Lana Del Rey Says She Wants to Join the 27 Club


In an interview with The Guardian, Lana Del Rey said: “I wish I was dead already”, citing Amy Winehouse and Kurt Cobain as heroes. Both of them died at age 27. While this worrying statement might be a sick way to gain publicity and consolidate her “dark and edgy” aura, it is also representative of what the “Lana Del Rey persona” is about : Sex Kitten Programming.

After a failed attempt to launch a musical career as Lizzie Grant, the singer underwent a “re-tooling” period where she got a new name, a new persona and a rumored plastic surgery to then re-emerge as Lana Del Rey. She then signed with Interscope Records – home of countless other Mind Control-themed artists. Her second album Born to Die was received with great enthusiasm by her fans and heavy criticism by her detractors who claim she is “fake”.

Going beyond the “real or fake” debate, a common thread found across her work is MK Ultra and Beta Programming (to know more about this, read this article).

In the video National Anthem, Lana plays the role of Marilyn Monroe singing Happy Birthday to JFK. As noted in several previous articles, Marilyn Monroe is the prototype of Beta Programming and served as JFK's slave for several years.
In the video National Anthem, Lana reenacts Marilyn Monroe singing Happy Birthday to JFK. As noted in several previous articles, Marilyn Monroe is the prototype of Beta Programming and served as JFK’s slave for several years.
In the video Ride, Lana finds "happiness" by getting intimate with a bunch of strangers who do not seem to care too much about her. While the video was accused of glamorizing prostitution, it also describes the strange mental state of a Beta Kitten.
In the video Ride, Lana finds “happiness” by getting following a bunch of strangers who do not seem to care too much about her. While the video was accused of glamorizing prostitution, it also describes the strange mental state of a Beta Kitten.
In the short movie Tropico, Lana's father is John Wayne, her mother is Marilyn Monroe and her best friend is Jesus Christ. She then bites the apple of original sin (which might refer to initiation into MK Ultra) and turns into a stripper/prostitute/ Beta Kitten.
In the short movie Tropico, Lana’s father is Elvis, her mother is Marilyn Monroe (Beta Slaves are obsessed with Monroe) and her best friend is Jesus Christ. As Eve, she  bites the apple of original sin (which might refer to introduction into MK Ultra) and turns into a stripper/prostitute/ Beta Kitten.

Her third album is entitled Ultraviolence, which is a reference to Stanley Kubrick’s classic movie A Clockwork Orange. In the movie, ultra-violence refers to the Alex DeLarge’s favorite pastime: Getting intoxicated, sadistically beating up innocent people and raping women. Alex is “cured” by the Minister of the Interior with “aversion therapy” which include mind control techniques such as drugging the subject, strapping him to a chair, propping his eyelids open, and forcing him to watch images of violence. Was  “ultra” in the word “ultra-violence” a way for Kubrick to reference MK-Ultra?

The subject matter in her new album is a continuation of her Beta Slave persona. For example, in the title track Ultraviolence, Lana sings “you’re my cult leader” to her abuser; In the song F-cked My Way Up to the Top, Lana prettymuch describes what entertainment industry Kittens are about.

Lana’s recent interview with The Guardian is also in line with her Beta Slave persona.

Joining Club 27?

From the article:

“I wish I was dead already,” Lana Del Rey says, catching me off guard. She has been talking about the heroes she and her boyfriend share – Amy Winehouse and Kurt Cobain among them – when I point out that what links them is death and ask if she sees an early death as glamorous. “I don’t know. Ummm, yeah.” And then the death wish.

Don’t say that, I say instinctively.

“But I do.”

You don’t!

“I do! I don’t want to have to keep doing this. But I am.”

Do what? Make music?

“Everything. That’s just how I feel. If it wasn’t that way, then I wouldn’t say it. I would be scared if I knew [death] was coming, but …”

In my article entitled, Amy Winehouse and Club 27 I explained how Amy Winehouse’s death was extremely suspicious and how the Club 27 phenomenon is accentuated because many industry victims get “shut down” at around the age of 30. The fact that Lana Del Rey sees “glamor” in this almost makes one wonder if she was programmed to believe that.

Later in the interview, Lana is rather negative about her life and her musical career, as if she was forced into a bunch of things.

