Sinister Sites – Temple Square, Utah

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Situated at the heart of Salt Lake City, Utah, Temple Square is the spiritual, cultural and administrative center of the Mormon faith.  This ten acres plot of land includes a Temple, a domed tabernacle and numerous buildings,  monuments and memorials. While this place may seem holy and wholesome, a closer look at the structures reveal the presence of occult, pagan and masonic symbols. A deeper study of those grounds only adds to the controversy regarding Mormonism and reveals the disturbing truth about its real god.

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Creepy…

This article’s intent is not to condemn Mormonism as a faith, but rather  to analyze the symbols in Temple Square in an objective matter. A visitor of this religious area finds himself surrounded with symbols esoterically associated with Black Magic, evil or ancient paganism. Why are these symbols visible on supposedly Christian buildings, of all places? Many ex-Mormons have claimed that the LDS secretly leads followers to the worship of Lucifer. Are they right?

The Temple

The Temple is the centerpiece of Temple Square and acts as the heart of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The building itself is stern and imposing and surrounded with many sculptures. It is said to accomplish the same functions as the ancient Temple of Jerusalem. While we can write pages on how this is not true, we’ll focus on the structure itself.

Temple Square

Inverted Pentagram

The exterior of the Temple contains numerous symbols which are not simply remnants of ancient paganism but directly associated with evil. The most blatant symbol is the inverted pentagram.

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This symbol is found all around Temple Square, in multiple forms. An upright pentagram stands for the five elements, protection against malignant spirits and is an embodiment of the Golden Proportion. It also signifies the dominance of the divine spirit on the lower nature of Man. Conversely, an upside down pentagram represents the submission of the spirit to matter and the submission of man to his lowest impulses.

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Eliphas Levi’s rendering of the upright and inverted pentagram. Contrarily to popular belief, Levi did not come up with the use of the inverted pentagram as a negative symbol. It was used in ritual magick centuries before the publication of his work.


“The pentagram with one point upwards repels evil, but a reversed pentagram, with two points upwards, is a symbol of the Devil and attracts sinister forces because it is upside down and because it stands for the number 2. It represents the great Goat of the witches’ sabbath and the two upward points are the Goat’s horn.”
-Richard Cavendish, The Black Arts

Sun, Moon and Stars

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The walls of the Temple bear Sun stones, phases of the moon and stars (in the form of inverted pentagrams). Those three celestial bodies can be found in ancient pagan temples and their use can be traced back to the times of Baal Worship. Through Mystery Religion, occult orders like the Freemasons have preserved those symbols and still apply them on their own monuments.

All Seeing-Eye

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This classic masonic symbol representing the “Great Architect” is right on the facade of the Temple. It is surrounded by glory and a veil. It most probably represents the initiatic process of the Mormon Church, which is very similar to the one Freemasons go through.

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Secret Handshake

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Like Freemasons, Mormons learn secret handshakes and passwords during their initiation process. This handshake is on the facade of the Temple and is similar to the handshakes portrayed on Masonic buildings and monuments such as this one:

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On top of the handshake is the saying “I am Alpha and Omega”, which is taken from the Book of Revelation. It can be translated as “I am the beginning and the end”. The fact that it is placed on top of the handshake, the symbol representing LDS’s secret doctrine, makes me wonder who is the Alpha and Omega.

Baptismal Font

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Each Mormon Temple has its own baptismal font, mounted on the backs of twelve life-size oxen.  Mormons say it is modeled after the “laver” which was situated at the entrance of Solomon’s Temple. The only thing they’ve forgotten to mention is that the laver was used by priests to clean themselves after animal sacrifices (laver means “to clean”). It was not used to baptize people. It was certainly not used for the “baptism of the dead”, a Mormon practice where deceased people become posthumously part of the Mormon church. Numerous scandalous baptisms have taken place where, for example, holocaust victims were baptized without the family’s consent. More recently, Barak Obama’s mother, who died of cancer has been baptized by the Mormons without consent. There is no trace of this disturbing practice in ancient Christianity or Judaism. Ex-Mormons who have witnessed these ceremonies say the rituals dwell in the fields of witchcraft and spirit invocation.

 

Museum of Church History and Art

This museum displays exhibits celebrating the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its history. You can find information about their migration, settlements, and the men who have served as prophets and presidents from 1830 to the present. There is also a special kid’s corner. What better place to display…inverted pentagrams?

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Entrance of the Museum

Inverted Pentagrams

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These two pentagrams appear at the entrance of the Museum of Church History and Art. Once again, it is important to stress the significance of this symbol as it is the equivalent of placing an upside-down cross right on a church.

“In symbolism, an inverted figure always signifies a perverted power. The average person does not even suspect the occult properties of emblematic pentacles.”
-Manly P. Hall, Secret Teachings of All Ages

The circled pentagram on the left is particularly significant due to the fact that it is used in Black Magick rituals.

“The black magician cannot use the symbols of white magic without bringing down upon himself the forces of white magic, which would be fatal to his schemes. He must therefore distort the hierograms so that they typify the occult fact that he himself is distorting the principles for which the symbols stand. Black magic is not a fundamental art; it is the misuse of an art. Therefore it has no symbols of its own. It
merely takes the emblematic figures of white magic, and by inverting and reversing them signifies that it is left-handed.

The pentagram is used extensively in black magic, but when so used its form always differs in one of three ways: The star may be broken at one point by not permitting the converging lines to touch; it may be inverted by having one point down and two up; or it may be distorted by having the points of varying lengths. When used in black magic, the pentagram is called the “sign of the cloven hoof,” or the footprint of the Devil. The star with two points upward is also called the “Goat of Mendes,” because the inverted star is the same shape as a goat’s head.”
– Op. Cit

We can find more pentagrams in the museum in…the kid’s corner.

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The Visitor’s Center

The Visitor’s Center is a tourist favorite but contains the most disturbing symbolism of Temple Square. It basically reveals the real object of worship of Mormonism.

Christus Statue

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The Christus Statue is said to be the icon of the LDS Church and is dramatically displayed in the Visitor’s Center. It is a replica of Bertel Thorvaldsen’s  Christus in Copenhagen, Denmark. The Mormon version is placed in front of an unusual setting: the universe. This might refer to the Gnostic concept of “cosmic Christ”.

One detail is however striking and unusual. You might know that one of the most basic ways to analyze a work of art is through the relation between light and shadow. Well in this setting, the Christus figure is actually casting a shadow on planet Earth. Isn’t Jesus considered the “Light of World”? Casting a shadow on something symbolically means that is it keeping it in darkness and ignorance. If this figure of Jesus isn’t the source of light, what is then? The answer lies within the rotunda of the Visitor’s Center.

The Rotunda

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The rotunda faces the Christus statue and bears a special kind of inverted pentagram.

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Inverted pentagram with elongated bottom point

The bottom point of the pentagram is elongated. This detail which goes unnoticed by most visitors carries heavy occult meaning. First, the irregular length of the bottom point represents a perversion of the power of Good. Second, this particular pentagram, with the bottom point falling down carries a precise esoteric meaning: the fall of Lucifer, the Fallen Angel, the Morning Star.

“When the upright star turns and the upper point falls to the bottom, it signifies the fall of the Morning Star.”
-Manly P. Hall, Secret Teachings of All Ages

After establishing this fact, the light and shadow riddle can easily be solved. Lucifer, the light bearer, is considered the source of light of the universe. The figure representing Jesus Christ blocks the source of light on Earth and thus meaning that Christianity has an obscuring effect on mankind. So this setup, who apparently celebrates the coming of Christ on Earth represents in actuality the exact opposite.

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The elite of the LDS in front of Christus

Throughout history, all spiritual currents have regarded light as being the ultimate representation of good, truth, beauty, knowledge and divine wisdom. In all religious art, the source of light is of an utmost importance. Some ex-Mormons have claimed that the LDS worships Lucifer in subtle yet deceitful ways. The symbolism in place sure does corroborate their testimonies.

Cain Offering

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Cain’s offering

Another strange feature of the Visitor’s Center is the above arrangement: Adam and Eve kneeling in front of an altar which has fruit on it. This is a reference to Genesis IV, which describes the offerings of Cain and Able to God.

“1. And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering.

5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

6 And the lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted: and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door: and unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

8 And Cain talked with Abet his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.”
-Genesis, Chapter IV

To sum up the story, Cain and Abel were the sons of Adam and Eve.  Abel was in charge of sheep, while Cain took care of the ground. When it was time to give offerings to God, Abel slew a lamb in sacrifice while Cain gave fruit. God accepted Abel’s gift but rejected Cain’s fruit (the reason for this is unclear). Cain then lost his tempter and ultimately killed his brother.

The sculpture displayed at the LDS church portrays Adam and Eve offering fruit to God while a lamb (Abel’s gift) sits there alive and enjoying its non-sacrificed state. One can’t help but wonder: what does this piece represent if not a sense of resentment (maybe even defiance) towards a cruel and unjust god? Why do we portray Cain’s offering which was rejected by God? The meaning of this arrangement falls right into the beliefs of Luciferians, who see God as a stubborn tyrant. Biblical and mythological figures who defy God are celebrated by the Luciferian doctrine (see the article on the Rockefeller Center). Lucifer, the light-bearer is considered to be the hidden savior of humanity who brought the gift of godliness to humans.

Eagle Gate

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Situated at the corner of State St. and South Temple, the Eagle gate is yet another occurrence of an inverted pentagram. We can find on top of it a huge 200-pound eagle clawing a beehive, the symbol of Utah, of Mormonism and coincidentally an important symbol of Freemasonry.

In Conclusion

This article barely scratches the surface on the occult symbols found at Temple Square. There are numerous esoteric concepts that can be studied such as reflective pools (who embody the notion of “As Above so Below”), phallic and yonic symbols, astronomical references to Saturn and many more. Without even having previous knowledge of the history, philosophy or beliefs of the LDS, a symbol-literate person can grasp the core intent of this church by reading the meaning of their art. The rituals, symbols, and modus-operandi of the LDS are directly lifted from Scottish Rite Masonry. The hidden meaning of the art at Temple Square incorporates a mix of pagan and subversive symbolism and subtly celebrates the worship of Lucifer.

I do not claim to be a specialist of Mormonism or of Joseph Smith Jr., the Mormon prophet. I’ve tried to stay as unbiased as possible in the research and composition of this article.  I, however, know that the scriptures warn the world against false prophets and, from what I’ve gathered, Joseph Smith is as false as it gets.  I hate to be the one to say it, but someone has to. Stay vigilant.


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@MormonGirl

You said: " We like to remember the life of Jesus Christ, not his death."

His death was the most remarkable thing about him. He died for the sins of humanity, and then ROSE FROM THE DEAD. If he hadn't died on the cross, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. That's possibly the single most asinine statement I've ever heard from anyone claiming to be a follower of Christ: " We like to remember the life of Jesus Christ, not his death."

Really? Really. Wow.

Cindy
Cindy

John 17:17 says "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth." If you look to God's word, it clearly states at Exodus 20:4 (one of the 10 commandments) "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:…" The use of "any" images is forbidden! Birds, Stars, Moons, fish, and yes, even crosses! There is no excuse to why using any image is acceptable! Plain and simple! 2Corinthians 5:7 says: "For we walk by faith, not by sight:" Why do those who profess to be Christians choose to use images of Jesus Christ as a helpless baby in a manger, or a dying man on a cross (stake) instead of seeing him with eyes of faith as a Glorious King in heaven, seated at the right hand of his Father? Interestingly, Romans 1:22 & 23 says: "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools , 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things." I could… Read more »

Richard Lefew
Richard Lefew

Very interesting article. I was brought up Mormon, and I've done babtisms for the dead. I was too young to understand any of it, and was basically just doing as I was told. They don't really even give you that much information on the ceremony or it's purpose, beyond the most simple 3 minute explanation. I haven't been to church in 20 years, and I never really believed the dogma, but I never imagined it was a luciferian, or satanic organization. I actually believed that overall, the church had a net positive affect on its members. Things like maintaining a pure body ("word of wisdom" doctine..no drink/smoke/coffee, etc.), the 10 commandments, pure mind, etc. That's what I learned in church. I never learned anything from that church that was in anyway anti-social, or what I would call evil. Certainly nothing ever resembling anything satanic, or black magic. I thought the ward (individual congregations) activities and programs were good in many ways. In a world were nobody bothers following any kind of a moral compass, I look at a group like the mormons, and from my perspective, I think they are A-O.K. They have a brotherhood/sisterhood that breeds a since of… Read more »

Ken
Ken

There are plenty of books available in most public libraries, written by Mormon professors and authorities detailing the symbology and the meanings behind them. Please finish your research by talking to actual Mormons to balance those that have an issue with the Church. Then you can claim true journalistic credentials… right now, this article is not balanced and not well researched… and leads anyone with a logical and analytic thought process to begin to question the informaton on the rest of the sites you have here…. read the books, at a minimum, as I did… and then enlighten us with your new and well documented journalistic reportings. Thanks!

LIBRA
LIBRA

I also want to add that we live in a Luciferian world,we always have since the begining of time,some people don't want to realize it or admit it,but it is true,the english language was created for the purpose of using it for a one world language,it has messages that you don't even realize when you speak it,we preform rituals daily to worship "the gods",from our sports, to music ,to religion,etc. We have to realize this, and understand it, our spirit comes from the light but our bodies in this reality do not.

world3info
world3info

Anyone wondering what is true and what is not, instead of relying on anonymous people on the internet, get on your knees and ask God.

Believer of God
Believer of God

with the story of Cain and Abel, God rejected Cain's offering because He asked them to bring the best of their offerings, in which Abel brought the whitest and purest of his fold while Cain kept the best for himself and gave God the second best. Just clearing it up for u. 🙂

The not-christian be
The not-christian be

Well, The thing is that Cain ofered some flowers to god, because he didn´t have animals for a sacrifice, but god prefered the sacrifice ofered by Abel, and ignored Cain´s. Then, he saw that god prefers sacrifices, and gave him his brother; after that, god was so hipocrit and blamed him, after seting on him a defense seal. You can read it in Genesis…

xD

Believe
Believe

Mormons do not allow anyone of another faith in their churches, but you (Awake and Pissed/Ken) expect that speaking to Mormons will elicit honest insight into what we are seeing on, and in, these buildings? You are very naive if you actually think that Vigilant would get honest and forthcoming information by such an approach.

Do you think that speaking to catholic priests, bishops, cardinals, or the pope will get information on why Catholic Churches have occult imagery?

I think when some people SEE something that unsettles them, they attempt to look anywhere and to anyone to discount what they have seen. They want an acceptable reason for its existence. If you are truly "awake" you will see that religion is an institution of control that empowers those that wield its devices. I am not saying one should be an atheist, but your faith should allow you to discount those things that are man-made artifices.

Look for yourself, don't expect truthful answers when you ask hard questions, and do your own research.

KUEST.THREE.SEVEN.TW
KUEST.THREE.SEVEN.TW

mormons.lol theyre not christians. and im sorry i dnt believe whoever he was john sumthng was a prophet.just someone that bent wat the bible said then wrote his own book. they read the book of mormons more than the holy bible. vigilantcitizen this was great. i remember my mother would argue with the mormons everytime they knocked at our door.lol she'd leave them speachless. grab her bible and school them kids.lol i gotta put this page on fb. lol

Veritas Visio
Veritas Visio

Its weird….I mean, its horrible that they do this…but its highly offensive that they do it so openly. They stayed in secret for so long over so many years, and someone I guess needed attention. Typical spoiled brats. Eventually, this will become common knowledge. They know this, that's why they they're so blatent now, which is funny because with all the "power" they posess, they are scared, and panick often. But….yet, they still exsist so touché bastards

tessa
tessa

i honestly believe its how you use symbols, the way illuminati use it is just creepy and dosent feel good. The mormon church is all about agency, they want you to pray and ask God before you join, they want you to have your own testimony not leaning on others.

SuperNeutrality
SuperNeutrality

“We are walking by faith, not by sight.”—2 Corinthians 5:7. Also, “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like anything that is in the heavens above or that is on the earth underneath or that is in the waters under the earth." – Exodus 20:4 What is God telling us by these two scriptures? That, in order to live a life acceptable to HIS (not our own) standards, we must cultivate faith from the heart. It is also implied that symbols are not needed. With that in mind, one has to ask oneself, "why do most religions adorn their buildings and festivals with symbols, especially similar, parallel symbols? The answer? Because most religions have their roots in Babylon (hence the term "Babylon the Great" in Revelation 18, aka. the world empire of false religion). Babylon was where Nimrod, "a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah" started the first "civilisation", or tried to rule over others and organise society as we now know it. He wanted people to congregate in cities (which went against God's purpose to spread throughout the earth and to cultivate it into a paradise), as it is easier to control people when they… Read more »

dave
dave

"You only see what you're looking for."

R2d2s4
R2d2s4

I agree that he was just bringing up facts. But you do realize that all the facts he brought up all had something to do with satanic religion, or evil influence. You are given facts, just not all of them.

Seeker (Caribbean)
Seeker (Caribbean)

Why are there any imagines in any Christian Church? Exodus 20 vs

4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

So I ask myself why are there any images in any church? Because their are many distortions of Christianity but I agree some are outright evil.

J Sto
J Sto

Well most of us would agree on this site that Masonic symbols do in fact appear at the Temple which OBVIOUSLY shows that there is a connection between the two. This being said, I read an article by an Ex 33rd Degree Mason which stated that once a person reaches the 33rd degree they cannot use the name Jesus nor study the Bible. So explain to me why this ONE faith cannot be studied but every other faith can be. Could it be possible that they know the truth? Can any of you that will deny my facts say with 100% confidence that its BS? I would be careful with your answer because there will be eternal consequences.

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and man.

Stalwart
Stalwart

@ George and Everyone else….why not? Almost all of the symbolism in the christian church came about through the Roman Empire and it’s take over of many peoples. I will cite several examples…. The evergreen tree.. This was NOT from , as george put it “nimrod’s wife planted…yada yada”… In fact there are several Pliable theories, yours not included…. 1)late in the Middle Ages, Germans and Scandinavians placed evergreen trees inside their homes or just outside their doors to show their hope that spring would soon come… An act to the sun god for winter solstice..which is also where December 25th hails…. 2) In 722, Saint Boniface encountered some pagans who were about to sacrifice a child at the base of a huge oak tree. He cut down the tree to prevent the sacrifice and a Fir tree grew up at the base of the oak. He then told everyone that this lovely evergreen, with its branches pointing to heaven, was a holy tree – the tree of the Christ child, and a symbol of His promise of eternal life. Easter bunny or egg symbols are born of Roman pagan tradition….Fordicidia or the fertility festival. the calendar as we now… Read more »

Leon
Leon

I think that geroge was referring to a referrence work by one Alexander Hislop. I had to look it. Here it is (from The Two Babylons chapter three): The Christmas tree, now so common among us, was equally common in Pagan Rome and Pagan Egypt. In Egypt that tree was the palm-tree; in Rome it was the fir; the palm-tree denoting the Pagan Messiah, as Baal-Tamar, the fir referring to him as Baal-Berith. The mother of Adonis, the Sun-God and great mediatorial divinity, was mystically said to have been changed into a tree, and when in that state to have brought forth her divine son. If the mother was a tree, the son must have been recognised as the "Man the branch." And this entirely accounts for the putting of the Yule Log into the fire on Christmas-eve, and the appearance of the Christmas-tree the next morning. As Zero-Ashta, "The seed of the woman," which name also signified Ignigena, or "born of the fire," he has to enter the fire on "Mother-night," that he may be born the next day out of it, as the "Branch of God," or the Tree that brings all divine gifts to men. But why,… Read more »

Daniel
Daniel

I was raised a Mormon and never really noticed these symbols around the temple. I remember some of them now, but since I was only a kid at the time, never studied or thought much about them. However that's all in the past now, as that religion no longer felt right for me. Thanks for the informative article.

cora
cora

great article, like always :] while reading some comments, i cant help but notice the people saying how heaven is the only place where we can be away from this evil. one of my favorite songs, basically says just that. not meaning to troll, but gamma ray-dethrone tyranny 's lyrics are PERFECT. look em up. heres a link to youtube to the whole song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOS0ax8RBrw

my favorite part of the song happens to be

"Illuminati

You'll never take control

Your new world order

Will lead to none at all

We all stand before you as one

Heaven is for everyone

To be free from the dark"

😀

MaxBlack
MaxBlack

I often think to myself what if Christ is Satan and Satan is Christ? What a deception, what a lie, what a reality to then realize that all of religion was false and contrived figment of men seeking to control the masses while mind controlling the masses to believe a false hood that imprisons the mind instead of freeing mans soul to more lofty heights. The Catholic Church and what we think of Christianity has been created to control the masses. Such a mind trick is so evil as to leave me unable to describe my horror to think, just to think that perhaps they might be right. Perhaps it is all mixed up and it mixed up because those that did this evil need the division to keep control over those that never question what they are told so long as it came from the word of God. Oh well, time will reveal this mystery to us all. Of that I am confident.

Lilly
Lilly

Good article. I think this might answer the mystery behind why "Cain's gift was rejected by God"
http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/serpent-seedl
🙂

Val
Val

There is also an inverted star in the corner made of stars in the picture with jesus casting a shadow on the world.

