Sinister Sites – Rockefeller Center

Feb 21st, 2009 | By Vigilant | Category: Sinister Sites

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“How can the site of the most famous skating rink in the world be considered sinister? You know the one that’s in all romantic comedies…the best first date activity ever!?  And what about that huge Christmas tree that we see in ALL holiday movies? That’s not sinister, that’s magical!”.

If that’s what you’re thinking right now, you should probably press pause on your “You’ve Got Mail” Deluxe Edition DVD  and read on. If you’re not surprised that a center called “Rockefeller” contains tons of occult and even luciferian symbolism, as well as references to a New World Order, then you should also read on because I will reinforce what you’re already thinking, and everybody likes that.

This complex of 19 commercial buildings is situated between Fifth and Seventh avenues in New York City and is famous for its Art Deco style. It is one of the last building projects in the United States to have incorporated a program of public art. The submissions chosen all fit a particular philosophy and some artists have been asked to change their work so it fits the theme of the Rockefeller center which is: Luciferianism.

Luciferianism

The Devil—Lucifer—is a force for good (where I define ‘good’ simply as that which I value, not wanting to imply any universal validity or necessity to the orientation). ‘Lucifer’ means ‘light-bringer’ and this should begin to clue us in to his symbolic importance. The story is that God threw Lucifer out of Heaven because Lucifer had started to question God and was spreading dissension among the angels. We must remember that this story is told from the point of view of the Godists (if I may coin a term) and not from that of the Luciferians (I will use this term to distinguish us from the official Satanists with whom I have fundamental differences). The truth may just as easily be that Lucifer resigned from heaven.
-Max More

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Modern Luciferianism takes its roots from Gnostic teachings as well as ancient Egyptian and Babylonian paganism. God of the material world is seen as a stubborn and sadistic figure who seeks to keep mankind into perpetual darkness while Lucifer is the savior of humanity by giving it the gift of knowledge. If we reinterpret the Adam and Eve story through Luciferian glasses, the serpent is actually the “undercover savior” who defied God and gave humans the opportunity to become gods themselves. He is credited to have unleashed man’s awesome potential.

“Luciferianism represents a radical revaluation of humanity’s ageless adversary: Satan. It is the ultimate inversion of good and evil. The formula for this inversion is reflected by the narrative paradigm of the Gnostic Hypostasis myth. As opposed to the original Biblical version, the Gnostic account represents a “revaluation of the Hebraic story of the first man’s temptation, the desire of mere men to ‘be as gods’ by partaking of the tree of the ‘knowledge of good and evil’”
-Raschke 26

Luciferians seek during their lifetime to reach a higher level of being by obtaining illumination (often represented by a torch). An illuminated person or (illuminatus) has gained enough mystic knowledge and spiritual attainment to reach a god-like status. Ancient Mystery religion promise the

“opportunity to erase the curse of mortality by direct encounter with the patron deity, or in many instances by actually undergoing an apotheosis, a transfiguration of human into divine“.
-Raschke 26

Luciferians do not necessarily worship “the Devil” as a metaphysical entity. Lucifer symbolizes the cognitive powers of man, its potential to reach godliness by its own means. Luciferians believe that those attributes will eventually dethrone God and bring humans to their rightful place, as deities. This doctrine is fully embodied by humanism and its technological counterpart transhumanism. Clothed in an acceptable phrasing inside a judeo-christian context (“humanist” sounds less threatening and evil than “luciferian”), these philosophies are now part of popular culture. Through technological advancements and scientific breakthrough, extremely wealthy figures like Ray Kurzweil are publicly seeking to reach technological immortality. Transhumanist intellectual Max More has stated in his essay:

God, being the well-documented sadist that he is, no doubt wanted to keep Lucifer around so that he could punish him and try to get him back under his (God’s) power. Probably what really happened was that Lucifer came to hate God’s kingdom, his sadism, his demand for slavish conformity and obedience, his psychotic rage at any display of independent thinking and behavior. Lucifer realized that he could never fully think for himself and could certainly not act on his independent thinking so long as he was under God’s control. Therefore he left Heaven, that terrible spiritual-State ruled by the cosmic sadist Jehovah, and was accompanied by some of the angels who had had enough courage to question God’s authority and his value-perspective.

Lucifer is the embodiment of reason, of intelligence, of critical thought. He stands against the dogma of God and all other dogmas. He stands for the exploration of new ideas and new perspectives in the pursuit of truth.
-Max More

So, what does all of this have to do with the Rockefeller Center? The sculptures, the bas reliefs and the murals all refer the same theme: the triumph of Man over God through the acquisition of knowledge.

Prometheus Fountain

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This statue depicts Prometheus, a Titan of Greek mythology known for his great intelligence. He has however betrayed the god Zeus by stealing fire and giving it to mankind. He therefore credited to have taught mankind the arts of civilization such as writing, mathematics, agriculture, medicine, and science. Zeus then punished Prometheus for his crime by having him bound to a rock while a great eagle ate his liver every day only to have it grow back to be eaten again the next day.

Prometheus [the name means Forethought] was a not a fool, but why else would he rebel against Zeus? He tried to trick Zeus (who knows all and sees all) with a false sacrifice. How foolish can you get? Prometheus also stole fire from Zeus and gave it to the primitive mortals on the earth. Zeus did not punish Prometheus alone, he punished the entire world for the effrontery of this rebel god.
-Stewart

The Judeo-Christian equivalent of this myth is Lucifer, who has brought the gift of consciousness to humanity, as the serpent in Adam and Eve.

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Blessed with great intelligence

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Saw great potential in mankind

Saw great potential in Adam and Eve

Defied Zeus’ authority

Defied God’s authority

Called the “Fire Bringer”

Called the “Light Bringer”

Severly punished by Zeus (tied up and had liver eaten by eagle daily)

Severly punished by God (expelled from the Heavens)

Humanity suffered the wrath of Zeus

Humanity suffered the wrath of God

Prometheus is the Hellenic equivalent of the Judeo-Christian Lucifer and is often used as the symbol of enlightenment.

Some classically-educated Free Masons and those inspired by their work used “luciferian” in the scholarly sense of “bringing enlightenment”, invoking Prometheus who stole fire from the gods to bring to man. Polemicists linked such Masonic usage with sects worshiping Lucifer, which have had persistent groups of followers since the Middle Ages.
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Paul Manship’s sculpture featured in the Sunken Plaza of the Rockefeller Center portays Prometheus holding the fire stolen from Zeus and gliding towards humanity. He lies inside a ring in which are outlined the signs of the Zodiac. Behind the statue is an inscription saying:

“Prometheus, teacher in every art, brought the fire that hath proved to mortals a means to mighty ends.”

“Mighty ends” means reaching enlightenment and acheiving godliness. This artwork basically sums up the Luciferian doctrine and acts as the central figure around which the Rockefeller Center’s art program revolves around.

Prometheus’ Creations

Flanking the statue of Prometheus are Youth and Maiden. These are the first humans created by from Prometheus out of clay.

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This is the setting: Prometheus (aka the Hellenic Lucifer) is located at the center of the Sunken Plaza and is flanked by his creation, mankind. In other words, we are Prometheus’ sons and daughters.

Urizen or the Demiurge

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On top of the entrance of the GE Building is this impressive Art Deco frieze. It depicts a bearded man holding a huge compass and a quote from the Book of Isaiah. This is a direct reference to William Blake’s “Urizen” engravement, where God is a bearded man holding a compass.

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This image is featured in Blake’s “Book of Urizen”, released in 1794. This obscure English author is known for his rich mythology, cryptic poems and prophetic imagery. This particular piece represents Urizen, the god of the material world. His traits are almost identical of the Gnostic god called “demiurge”, an inferior creator deity, who built a flawed world which imprisons man into the material realm. The Book of Urizen reflects the basic tenants of luciferianism, where the Good versus Evil struggle as described and Judeo-Christian philosophies are inverted.

“Blake’s work is thus an unprecedented and confounding critique of the very cornerstones of Judeo-Christian civilization: the Word and the Law. Evil is traditionally represented as a turning away from the one or the other – from Satan’s non servatim to the eating of the “forbidden fruit”, but here the Word and the Law are literally presented as manacles closing away the boundless possibility of the universe to the dull prison of the senses and the holy books. Science and religion cease to be opposing forces in Blake’s understanding, instead becoming obstacles to true knowledge – one by binding sight in the laws of the material universe, the other by binding thought in the words of the holy books. In this sense, the only possible “Good” as far as Blake is concerned, is the rebellion of sight – growing to see multiple possibilities through ecstatic vision. For Blake this probably meant mystical and artistic gnosis, but intellectually it can be applied to all kinds of pluralist, multilateral thinking, if not to literal “mind-expansion”.
-Daniil Leiderman

The Gnostic god featured at the entrance of GE building holds a huge compass which is used as a tool of creation. We find here a not-so-subtle reference to Freemasonry, where the compass is used by the “Great Architect” to shape the physical world.

Under Urizen we find the quote from the Book of Isaiah:

Wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times“.
- Book of Isaiah 33:6

The book of Isaiah as a whole contains prophecies of future times, predicting the fall and punishment of Babylon (both ancient and future “Babylon the Great”). The quoted verse describes what will sustain people in these prophesied times of great tribulations: knowledge and wisdom. Isaiah’s cryptic text describes a time where “nobody in Jerusalem shall be ill”, seemingly referring to times where science and technology would be advanced enough to cure man’s sickness. In this context, the “great tribulations” refer to the coming of a New World Order, where all countries would be united under a single world government, an admitted goal of the Rockefeller family.

Swords into Plowshares

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This relief refers to Isaiah 2:4 and depicts swords turning into plowshares. Here is the biblical verse:

He will judge between the nations
and will settle disputes for many peoples.
They will beat their swords into plowshares
and their spears into pruning hooks.
Nation will not take up sword against nation,
nor will they train for war anymore.

-Isaiah 2:4

Again, this is a subtle yet very direct allusion to a New World order. The verse describes a whole with one court for all nations, one government for all nations and the coming of an era of world peace. The image of swords being beaten into plowshares is also prominently shown on one of the New World Order murals of the Denver International Aiport.  Members of the Rockefeller family have always been actors working towards a one world government and it is not surprising to find references to this plan etched on their buildings. David Rockeller stated in his memoirs

“For more than century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family from the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as “internationalists” and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world if you will. It that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it”.
-Memoirs, David Rockefeller p.405

Question is: were they already aware of a plan for a New World Order in the 1930′s, when the Plaza was built? Answer: Yes, yes they were. The idea isn’t new at all.

