for that religion. They want a constant reminder of how important God is to them, and want to be reminded that religion is with them in everything they do.( I have not read the bible, but is it ever said that not artwork is to be put on the body?)

on another note, many people do not believe in demons/the devil and therefore do not think as tattoos,etc, as an opening for them to enter. some tattoos have great meanings to the person, and that is why they get it.

Not everything has to do with God/Devil.

Jess
Jess

So your saying if someone has a tattoo then they are most likely taken over by a demonic force? I have 2 tattoos and quite happily say my body is not host to anything evil thank you very much! Oh I also have my ears and navel pierced if that adds to your theory!

kala
kala

I seen the movie as well and what was really strange was at the end when there was this long bright light and as I got up to exit everyone in the audience were still sittin looking dazed and confused when usually ppl leave quickly after a movie

buttaflyytulsa
buttaflyytulsa

Same here. We were all sitting there like 'this can't be the end?' I mean of course we already knew what the movie was by the previews, but some hint of a twist to change it up would have been nice.

LVB
LVB

This ia an outstanding article, Vig. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Blatant is their new standard operating method, simply because "they" have decided that they don't need to be subtle anymore. So many people in our world who are exposed to and consume their products and all of their destructive ideas are so dumb and/or numb that it really doesn't matter now…or so they have come to believe.

It's always important to remember, though, that pride and arrogance always precede the fall. They all want attention and to be admired in the worst way. Well, many of us are watching and paying very close attention to what they are doing and saying, but not as admirers. We already know about their intentions, but through sites like yours, many people are learning and teaching others to recognize and understand their tactics, and thus, we gain a better understanding of how to resist and defeat them within ourselves. These are good things.

Their time will come, and so much sooner than they think. There will be final judgement and justice, and I'm quite certain that it won't be glamorous or artistic…only just, pure and final.

Grey Pigeon
Grey Pigeon

@ LVB "It’s always important to remember, though, that pride and arrogance always precede the fall….." Yes I was thinking the same thing – but from the other perspective: the longer the masses are unaware of what is going on around them and the more blatant and despicable the deception and manipulation gets then the greater the backlog of pure betrayal there is for people to discover once they do wake up. And so the more final and absolute the rejection will be! There is nowhere for all this to go but total exposure and – naturally – total rejection. (Although even rejection is to give corporate mass entertainment more validity than it deserves .. it'll be more like … "yeah monarch symbolism, fragmentation themes, CGI, skinny actresses, breasts and explosions and sex and death blah blah blah … whatever…." – as we walk on by on our way to something a hundred times more interesting/ nourishing / grown up …). And that's what is so cool – for all the fear, violence, corruption and manipulation – once you get your head around it and get over the shock factor, it all becomes chronically arse achingly dull! So incredibly boring… Read more »

LVB
LVB

Great comment, Grey.

I will check out the links you've given here…..thanks!

cultofamerica
cultofamerica

Just maybe our conditioning is leading us to participation in our own destruction.

We are being initiated into a soft cult it seems, and we are not yet aware that it exists.

The time may soon come when we welcome our participation, and relish our self sacrifice.

Perhaps we are there now.

LVB
LVB

Falsified metacommunication = enticing the viewer (victim) to willingly participate in their own oppression.

You spotted it…keep recognizing the patterns 🙂

IseeIt
IseeIt

What you guys are talking about should be explored more. That is something I have not yet thought about. Wow.

Grey Pigeon
Grey Pigeon

Oh yeah, forgot to say – have a read of this (how fitting is THIS for year 2011) Black Swan Theory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory 'The Black Swan Theory or "Theory of Black Swan Events" was developed by Nassim Nicholas Taleb to explain: The disproportionate role of high-impact, hard to predict, and rare events that are beyond the realm of normal expectations in history, science, finance and technology The non-computability of the probability of the consequential rare events using scientific methods (owing to their very nature of small probabilities) The psychological biases that make people individually and collectively blind to uncertainty and unaware of the massive role of the rare event in historical affairs. Unlike the earlier philosophical "black swan problem", the "Black Swan Theory" (capitalized) refers only to unexpected events of large magnitude and consequence and their dominant role in history. Such events, considered extreme outliers, collectively play vastly larger roles than regular occurrences………' This all makes me wonder does such a thing as 'a vaguely straightforward film' actually exist anymore?! .. or is every film made today completely hollow in plot and acted by completely hollow people with all meaning, substance (and let's face it, talent and interest) hidden away entirely… Read more »

Bay State Observer
Bay State Observer

"This all makes me wonder does such a thing as ‘a vaguely straightforward film’ actually exist anymore?! .. or is every film made today completely hollow in plot and acted by completely hollow people with all meaning, substance (and let’s face it, talent and interest) hidden away entirely in the realm of subliminals, symbolism, or some other obscure and disconnected realm of meaning?"

