Invasion of Libya on the Same Day as the Invasion of Iraq: The Vernal Equinox


Libyan Jet Crashing

The war on Iraq was declared on March 19th 2003.

Western forces attacked Libya on March 20th 2011.

Is there an occult reason behind this? Both invasions occurred on the eve of the Vernal Equinox – a date that was – and still is – extremely significant throughout History. It is the date of the Sun’s resurrection and was often celebrated with a blood sacrifice to “impregnate the Earth”.

“When the vernal equinox no longer occurred in the sign of Taurus, the Sun God incarnated in the constellation of Aries and the ram then became the vehicle of the solar power. Thus the sun rising in the sign of the Celestial Lamb triumphs over the symbolic serpent of darkness. The blood of the lamb is the solar life pouring into the world through the sign of Aries.
– Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages

“It (the Vernal Equinox) was particularly the sacrifice des primeurs, the first fruits of the fields, the first vegetables, the first lambs and other young animals and so on. And the first-born son, Christ the Son of God, is also sacrificed at the time of the vernal equinox. This idea of youth being sacrificed was called in Rome the ver sacrum, the sacred spring.”
– Carl Jung, Notes on the Seminar Given in 1930-1934 Volume 1

“The object of this paper was to show that human sacrifice, which prevailed extensively in early times, was a custom connected especially with the Vernal Equinox, and that the offerings were made to appease a mythical dragon which made its demand at that time. The Dragon of mythology is identified and defined, and shown in what sense he opened his jaws at the spring season of the year.

In Egypt they had been abolished at an early period; but in Greece we have historical instances.”
– George St. Clair, Dragon Sacrifices at the Vernal Equinox

According to some researchers, in Illuminati lore, the Spring Equinox is consideredย  a Minor Sabbath but still requires human sacrifice. March 21-22 is dedicated Goddess Ostara (Ishtar, also spelled, “Eostre”), for whom “Easter” is named. March 21 is one of the Illuminati’s Human Sacrifice Night. Ishtar was the Babylonian goddess of fertility, love and war. Her name derives from the words for “Dawn”.

Is it a coincidence that the name of the military operation in Libya is “Operation Odyssey Dawn”? Are we looking at another mega-ritual?




  1. there was another operation: unified defender, which was NATOs operation that started 3/23 and officially ended on Holloween of the same year. Exactly 222 days later!

  2. I'm adding this much after the fact, but I've been reading about Libya and have found many interesting things. It's one of the oldest cultures on Earth, with a huge trove of prehistoric art sites (more than 100,000). The religion and culture are related to those of Egypt, and Isis and Set were worshipped there at one point. One school of academic thought believes that Osiris originated as a Libyan god, as may have Amun, the sun god. Many of the peoples who ended up settling northern Europe millenia ago came from Libya or passed through on their migrations. The Libyan Great Goddess was the center of a snake cult, and became demonized as the Lamia vampire of the Mediterranean region (hello Britney Spears and Ke$ha wearing snakes in their performances). Even Athena may have been Libyan in origin. This place is extremely important in human development and cultural development in the ancient world. No wonder something is going on there.

  3. Speaking from the pulpit of Chicago's Mosque Maryam, the Nation of Islam's international headquarters, purchased 40 years ago with a $3 million loan from Gadhafi, Farrakhan blamed demons for altering President Barack Obama's moral conscience and driving the assault on Gadhafi, who he calls a brother.

  4. i read some comments that says the catholic church are the babylons or whatsoever… can that be true…the catholic stands for the truth and thats why u guys are against her….remember the illuminati are tryin their best to bring the catholic church down but they wont succed cos Jesus said the gate of hell will not prevail over his church(catholic church)

  5. you people are soo stupid your fighting muslims vs christians when the enemy is right infront of you.and they don't even care who you are as long as your not from their elite your life is nothing.

    they will start with the Muslims then the Christians and when there done with their goal in Jerusalem they will finish of with the Jews.after all they were responsible for the holocaust

  6. All I know is that at least 3 of the worlds major religions hail from nearly the same exact spot. At least one of them would be perfectly happy to eliminate the other two and all the rest while they are at it. The Christian Bible loosely puts it that this is the area where the ultimate battle/ end comes to. Revelations is getting scarier all the time. Know anyone wearing a blue turban?

  7. To reiterate if I may. The oppressor of collective humanity has for centuries artfully used human religious belief systems of spirituality to achieve and manipulate Machiavellian policies detrimental to peace within the collective human community, and curtail human spiritual understanding, knowledge, discernment, discrimmination, faith, and evolution.

    Collective humanity is presently stuck in the mud of secular and non-secular ignorance, supersition, suspicion, and guilt, fostered by an international priesthood which changes religious faith to fit its global agenda of divide, and control, quicker then a chameleon changes color to conceal itself within a given enviroment.

    This cunning hunter is a predator who understands the dynamics of human basic instinct, and primal emotion, and pimps them to the disadvantage of collective humanity, which it has successfully entrapped, and feeds upon, whenever it so desires.

    Human beings persecuting human beings, divided against themselves, and killing one another is exactly what this parasite wants, as human history clearly reveals to the observing student.

    It's feeding frenzy time again as the close of an Aeon approaches, and the circling sharks smell the sweet blood of the profane, while "the Children of Light and the Children of Darkness" strive and struggle against one another in the eternal spiritual war and battle without end.

    "Fool me the first time, and it's shame on you, but fool me the second time, and it's shame on


  8. Clearly a sign of the end times. We are living in the last days everyone. Do as the bible says before its too late! Be baptized in Jesus name for the remission of your sins and be filled with the holy ghost with evidence of speaking in tongues. The bible commands it. Not me. May the Lord open your eyes and hearts.






  10. Not only did it occur the same day, it started the very same minute, 2:48pm (Libyian/Iraq Time) to be exact. 2:48 is the 888th minute of the day. I am not entirely sure of the significance of 888 but I know it is important to the Illuminati. It may be because if you take 8 and add the numbers before it to itself, you get 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 = 36, and if you take the number 36 and do the same you get 666. It may also be that the cycle of Venus in the sky takes 8 years to complete. But, for whatever reason, the Sun-worshipping Cult loves the number 8.

    So I predict now that in 2019 at 2:48 another military conflict will start.

  11. first of all who is UN to come in to Libya,the country was in peace in those 4 decades,not in civil war,they created the Middle east up rising for Libya , Syria and Iran.

    And i hat obama's voice.

  12. Alright – so there's some nutcase out there that seems to think all Jews are evil or something.

    I've seen that kind of stuff before – no big surprise.

    The real question is how did these insane and offensive comments become the most highly rated comments?

    What kind of place is this, anyway?

    • Like all other peoples of the world Mark, the Hebrews are neither all saints, nor are they all sinners, and no one is pointing the finger at the Jews, or the Arabs, but clearly something detrimental to the collective human family seeks to mask itself in pious piety, using the clever disguise of religious attire and priestly deception, to remain successively hidden in the dark of religious and racial insensitivity, where it can cleverly manipulate the semantics of religious division, religious belief, religious intolerance, and religious hatred, to defend its global agenda, and shield itself from the light of day, and scrutiny of the truth.

      Maciavellian policies of divide, and control through politics, government, industry, religion, and economics, for the continued oppression and control of the human collective, to the curtailment of their spiritual evolution, is at issue here Mark.

      We are all in the same boat, and either we all pull together now before its too late, and pool our intelligence, or "there won't be anyone left to get to the chooper".

  13. Just looking at the number of posts on this topic is outstanding. There is only 1 religion and 1 creator, between the quran and the by bill there is only one higher power. As you type away arguing about who is right and who is wrong, there is an agenda being placed on all of us.

    Regardless of what religion you follow, the laws of the universe are not being met and all the religions that are placed before us is to do exactly what you are doing here. Confuse, separate, and hate!

    Can someone explain to me what is antisemitism, and what is the meaning of semite?

    • Turkey was Armenia in the Days of Abraham.

      Five Sons of Shem

      1. Elam (Arabia)

      2. Asshur (Assyria)

      3. Lud (Lydians)

      4. Aram (Aramaic, Armenia, Mesopotamia, Syria)********

      5. Arphaxad (From which Abraham descended)

      His Name: Shem

      The eldest son of Noah, from whom the Jews, as well as the Semitic ("Shemitic") nations in general have descended

      All the nations listed above are Semitic Tribes.

    • –noun


      a subfamily of Afroasiatic languages that includes Akkadian, arabic, Aramaic, Ethiopic, Hebrew, and Phoenician.



      of or pertaining to the Semites or their languages, especially of or pertaining to the Jews

      — n

      1. a branch or subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic family of languages that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic, Amharic, and such ancient languages as Akkadian and Phoenician

      — adj

      2. denoting, relating to, or belonging to this group of languages

      3. denoting, belonging to, or characteristic of any of the peoples speaking a Semitic language, esp the Jews or the Arabs

      4. another word for Jewish

      Shemitic or ( less commonly ) Shemitic

  14. Okay, so I should probably be doing my homework right about now… but honestly, I've been stuck on this site for quite a while. Reading the article and everyone's comments is really interesting and I definitely feel it's a much better way to spend my time instead of doing English homework. ๐Ÿ˜›

    Keep up the good work, VC. And to everyone else, thanks for some insightful comments ๐Ÿ™‚

  15. When I was reading through the papers about Muammar Al-Gaddaffi and came to know of invasion of Libya, I was like "What the hell?" cause I didn't expect the US and France to intervene especially in Libyan peoples' own struggle for their rights. And right now, I was just thinking whether we should trust the US or Muammar Al-Gaddaffi.