LoveThyNeighbor
LoveThyNeighbor

I am a member of the LDS church, although no longer active. I'll admit that it is due to a few things I am not ready to believe in. Having said that, until you have actually been inside a Temple and seen with your own eyes what goes on, you really don't know what goes on. You cannot make judgments based on what someone says, because that is heresay. Whether a religious organization is true or not true, we can all agree that people have faults. It is best not to confuse a person for a religion as a whole. Not all mormons are a**holes. Yes, some are. So are some catholics, jehovah's witnesses, baptists, etc. Because people aren't perfect. You're going to punish the whole class because one pupil was talking out of turn? C'mon. As far as I have studied personally, and by studied I mean attended, read, and spoke different religions, each religious organization/religion has flaws. Each one has a flaw that is obvious to anyone. Whether it is a deal breaker to you or not, that is up to each individual. There is no good from hating others. Too many people want to point fingers, judge,… Read more »

anonymous
anonymous

Symbols are just that–representations of other things. The meanings are only what we give them and do not have actual meaning in and of themselves. To claim that people are worshipping or representing evil by the symbols they use without knowing that to be a fact is admitting that we do not know the true definition of the word "symbol". Cultural Dictionary

symbol definition

An object or name that stands for something else, especially a material thing that stands for something that is not material. The bald eagle is a symbol of the United States of America. The cross is a symbol of Christianity. The Star of David is a symbol of Judaism.

symbol definition

Something that represents or suggests something else. Symbols often take the form of words, visual images, or gestures that are used to convey ideas and beliefs. All human cultures use symbols to express the underlying structure of their social systems, to represent ideal cultural characteristics, such as beauty, and to ensure that the culture is passed on to new generations. Symbolic relationships are learned rather than biologically or naturally determined, and each culture has its own symbols.

See also :http://amateurscriptorians.blogspot.com/2009/06/language-of-symbolsm.html

Eythan
Eythan

Very good article, thank you Vigilant Citizen!

As for the rejection of Cain's offering, it is now clear for Christians, that it wasn't accepted by God because He wanted a specific type of offering, and before everything it was Cain's attitude that was proud and full of rebellion that made God to refuse his offering. =)

Peace.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Some of these comment are rather sickening. If everybody just stopped ripping eachother, and there religions and beliefs, or non-beliefs apart, the world would be a much nicer place to be in. There is absolutely no need for all this 'my religion is better than yours' business. Could we all just get along, for once?

ThinkingForever
ThinkingForever

The amount of vitriol that we generate in the name of religion is amazing. It always seems to have the same pattern though. "Your God is better than mine", "Our is the one and only true faith.","You will be cast to hell for your sin of being a non-believer", etc,etc……… Well just a little suggestion, why don't we just make sure to do as little evil and not hate and discriminate as much as possible? As far as I have seen, blind faith tends to do far more harm than good……..It leads to discrimination, wars and bloodshed. Both our heaven and hell are present on this earth…..It is only we who decide whether our life will become heaven or hell………………………..

Anonymous
Anonymous

Well said!

SuperNeutrality
SuperNeutrality

Again, we are supposed to be walking by faith, not by sight, but then again, faith is not the possession of all people. Nevertheless, I must confess that to do otherwise than contribute constructively to a forum is deemed bad manners, to put it lightly. How would you know what other people do, outside this forun? Isn't it presumptuous of you to critisise others when you do not know anyone else here, nor if and what they do to assist others in their awakening or in other areas of life? I have no doubt in my mind that there are persons of all faiths who are corrupt as well as persons in all faiths who are trying their best in life, including atheism, which also takes faith to NOT believe in a creator, sometimes more so, in fact, when you consider the realities of life. Just go to this video of Molecular Visualisations of DNA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PKjF7OumYo to see an example of how little we really know. In the meantime, when on a forum which discusses religious topics, kindly remember to not abuse your audience by telling them to refer to "facts" AS OPPOSED TO "scriptures", as though they are diametrically… Read more »

Read Joseph Campbell
Read Joseph Campbell

As always, great article VC. This is my first time to comment but I felt I actually needed to spread some insight into a subject the religious folk on here seem hell bent (pun intented) on bringing up over and over. Cain and Able (like all passages in the bible and any other version, doctored or not) is a metaphor for something either relevant to the past, present or future, or even a 'divine truth' antrhropomorphized as something else. That being said Cain and Able represent the duality of early man. In all cultures there is this duality being represented by those who were the hunters (or in this case a herder) and those who were planters and lived off the earth. – see the Iroquois legend of flint the hunter and Sprout or plant boy. In the biblical tradition, the plant boy is Cain and the hunter (herder) is Abel. In the bible you have the herder against the planter, and the planter is the abominated one. This is an old myth of the hunting/herding people who came into a planting culture world and denigrated the people in which they conquered. If u study the bible without taking things… Read more »

Read Joseph Campbell
Read Joseph Campbell

Also, concerning the use of symbols as either negative or positive and the fantasy ideal that a "symbol can mean whatever the viewer wants or feels it to" is pure ignorance. Let me ask those who think this way a simple question.. If our stop and go signs were suddenly interchanged with dollar signs and radioactive signs all the time, how would we be able to tell them apart? The world would be in worse disarray then those who shape our opinions would like us to believe it already is. Symbols may mean something entirely different from one person to another based on their education in this subject, but that does not deter the fact that our subconscious is tapped into the great Consciousness that makes up the Universe and is affected by these subliminally whether you recognize it or not. Fortunately there is something to be said in the fact that we can personally change the effects of said symbolism as to how it affects our psyche, but only after knowing its original power and intent can we render these inert. Our mind is the most powerful machine available and it is sad that there is only a small… Read more »

Alexandra
Alexandra

Remember the reference to honey and bees in Lady Gaga's "Telephone" video?

You go to Utah and the state route signs are in the shape of beehives. Utah is known as the Beehive State.

okkemccar vincent
okkemccar vincent

The truth of the matter is that i was baptize in to this church when i was 8(eight) because that is the year any child born in the church will be baptize. The called them CHILD OF RECORD. But i don't know how true this is. I need someone to educate me beyond this line. Infact i have leave the church because i was told by my mummy that it is an ocultic church that i should stop going there. Well that was when i was a 15 yrs but now that ' am 20 and now want to face life am planning going back to the church because i love the worship, maybe i didn't know any thing about the church as a kid but with this now am getting all confused please i need help and more explanation. thanks

SuperNeutrality
SuperNeutrality

If you truly want answers to your questions, feel free to email me at SuperNeutrality @ gmail . com (no spaces).

Alternatively, feel free to browse the website http://www.watchtower.org, where there are countless articles to research on a range of subjects.

Whatever the case, remember that God has said, "you must love God with your whole heart and whole mind", etc. This involves your free will. Hence, you should ask questions and get satisfying answers and it is your decision whether to pursue a course or not. Please weigh it carefully, as it has an impact on your life as well as your happiness, whichever way you decide to go.

All the best.

Bella
Bella

This disturbed me just as much as the Denver Airport Conspiracy.

LoverOfChrist
LoverOfChrist

The apparent thing here is that everyone has their own opinion and their own argument, which is good. No HIVE mind, yet. However, if you read the Protocols Of Zion you'll see that one of the biggest agendas is to pit one against another. We our of ONE WORLD, created by ONE GOD! Yet we have 192 "United Nations" (Vatican City isn't one of them.. hmmm…). From that we have confrontation; Left vs Right.. North vs South.. East vs West.. Blacks against Whites against Hispanics against Asians against (yes, that is still a problem), religion against religion, school against school, team against team, all the way down to city block vs city block. It's retarded. Nobody's going to ever be able to completely accept each other's difference and UNITE for the common GOOD, without bringing in their own pride or negativity for "the way things should be". That's why it's going to just get easier and easier for the ELITE who ARE united to DIVIDE AND CONQUER! We gotta stop this hate. We have to stop defending things just because they pertain to us, then be just as quick to attack something because it goes against what you believe in.… Read more »

Jacob
Jacob

I am a member of the LDS church, and wish to give my opinion. If you were the devil, where would you focus most of your efforts in destroying God's work? You would focus on perverting God's teachings and God's churches. Every religion is so horribly and grotesquely perverted by the devil, the LDS church is just another church that has been infiltrated so severely it is disgraceful. Particularly because God chose Joseph Smith to try to restore Christ's true church, because all other churches had become so horribly corrupted, but alas, again the fate of Christ's church became perversion by the devil.

Dani
Dani

Whoa, thanks for posting this.

parrlynn
parrlynn

I live in Salt Lake. Been here three years. I visited Temple Square about a year ago. Although there was religious slander thrown all over, not once did I feel holy walking there. Great work capturing the symbols. I think I might take a walk there soon and take some pictures for myself.

THANK YOU.

Travin
Travin

I am a mormon. I'm now 21 years of age, I grew up in a mormon family and we were all sealed together in the temple and my parents are still together and everything. I do see you pointing out some strange symbols here that do look like pentagrams and etc.. Not really sure what to make of them. but all I know is, I was very rebellious growing up and started running with the crowd when I was about 16.. well this is when my life began to go down hill.. my spirit was starting to wither and die like a dry reed, it really was like that! So a long time of living in misery. I fogot about god and the church. I just figured I would go along with everyone else beliving in nothing and that we came from apes. well I found no joy in life whatsoever. beliving in this idea of nothinness was hoplessness.. I finally needed to find my own answers. It was in my life all along! The Book of Mormon and the bible. so anyway, I had a job woking as a night watchman at a farm and had plenty of time… Read more »

oracle
oracle

Please, please, please do your research before you write any article. I would like to say, before I relay the facts which are easily found on the web, that a symbol is a subjective thing. You may see it as a sign of evil doings, but if the user believes otherwise, then your personal imposition of its meaning is useless. It means what it means to them so live with it. that said, look at the full history of these symbols and you'll find that they are anything but sinister at all until organised religion got its hands on them. Firstly, the pentagram which has existed for countless thousands of years, first dating back to around 3500 BC where it was used in Ancient Mesopotamia, at least latterly, by rulers as a symbol indicating that their power breadth the four corners of the known world. The early Greeks called the pentagram the Pentalpha. Pent for the number five and Alpha being the first letter of the Greek alphabet. The Pythagoreans considered its geometric qualities to be symbolic, both mathematically and metaphysically, of absolute perfection. To the Hebrews the five points of the pentagram were tied to the Pentateuch which is… Read more »

NotAfraid
NotAfraid

Oracle you may be right as Satan is the author of confusion, and even the symbols have double meanings.

Knowing that these symbols are both meant for white and black is another good reason to stay away from them.

A christian or person for that matter does not need any symbols, idols or representations of anything!

We worship in Spirit and in Truth, this is what pleases G-d the father.

Reflect on why you defend these symbols and representations, as a former catholic I can tell you it is better to be FREE in Christ, than be enslaved to man made superstition and idolatry.

David
David

Excellent article! I've had my doubts about the Mormon Faith, I did my research and we both got the same answers. So as you said they are as false a they get

spiritual girl
spiritual girl

@ mormongirl… "We have no secret handshakes or secret initiation practices– that’s just ridiculous!"

The beginning of this article says, "Many ex-Mormons have claimed that the LDS secretly leads followers to the worship of Lucifer." Notice the word 'secretly' … one definition of the word being: kept from the knowledge of any but the initiated or privileged.

your religion telling you the upside down star means "god's blessings being poured down on you" or whatever … its like when adults tell children that a stork drops babies off at your doorstep when they ask, 'where to babies come from?'

LoverOfChrist
LoverOfChrist

First of all I'd like to acknowledge anyone who stands up for their faith. Nowadays, not too many people try to defend their religion; so let me take a crack at it. Please keep in mind, I'm not doing this to make anybody feel bad.. or harass them. I'm simply doing this to expose flaws in the aforementioned and to hopefully do my part to make sure people are not being fooled. I am a Christian. I believe in what the Bible says. If you do too, MormonGirl, I suggest you pay attention to this. Through constant studying of both the Holy Bible (KJV) and beliefs of other doctrines, you would know that there are many out there to taint religion, infiltrate the TRUE Church (Col 1:18, I Cor 12:12-14; Matt 18:19-20; Matt 16:18) or impersonate Jesus himself (Matthew 24:5). Let's start with tainting Christianity. I'm sure you've heard the argument before, so I apologize if I seem repetitive but I really hope this helps anyone out there see the true nature of what they're following; Mormon doctrine contradicts the Bible. "Also, we do not believe in the Holy Trinity as one being– we believe that Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ,… Read more »

LoverOfChrist
LoverOfChrist

Also, you should look up Externalization and Desensitization. I'm not talking about the basic terms either. I mean, in regards to a NWO, the Anti-Christ, etc. You'll see that being accustomed to this sort of symbolism will fool you when "Christ" returns. I'm sure you'll see this very same symbolism everywhere when that time comes.

Wise One
Wise One

@LOVEROF CHRIST you are 100% correct that the LDS Doctrines contradict the Holy Bible. In addition, the shocking thing to even LDS to realized for themselves is that the LDS Doctrine contradict The Book of Mormon!

THE BOM is a fraud but the fiction has truths in the principals and is not evil by any means.

BOM testifies of the trinity not that God was once a man like us….who lives in Kolob

BOM is agaisnt secret combinations (witchcraft, secret societies, secret tokens, shakes etc anything in darkness or secretive)

BOM is against Satan all the way! Has protestant views as Joseph mother became a Methodist.

THE HOLY BIBLE is factual, the true word of God! The map to the Christians.

Wise One
Wise One

@LOVEROF CHRIST you are 100% correct that the LDS Doctrines contradicst the Holy Bible. In addition, the shocking thing to even LDS to realized for themselves is that the LDS Doctrine contradict The Book of Mormon!

THE BOM is a fraud but the fiction has truths in the principals and is not evil by any means.

***BOM is against WHOREDOMS like POLYGAMY*****

Travin
Travin

sorry, you are ignorant.. polygomy went on for a short time because a lot of men died protecting their wives and family.. also, the government was going to war against them! which by the way, is against the consitituion! a lot of the men died in war, and other reasons.. therefore there was more women then there was men! durring that time period WEMON actually relied on a MAN more than today! I know the mormon history very well.. a lot of the wemon were widows.. thats not very god like to just leave them to fend for themselves now is it? besides. you are a man of god right? you belive the bible right? well MOSES had more than one wife my friend! MOSES! one of the greatest persons in the history of the world and the greatest biblical figures! and also, who in the right mind. a 14 year old boy (Joseph Smith jr.) would tell the world that he found an ancient artifact(the gold plates) from the native Americans? while durring that time native americans were feared? the mormons loved the indians more than anyone else.. the book of mormon speaks very highly of them! why then,… Read more »

Travin
Travin

No one knows who the anti-christ will be (so stop trying to figure out who and where/when he is!).. know one knows when god will come. Observe! but man will not and can not figure everthing out! david Icke doest have all the answers. the creator of the universe/god, christ jesus has the answers.. gods laws doesn't always apply to mans.. don't forget! I think it's safe to say god likes variety! if he didn't he would make all the trees look the same.. look, all we know is there is obviously a plan and we gotta follow it if you like it or not.. like bob marley says: "we've got to fullfil the book." stop fighting and stop the hateful remarks. we are to stick together.. not fight eachother!, you don't have all the answers, you havn't figured god out.. "mormongirl" is not your enemy here. she's NOT OUT TO GET YA! so why say shes wrong? YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY KNOW! no one will know and no one can stop these things! if we mormon's are damned, then were damned… look.. if the mormon's are satanist I would not be a good person.. growning up I hung out with… Read more »

Wise One
Wise One

You the the freaking IGNORANT how do you explain Einstein that he married two 14 yrs old…who had father, eight women who were already married. I read that your Mormon that’s fine….Whatever makes you happy. However, shut your mouth before you right ignorant comments down you are a 21 yrs old babe and have much to learn.
Want Proof!?
http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/
Sure check it out and by the way you can see it in family search too sorry to break your little heart about your Joseph poor baby…Hey, I thought the same thing you wrote down this is what they preach, until I discovered the truth! You can stay Mormon but know your LDS facts and history when you do….then I will have respect for your comments!

Trav
Trav

you are misunderstanding this. you really think god is just chillin up there in heaven ALONE? who was Jesus praying to? himself? nonsense.. he is the LORD OF HOSTS!

Glauckenstucken
Glauckenstucken

Having read the article but not yet the commentaries, one thought prevails in my mind:

***Why didn't the author just ask the LDS about the meaning of the many, many symbols used in their religion?***

Write them an email at lds.org, call up your regional stake (that's what they call a branch), talk to some missionaries, send them scouring for official information….

btw, Joseph Smith joined the Freemasons in 1842 and afterwards introduced a lot of their symbolism and rites to the church. That's no secret at all. Also there is online a lot of their teachings regarding any topic the vigilant citizen should find delectable: evil, perversion, corruption of body and mind and what not…

LoverOfChrist
LoverOfChrist

Wow. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry_and_the_http://www.irr.org/mit/masonry.html. Maybe VC should do a few articles on Mormonism itself. That or Catholicism. I'd love to read that, though I would imagine it would have to be in a series. Maybe call it infiltration?

AedaW
AedaW

just wanted to point out, in the picture of the cosmc jesus where he is casting a shadow on earth, look at the top left. you will see 5 stars. connect the dots. inverted pentagram

anastasia
anastasia

i went to university in utah – living there, i found out that the majority of the state is LDS/Mormon. i also found out utah is the #1 state in america for prescriptions of anti depressant and anti anxiety medication. one wonders about the correlation between those two things.

stay vigilant, indeed.

ryan
ryan

I know that god loves us and wants us to return to him and that the way to do that is threw being diligent in seeking the truth and living its practices, I saw these things in thy sons name Jesus Chris Amen.

ryan
ryan

I would like to bare my testimony, That I know that following the teachings of Jesus Chris are the path to eternal life and everlasting happiness. I know that the teachings of all religions have truth and righteousness I have participated in numerous different religions and there practices and found truth and have felt the spirit of God our eternal father and his son Jesus Christ in all of those places and during all of their practices. I have never felt the spirit more overwhelming then when I have humbled myself in prayer before my heavenly father and asked to know not by fact but by the spirit of christ if what i was seeking to know was true. I know that god will answer our prayers and the only way to find the truth is within ourselves and the feeling the spirit delivers to our souls when we seek to know the truth. I know that there are men on this earth called by god to teach us how to return to him again and by prayer it will be known unto us if the words the speak are the truth by the power of the holy spirit. I… Read more »

kepha
kepha

this explains the strange symbol that is used on the LaQuinta Inns..the sun with one of the rays longer and pointing downward. Can you do some reports on the symbols that we encounter everyday on Hotels, Oil Companies, Retail stores, etc… and their meanings?

Chosen4christ
Chosen4christ

Someone mentioned in the comments that God does not ask for money and that money is the root of all evil. That is false. The bible says the love of money is the root of all evil. Money in itself is not evil. We ought to love one another as christ has loved us. The bible says;) Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him. In this is love, not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us. By this we know that we abide in him and he in us, because he has given us of his… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

You say that the reason was unclear why Cain's sacrifice of fruit was rejected. The reason it was, was because Abel gave his best lamb, and Cain gave his second-best harvest. It's that simple. Abel reserved his best for God and took the second best for himself, and Cain took the best fruits for himself and gave God the leftovers.

Floridamormon
Floridamormon

I read a lot of fear here in this article and the God I worship provides just the opposite, faith. When I was a teenager I listened to popular music, much of it rock and many of the adults were worried about back masking in the lyrics. Today I am amused. God does not allow his followers to wonder far from him. He will not hold me guilty because someone tricked me into worshiping Satan. He will hold me guilty for violating his commandments and if I truly love him I will keep them (John 14:15). Vigilant, as several people have pointed out there are many interpretations of the symbols you have noted. Very few of those interpretations are evil. In fact Lucifer (or Satan or Baal or whoever you want to call him) steals those symbols to create his false religion. The sun, moon and stars represent the three glories, or kingdoms of heaven (1 Cor 15:40-42). The cross is not a Christian symbol it is a pagan one and using it in worship it violates the second commandment (Exodus 20:4). You don’t need to fret over the symbols of any religion, or group or corporation. God will lead… Read more »

Michael
Michael

A name for Lucifer (Luci-fer, Venus as light-bringer); a fallen angel{NIV which is owned by Rupert Murdoch who also owns the copyrights the Satans Bible}, also called "Day Star," from certain translations of Isaiah 14:3-20.

A title of Jesus (KJB Revelation 22:16)

Travin
Travin

the so called "masonic eye" or seen here it is shown as the seers eye. you can see it sybolizes the eye and the veil. the eye is looking through or past the veil.. meaning the gift of the seers, the eye that looks through and or, into the sacred veil. just because you are a freemason doen't make you satanic! we're the founders of america satanic? no.

mike
mike

@ 36. Xxeena

Some ppl can be so so ignorant to say what dey do not know….I'm a roman catholic and we read the bible evryday in church before the rev.father then talks about the passage being read….please people should ease up on the ignorance here…thank you

Danica
Danica

wow those videos are removed!!

LeonManso
LeonManso

I've had dealings with many Mormon's over the years. It seems they always pick my house, and I'm always more than willing to welcome them in, when I have the time, and talk with them. I've also worked with a couple, and had daily dealings with them over many years. Over all I have to say, that besides Jehovah's Witnesses, of which I am one, the Mormons in general seem to me to be some of the nicest people I have come across. They have many things which are commendable, such as their strong sense of family values, and work ethics as I have come to know them. So the following bit of information is not to attack any Mormon, but to help open-hearted and honest individuals that may be in the Mormon Church question whether the following information should be just quickly ignored, or whether there is something amiss in their teachings. The Mormons were originally known as The Church of Christ, later known as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints or LDS (on April 26, 1838.) They are also known as Mormons a term taken from The Book of Mormon. A quick list of Mormon holy… Read more »

Kiki
Kiki

Better to become spiritual, agnostic or even atheist; you don't have to worry about the evil around you. That's what I've learned after researching religions and reading these articles.

intrigued
intrigued

Being only 16 years of age i can understand what is being said. All this is, is just OBSERVATION. Simply another case of Bigotry. I honestly do think it's funny. Everyone can argue their point across but it doesn't matter. There is ALWAYS someone trying to prove you wrong til proven right. But you can't just single out Mormons because almost every religion has it's darkside i guess, whether they want to admitt/believe it or not.

VC, this was a nice read. Keep up the good work.

God Bless 🙂

chambek
chambek

The concept of the struggle good versus evil, black magic and white magic has occult and satanic roots from the very beginning. the idea that it is not the art, symbols that are in themselves wrong, but the use of them can be good or bad based on the person who uses them or the intentions they are used is also very satanic.