Yes, there DOES exist at least one "vaguely straightforward film":

http://www.theresemovie.com/therese.html

For your consideration. And thank you for your time and patience.

Tutu
Tutu

Question: How many Popes, priests, etc. are masons? Practically all of them! Read the story of Father Alberto to learn that the Catholicism you tout is also a part of the problem and has led millions of souls to damnation. It is the "mother church" which is the true harlot spoken about in Revelation and you must come out of her at once.

I hope god will open your eyes very, very soon

endday
endday

We are program from birth to want to succeed ,so it very easy to get wraped up in the darkside money=living large and who don't want that. But at what price, everygood thing will come to and end then what. It seem like people are so scared to live a normal life. With God it a win win choose everlasting life wwwbiblestudie.org

endday
endday
Bay State Observer
Bay State Observer

Or you may go here to learn a better way of following Christ the Lord:

http://www.fisheaters.com/responses.html

Many thanks in advance.

cultofamerica
cultofamerica

Pushing Rome here? Rather ironic.

The Christian is in no need of such an institution. Rome is perhaps the most significant affront to Christianity that exists today. I do not say that as a Protestant, but as a Christian. The Balkanized Protestant sects leave much to be desired, but are not as tied up with lies, and sickness as is Rome.

To flee the world into the belly of Rome is no improvement, and in light of the fact that those who enter that belly believe they have done good, it may be much worse.

Respectfully

Bay State Observer
Bay State Observer

@cultofamerica

On the contrary, the Christian IS in need of Holy Mother Church. We are not meant to be spiritual “Lone Rangers”. That way leaves us withered and atomized.

If you're definition of Christian is “Bible alone” and “faith alone”, then you are still a Protestant.

Again, contrary to what you hold, “fleeing the world into the belly of Rome” and the deposit of faith Christ entrusted to her IS what is needed today. Staying in the miasma of Protestant sects arguing with each other – from Anglican to Assemblies of God – only makes things worse.

And added to that is a need to reject the idiocy and scandal brought about by the Judases infecting the Church hierarchy since Vatican Council Two. Which is why I am sympathetic to the cause of the S.S.P.X. in general.

But all this is getting away from the topic at hand – the study of the dark influences and symbolism in the movie “Black Swan”.

Thank you for your time and attention.

Respectfully yours

cultofamerica
cultofamerica

A Protestant protests. This is not true of me. I simply state that Rome is composed of din of vipers, in a nest of lies. Why would I protest this. In the early Reformation Rome was the law, and many who dared speak againt this law were "dealt" with, and therefore a protest emerged expansive enough to alter the plans of the Empire of Rome. The vipers are still hard at work regardless of that protest. But the value of the Reformation was in stalling the designs of Rome long enough that I now have freedom to not be a Protestant. You may wish that I was subject to Rome as a reactionary, I am not. In a similar way I state that Mormanism is false, but to not get tied up in active protest of that paticular cult. The best theory I have heard regarding the sickness and darkness of Rome pertained to its occult origins. That being Simon Magus the magician mentioned in Acts. Very interesting that it was he, not Peter buried at the location that is now St. Peters. Things take on new clarity given this information. There is some very good information out there, do… Read more »

thedudeplayinthedude
thedudeplayinthedude

this movie is really good, but the symbols are everywhere, nothing new but its seems as though more and more movies are getting more and more blatant with putting symbols in films, same with commercials. its really sad.

LVB
LVB

“Or are you a dude who has no idea what dude he is and claims to know what dude he is…by playing other dudes?” 🙂

S_COY2005@YAHOO.COM
S_COY2005@YAHOO.COM

thedudeplayinthedudedesguisedasanotherdude

LVB says:

“Or are you a dude who has no idea what dude he is and claims to know what dude he is…by playing other dudes?”

THIS JUS CRACKED ME UP! VERY FUNNY! I LOVE IT! LMAO

nokz
nokz

Great name by the way!

