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Coronavirus Was Eerily Predicted in a 1981 Novel

The 1981 novel “The Eyes of Darkness” by Dean Koontz talks about a deadly virus used as a biological weapon named Wuhan-400. The epicenter of real-life Coronavirus is … Wuhan, China. And the eerie similarities do not end there.



Coronavirus Was Eerily Predicted in a 1981 Novel

Dean Koontz is a prolific author who wrote 105 novels, including several NY Times Best Sellers. He sold over 450 million copies worldwide and 17 books were adapted for cinema.

Throughout his career, Koontz wrote under several pen names including David Axton, Deanna Dwyer, K.R Dwyer, Brian Coffey, and Leigh Nichols. It is with this last pen name that Koontz wrote the novel The Eyes of Darkness in 1981 – a “suspense thriller” that is causing even more “suspense thriller” nearly 40 years after its original publication.

Coronavirus Was Eerily Predicted in a 1981 Novel

The first edition of The Eyes of Darkness.

The reason for the resurgence in popularity for this forgotten novel? It appears to have predicted with chilling accuracy the outbreak of Coronavirus from Wuhan, China.

The plot revolves around a mother who attempts to find out what happened to her son after he mysteriously disappeared on a camping trip. It turns out that the boy is held in China – more specifically in Wuhan, the site of a deadly virus outbreak. Here is the passage that is raising eyebrows across the web:

“I’m not interested in the philosophy or morality of biological warfare,” Tina said. “Right now I just want to know how the hell Danny wound up in this place.”

“To understand that,” Dombey said, “you have to go back twenty months. It was around then that a Chinese scientist named Li Chen defected to the United States, carrying a diskette record of China’s most important and dangerous new biological weapon in a decade. They call the stuff ‘Wuhan-400’ because it was developed at their RDNA labs outside of the city of Wuhan, and it was the four-hundredth viable strain of man-made microorganisms created at that research center.

“Wuhan-400 is a perfect weapon. It afflicts only human beings. No other living creature can carry it. And like syphilis, Wuhan-400 can’t survive outside a living human body for longer than a minute, which means it can’t permanently contaminate objects or entire places the way anthrax and other virulent microorganisms can. And when the host expires, the Wuhan-400 within him perishes a short while later, as soon as the temperature of the corpse drops below eighty-six degrees Fahrenheit. Do you see the advantage of all this?”

Tina was too busy with Danny to think about what Carl Dombey had said, but Elliot knew what the scientist meant. “If I understand you, the Chinese could use Wuhan-400 to wipe out a city or a country, and then there wouldn’t be any need for them to conduct a tricky and expensive decontamination before they moved in and took over the conquered territory.”

“Exactly,” Dombey said. “And Wuhan-400 has other, equally important advantages over most biological agents. For one thing, you can become an infectious carrier only four hours after coming into contact with the virus. That’s an incredibly short incubation period. Once infected, no one lives more than twenty-four hours. Most die in twelve. It’s worse than the Ebola virus in Africa—infinitely worse. Wuhan-400’s kill-rate is one hundred percent. No one is supposed to survive. The Chinese tested it on God knows how many political prisoners. They were never able to find an antibody or an antibiotic that was effective against it. The virus migrates to the brain stem, and there it begins secreting a toxin that literally eats away brain tissue like battery acid dissolving cheesecloth. It destroys the part of the brain that controls all of the body’s automatic functions. The victim simply ceases to have a pulse, functioning organs, or any urge to breathe.”

“And that’s the disease Danny survived,” Elliot said.

“Yes,” Dombey said. “As far as we know, he’s the only one who ever has.”

Tina had pulled the blanket off the bed and folded it in half, so she could wrap Danny in it for the trip out to the Explorer. Now she looked up from the task of bundling the child, and she said to Dombey, “But why was he infected in the first place?”

“It was an accident,” Dombey said.

“I’ve heard that one before.”

“This time it’s true,” Dombey said. “After Li Chen defected with all the data on Wuhan-400, he was brought here. We immediately began working with him, trying to engineer an exact duplicate of the virus. In relatively short order we accomplished that. Then we began to study the bug, searching for a handle on it that the Chinese had overlooked.”

“And someone got careless,” Elliot said.

In this passage, the virus is called Wuhan-400 because it was developed at their “RDNA labs outside of the city of Wuhan”. As you might know, the epicenter of the actual Coronavirus outbreak is in Wuhan.

Another strange fact: The actual Wuhan Institute of Virology, which houses China’s only level four biosafety laboratory (the highest-level classification of labs that study the deadliest viruses) is just 32km from Wuhan. The science journal Nature covered the opening of his lab in 2017 warned of safety risks in a culture where “hierarchy trumps an open culture”.

Therefore, it doesn’t take a widely imaginative mind to speculate that the virus could have “escaped” from this facility the same way it did in the novel.

Another strange fact: The 2017 French comic Asterix and the Chariot Race featured a masked villain named … Coronavirus.

Coronavirus Was Eerily Predicted in a 1981 Novel

While some believe this is all a strange coincidence, others see it as a classic case of “predictive programming”. The entire situation is reminiscent of the 1898 novella Futility which was about a huge ocean liner called Titan which sank in the North Atlantic after hitting an iceberg. Fourteen years later, a huge ocean liner called Titanic sank in the North Atlantic after hitting an iceberg.

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My mind is seriously blown. I can’t even, Once again, this is just like the predictive programming about 9/11, people KNEW about it. I wonder how this author knew, what connections did he have? This is super scary… Also, just like Hiv, Ebola, SARS and MERS, Novel Corona virus is an RNA disease. RDNA?

Lord Monckton

I am not saying even this is the case, but the probability that a group of people that know about this book planted the virus there or made up the whole thing somehow is much higher than the probability of this author having had any foreknowledge of something that would happen 30 years later…

Jack D.

I think it’s the other way around . I think it’s more probable that this book is a form of cryptography used by the intelligence community, and that Koontz had inside information from the intelligence. In all likelihood, this was/is probably just one of many scenarios of biological warfare that has been planned long ago.

Capt. Tripps

Many movies and books are made as ” cover ” , so it can be said that ( you ) watch too many movies , as that could never happen in real life. /s/

How do ” They ” create chaos ?
MKUltra – In 1953, the CIA placed several of its interrogation and mind-control programs under the direction of a single program, known by the code name MKULTRA,

” We intend to investigate the development of a chemical material which causes a reversible, nontoxic aberrant mental state, the specific nature of which can be reasonably well predicted for each individual. This material could potentially aid in discrediting individuals, eliciting information, and implanting suggestions and other forms of mental control.— Richard Helms, internal CIA memo ”

# 1 KINGSMEN movie = violent church shooting scene
We later see several real life such crimes.
# 2 KINGSMEN movie – Eco-Terrorist sets loose a plague to REDUCE POPULATION and ” save the planet ”

( Reality to be determined : Status , Developing )
See Georgia Guide Stones list of instructions for a Brave New World.