  16. "The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the 'agentur' of the 'Illuminati' between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion". from Albert Pike 33rd degree Freemason

    • I see… By now, I don't think you mind my inclusions? No ego, but you like to share and you have the books of Alexandria with you too. They burn papers too quick though it seems, kind of like the fire in the Towers that do the same.

      It's interesting that the known theory is supported by a Pikeman as well, and thirty three degrees have already entered the South Asian Community. Cultivation of the forces at play keeps the Third World at Bay, just to make sure they water the flowers the right way, and those are the ones are on top of their grave.

      While they supposedly divide and conquer, is it safe to assume they laid the cobblestones themselves already? Isn't that the "Way" to be Watchers, to make sure they corner whichever the winds blow?

      Monuments to your terror domes, obelisks to the Kabbah black stone, slice the wings of thought forms and grid your patterns from the "Tomes"?

      Giza to Freeza, you see the Lizard King? I think I'll take this Komodo to the Zoo, and I see that the signalling the Aquarium too. Dead Sea made Red, Atlantis Has Spread, Mu Resurrected… Lemuria watched the Sumerian Civilization. So where does that leave us with our modern day ancestry?

      I, Self Lord and Master to my Arm Leg Leg Arm Head, I project this thought into your head, and as the frequency of the East Coast through the Five Percenters Brings This Exodia's Head, known to me and you that the Cross was known to Native Americans Before Columbus Landed His Crowned Maiden's Head.

      Where we at then? Controlled Demographics like an info-statistic, game of constant logistics, and when we see the experiment, know that the biasness exists, that your "worth" is "less" than "price" less. How's that taste friends?

      Disagree with me then see the warring and tell me if I'm the one you should be fighting?


  17. I knew this already, for years now (though I'm only 18), and it still makes me sick knowing a psychotic stone age cult rules the f*****g planet. And how dare they rub our noses in it. There will be justice, someday soon perhaps. I pray that the innocents will be protected from this evil until then.

  18. "It’s not just America this time, the UN approved."

    Um, it wasn't "just America" the first time either!

    In fact when they world denounces "America" they are simply denouncing banksters and the royal bloodlines and all of the things Vigilant talks about it. And they don't even know it (although we are all becoming more awake).

  19. War is never justified, but I feel we had to do something. It's not just America this time, the UN approved. Khadafi was going to reach Benghazi and cause a massive bloodbath.

    The nigerian assassins Khadafi hired cut of the hands and feet of the rebels before they raped them. I can't be the only one who thought we were just idly waiting while these innocent people were slaughtered. Khadafi's troops are still killing the rebels on the ground, but thanks to the no fly-zone Benghazi was saved. We are on the rebels side. They are thankful.

    I don't see this as a holy war, I see this as a revolution for democracy. They just need some help.

  20. More significant is that its the time of Purim also. The holiday celebrated by Jews for revenge/victory over enemies. This demonstrates the power the Zionists have over the invading militaries and governments.

  21. These things are written, so it will happen. There's nothing no one can do to stop them. Praying is all we can do. The real WAR is about US. The kingdom of the anit-christ is forming. He's already here. Just waiting for the right time to reveal himself. We were put into bodies to chose between good and evil. God is giving you a choice. Your decision is on YOU. God said be not troubled when there is war. When there is peace is when we should worry. Although lives will be lost, it's a horrible thing, but it will happen. Sad to say, but it will happen. Nothing that is going on TODAY is new. It's not that past is repeating itself, its just that its been going on and on and on and will come to an end.

  22. As blood sacrifices happen, the sheep is listening to Born This Way. Maybe the little cretins…er little monsters should be sacrificed for their manufactured mother. If they want peace in Libya, the little monsters should be shipped there and used as cannon fodders.

    • That's cruel and unsound, to wish harm on people. Even though they are in most cases completely asleep, nobody deserves to be sacrificed. It's been a big black mark on Earth's history for long enough already. We don't need to wish that it were any worse.

    • So… you always knew the truth? And just cause you know it now, you want others to get killed before they come to know it and rid them from the chance? Don't you find your words disgusting? Well I guess you don't. Pity.

  23. All I have to say is, all the Great and Mighty kingdoms of antiquity have all but vanished from the earth. The only hint we have of their existence are the remnants of their ruins.

    All great and villainous nations must fall.

    While America thinks it's doing the world a service, we the small and little people sit on the sidelines and watch in awe as we witness it's own silent invasion. The enemy has become more stealthier, more vigilant and cunning. America's moral bank is virtually empty, the economy is hanging on by a tenuous thread, it's leaders have become more self serving, pursuing their own celebrity status on social media, corporations are more growing more sinister, more insidious by the dollar.

    The nation of America has not quite tasted devastation as the rest of the conflicted parts of the world (America is only in the beginning stages, groaning from the labour pains of a woman about to give birth) but what will they be giving birth to? seething contempt, hateful revenge? The World has revered America's ideology for centuries but alas the cracks have grown into a gulf, the whitewash is fading and revealing an ugly rot in it's facade and moral conscience.

    Nothing last forever, it's only a matter of time, the destruction of this nation will not be a military invasion, or a nuke from its one of the many powerful enemies. America's devastation is imminent and not in an apocalyptic proportions kinda way but devastating nonetheless for the American psyche.

    For a long time this country has been playing nurse maid and therapist to other countries for it's own benefit and gains and thought that nobody would notice. Look at the Persians, Babylonians and Romans of this world, where are they now?

    The rot is coming from within not from without so don't be surprised when the world depleted of all sympathy just sighs and exclaims "Did they think they were better than us?"

    "Any country that divides itself into groups which fight each other will not last very long. And any town or family that divides itself into groups which fight each other will fall apart. " – Mathew 12:25

  24. Okay, so if we pass the bullshitt about the 'almighty' West going in to save the day and get rid of this evil leader that goes by the name of Ghadafi and so on….I must say as soon as I heard the name of the operation I knew there was something fishy about that name!..It's just sick how these people can easily go murdur many innoccent lives for some pagan ritual thats been passed on from the past; whats even more sick is that WE ARE LETTING THIS HAPPEN!!!

    • @Amii

      No, you don’t let this happen. You simply have no saying in it. There’s no politics and no democracy; it’s all a society game or better said, a play.. And we are NOT the spectators. We are the janitors and the cleaning personnel.

  25. Upon the Satanic, Nazi, and Pagan ritual calendar: The Ides of March: Rites of Cybele and Attis (twelve day death and resurrection ritual), begin on the 15th of March and last till the 27th of March.

    Also Jacques De Molay Day rites and rituals (Knights Templar) are held on the 18th of March upon the ritual calendar.

    The Spring Equinox ritual is held on the 20th of March along with the ritual Invocation of Isis.

    All said information is gathered from ritual calendar of Satanic, Pagan, and Nazi rites and rituals.

  26. The date is significant in Christianity because Easter always falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the vernal equinox. It is also probably no coincidence that early Egyptians built the Great Sphinx so that it points directly toward the rising Sun on the day of the vernal equinox.

    The first day of spring also marks the beginning of Nowruz, the Persian New Year. The celebration lasts 13 days and is rooted in the 3,000-year-old tradition of Zorastrianism.

    Read more: Vernal (Spring) Equinox —

  27. @Candlelight

    Libya is 6 hours ahead of NY so it's possible the date is 3/19 in NY, but 3/20 in Libya. What time did the invasion occur?

  28. i dont understand just for the sake of this short life these people are destroying their own lives and that of others. i mean you never know when your going to die ….. gosh these people are such nutheads!!

  29. I agree that these dates are not coincidental. After all, Nancy Reagon admitted that she regularly consulted an astrologer about her husband's schedule. What more proof do we need?

  30. I didn't understand that Easter thing very well, since there's a word for Easter in every language that has nothing to do with the word 'Easter' or the names of those godesses. Or you weren't talking about the Easter holyday?

    • He's talking about them both. That's the point. That's how they came up with the name easter. It's a Pagan Holiday. It's not about hunting eggs and a easter bunny like they want you to believe. It's strictly about the Passover. So teach it to your children ( if any) what easter really represents. You can chose to celebrate it or not, just remember and know what it really stands for. One of the commandments was REMEMBER the Sabbath, and keep it Holy. God knew they would change these things, and THEY DID.