Atlas

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Guess why Atlas has been forced to carry the celestial world on his shoulders? Because he defied Zeus the god. The north-south axis of the armillary sphere on his shoulders points to the North Star as viewed from New York City. Laid across Atlas’s shoulders is a wide, curved beam that displays a frieze of the traditional symbols for Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune. Adjacent to Earth (over Atlas’s right forearm) is a small crescent symbolizing the Moon. Affixed to one of the sphere’s rings are symbols for twelve constellations through which the Sun passes during the year.

This sculpture can be described as a luciferian equivalent of Christ nailed to the cross. Atlas is sacrificing himself for his act of defiance against the gods.

The sculpture has caused its fair share of controversy. First, the nude and pagan statue was placed right in front of St.Patrick’s Church, which wasn’t well accepted at the times. Second, from behind, the statue looks like crucified Jesus Christ.

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Finally, Lee Lawrie has been accused of modeling Atlas face after Italian fascist dictator Benito Mussolini, who was in power at the time.

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The same way Atlas defied Zeus in Mythology, the sculpture defies Christianity and even democracy in New York city.

Other Stuff

The Rockefeller Center is full of impressive bas-reliefs, murals and sculptures, with plenty of symbolism and imagery. If you go visit the place, you will probably see many other details I’ve missed (feel free to send them to me). It is  impossible to review in depth everything on display  but I will leave you with some interesting pieces you can investigate yourself.  Notice the Babylonian/Egyptian influence, the omnipresence of the torch of illumination and the occult symbols scattered throughout the site.

Mural representing thought as a godly figure sending its gift to man and the fate of the ignorant:

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Under the wings of the torch of Illumination:

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Columbia holding a cup of Divine knowledge:

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These spiders have appeared in numerous sites across the world. They supposedly represent motherhood. I think they represent the dark forces preying over the masses. Take your pick.
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To Conclude

The collection of artworks on display at the Rockefeller Center communicate a cohesive message that can be deciphered by analyzing the cultural and mystical references behind the symbols. The art program as a whole applauds an emancipation from the inferior god, celebrates the mythological figures who have been defiant of god’s rule and glorifies Man’s quest to achieve godliness. Mankind’s progress in arts and science considered to have been acheived DESPITE God, making the Rockefeller Centre a virtual temple of worship for the Luciferian doctrine.

Luciferianism constitutes the nucleus of the ruling class religion. It accounts for the longevity of many of the oligarch’s plans, i.e. the New World Order. This plan has been discussed for centuries now (documents prove it) and many political decisions are made to lead towards it. Luciferianism provides the world elite the religious legitimacy to carry out plans that would otherwise be morally questionable or simply condemnable. The elite however believe that divine knowledge can only be acquired by deserving people while the rest of the population must stay in a state of mindless stupor. That is probably why the unsuspecting masses come every year to celebrate Christmas in this Luciferian temple without even realizing it. While the Rockefeller Center celebrates man’s triumph over God’s tyranny, it also celebrates the Illuminati’s tyranny over the ignorant man.

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  1. quote :”The story is that God threw Lucifer out of Heaven because Lucifer had started to question God and was spreading dissension among the angels. ”

    This sounds GOOD to me …the Abraham God of the bible is a complete and utter asshole, promoting genocide, and killing millions of people for simply not doing as their told … i’m not taking sides (because they’re both fictional) but if i had to choose …Lucifer is much nicer than “God” …God is a complete power hungry moron!

  2. the more i read on this site the more i’m unsure of your intent ??

    it seams to me that your making a case FOR the nwo … either way idc …but you’ve opened my eyes to a lot of new and interesting information – and for that i thank you very much. Knowledge after all is a good thing …right? but isn’t that a Luciferianism trait ?

  3. Wow. It is so amazing that no matter what your personal intent or motive in having this site is; God, The Great I AM is using you for His glory and for the advancement of his kingdom. One of the best ways to rediscover and re-affirm truth is by hearing a lie; One of the greatest way to appreciate Light(Jesus , who is the light of man); is perhaps a dance with darkness. To all the souls who are buying into Luciferianism because of this site may Gods love and mercy reach you before your time on earth is over; Doubtless every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord! Repent while you still can; for the Kingdom of God is at hand!

  4. Oh! what a knowledge. Keep on publishing we are gaining from this. May the grace of God be upon you as you reveal more of the kingdom of darkness.

  5. This website and your analysis of the various “sinister” buildings around the world are most fascinating. Thank you!

  6. i do not understand the first comment. How can u say that Lucifer is much nicer than God!?! God is a loving God and he does these things so u can learn lessons. Lucifer will make u continue doiong wrongs things but is burn u gon’ burn in hell with him if u dont follow God’s way instead.

  7. isaiah was talking about puting light for darknes an darkness for light isnt it? . this luciferian whatever cant get a clue, poor humans…
    “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

  8. (they call themselves humanists) Why then, are they so intent on getting rid of 80% of humankind. why do they not care in the least about the masses. They induce war, disease, famine, weather patterns, fear, terrorism…all for the sake of a one world government and the mark of the beast.
    REV: 13:16
    This is all out satanism and we are in the hands of the devil himself. Believe nothing they say, believe nothing they promise, for it is only for their own power and everyone else can go to hell. BUT ironically, they are the ones that will burn in hell for eternity.
    Hellaluyah!!!

  9. Why is Light, Wisdom, Knowledge and Truth always considered evil by the likes of the author of this article and others like him? If Light, Wisdom, Knowledge and Truth are of Lucifer, then logic would have it that darkness, stupidity, ignorance and lies are of God. This is what this article is claiming. It would seem that the results of your argument are the exact opposite of what you intend. Any rational human being would welcome the bringer of Light to the darkness and choose Wisdom and Knowledge over ignorance and stupidity, so you are actually helping to promote the very thing who believe to be exposing. I think that the Rockefeller family did a beautiful job with these buildings and the artwork they contain. Are you against art as well????

  10. I see the symbolism shown here as nothing more than a message of intent of those who wield power to do so without the constraints of morality or responsibility to God’s will and message. In other words, we are the Gods and we will be the controllers of our own destiny because it is we who have the knowledge and the power to do so.

  11. Luciferians are full of double speak, they cloth their foul falsehoods in that which seems fair. Is it not possible that the ‘entity’ that the early priests communicated with in the Temple on the Mount – known as Jehovah, was in fact Lucifer, who can assume any guise that suits him; to confound man. Thus is explained the lust for sacrifice, rage at disobayance and desire for the slaughter of innocents. And thus he is laterly used as an argument against the true and Righteous God of Love – as exemplified by Christ on Earth ?
    Do not be confounded by the words of serpents, use your heart and its wisdom to determine Light from False Light and do not contend to debate with Lucifer for only God has the Answer to his false doctrines.

  12. Comment #9, Chris
    I’ve tried to explain the philosophical mindset behind the artworks in an objective matter. If you do not agree with this philosophy, you probably shouldn’t get mad at the person who explained it to you.

  13. For what I know, The God of the bible “Jehovah ” has a problem (many have noticed ) Jealous, cruel, warrior, etc..
    I have come to accept a true God a universal one the one that is ALL THERE IS in other word the energy that keeps the atoms active .It is an harmonic vibration, It is in every thing and in us all
    Quantum physic recognize the existence of other dimensions (invisible to us )we can only see with our eyes 5 % of the light spectrum. This tells us that a”spiritual ” (invisible )life is credible and could well be our true eternal home .
    We are only here in 3D for a short span to experiment all the dilemmas of duality until we realise the value of love and compassion.
    When this happens our density thins out and we become (automatically,no judgment necessary )eligible to rejoin with the spiritual harmonic levels
    These NWO doers are running an illusive staged scenario where Money and fear of debts keeps us busy with an education and social system based on competition/failures ,pride,deceptions, etc.. just creating enough constant fog in a manner that we forget WHY we are really here for.
    All we have to do is concentrate on our objective and avoid at all cost to be their tools as without our participation
    they can not execute their agenda.

  14. ^ I concur.

  15. Is “on earth as it is in heaven” a luciferian statement? You people claim to be Christian and yet you condemn the symbolism of these works of art. “As above, so below” is another way of saying “on earth as it is in heaven”. Order out of chaos. These works of art promote civilisation, culture and knowledge; something that the church has been against for centuries. The church kept knowledge, including the Bible secret and away from the people and instituted a system of tyranny which destroyed the Light of Knowledge. God is the great architect and the great work of the ages is the perfection of man in the image of God and the age of Light. If you are against Light, then you are for darkness. Jesus said that we are the LIGHT of the world. Jesus taught us that the Kingdom of heaven is within us. You people pick and choose the verses that you want and ignore the others. This age is coming to an end whether you like it or not and you can choose to be a part of it or pass away with this age of darkness and chaos.
    Obviously the Rockefeller family would not have invested so much money and effort in making these buildings and this beautiful art work if their intention is the total distruction of the world as you claim. Your argument makes absolutely no sense.
    America was founded on the principles represented by this art work and her destiny is to usher in the new age of Light and human civilisation. Rebellion against tyranny is obedience to God !!
    You people can choose to be lightbearers and help create this great new age or you can remain in darkness and chaos. Lucis means Light in latin, and light can not ever be evil.

  16. ^ Lucifer – the light bearer is the false light.

  17. I’m not sure I agree with the premise but alas, I love this article. Truth amidst lies. It reminds me of knights and knaves. Knights always tell the truth, knaves always lie. You come upon two men and you seek to determine the identity of each. You ask the first and he responds that we are both knaves. A knight could not say such a thing. So the respondant is indeed a knave. Since he’s incapable of telling the truth, the other must be a knight. You may tread among lies and still find the truth within.

    The Conspiratorial

  18. good article, they intend to make all of us slaves

    look at their actions before you thnk they are good, they are anything BUT

  19. What bothers me is that no one talks about, or even offers a vague hint concerning what is obvious to me, namely, patterns. Patterns that are thru out history have shown themselves to be nothing more than what they are….cogent, comprehensive, and logical threads, that if lined up correctly, red goes with red, blue goes with blue, green goes…c’mon people plug in! Whenever has one plus two ever equaled twelve? or twenty one? When? Name one instance in history. Never, thats when. One plus two has always equaled three. It is a mathematical undistortable fact. You take three sticks, and no matter how many times you throw them up in the air, chanting mumbo-jumbo, visualizing the numbers twelve and twenty one with a big smile on your face and an empty wallet, when the sticks fall, there aint gonna be any more than there were when you threw THREE up in the air! So, then. Why oh, why do we so quickly believe a lie when a pretty face tells it? Why are we not asking the obvious question, who made three turn into twenty one, where’s it going to come from, and WHEN DID WE ALLOW OURSELVES TO FALL FOR THIS LINE?