“Family members will come on the road with me and say: ‘Wow, your life is just like a movie! And I’m like: ‘Yeah, a really f-cked-up movie.’ I didn’t have a home, didn’t know my social security number” and says she wasn’t in contact with her parents for about six years.

About her music business career, she states:

“I never felt any of the enjoyment. It was all bad, all of it.”

While it is possible that Lana is truly depressed, interviews that appear when a new album is released are often very well orchestrated. Whether or not the interview was a promotional stunt to get people talking about how edgy she is, it is nevertheless a continuation of the Beta Kitten persona associated with Lana Del Rey along with the glamorization of self-destructive behavior often found in her works.

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I think that this is a cry for help. We don't and probably will never truly understand what really goes on in the industry. We are looking in from the outside. I look at some of these artists and feel bad because it's like, yeah some of them probably did know what they were doing. Well, there were things we did in our life where we knew what we were doing but we got a second chance and I feel like they should too. It's really sad what the industry does to these people.

Have you considered that they may not want second chances. One of our friends was in a well known punk band and he is now receiving chemo for cancer. However, no repentance is forthcoming even though it has knocked him for six. He blamed 'God' for his woes early on and blames 'God' for his current illness. However, he hails and praises Lucifer. I have seen him do this from his hospital band on the Solstice which is when I realized that they very much wish to live and die by that sword. So, maybe, we should leave them to it for their hearts are too diseased to allow in the true light?

What a load of sanctimonious horseshit.

I love her music, this makes me so sad 🙁 I also love Amy and Kurt, and I love Janis Joplin as well. I would hate to see Lana go the way they did.

Just gonna point out that Anthony Burgess wrote A Clockwork Orange, and he coined the term ultraviolence… and all the reprogramming s**t that happens in the film is as described in the book. J/S

Get back to me when you are twenty-six and a half…

Lana didn't actually say that. Apparently the media twisted what she said. She posted a rant about it on her twitter. I agree with the rest of the analysis, but the actual statement she "said" isn't true.

F**ked her way to the top? Hmm I heard her billionaire daddy moved heaven and earth several times so little princess could be a pop star. I wouldn't care so much if it weren't for the continuous lies about she was just some kid in her bedroom who became an 'internet sensation' albeit one with a huge team of corporate insiders and several failed launches. NEXT!

Good article, as always.

In a follow up article from the guardian it appears Lana is not too happy about the interview
In tweets posted on Thursday night, since deleted, the singer said: “I regret trusting the Guardian. I didn't want to do an interview but the journalist was persistent. Alexis (sic) was masked as a fan but was hiding sinister ambitions and angles. Maybe he's actually the boring one looking for something interesting to write about. His leading questions about death and persona were calculated.”

Yeh, when I was a dumb 21 I thought I wanted to die at 27 like Jim Morrison. When I got to 27, I had different ideas about that.

This in: listen and you'll hear that the interviewer was practically begging her to say it until she actually did:
Just more media bs. I still believe that's she's troubled, though.

Yeah the thing is there is not a publicist in the world that would let her interview on such a subject unless it was to further her fame as a tortured artist … Maybe she is but you can bet it's for financial gain from whomever is handling her. Every move is controlled as well as the interviews

Well she can't, because she turns 29 on Saturday.

okay, let me try this again 'cause some of my stuff is disappearing or not showing up while others immediately post (sorry, I'm new here and don't know how it works) : I think it's important to point out that she was troubled as a teen, an alcoholic, she spent time in a cult at some point in her life (she mentioned in an interview that that is what the song "Ultraviolence" is about), and find it odd that her father insists that nobody has anything to worry about after his daughter proclaims to the world that she wants to die! This may be evidence of MK-Ultra, as he is a millionaire. I've met her once and a friend opened up for her on a few tour dates and from my observations first and second hand along with her past, her statement definitely seems like something to take seriously and… Read more »

I don't think it's a stunt. she seems very depressed and has anxiety. you can tell from her performances. I hope she gets better.