Sealed
Sealed

Brilliant, any thoughts on writing a book?

Merlin5
Merlin5

In the end before she falls on the mattress and dies, the derector comes and says "my little princess" just like he would call Beth ..

RussianNika
RussianNika

Wow…

Evenstar
Evenstar

Thanks VC, superb analysis. Drove past the movie poster at a bus stop today with a man showing his toddler son the crack in her face… I thought "oh dear…" and found it very menacing.

Killuminati
Killuminati

Just by seeing the poster around London with Nina and a crack through her face, I immediately thought, theres something that's not right about that whole look. The poster itself was very appealing and IF I wasnt as careful as I am now about choosing which films to watch, I would have seen it!

Lets pick out the individuals that clearly have no talent and have been trained to be a 'black swan' and actively not support there music. It kills me to think little boys and girls singing Rihannas songs and having no idea who or what they are actually singing about!

Power to the people….Forever and Always!

Tammy
Tammy

Ok, so here's my prediction….Natalie Portman will continue to rise in fame and fortune. She will wallow in success and appear to have it all. Then, she will be sacrificed to the industry along with all the former "puppets" such as Heath Ledger, Brandon Lee, and countless others. And her scream will fall on deaf, dumbed down ears, just as the ones before her. We will hear some bullcrap story that she died of overdose, and then we will sit back and watch another innocent sheep brought to the slaughter. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat….

God, help us…

team jesus
team jesus

I'm suspicious of this instant fiance she's acquired. Like I posted above, he seems like he could be a handler. And let's not forget Natalie's been in the business since childhood. There's no telling what she's been exposed to.

RC
RC

No, God Help YOU, Tammy! To make such a 'prediction' abt the death of a beautiful & talented young woman Who Is Currently Pregnant is a REALLY despicable thing to say! Why project such ill will on someone who has never done anything to you? (Now I remember why I stopped coming to this place…) People, Please STOP Drinking The Koolaid! Forget Illuminati Mind Control — taking every word VC posts (& yes, I consider myself a fan of his) as gospel is just another version of Mind Control! THINK FOR YOURSELVES — TEST THESE THINGS TO SEE IF THEY ARE TRUE! Every successful, attractive person in Hollywood or the music business is NOT an Illuminati puppet destined for an early death. (Altho' Ga-Ga damn sure might be!) Take a moment to examine what you already know abt Hollywood & Use Your Common Sense! the best thing abt celebs is that they're in our faces every day, so we know quite a lot abt most of them. John Belushi had great early success then died young — but no one ever says he was an 'Illuminati puppet'? Why — becuz he was fat & average-looking? Why is it only the… Read more »

Blonde Pigeon (becau
Blonde Pigeon (becau

@ RC …"the best thing about celebs is that they’re in our faces every day, so we know quite a lot about most of them…." I find this remark fascinating…. stunning! To me it's a perfect summation of modern mass media culture. In fact I hardly know what to say as a response! Try to imagine for a moment that there was no mass media – not just for you but for everyone else around you – and imagine there had been no mass media for the last 20 years or so…. OK how much do you know now about Natalie Portman (or any other celeb for that matter)? Answer: Nothing. Maybe you'd have seen her face on a few posters at your local cinema or on video or DVD cases and maybe you'd have seen a few of the films she acted in …….. but that would be it. That would be it … that's all any of us would know. Now bring back the mass media and the whole corporate/ Hollywood PR machine …… how much do you know now? Exactly the same amount! Hardly anything! EXCEPT now your head is also be full of the FEELING of… Read more »

Tammy
Tammy

The truth is, I do NOT wish this on her!!! I do not wish this on anyone! My hopes would be that no one would ever face an untimely death at a young age. But the reality is, there are powers at work, whether we see them or not. I do not necessarily believe every single famous person is being controlled, but I darn sure believe the majority is!!! So, therefore my prediction is not based on some sick desire for that to happen…just the pattern that seems to becoming so prevalent in Hollywood. I am an unashamed believer in Christ, so God DOES help me, everyday! I pray for our country and those who have fallen victim to a bad way of life! I do agree with you on some points, but it's ok to agree to disagree sometimes! Maybe you have never personally heard of directors being accused of such things, but I have! Whether it's intentional at times or not, they can certainly be used just as much as anybody. And I certainly have no predjucies about anyone's appearance~ that has absolutely nothing to do with it! I am not interested in someone's appearance, but rather their… Read more »