  31. All this information is very interesting but let not take our focus off of Jesus Christ.

    Mathew 24:6-8 (KJV)

    6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

    7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

    8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

    I applaud everyone on the frontlines fighting for our nation, but we need to be on the frontlines fighting for Jesus. The ones on the frontline are the ones who will be attacked first. That stands true for the natural and the spiritual world. We would not go to war in the natural without our amor so why fight a spirit war without the whole armor of God. Jesus has provided everything that we need.

    God bless!

    • Well said Blessed! Whole Armor of God: Eph 6:14-18

      10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

      11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

      12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

      13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand .

      14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

      15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

      16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

      17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

      18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

  32. Despite the system doing all it can to gain more power,am hopeful for good and righteousness and the salvation of the elect of the Almighty over the bad and wickedness of the world's elite knowing that their time is coming to an end,culminating in the Anti-Christ rule if only for a short while and afterwards the decline and total annihilation of evil till final judgement of all.The big question is,on which side will you and i (in flesh or spirit) be.

  33. This whole situation in Libya is just disgusting and is shrouded in hypocrisy.

    I don't know who the media are trying to deceive (especially in the UK) in saying that they are trying to protect the Libyan civilians. When watching a show on the BBC only 1 person tried to stand up for the truth saying that Libya firstly, is NOT in the middle east, its in AFRICA and secondly, there is a high number of dictators ruling over many different African countries who kill innocent people everyday but the UN, UK, US & Europe simply turned a blind eye….then it was said "Oh sorry I forgot, Libya is just one of the only countries in Africa with oil"

    Its funny how BP (British Petrol) has its oil bases in Libya and its also VERY FUNNY how it was previous UK prime minister Tony Blair (George Bush's lapdog) who GAVE Gaddafi all of the weapons he is supposedly using to kill so called innocent civilians who are actually armed rebels. Even more funny is how within a few hours of british air forces entering Libya they managed to "accidently" kill 64 innocent civilians. Now many more civillaians are going to be killed right under our noses and its only a matter of time till we witness the assasination of Gaddafi which is what i've been telling people since February when all the Libyan protests began.

    this whole situation is about more than just oil, this is the illuminati trying to destabalize an entire region of the world and gain full control of ALL world resources which is going to result in mass bloodshed of many innocent people in order to make way for the new world order. The illuminati are in their final satges and things are only going to get worse so pray!

    • Just keep in mind military operations are done at Zulu Time or GMT , so somebody said on VC facebook , which I´m not able to now figure the time the attack was , hope that helps

  34. I disagree with you on this one vigilant citizen. Looks like your reading too much into this. I don't think the date is relevant, the American government loves to occupy other people's countries whenever they have an opportunity.

    • At face value it may seem that way, but look deeper. There are no coincidences. As I tell people who doubt: How many coincidences have to pile up before it's not a coincidence anymore?

  35. My goodness! I love the comments 2!! It's a win, win situation. You read the article and see how others feel about it. I mean just to read words from great educated people is very refreshing! Also shows that there are many ways to look at any given story. Thanx VC!

  36. I'll admit I do not understand the vastness of politics and military exploits however…I did a superficial search on the month of March via Wikipedia (I'm citing my lame source, sorry!!). I already knew that Mars was the god of war, but again I'm amazed at the how literal this all is!

    -The name of March comes from ancient Rome, when March was the first month of the year and named Martius after Mars, the Roman god of war. In Rome, where the climate is Mediterranean, March was the first month of spring, a logical point for the beginning of the year as well as the start of the military campaign season-

    I don't like surprises, so I'm super glad I know how this story ends (spoiler-alert: God's wins!). BTW, part of what makes this site great are the comments! Love it.

    • I like the commentators as well on VC. You learn quite a bit from some of the comments. It's the sharing of all that enriches the articles and VC's contributions ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Pardon my previous typos ๐Ÿ™‚ And, I'd like someone to correct if I'm wrong, but I do think dates/numbers are relevant. Just from what I know about occult high days, etc., they are based on specific dates and the solstices and equinox(es?), solar and lunar phases, and whatever else. In addition, for goodness sake, there's a book in the bible called…Numbers!! Bravo to everyone for their continuing quest for wisdom and discernment! Virtual high-fives to all.

    • "I did a superficial search on the month of March via Wikipedia (I’m citing my lame source, sorry!!)."

      Wikipedia is far from a lame source… its invaluable in how up to date it is and citations from other sources are posted at the bottom of the page. Of course, one should have a variety of sources at their disposal but Wikipedia is actually quite good

      • Ok, you make a good point. I don’t feel like Wikipedia is the end all be all of sources, although I appreciate its contributors and the work they put in to make sure info is accurate.

  37. After reading this yesterday, I was looking for a famous person to die or some other major catastrophe to occur. Dont know if im reading into this too much, but souja boys brother died yesterday in a car crash. I know he, (soulja boy) is a part whole illuminati agenda. Do you think it might have been a sacrifice. The wreck apparently occurred in Charleston, MS a city in North Central Mississippi most known as “Gateway to the Delta.” If anybody has information on this term , please shed some light. Ill be doing some research myself..please reply??? Big up Jamaica RAAASTAFARI!

    Original Story:

    • I've noticed that anything referring to the 'Delta' usually involves Egyptian mystery religion, as the Nile Delta is the flood plain area surrounding the river and thus the center of Egyptian culture. It might also be a reference to Delta programming in MK Ultra, which seems likely for an artist named 'Soulja (Soldier) Boy.'

      "Delta programming is the primary programming for the Military Ruling Class." –

      • We meet again friend…

        Let us continue where we left off then?

        Delta wave programming is essential to understanding our own chemical undoing. This is the nature of our brains to operate in alpha, beta, theta, and delta frequency waves. Energize me? I think it's been a while since we all have written in mental calligraphy. Let's course these papers again, look at what they said, controlling the personalities with changes within, hmm where was I? I think this requires meditating or "eye-in-g" what's under our skin.

        Look to see what is a delta change of your frequency, you look to the tv and see a message, and you think… say its something good, well good for you? Now you see something bad, isn't that too bad? What is that? A delta change? See where I am going with this? I'll digress for a moment just to show you why you have no internal bliss, its calling programmed already by your "alternates" medicine.

        Brain wave frequencies are always operating and never stop, and these frequencies are alchemically changed within your "spinal trees". Ventricles altered by liquid decibels, radio waves to your visible spectrum infrared, remote controlling your heat "methodically", mon amie.

        Circle of Willis, we meet again, bloody pen, write my memories, and don't bury me with your next of kin.

        Hmm, what does this mean in the end? That control your mental pens and write with all your emotional inks, because thats how they paint your confinement. Understand what I mean, because you are caught in the butterfly effect, and this chaos theory courses between you and me, and its controlled… imagine that "Be?"

        Where were we? Delta changes, right, so where were we? Flight or fright? I think I'll air myself to control the Mind. Program this friends, these delta changes are happening, and you are all living it without realizing…

        Look to your towers and see what I mean, look to your satellite and see the Tesla configuring, give him props and tell him Kudos, because he wanted peace. He didn't want your frequencies energized for the "Illuminati", and by that I mean those controlling both the "positive/negative" frequency.

        So if you want the control, learn to control yourself.

        Pen is yours, go ahead and write your book.


  38. The middle east is bit by bit being taken over for N.W.O. control, im very surpised Iran has not been attacked yet and once israel is done with palastine i can see them joining in on this crusade of death. and so much for the U.N. or any other supposed peace force, peace for those who pay or submit to the will of the west more like. in my opinion the world is in full de-population mode and has been for some time now. i do not believe population is rising just the opposite in fact, the problem is population is condensing in certain places giving the illusion of population increase and crowded living. i just hope i live long enough to see the current system of goverments destroyed and a peaceful world community established. We have no need for WMD's or war the poeple in charge are off there 'effing heads and truly are very sick and twisted. they look down on us and say we dont understand. well i say to them its you who do not understand what you do to our mother earth and her children.

    we need to start rebelling and protesting and calling for an end to our leaders, goverments and the monatary system, fu*k the rich lets make them equal for once in mankinds history, take there power and share it amoung all upon earth.

    revolution must not contain violence for once it does we become no better and will end up becoming the same as them!

  39. German war propaganda:,1518,…,151

    They are trying to change people´s perception about going into war, same as WWII.

    we are living a joke man..

    and this is an article I translated from another source ,

    regards guys , we gotta all get toghether about everything ´s going , spread the news or whatever , only we can change it for a clearer future

  40. Pretty much the past has been repeating itself cocnstantly since the fall of babylon, and its about time we finally take a stand against the demons and beat them back for good.

  41. Thanks again VC. I knew something about the whole thing wasn't right but you nailed it.

    Homer, Odyssey 5. 1 ff : "The goddess Eos (Dawn), who had slept beside Lord Tithonos, was rising now to bring light to immortals and to mortals." …

    The dawn goddess, Eos (Greek Goddess) with "rosy fingers" opened the gates of heaven so that Helios (Sun), her brother, could ride his chariot across the sky every day.