"Was “ultra” in the word “ultra-violence” a way for Kubrick to reference MK-Ultra?"
Absolutely not. A Clockwork Orange was a novel before it was a film, and the language used in the film is taken directly from the novel. A Clockwork Orange was written in 1962, and while MK-Ultra was in full swing during this period, it wasn't a matter of public knowledge until the mid 70's, and it's author Anthony Burgess was not in a position to have any real contact with the program, having been abroad teaching languages at the time. If anything inspired 'A Clockwork Orange' beyond his own feelings about communism, capitalism, and the authoritarian 'nanny-state', it was the beating and r**e of his pregnant wife by several young American deserters during the London blackouts of WWII.

"wasn't a matter of public knowledge until the mid 70's"
Kubrick seemed to know much more than the general public…

Don't be so sure that Burgess wasn't an intelligence asset. There have been other writers who were assets including J.D. Salinger, natch

Dyou have any reason to think he was? Other than the fact we don't KNOW he wasn't?

okay, somewhat of a sidenote
So I saw her in concert in May (I don't think she performs so much in the US)
And I (and several other people in the crowd) could swear that she was seriously drugged/high/drunk. She could barely get through her songs. After every song she went to the crowd and took selfies (which is cool, i guess). In a 90 minute set, she probably did like 10 songs while Foster the People played almost 20 songs

Honestly, I was convinced she wasn't a real (physical) person up until that day.
I don't really have a point, just sharing my Lana story

that's what everyone is saying! I was at one of her shows and pretty close up for the opening act but I had to squeeze myself to the back after he was done 'cause I couldn't deal with her aggressive fans! – so i wasn't able to see that, aside from photos in reviews, but even there it's visible that something's not right!

I can not recall hearing her sing, only trying out voices, a lot in a Julie London style, but that one could hold a note.
Might be one the the few hard ones she mentioned : the incredible insecurity of knowing you cannot sing that well, and step on that stage, hoping the band will play loud again.

the band was SO loud. the pianist even began singing (talking/rapping idk) some parts of her songs.
I know she has terrible stage presence, so I can forgive that i guess but i'm so glad she wasn't the only performer

A lot of people who say "just quit being famous, retire and go to the midwest", well I thought that too. But the amount of money that is involved with promoting and marketing these entertainers, I don't think they have a choice. It's like a mob or gang mentality. In my teens, there was a popular boy at my school. He was involved in a gang. He wanted to quit the gang and move. And they knew this. So they killed him. He left a note saying goodbye to his family and friends. His picture was in the paper after it happened. So maybe this is Lana's "note" to her fans. Knowing that she can never quit the industry. At least not in the conventional sense.

Hotel California, you can check in but you can never check out.

as I've heard Dave Chappelle say… (paraphrasing) once you become famous, you can never become un-famous. You can only become infamous.

Demi Moore moved to Iowa many years ago…

She came back once involved with Kutcher…

They can leave.

Was curious about "lizzy grant" so i looked up some pix…I'm surprise she was so blonde then & was made-over brunette/red haired as LDR. Isn't going blonde usually part of the "transformation"? Anyway, also found this @… "Before Lana Del Rey was Lana Del Rey, she was Lizzy Grant. But before she was Lizzy Grant, she was May Jailer. No matter how many names she gives herself and her collections of demos that continue to find their way onto the tumblr, I am obsessed with Elizabeth Coolidge Grant. Like many listeners, I saw the video for Video Games and was entranced by this neo-femme fatale. I found her Lizzy Grant album (Lizzy Grant a.k.a. Lana Del Ray–with an a, not e) and loved the whole vibe and concept. She was like a David Lynch heroine roaming through Coney Island hell. Then this album leaked. I feel like it is… Read more »

Oh boy….she prefers death than life…that's not good at all…
She probably doesn't have fun at all in her life…

Well, we will all see shortly, won't we? Just how real or fake this was.

Is she begging to die? Poor girl… Her life must be so horrible.

Seriously, I really hate all those people with "martyr complex", who are always victims etc. All her songs are depressing, she is depressed, seems very negative and now she wants to die (WOW I AM SHOCKED!!). She wanted fame, she received. Just because there are MK Ultra victims and so on doesn't mean that all the celebs are good and poor souls and they have been abused and tortured. They wanted in the first place! Yes there are some who are in this bussiness since they were kid but not all of them, that's obvious.

Well ts not like they came up to her and said we are going to torture and control you till we have no more use for you. Im sure a lot of people dont know till its too late.

edgy? She sounds suicidal.