Dr. Mysteriouso

Bingo, you are correct, Koontz is an agent, hired by the CIA I am sure. Fear creates profit and control. The wealth elite are going to profit immensely and gain more power than ever.

Wake up

Scary part about all this, is that there are evil scientist out in this world with inhumane ideas and are capable of committing such mortal crimes on others.


Anyone can be corrupted for the right price, unfortunately


40 takes a year to write and publish..or more


That s easy- author were CIA or part of the cult. Or he was just hired to write the book.

Erik Dee

The movie Resident Evil also has several eerie parallels to the Wuhan situation. Umbrella corp logo, Racoon City, etc.


He is a Freemason. That’s why.

They meet often and have knowledge of what’s coming and create accordingly.

Songs + music videos, movies, books, comics, ads, cartoons, animated movies, etc. are written/created accordingly to prepare the masses. That’s Predictive Programming.

The movie James Bond movie “Spectre” gives a peek into how it all goes down.

Of course popular pawns such as Bieber, Katy Perry, lil nas x, Drake, Eilish, The Weeknd, etc. all have also their works and videos cut accordingly to impress their followers with the elite’s agendas.

The Weeknd’s video of his huge hit “starboy” has very clear clues that he is a pawn.

The red inverted cross prominently shown in the video is difficult to miss amongst the other MK Utra references which set the tone of the video.

Try going back watching the videos of songs you like(d) and your favorite artists past or present. You might be surprised of the symbols in those videos hinting at very disturbing things.


Most Freemasons I’ve met are as dumb as doorknobs though, dining club boys. People shouldn’t get distracted by the lower ranking drama queens ( the majority) , they should invest in learning about the ones right at the top for worthwhile clues.


Probably because they’re low rank masons


It’s odd that the Georgia Guidestones were erected in 1980 with one of it’s “commandments” being, “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature”, and then this book sees the light one year later. In 1980 the world population was +-4.5 billion people, so why did they use the word “maintain”? There has to be a catastrophic event that reduces the population to 500 million, before it can be maintained at that level. Predictive programming all the way

Aidsing and Abetsing

“There has to be a catastrophic event that reduces the population to 500 million, before it can be maintained at that level. Predictive programming all the way”

Maybe they thought the AIDS virus would do it. It spreads through the natural lusts of humans, while the media spreaded more and more sexy imagery to make sure people did the job.

I’ve heard before that some places in central Africa it worked to thin out entire villages. But overall, it seems AIDS is taking its sweet time to cull the surplus population, so don’t be surprised if some new methods are introduced.

Truth & Light

Cancer is doing it too

B Paul

Read Dr Theodore streckter 1983 memorandum– (aides was man made) gave up his medical practice to prove this,died mysteriously, his son took up the task to finish his work he died mysteriously both deaths ruled suicide, very interesting study.

Water on the dance floor

“Try going back watching the videos of songs you like(d) and your favorite artists past or present. You might be surprised of the symbols in those videos hinting at very disturbing things.” Speaking of which, today I happened to listen to Michael Jackson’s Blood On The Dance Floor CD for the first time in 25 years again. I enjoyed it quite, but yes, indeed I picked up how it’s all about coffins and ugly horrific things and ghosts and the instrument sounds they used are really abrasive sounds. Not to mention “blood on the dance floor”. WTH???? Well there was more things I picked up now that I previously did not about this music, but now I forgot all the specifics. But you get the drift. It’s so ugly and negative and all about death and ugly things and defensiveness and whatnot. And I peeked at the pictures on the cover booklet. What in blazes is that creature??? I’m talking about Michael Jackson. He’s a black man, or started out as one, but I know what black people look like and that thing ended up a freak that makes the hair on my neck raise with a negative feeling. Is… Read more »


Vigilant citizen has article about MJ. Search it out.


With respect, never ever diss MJ. He is the KING. And he tried to warn us. Learn to ‘decode’. Look intently at the album cover of ‘Blood on the Dance Floor’. What do you see in the background? NYC in fire & smoke. What time is Michael indicating with his arms? 9/11. What is he revealing as beneath it all? The Masonic Checker Board floor. MICHAEL JACKSON is an Angel. It’s Coded into his very Name ~ MICHAEL. A darling Child Prodigy, a Humanitarian with a 164 IQ, higher than Einstein. He is BELOVED around the entire Globe, & no matter how hard the media scum try to bring this Beautiful Being down, they will never suceed. For MJ resides in a frequency of Pure Love via his own high Sound vibration. Look up Nikola Tesla. Do some research, real research. And give respect to this KING. He is Beautiful, Loving, Giving, & MJ Always, has Always, honoured & given All his Thanks to G~D. ♡♡♡


He was a sick perverted child molester if you ever did miss that.


Educate yourself dude, i suppose you think he s been convicted for child molesting ?


He bought the boys silence
Educate yourself.
He loved little boys that´s fact.
He was the most famous pederast in the world.


I’m going to reply below, slowly, to grant a modicum of time for your brain to ascertain what is reality Sir.


They used that to smear tf out that mans name


@Insaniac With respect, your very user name reflects your intellect. You know MJ is completely innocent, & greedy liars are adter the fortune that rightfully belongs to his children. MJ is also Seriously Gorgeous, so perhaps curb your jealousy & instead show a little honour

P. Brown

I believe MJ was a trauma-based mind control victim, like so many other celebrities who were exploited as children. It had to start with his parents.


He most definitely was. I’ve read some terrible things about what him and his brothers were subjected to

Pity the slaves

He WAS no king. He had no REAL kingdom. Most of the World have never heard of him & even FEWER loved him. As to residing in a frequency, that is off the scales!


you Vibe on a very low frequency lol, it’s why you don’t understand and think it’s “off the scales” and why you don’t jive with what’s on this thread.. we all vibrate at a higher frequency and you don’t have the capacity to grasp it


I may be incorrect, yet it would appear you may be a white male redneck american. Hope I’m wrong. Michael Jackson is adored in Every country across the world, far, far above the usa. Take a little look on Instagram, by typing in Michael Jackson’s name, yet be forewarned of an adoring, swooning, near hysterical Global Fan base


There’s some weird stuff involving MJ.. including the fact that they replaced him with someone else after the Pepsi incident. There was a video I saw years ago that was supposedly the real Michael Jackson describing a lot of this stuff

Eva Wilson

RDNA is recombinant DNA, created in labs.