Yes, this also includes the cross. The cross an idol that people worship, that takes worship away from the only place it should be directed towards, the creator of all things, Jehovah god or YHWH.

The cross is used by false christians and occultist alike. God stated meny times clearly in the bible,l hebrew scriptures and christian greek, many times. it is also the second commandment, that no idol worship ever be used by the followers of the true god. it is decieving to state that you can use any symbol anyway you want. "oh no! those pentagrams are the good kind". what stupidity!

there is holy and there is unholy, if it is not holy then it is unholy, and any image is unholy! the cross is unholy

noah
noah

Are you new here because this question has been asked, and answered, many times. Not all LDS temples have stars but the Salt Lake one does, as well as moons, the sun, and other stars. This article gives a detailed description of the many symbols found on the Salt Lake LDS Temple. Please note the specific information about the 5pointed star. But just as a reminder, a five pointed star has been in use as a symbol for many things long before the latest version of satanism took it on as their symbol. Temple Symbolism Rich symbolism adorns the exterior of the Salt Lake Temple, depicting mankind's journey from mortality into the eternal realms. Perhaps Elder J. Golden Kimball expressed it best when he stated: "When I think about that building, every stone in it is a sermon to me."1 Following is a summary of some of the major symbolism of the Salt Lake Temple: Angel Moroni. The angel Moroni depicts both a messenger of the restoration of the gospel and a herald of the Second Coming: "for the Son of Man shall come, and he shall send his angels before him with the great sound of a trumpet, and… Read more »

K
K

The article says: God accepted Abel’s gift but rejected Cain’s fruit (the reason for this is unclear). Actually there is a very good reason – from the very begining God had a plan. Because He is outside time continuum and omniscient, God knew that man would rebel against Him and hence put in place a plan to restore the fellowship lost when Adam sinned. His remedy for this would ultimately be through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ – this would be and still is the ONLY way for each of us to have fellowship once again with our Creator.Throughout the Old Testament we see many foreshadowings of this truth. The bottom line is that we are saved by what we believe and not by our works. Consider the following: After the fall God taught the first family how to prepare and present acceptable offerings to Him. We know this from Genesis 4:6-7 Then the LORD said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you,… Read more »

FreeFromSin
FreeFromSin

I was flipping through scripture and noticed something interesting. There seems to be a thread of commonality from a particular character in the bible who seems to be a great influence to this modern era of occultism. Many ppl I know don't seem to be able to spot such a one from their own text but this guy sticks out like a sore thumb. Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares We are taught to (BE AWARE OF THEM, wolves in sheep's clothing. SOLOMON… comes to mind. Allow me to explain. David is instructed to build a house for God to dwell in. We are told that we are the temple of the Living God and unless the Lord builds the house, those that labor, labor in vain. Ever read Ecclesiastes? All Solomon can repeat about his endeavors is, "Vanity, vanity… All is vanity." Have you ever seen pictures or read stories about the temple of Solomon? UNREAL!! But did it please God? 2 Chronicles 2:6 "But who is able to build a house for Him, for the heavens and the highest heavens cannot contain Him? So who am I, that I should build a house for… Read more »

DealsOfEviLL
DealsOfEviLL

Also, they did a survery recently in Rome(the so called capital of the house of God) that asked..in a time of crisis, who do you pray to..? And who came in at number 6? Jesus Christ? The top dominated by The Saints and Mary..what does that say to us? Jesus said it was okay to question…sometimes, we have to inoder to get back on our path to the truth. I myself am probably going to hell..but here I see people who mean well, just make sure your following the right gospel. Vigilant, you do an amazing job. Now I've got some great info for the Mormons who constantly come knocking on my door. Sometimes they camp out on my front yard. And btw…God hates racism. Black people are beautiful. Asians are beautiful. The short people are beautiful..everyone is beautiful in their diversity. God created an amazing, beautifully unique human race..no one is better than the other because of the color of your skin. I am white, but that doesn't make me less punished by God. Everyone is beautiful, praise Jesus and The God of the most high for that.

Josh
Josh

There is a way to get to heaven. But there is a very serious problem. You see our sin (transgression of the ten commandments) have separated us from God's holiness. We have failed to keep God's holy law. Jesus says that whoever looks at a women to lust after her has committed adultery with her in his heart? Have you ever looked at a woman with lust. ( I am terribly sorry if you are a girl, I only assumed you were a guy). But the same goes with women as well. Have you ever hated anyone? God sees this as murder. Ever used God's name in vain? That is called blasphemy and it is a very serious sin. You have basically taken the one who gave you life and used it as a four letter curse word to express filth and discuss. Now if you have admitted to all three of these transgression you have admitted to being a adulterer and a murder at heart, and a blasphemer at heart. And we have only looked at three of the commandments, and you have seven others pointing at you. I plead with you take into consideration what is at stake.… Read more »

Jema
Jema

Viligant… really liked the piece on the Denver Int'l Airport. (Really creepy, "right-in-your-face" evil on open display. It was a real eye-opener. I can't imagine more people are not protesting against it). HOWEVER with this piece, I don't see your logic at all and don't agree. When one realizes that the connection between the "inverted pentagram" and Satan came about AFTER Joseph Smith (founder of this faith)… 10 years later… this makes your theory null and void. The Mormons used this symbol on their 2nd Temple, Nauvoo Temple, before the time that this symbol had an evil connotation. So I believe the symbol has NOTHING to do with an inverted pentagram. Satan always takes the good and twists it into evil. This is just another example. (For those people who so readily condemn the Mormons without doing their own individual homework on the matter…. truly sad).

JON JON
JON JON

EVER SINCE I'VE READ ALOT OF YOUR ARTICLES I SPEND MY DAYS LOOKING MUCH DEEPER INTO THINGS THAN I DID BEFORE. I'AM AMAZED AT THE THINGS I WAS BLINDED FROM BEFORE. THANKS VG

Junior
Junior

I now understand, based on some of the non Christian responses, why the Bible says that our battle as believing, blood washed Christians is not against flash and blood but against the forces and principalities of darkness; such as witchcraft [which some people so gladly embrace]; gnosticism; and lds belief systems. Be careful, non Christians, the Bible explicitly warns about God's wrath being exercised on those who do not follow Him. In the same breath, however, He is the only gracious and all forgiving God.

Great work people

ebenezer
ebenezer

Cain offered God the fruit of his work while Abel offered God a lamb from his flock. God rejected Cain's offer because God does not make a distinction between his sons and daughters based on merit. All humans are equal in the eyes of God. God sent the message that people should stop boasting whose offer was better, and stop taking pride in their own achievements, for everything belongs to God. God gives and God takes.

It is the Gnostics who believe that people can get closer to God according to their own merit. The Gnostics are culpable of excessive pride, which is an abomination in the eyes of God.

Colinspradlin
Colinspradlin

I have seen videos and documentaries on the Mormons and how much of the things they do have an occult like resemblance.

amanda
amanda

The reason for the rejection of cains offering is that when one plucks fruit from its life force(the tree) it is now dead. Abels offering of the lamb was of life simply because the lamb was alive before the offering. If God is the life giver he only wants life offering. Cains offering was of death therefore it was not accepted by God

Poncho
Poncho

I wouldn't call inverted pentagrams all over a supposed "holy" site subtle…… Anyway. What do expect from a religion that named their stat "Utopia". That should tip off right there that something is wrong.

Robert
Robert

But what I’m asking is if God made it simple to test a prophet. By a simple test, and if they fail that test everything that came out of the false prophet should be put to death with that prophet. Since the test to determine if a prophet is from God is 100% accuracy in the outcome of his prophecies (Deuteronomy 18:20-22),

– Joseph Smith prophesied that the United States government would be overthrown in the 1800's. (History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1973, 5:394)

– Joseph Smith prophesied that the New Jerusalem would be built in Missouri within his generation. (Doctrine and Covenants 84:1-5)

Did these ever come to Pass?

Thank you

michael
michael

Why is it that these faiths that adopt christian beliefs choose to omit the fact the Jesus was the last true prophet? All others that claim new knowledge are supposed to be held as false prophets. Why? Because after Pentecost the holy spirit now resides in all of us that profess to be followers of Christ and have been baptized as such. And we are all capable of sharing the word of god, we are all capable of prophecy. But we are only supposed to speak the word of god that has been laid before us or given in wisdom he reveals in accordance with the means found in Acts 2. (PS two angels with some magic gold tablets and decoder rocks not mentioned in there). So anyone who speaks against it is false whether they know it or not. They take the whole freaking book and just try to circumvent that fact. And as far as the symbolism of the inverted elongated pentagram is to be considered yes the Mormons believe that it stands for something else. And that's kinda the beauty of symbols they have whatever value the beholder chooses to place upon them. But if I took… Read more »

suffering servant
suffering servant

mormon girl writes, " Lol, i think all of you adults duking it out over this is funny. Think whatever you’d like about us, but there is so much that we learn. Yes, there are some of those crazy folks who are pretty much insane, but that happens in all churches. And I also find it humorous, it sounds like all of you think that we literally took Barak Obama’s mother’s body and literally baptized it. Of course not. That would make us grave diggers, and that would just be stupid. It’s done by proxy, and they have the choice whether or not to accept it. And I could fight back against all of the claims, but I find it amusing and choose to do otherwise. Have fun with this war of yours…" this is a far from funny matter! the bottom line is that your church is headed by a false prophet. therefore what you learn maybe nothing more then lies. thats dangerous not funny. Id love to hear your argument or proof that mr. monson is a true prophet of god!!!! what has he prophisized that has come true???? the lord tells us this is the test of… Read more »

Jay
Jay

dude this is crazy. ive always thought the mormon religion to be weird. the school i go to has a bunch of mormons and im actually crushing on a mormon girl. I really want to go to the temple some day and ask the tour guide some questions. This has left me veryyy skeptical

mindyc
mindyc

This is an insightful article. I was raised in the Mormon church. For all of you Mormon's defending your faith, ask yourself – has anyone really ever explained the inverted pentagram in church? Why after the Lord told Joseph not to join any sect did he join the Masons? Why did he take their signs and tokens and implement them in the endowment? He swore a blood oath in Masonry that he wouldn't reveal them. Doesn't the Book of Mormon warn against secret combinations? Why does the temple use them in their ceremony?

Signed,

Taking a Second Look

Mormon Girl
Mormon Girl

Lol, i think all of you adults duking it out over this is funny. Think whatever you'd like about us, but there is so much that we learn. Yes, there are some of those crazy folks who are pretty much insane, but that happens in all churches. And I also find it humorous, it sounds like all of you think that we literally took Barak Obama's mother's body and literally baptized it. Of course not. That would make us grave diggers, and that would just be stupid. It's done by proxy, and they have the choice whether or not to accept it. And I could fight back against all of the claims, but I find it amusing and choose to do otherwise. Have fun with this war of yours!

Love,

Mormon Girl

PS. Anyone who says our temple ordinances are ritualistic is simply making it up. I've done the things I can at my age, and there's nothing bad about them at all. In fact it's pretty awesome. I love doing the work. And we are after all, a peculiar people. And proud of it!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Your either With God or Against God.

Kay
Kay

I have officially become addicted to all of these articles explaining symbols and their meanings. I have a friend who is mormon and it is incredibly hard to watch her spend life going through all the mormon traditions, etc. It seems it is more about rules and building your personal kingdom than building your personal relationship with God. Also, it is heart-wrenching to know that a huge percentage of mormons are brought up, trained to believe that Joseph Smith was a true prophet sent from God. They have no idea that what most of what they have been raised and trained to believe are all lies. Personally, all mormons I have come across have been some of the kindest people I have ever met. It just saddens me that they are living a life being deceived by a man who wrote a book claiming God gave him the words to write when God says clearly in the book of Revelation that NOTHING shall be added to the original bible. Then in the 1800s some man comes along deciding maybe he'll just not take God seriously on not adding to the Bible, and add another book so he can deceive thousands?… Read more »

Rene
Rene

this article definietly makes u think about wat might be going on behind the scene of things. however…. no one really know's whether or not its a fact or not that the mormons are an underlying occult.. for instance there are no secret hand shakes. just the friendly hello in the hallway. i wont deny that the symbols surrounding the church raise more questions then they do answers, but like every other religion it is subject to speculation because it is not perfect and has some extreme flaws… definitely must dig deeper to find the truth

unseen servant
unseen servant

One question to mormons… You believe we are in the end times, or last days. In the scriptures god tells us that in "those days" your old men will dream your young men will see visions and your children will prophecy! So, how is it that an 80 something yr old man is believed to be the olny living prophet as opposed to someone much younger claiming to have a message or prophecy from god???

Your false prophet has led you astray. you see what's surrounding you but know NOT what it implies. You hear what I'm saying but understand NOT what it means. Your false prophet allows a statue of the beast that decieves to stand in a holy place. BREAKING THY COMMANDMENT! He condones a war in vain. As well as the murders of many by the government's army that he supports. Prophets see what disasters lie ahead. What has your prophet foretold???

Andrea
Andrea

From an LDS site about the Temple Square: "Starstones. Six-pointed stars represent the actual stars in the heaven. Upside-down five-pointed stars represent morning stars, compared to the "sons of God" in the scriptures. The large upright five-pointed stars may represent the governing power of the priesthood while the small upright five-pointed stars may represent the saving power of the priesthood for those who attach themselves to it." Very interesting that they equate the upright star with "the governing power of the priesthood" and not just regular humans. This symbol represents man in so many occult traditions. From Europe to China, it is said to represent the 5 elements; fire, earth, air, water, and ether (or spirit) which animates all life. In China they also have a cycle of creation, and destruction which can be created by either following the route of the pentagram or going from point to point in a circle, creating a pentagram. We are all made up of a combination of these elements and qualities, and we must remember to hold the spirit above the material realm. It has been explained in some of my mystic symbolism books, that the reason that the inverted 5 pointed star… Read more »

Matthew
Matthew

Life has no meaning expect the meaning you give it, including thoughts, actions, words, symbols, etc.

No doubt the Mormon church is spinning stories to continue existing as an organisation, just as most world organised religions have done for recorded history-similar to an ego…keep feeding itself to feel bigger and better than everyone else.

MOHAMED
MOHAMED

لا إله إلا الله محمدا رسول الله

brenda
brenda

The reason God rejected Cain's sacrifice is because it was Cains way of redeeming himself through his own efforts and not what God required, which was a "blood" sacrifice. Abel chose to do it God's way, Cain was doing it his own way. Every humans story… God's way, or your way.

K. Gore
K. Gore

This article is spot on. I happen to live walking distance to temple square and all of these emblems and symbols are there. And for those of you who ask this man if he's ever asked a mormon what they mean, I will tell you that he doesn't have to. The symbols are pagan/satanic and are taken from Masonry. Why? Because Jo Smitty was a freemason and a diviner (recorded facts) as well as a con man, and he took these things from freemasonry and put it in the temple rites and ceremonies. If you ask most mormons what they mean, they will make stuff up or just outright tell you that they are something holy because Mormons aren't taught to think or ask questions. I converse with them almost on a daily basis here in Salt Lake and most just don't know. They aren't taught to question the church at all and if they do, they are shunned by the other members, some of which know the church's doctrines are wrong but to say it would mean they would be shunned too and that would ruin their world they've created. So before you question the research in the article… Read more »

Teaca
Teaca

How dare u try and compare paganism to satanism. They are two completly different religions. We pagans do not do evil. We do not worship the devil or Satan. We worship the earth and all her glory. We do not believe in Satan or the devil and the upturned pentagram is our symbol while the down ward turned pentagram is for satanism. I don't know about the Mormons nor do I care to know. I have my religion and they have theirs. But we pagans are not practicing evil.

Julio Marquez Cota
Julio Marquez Cota

I will look into it. I cannot bulieve that all major religous organizations must and allways use satanic symbols in the churches. That is not cool.

LUCandCHRIST Not the
LUCandCHRIST Not the

Hey everyone! i am an EX- Mormon and i have to say the Mormon practice is Nothing like the article describes. there are no ritual nor secret Lucifer agenda. this article is as dumb and bogus as most of the comment made.I was born into the Mormon religion and i must say their practices are sincere and have good values. I am not a Mormon anymore because…………………….well i like to do thing that Mormons don't agree with (party, be with multiple-girls etc.).

I am also exploring the David Icke hypothesis and i must express this to him : i believe in some of the things you talk about but if you wanna put crap like this on you web site …….you are gonna attract the wrong crowd the dumb down, Aspartame infected, drew-ling monkeys that believe everything they read or hear instead going out and doing they're own research and finding out facts for them selves.

Get off you Knees People…………WAKE UP!!!

Season
Season

Amazingly, these comments began to be posted in June of 09, and still the debate rages!

Plus, since I posted my "joke" (see #54), there have been at least 10 more very "well informed" commentators valiantly trying to establish that they are "correct" and everyone else is "wrong", but not one has mentioned reading the joke, taking a deep breath, chuckling at the insanity of it all, then stepping back to observe themselves somewhere in it! Do fervent religious beliefs lead to a toal loss of a sense of humor? Seems so, based on this endless debate and those who have commented thus far.

Will any of those commenting ever change their minds or be convinced "otherwise"? Very doubtful. Unfortunately, the dogmas of religion are designed to keep mankind totally disoriented while killing each other in the name of God! The plan has worked quite well for well over 2,000 years. One can only wonder "whose plan" it is.

Kelli D
Kelli D

Just a thought about why Cain's offering was not acceptable while Abel's was….Christian's know that you can't earn your way (through the work of your hands) which is what Cain was doing when he grew and gave the fruit of his labor as a sacrifice. To become worthy of God (heaven), it was and still is only through the blood sacrifice of the innocent and unblemished (It was always the best Lamb picked for the sacrifice). In this case it's the lamb sacrificed by Abel and later the blood sacrifice of Jesus (Yeshua) that we become accepted/acceptable to God. He did this for us. The Bible is amazing and so many times the same lesson is taught to us over and over again. Such a complex book but also brilliant in its simplicity. A Lady I attend church with calls these her "Aha" moments. You may or may not agree with this but for me it was an aha moment. By the way, although I am not Morman, I have known quite a few and most are truly decent and loving people. Many people in many different religions and sects will be deceived because they followed the teachings of men… Read more »

Chris
Chris

I read about 75% of the comments but couldn't bring myself to read anymore of the ignorant dribble on the page. Most of the things posted here are borderline hate speech and are clearly misleading. I only have 2 things to say. Nice job Vigilant on pointing out the wealth of symbolism around temple square though I disagree with your judgment and refer you and all commenters to this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9HGubsB_qQ

Paganism is not satanism. Pagans do not worship the devil, satan, or lucifer. Some types of artwork can be misconstrued as symbolism. Symbolism only arises when the creator of the symbols creates them for that purpose, since you can't purport to know what the creator meant by the artwork, conclusions can only be based on assumption. Just watch the video.

Caitlin
Caitlin

Joseph Smith is a complete hack. Any Mormon who would actually open up a book about Mormon history that has not been published by the church would realize this to be true. And let us not even delve into the evils that make up the FUNDAMENTALIST LDS! Read Carolyn Jessop's book "Escape". You will be truly disgusted that such Mormon communities exist like this in modern day America. The LDS church claims to have no ties with the fundamentalist but some of their money laundering can be connected to these FLDS communities and leaders. This denomination along with other Christian denominations is filled with a history of violence, fraud, and trickery. The funny thing is that some of the meanest people I have ever met are Mormons. I am sure that there are nice Mormons out there but you have to question their level of intelligence if they are so easily swayed to buy into the stories told in the book of Mormon and the teachings in the Book of Covenants. Another very interesting and insightful book to read is "Under the Banner of Heaven: A History of Violent Faith" I was raised religiously. I no longer practice any faith… Read more »

Wholeness
Wholeness

Learn to become symbol-literate yourself. Google Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion and also listen to A View From Space from 640am (also available live over the Internet) Saturday nights either 8pm EST to midnight or 11pm to 2am Saturday nights: http://www.640toronto.com/HostsandShows/AViewFrom

The more you learn and are able to see the more astonished you will be about how much of these symbols are on advertisements and most of the movies you watch everyday. You will also be able to see if you should avoid giving money or business to a corporation or religious institution or corrupt charity that worships Lucifer and/or Nazi-ism and/or fascism and/or basically wants to enslave the human race, etc.

Susanna
Susanna

I am a very proud pagan witch.

And the pentagram represents the 5 elements- water, air, earth, fire and spirit. Right side up- it also represents the human form- with arms outstretched. Inverted- it is supposed to represent the 'left handed' magick or black magical arts. There is much debate over what exactly constitutes black magic: some people seem to think that ANY kind of protection prayer/spell meant to influence someone else is black magic.I see it as self defense.

In any case, paganism/witchcraft is not something terrible to be feared. In fact, it is one of the few beliefs that has (at least one) goddess and respects women. Name another religion that treat women as equals to men. So, the author may have 'done some research' but unfortunately, is very much off the mark with the fearful opinion of paganism. Sad but true. If the Mormons were truly pagan, they would not mistreat women as they do. Nor would they EVER have prevented Black people from joining. The author of this story would do well to learn the truth about paganism.

wavemantra
wavemantra

here is the skinny…… there is no outsourcing your personal salvation (whatever that may mean), you gotta do the work yourself. there is no jesus or buddha or skyspook to forgive your "sins", except you. i have spent many years in salt lake city, the moes and their bomb-proof "temple" are just laughable. all religions are shams. period. yes your god is a sham, sorry.

C. Davis
C. Davis

Sorry, all, but I believe there is a specific commandment concerning making images representing any living thing. So regardless what being these sorcerers intend these images to represent they are.contrary to the law. Doesn't it seem creepy to anyone else that a temple, supposedly of God, would need to be adorned with this abundance of occultic or alchemical symbols as some sort of hex fetishes? Again, sorry, but I can't justify any use of these pictograms as being representative of anything like what Christ or the God of Abraham would accept as suitable accoutriments to a place meant to be used for worship of them. On the other hand, multitudinous other faiths encourage the use of such devices. Hmmm…..