She wants to meet Baphomet because she loves him so much. Hollywood is filled with nutcases.

she sounds more like attention-whoring to me. we shouldn't take her, or any other celeb too seriously.

One of my favourite summaries of the whole thing… I wish more people would realize that not everyone involved is evil, not even CLOSE. It's the few big names behind the curtain controlling the rest, not a big vampire coctail party hosted by every celebrity on Hollywood and supported by the likes of McCartney and Bono. The thing is, most of them have no clue what's actually happening, many of them believe what they're doing is for a good cause.

We need to stop demonizing celebrity individuals and look at the bigger picture. They are not the true enemies, the puppetmasters are.

The sick thing is that the "big names behind the curtain" prey on those who naïvely believe in their fight. And when all that hard work is so easily dismantled by bullies, simply by the bat of an evil lash, it's enough to make a sweet hearted person fall apart at the seams. This is done repeatedly until the innocent complies or breakdown/commit suicide. Usually these methods are performed on young and budding entertainers while they're so easily swayed. Want fame and fortune? Sign your life away.

Thank you very much for the link!

No, if someone is tired of life, we have to tale it seriously! Poor girl! I understand her.. Who would Sayes something like that just to get attention.. She needs help.

Right. Celebrities are not humans, and therefore do not deserve a lick of empathy. I forgot. Silly me.

PS: What's it like being a sociopath?

Mistrust in the system isn't always directed at the individual in an obtrusive way as if we feel entitled to their lives and denounce their pains.

Your response comes across egoist.

hmm then we might be narcissistic. if we don't wish anything bad to happen to celebrities, nevertheless we don't like their attitude, hence we criticize then when we aren't actually jealous of them but very irritated. that's not normal. it indicates narcissism. something is very wrong with us. from what i can gather it's a combination of egoism/narcissism. you can't demand and expect others to behave according to your rules and standards. that's very OTT. but that's the way we appear to be many of us.

u dont know a thing about narcissism. maybe u just say that word cuz its popular nowadays? thats not narcissistic what u described

egosim, definitely, but not necessarily narcissism, which is a personality disorder.

You seem to be very compassionate .

Many people dont know this girl tried MANY times to get intothe industry! Have you heard her in concert or live? shes the worst! She is exactly the kind of industry s**t “they” need, someone desperate for fame and immortality!

You know, one year ago I just loved all Lana's songs and could listen them every day. But sometimes later I started to notice that when I listened to her songs strange and bad things happened to me. Like her songs were programmed for something dark and mysterious. At that time I didn't even think about illuminati and etc., but this was real. It was my intuition, something from the inside told me to stop. I think all of these illuminati sponsored songs are somehow programmed for destruction and degradation. They don't have soul. They encourage you to lose your soul.

With so many celebrities that seem to go thru this kind of mind programming, do these celebrities ever do googles? Or they are just so isolated and controlled, they do not get exposed to this information? The more i read about Mk Ultra, the more explains so many of the behaviors of child celebrities. I do believe it's a legit, sub-culture within the entertainment industry.

never heard of her before…
No doubt you guys have found a good way of promoting new pop stars lol

I've always been trying to avoid this stuff because I want to be an actress but this site really scares but I can't look away. I'm 14 and all my friends were obsessed with her and when one of my friends showed me Summertime Sadness (I think) there was something really off about her, like her stares looked somewhat blank and everything she did seemed forced.

You don’t want to be an actress.

Hmmm….well, I'll switch lives with you, sugar bug, if your life is so bad. You can come to my job and be bored out of your mind and treated like crap by people who are about 20 IQ points less intelligent than you are, then go home to drudgery and I will live a glamorous life with a handsome boyfriend, lots of money, beautiful clothing and getting to do just what I love to do – sing and make music. Somehow, I really do not feel too sorry for poor old Lana.

Creative artists are often deeply troubled. That is no accident. Their wounds are often the very stimulus responsible for their enormous creativity. Their creative output is part of their struggle to make sense of their suffering.

That is not a problem if their wounds were the result of the random and natural vicissitudes of life. Life can be hard. Hardship can often be the psychological wellspring of great art. The suffering may be regrettable, but there is no blame attached if the suffering was the result of natural circumstances.