Wideawake
Wideawake

@ Everyone Will Bow- Christ Jesus says: …I agree with you

Wideawake
Wideawake

Demons are like a hologram..they shape shift into anyone or anything. A house where a demon resides will hunt out a victim to take possession of. Once they posses the person they drive them mad until they commit the most evil of horrors, like murder or suicide. The demon so immersed in his act often takes on the form of the victim. Like a serial killer who takes tokens of his victims. Then those who reside in the house later see Apparitions or Ghosts of the victim….Little do they know its the demon taking on the form of his victim…Thats why the Bible forbids communication with them.

team jesus
team jesus

Good point. These ghost hunting shows are all over tv now, but do they have a clue about what they're dealing with? One of those guys says after spending the night at a "haunted" location, he felt like something followed him back to his hotel. He says he could hardly sleep. These people are playing with something far worse than fire.

Wideawake
Wideawake

It seems to me that this is nothing more then demonic possession. In order to allow the demonic spirit expression through the persons body the persons (will) or (spirit) or (soul) must be killed, suppressed or shattered. Thats what MK Ultra is. As long as the (will) or (spirit) or (soul) of that person is fighting for the possession of their body the demonic spirit can not enter in and take full possession. Once the demonic spirit has entered few can contain it and it torments them forever, suicide, or murder will release it back to it original state waiting for its next victim. Demons are like serial killers, always taking a token of their victim. The bible tells us the body is the Temple

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.Matthew 10:28

right on
right on

I think the breakdown of this article is great. I love sending my friends here that are caught up in the ways of the world and are blind to the symbolism and wickedness that is being used to break us down. I think that these reviews are good for those of us that have no intention of ever seeing this movie, or to research things from our past, but the question I pose to the people that are supposed to be awake to this occult media is why pay money to support it? Surely we could find something better to do with our time then watch this stuff. I fear that some of us are getting too caught up in it, to the point we become obsessed with it. Let us live our lives and display courage to be good role models to the lost and spread the word of this brainwashing and help wake people up, but do we really need to spend our hard earned cash to support it? I dont think so, I hope that we dont become so obsessed with these kids of movies/music that we actually start getting sucked in. Props though to you VC… Read more »

Heart2Heart
Heart2Heart

How can they be so blantant !!! Now everything is about mindcontrol or illuminati in all of these "wonderful" movies… Gosh can't a person watch a normal good movie x/

Anyway sorry about that lol… but back to the black swan

its so sad how they turn these stars into a black swan…These handlers in my opinion arent even human…who would do stuff like that to another human being. thats just sick and wrong… and when they become black swans there either sacrificed or commit suicide or killed… Gosh i guess the entertainment buisness isnt so glamorous after all 🙁

balkanezi
balkanezi

u are right they are not human being.for me to explain it to you i would need a lot of timeeeeeee

Heart2Heart
Heart2Heart

@balkanezi

It's ok I got all the time in the world

and besides i like to learn new things 🙂

amilovesyou
amilovesyou

try researching "the template" ceremonies or "the ancient secrets of the flower of life", "merkaba", on youtube and the internet in general and the truth will begin to unfold… otherworldly beings (aka aliens) are all part and parcel of this amazing universoul journey… xxx

Heart2Heart
Heart2Heart

I looked it up and im kindoff confuse

can you explain it

amilovesyou
amilovesyou

i'm sorry to say, but i really believe that there is no "good, normal movie", nor has there ever been. I say this not to discount the hard work and efforts that all kinds of artists have put into their film or television work; i myself even have a degree in film and television production from back in the "old days" lol; but I say it because "the media" as a whole IS the illuminfarty's main propaganda tool, and always has been. it was created in america/australia in the early 1910s, and its full use was discovered during the world wars when the media as a whole became an issue of National Security to have – so that you could stay in contact with what was really happening around the world – and enjoy your daily dose of mind control to boot. best advice is to switch off your tv, your radio, your dvd, and be yourself… listen to community radio stations or research your own stuff on the internet. or better yet go out and make an amazing life for yourself, sharing love and light with your community. all we have to do is learn to Be Here Now… Read more »