John Doe
John Doe

Hello VC,

Well I've been following your work for some time and I wanted to know your opinion on a matter not related directly to this article, but since I have no idea where else to put it here it goes.

I don't know if you have ever read the posts of a person who called himself hidden hand, but I'll leave here the link: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread402958/
He basically says hes part of the Illuminati group (and luciferian group) and what is their intent. I know that there's a great chance this is fake but, we never know…

SOF
SOF

Good article. And you mormon douchebags should seriously give it a rest. I have invited missionaries into my home to talk at lengths about Jesus, and what is funny is that you people don't know s**t about him! For a religion that boasts him as their poster boy it sure is a sad state of ignorance. To know thyself is to know Christ. Why did he answer the Roman courts in the manner he did when he was brought to trial? Why did he burn the gap, toss the change tables, and say that churches were abominations? Why did he say he wasn't coming back, but his spirit would, or should I say his Christ would return when the red letters were understood? In our courts and on our money it says in god we trust, he knew why and what that meant, I will bet 90% of the sheep out there have no idea and still scratch their head when they consider that church and state are supposedly seperate. Why did he get angered when others spoke of creating a church in his name? Because he knew it would be perverted quicker than the pope can jump on a… Read more »

Ed Decker and Saints
Ed Decker and Saints

Excellent report. Much of it comes from numerous articles on my website, http://www.saintsalive.com

I would like permission to post the article and its reference to your site on my own site. IN return I will give you legal permission to post the videos that have been pulled. While Jeremiah Films owns the distribution rights to the videos. Saints Alive owns the copyrights.

Again.. Excellent report..

Ed Decker

President

Saints Alive

Season
Season

This is a very HEAVY and intense discussion….Anyone ready for a bit of levity? Here's one of my favorite jokes told by Red Skeleton many, many years ago which makes almost everyone who hears it laugh. And, it may even make us "think"! The Pope received a very urgent phone call from one of his Cardinals in the USA who began with, "Your Holiness, I have some very good news and some very bad news. Which would you like me to share first." The Pope replied, "Save the bad news for last, my son, and let me hear the good news first." The Cardinal continued breathlessly, "Jesus Christ has returned!! He's back!! I received a call from Him only moments ago…He is here on planet earth and wants to speak to you." "Oh, wonder of wonders," replied the Pope. "This is the most incredibly good news for all of Christendom, how could you possibly have any bad news after this?" "Well", stammered the Cardinal, "He called me from Salt Lake City!" Those of us who stand and observe from afar continue to be amazed and mystified as we witness how many people of different religious sects and denominations remain so… Read more »

The Revolution!
The Revolution!

Interesting how the related video's have been removed.

BE very AWAKE people, spys are amongst us everywhere.

anton alfred newcomb
anton alfred newcomb

who killed sgt pepper?

lifeinthemix
lifeinthemix

A very interesting report indeed, yet many do not realise that Mormonism comes directly out of the Protestant nonconformists. The British UKIP leader Malcolm Pearson has high ties with Mormonism, yet most in the truth movement support UKIP, Scientology and in so doing are pushing Mormonism….

More research required by supposed truthers into those they support

Freedom
Freedom

God rejected the fruit as it resembled the fruit offered to Eve when she was fooled by the serpent! It is another or first corruption of humananity!

The human race is starting to awaken but the serpent dissendents are holding the power strings – but not for too much longer!

Take the worlds local bank symbol and you can quickly change its appearence into a pyramid.

Even the the rebuilt theatre in SoA, UK has a tower with a sinister 360 degree glass structure atop! could be the evil eye again!

Anon
Anon

I've never met a Mormon personally I didn't like.

But, as a group they are slime.

Ever worked in a place where Mormons run it?

They'll treat you nice, maybe they'll try to suggest you join the church, maybe not. Especially if you have any Native American blood in you, even so little that if you tried to claim any Indian status you'd be laughed at.

Then, when someone feels like doing your job for a while, from their church group, even a semi half-wit kid, bye. They'll toss you out overnight, or in cases of a non "Right to Work" state, suddenly you'll have a ton of anonymous complaints and be fired.

Mormons are slime, filth.

They worship the devil.

Or, at least a prominent "Demon".

They have some trouble spreading in the east because Hinduism, Islam and some tangent forms of Christianity there have been warned by their holy men centuries past of a demon called "Mormos" and his followers, the "Mormons". So they lie about their group's name.

D. Rolling Kearney
D. Rolling Kearney

(NOTE: I apologize for the duplicate entries. Some of these are showing up immediately while others are taking great lengths of time to actually appear.)

3. The names of the Devil

You chastised an earlier commenter for 'conflating' Lucifer and Satan (comment #13). This is ridiculous because there are multiple names for 'the Devil' and these are just two. They refer to the same individual. At least to Mormons (Latter-day Saints), Jews, Catholics, Protestant Christians, Orthodox Christians, Muslims, and pretty much everyone else. If you choose to interpret this differently, by all means go ahead. Just remember, your view is in the minority, and the views of others should also be respected.

From the Catholic Encyclopedia:

"St. Jerome agrees with them (In Isaiah 1.14), and makes Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel who must lament the loss of his original glory bright as the morning star. In Christian tradition this meaning of Lucifer has prevailed; the Fathers maintain that Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen [Therefore still a reference to Satan]…" (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09410a.htm)

D. Rolling Kearney
D. Rolling Kearney

2. (Continued) In America, there are two common symbolic gestures that will get you assaulted in other places like Thailand. These gestures would be recognized by Americans as the 'thumbs up' and 'a-ok' (pointer finger and thumb making a circle while the other 3 fingers stick up) gestures. In other places these mean, in order, male genitalia and a–hole. So whose interpretation is correct? Obviously this can only be decided by the person doing the interpretation. When dealing with the symbolism of others, we must be cautious to assign THEIR interpretations. My attempt to show support, American-style, may be extremely insulting to my Thai friend. Unless, that is, he chooses to interpret my symbolic gesture the way I intended. International usage/meaning of the 'Thumbs Up' gesture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thumbs_up#The_gestur… International usage of the 'A-ok' gesture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-ok Your own narrow-mindedness is suggesting that all symbols, including these, have but one "correct" meaning, and that all others are only pretending to have other meanings, presumably for nefarious purposes. It should be noted that symbols like the pentagram are extremely uncommon in Latter-day Saint buildings or practice. Perhaps because later architects and individuals chose to avoid their further use precisely because OTHERS might interpret these… Read more »

D. Rolling Kearney
D. Rolling Kearney

Okay, this commenting system sucks and I am having trouble getting my posts to show up. I got the first part up, and I will continue to try to post the rest. Stay tuned!

D. Rolling Kearney
D. Rolling Kearney

2. The Meaning of Symbols You have asserted that a symbol can only have one meaning, and that the use of certain symbols by the Mormons can only mean that which someone else, somewhere else, said it means. I beg to differ. Common sense tells us that symbols are only symbols (i.e., they only have meaning) if meaning is consciously assigned to them. According to Answers.com, the first definition of symbolism is: The practice of representing things by means of symbols or of attributing symbolic meanings or significance to objects, events, or relationships. Notice that any meaning must be ATTRIBUTED, or given. Symbols do not have meaning in and of themselves; any meaning must be given to it by someone. Since all people are different, it therefore follows that different people may/will assign different meanings. Another commenter correctly pointed out that the swastika had already been in wide use by Asians (and Native Americans) as a symbol of harmony and peace for thousands of years before Hitler turned it into a symbol of hatred and destruction. Many Asians, however, still assign the former meaning to this symbol and it is still in use today. By your narrow interpretation, all Asians… Read more »

D. Rolling Kearney
D. Rolling Kearney

2. The Meaning of Symbols You have asserted that a symbol can only have one meaning, and that the use of certain symbols by the Mormons can only mean that which someone else, somewhere else, said it means. I beg to differ. Common sense tells us that symbols are only symbols (i.e., they only have meaning) if meaning is consciously assigned to them. According to Answers.com, the first definition of symbolism is: The practice of representing things by means of symbols or of attributing symbolic meanings or significance to objects, events, or relationships. Notice that any meaning must be ATTRIBUTED, or given. Symbols do not have meaning in and of themselves; any meaning must be given to it by someone. Since all people are different, it therefore follows that different people may/will assign different meanings. Another commenter correctly pointed out that the swastika had already been in wide use by Asians (and Native Americans) as a symbol of harmony and peace for thousands of years before Hitler turned it into a symbol of hatred and destruction. Many Asians, however, still assign the former meaning to this symbol and it is still in use today. By your narrow interpretation, all Asians… Read more »

D. Rolling Kearney
D. Rolling Kearney

An astute commenter stated earlier on this page that some Mormons had left intelligent comments but that you have chosen to ignore those and merely attack easier targets. I am another one of those Mormons with intelligent comments. I know what I believe and why, and, like most Mormons, I don't mind discussing it. This, of course, is a sure sign that we are all hiding some inner evil that you have somehow discovered has been posted publicly and plainly for all to see. Congratulations! You win! [Commenter #134: Hi! This is a California Mormon, discussing my religion. Feel free to ask me anything your stuck up Utah neighbors wouldn't address. PS- I know many Mormons from Utah, and practically all of them would be happy to discuss our religion with you anytime. We ARE people, just like everyone else, however, so of course not everyone likes to talk about such things. You seem kind of irritating, though, so I imagine that probably had something to do with it, too. Also, I call B.S. on the concept that none of the Mormons in Utah will discuss their religion with you. At any given moment there are 40,000 to 60,000 Mormons… Read more »

Jesse
Jesse

God rejected Cain's gift because he offered fruits that were of low quality, while Abel sought out the best lamb from his field.

SunnyC
SunnyC

I don't know whether to believe Elphias Levi or not. It seems there is one passage that mentions Lucifer as the "son of the morning" but there are numerous passages that refer to Christ himself as the morning star. The explanation is sound too – it's an astrology fetish passed on from Mesopotamia. Mormon websites say that when they use the inverted pentagram, they are referring to Christ. And with this is mind, this article completely collapses on itself. Jesus is illuminating the hemisphere he is facing. The eagle is standing on top of the beehive, and not necessarily "clawing it".

If one group uses the inverted pentagram to invoke Christ, and the other uses it to invoke Baphomet, do we assume all inverted pentagrams invoke Baphomet because the Baphomet worshippers creep us out more? And if we don't practice that faith, and we support freedom of speech, why is this really an issue?

Alex
Alex

Thank you so much… I know that you are the person behind all the analysis behind pop music videos,… G-d bless you with love, peace, health and with the protection of their angels from everything bad or dark. I would like to help you. Maybe if you want I can translate your articles to Spanish.

G-d bless

Mason Thorns
Mason Thorns

Throughout history symbols that once meant one thing to one group were adopted by another to mean something entirely different, like the Nazi's taking control of the Asian inspired Swastika. Maybe this is the Mormon's using their own cryptic symbolism by utilizing an inverted pentagram that, yes, represents evil for one, but also the number 2. Just because something has been perverted doesn't mean no one should make an effort to un-pervert it. The significance of the number 2 to them being THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST.

Bg
Bg

Actually, Joseph Smith (founder of the LDS) was a free mason, so all this junk makes sense.

Jose A. Breaf
Jose A. Breaf

Does anybody know why Beth B posted the same thing three different times?

Love Truth
Love Truth

Great job again VC!!

Wow ~ the posts.

mac
mac

the unknown reason of the rejection of Cains offering is that Christ (representing the lamb of God which was spotless(means no sin) was to be the sacrifice for all man kind. So Cain needed to bring a spotless lamb(representing Jesus) and sacrifice him. And what did he bring? FRUIT. Jesus Christ is our saviour he died for us and rose again. If you have a Bible(if you don't get one and this may save your life if you truly believe)go to these scriptures(If you cant find them look in the Table of contents)Romans3:23,John3:16.the end is coming soon and Jesus wants you to be with him eternally.

UtahSucks
UtahSucks

I'm from Utah, I hate this place. It's funny that when you ask Mormons for clarification on anything specific in their scriptures, they get pissed off and arrogant but not once do they spend the time to explain anything. Other times they will look upon you as if you're ignorant but wait, if I am ignorant which may be the case, and you are so smart and holy and the only true ones, then enlighten me instead of getting pissed off and you get pissed off only because you're too stupid to even understand what you are following. If I am dumb in my reasoning and you know the truth and your job as the holy ones is to lead me into the light, then why aren't you doing your job then? Why be condescending? Why not help me, the ignorant one? Whatever, most are brainwashed and the elite know this and a lot more, therefore having no reason to change anything. Ever notice that most MLMs are based out of Utah as well, in fact most are based either in the far norther part of Utah and far Southern part of Utah which are actually the highest in density… Read more »

Beth B
Beth B

The people on here who say the symbols have a different meaning to the Mormons just make me laugh, especially the ones who like to use the swastika as an example, because it used to be a symbol of life to some Native Americans. So how about if I embroider my clothes with swastikas, then, and say that the symbol has a different meaning to ME?? How do you think that would be received??

Give me a break. You cannot deny the long established meanings of symbols. No matter what cutesy explanations you come up with (aw, your prayers are being answered!), the other implications are still there behind it. People just don't want to believe that evil can infiltrate their circle — that's everybody else's problem. The thing is, if evil were so predictable, or if it wasn't so subtle, gradual, and ambiguous, it wouldn't be DANGEROUS — because everybody could recognize and avoid it.

Beth B
Beth B

The people on here who say the symbols have a different meaning to the Mormons just make me laugh, especially the ones who like to use the swastika as an example, because it used to be a symbol of life to some Native Americans. So how about if I embroider my clothes with swastikas, then, and say that the symbol has a different meaning to ME?? How do you think that would be received??

Give me a break. You cannot deny the long established meanings of symbols. No matter what cutesy explanations you come up with (aw, your prayers are being answered!), the other implications are still there behind it. People just don't want to believe that evil can infiltrate their circle — that's everybody else's problem. The thing is, if evil were so predictable, or if it wasn't so subtle, gradual, and ambiguous, it wouldn't be DANGEROUS — because everybody would recognize and avoid it. Hello!!!

Beth B
Beth B

The people on here who say the symbols have DIFFERENT meaning to the Mormon Church just make me laugh…. especially the one(s) who brought up how the swastika used to be a symbol of life. Maybe I should just embroider swastikas on my clothes, then, and claim that symbol has a different meaning for ME??? How do you think that would be received??

Give me a break. You can't just deny the long-standing, established value of symbols. I don't care how many cute little explanations you have (aw, your prayers are being answered!), the other implications are still there. People just don't want to believe that there lives can be infiltrated by evil. If the influence of evil wasn't so subtle, or gradual, or ambiguous, then it wouldn't be DANGEROUS because everyone would easily recognize and avoid it — hello!!

Jose A. Breaf
Jose A. Breaf

I went on a tour of temple square a few nights ago and here is what the female missionaries (from Japan and Pakistan) told me about the temple:

1) There are stars on the building pointing up and down. Pointing up the stars mean you are praying to God, down, your prayers are being answered.

2) The eye is the all seeing eye of God, similar to what is on the back of the dollar bill.

I was then led into the Tabernacle hall, where Brigham Young preached according to them. They explained about the accoustics of the building, etc. Then I was given a card to get a free DVD about Joseph Smith.

Obviously they were true believers, you could see it in their eyes. Satanic, I don't think so. The Mormons think that Jesus came to the US and preached to the Native Americans who are supposedly a lost tribe of Isreal. I don't see how that can be Satanic. Different, yes. I did not feel like I was going to be sacrified at the alter even though they wouldn't show it to me.

psycho
psycho

A few points from my exp.

* The morning star (inverted pentagram) is used in early Christianity (regardless of pagan origin or not) therefore while worth mentioning as an idea, I would criticize making it such a large selling point.

* Masons claim to have past down rituals from solomon's temple. If true it makes since there would be similarities between a christian church and the masons. I do not believe there is empirical evidence to draw any conclusion as to the masons origin so I will not be getting in to that.

* The sun, moon and stars are mentioned in the bible together.

were these symbols first judaic-christian or pagan? I do not believe the historical record is as clear as the article makes it to be.

while I can see bringing up some of the points. I fail to see any diffrance between the arguments presented and those used by anti-christian groups against the bible or anti-semitic rhetoric.

sorry for any misspellings, it is my gift~

anynomous
anynomous

Just because you read something on the internet, doesn’t mean it is true. I would never publish such things about anyone’s religion unless I had actually been to that church myself. It really disgusts me all the Mormon hating literature there is out there, when most of the people who write it have probably never set foot in a Mormon church. That being said, here is a summary of what we (and yes I am Mormon) believe: The Articles of Faith of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. 2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression. 3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel. 4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost. 5. We believe that a man must… Read more »

jasonbourne
jasonbourne

i just dont understand, how can the world still believe in the BIBLE? regardless of what version thats available…its clear that the elite and satanists have made a version of their own which is the bible today..to DECEIVE and CHEAT MANKIND. So long as people still believe in the bible, thats where the satanists have achieved their goals. I myself do not like this because i do believe in Jesus but not what the elite and satanists are telling the whole world for the past 2000 years…i go to a different source.

jasonbourne
jasonbourne

oh well, in other words…everything that the bible says, its false and full of deception and misguidance..a long con

jasonbourne
jasonbourne

well, the fact that the elite are using christianity to unite the whole world and deceive them with their own version of christianity in order to enslave them. Simple enough, the fact that the whole generation of christianity ( since the council of narcea -Roman empire etc) has been worshipping a man is just pure paganism. Why would they want the people to change that belief and concept? its just perfect isnt it? how the bible has been manipulated the same way for the people to keep practising paganism is their main ultimate goal..They have taken the true teachings and religion of Jesus ( that would include the prophets before him) and turned it into their own to deceive mankind.

Anonymous
Anonymous

lol

Just a thought. Make of it what you want. Great article, VC.

hasif darwish
hasif darwish

i really really like you website

George1st
George1st

@sir Do you ask this question because they are the only ones that are known not to celebrate or have any relations or dealings with anything that even smacks of paganism, or perhaps it is because I used the proper name of God as translated into English (which many who claim to serve God abhor). You may judge for yourself what is right and wrong in your own eyes. Just as the author of this website sees fit to explore the occultic meaning of many things. I see many hundreds of millions of people still worshiping, celebrating, and holding pagan traditions, while they claim to serve the God of the Bible. Now many are plain ignorant and just go along with the flow, as you note here, many people do with wicked music. They don't try to study the Bible or get God's viewpoint on things, but rather would like to go along with the flow and criticize others who are different from them. While others knowing full well the pagan origins of their teachings and celebrations, make justifications for continuing to practice them, and claim they still serve God. We know that the pagan god's were really demons. And… Read more »

George
George

@sir Paul, an apostle, under inspiration tell us that these pagan gods to whom the people worshiped actually represented demons, minions of Satan. And after revealing this truth under holy inspiration by the true God who exposes their falsehoods and pretenses, asks you a question to make you think whether it is okay to gather together with their demonic worship, and think that it is pleasing in God's sight. Listen and reason: " No; but I say that the things which the nations sacrifice they sacrifice to demons, and not to God; and I do not want YOU to become sharers with the demons. YOU cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; YOU cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons. Or “are we inciting Jehovah to jealousy”? We are not stronger than he is, are we?" 1 Corinthians 10:19-22. Now we who have a conscience trained in scripture believe that because these holidays, and symbols, and many teachings are pagan, we must reject them, by touching them we become unclean, unholy, unacceptable in God's eyes. Many of those who practice these holidays in Christendom and never-the-less know of their… Read more »

sir
sir

@george:

are you a jehovah's witness?

George
George

Would like to add a few things about symbolism in the Church. I've read a few comments about the cross and such. So here goes: The halo is actually a pagan symbol. You see it on Apollo the sun god. Correct, the halo represents the sun-god in paganism. The halo was never Christian but was borrowed directly from Greek and Roman paganism. The cross is a pagan symbol. The cross actually represents, if you go back far enough, Tammuz, a Babylonian god who was actually none other than Nimrod a great opposer of the true God. In the temple the worship of the cross was introduced and Jehovah called it disgusting, and pointed to its prescence in his temple, and the tradition the women had to weep over it (in tradition Tammuz died a violent death, thus they were weeping over this death, and Tammuz was later reborn a god – this by the way is also where they get the evergreen tree in Chirstmas, as Nimrod's wife planted the evergreen sapling at Nimrod's death and said it was the representation of Nimrod, aka Tammuz, aka Marduk, reborn as a God – this is the same teaching of Isis and… Read more »

David
David

I have a question for vigilant i have liked a lot of what you have said on your website but when i came to this part about the LDS church i was interested i read alot of the comments you responded to alot of them that disagree with what you have said except those that have any real argument for example Bryce i think alot of LDS people dont realy know what they are talking about sometimes and talk with alot of passion and some are very intelligent and have a great argument i would like to see you respond to someone that has done research just as i believe you have done yours.

ruff
ruff

I simply feel that you should have researched what significance these symbols have to the Mormons, before concluding. It is interesting however, what we overlook in architecture.

pima
pima

But why keeping somethin which represent evil in a sacred place '' The light and dark can't stay together " don't you see that fellows, '' the blind man can't lead the blind man both will fall into well '' whats wrong if virgilant try to open our mind ,keep it it man GOD will bless you, im a catholic man but it is not enough just to call you acatholic im a catholic because my dad was a catholic , people we must learn to find the truth hiding in our faith than arguing '

police state
police state

I noticed the Morning Star vegan patties have a pentagram w/their logo.

satanic vegan patties. wtf?

yvette
yvette

We are all God's children. Calm down!

Only_God
Only_God

excellent job… I have read about these symbols in the old Egyptian cults , and their black magic and satanic rituals.

and the "every one seeing eye" is in fact the Lucifer eye, and one of the main symbols of Lucifer and freemasons.