MK Ultra style abuse is a different matter altogether. If an artist was deliberately abused in order to exploit her or him for another person's monetary greed or sadistic pleasure, that is an abomination and totally unacceptable.

also the representation of that suffering becomes trite since they're all experiencing the same thing and programmed to include the same occult themes. also the person, the seemingly interesting or glamorous character, becomes vain, if not vacuous, only filled with momentum.

I wish Lana would get the f**k over herself. Start living in the real world.

I just read another article from the New York Times where she again says she just wants to die and wants it all to be over. She actually posted this article from her Facebook as well.

Upbringing is really not that important in terms of shaping the adult you choose to become if you are an awake individual. I think that psychologists have collectively manipulated the last generation into believing that if anything remotely unpleasant happened in your childhood then you are doomed for life. Do not buy into it unless you wish to submit to the beast agenda. God created us fairly resilient and suffering and overcoming obstacles is what we are designed to do in order for God to test our mettle. Without overcoming our own personal trials and tribulations and growing as spiritual beings, our lives are worthless. Her father was rich, she might have been smacked … so what? Wallow in it at aged 28 and make it a whole lot worse for oneself by writing songs about it and performing them and creating permanent associations to them forever? Do you not… Read more »

"Do you not realize the greatest con of the music industry which I have always called the Love Industry."

As a child, I always wondered why most popular music was centred on love when there were so many other subjects.

You are correct, sexuality is but a fraction of our being yet it is often the focus of arts and entertainment. You have to wonder why.

Sex sells. Music aimed at young people is mostly about romantic or sexual love because their reproductive hormones are at a peak. The rhythm, lyrics, and melody are used as a hook. That's the money making side. On the hypnotic side, the listener while subtly aroused is more open to suggestions which are not at all connected. Think about Britney Spears song, with the lyrics, "I'm a slave."

'i'm a slave' wasn't that good. her first song ever, was the best.

Well even though people get abused it's their job to make their lives better. Get the heck over it and move on. Stop living in the past.

People who throw this out sometimes have no excuses for why their lives aren't better, therefore they loathe seeing someone else play that card. It's more the attitude than the intention. Also, regular people 'fake it to make it' and blame outside forces (the govt, bosses, in laws, other people, etc) for dampening their quality of life.

Anyway, being famous and successful and wealthy is supposed to be a way of making lemonade out of lemons. It's just a hollow albeit appealing construct, littered by perversions within the industry. If they sign contracts before knowing all that that contract entails, then they are quasi bourgie slaves.

You're making a lot of assumptions about the extent of her abuse…How do you know how easy or hard she had it? You really don't.

I suspect she's a part of the machine. Take it or leave it.

it's all fake… just like her breasts and her lips. just to look cool and to get empty headed followers to be suicidal… sad!

Did you also notice how she sings, like she's sedated on strong prescription pills? None of this is by accident

I know, people always judging somebody else when they are worst than that person they are judging, THIS IS the reason the entertainment industry leaves 28 billions of profit every year, BECAUSE of the mind-controlled people that get obsessed with this so called celebrities and everything GOT WORST when they start to idolize that shallow people like the kardashians INSTEAD OF JUDGING you should stop buying or supporting anything in the ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY that doesn't have a good content or if the singer or the actor doesn't have a real talent DON'T SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF SUPERFICIALITY IN THE MUSIC, MOVIES OR ANY TYPE OF INDUSTRY, people should win a place in any type of industry thanks to their talent and good personality no otherway, THAT'S THE WAY WE CAN GET RID OF THE MILEY CYRUS AND KARDASHIANS OF THIS TIME.

''..interviews that appear when a new album is released are often very well orchestrated..''

Spot on, i think. Even this mk-cult around del rey is faked. Remember she has an almost as clever team around her as that gaga has. She might have to do a lot of things she doesn't like, but that is the bussiness for all included : contracts. Performing around the globe is hard work. Grow up, lizz.

more like being prostituted around the globe

I would like to read an explanation of all her videos. She always sounds so depressed and her music is so dark, that is cool, but it really fancy you to go and suicide!

By the way, "ultra-violence" is a term already used by Burgess himself in the novel, it's not Kubrick's invention.

Lana has some nice songs but her songs most of the time talks about sad,depression,pity … which brings me to the point that I don't want to listen to her songs no more cos it's all the same and nothing cheerful to say the least!