Remember the VC article on last year’s performance of Madonna at the Eurovision finale? A bunch of dancers with gas masks on were dying all around her on a scene set on apocalyptic fire. The dancers represented the masses, according to VC. Also, everyone debated how bad Madonna sang but no one listened to the lyrics she sang while pointing finger at the audience. “Not everyone is coming to the future… not everyone who’s here is gonna last”. Coincidence?


You’re right!! Look at that article again. Think of where the performance was located and what she told them about not coming into the future. And then look at what is happening around that area now with the Covid-19 virus, especially Iran

Daniel Houseworth

I’m an avid reader and have read many of Koontz books. My favorites are Watchers, Midnight, The Bad Place and The Taking. I’m going to reread them with a new mindset.


LOVE Watchers! My absolute fave!

P. Brown

I love the Odd Thomas series!


I just reread Watchers again after 20 years. Awesome!


The show Chernobyl with gas masks everywhere as predictive programming?


They don’t know. I call it the mouth of madness effect( John carpenters film). Books, movies, music-anything we consume is driving our reality. Not the other way around. If the idea is seeped into the sun conscious of man, it will become man’s reality.


Its not predictive programming but Prophetic.

Its the rider on The White Horse.

That is the 4 horsemen on the cover of the Economist 2019 means.

Look at the Virus fiery red with crowns in the blood.

12 His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself.
13 He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God.


You can say the movie The Omen was also Prophetic, but you have to think outside the box or add { ISM } to Zion, then it will make more sense.

” When the Jews return to Zion { ism } and a comet fills the sky, and the Holy Roman Empire rises; then you and I must die. From the eternal sea he rises, creating armies on either shore, turning man against his brother, ’til man exists no more.

The Biblical poem by Father Brennan about the Antichrist’s birth and rise to power.


Sympathy for the devil by the rolling stones is also Prophetic.

Look at Trump and Patton that’s what the song is about.

Please allow me to introduce myself
I’m a man of wealth and taste { Trump }

I rode a tank
Held a general’s rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank { Patton }

Researchers think Patton was shot in the head.

Trump and Patton also look alike.

There is also a carving of Trumps face in a 700 year old church, think it is.

P. Brown

I think they were describing the Devil masquerading as anyone with a Cult of Personality. Satan sometimes comes disguised as an Angel of Light…


The song is most definitely about satan, many disguises and can infiltrate anything. Even the air we breathe is poisoned now, he’s literally in everything.

There was a reason he offered Jesus the world in his hand, he’s the master of the earth right now as he was banned from heaven. He knows his time is short so s--t is bad and only going to get worse. S--t has progressively gotten worse since the industrial revolution. Jesus refused because he knows he’ll inherit the kingdom. Sorry for getting preachy lol but I have a passion for the truth and will make sure JAH my creator gets his praises and sovereignty. From a creative perspective, if you made something and someone tried to say you didn’t and that you didn’t exist, wouldn’t you be mad as hell and want your recognition too?

Bella Swan

Luckily HIV is not deadly anymore. This Corona Virus does smell of biological warfare though…

annihilator of barbarians

The fact that the book cover has one eye means that the Illuminati did it probably.They want to reduce the population in order to control it easier.Maybe this is the beginning of this goal

Game Over

Don’t forget revealing their plans in the open serves a couple of purposes: 1)predictive programming, it’s how they do satanic rituals according to the Kabbalah magic, saying something before doing it, that’s what they are spreading nowadays through their puppets on Instagram, “manifestation” & “speak it into existence” law of attraction satanic BS. 2) they are playing god while hiding in plain site at the same time, so people would see the occult elite as in control of the events & what will happen tomorrow, instead of God. Pay attention!!!


If I may add,,,,I think they are required to tell. There are rules to this “game”


You’re right, it’s an aspect of lesser magick that requires the deceiver reveals the deception. Not 100% sure why, I’m no spellcaster and I’m wary of looking too deeply at that stuff!

Oh please...

I believe it all has to do with the element of free will..

David Henry

Hiya everybody 🙂 I’m newish here but let’s see if I can add something relevant….thank you….dh Intent, Consent and Authority. Allows them to evade natural spiritual law and implement anti life reversal laws/lords. If we do not have intent, it allows them to plant their false/reversal laws into consciosness and gives consent and authority to these false laws/lords. I guess they are free to superimpose their negative karma onto us in this case and they can circumvent natural law by getting us to foot the bill, if we go along with their game unchecked. It’s the small print so to speak. So they leak it out, plant it in our subconscious and keep us distracted, in such a way that if we are not paying attention we just give up our sovereignty and freedom and hand over the keys to the kingdom. So mainsteaming satanism is kinda like an open business transaction and they are trying to lay out the terms and condition of the contracts and get us to consent to the anti life agendas. So we can call this out, self govern our Intent, Consent and Autority and cancel all these contracts and agreements and take our power… Read more »


Plausible deniability. That way if the masses do finally figure out they’re s--t game they can just pull “but we put it in everything, you just didn’t catch on”

Victoryia Davis



You can create a life u want (manifesting)
Without being a satanist


It is funny how the sheep get all nervous now, BIOLOGICAL ATTACKS are going to be how it’s done, cheaper than war, we aint seen nothing yet!


No kidding, as there is a death star on our planet.


What does that mean exactly, there’s a death star on our planet?





D D d



CERN The Hadron Collider deep underground on the Swiss Franco boarder


Wait a sec, the title says “eyes”. Why is there only one eye on the cover? 😉

Truth & Light

“ Don’t buy China’s story: The coronavirus may have leaked from a lab” -NY Post.


I’d be more inclined to believe china’s story than a story from The NY Post. I also wonder if that a little Freudian slip, the NY post are the ones who are telling a “story”

Lizard King

Nice to see something new but still waiting for stuff about super bowl and the Grammys. Should be a motherload of demonic weirdness from those two events. And what about Kobe Bryant funeral? Maybe vigilant citizen needs to have more employees to cover all of these horrible happenings. How come I am getting the feeling that 2020 going to be an extremely hellish year.


Because it is Morrison! this is the start of a new decade of agony, and IMO…this will be the last decade of human life as we KNEW it, you know, when people wanted to live, work, be happy, now it’s all just smart phone, instant gratification/fame seeking, sick sexual acts and DRUG INDUCED DEATH, ZOMBIES, hail Satan because the end has been reached.


End of what?


You only see it from your view you know, for some countries life as they knew it is over since a long time


Lol I caught your reference you sly dog.. calling the lizard king Morrison. God rest his soul.


I’m sure VC is working hard on the articles but it takes time. It’s an independent author who has to keep an actually paying job. I hope he reaches the goal of 500 Patrons so he could earn enough to has this as his only job. He deserves it.