I am surprised to see these things are followed in churches as well !!!

I had done a short research on Mormons and LDS and I was shocked knowing what they believe in.

NiggerBreath
NiggerBreath

Religion is just another tool used to divide and manipulate the masses. Why don't all these damn churches pay taxes? Greedy con artist preying on the weak and easily influenced.

Sever
Sever

Great article once again!

Maybe mormons are a bit different in US then they are in Europe. I have a friend who became mormon while age and she didnt change as a person a bit. Only now she doesnt drink alcohol, smoke and doesnt listen to certain kind of music and doesnt mock God and everything spiritual. But Im sure that mormons are very different here. They have a small building which was an old school and no symbolism at all. As basic as it can be. But ofcourse in US capacity of mormons is much more wider.

Aaron
Aaron

I have a friend who is an ex Mormon and along with the many other ex Mormons, they will tell you that it is a cult. (See post 99 & 101). I worked for a company that did heating and air conditioning in some of the Mormon churches. I got to do a lot of work at these churches and as I would go from room to room checking thermostats and equipment I would notice symbols and art that they had along with pictures of the leaders of their faith. I saw a painting in one day that was Jesus with his arms extended and his palms facing up as if he were "preaching" or "giving an account to the masses." The caption at the bottom of the painting said…"Jesus testifies of Joseph Smith." I thought to myself "WOW!" "That is blatant contradiction and these people don't even see it." If Jesus testified of this man Joseph Smith who lived many years after him…..then my bible (if true) should have Joseph Smith in it somewhere. It does not nor does any bible. My Mormon brothers and sisters, my prayers are that Jesus would open your eyes so you would find… Read more »

11th Hour
11th Hour

The reason Cain killed Abel was because Cains offering was not the best. He offered up to God a sheep that was injured (lame). That is why God accepted Ables' offering and not Cains.

the deceiver
the deceiver

scribd.com,silvermedicine.org,detaxcanada.org and wikicompany.org/wiki/911:vatican and jesuits.Do not trust wikipedia or the links on wikicompany articles.Good luck.

Ms J DaCosta
Ms J DaCosta

Were all pawns in a grand game of Chess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crystal
Crystal

Excellent article. Keep up the great work 🙂

read between the lin
read between the lin

Too all the Mormons that are offended by this, don't take it personal. Many other Christian institutions also carry occult symbolism. This was not in Jesus teachings, we have to remember that. These were all created by man, under different times. So don't associate Jesus with these symbols, they don't represent him.

elanloveswolves
elanloveswolves

OH MY GOD.

i always thought mormons were crazy. i bet they're also very blind to the truth.

the videos you have embedded, shocked the s**t out of me,

the way they describe where blacks came from, just terrible.

WalterSobchak
WalterSobchak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtXY4FBTsDc

Check this out for more mormon CONSPIRACIES.

Colt
Colt

Great article Vigilant….

It's really FUNNY to read comments from all those ' Mind Washed ' peoples though.

The one and only rational person seems to be PANASONIC…. The lines you wrote are the only ones that make REAL sense.

Is anyone of you guys ever took the time to THINK BY YOURSELF?

As far as we know, historicaly talking, religions NEVER help peoples… Religions Help Themselves!!!!

They serve only their own interests, which are MONEY and POWER.

The real god, ( if exist ) is within ourselves. We are the only ones abilitated to bring ourselves to Happyness, Wealth and Self Loving.

exmormon
exmormon

Joseph Smith was a Freemason and a con-artist, but most LDS faithful are unaware of the meaning of these symbols. It's less a conspiracy and more ignorance on their part. Ask them what the symbols mean, and they'll say something like the stars (pentagrams), sun, and moon represent the three kingdoms of heaven they believe in. While I despise the religion as a whole, many of its followers are blind sheep who don't know any better and mindlessly stumble after their "prophet" shepherd who leads them wherever he wants them to go.

Cee
Cee

The five pointed star used in freemasonry and also in pagan belief symbolizes the elements of earth and spirit. Each point of the star represents fire, water, air, earth, and spirit. Spirit for freemasons is whatever higher power it is that you believe in. If you are a christian and a freemason then your spirit is God. If you are a satanist then your spirit is satan. To become a freemason you must have belief of a higher power than yourself to set values in your life.

Just wanted to clear up the confusion on the pentagram. It doesn't always represent evil.

With that said, we don't know for sure what the pentagrams placed around and inside the church signify, so we don't know whether they mean good or bad. With the other symbols and placement of those symbols, it doesn't appear to be a very good thing.

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

I have love for the Mormons and it pains me to know that they are actually on the wrong path… although they are some of the kindest people, they are simply unaware… THESE ARE 2 QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE TO ALL MORMONS HERE (hope you guys notice this): but as just said Daciple said… on Galatians 1:6-9, Paul warns us that there is no other Gospel other than the Bible 6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned! How then can you say that The Book of Mormon is the fullness of the Gospel If it is already stated here that there is no… Read more »

Amazed
Amazed

I am Mormon. And believe that this website is biased beyond belief. I also believe that the eye sees what it wants to see. And all you seem to be seeing is devil worshiping. You criticized the band Paramore, who have said that are Christians. You criticized Beyonce who prays before every single performance. Plus, how could we worship the devil if we believed to be worshiping God and Christ? Explain that to me.

James 1:5

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

Pray about this little website. And really think about what it is. Crap

Daciple
Daciple

All I can say is great article and Ive noticed that almost noone commented on the videos that completely debunk the occult freemason and pagan influences found in the false religion of Mormonism. It leaves me in awe that people can go thru these rituals and believe that they are in a Godly Christian Organization. The mere fact that Mormons are too put the Word of Man (Mr. Smith) over the Word of God is directly against the Word of God. If Mormons would just open up their bibles its there plain as day for them to see that Paul specifically warned them against following ANY teachings or faiths that were NOT being taught at that time by him and the other Disciples!!! Gal 1: 6I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, 9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any… Read more »

Jess
Jess

Was the book of Mormon not published in 1830 by Joseph Smith? Not physically but by placing 2 seer stones into his hat, held his hat up to his face to block out the light and read the “golden tablets” that 3 witnesses had apparently seen. And where they also wrote down everything he “read”?? But now one of them are dead and the other two have denied seeing them. Is this not a likeliness of reading crystal balls? Deut. 18:10-12 KJB.
Also, in 1842 Smith became a 33rd degree Freemason? Being found dead with a Jupiter Talisman in his possession. You know I have come across different religions, but I personally believe that Satan, definitely has a hold on this one.
I pray over anyone who reads this and rebuke in the name of Jesus that your eyes will see the truth if not already. Amen

Chainmaker
Chainmaker

Joseph Smith was a charismatic occultist, who stole the rituals and symbols of Freemasonry and created his particularly venomous form of Anti-Christianity on a foundation of witchcraft.

This article is extremely enlightening, being a transcript of a speech given by a prominent Mormon who was “reaching out” to his Masonic brethren.

The Mormon History Association held its Convention at Nauvoo, Illinois, in the old, historic Nauvoo Hotel on Saturday, April 20, 1974. As the immediate Past-President of the organization, Dr. Reed C. Durham, Jr. contributed the climax of the convocation when he delivered the scheduled, traditional Presidential Address, which he titled: “Is There No Help For The Widow’s Son?”

Dr. Durham is the Director of the L. D. S. Institute of Religion, at the University of Utah, 1800 Hempstead Road, Salt Lake City, Utah 84112.

http://www.saintsalive.com/mormonism/nohelp.html

MormonShmormon
MormonShmormon

To spamlds who wrote: “The Church helps the needy, lifts up the downtrodden, comforts those who mourn, and gives millions of dollars in humanitarian aid, as well as millions of man-hours in service to communities. We have no paid clergymen. The Church operates a system of storehouses and production facilities that produce food and necessities that assist tens thousands of people every month. Some two million people where assisted by the Church last year, including those who are not of our faith. Our welfare program has been praised by U.S. Presidents of both parties.” Apparently your “church” is more interested in shopping malls than it is in helping the poor. It gave $60 million in humanitarian aid last year, while at the same time it is spending fifteen times that amount for their shopping mall – the 3 BILLION DOLLAR City Creek Center Mall which is currently under construction. The church is spending over a million dollars a day to build the thing. A fact that many Mormons do not know is that their “church” is spending more than twice the amount on this one mall than it has spent on humanitarian aid in the past 30 years!! In January… Read more »

Dara Smythe
Dara Smythe

You are right about that mall and the fact that a negligible few know anything about it. It is something that troubles me and for which I've not yet gotten a satisfactory explanation. (I do know somewhat of the reason which also bothers me but this is not the place to bring it into question.)

I don't, however, understand what your problem is with Eyring's remark about the Relief Society.

As for you 2 hour limit allowed for charitable work on your mission, were you not on a proselyting mission? If so, then what more charitable work could you possibly be doing than leading souls to Christ and salvation?

Steve
Steve

Also, I just found this Masonic tapestry on this very site:
http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/200

You've got the sun, and the moon, and look who's in the middle…

Dara Smythe
Dara Smythe

How can you tell from that tiny picture? I can barely make out if it's a face. Who or what is it?

Steve
Steve

From post #66 above: The LDS's explanation for the all seeing eye: "All-Seeing Eye. Located atop each of the center towers of the temple is the all-seeing eye of God, which represents God’s ability to see all things." This is the same explanation given by the US government for the eye of providence on the back of the dollar bill. It is the eye of god, but my question for everyone that accepts this explanation is… Which god? The God of the bible has always been depicted with two eyes. We are made in His image, we have two eyes, so therefore we can assume the God of the Bible has two eyes as well – at least symbolically. The God of the bible has never been depicted with one eye. Most other gods throughout history are also depicted as having two eyes as well. So, if it isn't the God of the bible, then which god was depicted as having one eye? It's Horus of the ancient Egyptian Mysteries, of course. His left eye was plucked out by Set. The two main depictions of Horus were the falcon and the wedjat (all seeing eye.) Horus is significant because he… Read more »

Briana
Briana

What astounds me is how a person can get so much right white still managing to get everything wrong. An inverted pentacle represents spirit descendant into matter, sure, but that’s a reference to animism, not Satanism. The church of Satan has adopted it, but this is an old symbol they’ve recently adopted to fit their own purposes.

None of this symbolism has anything to do with Satan. I’m not a Mormon, and I think the faith is borderline ludicrous, but this is just blatant BS. The pentacle and pentagram both predate Christianity, and if it predates Christianity, it predates “Satan.”

That’s a notion you folks came up with. The rest of the world is not so inclined to share it.

TheMysteryCleric
TheMysteryCleric

An interesting point is that the Christian bible, the Authorized King James version, was authorized by a Freemason. See “Freemasonry and the Birth of Modern Science, by Robert Lomas, p.85

Jack
Jack

Wow, I was raised Mormon (I rejected it when I was a teenager) and have actually been to those places and never noticed any of that, very scary stuff indeed. Also on the picture of Christ I also noticed that the planet Earth looks suspiciously like an all seeing eye. For whatever reason the whole world is encompassed by shadow except one little spot where an iris would be, which if that side of the world was dark it would be a physical impossibility for there to be light there.

Nikodim
Nikodim

Мне как преподавателю очень помог этот блог с информацией. Спасибо Вам.

angel
angel

I have been very interested in all your research until this one. Now I question everything you have studied.

I know the mormon church is none of the things you have written its pretty much laughable what you have posted.

Now I'll have to check into more of the other things you have written they are probably false also.

seriously, dude?
seriously, dude?

I agree with you @Angel. This uneducated article on Mormonism challenges everything VigilantCitizen says on this site. I was holding off judgment cuz he didn't seem like an overt wackjob, but honestly? People who accuse Mormons of Satanism are nuts. Or they haven't bothered to do any unbiased research.

But I'm not here to argue. When we're all dead VC can ask God all about the Free Masonry and Mormonism and then we can all wait an see if VC was right all along or if, in fact, he's actually been fighting against God and His divine purposes.

Believe me, I can wait.

seriously, dude?
seriously, dude?

Eep! Typo! When I said "VC can ask God all about the Free Masonry and Mormonism" I meant "Vigilant Citizen can ask God all about the *connection between* Free Masonry and Mormonism"

Scottsman
Scottsman

You couldn’t even get away calling this “unbiased” in my political debate class. Sorry but this doesn’t have any credibility. I don’t know what “research” means in your vocabulary but this doesn’t meet mine.

andrash
andrash

This article is a joke. Who cares what these symbols might mean to you (who has no authority in religious symbolism, nor do you understand Christian faith)? Did you even care to study what these symbols mean to the Church of Jesus Christ?
You lost any claim to authority when you said, “The rituals, symbols and modus-operandi of the LDS are directly lifted from Scottish Rite masonry. The hidden meaning of the art at Temple Square incorporates a mix of pagan and subversive symbology and subtely celebrates the worship of Lucifer…I do not claim to be a specialist of Mormonism or of Joseph Smith Jr., the Mormon prophet. I’ve tried to stay as unbiased as possible in the research and composition of this article.”

The only thing I can agree with in this comic strip is that, you’re certainly no specialist on Mormonism or Joseph Smith.

cazzafizza
cazzafizza

Hilarious… can excellently researched piece of confirmatory bias.

SAKINA
SAKINA

IM SORRY WHAT SANE PERSON WOULD GO AND JOIN THIS I WOUDNT CALL IT A CHURCH I MEAN I CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOUR BORN

INTO IT AND THATS ALL YOU KNOW. THEY THREW IT ALL IN ALIENS GODS AND TO BE HONSET TOOK BITS FROM THE HOLY BIBLE AND TWISTED THEM TO THER OWN WAY TO FOOL PPL THIS IS JUST SICK AN IM SORRY TO SAY IT. IM A MUSLIM AND IM TOLD TO RESPECT THE PPL OF THE BOOK (JEWS CHRISTIANS) AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ALL PRAY TO THE SAME GOD BUT WAT IVE JUST READ AND SEEN IS ON ANOTHER LEVEL IM SHOCKD HOPE I DIDNT UPSET OR INSLUT ANYONE JUST SAYN WAT I FEEL

Jacky Lee
Jacky Lee

hi vigilant citizen, thanks for such an aptly named site ! very informative and eye opening, i’ve been a christian all my life, involved in ministry for the past 26 years, and your articles have really helped me in a big way to make people of the congregation more aware. they have become objective and symbol conscious after reading a few of your articles. Just a little clarity on why God was pleased with Abel’s sacrifice and not Cains, as you article says the reason is unclear. The reason as explained to us, is that when the time came for a sacrifice to be made unto God, we read in Genesis that Abel brought the “firstlings” of the flock, i.e he brought the firstborn, or the choicest of Lambs that were born in that season, however, when refering to Cains sacrifice it does not say that he brought the “first fruits” as his sacrifice, which allows us to believe that, that couldve been the reason why God was not pleased with his sacrifice, because he didnt give the best of his harvest, which was very important in sacrifices to God, giving him the best and first portion of any sacrifice,… Read more »

Ian
Ian

Hello to all, Have you heard the phrase “throwing out the baby with the bath water”? It happens constantly in arguments pertaining Joseph Smith Jr., and the L.D.S. Church as it exists today. We often become so obsessed with proving our own point, that we miss the real point. I submit for your consideration that Joseph Smith as a true prophet of God is the real point, which is glazed over far to often in the march to prove the evils contained within the L.D.S. doctrine. I believe it is that old serpent, up to his same old tricks…one of them being, misdirection. You will note, upon careful study, that the spurious L.D.S. doctrines that have come to be argued over constantly, were never a part of the teachings of the prophet Joseph Smith. They were introduced after his murder in 1844. A student of history will note that there is no proof of him actually having multiple wives, or sanctioning any of the strange and scripture wresting practices now held by the L.D.S. ( noting that since late 1970’s polygamy has been put away in L.D.S practice). For those earnestly seeking truth, I submit to you that Joseph Smith,… Read more »

DoctorX
DoctorX

Неплохой ресурсик, буду постоянно пользоваться, при условии постоянного обновления.

Derek
Derek

Lols. Internet arguments are funny.
I think there is plenty of research that has been done on both sides of the argument with articles and opinions supporting both points of view. I’ve read that the pentagram can be used in both contexts, and likewise can be understood to be both holy and evil.
Vigilant, one thing to be said about using the confirmations of Ex-Mormons to argue a point. I know many disgruntled former Mormons who will confirm that the LDS church is a cult that brainwashes, practices black magic, etc., but I also know many ex-mormons who have experienced these temple ceremonies and will tell you that it is not anything like that. It depends on who you talk with, and I felt that the way you presented the argument was only to present the one side. Of course, you’re aguing a point, you would want statements to back up your point of view, but I feel it might help to show some of the other side. Does that make sense?
I appreciate your opinion and presenting it here, it’s helped me and my opinion on the matter.

M.J.F
M.J.F

BY THE WAY,THIS IS MY TESTOMNY. GOD INSTRUCTED ME TO VISIT THE TEMPLE IN SALT LAKE CITY UT. WHEN THE DAYS ARE AT THIER LONGEST. SO, ARRIVED ON JUNE 21,2009 2000 MI FROM THE EAST, IN UT. NOT KNOWING WHAT ID FIND,I THOUGHT I WAS THERE TO SPEAK TO THEM AND/OR DELIVER A MESSAGE. HOWEVER, THEY WOULDNT LISTEN TO ME. THEY TOLD ME TO WORRY ABOUT SAVING MYSELF INSTED OF THEM, AND THAT IF GOD WANTED TO GET A MESSAGE TO THEM, IT WOULD COME FROM THIER PROPHET, ( TOM MONSON) WHOM THEY BELEIVED WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT GOD WOULD COMUNICATE THRU FOR THEM! ( I WONDER, IF THEY BELIVE THESE ARE IN FACT THE LAST DAYS, THEN HOW IS IT THAT AN 80 SOMETHING YR OLD MAN IS GODS TRUE PROPHET? WHEN THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATES, IN THE END TIMES YOUR OLD MEN WILL DREAM DREAMS, YOUR YOUNG MEN WILL HAVE VISIONS,AND YOUR SON N DAUGHTERS WILL PROPHECY!!! ) BTW, A FEW DAYS BEFORE I ARRIVED LIGHTING STUCK THE ANGEL ATOP THE CHURCH THAT HOLDS A TRUMPET. IT TURNED HALF OF THE GOLDEN STATUE BLACK. AND WHEN THE LIGHTING HIT IT, IT SOUNDED A BLAST THAT WAS SO… Read more »

M.J.F
M.J.F

BY THE WAY…THIS IS MY TESTOMNY. GOD INSTRUCTED ME TO VISIT THE TEMPLE IN SALT LAKE CITY UT. WHEN THE DAYS WERE AT THIER LONGEST. SO, ARRIVED ON JUNE 21,2009 2000 MI FROM THE EAST, IN UT. NOT KNOWING WHAT ID FIND,I THOUGHT I WAS THERE TO SPEAK TO THEM AND/OR DELIVER A MESSAGE. HOWEVER, THEY WOULDNT LISTEN TO ME. THEY TOLD ME TO WORRY ABOUT SAVING MYSELF INSTED OF THEM, AND THAT IF GOD WANTED TO GET A MESSAGE TO THEM, IT WOULD COME FROM THIER PROPHET, ( TOM MONSON) WHOM THEY BELEIVED WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT GOD WOULD COMUNICATE THRU FOR THEM! ( I WONDER, IF THEY BELIVE THESE ARE IN FACT THE LAST DAYS, THEN HOW IS IT THAT AN 80 SOMETHING YR OLD MAN IS GODS TRUE PROPHET? WHEN THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATES, IN THE END TIMES YOUR OLD MEN WILL DREAM DREAMS, YOUR YOUNG MEN WILL HAVE VISIONS,AND YOUR SON N DAUGHTERS WILL PROPHECY!!! ) BTW, A FEW DAYS BEFORE I ARRIVED LIGHTING STUCK THE ANGEL ATOP THE CHURCH THAT HOLDS A TRUMPET. IT TURNED HALF OF THE GOLDEN STATUE BLACK. AND WHEN THE LIGHTING HIT IT, IT SOUNDED A BLAST THAT WAS SO… Read more »

Dara Smythe
Dara Smythe

If you weren't supposed to be there to deliver a message, why were you supposed to be there? Why is it so difficult to see that those to whom you spoke (and I'm sure they weren't inside the temple) either on or off Temple Square may or may not have all been LDS people and that in either case probably felt much as you would if one of them came to you trying to "save" you?

M.J.F
M.J.F

IF THE WHITE IMAGE OF JESUS WE HAVE COME TO KNOW AND LOVE LOOKS NOTHING LIKE WHAT THE REAL JESUS WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE, THEN WHO IS THIS WHITE MAN??? COULD IT BE CESARE BORGIA!!!( SON OF POPE ALAXANDER IV) RESERCH THAT NAME, HIS IMAGE, AND FAMILY BACKROUND FOR YOURSELF TO SEE! REGARDLESS, THE CHRISTUS STATUE CAME FROM THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. A CHURCH THAT FITS THE DEFFANITION OF NICOLATIONS! ( WICH THE BIBLE TELLS US JESUS HATES) THEREFORE, THIS FALSE IMAGE OF JESUS PASSED DOWN TO US BY THE ROMAN CATHOLICS FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION MAY HAVE US UNKNOWINGLY WORSHIPING A FALSE IDOL! THIS IS THE WORST OFFENCE TO GOD! ( HE TELLS US SO IN THE OLD TESTIMATE AND THE NEW) I TRULY BELIEVE ITS SAFE TO SAY THAT WHOMEVER IS RESPOSIBLE FOR PUTTING A STRANGER ON GOD’S OR CHRIST’S THROWN IS DECIEVING THE WORLD! IF JESUS LOOKED NOTHING LIKE THE STATUES AND PICTURES THAT RESEMBLE CESARE BORGIA , AND WE ARE REFURRING TO THIS FALSE “JESUS” IMAGE AS THE “LORD” AND GIVING IT WORSHIP, HONOR AND RESPECT, THEN PERHAPS SATAN HAS SUCEEDED IN HIS MASTER PLAN TO BECOME LIKE GOD BY TRICKING THE WORLD INTO WORSHIPING HIM.… Read more »

deb
deb

seth r:
“The main reason Mormons don’t use the cross is probably the same reason that Southern Baptists or Methodists in the 1800s didn’t use the cross – it was negatively associated with the papacy. Most Protestant denominations in America during that time period rejected use of the cross as a symbol because it was negatively linked with Roman Catholicism.”

if they dont use the cross because it is associated with something negative, why would they then use the pentagram? the pentagram, despite arguments, is negatively associated with satanism…so you clearly know it is associated with something negative.. a little contradictory dont you think?