    Ishtar is the Assyrian and Babylonian goddess of fertility, love, war, and sex. Besides the lions on her gate, her symbol is an eight pointed star. Ishtar ruled the moon. On the 19 March 2011 there was a huge moon, the moon was very close to earth.

    We figured out the facts.

    • I'm kinda slow. The Odyssey Dawn means some kind of spiritual journey that starts from this operation? Or is it maybe the journey to one of these young, raising yet hostile countries? Both guesses are kinda obvious so I'm guessing they're both wrong.

      • Sounds about right to me… Space Shuttle "Endeavour" set to launch on April 19th, a high occult holiday associated with blood sacrifice.

      • What I don't get is why everyone so nervous about it. The fact that the westerners could wait until the march 20th and the fact they treat their dangerous missions simply as "journeys" means they aren't completely insane after all. They don't name them "Crusade" or "Vendetta" or anything like that. So, the question I'm trying to ask is, how can I discern decent people from dictators, traitors and murderers – not in action or words, because it's ease to fake both – but in the way they feel, and I'm not sure how to say it, in the speed of how they think? If I don't know a person, but I know that he or she is kinda nervous most of the time, but kind of relaxed even spiritual when they have to actually do something, should I expect them to be a life-saver or a killer? Is there a line between right and wrong not in actions, but in thoughts and feelings? I mean I hope there is, but I'm not sure where to draw it.

  42. Saddam Hussein was a murderer, so is Kaddafi, whether you believe the wars to be just or not he is a war criminal. That has nothing to do with the Illuminati.

    • So Saddam was a murderer? Now let me ask you this, I assume u live in the west and believe in justice and obey the law to some extent, did you watch the trial of Saddam Hussein? If not then there's really no point of you making this ridiculous comment. As for Qaddafi he has just proven now to be a murderer (the ordering of killing in the last 2 weeks) and has not done so in the past. The real war criminals here are the provoking, attacking and invading goverment. I think you know who I'm referring to.

      • Ahh, people just love their propaganda.

        Then explain this:

        2004 March – British Prime Minister Tony Blair visits, the first such visit since 1943.

        2006 May – The US says it is restoring full diplomatic ties with Libya.

        2008 January – Libya takes over one-month rotating presidency of the UN Security Council in a step back to respectability after decades as a pariah of the West.

        2008 September – US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice makes historic visit – the highest-level US visit to Libya since 1953. Ms Rice says relations between the US and Libya have entered a "new phase".

        What happens next is probably the most significant in our decision to bomb:

        2010 January – Russia agrees to sell Libya weapons in a deal worth $1.8bn. The deal is thought to include fighter jets, tanks and air defence systems.

        *Timeline per BBC News:

      • How can I make this simple for you?

        You see, the U.S. and the U.N. were well aware of Gaddafi's nefarious activities, in all their manifestations, for decades and yet still chose to foster pleasant relations with him in the last two administrations… up until recently.

        The U.S., Britain and Italy have all cozied up to Gaddafi AFTER the Pan Am bombings.

        And then of coarse there's that whole novel concept of national sovereignty and all that trivial stuff.

      • I was actually alive in 88 lol. Come on didnt u get the point? Qaddafi's profile is now suddenly all over the news etc. He committed crimes before but where was the media then?

    • That's exactly the way I feel. I don't see any single reason why I have to see problems of either American government or Lybian Government as my own problems. Or any Europian government. I mean of course it's a shame that everyday normal people have to pay for it. But at the end of the day, it's just a bunch of dictators doing the damage to the bunch of other dictators. I don't feel nothing, at all.

    • History teaches us that there are many murderers. Who ultimately suffers for these wars though is innocent people. Is it right to kill many innocents for the crimes of one mad man?

      I am sure people could say the same about Americans and George Bush, Ronal Reagam. Richard Nixon, or Haryy Truman and FDR.

      Don't exclude people from this world insanity we live in. If you are going to place blame, place blame on us all.

    • Trace, this has everything to do with the Illuminati. Saddam Hussein and Khadafi were both pawns that were PLACED THERE BY THE ILLUMINATI IN THE FIRST PLACE. These dictator pawns are not needed anymore so they are disposed of in a big ritualistic massacre.

      • Interesting that these pawns (dictators) in the middle east some of which have been around 40 years or so were all tolerated. Now in a few orchestrated moves the entire Western world is ready to clear it out altogether (the new age is here and the old pawns no longer serve the new age function).

        All this is for globalization is restructuring. The same with the economic collapse around the world. Also right now are the players choosing which sides of the coin they will be on for WW3, the trade and currency wars have already begun like pre WW2 and the next move is to get everyone in the globe involved. The Synchronicity of the events is why things are beyond coincidence.

    • thank-you i also agree i personally dont agree with the fact that Iraq had to be a war place but you shouldnt have people like that int the world end of .:)

    • not so fast Abdul. Not JUST for Libya. They are after all the Muslim countries in the Middle East. By the way as people are busy watching the war in Libya and the earthquake victims in Japan a bomb exploded in Jerusalem today. Just in time for a new Tzahal quickie in Gaza…

    • And this too….

      March 19, 2003

      * U.S. begins military strikes in Iraq, which many consider the beginning of the Iraq War

  43. I was born on Solstice Eve…would explain a few things about my mind-set (always a bit down, have occasionally been depressed, and have been this way since a child)

  44. Absolutely superb site, concisely written and you are doing a fantastic job here.

    Funny how the US/Brits talk about brutality and oppression in the middle east yet forget Israel, the Zionist Illuminist state and their attrocities against Palestinian civilians. They too have bombarded Gaza as part of their bloodletting ritual of what they term "goyim".

    People should never make the mistake that the UN and the coalition forces are helping Libyan citzens and the innocents. They took time to take this action, they want to plunge the country to hell and bloodlet as much as they can.

    But the tide is turning against these satanists…the first battle is against ignorance and raising awareness which this brilliant site does. Well done Vigilant Citizen.

  45. Another name for Ishtar or Easter among the 'enlightened' gnostics is Shekinah. This feminine manifestation of 'god' was developed by the Khabbalist (mystic pagan) Jews in Babylonian captivity. Another coincidence for you…The battle plan launched March 20th, 2003 was called Shekinah…pronounced, Shock-N-Awe.

  46. Good article as usual… funny, as I was watching some of the attack footage on the news last night.. even before I knew the facts.. it so reminded me of the Iraq attack..I was thinking, 'Here we go again..' History repeats itself over and over again.. until we learn I guess.. check this article out.. along the same lines… describes the meaning of the name of the attack in detail..

  47. VC you always end strong. When reading sometimes it's like eh ah idk, and when you get to the end " Operation Odyssey Dawn " it's like o_O. The benefit of doubt is never there and that I do find strange !

  48. lets be real here im a big supporter of conspiracy theories and i believe in the occult;t and whatnot and i know that they're out there but THIS IS NOT AN INVASION IN LIBYA i am Libyan and they are not invading Libya in any way whatsoever its just a no-fly zone and yes its kinda interesting that the dates "match up " but its not an invasion for it to match up in t6he first place until the military comes in thats what you can call an invasion and then match it up to whatever. i am Libyan and i have followed every single order and decision and everything please don't just start assuming things…..

    • Your message seems very "interesting" to me. The way you write seems like a perfect balance of getting the point across, and that is nothing to do with you. I am going to go ahead and apologize that I am "not" wrong, but I'd just like to point out your message structure. Then again, could I be wrong even though we know "they" are out there to make sure to disseminate your message? Wait… what?

      Hmm, I don't understand the structure of your run on sentence, and I'm not trying to say that your English is bad or that everyone should "right" correctly, write? The point is that your message just seems very "interesting" to me… As if to say, you are not one of "us".

      What is us? What are you? For example, conspiracy theorist or not, for you to be Libyan, you show no emotion on what is happening, other to illustrate the fact; "THIS IS NOT AN INVASION"…

      Interesting for a Libyan, you offer no more insight other than that, seems almost "unhuman" to me. However, knowing humans you seem to know that the first part and the last part of the message is what we mostly remember, so again your message seems interesting to me. Plus the caps in the middle that draw my attention to that part of the message as well. See where I am going with this?

      "Tamer"… I mean "Tamee"… Let's talk as if you are who you say you are, because I will most likely get flamed for this, but I'd like to make my point just like you, you should stop assuming things right?

      I don't think they just "started", they have evidence supporting this, just like you have with your "following every decision and order"…

      Then again… this is just one of my pennies, and you have your two cents, let's just cash this in like a thought experiment.

      Don't worry about tracking me, I'm right here…

      • Thank you for your support, and I was hesitant to even say any of what I stated. I am usually rational when it comes to this line of "thinking", but this one struck me as quite odd.

        Again Mr./Ms. Tamee my good conscience will not let me go without saying that if you are truly who you say you are, I apologize…

        Regardless, if I have had people understand even a bit of how "governments" work (through Neurolinguistics/semantics/language of Babel/etc), then hopefully this will all come to fruition one day. I have been personally "vandalized" before to an extent by "outsider" actions (physically and my 'tracked' presence), and I know the seriousness of "opening" up.