  20. Satans followers have long taken over the church. God said he would allow seducing spirits to take hold and cause all who thought they were doing the right thing to be fooled right up until they die. Greed and lust are the true gods of America and Canada now. Crime and violence and perversion of our social systems has now come to the point of no return. It’s as if we’ve gone back in time during Noah’s day, when people gave into evil and mocked the few who tried to remain true to God. This world is no longer worth saving , and has become so polluted , one can only ask if we’ll make it to the year 2010? When those countries that were once admired can so easily lie and kill without any fear of the court justice, and then have homosexual parties (Iraq) on the land they had slaughterd hundreds of thousands of children. The silence is deafening. And the world, even the Muslims have given in. The devil, we so often hear in the “details”, must now indeed be on top of this earth.

  21. The Truth about us, as we’re Light and Sound (Sun+Earth / Atoms+Electrons = physical matter), is written in The Essene Gospel of Peace.
    It’s time somebody got that. Wars and torture ain’t ‘good’. We’re full of parasites, commonly called ‘satan’ in the old days!
    http://www.essene.com/GospelOfPeace/peace1.html

  22. To Chris ,
    your quote “this age of darkness and chaos.”nothing got to that stage by accident It is the result of policies applied by the powerful . America was designed to be used as the police state it is by it’s creators (Anglo/dutch) empire
    Using their men inside (free masons) their agenda is on the back of the dollar note.. The Pyramid with the eye in the cap stone.At the base of it it says” order out of chaos”. Meaning, we will create chaos to make the NWO acceptable (deception)
    D.Rockefeller is admitting in his memoirs his work toward one world government .He is also supporting the idea of drastic population reduction ,as well as prince Charles. What we have is the crowns of Europe all linked by blood ,this include a good deal of American leaders such as the Bush, Clinton,Kerry, and many more(over 30 previous presidents)in bed with the Rockefeller and Rothschild These super rich control Most of the big corporations an MEDIAS. They use the Masons and Zionist as their delegates. The motto of “mossad” Israel zionist state intelligence is “by way of deception we will make wars”
    Zionists are not Jews, not Semites as they originate from Slavic eastern Europe (converted to Judaism )
    That is an other deception. So when these people claim to bring light you can be sure it means DARK
    They represent 1% of the world yet they own FIFTY per/cent ,Half of the world wealth. No wonder the rest is struggling , and they want all .They move by launching fears one after an other because they know human docile nature . In a state of fear human psyche can be tamed to believe a rain of lies , it is called Problem(fear) reaction, solution . After the initial Problem Say 9/11/2001 the rain of lies from the medias convinced the majority of a presence of Muslim terror coming from Afghanistan .The “solution” to invade was in fact a program in place prior to the attack to install an important pipe line(from the black sea and restart the opium business that the Taliban banned. Now Afghanistan supplies 92% heroin of the world market.
    It is the same for Climate change, Gore(an other kin )has set up himself to profit from the carbon hoax and most likely the planet is cooling and many in poor countries will die (just as expected)

  23. to: lyg June 1st, 2009 9:44 pm :
    good article, they intend to make all of us slaves

    INTEND? you and I already are slaves. there’s NO door out, turn around. see…

  24. The Luciferians have indeed long since taken over the church. Nothing about the Council of Nicea, the Inquisition, the Jesuits (including the ‘Alhumbrados’ or ‘Illumined’ ones) or any of the Church’s exploits in the New World have anything to do with Christ’s teachings. Burning people at the stake and torturing them is as Satanic as it gets. Accumulating wealth pillaged from other nations is also Satanic. So is cutting out the words of the Most High from man so that mankind must dwell in darkness where the ‘church’ is needed to enlighten souls. The books of Enoch and Ezra were cut out of scripture for a reason, and it has nothing to do with mankind’s benefit. These same evil bastards then created other groups like the Bavarian Illuminati in order to have a ‘good cop/bad cop/ dynamic with which to continue leading mankind astray.

    Remember that Sodom is the spiritual Egypt, and that New York, Rome, London and Washington DC all have obelisks showing the triumph of spiritual Egypt in this world. And to those who would defend Rockefeller Center as purely ‘art,’ if Hitler commissioned Frank Lloyd Wright to design his gas chambers would you defend them too? What about the massacres in Rwanda, if they were done with ornamental machetes that are pretty to look at would you say we’re being too hard on the murderers?

  25. Well said Magnus !

  26. you would be wise to read a few books by J Todd Ferrier ; Isaiah, would be the best because it explains the fall of Lucifer and the fall of this world through the works of a higher being who deceived Lucifer and all those benieth him, and it explains the work of the one we know as Jesus the Christ, what he did to save this planet from the evil that over came it. Ferriers other books like the lodgia and life’s mysteries revealed will explain the whole bible thing to you so clearly that you will never need to fear the light or the darkness again. Jesus is not one mans name, it is a name of initiation into the beautiful life and love. Christ means radiant light. many Christ beings came to this planet to aid the young souls here. when the deceiver fooled Lucifer and the planet fell into spiritual darkness they had the choice to leave but they stayed to help us, but sadly they fell, with us under the veil of darkness. but through the work of………………………………. read on. love and peace always mike.

  27. I just want to say THANKS for all of your wonderful insight! This is information that people obviously NEED to know! I read through all of your articles on music videos and I was simply blown away by them! I KNEW s-o-m-e-t-h-i-n-g was not right with Crazy In Love, Umbrella, and particularly Icebox and Disturbia (when I watched and listen to those types of videos and songs, before I was Saved), and now I know exactly what the Holy Spirit was pointing out to me!

    Thank you so much! Continue your research and writing, and please do not ever let the obviously unGodly and in DESPERATE need of Salvation, Deliverance, and Baptism get you discouraged by their sad and ignorant comments. Satan has truly conquered many, but on Judgement Day, they’ll find out the truth.

    God is working through you… I have no doubt of that! You are in my prayers! God Bless!

  28. You people are INSANE! sheesh!

    Get a life and stop looking for evil in the wrong places. Maybe it is in your hearts?

  29. I always thought religions are just instruments of manipulation, i.e., cattlefeed for the herd. However, this one sounds like it has some merit. Where can I find a clear and concise intro to Luciferianism? (Besides wikipedia)

  30. Never mind, found it on google:

    http://www.luciferian.org/

    The first three paragraphs are really striking, at least to me. It describes exactly, and I mean 100%, what I’ve always believed. Funny how I’ve always poured scorn over religion only to find that I’m religious myself!

    Anyway I think it’s better to call it as “Prometheanism” instead of Luciferianism so as not to arouse the ignorant passions of the fairy-tale crowd.

  31. Sorry I spoke too early. That site is really really stingy with information and definitely not what I’m looking for. It’s a join-us-then-we’ll-tell-you kind of deal, i.e., it’s a guanteed rip-off. Plus, after the first three paragraphs it goes all la la on you with crap about magic. So I’m supposed to trade angels, devils and spirits for curses, tarots and astral travel? Yea right.

  32. Great analysis! Rothschild “Red Child” financed Rockefeller “Rock Giant”; Jesus is the Stone they “The Builders” reject. Zeus as god began on Minoan Crete “Cretin” Zeus+Europa=Minotaur as in Golden Bull Altars built first at Beth-el and Dan and now in Wall St. Menes=1st Pharaoh descended from the Bull carried there by the Phoenix Bird (also Eagle) where the Ben-ben Stone caught the 1st rays of the rising Sun at Heliopolis. The UN is just east of there; go see the Golden Globe split open at the seams, the 3 masted Ark (3rd Beast), St George slaying the Dragon and the UN Meditation Room built in the shape of an unfinished pyramid, 11X18X33 with a 13,000lb block of black iron ore for an Altar, Illuminated by a single shaft of light and 11 chairs. As Hitler said “The best place to hide something big is right out in the open”. For something equally strange, ask yourself why the 1st 5 American colonies (Washington DC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, NY, Boston) are perfectly aligned with Troy, Stonehenge and the Pyramid of the Sun at Teotihuacan. Theresnothingnew.org/

  33. First before I say anything, this whole site is a great read. However. I find some hypocrisy in what is being said here.

    It is stated that the NWO is trying to bring on an age of enlightenment and wisdom, which will inevitably lead to the fall of Christianity, where wisdom and enlightenment is considered evil and a tool of the devil. However, the very basis of this article, and the site…is to bring wisdom and enlightenment.

    Alright having said that. I do believe there is a hidden force (Illuminati if you will) that is controlling the global masses and working towards a new world order. And I will stand behind the basic philosophy of what this site is about. My only removal from this ideology is the christian grounds that are being built upon it. This is and always has been my concern with christianity. And that is the inability to distinguish good and evil as those that do good or evil. It seems apparent that Christians apply good and evil to christian/non-christian. Which I just don’t believe is the case.

    There are many “christians” that are the most wickedest of people. Many of those have a roll in this NWO. And there are also many non-christians that are very pure and true.

  34. ^
    I think you misinterpret my point. I dont consider evil what is not Christian, I consider evil what is purposely deceitful. It has nothing to do with religion.

  35. On the above comments, the real issue would be for you to consider this Vigilant; The negative forces represented by the icons, statues, etc. all carry the names and titles of the advisaries of RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. That in itself is as the following; “imagine a game is on Mets V.S. Yankees, you stand before the T.V. shouting “Slaughter Dem’ Yanks” are you not supporting the Mets!” Go deeper if you can and explore and expose the real truths. There are very valid reasons for all of the symbols especial those of the imaginary caracter jesus. The reasons are so Sinister, many have their lives attempting to expose the truths.

    I do appreciate your contributions on the site however,

  36. lol, stupid rockefellers made stupid building

  37. Knowledge is power.. We have defined the enemy, and unless we understand the mystery schools and the their teachings, we’ll still in the dark, bumping into each other and fighting with each other, and bare in mind that unless we have a deep understanding of history-the hidden one, the true one- , we are doomed to defeat because, Those who control the past controls the future, and him who controls the present, controlled the past.
    Unless you have a deep understanding of the enemy, you’ll live and die in the darkness.

  38. Knowledge is power.. We have defined the enemy, and unless we understand the mystery schools and the their teachings, we’ll still in the dark, bumping into each other and fighting with each other, and bare in mind that unless we have a deep understanding of history-the hidden one, the true one- , we are doomed to defeat because, him who control the past controls the future, and him who controls the present, controlled the past.