It is clear that deep state wants a third world war very badly to wipe out about hl of the entire population. They send this bio weapon to China in order to begin a war between China and USA but it backfired. They drop hints everywhere around us. In movies, songs, literature, and etc. Symbolism rules the world.

“At least 4 billion “useless eaters” shall be eliminated by the year 2050 by means of limited wars, organized epidemics of fatal rapid-acting diseases and starvation. Energy, food and water shall be kept at subsistence levels for the non-elite, starting with the White populations of Western Europe and North America and then spreading to other races. The population of Canada, Western Europe and the United States will be decimated more rapidly than on other continents, until the world’s population reaches a manageable level of 1 billion, of which 500 million will consist of Chinese and Japanese races, selected because they are people who have been regimented for centuries and who are accustomed to obeying authority without question.”-committee of 300-


everyone had better alert everyone in their circle to what’s happening. There are a lot of clueless people. Maybe we can stop this madness.


But will they listen?

Daniel Houseworth

Most won’t. They’ll find out for themselves soon enough. I have abandoned all efforts to wake up the sheep. They believe everything they see on TV is true. Completely brainwashed.


How do you know that the war will definitely not take place? Coronavirus is far from over. There is a media blackout which has illogically lowered the panic level from our safe observation point. Others say that it is the Orientals and Southern Indians who will be decimated through climate interference etc. Far right extremism is definitely mobilised but badly misguided ( as evidenced by the incident in Germany yesterday).

They need reeducating about who is a part of their race and who isn’t. The media has skewed their focus onto religion differences because race and the origin of the indo aryan spec-is is the real thing to concentrate on. In particular, how it differs crucially from the other specis promoted heavily via neo liberal policy since the 1960s as proven by suppressed study after study.


You believe the news coming out of the Third Reich? Gullible. They can demonize the people who are fighting back against the invasions of Islam in Germany, but I don’t blame the people for fighting back. They’re not far right either. You are certainly drinking the Koolaid.


There is no invasion of Islam. That’s the usual fear generating perfected since crusader times. I am living in that region so I can see it for myself.

95% of the population is stably white in all these controversially ‘flooded’ lands. You see a picture of a dinghy with a few dark skinned people on it and you see thousands of parasitic people when there are only few.

D D d

You live i aa secluded area there too? I live in the netherlands, and I see the immigrants of the past decades. I grew up with turkeys friends at schools.The numbers increased, instead of those families going back to their homeland after they worked there s off for little money here. With the refugees the numbers got bigger in large steps.
They are not the problem, the governmentally disturbed organising distress are.


Yes, in the cities, the recent refugees are more conspicuous because they form ghettos in urban areas of established immigration ( often near mainline train stations. I’ve seen it in various cities in Germany and Italy , I never noticed it in The Netherlands but I’ve only been there a few times). They also seems to have an accepted culture of male -only cafes which should be closed down, as well as young immigrant men standing around in the street together. It may be how they have always lived but they do themselves no favors. I have been catcalled in the dark even though I had my kids with me and felt intimidated. That said, I was also helped by a really unsavoury looking character at Garibaldi in Naples who turned out to be really decent. The women in nikabs ( where you can only see their eyes) is also highly divisive and to put it bluntly, it should have been banned all over Europe from the start. You simply can not integrate within an established society wearing that. I know many Sufis who tell me that there is no religious obligation to wear it. It is cultural and oppressive… Read more »

D D d

”culture of male -only cafes which should be closed down, as well as young immigrant men standing around in the street together”
I am not going to get into this mess..


Your call.


And yet you can’t help but comment and try to bait her, but no, of course you are not getting into this mess. Pffffft. Believe what you want, but humans are tribal, and what she says about assimilating is true. Wonder how I’d fare refusing to respect their culture? Which is just existing as a female. It’s ugly. The mess is ugly.

D D d

Maybe we should probit some more societal norms. Let’s start with cutting into children for future purpose of ritual sex like Noa and her tribes do to their ofspring?


“He that is born in thy house .. must be circumcised ; and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant” Genesis 17

Adam, the first man, wasn’t born with a foreskin. When he lived in the Garden of Eden/ Tree of Life he was spiritually complete and realising his infinite potential while existing solely in a spiritual body.
After The Fall, he fell from the pure, spiritual reality into the negative world of shame and darkness which we live in today. That is when the foreskin appeared on Adam, when he took on an earthly body.
It is basically a concentration of negative energy associated with limitation and detachment from our true spiritual nature. It is the only part of the male body which has no role in soul correction. The only correction it needs is it’s removal. Without that, it is impossible to reconnect back to the Tree of Knowledge. It is removed as soon as possible after birth ( after the week it takes for the soul to enter a newborn child’s body) to allow the beneficial energy to flow as soon as possible.


Our interpretation of our faith means that we choose to do it. We don’t impose that choice upon others. Muslims, Jews, some Christians, Taoists and make this choice but in every one of those groups, there are those who opt out.

Nobody is telling you to do it or judging you for not having it done Ddd? It’s an entirely different issue because it’s entirely personal and is not affecting our interaction within society and with other faiths at all. There is no correlation whatsoever.


Circumcision is not a choice made by the infant receiving the trauma.


We made the choice, as parents, and witnessed no trauma. None whatsoever. We know many other babies who have had it and they are all happy, sociable children. Unless any children have come to you and personally told you that they found it traumatic, I can only assume that you have bought into a mind control myth circulating against particular religious groups. I cannot speak for botched operations or those who fall into the unfortunate tiny minority where it goes wrong despite medical competence but you have more chance of stepping into the road and being hit by a bus than falling into that category. Once more, my husband is in the priest class and it’s our covenant for us personally and we choose to do it. We don’t question why your faith leads you to do things which seem strange to us. I think people need to worry about their own personal problems rather than fixating on the non -problematic personal choices of others. If I ever find a legitimate reason to revise my position then I’ll let it be known immediately. Right now, I have a perfect little boy who from top to toe looks exactly as G-d… Read more »

D D d

Priestclass? Laughable if it was not for the cutting into children. Cutting into children based on a religious theory like you mentioned is a crime against those children. You do not give them anything but take something with force by cutting into them and think you correct your gods developements… Crime. Nothing less. Nothing t oo with amthoery about your or some god making a mistake by having nature grow a forskin, that is one of the most irrational justifications by a selfish egotistical shortminded parent who can not think for herself. Empathyless, selfish and cruel. Crime.


Don’t you ever get tired of stalking me, old man?

Why do you dare insult other people’s faiths when they are quietly going about their business without trying to influence or persuade you to change anything about yourself?
You stand for mainly, nothing really. you are an attack machine, a keyboard warrior with a narrow agenda to attack, shame and humiliate certain groups who don’t make sense inside your stubborn dense, broken mind.