RR
RR

The most serious Black Swan in Real Life was Princess Diana who died in Occult fashion Sacrificially August 31st, 1997; and the "Royals" have four Black Swans on the pond by where she is buried… Diana’s funeral was held September 6, 1997 and was watched by approximately 2.5 billion people. She was laid to rest in a long black dress, holding rosary beads given to her by Mother Teresa. Her grave is on an island in an ornamental lake (The Round Oval) in Althorp Park. Thirty-six oak trees, symbolizing each year of her life, lead to the lake. 4 black swans swim in the lake, symbolically guarding the island. Read more: http://quazen.com/reference/biography/diana-20-in… http://www.greatdreams.com/princess.htm http://www.greatdreams.com/diana3.htm http://zenbullets.com/blog/?p=160 Nostradamus – Century 2, Quatrain 28 "The last son of the man with the Prophet's name Will bring Diana to her day of rest. At a distance they wander in frenetic grief Delivering a great people from ruin." Her grave, on the "Round Oval", on the island in the lake. A path with 36 oak-trees, marking each year of her life, is leading to the "Round Oval". Originally the family-animals were buried on this island, including Diana´s favorite cat Marmalade. The oak and limetrees on… Read more »

Jana
Jana

Another great article VC. Keep them coming. I have been paying more and more attention and see them in everything around me. It angered me the other day when I bought what I thought was a kid friendly, clean xbox game (Peggle) for my kids that had the eye of Horus in it as one of the levels. i was thoroughly disgusted. I think we'll be seeing even more of this and people who keep just ignoring it hoping it will go away are so WRONG. Wake up, realize it's all around you. Educate yourself and your kids and families. It's only gonna get worse. i pray that those who don't know the Lord find him and those that want nothing to do with these evil forces keep praying. Thanks again VC, so glad to read your articles.

Fcseven
Fcseven

Angry Birds has the all seeing eye all over if you look close. Almost as bad as Peggle.

VCFAN
VCFAN

The lesbian sex scene was WITH HER MOTHER/ABUSER you should o fpicked that up …

camille
camille

well, since VC didn’t, would you please go into detail about that? i know alot of people who saw the film that were confused about that part.

Sarah
Sarah

No, it was with herself. She kept thinking Mila's character was out to get her (which she was bc everyone wanted her role), but her handler kept telling her it wasn't Mila. The only thing standing in her way was herself. He was telling her she must destroy and overcome being the shy little virgin to become the star. When she was seeing Mila's character, she was seeing HERSELF. She was seeing what she needed to become and envied her which is why she imagined attacking and killing her in her dressing room. She was really destroying the "old" Nina. But Nina couldn't handle that kind of life, so she embraced her true self and found freedom from her mother, her handler, and the sick world of show business by killing herself. Her handler saw her as the perfect challenge. He prayed on her weakness and willingness to please. Her mother was merely jealous of Nina's accomplishments. That's why she wanted to lock her up. The movie is very occultish. The director's office was all black and white. Duality was all over the place. The scene where Beth stabs herself repeatedly in the face shouting I am nothing over and… Read more »

Jeff
Jeff

Amazing!!!!! Watched the movie and knew it was a total illuminati film. Still a great film though. And how creepy is it that Jack Nicholson said that about the Joker role. I always loved Batman as a kid. Never knew how demonic it all really was.

Godozo
Godozo

I would have liked to have known what Jack did to survive being The Joker…and what Heath needed to know.

julissa
julissa

I knew you were going to write about this movie, I hated the film actually, it was too disturbing for me

Bobo
Bobo

Excellent as always! Thank you!

Daze
Daze

Wow. When I watched this movie I thought Nina was schizo but as I got to the end I realized Monarch Program.

This really is a great post, website everything!

Everyone Will Bow- C
Everyone Will Bow- C

Oh My God, you analyzed this movie perfectly. When I saw the previews, I thought the same thing about the dancer tapping in to the darkside. Not only that I am also noticing that Natalie Portman is getting a lot of movie roles ince she played Nina in the Black Swan. We as people are some how drawn to the darkside. You stated, "Religious people might say this force is nothing less than spirit possession; scientists might say that psychological torment leads to creativity. No matter the term one uses for this “force”, it certainly exists and it is tapped into by some of the world’s most influential artists." I thnk everyone know that the dark force was a demon from Satan's army . Demons are real. They can feel, hear and talk. Humans cannot see them from the physical realm. Only special anonited people can see them and speak to them as Jesus did in the Bible. That is why when people play with these forces, evil spirits or whatever you want to call them end up losing their minds or lives.We cannot control them. These things are constantly looking for hosts to control. People as well as the… Read more »