    You’ll live and die in the darkness.

  39. Well said truthseeker… however, in all my research of this supposed “esoteric” knowledge… I always come across the same thing… Humans trying to find patterns in chaos… Human beings trying to find the ultimate theory to explain the past present and future. Humans trying to find a divine code, or secret to existence…

    The mathematics of the universe are simple… There is no mathematics of the universe. It is completely self-contradictory.

    The space between 1 to 10 is infinity. The space between 1 to 1 million is infinity… That’s the exact same ammount of space. Math and Science is a manmade concept. The moment you find a “truth” and reach a consensus, is the moment something will happen to disprove it.

    No matter how many times you think you’ve found the pattern… The code, there will ALWAYS be an anomaly… There will even be an anomaly in this concept of their ALWAYS being an anomaly.

    There is Duality, and There is Infinity. Duality and Infinity themselves contrast each other.

    The universe is a complete puzzle… Everything exists at one time… If everything exists, there is NO change… If there is no change there is NOTHING.

    Nothing is everything, and Everything is nothing… Try your best to get it right or pay the price of utter confusion.

    The universe is a blank slate of infinite possible. You have the power to create beauty, or darkness.. The choice is yours.

    The power is in your mind, not in the math.

    .nick

  40. I shudder at the thought that the people who answer this article are among the masses with whom I might come into contact, to think that some if not all of you could be working in the real world and making decisions is the scariest sci-fi vision ever imagined.

  41. When Satan tempted Christ in the wilderness isn`t it written that Satan lifted Jesus up onto a high place and said all the kingdoms of the earth I will give to you if you will kneel down and worship me. Christ rebuked the devil but it seems the so called illuminati bent down and kissed his arss. PS shorley The Almighty Creator is the source of all wisdom all freedom all knowledge and happiness. So what benefit is there is rebelling against GOD. It seems to me that Lucifer is the father of the selfish vain power hungry competitive spirit. The kind that starts every war the reason behind supremacists and nazis and the cause of why some men and women are billionaires and yet there are children starving to death. Their mantra is survival of the fittest, and who controls the rules wins. GODS mantra is Life and Life more abundantly for all.

  42. @ none human comment 40 , thank you you have just proven why this site and the people who comment after doing research on these subject matters I being 1 of those proud individuals as i can feel safe in the KNOWLEDGE that with the info i have researched I will benifit my loved 1s and those who are ready to know THE TRUTH , unfortunatly for you you are not ready but this does not mean that WHEN you are ready to stop being absolutly and utterly ignorent WE THE 1S WHO ARE GAINING KNOWLEDGE WILL STILL BE THEIR TO GUIDE YOU 1 STEP CLOSER TO THE TRUTH !
    ( you need to hurry up and snap out of it, for a man or person to go through a whole site or this aricle alone and come up with a moronic comment like that 1 leads me to believe your brain capacity is decreasing , GOD BLESS YOU )

  43. My my, some of the responses are surely confirming the fact that the systems of this world are making some people mindless fools. One thing I know is that the Bible says ‘who has an ear to hear let him hear’. It’s no use fighting a war if you don’t know who the enemy and his accomplice are. Some of the things I’ve learned from reading this site open my eyes to the behavioural patterns of people. I am now conscious of the hand-signs and skull n bones when they show even in ‘America’s Got Talent’ performers. I thank God that I can learn to spot the enemy and not fight beating the air.

    Another thing I know and am very sure about, am that EVERY knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is LORD! Many are confessing on their death beds…they claim there is no God, but let something bad happen to them or their family and you hear them calling upon God. Look at the so-called stars when they are dying the embrace a Bible and call on God.

    God is love and contrary to what some say here, god has given us (even Satan) choice. God had the power to destroy Lucifer the very minute he chooses to rebel, but God allows Lucifer to show his true colours. Think about it, this world is Satan’s playground and Heaven is Gods. Compare the world to heaven and tell me which seems to be the right way? All I know is that with all the evil going on in this world, if given a chance to rewind back to the Garden of Eden and have a say in the choice making I sure will choose Gods way! Who would want to live in a selfish world full of violence and crime? Who would want to live in a world where even the government allows telephone companies to steal our money by implementing these 0870 and 0845 numbers for essential services like electricity, water etc which lets you stay on the phone for over a hour before you get served? That allows Insurance companies to create fine prints and secret clause to avoid paying people who have paid premiums for years when they claim? This world is about stealing, killing, selfishness and the list goes on. So tell me whose system is working better, God or Satan?

    Keep on exposing the Devil and his Imps Vigilant. I am one who is also here to expose the Devil and his Imps.

  44. Why do the nations rage, and the people plot in vain?…

    Woe to them who call evil “good” and good “evil”.

    There is a day comin’…

    Thanks Vigilant, for bringing the darkness into the Light.

    Lucifer’s days are numbered.

  45. It’s really fucked up with what’s going down, I’m just concerned about the pattern of it. A few people understand what’s going on and what the symbols are really illustrating, while the rest are mindless and dumbfounded exactly like beyonce. They are the cattle that refuse to move and use common sense, they let a bunch of people direct them and don’t realize that they don’t NEED TO BE. But what also concerns me is the way it happens, a bunch/certain people learn the truth and the rest refuse the truth. Which immediatelye seperates everyone, you have those in the know, and those that are useless robots.

    Think of it this way, those who refuse to enlighten themselves, OR, those who refuse to become ILLUMINATED, end up as Robots and are commanded to do whatever the ones who ARE illuminated want. Unfortunately it’s a very simple analogy. If the cattle refuse to become human beings and not just follow basic impulses to eat and fart, EAT THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  46. ‘by his inequities we are healed’
    jesus died for us, pride is behind all evil.

    satan is behind all evil.

    if you repent you will inherit paradise, otherwise the one you worship will torture you beyond any form of earthly comprehension

  47. f we look at the unvarying similarity of the most popular theological texts, and their themes, it is clear that they are ‘drafts’ of stories crafted from the same ancient Egyptian origins. This seems logical, since Egyptians were among the most advanced societies in history – would it not make sense for various entities to emulate (copy) the Egyptian theological ‘blueprint’ for society, i.e. the belief systems that kept people in line and allowed for such societal success?

    So as the copiers churned out their ‘drafts’ – many of them, over centuries – Christianity was one and Islam was another. It would make sense that the most successful ones, the ones that really resonated with people, would rise to the top. It worked and these religions became massively popular.

    The Knights Templar / Masons, who worship nature, humanity, and science, were intimately aware of the Egyptian origins of the fraudulent Christianity. Wanting to show their eternal hostility towards Christianity, they not only kept alive the pagan ritual and Egyptian imagery through their works, but also adopted many Luciferian characteristics in both their imagery and philosophy. This had a two-fold reasoning; it gave a theological reference point for their own beliefs in relation to the prevailing Christian wisdom at the time; and it also provided them the usage of Christian imagery and context to promote their own beliefs both overtly (to themselves) and covertly (to Christian, Mormon worshippers).

    I think it is fair to say that, from an evolutionary standpoint, the Masons and current designers of the New World Order are a far preferable group to have “pulling the strings” than any fundamentalist sect, if only because, although just as cold-blooded (in the name of rationality instead of God, i.e. Depopulation agenda), their beliefs and actions arise from logic and reason – the paradox is that they themselves have been blinded by their own perceived rationality. Causing the death of a person who has done you no wrong is fundamentally anti-human. It goes against our greatest instincts. Allowing calculated rationality (which is by it’s very nature – human – biased through some system of thought / perspective) to override the natural, emotional impulses that attempt to forbid us from committing atrocities against each other.. is madness. When we plan wars, impose sanctions, toy with genetic material – it is man playing God. Which is exactly what the Masons celebrate: Man’s own potential for Godliness. Which sounds great, until you realize where it leads in the absence of a strong moral and ethical counterbalance, which are not present in the current economic and political reality.

    In the end, I think it is clear that our current generation has the opportunity to rise above both the ‘draft’ theologies that have kept us ignorant and violent for millennia and the current proto-fascist movement that endeavours to impose global governance by force and deception (and a fraudulent and criminal economic system). Neither of these failed ideologies will lead us to our greatest potential. Only by the pursuit of truth and the recognition of all living systems as divine can we begin to achieve our true potential as both individuals and species.

  48. We were created by a force greater than ourselves, it seems that for the most part we are all in agreement that Sata left/was banished from Hell for questioning God.

    Why then would man put his eggs in thr basket of angel as opposed to the Being who created the heavens as well as the angels.
    God was present before Lucifer…Meaning God has the most wisdom and understanding of the practices of purity & love!

  49. Guy and Magnus. BOTH well said!!! You guys both had GREAT points. Your points of views were WONDERFUL to read, because it re-instilled in me what I BELIEVE!!! KEEP posting comments you guys have GREAT points of views. And to the Vigilant Citizen thank you for your hard work and research, and letting us see the true LIGHT.

  50. I am more than a little concerned about your interpretation of Isaiah 2:4. That scripture is not talking about a New World Order! It is talking about Jesus the Christ, and his church, which would encompass all nations (“the nations will flow unto it”). The scripture in question, when you look at the verses around it, obviously are not talking about anything “sinister”! From verse 3 – “And many peoples will come and say, ‘Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, To the house of the God of Jacob; That He may teach us concerning His ways And that we may walk in His paths.’ For the law will go forth from Zion And the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.” And from verse 5: “Come, house of Jacob, and let us walk in the light of the LORD.” With these two verses being the context of the scripture you seem to have somewhat twisted, I do not believe anyone could get the idea that Isaiah 2 is talking about a sinister New World Order.

    I am also a little concerned about your interpretation of Lucifer. The only biblical reference to Lucifer is in Isaiah 14, and there it is obviously not referring to an angelic being, but to the king of Babylon. This is proven because in verse 3, God tells Isaiah to, “Take up this rhyme against the king of Babylon…” Now, interestingly, if we look in the book of Daniel it tells us of the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar, who sought to set his own throne higher than God’s, even as it states “Lucifer” would do in Isaiah. God judged Nebuchadnezzar, and he spent some time living as a beast of the fields would live – probably a demon possession or some kind of mental problem. Looking at Isaiah again, we see that Lucifer would be brought down, to live as a beast of the fields. Interesting, is it not?

  51. Ah – very nice. I see how it is now. You delete anything that does not agree with you, rather than take it as a suggestion that perhaps you should do a little more study. So much for the Biblical statement about “reasoning together”.