You say you were brought up with Turkish people but you do nothing practical within your community to address your so- called ‘concerns’. It’s much easier to be a faceless coward online and repeatedly attack a mom you don’t know.

Nobody really gives a damn about your views on it. That includes all the people who belong to communities who choose this and the kids who have this and choose it for their children who do the same again and again over thousands of years. Nobody asked you whether you like it or not .

Find something usual to do and don’t approach me again with your failed psychological analysis of me ( my area of expertise, not yours so lay off) and deep seated delusions.

D D d

”when they are quietly going about their business” cutting into children ! Crime.


Doctor Noa, Given your area of expertise, the following data may be of interest to you. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Circumcised men responding to a questionnaire reported the following physical complaints: – prominent scarring (33%) – insufficient penile skin for comfortable erection (27%) – erectile curvature from uneven skin loss (16%) – pain and bleeding upon erection/manipulation (17%) Noticeably greater were the psychological complaints: – feelings of mutilation (60%) – low self-esteem/inferiority to “intact” men (50%) – genital dysmorphia (55%) – rage (52%) – resentment/depression (59%) – violation (46%) – parental betrayal (30%) Many respondents reported that their physical/emotional suffering impeded emotional intimacy with their partner(s), resulting in sexual dysfunction.[80] Prominent men known to be unhappy about being circumcised include Sigmund Freud,[81] A E Housman, W.H. Auden, Geoffrey Keynes and his brother John Maynard Keynes, the famous economist.[77] In 1996 the British Medical Journal published a letter by 20 men saying that “we have been harmed by circumcision in childhood”; they argued that “it cannot be ethical for a doctor to amputate normal tissue from a normal child”.[77] Dr. Benjamin Spock (1903 – 1998), whose Baby… Read more »


Hello there. The young lady was right. The Gentile wants to drop a nut and regularly. They assume it here. You never understood her lesson if you think this proves a point to her. BMJ is discredited. Noa is an impatient one.Her lesson to learn is to keep it to herself and leave the beast in the wilderness. Share with your tribe Noa.


Deep seeded. Think about it.


Those kids are meta human. I can certify it. What a beast you are. You know little.


Circumcision is what separates man from beast, IMHO.


Circumcision is not of the flesh, but of the Heart..which comes from The Grace of GOD.

P. Brown

Right out of the New Testament. The birth, death and resurrection of Christ created a New Covenant between man and God. Christ replaced the old Jewish Law.

Creator = Omniscient

That version originates from PAUL who hated Jesus’ message & according to Christians also disputed by James the brother of Jesus & his Jerusalem Church.
Jesus followed Judaism & Jewish Law to the last jot & tittle. There was NO metaphoric circumcision by his lived example AFAIK.


@Seeker, you have supported certain posts by Branch and Joan which identify a certain religious group as barbaric which makes me certain that you aren’t really on this thread to learn, just to oppose those laws and covenants (and of course, endorse Ddd’s views )

D D d

Maybe you missed some post by Seeker in which we learned Seeker is a human being with a thinking mind that developes and learns. Seeker did not endorse all my views, Noa. But wait you are in defensive mode and you defend by attacking with sidelines and hiding behind theories. Seen it before with you. If it weren’t for newborns and other children that goung to be cut in their genitals for future sex as demanded by ancient tribes and some parents, I would ignore you, but I can not.

Are you going to tell us some more of your family’s history now and accuse me of being a mason like several times before, mimicking d.i.d. but in a strange manner.. (No, i am not, and have never met your mom, your uncle or you in a early life. Oh, and your fake remote viewing claim is ridiculous please drop that act.)


Thank you DDd.
I stated one fact and Noa turned on me.
I wish her peace.


O The obstinacy of the gentile! And
The tale of a princess revealing lessons too hastily to the bestial ones who weren’t ready to receive.

D D d

Maybe some folk here are missing my point of my fighting against Noa’s gnostic windmills here.
It is not only about Noa and her tribe/cult, but about millions of men, and women all around the world, who have their child circumcised.
I hope more people read and take notice, because millions of parents are doing it to their child, some even without thinking accept the hospitals habit of doing it unasked because it is the norm in that hospital.
Noa tries to make up a theory or hang on to several to justify it and defends it to me. I have respect for that alone. But
I never will justify ruthless cutting into children without medical reasons.

D D d

And thank you Seeker for the providing enormous background information I left out my posts. Now readers can more easily look things up themselves and decide this discussion is worth having or not!
Just stating they are not interested by Noa is just fudder and noise, using generalisation for her own points.


Wtaf is “ fudder” lol?! Nobody said that about me, you wish for them to think it do you are directing their thought processes that way, you despicable little fool of a man. I know your game lol.
In terms of formal education, I am way, way beyond your level for a start so you may desperately wish it but I think you already know that Ddd.
You are deeply jealous and vindictive.

Btw, cutting and pasting from Wikipedia is hardly “ enormous background information” . “Question everything” remember? Or does that only apply when it suits your petty, antifa agenda? Cut and paste doesn’t show much discernment at all and I’d reinforce the point made by somebody above who agreed but it is already flying way above your little head.

You condition one poster or another into submission to your bs authority ( how’s the toothache? Are you still thinking about it? Remember?). I don’t have time for bullies or submissives so get out of my lane.


“selfish egotistical shortminded parent who can not think for herself. Empathyless, selfish and cruel. Crime.“ You call that “ respect”? You know where I think you should stick it lol Excuse me while I laugh. You are a raging covert narcissist and I can’t surely be the only one who sees right through it! You harass me on every thread for the last six months where I am discussing the relevant topic, because you want to talk about cut penises. I am not interested in discussing it with you at all. I have no interest whatsoever. But you do it anyway. You do it to derail the discussion and ridicule me. It’s all Because I know more about the occult than you probably ever will and you absolutely can’t stand that. You disgust me but I check the thread today and it’s “Noa this…Noa that” like you can speak on my behalf or have a handle on my thought processes. Save it for the marines, seriously. “Noa makes up theories”.. well, no, lots of people know about it but typical to your condition, you cannot accept that, can you? You are such a textbook case and like all the others,… Read more »


Noa, it’s no use arguing with him. He doesn’t know or respect God. God made us as we are, and if He required a covenant that involved blood, it was for a reason, one totally related to our sinful nature. He knows that circumcision wouldn’t ruin a man’s life; unless, of course, if there was an accident or incompetence during the procedure. But you know what? As incredible and as surprising as it may sound, I’m not traumatized, nor damaged for life after having to come out of my mother’s womb, nor having the umbilical chord that united us cut. It’s funny that I don’t suffer the shots I had to take as a baby. Something must be clearly wrong with me, because I don’t remember any of that! As a psychologist, would you say, with your educated knowledge, that I’m damaged for not experiencing that trauma? Anyways, Jesus was circumcised, too. Only after He gave His life for us on the cross did circumcision stop being a requirement, since His blood was enough for us all and no other sacrifice is required from us. So no; circumcision, male circumcision, that is, is not a crime. Pay no mind to… Read more »


Excuse my sarcasm and lack of patience, but this talk is like chewing gum. Too much chewing for zero nutrition. And chewing with one’s mouth open is obnoxious.