I truly feel sorry for her esp when she sings and cries her eyes expression makes me sad more than her f
face features , I have herd that her father is a rich guy too so maybe he sold her to this sick music industry.

I wish her well and I wish she would be stronger.

her name in spanish literaly means " the king´s wool" (lana=wool del rey=the king's), but the word lana is slang for money, the real translation of her name is "the king's money".

Golden Fleece

ah, slang. I just asked someone else about this. thanks for clearing it up.

you're welcome

It is only her stage name. Her real name is something like Elisabeth Grant (you can see why she changed it to sound more ethereal). She is not Catholic, she is Jewish.

Jewish? Haha. Nope.

She does claim to be a Roman Catholic.

Maybe this is a Reference to her ties to Elvis? Probably a reference to her being a prized possession of the most Powerful Elite Handlers across the board though. Interesting. Thanks for the translation!

" reference to her ties to elvis" , that's really interesting. I think it's for both reasons.

you're welcome 🙂

As a fan who has been following her for almost 3 years, I really do believe she is not happy and wants to die as a means for escape. People mistake her lyrics for being just whiny and even filthy for attention, but I really do think she's crying for help in a way, singing about experiences she had in "dark" times. I liked her because she remains poetic and creative in a way, which she is limited to of course. Here are some of her lyrics I think are very interesting and show she has sold her soul. —"I once had dreams of becoming a beautiful poet, but upon an unfortunate series of events saw those dreams dashed and divided like a million stars in the night sky that I wished on over and over again, sparkling and broken. But I didn't really mind because I knew that it… Read more »

In reference to one of her quotes, several demons smell of cinnamon. I have encountered them myself. Usually associated with love spells..

Once you are a fan of any enter-tainment star you come with blinkers on … even if you choose to live in denial of this. Fan means that they have got you on side and it spoils the collective analysis for the rest of us who know better.

Nah, trust me, I'm really can't stand to be like one of her brainwashed followers who call her queen and worship her. I went to her concert and it was horrible. Drunk people everywhere singing along, 13 year old girls dancing around like they're on drugs, thousands of mindless people screaming, "I love you! Queen!" I'm a fan of her unique voice and the fact she is allowed to be open about the dark and write her own lyrics but that's about it. I couldn't idolize her depressed and "Hollywood idol" persona if I tried.

I feel the same way you do and its kind of funny because I hate all these pop stars and their music, and I especially hated Lana when she debuted, but sometimes you get a glimmer of what they're really going through peeking through the shiny pop crap and its really interesting. I started listening to Lana only a few weeks ago, not because she's hyped up as an "artsy talent", but because she is a real MK Ultra who is singing about it and yet still no one believes its real! Its very interesting. I also like the "Dark" California vibe that she carries in the music, since we all know sunny California and Hollywood are darker than they would seem in advertising. I see her as almost a Hollywood movie turned in on itself and then back out to the masses. Its a reflection of the tortured, f****d… Read more »

I'm glad someone understands why I'm interested in her! I certainly don't worship or idolize her, but Ilike you said, I like how she lets everyone know that Hollywood isn't pretty, and there is a "dark side" of the American dream. But many people don't even look into the meaning of her lyrics and focus on the druggy-sounding tone of her voice and music.
She is a primary source for the darkness of the music industry, and they let her be. So yeah, she is definitely worth a listen.

Still don't like her.

Whatever these people do publicly is all part of the act, especially when it' published like this in such great detail. There is nothing outside of the their control, unless, of course, the victim freaks out or there's a programming glitch like when Britney shaved her head. If you feel sorry for Lana because of what was said in this interview, you've already bought into it, and they achieved their goal. Sorrowful and depressed is Lana's persona and empathy is the emotion that they are using to hook us in so that they can then twist it against us. We should worry more about our souls and the souls of our children who are all being destroyed by this pop culture and the evil behind it. Of course, those who are playing a global role in soul crushing, such as Lana Del Rey, will ultimately suffer for it because that… Read more »

Well said!