        This is why I wrote the response to "Tamee's" message, because this individual is not the only one. If I was to write a response to others that are spreading how "~B" pointed out (thank you for the link) are spreading their "agenda" or to "dilute" our own thinking, then you would be reading my comments way too often, so to speak.

        Take care of yourself and be open to the "Closers". They want you to be an open and shut case…

      • oh please i believe something fishy is happening out there in the world but this, to me doesnt seem anything like the iraq WAR.

      • oh please i believe something fishy is happening out there in the world but this, to me doesnt seem anything like the iraq WAR. anyhow believe what you want to believe about me

      • see i don't need to write in codes and i do not have time to write in codes. I don't sit there and WRITE in codes. as far as i understood from what you said.

        Im British with a Libyan background from both parents i have family that were killed in the last few weeks. because of the bombing and killing of the dictator clonal Gadaffi. This isn't an invasion like Iraq as it was thought through and all Arab countries voted for the No-Fly zone and you have an Arab country Qatar involved in this it isn't just America, Britain and France that are involved its a lot of countries. The no fly zone hasn't killed any Innocent civilians or anyone in fact, all it has done is help the people of Libya to finally get some say as to what they want and they need as human beings and to finally have their human rights.

        If you have been watching the news i personally watch al jazeera and i had times were i could contact people live where they told me what was happening (so this isn't all lies and staged by the governments news corporation) then you would have seen the horrors that were happening and still are at this moment in time.

        Also i don't feel like i have to sit there and type a structured essay that is in every way grammatically correct so that you or anyone can be satisfied i also feel that when i want to WRITE something or express my opinions i dont have to sit there and make sure that everything was perfectly done.

        I also speak perfect English. (just for the info)

        This whole situation wont turn into Iraq reason being the whole world is paying attention to everything and it wont get to that.


      • Alright…

        I'll go ahead and say again that I could be completely wrong, and I never said I was absolutely right.

        However, as I made my point before, when one jumps to a conclusion too hastily, they will lose sight of the steps in between.

        For the deaths you have "experienced", I am sorry that you have been on the brunt end of that stick. If you have been watching Al Jazeera, then you are aware of another source of controlled information, just like I am. I have "vested interests" globally, which you may call family/friends, and I make sure to know things on all "chords".

        I have seen your type of messages before in other forums and well… I have a cautious eye when it comes to these things. There are many errors within your message again, but that's just me getting into the semantics of it again.

        So, I'll just bring the point of this article that you seem to have missed (even in your first post).

        This article has to do with the vernal equinox, the rituals, the pagan/esoteric facts tied within, and the "connections" between these days throughout history. There was no real mention of this becoming the next Iraq war, which you bring up more than once. Nor is this about the "atrocities" of war itself…

        The point of these articles are for "looking from beyond", and I'm glad to have exchanged these views with you. The reason being because for every "thumbs up" you and I both received, we helped someone think outside the box for the duration of the message.

        For that… thank you.

  49. I'm surprised to see that VC has posted a mini article bout this as I didnt expect him to care much bout the events in the Middle East/North Africa. But, well done! I had no idea bout the 'occult' days but its an interesting date and info.

    In order for the Middle East to be 'reshaped' (as Bush said in the past 'we must reshape the M.E.') they must invade one by one. God knows who started all this "revolution" crap but its as u can see NOT working for any "freed" country so far.

    This is the best opportunity for the 'illuminati', or whoever the big boss is, to invade and clear the middle eastern areas once and for all. Islam is probably their biggest threat if not all religions. Russia's prime minister called this decision as 'unacceptable' and 'calls for crusades' as he criticised the 1973 UN resolution.

    And guys one last thing, lets not forget the oil in Libya!

    • Keep in mind that it's the UN that wants a no fly zone imposed and if there are going to be any troops on the ground it will be from the UN, UK, and France. Libya only has 2% of the worlds oil. "Just a drop in the bucket." People just want to be free from a tyrannical and oppressive dictator. When the US went into Iraq everyone said it was for the oil but we haven't taken any of it. The Iraqi government was allowed to sell oil to anyone they wanted to sell it to in order to get needed food and supplies for the people.

      • And since when did anyone give a crap bout the UN?I know the US dont. The UN is one of the biggest jokes in modern history. Libya ONLY has 2% LOL?! Drop in the bucket? LOL! Libya has just over 3% of the worlds oil and its considered a lot mate.If Saudi is no 1 reserve Libya is no 9 according to the CIA.Funny thing with this list (10 richest oil countries) is that the U.S. has control of most countries; Saudi, Canada, Iraq, Kuwait, UAE, Nigeria and now Libya isnt that sweet?!The remaining resistants are Iran, Venezuela and of course Russia who's their biggest enemy lol. Iran is just on the edge and Venezuela will follow in the future. Its all bout money, power and bloodshed. Its always been!

        Do you even know whats going on in Iraq right now? Its worser than hell. Its chaotic. And how do u know that the U.S. is not milking Iraq? The regime in Iraq has no power over anyone. Its just sitting there pretending to act like a goverment while in reality its all just a big lie. The goverment is so corrupt ppl now reminisce Saddam. I know many people who live there.

        Stop being naive.

  50. Furthermore it is the jewish holyday "Purim", celebrated in rememberence of the revolt against Persia when 75 000 Persians where killed.

  51. NATO bombing of Serbia started on March 24, in 1999.

    The four days delay was probably due to waiting for the approval of the UN… which they never got, but carried on with the attacks anyway.

    That operation was called "Operation Noble Anvil"

  52. It's just "humanitarian" bombing, so no worries, right?

    This is insane and illegal meddling in the affairs of a sovereign nation – the UN has no authority to decide which nations can suddenly be attacked, even for murdering their own citizens. If this was the real issue, it should have been done hundreds of times now in places like China, North Korea, Syria…too many places to name, including the United States, btw.

    If you accept the premise that the UN, EU or "World Court" can decide what individual sovereign nations must do to "comply" with them, then you have just accepted world government in your mind. We don't elect our representatives to the UN, and therefore have no voice whatsoever – it is all a lie.

    The biggest lie of our time – the "New World Order".

    I am no fan of Libya or Gaddafi in any way, but please don't fall for this "world community" bullshit.

    • Hey LVB – really good article on this btw!!! I posted the link to it this morning (up above) and hope you don't mind ๐Ÿ™‚

      I was very moved last night when I read it……sympathy, sorrow, horror…… turning to anger and pretty much just trying to contain my lil self that Vengence is His!!

      Thanks again!!!!

  53. Please note that this action by the USA, Britain, France and the UN is evil and without proper cause. Why did they not enforce a no-fly zone over Iran when it had the uprising and supposed slaughter against it people? CNN reported that Libya was not able to use its army to suppress its people like Egypt did because it's army wasn't strong enough.

    1. Why then would all these powerfuly countries go up against a countries with a weak army?

    2. Why are we not getting tweets and such from citizens on the ground like they did in Iran

    and Egypt?

    3. If they are helping rebels to fight against Gaddahfi, then why are we not seeing reporters

    embedded with these soldiers so the world can see what they are doing?

    This is an evil that is being allowed to take place and we the citizens of the world are doing nothing about it. How can we utilize social media to gather support from around the world and launch a massive demonstration? I do wish we could all be in this thing together!!!!

    Which country do you think is next on the agenda for them???

  54. Arab countries made a huge mistake for inviting the devil into Libya by approving the no-fly zone…which they now regret.

    Propoganada @ its finest today…articles on BBC & CNN that read like : Gaddafi compound attacked….but Gaddafi not targeted – i just had to laugh at this today…but its not that funny.. they think we are all stupid.

    Gaddafi needed to be stopped though…i just dont like the way Western Forces are going about it…Gaddafi invited international observers a week or two ago …from there Arab countries should of stepped up and observed and acted accordingly by demanding a ceasefire and threatening a joint arab attack on Gaddafi and his forces if further attacks on civilians continued>>>But Arab governments are weak at the moment and not in a stable state themselves ..with many threatend with revolutions.

    I pray for the people of Libya and Bahrain where a sectarian civil war seems to be unfolding.

    • Don't be too sure…

      The West wins the Cold War, whole nations pop up that are Islamic.

      The West dismember Yugoslavia, and Serbia ends up landlocked (the Muslims get the sea access).

      The West dismember Ethiopia, another Christian empire loses sea access to the Muslims.

      The West conquer Iraq, the Chaldean Christians there are being killed off by Jihad.

      Now that the West is knocking out Qaddafi in Libya, will that land become the jumping point for the conquering of Rome? Will France eventually sue to become a colony of Algeria?

  55. March 19 is the birthdate of Minerva (re-establishment of her temple) and also this is the date of Purim this year, the festival commemorating the deliverance of the Jewish people in the ancient Persian Empire from destruction in the wake of a plot by Haman, a story recorded in the Biblical Book of Esther (Megillat Esther). After the Jewish people were delivered they slaughtered the Persians who had oppressed them

  56. Oh, I also wanted to mention that Eos was one of the Titan gods that Hesiod says were impressed by the Olympians. The homecoming of Eos is the destruction of the Olympian rule – and the return to post patriarchies, blood sacrifices and blood vegences. Seriously disturbing.