D D d

Noa wants the freedom to cut into children to Damage their Nerve-system On Purpose, but
she wants to prohibit people looking like immigrants from talking to eachother on streetcorners or even in their own designated coffee- or teahouses…

I react to more posts, than just noa’s. She is not special to me, but she acts like she wants to gather a following herself, and I point out holes in her theories and object to inhumane propaganda – that must annoy the hell out of her as we all can read..


It’s getting cold and dark, DDd.
You made your point, now what is the point of carrying on? …Competition? …Spite? …Sadistic revelry?
What ghastly wounds must you be nursing to cut into Noa like this?

D D d

It is bigger than just that nerve system, it is the way the child reacts and how the community manipulate it’s life. Damaged from the start.. Thát has effect for the rest of their lives, mentally too! We at these comsecs are all about sharing signs of manipulation and abuse. This is a part of it !
What better moment to start the tactics of hurt and controll of emotional reactions, than as soon as possible: the child’s youngest days weeks years. Under pretenses and false reasons for it even. Correcting some adam’s mistake and nature growing a foreskin buy cutting it off? Ridiculous. (Sheep’s skin used as disguise.)
People should read up on more honest books on how humans develop from conception through puberty. Then, maybe they would think twice about cutting into them, UNLESS the Manipulation is the goal.
Not even the women can know, the tribal men are only honest to tribal men.


Hmm… interesting reference to lambskin and fraternal honesty.


I read the comment she made about gatherings differently. I understood that she is not “condemning” the gatherings, but rather pointing out that, when they do gather and close themselves in cultural clusters instead of trying to become a part of the new society they moved into; or try to assimilate some and share others, exchange cultural differences really–which is my favorite part of cultural differences by the way–that’s where the problem starts. If they look different, keep to themselves and don’t want to be a part of the new society, it can be scary for the natives of the countries they immigrated to. And then you hear stories where they want to enforce sharia laws in their new countries–that’s not a rule, but there are accounts of that–, which are propagated by msm blowing everything out of proportion, people do get scared. And when they see the newcomers’ exclusive gatherings, they will be scared, because they are “probably plotting the next attack or random act of violence”. It’s an unending cycle. Ignorance from both sides begets fear, hatred and prejudice. I’ve said this before, maybe you saw that. But my understanding on Noa’s comment was this, which I agree… Read more »

D D d

Work immigrants and refugees Are Gathered and treated as a Group, is what I hear read and see. They do not have a chance of normally socialising like a native citizen does have. From the start.
Mixing with locals is very hard, as there are hardly any normal local neighbourhood hangouts left but the street. Remember, I wrote about that too early on here. The dividing is unnatural for decades, not just with recent rufugees. In Holland refugees are left to their own devices by social aidworkers that are limited in their jobs by rules and such too.
Most are traumatised and not treated. The arriving even is traumatising here, not just their homecounties. No help, just a lot of headlines about it. Mental and psychological guidance by governmental institutuons for that purpose here is a farce, as it is with autochtones for decades already too.

D D d

”if He required a covenant that involved blood, it was for a reason, one totally related to our sinful nature”
Read it in a book? Saw some clay tablets and a friend translated them to you and said it is the truth?
I ask for safety for children in this life that need to grow up healthy and as intact as possible. Some others say thAt is the way God intended humans to be: uncut.
Which God is right, if there is one, Yours?


I had written something else for you here three or four days ago, but they didn’t allow it to be published, unfortunately. I’ll leave it here, as I don’t want to type everything again on my phone at the risk of it being censored again.


@Noa, upon reflection, you are right. Sacrificing my self and my views does not heal DDd, nor can it. I’m no intactivist – quite the opposite, actually! Having associated circumcision with Judaism, and until recently viewing some comparative photos, I had always thought it was the standard! Which, living in the United States, should come as no surprise. Perhaps it will delight DDd to know that, globally, circumcision rates are down, though the USA and Israel continue to have the highest rates, overall. Also, there are countless reasons males should get cut, including medical. Everyone should look into it.

D D d

Children should not get cut UNLESS there is a medical reason.

Why is making the link to mental Abuse in the future, by others even than just the parents, so abstract here? It is shown direct and even acknowledged by the offenders appearantly.

The trauma is not only physical, damaging the body – but also mentally:
For examples when it settles in the man’s mind that his body and being was being compromissed by a third party. Nothing to say about his own genitals in this world… because of theories..
Abuse of that emotion, in exactly that area is hard to imagine for a lot of people. Still. because of lies. And disassociations.

Think, men. And feel!


The few men who get fixated on this matter usually have a more general mental health problem and overfocus on this one issue as a means of feeling in control of the situation


Man will never heal nor conquer, so long as he perceives circumcision as an act of violence and his manhood as a source of shame. Regardless of others’ actions or impositions, it ought to be a source of empowerment.

Permanently unsheathed swords are masculine and emblematic of a warrior. The only sheath a man should know is woman. Isn’t that divine union? Two become one and both are made whole.

Genesis 2:24. Leave mother and father behind.
Love and forgiveness – for self and for others – is the only way forward.

D D d

Sometimes I am amazed by blind spots in people that believe their eyes are open.
What is more important to you: have children not cut into without their consent or medical reason, or the opinion of a/some parents who claims vision but ignores blatant truths and a child’s right to be whole, as born and created by ‘God’ as his image???
What theory could be justified for damaging a child’s body??
A religious one? Ridiculous.