  52. Please disregard the last comment. Something seems to have caused my browser to stop giving me updated views of your page.

  53. See, I am very interested in what you’re talking about here, I personally don’t believe in God or the occult. I consider myself a materialist but what is staggering and terrifying is how connected these people are and the fact that irregardless of whether or not the occult is ‘real’ (and I highly doubt it) there are some deeply powerful people, this elite minority of people who basically control the way the world runs through various means and they believe in this stuff enough that they try to incorporate it into every aspect of life as if when they finally show their true colours we will be more submissive because in our subconscious we already used to these images and symbols.
    It’s really creepy.
    Anyway I just wonder what background you’re coming from because this is very informative and interesting but I feel like there is some sort of religious agenda. If the biggest fight you have against these people is prayer/faith then we’re all in trouble. Are you an activist or interested in politics at all? I agree that educating ourselves is probably the greatest step we can take to defend ourselves against these people but what other things practically would you suggest?

  54. If anything, this article has got me considering the Luciferan belief for the want to belief or on another scale… it has convinced me that there are no higher beings… just nature and science.

  55. Great article, everything makes sense.

    But here’s where I am confused. Lucifer was the one who tempted Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge. Therefore man defies God because of their constant thirst for knowledge. This is the reason why Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden of Eden and the reason why death and why suffering is imminent for humanity.

    So here is my question, isn’t this sudden awareness of illuminati/satanists and the new world order kind of feeding into what God was against. This thirst for new knowledge. I’m not saying that we should remain ignorant because the book of Revelation does state that we need to be aware of our enemy and prepare ourselves for the final days. But I have to question if we are even supposed to know about all of the practices, symbols, and etc of NWO, illuminati/satanists.

    I appreciate this knowledge, trust me I do. It has altered my way of thinking and I’m not as gullible as before, so thank you for making me aware of my surroundings. But I can’t help but wonder, whether or not Ignorance is bliss. And if God really wanted us to know all of this detailed information.

  56. “Isaiah’s cryptic text describes a time where “nobody in Jerusalem shall be ill”, seemingly referring to times where science and technology would be advanced enough to cure man’s sickness. In this context, the “great tribulations” refer to the coming of a New World Order,”

    I don’t understand the jump here with what makes you believe the “great tribulations” mean a time when there is a New World Order, please help me understand what you mean.

  57. Hey, all you people ARGUING!! Have you ever considered the possibility that its all made up and the Gnostic Luciferian vs. Christianity is a FALSE-LEFT RIGHT/HEGELIAN DIALECTIC?? Think about Revelations. The scenario is, evil people create a PROBLEM there is a REACTION in which the SOLUTION is that people bow down to “God/Christ” who is a WORLD LEADER for a NEW KINGDOM. How do you know Jesus “coming back” won’t just be a Vatican operative? How do you know that both sides aren’t really just controlled by one group INCLUDING THE ORIGINAL BIBLE?? Remember that these totalitarian doctrines use the promise of morality and superiority to hook people. This includes both Masons and Gnostic pagan hierarchies AS WELL AS Christianity. And not just “Churchianity”. I mean, idk believe what you want. But to me it seems pretty obvious that both sides are probably BS.

  58. Good insight into the workings of “the cult of Luciferianism,” Vigilant.

    KNOWLEDGE is NOT “the ultimate Good and Goal.” Knowledge tends toward pride and even the ruthless pursuit of knowledge and power. … THE REAL KEY to what is Good and OF GOD is Love. Beneficent, caring, gracious LOVE. – if you have not this [AND DO NOT EXPRESS IT] you are flat-out spiritually dead, … it doesn’t matter how much “knowledge” or “power” or wealth you accumulate and manipulate!

    * Read 1 John 2:6-29; plus: chapters 3 & 4; and the first three chapters of James. – it’s all there, … for “those who have spiritual ears to hear…”

    This much I know also: EVERYONE born into this life is BORN ["sown" "planted"] as either a wheat, … or a tare, … and YOUR CHOICES will prove who you REALLY are.

    I am of Jacob/Israel and Jesus/Yeshua. … who are *you* ?

  59. It seems to me that more people worship the devil than worship God. In fact, devil-worshippers like to think they’re worshipping the “true” God — Satan. Watch any televised sporting event and you’re likely to see fans flashing the satanic hand signal to the camera. They used to flash the peace sign! It’s rampant at rock concerts, too, especially at Green Day shows. I’ve seen pictures of the last three U.S. presidents, Clinton, Obama and Bush, flashing the satanic hand signal, and their wives, too. Michelle Obama flashed it on the cover of Vogue magazine. Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward, who was working for the CIA when he helped to bring Nixon down, made a telling comment in a CBS documentary on Watergate when he said, “God is in the details.” I always thought the expression was, “The devil is in the details.” That shows you just how inverted this world is. That reminds me, The Shins named one of their albums, “Oh, Inverted World.” That pretty well sums it up. The irony is, they’re probably devil-worshippers too, like almost everybody else. I’m glad there are still a few of us out there who don’t want to be gods, we just want to be humans. And we know the difference between Satan and God, which is why, if we worship a God at all, we worship the REAL one, not Satan.

  60. thanks vigilant. i wanted to ask you if u cud analyze the origins of the gay (homosexuals specifically) people in modern (our current) times. genetic engineering? mind control? hormonal drugging? 1 of the ways in which the ‘humanists’ r depopulating the Earth since gay couples can’t have their own children? i think u guys should create a section where we could write about anonymous stuff. God bless you and your team.

  61. Hello,

    Interesting comments, thank you for the post.

    If you may allow me I will give my biblical interpretation handed down through the Holy Spirit and found in the Word. Lucifer (Light-Bringer) was created “chief” or first among the angels. This literally means not just that he was created as the “firstborn” of angels, but that his power was greatest, the glory with which the Father adorned him with was (in comparison) unrivaled in creation. The OT accounts that this chief angel “carried the timbrels” he was a music player. But remember this is before the fall of Man, so why was he playing music?

    –Allow me a slight discourse that will come back to the topic- The Creator, whom I call my Father, has coded all of creation (physicality– atoms, light particles, waves) with an inherent truth in it…that it would come back to the creator in the form of worship. When Jesus was asked to silence the children for calling him the Christ by the Pharisees(truthful worship or exclamation), he made this statement, “…And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.”

    So from the beginning of Creation the Father has been concerned with worship, worship being the most truthful natural position that physicality falls into, ie that it was created. What are angels for? The word says they are “ministers of fire” going about fulfilling the will of the Father.

    If you have seen anyone lead worship, they are in the “front” — most would assume that the worship does not go to the musicians (not true in contemporary modern settings with rock gods and american idols) but to another motif. According to the Word, Lucifer lead all of creation into worship to the Creator, it was through the MISAPPROPRIATION that the madness began. This is the Lie, this is why he is called the Father of Lies, because he believed that because the creator took a part of himself and put it into creation, that the aspects of creation could ‘evolve’ beyond or up to godhood (creation power)using this inherent code.

    Do not be confused or deceived, for Satan comes most often as Paul described, as an “angel of light” — you will see this over and over in the accounts of all major religions, including various sects and off shoots. What is the main difference? Do not look at the world for answers, and do not get so upset that Jesus is the only way, when you see that all of creation was created through the Spoken Word, ie Jesus Christ, you know that’s the only way it can be redeemed. The differences are simply Creator, Created– and Worship is the distinction, the admittance of Truth. “Those who worship the Father must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth”, says the Lord Jesus.

    Jesus is love. If you are involved in activities that go against love, that promote self interest over LOVE, then you are deceived. And in John D. R’s case tuff love = reducing population through wars and poverty = not the Father’s love. I love you all, thanks~

  62. “For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

    -2 Cor. 11:13-15
    Literally, an angel of LIGHT! Lightbearer my a$$!!

  63. Greek mythology is not luciferian. It s 100% pure and wise. Obviously Christians borrowed myths as u say but u don t have to go to extremes and condemn everything that is different as satanic or whatever.. Spirituality is very different from organized religion which is for the sheep

  64. wait, William Blake is now an “obscure English author”?? What happened to “Tiger, tiger, burning bright”?

    VC, I’m not that old. And Prometheus has been celebrated by weirdos like Blake and cooky intellectuals all the way back to Rousseau’s day and beyond. The stuff about the VMA’s and Jay z was interesting. This makes me question your sense of the sinister. Not the the Rockefellers aren’t.

  65. In one action Lucifer killed all humans by tempting Adam and Eve and causing them to become mortal made them even LESS God-like than they were before consuming the Fruit, I don’t think he was trying to help.

  66. Very, very very interesting…

    So, if the Illuminati are seeking to become gods themselves (and in some ways have arguably attained such status)… Is it only a matter of time before someone steals their fire and gives it to the “stupid” masses? That’s what we need to be working towards.

    I do agree in the Luciferian philosophy that mankind is destined to be as gods, as well as the new age principle that God is not without, but within every man woman and child in the world… Man-kind’s destiny to be as gods should include all of humanity, not an elite ruling class.

  67. wao i’ve read your article about lucifer but i have a little question i have a friend who has born with the cris (la croix) in his left foot a that make me wondring if he’s satan or lucifer’s child???

  68. If I may say something:

    Vigilant, I already have contributed in some comments on Lady Gaga Il. Puppet 2 article, I can say you are doing a great work now that I see more of your writings.

    While I have different points of view in some things I think you are doing much good unveiling the things you expose here to others.

    To everyone:

    While I study many religions and sciences, I am catholic AND I am well aware of the negative critiques to my religion; I also criticize the members not only of my religious institution but from all organizations that are not behaving as they intend to make believe. I speak as a catholic before all, so please spare me the attacks on my comments based on this.

    That being said…

    #To all saying that NWO investigators are more often than not christian racists, that ancient pagan teachings are not to be mistaken as evil:

    Race is of the least important things concerning ancient teachings. Racial traits are easily modifiable over the years. Racial traits obey to natural adaptations, and within a couple of thousands of years can be lost. Kemetic people were not black of origin entirely, Nubians were the first people to populate the Nile before the kemetic race; as it has been mentioned before, they were in turn replaced by jewish descendents, and later replaced also by greek and roman populace. Pyramids in Egypt according to recent investigations predate even nubians, going as far as 15k years BC. The sphynx may be older than the pyramids and not the other way around as it has been made believe over the years in the 20th century.