  57. This reminds me of the prophecies about the end times that are just before the establishment of the world government. Jesus said kingdom would rise against kingdom, in a struggle for the right to rule within a nation, just like Egypt and now Libya and Saudi Arabia. Jesus also said nation would rise against nation and now we (US) are at war with Libya. He even said there will be great earthquakes in diverse places, look at the huge earthquakes the world has been experiencing! The earthquakes are causing things like tsunamis and radiation that cause famine and pestilence. Jesus said famine and pestilence would be coming with the great earthquakes and now look at what is happening in Japan. Their food is being tested for radiation because of the great earthquake.

    Everything is falling into place just before the establishment of world government, just like Jesus warned:

    “Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.”

    Luke 21:10-11


    • Interesting thing Luke: in the scripture saying "nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom," the Greek word used is actually "ethnos," which can mean ethnic uprisings; for example, Arabs going up against Arabs, as all over the Middle East right now. Does that hit home, or what? Our God is truly great!

      Grace and peace, brother.

      • You guys should take a look at

        I am subscribed to their free magazine and I got one the other day that fascinatingly speaks of all that is happening and prophesies on whats to come next. They base their predictions on bible scripture and come up with understandings that I wouldn't come to right away but they have been amazingly correct almost all the time.

        Herbert W. Armstrong started the Church Of God a long time ago which is now the Philadelphia Church of God and he passed away in the 80's I believe. He wrote many books (which they also distribute for free) on prophecy and such and he has been very correct still to this day about things he didn't even live to see play out.

        Watch out for Germany's eventual part in all the grand scheme of things!

    • Also remember that in these times we are told that "men will be lovers of themselves rather than God".

      Look around.

      And, no, I don't think this is referencing homosexuality, but more to the obvious and clear signs of our times in that people are so vain and care only about themselves, their ways, their wants and desires, and almost never about helping or loving a fellow man, woman or child that is in trouble, spiritually or otherwise.

      You know that whole "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" thing?

      Well, He srsly did meant that part….for reals. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • men will be lovers of themselves rather than God. perhaps this is a reference to modern day celebrities ? look at how they are worshipped by the media and the majority of people.

    • 50 Signs of the Day of Judgment

      50 Signs of the Day of Judgment From the Words of Allah and His Messenger (sallallahu `alaihi wa sallam)

      Dr. Suhaib Hasan

      From a lecture at Cambridge University

      Islamic Society, Shawwal 1420 / January 2000.

      The Signs are listed in roughly chronological order, although the order is not necessarily precise, especially for those in the future.

      This is a brief summary of the signs; there are many books, articles, cassettes etc. which discuss these in greater detail. May Allah enable us to recognise and heed the Signs, and strengthen us in the times of tribulation.

      "Are they waiting for anything except the Hour, to come to them suddenly? But its Signs have already come!" (Al-Qur’an, Surah Muhammad)


      1. Splitting of the Moon.

      2. Death of the Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace.

      3. A form of death which will kill thousands of Muslims. (Understood to refer to the plague of Amwas during the

      caliphate of ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab.)

      4. A major fighting in Madinah (understood to refer to the battle of al-Harrah during the caliphate of Yazid, 63 AH).

      5. The Muslim conquest of Jerusalem.

      6. The Muslim conquest of Constantinople.

      7. Two large groups of Muslims will fight in war.

      8. A war between the Muslims and a reddish people with small eyes, wearing sandals made of hair (understood to refer to

      the Mongol Tatar invasion of the Islamic lands.)

      9. A peace agreement between the Muslims and non-Muslims from the yellow race (Chinese, Mongols, etc.)

      10. Thirty impostors (dajjal) will appear, each thinking he is a prophet.


      11. Naked, destitute, barefoot shepherds will compete in building tall buildings.

      12. The slave-woman will give birth to her master or mistress.

      13. A trial (fitnah) which will enter every Arab household.

      14. Knowledge will be taken away (by the death of people of knowledge), and ignorance will prevail.

      15. Wine (intoxicants, alcohol) will be drunk in great quantities.

      16. Illegal sexual intercourse will become widespread.

      17. Earthquakes will increase.

      18. Time will pass more quickly.

      19. Tribulations (fitan) will prevail.

      20. Bloodshed will increase.

      21. A man will pass by the grave of another and wish he was in the latter’s place.

      22. Trustworthiness will be lost, i.e. when authority is given to those who do not deserve it.

      23. People will gather for prayer, but will be unable to find an imam to lead them.


      24. The number of men will decrease, whilst the number of women will increase, until for every man there are 50 women.

      25. The Euphrates will reveal a treasure of gold, and many will die fighting over it, each one hoping to be the one who gains

      the treasure.

      26. The Romans (Europeans) will come to a place called A’maq or Wabiq, and an army of the best people will go forth from Madinah to face them.

      27. The Muslim conquest of Rome.

      28. The Mahdi (guided one) will appear, and be the Imam of the Muslims.

      29. Jesus Christ will descend in Damascus, and pray behind the Mahdi.

      30. Jesus will break the cross and kill the swine, i.e. destroy the false christianity.

      31. The Antichrist (al-masih al-dajjal, the false christ) will appear, with all his tools of deception, and be an immense trial. He will be followed by 70,000 Jews from Isfahan (present-day Iran).

      32. The appearance of Ya’juj and Ma’juj (Gog and Magog), and the associated tribulations.

      33. The emergence of the Beast from the Earth, carrying the Staff of Moses and the Seal of Solomon, who will speak to the people, telling them they did not believe with certainty in the Divine Signs.

      34. A major war between the Muslims (including Jews and Christians who truly believe in Jesus after his return) led by the Imam Mahdi, and the Jews plus other non-Muslims led by the Antichrist.

      35. Jesus will kill the Antichrist at the gate of Ludd (Lod in present-day Israel, site of an airport and a major Israeli military base).

      36. A time of great peace and serenity during and after the remaining lifetime of Jesus.

      37. Wealth will come so abundant that it will become difficult to find someone to accept charity.

      38. Arabia will become a land of gardens and rivers.

      39. Society will then decay.

      40. The buttocks of the women of the tribe of Daws will again sway in circumambulation (tawaf) around the idol Dhul-Khulsah.

      41. A great fire in the Hijaz, seen by the inhabitants of Busra.

      42. Three major armies will sink into the earth: one in the east, one in the west, one in Arabia.

      43. An Abyssinian leader with thin shins will destroy the Ka’bah.

      44. The huge cloud of smoke.

      45. The sun will rise from the west (its place of setting).

      46. A gentle wind which will take the souls of the believers.

      47. There is no-one left on the earth saying, "Allah, Allah" or "There is no god except Allah."

      48. Eventually the Day of Judgment is established upon the worst of the people, who copulate like donkeys in public.

      49. The blowing in the Trumpet by the Angel Israfil, upon which everyone will faint except as Allah wills.

      50. The second blowing in the Trumpet, upon which everyone will be resurrected.

  58. Operation Odyssey Dawn. "Dawn" or "Eos" (thus, Ishtar, also spelled, “Eostre") is what Homer many times refers to as "rosy-fingered dawn". She had an "insatiable" desire for young boys. She consumed them as sacrifice no doubt. Who knows if "rosy fingered" also referred to being blood-soaked. Odyssey – well, I think of the most famous Odyssey, which is Homer's Odyssey. In Homer, Eos' son, Memnon, was killed in the Trojan war. This Odyssey Dawn could refer to HER homecoming, thus her revenge. This would be intriguing because was NOT an active goddess in Homer – she was a Titan and was for the most part a "dead" god, just like Odysseus was thought of as being dead to his homeland, until he return. The Odyssey of Dawn, is the home coming of dawn and a return (re-instatement) of her power and glory amongst the people. The homecoming of the goddess, the blood soaked goddess.

    • Along those lines Stacey, some believe that the Titans were actually Nephilim, the unholy offspring of humans and fallen angels. Sounds weird, but Jesus DID say the end times would be like the days of Noah, and the Bible says there were fallen angel/human hybrid offspring walking the Earth during the days of Noah. Furthermore, Goliath was also Nephilim, and that time was well after the flood. So what if….they're baaaack?

      Personally, I don't have a clue how exactly the end times will play out, I only have the overview and outcome as presented in scripture, but I'm not willing to rule anything out at this point. It was also written that in the end times there would be earthquakes (e.g., Japan, New Zealand, etc.), disturbances in the oceans (e.g., tsunamis in Japan, flooding in Australia, etc.), wars and rumors of wars (e.g., Middle East, etc.), and these things have only been getting worse.

      According to prophecy, the return of Eos could be just as valid an outcome as lots of other things.

      You're right Stacey – very disturbing.