James
James

deb: at the time Mormons began used the pentagram it was NOT associated with the devil. That association came later. BTW the pentagram is associated with the Devil through Isaiah 13-14, where the Babylonian king is actually spoken of, not the Devil. The idea was that the Babylonian king in his pride had taken to himself a symbol reserved for God, namely Venus, the "morning star" associated with Christ in Rev. 22:16, with the angels of God in Job 38:7, and with the followers of Christ in Rev. 2:28. There can be no doubt that it is Biblical fact that the morning star (Venus) was originally used as a symbol of Christ and his followers. Thus Isaiah's point is rather clever and requires some careful thought. Why would he use a symbol of God to describe the king of Babylon? He uses the phrase: "hillel ben shahar" meaning "shining one sun of the dawn," badly translated as "Lucifer (Latin for Venus) sun of the dawn," although there can be no doubt that he is referring to the planet Venus, the shining star that appears just before the dawn, thus the "son of the dawn.". Immediately after this passage, Isaiah then… Read more »

James
James

Oh my, I have to pick one thing to set the record straight on… let's start with the firstfruits, since that is the most obviously false point. The Bible demands an offering "of the firstfruits" of the ground (see Lev. 23). Both the firstlings of the flocks and the firstfruits of the ground symbolize Jesus, who was the first born (firstfruits) of them that slept (1 Cor. 15:20,23). The growing of a seed has a lot in common with the resurrection. The seed appears to die, is planted in the ground, but then comes back to life with increase. No wonder the firstfruits are such a wonderful representation of the Saviour! This seed resurrection image is the central message of 1 Cor. 15. Both the sacrifice of the firstborn lamb and the firstfruits represent Christ, just in different ways. Another common Biblical usage of the idea of the firstfruits is the allegory of the first converts being the "firstfruits" to God. This idea is common throughout the New Testament, for example: Romans 16:5 and James 1:18. They aren't implying that the first converts were all devil worshippers because they were connected with Cain's offering. Clearly Cain's offering was not accepted… Read more »

clady
clady

Wow… Isn't Glenn Beck a Mormon?

Jason
Jason

It is easy try and explain away OBVIOUS satanic symbols with the arguement of "they have many meanings". So I will leave that alone and focus on the distorted cain and abel offering. If the bible says God REJECTED cains fruit offering why is it made to look like the offering the Lord accecpted? It is a Biblical fact that God rejected the fruit. So if we understand that fact we can apply that same logic to the reason pagans used the perverted symbols. Logical thinking would tell you it is the EXACT OPPPOSITE of what the truth is and what God wanted. In reality it is its own satanic symbol. All a satnic symbol means is the opposite of what God's symbol means. A pentagram right side up means one thing as does a pentagram up side down. This is not rocket science. It is meant to display the opposite of gods word. So when you put that with the other occult symbolisms that are present at those temples it kinda put the theory of the mormons using those symbals out of ingnorance of meaning or an alternate meaning to rest. Lastly, for the mormons who believe your works… Read more »

sans
sans

Hello, First up, the “creepy” image is a composite image. I have walked by that bronze (and the others) many times. It is not located where it is depicted in the image. Secondly, LDS folks tend not to wear or display a crucifix because it is a gross depiction of death. Basically, why have the dead saviour on display, yet along on your neck? Thirdly, to the comment writer, the “unpaid volunteers for periods up to two years” are for proselyting. Some other Xian denominations will do missionary work that entail digging wells and building schools. Knocking on doors is not really a community-building sort of volunteer work. Forthly, Joseph Smith was a treasure hunter who was into the esoteric nature of magick and Freemasonry. He did not know anything about the stuff. He hijacked the symbols because he thought they were neat, because, as it was then it is still today the secret s**t is cool to youngins. Seriously, the author of this article gives Smith _way_ too much credit. He was a young guy with a creative imagination who borrowed symbols for purely aesthetic reasons. Smith then created his owning meaning around them.Sure he used some scraps from… Read more »

Light
Light

I must correct you on your interpretation of the light source and the statue of Christ. The best example of this is the picture of the Prophet and the 12 Apostles in front of Christ. Look at the light source on the earth and the moon. The light source on the earth and moon are not parallel, meaning, the light originates from a single point. Now if you imagine that Christ is not standing in front of the planets but out in space looking over his creation, the light source is his face. In this sense he is both out looking over his creation and right in front of you where you can touch him. He is both omnipotent and personable at the same time.

You should visit, it is quite inspiring.

William Pritchett
William Pritchett

In your article you stated that the reason Cain’s sacrifice was rejected is not clear. Actually the reason is that the sacrifice specified by God is the blood of an innocent, spotless victim. This prefigured the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus on the cross. Absolutely nothing else would suffice.

Lotsa facts, though! Dang!

mrhumblelong
mrhumblelong

It is interesting to see the "incompatible" symbols inside and on the temple of the major Christian denomination. Each symbols of the occult can be either good or evil depending on what one believes and acts. There are only a few of them that I have comments on. First, the Christus. The statue of Jesus Christ in the center of the universe setting. He is said to be the light of the world. Sometimes he is referred as the Son of the Sun. Jesus is the offspring of the Creator who made Him and also as joint heirs with God. He made Him so we can be like Him. Jesus overshadowing the planet earth even as the "Light of the World". Well, Jesus is co-creator with God, and the sun is only the creation. The earth can not be all lighted, otherwise the plants and animals and people would go crazy if the light is 24/7. The plants feed on the rays of the daylight sun, and grow in the dark, the same as we humans get inspired in the light of Christ, and grows in the darkness when Christ is not with us, even though we think of his… Read more »

Josiah
Josiah

The following information is accessible via the LDS website. The information contradicts some of the claims in the above article. The designers of the temple used deliberate symbolism. A symbol can have more than one meaning. Temple Symbolism Rich symbolism adorns the exterior of the Salt Lake Temple, depicting mankind's journey from mortality into the eternal realms. Perhaps Elder J. Golden Kimball expressed it best when he stated: "When I think about that building, every stone in it is a sermon to me."1 Following is a summary of some of the major symbolism of the Salt Lake Temple: Angel Moroni. The angel Moroni depicts both a messenger of the restoration of the gospel and a herald of the Second Coming: "for the Son of Man shall come, and he shall send his angels before him with the great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together the remainder of his elect from the four winds" (JS-M 1:37). Towers. The three towers on the east side represent the First Presidency of the Church and the Melchizedek Priesthood; the twelve pinnacles rising from the towers represent the Twelve Apostles. The three towers on the west side represent the Presiding Bishopric and… Read more »

pm-effa
pm-effa

peepz are always talkin about these people being civilized now tell me… is this civilized? HELL NO.

nuttyriv3r
nuttyriv3r

This has created quite the discussion. I enjoyed and appreciate the article. It was certainly revealing, and an additional effort needed for the masses. I have been involved in the Mormon church as a member when I was a child. It has taken nearly 20 years for me to truly ask God to wake me up with the Truth…and bless Him he kept His promise. “Those who seek righteousness will receive it.” So here is my message. Thanks to the fake Jesus Christ I believed in through the LDS church for most of my life, I led a life of depression, drug abuse, occultism, alcoholism, idolatry, lying, sexual immorality, theft, solitude, self worship, hatred, rage, law breaking, and much more. Refer to 2 Timothy Chapter 3 and on. Nice list of who I was there. Maybe you can suggest I was a bad apple and didn’t follow the doctrine good enough, but what I found out last year was God called me out. Hallelujah! Thank you, Almighty. See, the bottom line with LDS doctrine is this: Jesus Christ is a created being…an angel. He is the brother of the Devil. God liked Jesus more, so he become the Son of… Read more »

edsfsd
edsfsd

I don't believe Jesus is God. There is one God and Jesus was a mortal human. He was a genuine Prophet of God but his words were twisted and perverted to such an extent that they are the opposite of his teachings. He preached against idolatry and now the devil has him idolized by pagans.

Thank you
Thank you

Thank you for your comment. It was beautiful. I suggest, not only Mormans, but every person in religion to read your comment. People get so caught up in the traditions of their religions and fail to notice that its not the religion they should be following but Jesus, my Lord and Savior, himself. He is the only way to heaven, please understand this people!

nuttyriv3r – God bless and again thanks for your comment 🙂

Human
Human

The reality is, Jesus was the Solar Deity of the Gnostic Christian sect, and like all other Pagan gods, he was a mythical figure. It was the political establishment that sought to historize the Jesus figure for social control. By 325 a.d. in Rome, emperor Constantine convened the Council of Nicea. It was during this meeting that the politically motivated Christian Doctrines were established and thus began a long history of Christian bloodshed and spiritual fraud. And for the next 1600 years, the Vatican maintained a political stranglehold on all of Europe, leading to such joyous periods as the Dark Ages, along with enlightening events such as the Crusades, and the Inquisition. Christianity, along with all other theistic belief systems, is the fraud of the age. It serves to detach the species from the natural world, and likewise, each other. It supports blind submission to authority. It reduces human responsibility to the effect that "God" controls everything, and in turn awful crimes can be justified in the name of Divine Pursuit. And most importantly, it empowers those who know the truth but use the myth to manipulate and control societies. The religious myth is the most powerful device ever created,… Read more »

EA
EA

I noticed that the water feature in the aerial view of the temple also is depicted in the shape of the architects eye.

Panasonic
Panasonic

Beam me up Scotty, there's no rational life here! You're all insane, fighting for your conditioned dogma. Morman, Christian, Mason, Jew, Scientist, doesn't matter, heads full of symbols that ultimately mean nothing, meaningless propositions that divide you and control you, dogma, dogma, dogma. You fell for it, more fool you. If a symbol didn't get you, fractional banking will, if money doesn't trap you, law will, it's an endless game of control, trap after trap to enslave your mind and protect the interests of the rich and powerful. You're all here on Earth for just a moment, we are the universe evolved to observe itself, we're all one and the same, there is no evil in the universe, for evil is a subjective perception, it's a man made idea that takes responsibility out of the hands of the stupid and terrified humans that created that created the problem in the first place. Everything you believe is a man made idea, NOTHING IS TRUE, EVERYTHING IS PERMITTED. Belief in anything is utter stupidity, accepting any ideology as absolute shuts out all other possibilities and lumps you into a cult with a closed and fearful mind, it is the death of intelligence.… Read more »

undrgrndgirl
undrgrndgirl

hey, no future? which scum are you?

undrgrndgirl
undrgrndgirl

there are no crosses on ANY mormon buildings…for mormon's the cross represents christ's death rather than his life…and they prefer to focus on what christ did in his life rather than the particulars of his death…

Sleazy P. Martini
Sleazy P. Martini

After getting on the subject of BLACK HELICOPTERS with some Mormons that came to my door for a chat ( Gee , one flew by within minutes of mentioning them) , I haven’t seen them at my door in years. Thank you BLACK HELICOPTERS.

Halimah bint David
Halimah bint David

Bismillaah (In the name of Allaah)

I saw many of these things first hand when I lived in Salt Lake City, Utah. It is interesting to see how much of the occult is on their buildings. They do not like yo to be physically looking at it for extensive periods of time or asking them about it. They will get very nervous and seemingly 'stalk' you until you leave their grounds.

Thanks for the post it was very interesting.

Halimah bint David

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MrBill
MrBill

To: No Future

Chill out, man. Smoke a doobie or something. We invented the cheeseburger, didn't we?

MrBill
MrBill

What. A. Zoo.

Good job, vig. One thing, though. DO YOUR RESEARCH. Gotta love it. Right up there with YOU CAN'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON THE INTERNET.

When the student is ready, the teacher will come.

no future
no future

America is evil, it attracted all the scum of the earth; sectarians ,jews and all those kicked out, or loosers who could not function in the Old World. And this mongrel nation with it’s satanic rites tries to impose it’s leadership on the rest of the world.

atlantexvl
atlantexvl

Yes no future, that is the sad true of this countri even if I now live here.

ChildOfGod
ChildOfGod

As Children of God, compromising is not what we were called to do!

Jesus didn't come to bring peace, but to divide. That's because this world belongs to Satan, so obviously a large majority of people will be for Satan. They even killed Jesus (the majority, I mean). Jesus came to save us that believed in him!

The color Gray, although it isn't a total lie (like black), still isn't the total TRUTH (like white). And we're not talking about races. Race doesn't matter.

Those of us who choose to follow Jesus, we should stay away from the dark (black) and the false (gray), because both of them are the opposite of truth, light and purity (white).

http://www.666truth.org

God Bless

Voice
Voice

A church is simply a building, nothing more. There is no "true church". Another thing, we are to worship God, and God ONLY. So why are people worshiping Christ? Being a Christian means that you believe in him, and the story of his salvation -not in worship of him, yet people look to him as if he is God himself. There is a lot of ignorance in this world. The Mormon people are great people, as are many people of many religions. Too bad more people can't come together rather than finding ways to segregate themselves from each other; which indeed seems to be just what the devil wants. As far as prophets are concerned some people are given the gift of sight as mentioned in Corinthians, but also mentioned in John, it is said that there will be no more prophets after John. So this business of appointing so called "prophets is crappola. They might as well be honest with themselves and refer to them as "businessmen". God doesn't ask for your money so why should the church? As a matter of fact God referred to it as "the root of all evil". 30 billion dollars of evil is… Read more »

Jay Grimes
Jay Grimes

Just a note: Able sacrificed of the "firstlings" of his flock – the first fruit – symbolically the best he had to offer. Cain on the other hand did not – he simply made an offering. The concept of "firstfruits" would later be born out with the advent of tithing of firstfuits – the first 10%.

killuminator
killuminator

mormons or morons????

Morgan
Morgan

hah. So…clever.

clark
clark

even though Im not vigilent or a citizen I really like this site,keep up the great work….

popesniffer
popesniffer

oh leave those nice blond wack jobs alone. it's hard inventing a religion. they had only a short time to catch up with the jews and catholics. so leave them ole pentangles alone. dont forget when they all die they will be transported to some planet somewhere in their holy underwear. and after all.. dont that sound like a nice thing??????

xeridae
xeridae

@jettboy

So basically what you want us to believe is that every single symbol that was pointed out and has been considered a reference to the occult, evil, and masonic rituals through out time is suddenly not simply because Mormons use them?

Should we also believe that the devil himself is no longer evil because the Mormons worship him?

There is nothing you can say to defend your faith for the simple fact that it is a lie, albeit a cleverly disguised one.

dick
dick

Remember, freedom of religion includes freedom from religion…

just a thought…

xeridae
xeridae

@Dan Knudsen

Isn't it sad that you can write that much and still have no argument?

Even if what you say is true, the Mormon faith was established during a time when pagan and occult symbols were well known.

Although you are partly right in your ignorance. Some Pagan and Satanic symbols are taken from christianity. They are just perversions of those symbols. FYI that's how black magic works.

As for the baptism's, I think the issue there is that it's done without consent. Probably because Mormon's are the superior authority and don't need consent. I don't know just a guess…

Ex Mormon
Ex Mormon

Thank you for writing this! I was unfortunately born into that cult. They brainwash you from the time you are little. Everything deals with black magic….but they describe it as "the power of the priesthood" I actively speak out against them as they are an evil cult. They exploit their members for money and abuse them in numerous ways. I hope the good Mormon people who still believe they are worshipping Christ will wake up and see who their savior really is. I have viseted temple square often growing up as a child….and I remember all of those things. I asked my mother what the Moon Stars etc meant…She would just say "Oh that represents the different kingdoms you will go to after the final judgement……." Perverse! Everything in this religion is a lie.

Philip, a Mormon convert
Philip, a Mormon convert

Everything is a lie, huh?

As you have grown up in the church, you must surely remember the first Article of Faith:

“We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.”

That was the first thing I learned from the Missionaries.
I love the Church, and all its teachings. Yes, sometimes I get confused with the deep doctrines, but over time I gain knowledge, and through learning, I gain understanding.

If I knew you personally, perhaps I could understand your grievances against the church. But because I do not, I will not contend against you.

Despite our differences, we are still children of God. His love overcomes all.
May God Bless you 🙂

Moi
Moi

Dude…the money they "exploit" is called tithing and the church uses it to help people who need it. My family has been helped many times because the church had the money to help us. They're not "exploiting" it, it's more of a donation. People just choose to donate, but it's not a requirement.

Luath
Luath

Read the book " the Godmakers" by Ed Decker and Dave Hunt.

ALEX
ALEX

Hi, I am a mormon and I was introduced to the similatities between the freemasonry and LDS church by an elder of the Church. Just like that. I do understand that it is not very common that this kind of knowledge is passed but it does happen. Very good article , congrats.however I would like you to go further. as I have experienced the temple rites, I can tell you that the symbols and imaginery are nothing compared to what is happening inside those buildings. Believe me it is fascinating! anyway -congrats and awaiting other articles .

al
al

“. One can’t help but wonder: what does this piece represent if not a sense of resentment (maybe even defiance) towards a cruel and unjust god? Why do we portray Cain’s offering which was rejected by God? The meaning of this arrangement falls right into the beliefs of luciferians, who see God as a stubborn tyrant.”

1- why shouldn’t human beings show defiance toward a cruel and unjust “God?”- After all, the “God” of the old Testament, was a psycho Jehovah- usurper of THE God, Creator of ALL THINGS.
2-“God”?Jehovah W A S / is a stubborn tyrant.

SO! You present all this revelation aand calumny against another sect of christianity. You’s sort of “tattle- telling.”- because YOU WANT TO BRING PEOPLE TO EVANGELISM! After all, you have, above, Jesus loves you.”

Jerry Bolduc
Jerry Bolduc

Inverted pentagrams are a symbol of evil? Ho-hum…*yawn*

Take a look at this…this will show you where the nonsensical, fear riddled idea of "the occult" really comes from:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=477359030

Why don't you try to understand the truth instead of always knocking it?

Dan Knudsen
Dan Knudsen

How do you know that Mormons took those symbols from the Pagans and Satanists? Have you ever thought that the Pagans and Satanists could’ve taken those symbols from the original Christians? Mormons claim that Christianity began with Adam being taught about Christ; therefore, these symbols were stolen by the Pagans and Satanists and their meanings changed to what you believe them to be now, but which Mormons believe had different meanings in the beginning. As for the baptisms for the dead done by Mormons: If Mormonism is false, as you’re claiming, then these baptisms don’t mean anything to anybody and have just been a waste of our time. So, what’s the big fuss all about anyhow, and how is it horrible when it doesn’t do anything to anyone–how stupid is this griping about it when it means nothing to you and can’t possibly do any damage to those for whom it was done? It’s really just a kindergarten- or first grade-level argument masquerading as a college degree-level argument. (Have you ever realized that with the Mormons wasting all this time doing baptisms, that it prevents them from committing adultery with your spouses? According to your interpretation, Satan really missed the… Read more »

xxeno1
xxeno1

Unfortunately, side bar ads are not really managed by the poster, but by keywords.. I get a different ad every time I refresh.

mondo cool
mondo cool

Very interesting post here. But, I was struck by the little side-bar advertisement, "Religious Art by Simon Dewey" showing a depiction of Jesus holding a shepherd's crook. That crook symbol really belongs to the Egyptian God Osiris and it seems a wee bit blasphemous the have the Savior representing a pagan religion.

I guess the core intent of that art is to lead people away from what Christ really is?

xxeno1
xxeno1

It is amazing how so many people claiming to Christians are in fact worshiping one or more forms of Satanism. The 2 biggest cults proclaiming to be Christians, are the Roman Catholic Church, and the Mormon Church(LDS—Lucifers Death Squad). Neither of them follow any true teachings of Jesus. Neither of them teach from the Bible. The Bible being "The Word of God".. This being said, any church that has used murder, and excommunication to denounce or destroy anyone who questioned them, is not truly of God. Jesus told the congregation of men who were going to stone Mary to death, "Let Ye among you who is without SIN cast the first stone." How can anyone proclaim they are without sin? Only Jesus was. That means, the church has no right to kill, because there is no one alive or who has ever lived, save Jesus, who had the right to kill. In Mathew 5:17-20, Jesus tells us that the laws and the prophets are not done away with, and that we are to follow the commandments of God. Not just the 10 commandments, but all the laws in Leviticus. Mat 5:17 Think not that I came to destroy the law… Read more »

john karri
john karri

The seven day adventist not only freed me from the pagan sabbath cult of mormonism but from every sunday demonination, when I learnt that as you said in your artical that there was something greater than the temple, and that was keeping the 7th day holy and always remember it. This was to distingush those who truly live all the 10 commandments, and not fall into the trap of having anything to do with the pagen sun worshipping day, that was and still is a mockery to Christ. The levitical tribe who were the only tribe out of the 12 that didnt turn to goldern calf worship when moses came down from mt Sini, who claimed by everlasting law the saturday was the 4th commandment as moses tried to warn the people that this law would never change. Yet how dare mormons who claim by the book of mormon tribe that is suppose to be direct linage to the tribe of joesph and the levites to justify sunday is ok to worship because the modern prophet says it is alright. It was the very levites in the first place that was the most strict about saturday sabbath law. Also you… Read more »

Moi
Moi

"Lucifer's Death Squad" c(= lol, actually it stands for "Latter Day Saints" and it's written all over the buildings, but okay.