    Human cities can be found in archaeological sites of 12k years BC or even more, Kemetic were but the most recent legacy of what ancient cultures had to offer. Other fact to consider when talking about the difference of circumstances of race is to consider the alignment of earth when the pyramids were built, it was another climate entirely, so chances are that kemetic people were not all that black but more in the bronze color area, much like aztecs. Babylon was recent also when comparing it to other cities. The original Jericho can be traced as far as 13k BC, which means that egyptian culture has at least 4k years of disadvantage in this area.

    Have you noted the similarities and parallels between the religions existing in the Celt culture, the norse culture, the proto-chinese culture, the iranian culture, the kemetic/egyptian culture? Those are not coincidental, many roots can be took as common when you study deep enough. Even when talking about races; Hitler FOUND (not allegedly, but with certainty) that pure german people had their most ancient genetic roots in himalayan people. Himalayan people in turn can be traced also to the protoiranian genotype, which means they have a racial ancestor with chinese folks and with egyptians AND nubians.

    To reduce this to a racial matter is to reduce it drastically. This is a matter of history, science, religion and fundamentally, good and bad.

    #To all people saying that pagan beliefs are not to be confused with luciferianism:

    When I was referring to parallelism and this being intended, the most ancient myth we have available (I have the idea that there has to be an even more ancient record but is not made available to public) is the one from Sumer.

    Almost all religions including egyptian, greek and norse stem from this one and to claim they don’t is not to study pagan religions’ common doctrines, holidays and roles of deities. Central point: There is a creator, there are sons of this creator, the creator for whatever reason leaves the job of taking care of the humans and educating them to the sons, in some it is added the covering of the world by a veil, or the diminution from it to another inferior reality by the creator.

    When you examine, well better said, reexamine the sumer myth through the lens of the bible/yahwist religions, we can see that angels took care of humans (Enoch), but later became vain and lustful, and started believing themselves to be gods and lusting after human women and interbreeding with them -Zeus’ ans Poseidon’s sexual escapades anyone?- ; This caused the fall of them to be considered demons.

    It somewhat adds up to consider pagan religions to be demonic when regarded after this story. Take the Hindu myth for instance; Comparing it Brahman created the world, and had the trimurti (Brahma, Shiva, Vishnu) afterward. He didn’t care for/like his creation so he covered it in the veil of Maya or illusion.

    Compare it; God created the universe, created his angels and then us, Lucifer comes and stirs up the rebellion and the fall of humankind; it all sinks into the plane of reality that is matter, it very well could be a case of rhetoric retelling.

    While this is not the whole Truth, I think that when approached by yahwist beliefs, it can be as exposed.

    #As to all saying that How can light, wisdom, knowledge and truth can be considered evil; They can.

    Opposed to logic, in rhetoric discourses with enough rationalization can make one viewpoint to appear as valid when logically it is not. The same holds true with these elements. Light is not referred to as good always. Light is just light, it does not hold any special significance to good, Good can be found both in darkness and in light.

    As stated here and in other articles/books elsewhere Lucifer is depicted to be an angel of light “The” angel of light. When talking about the tale of his fall, people usually translates this to the fact that Lucifer lost all of his gifts and qualities, WRONG! One of the principles of God (the primordial thought that thinks himself and everything else) is that God never changes, another is that God never goes against Himself.

    It may seem out of context but, when these principles are put together we can conclude that gifts, powers, dignities, qualities and charismas given by God can’t be taken away by ANYONE. This means that even when Lucifer acquired a wretched state for his transgression, he still is able to take on his original form of the angel of light. He still is wise, he still is a master of music and so forth; the difference is that those gifts and qualities were perverted, wicked and ultimately corrupted.

    The elements of light, wisdom, knowledge and truth when applied to a luciferian point of view are corrupted; as explained in the article by Vigilant, Good is portrayed as evil and viceversa. Good in good, no matter the time or place when talking about values and ethics. Evil follows the same principle, it cannot be suddenly good. Confusion comes when one tries to equate light with good.

    The concepts of Wisdom, Knowledge and Truth suffer also when passed through the lenses of rhetoric. for truthseekers I submit this difference for your consideration:

    Wisdom and knowledge are usually misunderstood, Wisdom is the proper understanding of the workings of the universe and what is right and wrong, Divine Wisdom is permanent as eternity has no changes on values, earthly wisdom however is that which is limited to the viewpoints of human environments, such as cultural mindsets and sociopolitical times.

    Knowledge is the amount of information someone has on something. Divine Knowledge is complete, wholesome, earthly knowledge is biased through the limitations of men when perceiving it, depending on his level of education, place, sensory limitation and limited span of time to know something. Theory of knowledge should explain this sufficiently.

    Truth has a similar problem when in these wordings. The Divine Truth is one, perfect, unmovable and permanent. Earhtly truth is biased, because knowledge cannnot be complete through human perception.

    As an exception, in Christianity we believe God’s information to be accurate on account of revelation. I know, Divine revelation doesn’t have proof, still we believe. I have no means to prove the claim of God as a personal entity, nor of any spiritual entity for that matter, but I do believe these to exist, I am clinically sane and healthy and yet I have seen things that “should not exist” as demons and spiritual entities.

    I am not the only one, in my country and many others, there are accounts of physical encounters with otherworldly beings, supernatural in many cases harmful. There are legends yes, but I have heard testimonies of direct encounters and even witnessed some. You can say that it doesn’t exist, be my guest, just don’t pee yourself the day you get to see a demon firsthand.

  69. @saltedearth:

    I would like to see what you have to say when you read the complete works of Sir William Blake; One of his most famous quotes is “The path of excess leads to the tower of wisdom”, there are many readings from him which hint his passion for the occult.

  70. u guys need to study islam

  71. though it help know the truth most of the pple dis agree may the lord almighty,who did die 4 thy sin protect you against all evil,may the blood of jesus son of Jehovah be a sword to thy evil…………\\|||.,/;][‘qh

  72. People should know that Lucifer and Satan are two different people. You know that, right? Lucifer = Venus, Satan = Saturn. The modern bible is translated completely wrong and is one great big metaphor.

  73. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT READ IT!!
    It’s the truth take it or leave it.

  74. I would like to underline something very, very, very important. Something omited by both Author and many others: Prometheus have carried his stolen sparkle/fire HIDDEN, within a piece of bark, not well demonstrated (in a form of a torch)!
    Any depiction of a person/deity, carrying a torch is a depiction of a Lucifer, the light-bringer. Not Prometheus.

    Greetings,
    Prometheus

  75. the thing is that jehova was not God, and he is no longer responsible of our universe because of the way he behave to everyone and lucifer,.. now mikael (jesus) is ruling and even though lucifer has accepeted him cause micael is good.. he is still in a rebellion and doesnt want to accept Love… micael is working hard for things to change.. thats why he came to our planet because even though we are not conciuos about it.. we are fighting for love too, to help draconians, fallen angels, satan, lucifer etc to get back their spirituality.. GOD=LOVE… and probably Jehova has learnt his lesson

  76. ” THE BLOOD OF JESUS”

  77. I have always been in awe of the art deco period and basic structure of Rockefeller Center since childhood. Yes it was, is and always will be a magical place for some of us. My grandmother told me when I was a child that it was Lucifer who created each and every flower and tree for the Yule/Christmas season. Unfortunately everything is poisonous it wouldn’t be Christmas without them. I do know this. No parent likes the idea of someone other than themselves ruling over their kingdom. Least we forget that God created him before all things. His first. I don’t think a merciful God would resort to threats and terror. I wouldn’t want to worship a tyrant. God is good and would never turn his back on anything he loved. Jesus is the light of the world, Lucifer is the light bearer. He makes the way for the savior’s return.

  78. I live life stranglin’ death
    I walk through the land where the fallen angel is kept
    But I would never bow down to a pagan habit,
    Like roman god’s that were faggots named after the planets
    The connotations of revelations taken for granted
    Mark of the beast, the government microchips implanted
    I’ll be branded a manic for speakin’ the truth
    And I’ll be murdered as soon as I hit the streets with the proof
    Illuminati trying to raise the devil at any cost
    They probably cloned Jesus with the blood off of the cross
    And I know it’s the same motherfuckers I see,
    That genetically engineered HIV
    Controlling the population according to mathematics
    Generated by Masons and the military industry sponsorin’ terror
    Creatin’ a profit margin that’ll last forever
    The Crusades and Vietnam stand blasted together
    And you believe in “whatever”
    Even the federal promise,
    But the spawn of Satan can never be honest
    The poor people pay homage
    And pray to a god that the Vatican themselves don’t really even believe in
    Cause they would rather worship money and the physical demons
    Without biblical reason
    I execute them for treason
    I don’t need an alibi
    ‘Cause my place in history is the book of Malika

  79. Listen, RELIGION is responsible for multiple wars. This “god” told the pope to go into the middle east for people who had thier own version of “god”. It was under the order of this “god” the Ferdinand and Isabella allowed the destruction of the natives in the “new” world (at that time). Lucifer never existed, nor did this god. Zeus is the same thing with a different name…Honestly, Religion was the original system of control. Why do the people who think humanist make the most money? Because they are not afraid of reading into all philosophies from all religions and taking what they find to be of value and living in that way.

    Wake UP! Dumbasses…there is not a man in the sky with a non existent heaven where people with no pulse magically go to.

  80. this was really interesting, I love your insights. and I remember those giant spiders! They have one in front of the Ottawa art gallery and I took pictures with it…super weird that they’re all over the world!

  81. You can give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day or teach him how to fish and he’ll eat for a life time. Seems to me that is what’s going on, I could be given all the knowledge ala given fire and have learnt nothing or learn from experience as is the way with God.

  82. ‘These spiders have appeared in numerous sites across the world. They supposedly represent motherhood. I think they represent the dark forces preying over the masses. Take your pick. ‘

    For people who wonder where do these sculptures come from. They are from Louise Bourgeois, a french artist who moves to NY in the 30s. I personally think these are personal work arts and carry no agenda. I’ve seen an exhibition of her work in London few years ago. Vigilant, u are looking to far on this one.

    Louise Bourgeois is best known for her Cells, Spiders, and various drawings, books and sculptures. Her works are sometimes abstract and she speaks of them in symbolic terms with the main focus being “relationships” – considering an entity in relation to its surroundings. Louise Bourgeois finds inspiration for her works from her childhood: her adulterous father, who had an affair with her governess (who resided in the home), and her mother, who refused to acknowledge it. She claims that she has been the “striking-image” of her father since birth. Bourgeois conveys feelings of anger, betrayal and jealousy, but with playfulness. In her sculpture, she has worked in many different mediums, including rubber, wood, stone, metal, and appropriately for someone who came from a family of tapestry makers, fabric. Her pieces consist of erotic and sexual images and also forms found in nature, such as her sculpture, Cumuls (referring to clouds in the sky) and Nature Study. Although she has worked with spider imagery since the 1940s, perhaps her most famous works are the spider sculptures from 1994 to 2003. This includes her famous sculpture, Maman.