Everyone has blind spots, the bigger problem is tunnel vision; God alone has perfect sight. Infants and children do not have consensual or legal rights, nor should they – that is the responsibility of their parent(s) or legal guardian(s). This entire argument comes at the behest of the state and it is gaining traction due to a widespread system of psychological abuse. Parents are losing their rights to the state. But everyone champions individual rights over parental rights because most people are single, unmarried, or several times divorced. Why should they care about families? Most are so traumatized by their upbringing and, having witnessed their parents’ dysfunctional relationship and dissolution or divorce, are choosing to abstain from a lifelong commitment of loyalty and intimacy. Their parents betrayed them enough; why provide the opportunity for a lover to do the same? Selfishness. The same reason children today are largely unwanted and unplanned. “Women’s rights” amounts to the state-sponsored murder of the unborn, with no regard to the wishes of biological fathers. It is the wholesale destruction of the family unit and thus the fabric of society, right before our very eyes! By vociferously opposing circumcision, you are essentially advocating its abolition.… Read more »

D D d

You amaze me Seeker, you state the right to cut into a child as more important as the right of that creation being as whole as he is born into this life? But acknowledge it is a thing the infant should have a say in, the trauma and such? What balance is there?
I find making that decission cruel and egoistic of those parents. Shortsighted too: As we all can read and see that people are generally easily fooled into theories about other stuff, important suff too. Like knowing about propaganda and the power of wordplay and symbolism. ‘You’ are affronted by Jay-Z and Beyonce making gestures but allow our fellow humans, neighbours, spouses, abstract doctors and more damage your child’s being. Based on the same kind of propaganda – for centuries.
Most of who reacted to what I was saying, most repeated the religious theories all ignored the right to be whole as born a human – any human.
I think you all lost the sense of what that is..
That makes me sad, and does not deminish my position on cutting into a child for the sake of theories..


I’m amazing, what can I say? 🙂 Seriously though, life is traumatic. The infant has no say in circumcision, but stating that in no way implies that I believe the decision belongs to him? It’s just a fact.
Today, children are clamoring for their entire member to be amputated. How does that strike you? Oh wait, you’re probably cool with that because it is their choice, etc., etc.
Noa suggested you are uncut; perhaps you desire all males to be made in your image? 😉
More to the point, unless you sire a male, need you care?

D D d

I have met too many damaged people, damaged by their parents too.
Thank you for your concern.

My point of view has nothhing to do wih me being circumcised or not. That you go that way of discussing is telling, it is what I am accused of.
But this discussion highlights the confusion caused by propaganda and fairytales once more. Oh the power of imagination.
Oh the cruelness of mankind.


The world is broken, as is every person born into it. Before the first snip, before the first breath; none of us, male or female, even have a chance. But that doesn’t stop us from striving for self-perfection, or wallowing in self-pity because others have—directly or indirectly, intentionally or unintentionally—wronged us. Most spend a lifetime in proud denial of our brokenness – the most fundamental truth. It takes humility to accept, but once we do, the burden of perfection and performance is lifted; we find forgiveness for ourselves, and are then able to extend that same forgiveness to others.

This is the true circumcision that brings completion.
It is the way of Jesus Christ, who is the invisible God made visible.

D D d

Distractions Seeker, nothing more and nothing contributing. As usual you make it difficult to follow your trains of thought.
AgAin theories and quotes about religion as justification for damaging and abusing chikdren. Your God made a mistake when creating humans life by having it grow a p---s? And you too accuse me of spite or a disie to have all males like me?
Looks like you have been to the allknowing ancient school of selfish sacrificing impatient god-playing gnostics too, seeker?

D D d

p—s ws used instead of mentioning the male genitalia, to protect the innocent and easily offended, probably.


Gross. A frustrated lonely voice calling out from the land of sexual progression. Does it ever end?

Anne Elizabeth Brown

I’m having some difficulty grasping how wonderfully, peaceably assimilated children are so simply radicalized by “forceful new arrivals” if all goes so well?

D D d

A lot of so called white youngsters are burning cars, bushes, trashcointainers too. Colour has not much to do with that phenomena, or place of birth.

Reality sucks

Race was created to further divide the people, don’t fall for it. Non of what’s going on is about race


Good thing I only eat to be useful! Phwew.


Love this!

P. Brown

I am reading The Committee of the 300. Everyone should read this book. It tells you who really runs the world. Some names you will already know. The governments of the world are not run by the individual leaders; they are controlled by a small group that has been in power for a very long time.


Stephen King’s The Stand was about a outbreak also


Captain Trips


Stephen King wrote The Stand after watching the original BBC series “Survivors”, circa 1970-something. The sickness was a virus that started in–wait for it–a lab in Chins and escaped said lab, spreading due to the ease of travel in modern life. Very 1970s but still eminently watchable.

P. Brown

It has been intimated that Stephen King is one of the Elite. Sometimes major talent and fame come with a price. He may have “sold his soul”, like so many others. Just a thought…


What about the part in the book that states:

“In around 2020 a severe pneumonia-like illness will spread through the globe, attacking the lungs and bronchial tubes and resisting all known treatments.”


‘The Simpsons’ does this ALL the time. I like to joke that they are time travelers. But it’s not actually funny.

As you know, there are a lot of books/movies about pandemics —

and ‘coronavirus’ is actually the name for the common cold (this version is called NOVEL Coronavirus because it’s new) —

but THE SPECIFIC NAMING OF WUHAN in 1981 when the lab wasn’t built until 2017. That’s… hard to explain.



2020 is also rearranged as 200 * 2 = 400

Dean Koontz is most likely a Freemason and therefore is privy to plans of the elite in advance and writes accordingly for the purpose of predictive programming.

Same thing Matt Groening with The Simpsons, Futurama, Disenchantment on Netflix and his previous comic strip interestingly called Life in Hell (1977–2012)

Warren Elliot

20 x 20 = 400


Haha I was thinking the same thing.


Wow! It all makes sense.


Look up Patent # 10,130,701


It’s a shame when someone knows where something is, but makes others go look for it. And so I did. All I could find was THIS website.

Way too scientific, and too hard to understand. But there it is. Don’t know what that article is really saying.
Do you have another or a different site, that might be easier to understand?

Bella Swan

What is all this!?


So, the Coronavirus is indeed tied and traceable to the British Crown.
Good time to move to Canada, eh? 😀

Anon 1

Britain is owned by the Vatican – Treaty of 1213


the red in the flag = socialist/communist canada is as bad as anywhere. russia i think is the place to go to watch the bolsheviks destroy the rest of the world.


What do those numbers add up to? 13.

Jeff Navarro

This patent is for a vaccine for a specific virus in the coronavirus category. “Coronavirus” is not a new thing…and it’s not one thing, it’s an entire category of viruses that has been studied for a long time. Nobody in the public knows what it is already, so the news just calls it “coronavirus” and the world thinks it’s something new on the scene.


It’s a hybrid of SARS & HIV Viruses. This is why in China so many are being vaccinated with the HIV vaccine. It’s been published in medical literature.


Trump is a freemason. Ii’m shocked that so many are fooled by him even as he constantly throws the triple 6.

I hope you do an article on him.


Lol he is not a Freemason. Good try. He may be working for the elite for all we know, but he’s not a mason.