Moi
Moi

“Lucifer’s Death Squad” c(= lol, actually it stands for “Latter Day Saints” and it’s written all over the buildings, but okay.

Ho
Ho

Inverted Star, Cross are not Christian symbols; there aren't any because they violate Commandment #2. Jesus was crucified on a Tree using Deut 21:23 as justification. Eagle is the symbol of Esau exhalting himself as the eagle; Beehive is where worker bees serve the queen aka Mother of God. Bee is Dabar in Chaldee which is also Word and Lie as Lucifer is the Chaldean god of light and lies. Tralslation: Esau (fake Jews) carries the Lies for Lucifer aka Baphomet aka Goat of Mendes which represents revenge for Jacob using Goat fur and hair to impersonate Esau (Gen 27:40). Zionism is Edomite religion and besides Jerusalem, Salt Lake is a major center.

Wroth
Wroth

Numerous scandalous baptisms have taken place where, for example, holocaust victims were baptized without the family’s consent. More recently, Barak Obama’s mother, who died of cancer has been baptised by the Mormons without consent.

^ I was not previously aware of this, but have since confirmed it. Despicable.

Religion is Dungeons and Dragons for people who never want the game to end.

James
James
Pat
Pat

"So you Mormons actually call this star the Morning Star?? What does the elongated point represent? The article doesn’t dare to say. It represents “the fall”. Fall of the Morning Star. Lucifer, not Jesus." Actually the article does dare say what the morning star represents along with possible interpretations of the elongated point, mostly in the footnotes. Of note Christ called himself the morning star (Revelation 22:16). Also in dealing with the Nauvoo temple: "The careful observer will notice that the starstones of the Nauvoo Temple are located directly above depictions of the “rising” or morning sun (Smith, History of the Church, Vol. 7, 323–324), and the elongated ray of each star is pointed down toward the sun as if the star were drawing its light from that source (just as Venus / the Morning Star actually does)." Before reading this I would have assumed anyway that the elongated point was in reference to the birth of the Savior when a star was placed in the sky to point the way to Christ. Many, many depictions on the birth of Christ have stars with elongated points at the bottom. You have two interpretations now on how a star with an… Read more »

Kerron
Kerron

Information is power!

As to why God accepted Abel's offering and not Cain's, we have learned that our sins cannot be forgiven without the shedding of blood. In Old Testament days they used various animals depending on the type of sin but only reason why we don't need to the same is because Jesus came and died once and for all so really when we sin we crucify Jesus anew each time. And I don't think it is that Cain didn't know what God required, he just wanted God to accept what he brought and I think it is the same thing with how we worship God today. He requires us to worship Him a certain…He even require a day but we say "its not when we worship but who we worship." He will hold us all responsible one day for not doing what He said we are to do.

Eye opening information though……truly truly.

Lola
Lola

I actually never thot of the mormons as christians….u've given me more reason that they are liars and decievers……..

Gregory
Gregory

I once met a man that was from Canada looking for work. He was in construction. He told me that he mostly worked in contracted buildings, such as churches. He told me that there would often be an individual or more that would dictate certains designs and patterns represent occult symbols be built into the very foundations and cut into the wood at the early foundation and framing stages. This was not done with the knowledge of the people, but of the few in power. He worked for such a company that did that sort of thing. So, to me, we know that certain architectural designs reflect the philosophies that are hidden in plain sight. To not recognize that symbols are a language and are used through generations to this day in a silent language, is to be sleeping. This esoteric language harkens back to those early ones that tried to manipulate the elements of life and the forces of nature to harness their power and control them. There is nothing new under the sun, and to deny these things exist for intended agenda is to not know history at all. Wake up! Great article.

Curious K
Curious K

Symbols mean different things to different people… Excuse me for saying so but the meaning of the original symbol still holds true regardless of what "new intentions" are placed behind it. So if you put ancient symbols for black magic all over your church and say that the symbols now mean jelly beans and sunshine, you have not changed the original meaning or purpose of said symbol. With that said… why would you put ancient symbols from black magic and yes DEVIL WORSHIP all over your church? Even if you "change the meaning"? Why would you do that?

So maybe you all ought to "do a little more research". Besides it's not too late you can always choose another Jesus based faith. After all he is the one true god and the only way to salvation is through him… so i don't think you have to go through a religion that is in its infancy to get to him. After all Christianity is older than Mormonism so…

Popsiclestand
Popsiclestand

I would say it's the same reason people get tattoos of Kanji symbols with no idea of the multiple meanings of those symbols — they just think it looks cool. Why did the Nazis choose the already taken swastika? Why do fertility symbols represent life in agrarian cultures and subversion in mainly male-centered religions? Symbols only have the meaning that people give to them. That meaning changes over time according to circumstance. The fact that such changeable meaning strikes such fear/aggression/repulsion in you is an indicator of the power of symbols over your life. Lazy minds would prefer that symbol meanings remain the same in every situation simply because the world would make more sense that way, but that is not the case. The world and we humans that occupy it don't make much consistent sense actually, but a nice black and white "this is evil/this is good" wrapping paper would help many sleep better at night. I do not doubt that VC is a person well studied on the meaning of symbols throughout time, which is the reason I even read this website. But putting on his "symbol meaning for a certain time and place" glasses to read every… Read more »

Moi
Moi

Agreed

Dr. Manatoba
Dr. Manatoba

1. Seth R, Constatine was not a Christian Emperor by any stretch of the imagination.

2. The inverted pentagram is not sacred to true Christianity. You cannot extrapalate that falsehood from the textbook of Christianity. Numerology is the re-occuring symbology in the Bible, not so much inanimate objects/symbols. (they may represent things, but are NOT sacred)

Just to clarify the story of Cain and Abel. God was angry because He gave specific instructions and guidelines for sacrifice, which Cain did not follow. The bible states God does not delight in sacrifice.” and also poses the question “Is it not better to OBEY than to sacrifice.” The problom was Cain’s motive, so God simply did not accept his sacrifice which caused Cain to be angry. Abel questions him, Cain takes his anger out on his brother.

Not a huge bearing on the overall article which was good, informative and consistant with the understood meaning of existing symbology.

I hope people can put bias and anger aside and allow themselves to be educated.

Seth R.
Seth R.

What's wrong with numerology and symbolism? Or the Knights Templar for that matter?

The main reason Mormons don't use the cross is probably the same reason that Southern Baptists or Methodists in the 1800s didn't use the cross – it was negatively associated with the papacy. Most Protestant denominations in America during that time period rejected use of the cross as a symbol because it was negatively linked with Roman Catholicism.

Over time, the rest of American Protestantism got over this hang-up. But Mormonism developed in isolation from these trends out in Utah. So we don't use it. Now we have various reasons you'll hear Mormons giving for why we don't use it. But originally, it was simply because no one else was doing it.

It's more a historical accident than anything sinister.

JKR
JKR

If you'd like a balanced counter-point to Vigilant's article, please see: http://en.fairmormon.org/Symbols_on_the_Nauvoo_Te

Vigilant, if after reading the article at the link that I posted you still think that what you wrote is valid, then so be it. However, any objective person would wisely see that your attempts to draw parallels between symbols in the LDS church (and specifically the inverted star) and the occult are shallow at best. Good luck in your search for the truth. I would advise, however, that searching for truth in the vast variations of counter-cult ministries is like slapping lipstick on a swine in an effort to convince someone that kissing a pig is a good idea.

ustadjee
ustadjee

Good effort, no reason or research can prove false or truth unless the audieunce actually has faith and accepts the facts that are merely just opinions. No research is going to prove anything unless Jesus himself comes down and tells the people the truth. Until then we must carry on and search for the truth. Satan exists and his followers are hard at work. They are preparing for the arrival of the anti-christ. Mormon or any other religion, is not an invention of man, the changes made by men to corrrupt the truth is what makes us lose our faith in god. Due to this popular culture and scintific thories derived by using man made languages and numbers, are limited and hence i our knowledge. Take Darwinism for instance in Muslim faith god cursed a group of people who were follow the commandments, they did not and they were made into apes. Since then all monkeys, chimps, guerrillas come from that race. Scientists believe that humans came from them, evolution, no solid evidence exists to connect us tio the apes, although they have fossils that have similarities. Those who want to beleive in darwin do so, and people like me… Read more »

Sol
Sol

What you are saying is not true. You should do more researche before you judge. Symbols mean different things to different people. Momons have their reasons why they put those symbol there. The symbols that are there do not even come close to what you think, You would know this had you done your research. DO RESEARCH FIRST BEFORE YOU JUDGE ON WHAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA MEANS. I think if we were all like you we would be paranoid. We should be careful of false prophets like you said. How do we know that you are not onbe of those satanic people? We don't. We have to pray about these things and GOD will reveal eternal Truths to us.

george wells
george wells

Excellent job in such a short period of time. Those who are mormons and dispute the significance of the content of this expose should really be honest with themselves. You know within your own lives. wards and communities the dysfunction of the lives of the lds as a whole. You know of the social problems, such as, Utah being the fraud capital of the world as well as the prozac capital of the world. Its about being clean in appearance but not clean at heart. As Jesus said, whited sepulchers full of dead men's bones. Look at what Gordon B. Hinckley's news interviews. He did not even believe the gospel you profess and he was your prophet. Your leaders are a bunch of hypocrites who have enslaved you. You cannot be saved by mormon standards unless you gain light and intelligence. And yet mormonism has devolved to the point that no one can think or question for themselves without fear of being excommunicated. God cannot save a man who has given up his humanity which is to think and recognize reality. Mormons are brainwashed and hypnotized. Just watch and listen to the last general conference. Is there any people on… Read more »

Mike
Mike

You know, I am waiting fome someone to show me a church that does not have strife amongst people. People are, after all, nothing more than people. Look at the trouble in the Catholic Church, as an example. I am saddened for what they are going through but do you judge the entire church based on what a few people are doing? If you do, then you need to recall Jesus comment about "he who is without sin" and apply it because it is very relevant.

Bryce
Bryce

You might want to do a bit more research to stay “unbiased” in your views. The pentagram, for instance, has symbolized many more things in the history of the world than evil. Check out:
http://www.templestudy.com/2008/02/04/the-ancient-pentagram-a-christian-symbol/

Of course, symbols mean different things to different people. That is why they are symbols. To the LDS these symbols mean nothing close to what our critics preach, as epitomized in this article.

Cultsareforkids
Cultsareforkids

The symbols are there for a reason and it's not a stretch to question why those symbols are found in houses of religion, govt. buildings, movies, etc. The LDS church is a business with motives far beyond what is spelled out to the common folk in the church…no different than any other religion or cult. It's about power and money cloaked in "good works for humanity"….which is code for "indoctrinate the masses". The cult of Joel Osteen…the cult of LDS….the cult of Scientology…the cult of Christianity….it's all the same and they all work on the same priniciples…..just as we are propogandized by the govt. and media everyday….people that believe that any of these institutions have their individual well being in mind are deluded. It doesn't take more than five minutes to find confirmed documentation of the harm cults do to people or to find out how they used their money to buy influence in the halls of govt. to avoid being called to the carpet for what they really are.

BYR
BYR

I guess, like beauty, evil is in the eye of the beholder. Sigh.

LIBRA
LIBRA

I see that Jesus has his back to Earth which would reflect ignorance of the people of Earth,they keep people in the dark. And also i would say that the eagle is standing on a “pine cone” not a bee hive,which would mean they have knowledge of over our “third eye”. But they cannot fool everyone.

Seth R.
Seth R.

Yeah?

So was the cross. You going to call that an occult symbol too?

And no, early Christians didn’t seem too concerned about the direction. You find it displayed every which way in early Christian art.

Point being, there’s nothing particularly sinister about either Mormon or Freemason use of the symbol. It’s just an attempt by Christian counter-cultists to score cheap scare points with people too ignorant to know any better.

Kromdaynar
Kromdaynar

Actually the cross is a satanic symbol. It represents the phallus, or male sexual genitalia. The cross was used by ancient Egypt, and is used today.

The idol of Christ hanging on a phallus is the greatest blasphemy possible! Especially when the original Greek writings of the New Testament say that Christ was executed on an upright pole, or stake. The cross was added to Christianity..after the great apostasy was already fully under way. 400 years after Christs death. Early Christians most certainly did NOT use a cross in true worship.

…so YES I am telling you that the cross is an occult symbol.

Seth R.
Seth R.

The inverted pentagram is actually Christian symbol and was used by the first Christian emperor Constantine. Back then, the pentagram symbolized the divine mathematical elegance of the universe (started by the Greeks – from which Christianity borrowed heavily). Christians used the pentagram to symbolize the divine relationship of the Holy Trinity and the five wounds of Christ. They displayed it both upside down and right side up – frankly, they didn’t seem to care much which direction it faced.

The inverted pentagram was only popularized as a Satanic symbol by a single American author as recently as the last century. Since then, the symbol has been so used by Hollywood. But that’s an entirely recent innovation.

You can also find the inverted pentagram on the US Congressional Medal of Honor, and displayed on the Cathedral of Chartres in France.

The twelve oxen represent the Twelve Tribes of Israel.

Becky
Becky

Before reading this article I only held suspicions of the Mormon faith and what they really believe, but this seems to just confirm what i’ve been thinking. I do have one point that I’m not so sure on –
In the rotunda, the Christus statue is said to be casting a shadow on the earth. Now I’ve noticed that the statue is casting light on the earth, much so in the fashion of the sun – it illuminates the hemisphere facing it. Is this what u were speaking of when u said casting a shadow? That it is only illuminating the earth partially and thus part of the earth gets no light?
Much like the portrayal of Christ in Catholicism (no offence) Jesus is the sun and his light shines upon the earth in the same manner. This of course is an adaptation of pagan beliefs that the catholics merely converted to attract the pagans they aimed to “save” and so I fully believe in the pagan symbolism in this statue. I’m just not sure I’m seeing it the way you are.

scnielsen78
scnielsen78

If the "occult symbols" and everything at Temple Square are "leading people to Satan" then I guess I will choose to follow Satan… (please detect the sarcasm here)

The ridiculous diatribe (disguised as an intellectual discussion) above is just that "ridiculous"…

Amen to spamlds' post. "By their fruits ye shall know them". Having spent time as an inactive and inactive member of the LDS Church, I can say by experience, that the time IN the Church was far better…

I have read evidence from both sides- Mormon and Anti-Mormon, as I have friends and relatives that like to debate and have found that it is an easy choice for me to choose to be a member of the Church.

The Church is lead by a true Prophet. The Church, though small in numbers, does more collective good in the world than any other organization of it's size.

I take personal strolls around Temple Square whenever possible though it's a ways from my home. I think I'll go there tomorrow now that it's fresh in my mind… I need to bask in that peace and spirit….

Leah
Leah

I:John 4:1

Instructs us to "test the spirits" because not every "prophet" has been sent from God. Revelation also warns of "adding to" the bible in any way and also states that even if an angel appears before you that you are to regard it as not of God, but as a false prophet. Read the Bible first, and be sure to do so without bias and you will come to the understanding of this "religion's" false teaching.

spamlds
spamlds

It seems to me that Jesus said, "By their fruits ye shall know them." The Church helps the needy, lifts up the downtrodden, comforts those who mourn, and gives millions of dollars in humanitarian aid, as well as millions of man-hours in service to communities. We have no paid clergymen. The Church operates a system of storehouses and production facilities that produce food and necessities that assist tens thousands of people every month. Some two million people where assisted by the Church last year, including those who are not of our faith. Our welfare program has been praised by U.S. Presidents of both parties. In addition to a missionary effort of nearly 60,000 full time elders and sisters–all of whom serve as unpaid volunteers for periods up to two years–the Church also has non-proselyting service missionaries involved in construction, engineering, and medical projects that bring clean water systems, health care, and education to many thousands of people in Africa and other third-world nations. Just this week, the Church was honored in Kiev, Russia for its assistance in building and providing medical diagnostic equipment in to a new medical center. Members of the Church experience gifts of the Holy Ghost and… Read more »

angie
angie

The same passage in the Bible which you quote Matt 7:20-23 states " Thus by their fruit will you know them. Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord', will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell tham plainly, ' I never knew you. Away from me you evildoers'" Just because a person does good things does not mean that the fruit hidden with in their heart is the will of the Father in heaven! We are not redeemed by acts, but by the perfect Grace of God!

DKS
DKS

Absolutely right. Our works, even good ones, mean nothing aside from what CHRIST has done for us. If we could EARN our way to heaven, there would be no need for Jesus if we could do this on our own.

Morgan
Morgan

Faith without works is dead.

Leah
Leah

For it is by Grace you have been saved, through faith-And this is not from yourselves it is the gift of God. Ephesians 2:8

bd29
bd29

Mormon person: blah blah blah blah WORKS blah blah blah

Christian person: blah blah blah blah GRACE blah blah blah

If I had a penny for every time a Mormon and Christian had this debate! Every time it follows the exact same back and forth verbiage… almost verbatim. And every time, each side of the debate thinks that they are actually saying something poignant.

News flash for both sides: It is a moot point. Not because it is doctrinally not important. But because the fruit of your debate is absolutely nothing at all (could you say that by the fruit of the debate, you will know if the tree is good?)

Roberto
Roberto

The fruits:

Autocratic hierarchical ruling structure

Guilt/Confession oriented brainwashing

Us vs. Them cult isolation techniques

1/10 Monetary tributes

Secret initiatory filtering – only the lowest initiations leak to the public, only the highest initiates rule.

Are these the fruits your referring to?

thedevilsreject
thedevilsreject

It seems to be the way that when your doing something that you know society on the whole would not approve of you have to go the extra mile and a half to counteract all the objections flowing in from the other side. Regardless of all the good deeds, community service, humanitarian aid, etc. you and your people are praying to and serving Satan, the dark forces of evil. He builds his army behind the guise of goodwill and humanitarian aid building the strength needed to strike when the moment is right. I believe that a fair amount of the people are misunderstood in what they believe and want only the best, however there is a contingent in the power center that plots against you and humanity as a whole. There are/were many good organizations, institutions that were silently infiltrated, perverted & corrupted by people who didn't share the same ideals hence what we see in society today. Maybe instead of going along to get along people should take the initiative to stop what they're doing, pick up the pieces, reorganize & get a fresh restart elsewhere practicing the values they hold dear the way it was originally intended to… Read more »

Jettboy
Jettboy

Have you asked a Mormon what those symbols mean to them? Of course not. You have already made up your mind what those things mean and therefore wish only to see them as such. I'm not about to disabuse you of that because it isn't worth my time knowing it will fall on deaf ears. Symbols are not the things, but a representation of the things. That can change according to whoever you are speaking with. The Nazi swastika, for instance, is not in itself evil and can be found among Indians of both Asian and North America as symbols of life. Well, I suppose you would say they are evil because you have predetermined that they are evil. Wouldn't be surprised by that attitude found here.

Most Mormons "in the know" would laugh at your symbolism narratives. They are a joke made within your own imaginations based on half-baked understandings of history, theology, and symbols. Keep having your fun with fantasy conspiracy theories. It helps more intelligent people know how quacked you all are in the head.

Travin
Travin

dude, you are 100% right. the nazi's gave the swastika a bad image. just like satan does, the swastika really used to mean good fortune. now it means, I'M AN A*****E!

Willis
Willis

Brainwashed Mormon alert.

Seeker
Seeker

I have family that are mormons who are trying to get me to go to the church. I have asked their bishop what he thinks of these symbols and all i get is the run around about how those symbols are not in the church even though they are plainly visible when you look at pictures or even go to the temple. My mother even has pictures from when she went to this exact temple in utah and these symbols are in her pictures and she had no idea! I showed the bishop those pictures and he flat out denied that they were from the temple. Obviously they mean something bad if they refuse to give me an answer. Why else would they refuse to answer questions about them? If they don't mean what most people see them to mean, then what do they mean to the Mormons? I still have to answer to this question…

Chris
Chris

Please see http://www.fairlds.org for LDS scholars who answer these type of questions. The inverted 5 point star has a righteous symbolic use such as the Star of Bethlehem pointing to Christ. It was used in Christian art and Mormon temples before a radical French Catholic Priest twisted it into a Satanic symbol.

See also the comments on how swastikas (without the Nazi changed direction and angle) were used as sacred symbols of the Hindus and the American Indians. The Bahais added this symbol in the 1910's along with the cross and many others to their beautiful temple in Wilmette IL well before the Nazis twisted it.

The cross is also a beautiful symbol of Jesus overcoming death, but at times it is twisted into a symbol of fear or hate – such as when Crusaders with cruciform swords told Jews and others "Baptism or death". This article is mistaken in the meaning of Mormon synbols.

Tom
Tom

Hindu people were aryans. You know the master race of superman who were to create their own utopia?

Hitler got his utopia, it's called israel.

ANU
ANU

Let me guess, you're a Mormon? No offence to anybody but if you believe in a false prophet I would say that's about the same as rejecting God.

Brolin
Brolin

I find all of this interesting. I was born and raised in central Utah all my life. I am actually a Christ follower and a youth pastor. One thing that I find interesting, as I read all of what I could of the comments (as there are a lot) is that this article was just giving facts. And out of the blue, people from different faiths took a Us vs Them mentality, when the article was really objective and honest about the research and findings. If we would have read an article perhaps about Jay-Z and his occult images, some of the regular viewers of this site would condemn Jay-Z. However, once this hit close to home, people begin to say this is heretical. I know growing up in Utah and working with some people of the LDS faith, that the first thing a person of the LDS faith does when faced with the truth of something, they deny it or go around it or call people persecutors of the faith. This is not an instance where Vigilant was against the LDS faith. He was bringing up the facts! So rather than take what the research says and do away… Read more »

Philip, a Mormon
Philip, a Mormon

Ask a Catholic to explain the symbolism of the Easter Candle.