  59. To be honest, dates don't matter, I know there is a God who shall prevail in His time, the Devil is a liar and shall be defeated, we must watch and pray at all times. I encourage one another to pray for Libya.

    • Dates matter if you look at how energy flows inter-dimensionally, especially since we all live in this matrix. However, once we leave the concept of time behind us and stop following this antiquated calendar and go back to the seasonal biorythms we suppose to be following in the first place, then they will cease to have a control over us.

  60. What the frak! I just got chills.

    Matthew 24:6-8 this has probably been quoted several times, but I think is so relevant. All of these things MUST happen, but don't be dismayed! It will be interesting to see what happens April 19th.

    I am continually astonished by massive scale of these rituals (throughout history). Nimrod (sun god) and Semiramis (Ishtar) have been fascinating figures to study in relation to these topics.

    Thank you VC for your timely articles! Love the site!

  61. I'm worried about the shuttle launch on 4/19! It's the last launch & will be seen by a lot of people. Congresswoman Giffords is supposed to be there for her first public appearance since being shot in the head to watch her husband fly the shuttle for it's last time. Remember the date-04/19. That's a blood sacrifice day for the elite as well!

    • I am sure it would be symbolic. 4/19 is one day from Hitler's birthday (I think), and plus their suppose to be a British Royal Wedding that day.

      It would pretty much will be the crux and blessing to continue on with the destruction and blessing this year.

  62. @VC: America has not "Invaded" Libya so this article is completely moot. The UN security resolution 1973 (Full text can be found at this link: ) in essence states that UN security forces can use any means necessary short of an invasion to protect Libyan citizens. At the moment this is taking the form of air/missile strikes on Colonel Gaddafi's forces and the imposition of a no-fly zone. No ground invasion has taken place! An invasion is the "entrance of an armed force into a territory to CONQUER" you cannot conquer a country with fast jets you can only dominate its airspace.

    @Kenthor: I would draw your attention to the first line of your quote "In the spring of the year, the time when kings go out to battle." Traditionally spring has been the season to conduct warfare as in past times it was too cold for soldiers to operate in winter's adverse conditions. However as modern armies are trained and equipped for winter warfare I very much doubt the timing of this event had anything to do with the season, it probably had much more to do with the date the UN passed the security resolution.

    • It is still an attack that resulted in bloodshed, even if you wont see any blood on CNN. Go away and take your rationalization and disinformation with you.

    • Likewise, there was absolutely no killing of innocent civilians, it was simply collateral damage so its even more moot right?

      Feeble semantic reasoning.

    • What are you saying? That the UN only just now concluded that Libya was run by a psychotic dictator? Where were they back in…oh, I don't know…1969 when Qaddafi came to power? They wait 40+ years and THEN decide that he's a bad guy? The vernal equinox thing was totally coincidental? Oh, please.

      Dude, I know it seems incredible…it seemed incredible to me too at first…but the men who are *really* in charge of world governments (at the moment) actually ARE Satan-worshiping occultists.

      Sadly for them, God is the one is charge, and He will punish them via their own idiocy. Letting the Brotherhood take over the Middle East will only result in a new caliphate, which will be volatile and unpredictable. Furthermore, as stated in prophecy, the rich and powerful, as well as the poor and weak, will be begging the rocks and mountains to fall on them to hide them from the day of the Lord's wrath. A rich, powerful guy bleeds to death same as the poor guy.

    • Invasion and perhaps occupation may follow, despite official denials. Air/missile strikes ? This is just the beginning !!!

    • There are in a desert near the warm mediterranean. The weather doesn't really have anything to do with what time they choose to attack.

      Plus, this goes beyond issue a no fly zone for the safety of the libya people, because Libya has already declared that they were in a state of civil war. The U.N. not suppose to get involved in civil wars, only international ones. And you can't say it is a humanitarian misssion, because the rebels are armed.

      It would be diffferent, if say it was DAFUR, and Khadafi was waging an ethnic cleansing camapign. Shooting missles however at someone just because you don't like them though, is an act of aggression.

      And in reality we are there to keep oil prices up during the summer, so we can continue the bankrupting of the U.S. and European Nations. There is nothing "humanitarian" or reasonable about this. If Khadifi was left to his own devices, he would have had this campaign over by the end of the month and oil prices would have had no excuse but to come down.

  63. Makes sense. In south Africa we celebrate human rights day on the 21st of march. To commemorate the sharpeville massacre which happened on the 21st of march 1960. A peaceful protest march against apartheid became a bloodbath. Hundreds lost their lives.

  64. and so it begins. This is a way to establish U.N troops in north africa and across the middle east under the guise of "peace keepers". Now the next step will be for one of the muslim nations (perhaps gaddaffi) to attack israel and provoke them into retaliation. This will then result in the arab nations banding together to fight the west (we invaded their nations so they do have a point). This will result in forces from the east (iran, iraq, afghanistan) pushing the west back forces from the west (northern africa) will push as well with turkey from the north and saudi arabia pushing as well. This is highly significant as the final battle will take place in the valley of megiddo ( as mentioned in revelations) roughly translated this means armegeddon. The end times. This war will not end in a few years it will be decades. Perhaps we wont see the end in our lifetime, but it is upon us.

    • Actually, I was thinking that since we know from Isaiah that Damascus will be utterly destroyed, and since we know that Syria is not part of the Gog/Magog war, maybe Israel will end up attacking and destroying Syria, which is the home base for most, if not all, Islamic jihad clubs.

      In fact, I was wondering if Syria launches an attack on Israel…not the 50 mortars that didn't hit anything on Saturday, but a *real* attack…and Israel uses its "Samson Response," i.e., a nuke that destroys Syria. Then, the rest of the Islamic Coalition takes that opportunity to march against Israel.

      After all, at some point, prophecy states that "Jacob is thinned" (i.e., lots of people die) and her "fortresses are decimated" (i.e., her military destroyed). What if, at that point, the Gog army marches against Israel, she realizes she's in deep trouble and in a hopeless situation, so calls upon her God, and He hears her and saves her?

      Just saying.

      We could be very, very close to the end.

      • " which is the home base for most, if not all, Islamic jihad clubs."

        omg, I'm I the only Muslim here who thinks this comment is hilarious? Please folks, especially Christians out there, don't use terms that you don't understand or talk about a religion you clearly don't know much about it.

  65. MARCH 19, 2011

    OBAMA: 'Today we are part of a broad coalition. We are answering the calls of a threatened people. And we are acting in the interests of the United States and the world'…

    MARCH 19, 2003

    BUSH: 'American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger'…

    • Beat me to the punch, Cons19. I was going to quote these same statements.

      VC said, "Are we looking at another mega-ritual?" I say, "Oh my, yes, thank you for noticing!" And yesterday I saw headlines to the effect of "Europe Scratching Their Heads at Obama Action" and stuff like that. A bunch of people going, "What the?"

      Ah yes, spring…the vernal equinox. When an illuminati's thoughts turn to murder, death and havoc. ๐Ÿ™‚

      p.s. Also, regarding the Carl Jung quote: Christ wasn't sacrificed on the vernal equinox; what a half-wit! Jung must've been thinking of the budding of the stuff he was smoking.

  66. This is just the beginning, invading libya will pave the way for amother world war, therefore pushing the elites agenda for the n.w.o. to occur and mass killing to keep the population n.w.o friendly

    Brace yourselves…

  67. This is a crime. It is important to make the connection between Operation Odyssey Dawn and the events that occurred in 1985 concerning Emmett Brown. He was commissioned to build a doomsday device for the Libyans. He in turn gave them a fake bomb with used pinball machine parts and thus saved our Transversive World. The Libyans have been plotting ever since, and now they must be stopped. We can see this is a crime.

    We will learn to see the Michrotron.

    We will learn to see the Michrotron.


  68. that picture gives me the chills.

    it fits that this would be a ritual. it's hard to not feel like things are more than a coincidence.

    though i wish we'd stop "invading" countries, sit down and keep to ourselves but we insist on bullying the world like a bunch of pricks. how about they "sacrifice" each other? i mean, men in the bible sacrificed their own sons… there are some rich boys we can certainly do without.

    • Here is a really good article from HGITM about the occult significance of this Super Moon. It is not relating to the war, but it is still all relative!!!

      Tomorrow is a big one 322 Skull & Bones – and 3/22/2011 =11

      Then I also came across this very important article regarding this POS war we just started:

      Rothschild Globalist Killers Pour DU On Libyans In Nuclear War.

      also saw last night that LVB made a great post:

      This was my morning devotional today, felt like sharing:

      Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die.

      The end of all things is at hand; therefore be serious and watchful in your prayers.

      Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

      Take heed to yourself, and diligently keep yourself, lest you forget the things your eyes have seen, and lets they depart from your heart all the days of your life.

      They just shall likve by faith, but if anyone draws back, my sould has no pleasure in him. But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.

      What I say to you, I say to all: Watch!!!

      Fear not, for I am with you, be not dismayed for I am your God. I will strenthen you, yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with My righteous right hand. I, the Lord your God, will hold your right hand.