  83. Wow! Thank God for you for helping us see these signs we are bombarded with each day, I myself am a Christian, but I do think that a world order would be great. I don’t think that thats a bad thing.

  84. ..was just watching M.A.S.H..they stole franks weapon as a joke..he asked where was it..they said they beat it into plowshares..never heard of the term till I came here like a few days ago..interesting site.

  85. Vigilant, I continue to read your site with great interest.

    You’ve quoted Manly P. Hall in some of your articles, which actually led me to buy his Secret Teachings of All Ages tome, and in my thinking out loud, I’ll quote him now — “The Mysteries claimed to be the guardians of a transcendental knowledge so profound as to be incomprehensible save to the most exalted intellect and so potent as to be revealed with safety only to those in whom personal ambition was dead and who had consecrated their lives to the unselfish service of humanity.”

    I don’t think the Rockefellers and their ilk qualify as people “in whom personal ambition is dead.”

    Let me digress for just a moment … When I first read the Nag Hamadi with its stories of the Demiurge and the Archons several years ago, the world made a lot more sense to me within the context of these ideas. I think the God of the Old Testament (who I tend to think of as the Demiurge) is mean, jealous, vengeful, full of wrath, etc., and has a vested interest in keeping us all in the dark. Have always had a hard time thinking of pissed off Jehovah in terms of the Sunday School lessons about how “God is love”. I grew up in an evangelical church, and was told repeatedly as a girl not to trust my own instincts, think too much, or ask questions that might rock the boat, which, of course, I did. ;-) They would have preferred me as a barefoot and pregnant bible recitin’ sheeple, I’m pretty certain. I escaped by the skin of my teeth.

    I’ve been trying to get my head around this concept for a while, but I think these NWO types have hijacked the Mysteries somehow and are relying on the ignorance of most people to help them succeed, and they flaunt their misuse of the esoteric wisdom right in front of us, but most of us can’t or won’t see it because we’re blinded by the 3 Abrahamic religious faiths most of us grew up in, which also works in their favor. They seem like the Archons themselves to me at times, just helping the blind Demiurge out with his plan to keep us all stupid, although I hesitate to go to that real literal line of thinking lest I become some kind of gnostic fundamentalist myself.

    So this jumps out at me from my reading of Manly P. Hall thus far — “An ancient philosopher once said: ‘He who has not even a knowledge of common things is a brute among men. He who has an accurate knowledge of human concerns alone is a man among brutes. But he who knows all that can be known by intellectual energy, is a God among men.’”

    Well, I don’t think I’m a god, by any stretch of the imagination, but in my thinking, a spark of the divine is in each and every man, woman and child. This may sound harsh, but the world is unfortunately full of useful “brutes” in whom the desire to know has just been snuffed out through religious indoctrination, poor education, bad food, pop culture, etc., although I know the ember of that spark burns in each and every one of them, it’s just a matter of remembering. Would love to see each and every one claim their true heritage like the prince and the pearl, but we all have our own paths, and I’m not responsible for anyone else’s but my own. Which is pretty liberating in and of itself, when I think of the long trek from evangelical fundie to where I am now. ;-)

  86. so far i have failed to find the portion of luciferianism that’s claimed to turn the unintelligent into slaves…could someone point me in the right direction? thanks

  87. Sorry: Lucifer the christian Prometheus…the fables wrote in the bible are the younguest mith of all…so it is an hybrid of many precedent mitologies…

  88. Dear All,
    Fact: All Religions are a construct of mans understanding of himself in relation to his surroundings.

  89. Fact: Symbology has been used throughout history to represent such understandings.

  90. Fact: Symbolism has been used throughout history to represent such understandings.

  91. i have no intention of being disrespectful , in the Atlas part. Atlas is punished by Zeus because he sided the Titans in the war against the Olympians , after the war the other Titans was casted to Tartarus. Zeus condemned him to hold up the sky to prevent Gaia and Ouranos to meet again . he did not scarfice himself for humanity. not discriminating you or anything.

  92. Love this site for what it is but anyone who reads anything anywhere must diligently seek their own scholarly sources for information and form their own opinions. Nevertheless, another fun article about symbols and “good” and “evil” , the religious part of it certainly based on St. Paul’s invention of Christianity. I have never assumed the Bible, revised and re-written countless times, is true or inspired by a sky god. It could be but it is highly unlikely since it is so full of misinformation and flawed logic no truly omniscient god could have inspired it. If an all knowing all powerful god had really wanted to reveal the “truth” to us he would have delivered a divine “handbook” so perfect it would have instantly illuminated any mind that read it.

  93. Yeah Prometheus was punished for giving man knowledge – by teaching him fire..
    but do you guys know that when Zeus (God) was going to give Pandoras Box to Prometheus’ brother, Prometheus warned him not to take any gifts from Zeus.. so Zeus attached Pandora (a woman) to the gift and had her carry the box, and Prometheus’ brother couldnt turn down the beautiful woman so he took it.
    THEN PANDORA OPENED THE BOX.

    hmmmm….. so what does THAT tell you?

  94. I don’t have enough research done to really know what I’m talking about but from this article alone Lucifer sounds completely right. Why the hell would you want to worship someone who’s going to put almost everyone on earth in utter torment for eternity, for absolutely no reason? It sounds like God is the nagging wife and Lucifer is the husband who just wants to go for a fucking drive.

  95. ” If an all knowing all powerful god had really wanted to reveal the “truth” to us he would have delivered a divine “handbook” so perfect it would have instantly illuminated any mind that read it.”

    @Carax: THANK YOU! Exactly.

    @ amanda: that makes it sound like the woman was the ‘patsy’ because we’ve been blamed for it all this time!

  96. Ooh! I thought that connection between Greek Mythology and Christian Mythology is quite interesting! I never noticed those similarities…

    ~|K|~

  97. This is all Bull. You have nothing better to do than to make up stories about artwork.Why can’t artwork just be artwork, just for the beauty it brings to the world.

  98. Hmm… although this article is quite old now and I am a little late to the party as it were I feel compelled to comment on a few things:

    1) A lot of commentators on here seem to be a bit confused as to the meanings and origins of certain religious statements and ideas, one example in the comments above is speaking of the relationship between ‘as on Earth, so in Heaven’ and ‘As above, so below’, yep the first is a biblical quote(-ish) but the meaning is originally Pagan with the ideas of the Microcosm and the Macrocosm and forms an important part of the fundamental beliefs in Wicca and Norse.

    2) Although the subjugation of the masses by the elite under the guise of NWO is a very bad thing, I must admit that I can see exactly how the organised Christianity of the last 2000yrs is exactly what Luciferian beliefs rail against- promotion of ignorance (the church has tried to suppress all sciences at one point or another and flatly denies the blatant existence of Evolution even now), the denial that each of us is responsible for our own choices and spiritual development (Christianity is deterministic and promotes the idea that if you place your faith in the church it doesn’t matter what you do in life all will be forgiven) and so on.

    3)Whilst the ideals of Luciferianism seem to promote the personal quest for knowledge and the idea that we can be much more than we are, the agenda of the NWO does echo the agenda of the Church – they only want the quest for knowledge to be open to the elite, the rest of the cattle can go swing – subjugation and enslavement for all.

    4) I was introduced to an idea that I found very interesting and can see the basis of: There are TWO gods in the bible (especially the Old Testament), Jehovah and Yahweh. Read the testaments again – where there is a wrathful god that demand obedience, punishes free-thinking and generally goes around ruining peoples shit this is referred to as Jehovah but when the god is being, well, nice it is referred to as Yahweh. This is especially true in older texts that are closer to the original Hebrew documents rather than the newer ones that have been edited and twisted by various Christian cults.

    5) I am an avid reader of this site since discovering it a few weeks ago and I must say I have difficulty in assessing where you sit in all this Vigilant. Are you a kowtowing Christian? I doubt it as you promote free thought, are you a supporter of Luciferian ideals? again, I doubt it as you (quite rightly) criticize the NWO game plan. I could list more questions as to your motivations but suffice as to say I support your work, like your style but… not sure.. there is a ‘but’ though…

    Ultimately I think that organised religion in ALL its forms is an evil thing as they center around power and control, to place ones faith in an institution without question is the ultimate stupidity.

    Maybe someone will read this, maybe even Vigilant yourself but even if this is too far down the list and too late I had to say something.

  99. Echognome i think you are right but as to where the vigilant citizen stands i think for the expansion of knowledge not just himself but for that of others. i respect his opinions and wish i could have a talk with him but it seems that i too am alittle late. i am no christian but by no means luciferian either. i believe in enlightenment that everyone should search themselves to find it but people do what they do and cannot be changed but there are people looking for answers and truths and there thirst for knowledge cannot be quenched by a phrase “just have faith” we were founded on the pursuit of happiness but whose happiness? now we are figuring it out some of us knew all along. as for the study of luciferianism i have not put much thought into it if what you said is true then our country is dictated by a group of luciferians not necessarily bad i dont think if searching for truth like you said and always pursuing to understand more is not bad, but just like anyone else if you have something thats worth anything your going to keep it to yourselves you dont want anyone else to see it for fear that it wont be worth as much, human desire. but the teachings should also tell you not to pursue earthly desire for it corrupts the heart and intentions. we dont know exactly were these people stand we can only speculate and convers over these thoughts. but just like heaven or hell we wont know until the end. lol what i can speculate is on an economical level. if a population of a people is growing far faster then the food/resources supplying these people then the only logical thing to do is eliminate the growth (kill every first born, no women born if so killed or even males its happened in history it sounds illogical until it happens to you… it is called crowd control but what these people are talking about is on a global level genicide of the human race think what you want you see everything everyone else does kill the earth or continue the cycle of life. a group of fanatics only one solution to one problem. and sorry my comments so long

  100. hell’s gonna be an awfully crowded place, no wonder the rockefellers are doing what they can to get VIP

  101. I think you’ve unintentionally created some very cogent arguments for satanism xD

  102. skulptura shume te dobta! turp!
    DUX ka qene njeri inteligjent e ju n’amerike nuk i shkoni as te maja e gishtit te vogel!
    viva Duce!