Ask a Baptist if they can explain the origins of the Baptist church.

Ask a Methodist who John Wesley is.

Ask a Non-denominational christian if they believe in the importance of a Priesthood (whether of all/qualified/male members of the church)

What I am trying to get to is this: Not every single member of any church will know everything about their denomination. That is the failure of Man. We cannot hope to understand everything, its just not humanly possible.

But one thing we can know: That Jesus is the Christ. That he is the Savior of all. That he taught us to trust in him, to believe in him, to do good, and most especially: to love on another. All Christians, no matter what faith they may claim, are his disciples, for as the Savior has said "By this shall all men that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another." (John 13:35, KJV)

May God bless All who strive to do good and come unto his Son.

Philip

Mike
Mike

"The first thing" is such an awful comment and, in my opinion, lacking one essential element – the truth. This is not what happens but it does happen in many other cases, not related to this article at all. This church represents truth and if anyone would care to investigate the church and find out what is going on, then their opinion may undergo some changes. Regrettably, it is much, much easier to see something and then think you know everything and when you have that kind of attitude, nothing can persuade you of anything else because, after all, you are right and everyone else is wrong. It is so sad because exactly the same thing was done to Jesus when He walked the earth and look what happened to Him.

Naomi
Naomi

I also agree with Nate. I just really want to know why they are doing this evil, serving it and tricking people into doing the same. I guess where ever there is good there is bad except in heaven. Thanks for this article again you have opened my eyes and my mind and every time i read one of your articles i love God more. Thank you and keep the truth filled articles flowing.

donna
donna

another excellent read. Well done! I agree wtih Nate – these things are so obvious yet we are totally blind and ignorant to them. Thanks for informing us.

nate
nate

great article

It's amazing how much is in front of us and most are blind to see it.

+1 for knowledge

cold crypt
cold crypt

Right n yo face n dont even c it

eachann
eachann

…being led like sheep to the slaughter…

Axe
Axe

what about ask the custodians of the building why there are pentagrams ?

dave
dave

The new confrence center has something interesting on it's roof….9 pyramids. Do the math.

Mormon
Mormon

If everyone thnks the Mormons are evil and tricking people, please visit a Sunday service and talk with a Bishop about these lies that have been spun here.

no government name
no government name

I love how the youtube videos links you posted were removed by "owner" lol the mormons

Steven Perkey
Steven Perkey

Cain was not a child of Adam's. The bible never said he was. In fact it says he is Eve's child, but not Adam's.

The question of why Able's offering was accepted is simple. God revealed to Able what was required. That is the common theme through out the bible. This relationship is also the same today. One relgious group gets divine revelation from God Himself and the other doesn't. They would also do well to head the godly group, but instead will commit murder again. It is fast approaching…

bmshortay
bmshortay

i posted a comment on here asking about the mormon religion and how i looked up their beliefs and was confused and now it is deleted?? i also posted a comment on this website about Jesus vs. Money and how one can't love money AND God. I talked about how it is okay to have money but that you can't love it and that comment was deleted too. I figured it was deleted because i posted it on several posts on here but it was only because i thought it was an important message and it wasn't hurting anyone… I am just so confused why my posts keep getting deleted because i haven't written anything offensive at all 🙁

itmgisd1
itmgisd1

For bmshortay

What questions did you have about the LDS faith?

BTW you are correct about loving money. That's same as worshiping a false idol.

Tom
Tom

My question is. Why does the church of latter day saints allow people like bruce r mcconkie to propagate his hatred towards people of jewish creed? or of african descent? "Bruce Redd McConkie (July 29, 1915 – April 19, 1985) was a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) from 1972 until his death. McConkie was a member of the First Council of the Seventy of the LDS Church from 1946 until his calling to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles." "McConkie received a Bachelor of Arts and Juris Doctor from the University of Utah. He spent his childhood between Monticello, Utah; Salt Lake City; and Ann Arbor, Michigan. He married Amelia Smith (1916–2005), a daughter of LDS Church President Joseph Fielding Smith." "Let the spiritually illiterate suppose what they may, it was the Jewish denial and rejection of the Holy One of Israel, whom their fathers worshiped in the beauty of holiness, that has made them a hiss and a byword in all nations and that has taken millions of their fair sons and daughters to untimely graves" -Bruce Redd McConkie ,member of the Quorum of the… Read more »

itmgisd1
itmgisd1

Tom I'm not sure why you would find it hard to believe that someone like Bruce R McConkie could be a member of the LDS church. Like any large worldly organization they have people with many differing ideas and beliefs. The fact that some or many of the leaders of the church may be anti-semite should not be surprising considering the ultra conservative background many came from. Like many creeds some members take a passage or teaching and using it for their own purpose. Denying the priesthood from the blacks is a perfect example of this. There was nothing the to preclude black males from having the priesthood conferred except the man made doctrine of the church that excludes them. Since the fall of the church after June or July 1830 as Joseph Smith fell from grace the wolves have had a open field to pray on the sheep. But this is certainly not exclusive to the LDS hierarchy as bigotry and intolerance are rampant throughout the world. Just look at the government of most any western country and you'll see the same thing or the abuse in the Catholic Church. Any large Bureaucracy can allow those who are of… Read more »

itmgisd1
itmgisd1

I would be highly surprised if many LDS members had even the vaguest idea as to the symbolism mentioned in this article. I believe that most of which dates back to the early beginnings of the church. From what I have been able to gather the path the church was on changed significantly when Sidney Rigdon, a former Baptist minister, became a member and eventually a member of the first presidency of the church. In my travels on the the net everything seems to point to the fact that sometime in 1830 Joseph Smith Jr. changed and began to move the church in a direction it was not meant to go. According to some of the original church members Joseph Smith was never appointed prophet by God but in fact that was something adopted at the suggestion of most likely Rigdon. According to at least one of the original 3 witnesses God in a revelation told Joseph that he would grant him no other gift but to translate the Book of Mormon. This revelation is apparently part of the original Book of Commandments which would alter become Doctrine and Covenants. However the entry was changed in all later editions of… Read more »

Renee'
Renee'

All symbolism aside there is absolutely 0% archaeological evidence that backs up anything in the BOM. It is a separate religion that claims to be a form of Christianity but contradicts the Bible itself.

Forget about the symbols for a minute and just focus on the fact it's claims are unverifiable.

The Creator of the universe left evidence for us to find, through historical documents, the existence of places and artifacts, the eye witness accounts of people living during the time of Christ.

The Mormon's do not have any such thing… that to me is the scariest part of this religion. People who are in won't even consider these points. They just believe what they are told to believe and in doing so condemn themselves to the lie.

I only hope that their ignorance is not held against them…

nick humphrey
nick humphrey

read the satanic rules, statements and sins and judge for yourself if the lds church is satanic or not:
http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,28661,28685

john karri
john karri

My friends of dear mother earth, humanity cries out for answers and guess what there is no answers except hurt and pain caused by powers and positions and sorry folks that includes Mormonism. I have heard all your cries,debates, bitching and sincerities and I respect you all, from down under perth Western australia. It takes guts to stand up to what one believes even if you darn wrong, so its not about the truth of relegion so much as it is about the hurts and pain, the bloodshed. I am sorry to say that from Muslems to Mormons, there system of claiming to be the only way or the highway will kill if necessary in the name of their prophet if called apon. Yes mormon girl, you are sweetly trying to remain incocent and blinded to the facts but your whole heartedness given over to a church that is serving you well FOR NOW. I am one who has been called to many positions in the church, served missions and even laboured as a temple worker, even one of the very elect but my temple marrige broke up long story. Some years later I was given clearance for another temple… Read more »

screwed by Mormons
screwed by Mormons

Just travel in Utah or Idaho from out of state and don't look like a Mormon and bam , you will get pulled over and and searched (all your rights violated), w/ no chance of getting a fair hearing – Mormons have declared war on others they are def evil assholes.

Trav
Trav

oh, like we have not heard this before! the old fear tactics. MUSLIMS ARE TERRORIST! THE INDIANS ARE SAVAGES! YOUR LIFE IS IN DANGER BECAUSE MORMONS ARE AGAINST TYRANNY! OH NO! THEY FOLLOW THE GOLDEN RULE! OH, OH.. WHAT DO WE DO? WHERE DO WE GO? lol… it makes me laugh. you wanna know who are the real satanist? read and do research about Skull and Bones and the illuminati/illuminazi it's the shadow government thats the real threat people http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=alex+

go there and watch the first video called "endgame" the mormons will protect the constitution from destruction.. the constitution is being shredded up right now! joseph smith was framed. like the indians and the blacks and the muslims and the islams..

The not-christian be
The not-christian be

Before reading this article, i used to beleibe in this site, but this is full of s**t!!!

How can you just describe this way the faith of others, and the existence of other cultures?

Damn you b***h!!!!

Wise One
Wise One

Calling All Who Want to Learn about mormon Polygamy History!

There are episodes Polygamy 1 to Polygamy 4

Here is first episode #71

http://www.hotm.tv/shows/20070710.htm

Mormons are good people but many don't even know their history, doctrines, journal discourses, and do not understand their Bible only as " far translated" and no symbols except for what they are told.

Jess
Jess

You think they don't teach us about our own theology? I know about polygamism. I learned about it at a very young age. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has never tried to hide it's past. If you walk up to any member and ask if we practiced polygamy, they would tell you that yes, we did, in the past, but no longer. Yes, there are some groups that still do, but they are a break-away branch. They are no longer members of this church. I am willing to bet that most of the "research" you have done was given to you by someone who hates Mormons as much as you do. If you want to truly understand us, learn from our missionaries. Don't invite them over to Bible bash, but with the intent to truly learn what we believe. You can't insist that you know more about us than we do, after all, *we* are the Mormons. If anyone knows about church doctrine, it is us. I am too young to go any farther into the temple then the baptismal font, but that doesn't stop me from knowing that the Church is true. But, you know what?… Read more »

Dogswife
Dogswife

I just want to say that I, unlike Mormongirl, cannot explain the meaning of the symbolism used by the church, but I will say this: I know that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (AKA the Mormons) is the true church. I know the Christ lives. I know that those of you who are speaking ill of our church and its teaching don't know what you're saying. This church teaches us only to do good to others, no matter what their church, class, etc. This church teaches us to serve and forgive. This church teaches us to eat well and be healthy. This church teaches us that we have free agency to choose our own path and never forces its will or belief on us. It is a good, no, it is a great church full of spiritual and good people who take care of each other. People who serve one another without thought for repayment. These people have taught my children love and forgiveness. Most importantly my children know about a loving Heavenly Father whose son, Jesus Christ gave his life for them and me and you and everyone else. If any of you believe that voluntary… Read more »

Wise One
Wise One

DogWife LDS are good people we all know this! The Doctrines are evil…deep down you believe you are going to practice Polygamy with your husband the "dog" to multiply in your own given planet in the Celestial Kingdom! And or my be re instituted in the future on Earth! Stop lying….you have doubts but you love the social aspects of the church heh? The comfort there is nice, their riches, the friends, the family, Jesus can't not do it just for you huh? mmm if you live in your own planet away form God isn't that a hell! If the 3 glories of heaven highest Celestial kingdom live with god and Jesus, Terrestial Jesus can visit you, Telestial much like our earth…doesn't the last two make it a HELL? BTW the Holy Bible speaks about 3 different hells not heavens…Joseph made it up bc a preacher told his family when his older brother passed away that because he was not baptized he would go to hell. So, he had to adopt baptisms for the dead theory to comfort his soul and heart and so many others…plus false theories of Heave/Celestial Kingdoms…. I know your theology and history DoG Wife great… Read more »

Travin
Travin

We don't believe in wearing crosses/ etc because the cross is MAN MADE! if you think heaven is going to have crosses you are wrong (lol, so wrong).. There will be not one cross in site. why? because it is man mad, it is no divine symbol… now, you use your head! why does the cross have to symbolize jesus? I say, why should it!? it is a man made symbol and only symbolizes his death, thats it!

Wise One
Wise One

We know why Mormons choose not to wear crosses or have any crosses around is no big deal. We know!

Christians don't think by wearing a cross they are saved duh! Christians are only saved by Jesus! Duh and crosses are symbols of Christianity you know that!

Mormons are not 100% Christians not for fearing the crosses but they worship a polygamist God, Jesus who have carnal penis! What heresies!

Travin
Travin

Oh my! read the book of 2 Samuel again and again until you get the understanding that David(the one that killed Goliath) had many wives. God gave david many wives!(10 I think was the total)! David even took a married woman to wife (Bath-Sheba was her name) and david had her husband killed in war. god is unhappy that he did this and curses him because it's only adultry when you take or have sex with a man or women that is ALREADY MARRIED. 2 Samuel 12:-13 "Nathan Tells David the parable of the ewe lamb- The lord gave many wives to david, who is now cursed for taking Bath-sheba- David fasts and prays for his son(that god cursed with death) but the lord takes him- solomon is born-etc." look, just read the the whole 2 book of Samuel! you will find, they had many wives. They built temples and other houses of the lord. your pretty much saying its strange to live the same ways the people in the bible lived in the world today. so the only thing you can think of is calling it satanic because it's something strange in the world today.

Travin
Travin

ok, here is a prayer from a "mormon satanic 21 year old boy" now tell me if this is a prayer to god/jesus christ and the holy ghost or to satan. keep in mind! Satan can not do evil by doing good?! god can't do good by doing evil! "Oh, Lord. God Almighty! I pray to you this day and to give thanks. Thank you god for all my many blessing, thank you for my family and bless them with all you're might lord. Thank you for this beautiful world that you have created for us to enjoy. Thank you lord for the moon, The sun and the stars. Thank you lord for all of your creations! God I ask you to please continue to bless me and keep me strong in these wicked times bless me physically, Mentally and spiritually, as well as my family. bless them.. Also Lord I ask you to bless all of your good saints where ever they might be in WHATEVER RELIGION on the face of this whole earth.. bless them phisically, mentally and spiritully and keep them strong. I say these things in the name of god the eternal father, the son Jesus… Read more »

SuperNeutrality
SuperNeutrality

@ Travin Re: Polygamy With Jesus Christ’s appearance on earth the time came to begin to set things straight. He made clear God’s standard of monogamy, and of Scriptural divorce only on grounds of adultery. (Matt. 19:9) When asked by the Pharisees why God did not enforce this standard [monogamy] upon Israel, Jesus replied: “Moses, out of regard for your hardheartedness, made the concession to you of divorcing your wives, but such has not been the case from the beginning.”—Matt. 19:7, 8. Also, In reply he said: “Did YOU not read that he who created them from [the] beginning made them male and female and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh’?  So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has yoked together let no man put apart. – Matt. 19: 4-6 Therefore, Jehovah God tolerated polygamy in the old testament, until Jesus' arrival, since Jesus would come through the line of Abraham, David, etc. Once Jesus arrived, he reminded people of God's original standard for marriage – anything outside that amounts to porneia/fornication/sexual immorality. Besides, as… Read more »

What
What

"The Book of Mormon: New Jerusalem is going to be earthly and built by the hand of man in Missouri, U.S.A. – 3 Nephi 21:23, 24; Doctrine and Covenants 84:3, 4."

Oh, great. That's great. Because, of all the places on earth, MISSOURI is where you'll find the souls of the Saints.

MISSOURI.

People BELIEVE THIS.

I swear, if another Mormon quotes the Bible at me one more time, I'm going to sit them down and make them read it themselves. Not the Mormon version, but an ACTUAL BIBLE.

…MISSOURI. It sounds like MISERY for a reason.

What
What

For the record, since there seems to be a lot of contention surrounding the use of 'Lucifer' and 'Morning Star': http://www.kjv-only.com/isa14_12.html This article sums it up pretty nicely.

Doesn't change the fact that an inverted pentagram is still an inverted pentagram and represents the fallen angel.

Travin
Travin

Revelation 22:16 I jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. (or the star of david/morning star)

so both satan and Jesus are called the morning star? I personally think satan has no symbol though.. he doesn't even have a lineage because he never had and never will have a body . The only symbol satan has is to pervert sacred symbols. the True mormons do none of that..

MormonGirl
MormonGirl

Oh, and I also forgot to mention that the 12 oxen on the baptismal font represents the Twelve Tribes of Israel! (: Thanks!

MormonGirl
MormonGirl

Hi there! I'm Mormon and enjoy reading your articles. I just wanted to clarify a few things about your article. First, the upside down star represents that all blessings are from God and are poured down upon us. Secondly, there are no crosses because we do not worship them. We like to remember the life of Jesus Christ, not his death. Also, the sun, moon, and star found on the temple represents the 3 kingdoms of glory that we believe are in heaven: the highest being Celestial Glory (the sun) where we can live in the presence of our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, the second kingdom being the Telestial Glory (the moon) where we can live in the presence of only Jesus Christ, and lastly the Terrestial Glory (the stars) where we may live among friends and family but without the presence of our Heavenly Father or Jesus Christ. Also, we do not believe in the Holy Trinity as one being– we believe that Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are three separate beings but are ONE IN PURPOSE, to bring forth God's children back into the sight of Him. We are in no way affiliated with… Read more »

Jaime
Jaime

You like to remember his life not his death? Of course his life is important but his death is equally as important. He died on the cross for the sins of all man. He is the Son of God and the one and ONLY. Joseph Smith is a false prophet who has gained followers through a message so pleasing and beautiful that it could fool anyone. Leading godly lifestyle isn't all easy and there is a Hell and there is a devil. There is a Heaven, one heaven where you will only get living a godly lifestyle, not a lifestyle that suits yours and fits your desires. We are not on this Earth for ourselves, we were put here for a purpose, a purpose to glorify God. The LDS is a beautiful monster with a bittersweet message.

David
David

Do a little research about mormon faith and its roots and the one who's gonna be disappointed it's gonna be you.

Travin
Travin

the 12 oxen represent the 12 tribes of isreal. also the baptisamal font on the oxen represents carrying the yoke of your burdens and forgiving of ones sins.

Wise One
Wise One

Hey Mormon Girl THINK! And you are covering the facts with sugar like most LDS who are ignorant! First of all the Endowments are initiations to some powers that are not from God…all LDS I spoke to were shocked at the ritual like cult of the ceremony Don't LIE! There are secret hand skakes and tokens! Don't LIE! You know why because Joseph Smith took it from the Masons! The garments have evil symbols too…the same as the masons theisr black but LDS white are white. No LDS ever know this. They are never told these crazy crap until they do intiate themselves in the temple with anointment, endowments…if they were Christian raised they will know something is off! BTW temple eternal sealing are false doctrine. Nobody will stay married in the presence of God read your Bible about the seven husbands of the jew woman! THE DARK DOCTRINES ARE FROM THE DARKNESS Such as the BOOK OF DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS INCLUDING POLYGAMY SEC 132, PEARL Of GREAT PRICE all FALSE and Frauds…..FALSE THE CROSS my darling is a symbol of Jesus sacrifice and that he lives!!!! If the cross is empty is because he resurrected! Duh! JOSEPH was deeply… Read more »

DealsOfEviLL
DealsOfEviLL

Why are Mormons so stubbornly blind? How can you believe this "Joseph Smith" idiot? I mean really, if I told you I spoke to Jesus and brought forth all these false doctrines you guys would take my word for it? I don't read the Bible much anymore..but I do remember it saying to question all who come in Jesus name. This one is an obvious anti-christ and its astounding to me that people are so stupid to believe this false prophet. Some things are just common sense. Seriously. I mean think about them Islamic people too. What kind of God says its okay to hijack a plane full of people(and innocent children) and drive it into a building? Not a good God, that's for sure. Talk about being confident. In my heart, I truly believe Jesus Christ to be the one and only true savior of mankind. Ill be the first to admit, I don't go to church all the time.and even have doubts about all this from time to time..but if I were to follow anyone religion(gospel)it would be Jesus Christ. Because he taught to love the world and even your enemies. He taught that God was our father… Read more »

edsfsd
edsfsd

Do some research, 9/11 was an inside job. A false flag operation. No truly religious muslim would do that. Strategically and religiously, it's not beneficial in any way. Plus, nowhere in Islam does it day that Allah takes delight in people burning in hell. Allah is full of love for his creation and the Prophet, peace be upon him, said that Allah loves when people turn to Him as much (or more? I forget..) as you would love having your camel return to you (I think) if you were lost in the desert. Allah is a loving and just God. He is the God of Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Christians in Arabic speaking countries use the word Allah too, because it is arabic for God. Allah created the Prophet Jesus as an expression of His mercy to the world. But He doesn't tolerate idolatry, so don't worship Jesus as an idol. Jesus never said, "worship me!" He said worship the Father. Allah is what Christians call the Father. In actuality Allah begets not, nor was He begotten. Far is He above all that they attribute to Him.

Brock Sampson
Brock Sampson

Hey all – I have recently left the Mormon church (within two years). I was raised in the church, I was a Missionary for two years in South America, I was married in the LDS temple, and I served in various leadership positions in the church before I left. I say all this because I want to have credibility when I say: There are good and valid reasons to leave the LDS church… but the stuff on this page aint it! I love this site. I think it is all extremely interesting and fun, but it's not real. I acquaint it to reading the Da Vinci Code. It's a fun time and points out some interesting stuff, but I take it all with an extremely LARGE grain of salt. I realize that because I don't believe in a vast, vague, controlling, diabolical cabal I probably lose points around here. True skepticism means taking a balanced, methodical, and evidenced approach to topics. I see a lot of innuendo and manipulation around here. It's more than a little hypocritical for a site that bemoans the manipulative nature of some imaginary uber-conspiracy. The truth is that while ancient symbols do apparently appear in… Read more »

Awake and Pissed
Awake and Pissed

Very good info i love your website,

However i was born a Mormon and even though most of what you talk about is factual there are a few thing which you have stated that are not true

for instance: i have never been thought any of those handshake you speak off? where did you get that from? look buddy that statement alone has made me weary of the information and "research" you provide. Again i love your website and all but please in order to stay credible you must remove all information that you arw not 100% clear on .