soulhustle
soulhustle

I think exorcism is more like a demonic show. Yes demons do suffer when encountering God, and its more evident, but for them to exist in someone its not always like this. Someone could be possessed but in a very subtle way, others may never know. I can’t claim I know but as a Christian I sometimes clearly see when someone is acting out of satanic will. I can’t always tell, but there are cases where it is clear to me. Its different than just one’s own bad will…Having satanic influence also is not something unusual as there are tons of demons looking to ‘devour’ souls….Our life is really, to fight that with the power of Christ, to fight for your soul by the choices you make in life, and by how much you learn to love God. It’s not easy because you have to fight yourself too. But if done in faith, its worth it at the end.

Godozo
Godozo

I think that all artistic activities involve going outside yourself. My favorite saying about inspiration is that "I got this idea from a space about a quarter inch above the top of my head."

I knew a lady who got into ballet. She was a rising star – then one day she didn't remember what she did on stage. The next day she watched herself perform (yes, that happens). The next day she quit.

Rissa
Rissa

I saw Criss Angel's crappy show in Vegas. It's so easy to see right through his parlor tricks. But he is definitely creepy and possessed. Even my skeptical husband, whose hero is Dark Vader (jk), would NOT see the show with me. I had to go alone to a Cirque Show. It's also quite possible that our son was conceived that night, but that's a different story altogether. Bottom line: Holly Madison did right to leave him!

damn
damn

i saw this movie when it first came out and the first thing i thought when i finished was i wonder if vigilant is going to write an article.

i must say this article hit it right on the spot. the movie was somewhat disturbing to watch but yet it was such a good thriller. it amazes me how they can put so much into one movie.

but its sad that this evil dark side has control over the good. alot of good actors and musicians have died because of the dark alter egos they develop.

Rissa
Rissa

"because of the dark alter egos they develop…" including dabbling with homosexuality when they are straight. that would be the case here with nina & mina's character.

not knocking gay people (because i have gay friends and gay cousins) have you noticed that hollyweird projects the image that sleeping the people of the same gender is as common as heterosexuality? in reality, only 10% of the population is gay; hollyweird caters to the marginal types.

when i saw this movie in the theater, i was pregnant and hormonal. saw it with several sorority sisters (one of which is a lesbian). i must say i was quite uncomfortable with the love scene. it wasn't even very loving, as you can imagine a "love" scene is supposed to be. it felt like r**e in essence.

sushieq
sushieq

It's not 10%, it's 3%. Crazy, huh?

omahadon
omahadon

Nicely done.

It is very important in my mind that Monarch Programming be proven and brought to light. How is this to be done? I myself sit on a fence regarding the truth of this brutal method of behavior control, but only because firm evidence has yet to come to light. The best evidence I can think of is the statement of a programmer, with a list of subjects. Motive must also come into focus on this matter.

Minus evidence, Monarch Programming is as much fantasy as the movies that very evidently allude to it.

The complexity of our reality is beyond the human mind. Systems with generational tradition, or governmental incentive are more capable of unearthing the capacity of personality than the casual observer will entertain. For this reason we must have evidence in order to unwind such a system. Short of this, we are all in the rabbit hole together.

Thanks for your work,

Don

TW
TW

Need to know info:

National Security Agency (NSA)

Citadel of evil

by Steven J. Smith
http://www.whale.to/b/smith_sj_h.html

qwha
qwha

now that i've read the article, way to put it, the entertainment industry definitely brings the black swan out of "their" up and coming girls mostly, maybe boys can't think right now "morning haze" hehehe

AC
AC

Excellent as usual VC!

monica
monica

you forgot the checkered floor in the bathtub scene!

CingIsBelieving
CingIsBelieving

GREAT STUFF!!!!!! I couldnt wait til you wrote this! I just posted my interpretation of this movie on there last night! and i hit the nail on the head! Getting better at picking up on these things.

But honestly after watching this movie I felt so weird….I had alot of emotion afterwards. I was actually able to explain to my boyfriend what is represented.

BTW I was watching Adult Swim last night and they had so much illuminati Referncing on there I had to turn off the TV. They would go to a commercial and come back with something crazy. for instance they had two guys dressed in masonic ceremonial attire and stood between them was an alter and up pops this robot…

hey VC could you please find some info on Cartoon Network and Adult Swim..keep up the great work! <3

DeadMessenger
DeadMessenger

I haven't seen it, but in VC's picture showing the white rabbit, what is the animal in the other window? Is that a lamb? As in "led to slaughter"?