I joined the masons just to see if I could. Its borning stupid s--t. I became a “master” mason in like 6 months. A porch mason. Got boring quick, burned my apron and tux and degree. S---s for dying old faggots

Reality sucks


P. Brown

Many of the world leaders are Free Masons. I have seen the distinct handshake in photos. Boris Johnson is one of them. Watch for a handshake where the person puts his thumb over the other person’s knuckle. Once you notice it, keep looking for it. You will be surprised.

P. Brown

Also, most of the lower-level Masons have no idea what the higher-ups are really about. The lower ones belong to charitable organizations and have meetings and pancake breakfasts! The top people have darker motives; most are 32nd or 33rd degree members. Walt Disney was one, hence “Club 33”.

Lazzaro Felice

Contagion (2011) gives you the exact date at which the virus would be diagnosed (12/1/2019)


When in the film?

Capt. Tripps

Dozens of films made to condition the public mind ;
28 Days Later
Andromedia Strain
Kingsmen # 2
28 Weeks Later
I Am Legend
12 Monkeys

Someone has spent a LOT of money to put this ‘ idea ‘ into pop culture for sure.


I was thinking about watching 5th Element again. All the facial scanners and futuristic stuff. I wonder. I’d forgotten about 12 monkeys though.


it reminds me also of a book that i don’t remember the name that predicted the sink of the titanic. But i really think that Everything is planified in advance and there isn’t such thing as “they predicted it” like we see it in comedy shows like : thé simsons, family Guy, south park….


The Wreck of the Titan. Futility is another title of the same book


You mean the book that is actually talked about in this article? Did you not read the entire article. It’s in there.


Always look forward to your articles.

D D d

Sometimes I read biographies and especially like autobiographies. I see the so called celebrities, but also real actors, writers, singer-songwriters, models, younameit get invited to eachothers’, researchers’, scientists’ and politicians’ dinnerparties. A lot. No big red carpet stuff, just homely, to be interesting table-guests. To hook up. (Warhols’diaries are a fine example for those interested, with little but telling info on how daily life can unfold in those circles.)
People talk, especially drunk people.

I looked Koonz up, as I could not remember having read him even once.
First thing coming to mind when I saw him was not philosophical or deep, but, ”It’s a wig”.

Second thing I saw, was a qoute on his wikipedia. More sinister. About a place he worked long ago. Where children were to be helped, but got lost, and ..disappeared.
Koonz developed distrust to governmental institutions – and was able to become a globally read succesfull novelist.
Really? What is it with some ‘facts’? Sometmes I feel i miss a point, a connection.


Dude… the wiki says the funding (the money spent) got lost and disappeared somewhere, not the children.

I’ve been a long-time reader of VC, but lately I’m growing more and more aware that this ain’t the truth. The fact is, we want to believe all this s--t, because at least there’s some meaning to life. There’s the bad guys: the elite, the puppet masters, and there’s the good: us, the civilians, the puppets. But we have to come to terms with the fact that this ain’t that black and white. We ourselves have the power to do good, and we also do some bad (unknowingly). We gotta empower ourselves and stop reading these posts (no offence VC), because it only makes us feel helpless. And no I’m no devout Christian, so I don’t believe God will deliver us or something. We got a chance as a people to make heaven right here on earth, while we’re still alive. Stop feeding your own ego with psychological horror, and start empowering it by helping those around you. Now go out there and provide!

D D d

Oh dear. Time for some new glassess and less coffee it is.
Darn, relief at the same time though.
I hope it was just this superficial mistake really.


It looks to me like somebody tried to spread fake information and got caught out. Well spotted, Wilco. I would question everything Ddd posts and what his real intentions are.


I don’t want to interfere but I do agree with you, young Noa

D D d

I was being hasty and did not take care enough. I fully regret my mistake and took it to heart to make up for this mistake.
I did not lie, I need better glasses and am affected by caffeine stronger than I am used too.
But surely, I have no problem with questioning my posts. I encourage that, and have spoken out in that matter before : question it all ! Do not believe me on my wit with words, oneliners or lack of patience.
I make mistakes and hope to learn from them. People pointing them out to me are helpfull, no matter what the tone or intention is.

Warrior Monk

Thanks, good words.


It’s interesting that corona ( crown) virus properly took off in China as soon as the UK government controversially approved Huawei to develop and control it’s 5g which Potus was passionately against.

A country which can control the cybertraffic of another is effectively ruling it. It was a bad idea, obviously from the new Weimar.

The UK, the occult mothership and lost empire, is currently up for grabs and seeking a guiding super-nation mentor now that it has quietly realised post Brexit that it risks becoming a lonely, little island with no reliable allies. coronavirus has conveniently struck and mistrust has resurfaced, I bet the 5g deal won’t ever materialise and the US will breathe a sigh of relief.

D D d

Uk the occult mothership? The 5g deal won’t materialise?
What remarkable things to say. The UK is part of a big family,
their goals shall be reached.
The US is not one hair better. Cousins?


I doubt Huawei can ever win the 5g contract now and that is a good thing.

I stand by the assertion that the UK is the epicentre of the occult universe and that is it’s main attraction on the international stage. It has a combined authority over Druidism and freemasonry. There is enough material out there to write several books on the topic.

D D d

China has tight connections to ‘the west’.
Past decades several politicians went there to negociate and achieve suces in bizniz. Holland is not the only country where the premiers and king/queens took some friends and signed deals. Years ago. Backroom deals. Several times.
It is not an island or an enemy, China is a partner – in on it.
It acts the same as the rest of the corrupted politic machines.

Duck or not a duck, that’s not the question. How to break the eggs is what counts.


Please Ignore this man, Noa.


I hate Remainers.


You think you do. There is no such thing as leavers and remainers. They are engineered divisive labels designed to distract the common man from the fact that regardless of outcome, the same tiny group of people will reap all the financial benefits. As usual.
Media has done a good job of using its reach to draw the populace into the debate to make them feel that they are involved, important and recognised. They never were and they never will be. It’s a big delusion which protects the interests of a tiny minority every single time. Sorry.


Yes, Noa.


Don’t forget about the movie Contagion and the similiarities with now


On the finale of Eurovision 2019, Madonna sang “Not everyone is coming to the future, not everyone is learning from the past, not everyone who’s here is gonna last” while pointing finger at the audince. Around her danced a dance of death people with gas masks on, falling all around her on a scene set on fire. According to VC, dancers represent the masses.

Mathias Karlsson

This was just a test
search for Event 201
Beware of the next one.

Look it up
Its a drill (oct18) funded by …..bill gates foundation etc to vaccine all people.
Keep humankind under 500 we are 7.5 billion
Pray real hard.


Event 201 ended after 18 theoretical months of a world wide coronavirus pandemic, and 65million theoretical deaths. Researchers in real life just found a protein that could lead to a coronavirus vaccine in… wait for it… 18 to 24 months.
Irrelevant Synchronicity?

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