  103. Well I just typed a long ass fuckin reply here only for the page to be deleted, so here goes again.

    Luciferians claim that the God of the bible is a cruel and merciless tyrant who hordes knowledge and power while claiming that Lucifer is the “bringer of light”. YET these same luciferians horde knowledge and power all to themselves in an effort to rule the world. Does nobody see the hypocrisy in this? I believe the bible is a perversion of truth in order to suit the agenda of the Luciferians by depicting the true God of the true Light as malevolent while falsely claiming that Lucifer is the “good god”. If this was the case, wouldn’t these Luciferians be more open about their plans for the world? Wouldn’t they want to display to the world their unbending benevolence? Why the tight-knit secrecy? Why all the suffering and warfare in this world? Why all the poverty and misery? Oh, and why the blood ritual sacrifice against unwilling innocents including small children? Would a merciful bearer of light approve of this pathetic and demonic practice? For me that’s the ultimate litmus test. The true God of the true Light unquestionably opposes blood ritual sacrifice and would NEVER require it for any reason at all, ever. I have an intuitive feeling that the “false light” which the Dark ones mask themselves with is (or represents) the stolen energy of those murdered in their bloody sacrifices. Perhaps this is the stolen energy that enables demons of Darkness to take on images of light in order to fool the naive and ignorant. Oh and as for the ignorant of this world, any God of love and compassion would want to RELIEVE these people of their ignorance rather than exacerbate it which is what the Dark ones have done and are doing. The true God of Light DOES want humanity to acquire divine knowledge and wisdom, but only when done responsibly and selflessly without an ulterior motive. It has to be earned rather than stolen. It’s the Luciferians who want to horde knowledge and power via theft, not the true God.

  104. LET GOD’S WORD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR.

  105. I don’t think the point of this article is to argue about Prometheus/Lucifer against Zeus/God and the ideas of Satan etc. Whether you agree or disagree with prometheus/lucifer, the point is that those who call themselves the illuminati don’t really agree, they just pretend to. In the end, they want to be the gods of the world, even if in secret. They want to be like God.

    I noticed at least one fasci symbol in the pictures above. Those who created this place don’t hope for the enlightenment of all people, only for complete control of all the people. They believe they are better, they are enlightened, and they wish to keep us in the dark. This is the very nature of evil, no matter what you call yourself. They aren’t REALLY enlightened, or illuminated, or anything, just the opposite in fact.

  106. Ha! It’s funny that Satan has taken everything that God created and twisted it and perverted it to make people think that he is greater and smarter than God. God gave all of us, the Angels, and yes even Satan himself, free will to choose what we will do. Lucifer CHOSE to defy God, just like WE as people make a CHOICE to defy God and what we KNOW is right. Nobody wants to be accountable for what WE CHOOSE to do and people balme it on God. God created us to be like Him. Did you ever notice that you have whatever you say? God gave US power and dominion over the earth but we silly humans give our power away to the devil and allow his foolishness to take away what is rightfully ours. Satan is the Father of lies (John 8:44) and comes only to kill, steal and destroy (John 10:10). But God gave us the choice to choose life or death (Deuteronomy 30:19-20). God gives us a way out of sin (1 Corinthians 10:13) and paid the atonement for our sins through sending His son Jesus. A man who knew no sin LOVED us that much that He died to save us from our sins…Satan didn’t do that for us. He always shows you how to get into something but never shows you a way out. In the end you end up miserable, destraught, lacking, confused, hurt, depressed, suicidal, empty, restless, uneasy, angry, cold hearted, alone, condemned….But God wants you to prosper and to be in good health. He promises blessings and He never goes back on His Word…..Don’t you think it strange that it’s easier to sin but it costs you so much heartache and pain and loss? It’s harder to live right and live for God but He ALWAYS rewards you for doing right and you get so much peace. If you are reading this, GOD, the GREAT I AM THAT I AM, says “I love you and am not willing that any (YOU) should perish but that you have life everlasting. Seek me for your own self. Find out about Me through the Bible. Test me, Try me, and I will show you who I really am and you will see truth for yourself that I will reveal to you.”

  107. Now tell me this….God has already created us in His image to be LIKE Him, NOT TO BE HIM….So why would one try to make themselves a god? All throughout the first two chapters of Genesis God said “Let there be” and it was so, and so we are. You’re life is a direct reflectioin of whatever you say it is or whatever YOU ALLOW other people to say it is:

    26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [b] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

    27 So God created man in his own image,
    in the image of God he created him;
    male and female he created them.

    28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

    29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

    Jeremiah 29:11-14 states- 11 For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. 12 Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. 13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. 14 I will be found by you,” declares the LORD, “and will bring you back from captivity.

  108. Firing up a giant lighted tree at the winter solstice is a very pagan act, so maybe it’s not so out of place at Rock Center? ;)

  109. Applaud do I for the knee-jerk reflexed LACKEYS – both claiming their polar views without realizing they are simply different sides to the same coin.

    If anything one should glean from this account is to assess information, research it further, and come to a tentative personal belief. Then, to continue this process indefinitely while thinking CRITICALLY. For, those that foolishly believe they know, are those doomed to/by ignorance.

  110. Those intellectual do not believe in god but the devil just the same

  111. God made lucifer… Give him some credit I trust he knows what he’s doing

  112. as i have understand in the scripture Lucifer has not yet been punished unlike to Prometheus that has been suffered from the wrath of Zeus.One reason is different kind of killing activities,and many more it seems to be Satan is doing his evil plan for challenge GOD.because he want to be equal with god he want that many people will follow him

  113. I believe it all…well for the most part..lol!!

    Anyhoo….we can all sit here and debate back and forth about what is Truth, but honestly its all about what you choose to believe. I am a christian and I will yell it from the rooftops.. I believe that Jesus Christ is my Lord and personal saviour. I believe that he died so that I may have everlasting life. I believe in the Father (God), The Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit (self-explanatory). With that being said, that is MY belief…and I don’t care if all of the x’s and o’s don’t line up to other people, it makes perfect sense to me. The only thing that I can do is tell others how good HE is to me and the things that HE has done in my life.

    I appreciate this site because it doesn’t glorify another religion by downing another. Vigilant simply exposes the hidden and I appreciate that. Another confirmation for me is that all that Vigilant speaks of is IN THE BIBLE. I ask those that doubt..to call on the Holy Spirit (The Counselor, Teacher..) to reveal it to you in the pages of the bible.

    Don’t be deceived people…God is real.

    Satan/Devil/Lucifer is real as well. The “enemy” is all about….stealing, killing and destroying and not always in the natural sense, but spiritually as well.

    Open your hearts and let God in….you’d be amazed at what can be done through Faith!

    Keep up the great work Vigilant…keep exposing the wicked!

    Peace & Love….

  114. licifer does embody the false light. so you pro illuminists and againist God and laud him for being a tyrant and vengeful God. that sweet lie that satan resigned from heaven. to hide his shame. and this knuckle brains here are sold to JEHVH is the evil one. think about this ?…you may doubt it but satan must show his true colors he was against order he was selfish-ambition without infinite knowlede.
    for all you bent on hail satan/the light bringer this is what qualities light represents:
    1.Selfish ambition
    2.slander
    3.Rebellion( which is cool when one is young against parents, regret later)
    4.violence
    5.hypocrisy
    6. Envy( satan wants nobody to go to paradise where he was kicked out)
    SEE all this qualities are hated by man and God, no one wants a friend who slanders you falsely or who sabotages(selfish ambition) your Job so he can get your promotion. do this all qualities not fly against divine teachings. Yawheh is Good. man wants Good.

  115. HOW sweet is it for shepple to hear this: SATAN RESIGNED FROM HEAVEN Im rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

  116. luciferians will most likely burn in hell and get tortured in their grave. there is a reason for it. these guys are scheming evil things in secret. it’s a multigenerational plan to take over the world. they are close to eliminating the main competing power (but with God’s help hopefully that will not happen). once they severely compromise it the anti-christ will appear and govern from a new temple in jerusalem. except unlike the previous temples this will be an occult temple. he will have one eye. you guys should look into islam, forget the garbage illuminati-controlled mainstream media tell you about it, seriously this stuff is in prophecies in islam. in christianity as well, but islam is the only religion to explicitly specify that the anti-christ will have one eye.

  117. *forget what the ..

  118. I’m a bit confused. Luciferan want to enlighten the masses with knowledge and wisdom, and this is bad, controlling and cruel? and, from what I am reading, Luciferans see the church as having a cruel God and the mases who follow this God are clueless and ignorant. Luciferans want to open our eyes and at the same time control us with all this symbolism? I am getting confused even trying to write what I want to say. I am going to read it again, but I’m sure I won’t have it clear.

  119. Common guys. The idea that almost everyone is going to hell ,ala original sin, is a luciferian lie. Luciferianism is actually incredibly similar to true Christianity. The big difference being, that the Luciferians will sacrifice you like cattle if you dont follow along, whereas the Christian will help you if you come to him for knowledge and understanding. Additionally, their enlightenment consists of becoming an egoist and learning how to control others, whereas Christianity tries to persuade with reason and example only. Sure you can point to the mindless idiocy of Christians, but all that shows is that they have been subverted and have actually become like those they are ostensibly opposed to (just like every other materialist who preaches love and peace, and yet has no grievances about supporting tyrannical political leaders). Anyone here who doesnt get this is not thinking any of it through hard enough

  120. Vigilant June 25th, 2009 1:29 pm :

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    I think you misinterpret my point. I dont consider evil what is not Christian, I consider evil what is purposely deceitful. It has nothing to do with religion.

    Then why does it seem that you always target Pagan/Wiccan deities? They’re not evil though they are flawed which would make more sense that humans are modeled after them rather the perfect Christian God…

    … Well I guess it wouldn’t matter. Any religion is a lie.

  121. So let me get this straight: we got the “Good Christians” on the one side threatening us with eternal damnation and hellfire if we defy their authoritarian bastard of a god, and then on the other side we got the NWO fanatics threatening us with eternal damnation and hellfire if we defy their authoritarian bastard of a one-world-government.

    Yeeaaaahhh… fuck all ya’ll. I choose neither. I’ll take my chances on my own without any “help” from such “loving” people who “only want the best for me” else they shove me in Hell to burn forever.

  122. BastiatsGhost: Let’s be fair – the Christians that go around threatening you with damnation and hellfire are really more of the loud, embarrassingly obnoxious vocal minority. Most of us don’t care what you worship, but if you’re outright worshipping the devil we’ll think you’re an idiot and will probably keep our distance.

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