Fast Asleep
Fast Asleep

Looks like a pig to me, not sure. No idea what the meaning/symbolism would be.

camille
camille

also forgot when she sacrifices herself at the end, she literally jumps from an illuminated, incomplete pyramid… when i saw that i was blown away.

Math
Math

One of the best articles you've written so far, for one of the best movies I have watched.

Congrats and keep up the awesome work.

GAbrielle
GAbrielle

Jack was mad they didn't ask him to play the joker?? What nerve? and it showed how coldhearted his programming made him. That is what you say when you hear someone died, "i told you so" very sympathetic and respectful. I seen him in interviews and he looks like death. haggard, tired, and drained. So does Robert dinero. I don't know if he is a victim but he looks horrible, fat, bloated, sluggish, nothing like his"scarface"days. Thank God Robert Dinero still looks good. Sorry went off track.

GAbrielle
GAbrielle

i meant Al PAcino looks like crap.

Claire E
Claire E

I believe that VC was reporting that Jack Nicholson had warned Heath Ledger of the devastating effects of playing such a dark role. Jack Nicholson already played the Joker in Tim Burton's 1989 version of Batman. Read the quote again and try to understand it differently.

Pam K
Pam K

I agree with you, Claire. Jack Nicholson was not mad that he hadn't been asked to play the role. He was mad that he hadn't been "consulted". Very different.

amilovesyou
amilovesyou

I think you might have misread that.. it says that Jack was mad that he wasn't "consulted", which could even have meant because he would have liked to warn whomever off the role earlier than when he was able to, and he was obviously glad he wasn't asked to play the character again by the fact that he "warned" Heath Ledger. 🙂

GAbrielle
GAbrielle

That does make more sense.

TheKnowledge
TheKnowledge

Gabrielle, Jack Nicholson was implying that Heath could not handle the role. He knew that he had got into it so much that it was taking him over. Jack Nicholson could have played the part without destroying himself.

I know it's popular for people to diss all Hollywood stars but some of them like Nicholson have kept their head and themselves together throughout their career. Jack might have been in The Shining but it didn't make him change into the character and he is an actor who has never overdosed on drugs, legal or illegal.

GAbrielle
GAbrielle

It crossed my mind to see but as a Christian i HavE to stay away from horror movies, i used to be obssessed with them. Its funny because Beyonce and Brittany are described as shy off stage, then they are w****s on stage.

LePanda
LePanda

Why do you HAVE to stay away from horror movies??

alisa
alisa

you don't HAVE to stay away from horror films you choose to, as do those living a true life for Christ do. Normally when a Chrisitan feels like they HAVE to do anything because that's what God says, and not because of their love for God, then it's probably time to reevaluate their relationship with Him.

GAbrielle
GAbrielle

The desire has left, but i do find myself sometimes tempted to watch one. My LOVE for him overrides it most of the time. One guy whose daughter was killed by the SEattle Green River mile Killer told the killer at his sentencing "As a Christian he is SUPPOSED TO FORGIVE, and this situation has made it hard to but since the Bible says it he HAS TO" Do you think HIS FLESH wanted to? of course not. That why Christ said pray because the spirit is willing but THE FLESH IS INDEED WEAK. So when i say i have it is true, then God will give you the desire to want to,. But lets be honest and not play the holier than thou card, the flesh is cunning and will TRY to override the spirit.

Mari
Mari

So true!!

tiffy
tiffy

If the desire is gone if that passion to live a life for Christ is gone then how can God's love override the decision to not watch horror flicks or anything else that goes against His word if you're simply doing it because you have to and not because you choose to as a result of the desire and passion you have for Him?

readbetweenthelines
readbetweenthelines

Alisa I have read and heard that our subconscious thoughts affect every living cell on this planet. I've heard from scientists and programmers that they do not watch horror/death movies for this purpose. They say the less people watch horror movies, the less negative energies and thoughts permeating through this society. Not that YOU are going to do something, that you saw in a horror movie, but the thoughts you have when you see one has a direct affect on everything biological. I also believe horror movies numb us like Novocain, to violence and hatred.