I think it's mostly for publicity, from the start death has been a major theme in her music and videos. She even posted on her Facebook page last year that she was going to show people that death was beautiful. This was before her "Summertime Sadness" video came out; it's probably still on there. I also believe that she is a mind control slave, especially after watching her "West Coast" video and a snippet of her "Ultraviolence" video where she's with what seems to be a mysterious older power type of a man, and wearing a red dress. In her "Tropico" video before the "redemption" scene starts she throws what looks like a Bible and a rosary out of the car and she prays to John Wayne. ??? So her image and music are all about death, duality, drugs, abuse and desanctifying religion. Plus she literally blew up out of… Read more »

Summertime Sadness is about the aftermath of an outdoor satanic ritual as morning breaks. Read the lyrics

The very first time I heard her music I saw red flags. I think she has an interesting sound but her style is all very dark and eerie, its that element of glamorising and promotion of death which is a very common theme in todays pop culture. I remember some user on here pointing out she might have had programming done to have the style and sound of Dusty Springfield….Interesting. Also her song "Born to Die" – obsession with death once again & this should tell you that her songs and lyrics is a reflection of how she is feeling on the inside. She tells you in her music. Also in the still image above for the Tropico film, note she is dressed in Red…….Nice article VC. Peace.

"Money is the reason we exist
Everybody knows it, it's a fact
Kiss, kiss"

Why is everyone so biased towards her? she said her lyrics are half sarcasm and half autobiographical

She is just depressed, don't take the i wanna die now too literal

I saw her New York voting registration and SHE IS ==28== BY THE WAYYYY

I really adore her. Wish she would be just an ordinary singer without any super-worldwide kind of fame and have no mk-ultra programming crap.

That's funny,i remember recently reading an article where she was talking about how happy she was and how the dark undertones of her new album doesn't reflect her current life.IMO this is just to garner more hype around her album.

Wow, it amazes me how judgmental and hateful some so-called "Christians" on this site can be. It is so very closed-minded to say 'oh, this person is suffering but wants to live… so EVERYONE who is suffering should want to live'. Are you serious? This girl has probably been through hell and back, and actually WANTS to die – this may well be her pleading with her handlers to kill her already. Yet you horrible, desensitized people yell 'attention w***e' and scoff at her. How cold can you be? You all would probably make wonderful MK Ultra handlers because you lack basic empathy, that's for damn sure. Way to victim blame.

I agree that the correct Christian attitude, when it comes to critiquing artists such as Lana Del Rey, is not to condemn, but to empathise. I'm a Christian, and I don't feel any repulsion or disgust that Lana has publicly stated that she wants to die. Instead, I feel so sad for her. She is obviously depressed. Some people have never experienced depression, so perhaps they can't understand what it's like to feel so overwhelmed by life that you could wish your own death. But I know many people, including myself, who have felt this wretched at some point. It's not attention-seeking, it's a desperate plea for someone to save you from your situation. Jesus said that he came not to save the upright, but the sinners. Jesus, I'm sure, would've sat down with Lana and convinced her that she was special and could overcome her problems, instead of turning… Read more »

It amazes me too… So many people here with so many backgrounds, and of course, so many opinions. I thought this site was open for discussions with respect, but I'm afraid of opening my mouth when it is not in line with the majority here.
We all have 1 thing in common, we all want to know the truth about the world. But still, it is up to yourself to find it and your truth can be different than the one of others.

PLEASE people, treat everyone with respect and don't push people on the ground when they don't understand what you're saying or don't believe what you believe.
IT IS NOT always just a matter of opening your eyes, sometimes it is, but opening your eyes is hard and you can never push someone.

Everyone has the same worth, to bad that a lot of people here cannot see that 🙁

Preaching the truth if you don't agree with the majority you're treated like an idiot or like your idea or feeling is a crazy thing in subjects like this we should have open minds we're no better if we agree with what the majority says and scuff at what a few different people say!

There are people who don't deserve empathy.

Not having empathy for a person would be apathy. Not having empathy for a person in order to fuel your own self-pride is being truly judgmental. It's not used to cultivate your good judgment, it's used to shame someone else whom you have a leg up on.

empathy is relating to the "feeling" – as in already been there oneself, a shared and similar experience to know how it feels. Sympathy is caring (with a distance on not so much the experience, but shared views) – apathy is not giving a dam either way. You cant give empathy if the experience is a negative one to your views.

unless you are a saint. those ones always show empathy to wards everyone no matter what they do, no matter what experiences they have. that's why we look up to them. they are different than us, yet very likeable and unique. they had reached the highest spiritual level.