GAbrielle
GAbrielle

i used to be one of those kids at 5 watching horror movies by myself, never had a nightmare, The more blood, grotesque, gore the more i loved it until i got truly born again at the age of 28. As a child of God you are not supposed to let evil be a form of entertainment besides the spirits that are behind these movies. I had a rage problem and i fouind myself having vivid scenes of murder, just plain brutality against the person i was made at. It was uncontrollable rage. I assure you i was one of those people that could have committed a "crime of passion" All those years of mentally and spiritually absorbing scenes of murder, rage, violence, everything evil finally took its tool. Im not saying this is the case for every horror movie fanatic but for me it was and it was a spirit. No, i wasn't possessed, but i can say influenced like many people. One guy put it bluntly"Why should the Devil's kids entertain God's."

Bay State Observer
Bay State Observer

GAbrielle, permit me to recommend the book “Monsters From The Id: The Rise of Horror In Fiction and Film”. It was published in the year 2000 by Spence Publishing Company of Dallas, Texas. If I’m not mistaken, it is still in print

It is written by Dr. E. Michael Jones, editor of the controversial magazine Culture Wars and it’s predecessor Fidelity. I don’t agree with everything he’s written in this book, nor in the magazines he has edited. But when he’s on the money, he’s on the money.

Here is the link to the “most helpful favorable review” of this book, according to Amazon.com.:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R369CU3P2L6L7T/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R369CU3P2L6L7T

I have read this book three times myself. Dr. Jones has convinced me of his thesis. After reading this detailed book, I believe you might be convinced also.

Thank you for your time and attention.

GAbrielle
GAbrielle

From the review it sounds interesting. Never thought about from that perspective.

Nova
Nova

Bay Stae Observer- that was an interesting article/review you put up. It makes me want to analyze my relationship with horror films. As i kid i would watch some horror films from time to time. Some freaked me out, some bored me. I use to get creeped out by strange things i guess. Like i remember watching "children of the corn" and being freaked out by that but I watched all the "Friday the 13" movies with only mild intrest and maybe an overly critical analysis of the fake blood they used. Now as an adult though i find myself very squimish and I can't stand horror movies. Even the black swan and a few bloody scenes that i couldnt tolerate. Yes, i was hiding my eyes while watching the black swan! Maybe it's because I was a virgin when i was young and now that im no longer a virgin, horror movies freak me out. Well, i guess that's probably not it. You just take things more seriously as an adult and reading vigilant citizen all the time has made me hyper aware of movies where humans are being ripped limb from limb. But it is a very interesting… Read more »

Mia
Mia

LOL. Are you serious? Honey, God doesn't give a crap what you watch, as long as you are a good person. It's just entertainment.

You sound like one of those "crazy Christians" everyone laughs at. When did this site get overrrun with all these "JESUS SAAAVES!" types anyhow?

me
me

. . . . . . . "as long as you are a good person" . . . . . . . . . . . .

*be nice*

ELLE
ELLE

Yes, he does care what you watch.

Psalm101:3 – I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; [it] shall not cleave to me.

You do not own the site, the "holier than thous" have as much right to be here as you. If you are offended you can leave, no one is holding a gun to your head.

James Wilder
James Wilder

You're kidding, right? I guess you don't quite understand the message Vigilant is trying to convey with his website… This evil medium–The Media–The mediaTOR is attempting to poison us with this type of "entertainment." The Illuminati/occult/secret societies are ACTIVE participants in this war in 'the heavens.' It's not just about a few power hungry people hell-bent on control of the masses….this goes much further with the ultimate goal of "ascension" for an elite few. This is a spiritual war…I was raised by these 'illumined ones' and let me tell you from experience…There isn't an ATHEIST among them. They are well aware of the spiritual implications of their choice.

Are you?

camille
camille

i always appreciate your insights and comments on this site.

jokes
jokes

it's more about the kind of stuff you fill your consciousness with

it makes it much more challenging to live a life of compassion

when watching people torture other people as a form of entertainment

or music that encourages adultery, jealousy, envy and greed

one chooses not to partake in such information because it's spiritually draining and emotionally toxic

it's like choosing not to consume transfats because they are nutritionally nefarious

it's not explicitly forbidden in the Revelation, but it's obviously unhealthy,

so why subject yourself to it?

that being said, i saw the movie, and i like lady gaga, and i recognize this makes devotional practice more difficult, still i enjoy the stuff enough to justify to myself, though i know better.

we humans are fun