Like people who believe some don't deserve empathy?

You don't know those people are Christians – they could be atheists or Jews or Buddhists. Way to show your anti-Christian bigotry and bias!

I am not anti-Christian.I am, however, anti-"Christian" – meaning that, certain people claim to be Christians but show no mercy for their fellow mankind and basically only wear the name as a weapon for their argument, but don't practice the morality or empathy Jesus teaches. This is why I said 'some so-called "Christians"' – note that I did not say all. And the people I'm referring to, I am quite positive are in the category, not the ones you listed.

Don't do it Lana! Strike back against the Monarch MK Ultra empire and reveal to the public who your Masters are! We will expose them and put an end to their black magic forever

Lana Del Rey = Learned Lay

Lana Del Rey = You are reading too much into this

Hey that's true the word "Read" is in anagrams for her name! Thanks for the contribution teammate!

Maybe she was sick of her fried blonde hair and that's why she went with a darker hue. I fluctuate back and forth between my own hair being blonde to a more somber, natural color.

Also, maybe LDR is a neo-goth. Has anyone thought of that? Am I the only one with goth music from the 80's? It's dark, sexy and melodic like her tunes.

At least this article is handled in a classy way. Mark Dice went on this awful diatribe, spewing his usual vitriol re: LDR.

Something else that dawned on me: LRH= Lafayette Ronald Hubbard. LDR= Lana Del Rey. LRH (creator of Scientology) was besties with Aleister Crowley, a troll magician whom the elite perpetuates with skeezy black magic like MK Ultra.

Lana Del Rey = Learned Lay = Lady Leaner

I see you found an anagram generator.

poor Lana many people will pass her words off simply as a publicity stunt because her album is coming out but many will not know or question well why would someone as Lana would ever say something like that. Why would some one like Lana who has no bills to worry about like the average human being has a lavish life style and is perusing the career of her dreams want to join the likes of Amy whinehouse or John Lennon at the tender age of 27? This is where you question things like what is wrong with Lana? What the hell is she really going through? What the f**k is up with the Entertainment Industry? You see you guys we the outsiders don't know anything particular about Lana besides with the false media tells us. Heck half of us didn't even know her real name isn't even Lana del… Read more »

To use the moniker Gifted, after writing such a poorly composed rant. . .the constant "guys" comes off so patronizing and is there anything more annoying than those who post such verbal vomit, with foul language and then close with Scripture??

John Lennon was 40 and he was assassinated. Don't put him in that boat.

If he were 41 it would work
2*7 = 14 , reverse digits

@ Gifted:
Nice piece there. Point of correction though; the scripture says "THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL'' what you quoted was""MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL'' Money in itself is not bad, as the holy scripture also says : MONEY ANSWERS ALL THINGS".
The danger inherent is the LOVE for money, i.e. GREED!

Money is not the root of all evil. The love of money is the root of all evil.

Okay I don't know why everyone says the thing with "she was sold to the industry as an infant" because it's not always true! Many of them didn't even had a connection until they got famous. I don't like Lana del rey, she is part of that cool hipster fashionable era and her music isn't that good anyway.

She's also references Jim Morrison in one of her songs

Her Father was a copywriter for a MADISON Ave firm called Grey

He looks like a self made millionaire though

She is of Scottish Ancestry.


Copywriters are a funny bunch of people. In the UK, the Saatchi brothers made their fortune from copywriting even though by his own admission, Charles Saatchi was basically just wealthy and not academic. He said that it proved to be a huge money-spinner. The Saatchis are also part of the Fourth Way occult movement. I wonder is Lana's family were involved in the movement.

Yes, I noticed that, just another one of the many clues to her MK background. People who say she's not, don't know what clues to look for. The Scottish ancestry thing is huge!

What does the Scottish ancestry have to do with it?

I'm genuinely curious. I'm off Scottish descent myself…. hoping that doesn't mean anything bad 🙁

Scottish rite freemasonry is the 33rd degree which is high though not the highest as many would believe. Scottish rite freemasonry was actually modeled on my ancestral beliefs so it feels familiar to me in many respects, although I was never interested in it and I have completely rejected it and accepted the Abrahamic lineage.

i'd be interested in reading an explanation of tropico…