      Rev3:2:1, Peter 4:7, 1 Peter 5:8, Deut 4:9, Heb 10:38-39, Mark 13:37, Isa 41:10-13


      • Look at the eyes of that woman burried to her head, the stones placed all around her face as she waits for them to pick them up and hit her with them. You hear about this but you can't really believe it, then you see this picture. I am going to pray like never before I can tell you that.

      • Hold on !!!!!!!!!

        Yes those images are shocking, specialy seeing women being decapitated but

        I must point out that not all those images are from Saoudy Arabia, the third one is from Indonesia.

        However, what they all have in commun is the fact that all those crimes were commited by a bunch of extremist, fanatics group that twiste Islamic teachings with their own culturel backround and they use religion as a tool to impose their personal values.

        I really felt the need to point that out because not every jew is a filthy rich asswhole, not every christian is p*******e and not every muslim is kamikaze ready to blow up.

        But I must agree with you, seeing how low humanity can go, I will be praying ,aswell, for the end of this era and for the begening of the better one that is yet to come…

      • According to Wikipedia: Ammonites are an extinct group of marine invertebrate animals in the subclass Ammonoidea of the class Cephalopoda. These molluscs are more closely related to living coleoids (i.e. octopuses, squid, and cuttlefish) than they are to shelled nautiloids such as the living Nautilus species.

    • yes you right! also : “Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin compared the air campaign to “medieval crusades.”
      and March first!!! “Venezuelaโ€™s President Hugo Chavez on Monday said the unrest in Libya is the result of exaggeration and distortions by the US government in order to justify an invasion of the North African country.”

      • oh and in the Arabic Yahoo, i found this about the oil:

        Khamenei slams attacks in Libya and blames the US president of lying in his yearly speech.

        – Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei used his new year's message on Monday to slam the military intervention in Libya, back regional revolts, and accuse US President Barack Obama of lying.

        "The US and Western (allies) claim they want to defend the people by carrying out military operations or by entering Libya… You did not come to defend the people, you've come after Libyan oil," Khamenei said in a live broadcast from the holy city of Mashhad…

      • For years, colonialism ravaged central and south Africa, now TPTB want north Africa. The cradle of civilization–that's Africa. For some reason, TPTB won't be satisfied until they claim and destroy the entire continent!

        On a mission from their jealous master, Satan perhaps?? Sure seems like it.

      • Check your history books cause Colonialism already ravaged NORTH AFRICA decades and even centuries ago!

  69. Od·ys·sey (d-s)


    The younger of the two surviving ancient Greek epic poems, traditionally ascribed to Homer but containing much orally transmitted material composed over several centuries, and concerning the adventures and ordeals of the Greek warrior Odysseus after the fall of Troy as he struggles to return home and reestablish himself as king of Ithaca.

    • Israeli Air Strikes on Gaza today …where are these Humanitarian heroes when Palestinians need them??

      … but we know when *REAL* humanitarian operations like the Freedom Flotilla attempts at sending Aid to Gaza .. people get shot at! and KILLED!!… The Hypocrisy is just unbelievable…but thats okay CNN and BBC do a phenomenal job at covering up…they'll just say Israel is engaged in self defense and switch over to Sports & Celeb News and it all goes away…& the UN??…maybe you'll hear a condemnation here or there and a couple of "strong" condemnations but never will you hear of any allied forces on a mission to disable Israeli warplanes in Tel-Aviv, restraining them from using Phosphorus & DU (Depleted Uranium) Shells on civilians.

      The Rebels in Libya are being armed by American and British Allied forces… purposefully increasing attacks on the Libyan Army all while expecting a ceasefire from Libyan troops.… <<

      How can the Libyan army maintain a ceasefire when the other side is still firing on them??

      …Im not saying Gaddafi is right whatsoever (he is a dictator who needs to go)…this whole situation was designed and planned out…& its definitely not about Oil or a Humanitarian Crisis.

      Another Iraq??…looks and sounds like it to me… (especially images of citizens happy to see Western forces attack)

      Saddam Hussein Captured on December 13th 2003 in "Operation Red Dawn" mission complete right??…..Its March 21 2011 and Allied troops are still in Iraq …. pray for Libyans.

      • There is a report that British elite troops sneeked into Libya and marked the targets 3 weeks before the allied bombing. The U.K. again, to which France sent a love call (ooh la la).

        Will Gadhafi be like Saddam Hussein or Osama bin Laden? Interesting question, eh? Whichever he will be, I am concerned that this is most likely to be another "dawn" for the "long war" (that Gadhafi has claimed it to be) into which the U.S. is being dragged again.

        Another parallel here: George Bush used the Iraq war (2003) for his presidential re-election (2004). Now is 2011 and Obama will be up for his re-election in 2012. Got it?

      • You sound like your trying to convince people of what this article is basically already about as though anyone is in disagreement…obviously this is all being played out and planned ahead of time and the date it began on was no coincidence either.

      • It's so true…

        I have started to talk about all of V.Cs articles in passing recently to almost anyone that will listen to me. [without having them make me think I suffer paranoid schizophrenia]

        Not in a scared frenzy of course, I just get talking about cost of living, petrol prices, natural disasters. Then I sneakily throw in a concept from the V.C site, and you have to see their brains sparkle when they receive an answer they were almost certain existed. Then I suggest they read this site.

        You wouldn't believe how many people I know are slowly waking up, and logging onto the V.C website, posting articles on Facebook, turning away from a lot of pop media [ESP. Lady Gaga], understanding certain social 'signs' and rituals… turning back to Christian beliefs.

        The author of this website should be so proud of themselves, because as one of my friends puts it: "sometimes it might be hard to Prove gods existence, but the VC website definitely proves the Devil exists…" and Yes, I have definitely restructured my fervent beliefs as a result.

      • Thanks for the good comment. Great that you mentioned this as a bus was bombed in Jerusalem yesterday and ONE died. Have you noticed the media all over the damn news bout ONE dead person, ONE "precious" israeli and 30 or so injuried. The headlines 'WORLD LEADERS CONDEMN ATTACK' yes its the WORLD LEADERS who care bout ONE dead israeli. While thousands of Palestinians have died so far, not to mentioned the slaughter of Gaza who no one gave a crap bout in terms of WORLD LEADERS. One good outcome in this is that more and more people are supporting the poor oppressed Palestinians and realising the manipulation of the media.

        To be honest I've never cared in the past bout the whole conflict but now I truly hate zionism and anything associated with it. Having said that, many Jews are NOT zionists and Im not expressing any hatred here towards the Jews.

    • Yes, me too. As soon as I heard it called operation Odysey Dawn I knew something was up. The way that is was made a point of in the media release seemed unusual.

  70. What a tragic world we live in. How can so many innocents continued to be slaughtered?

    Why the silence? Why are'nt we in an uproar over these senseless wars being fought ? America and Europe have provoked all of this.

    This is why Babylon must burn.

      • hi Fin,

        I do agree with u. the bible is the truth and babylon will be destroyed. however babylon is not New U can read the comment i left for trista. Please note that this is not my personal opinion instead i quoted scriptures from the bible for to also cross reference when u read your bible. Any question plz feel free to respond.Take care

      • In this era, would you not say that TPTB's interpretation of ancient wisdom (whether Christian, Mesopotamian, Egyptian, etc.) is what we're more likely to witness? And if they make it so, does it make prophecy any less valid? Assuming truth to many of the well-known/believed "conspiracy theories":

        If the Bible calls for earthquakes, and man triggers earthquakes on purpose using HAARP and/or other means, if man unleashes laboratory-made plagues on humanity, if man creates robotic insectoid instruments of war, could it not be prophecy fulfilled? Even if it was fulfilled on purpose by man?

        I believe that if the original intent was for Babylon to mean Rome, or the rebuilt original Babylon itself, it doesn't become any less real if our actions in the millenia since have changed the "Babylon" of prophecy to New York City.

        This is just my current thinking of the whole reality-coinciding-with-prophecy-seemingly-on-purpose, but one thing I know for sure is that the greatest powers in the world know a lot more about ancient mysteries, and have a lot more in the way of tools to effect prophecy than any of us have.

      • No, the Babylon of the Revelation is London (the city on many waters with the greatest naval fleet).. But there are many others all over the world…

      • Hi tristan let me answer that question not using my knowledge but let us look closely at the Revelation Account in the Bible.Please keep in mind that the Bible has the answers to any question we might have. Ok here goes,please be open minded,

        Revelation 17:1-4. What does the harlot represent? well she exerts influence over the kings of the earth. She dresses in purple,uses incence and is exceedingly wealthy. In addition by means of her spritistic practice all the nations are misled.(Revelation 17:17,18:18,12,13,23.).

        The Bible helps us to see that this harlot is a worldwide religious entity. She depicts,not any one religion but all religions that produce rotten fruit. The beast that the harlot rides is the world's political powers.(Revelation 17:10-13).

        Soon though an amazing event will take place. In Revelation 17:16,"The ten horns that you saw & the wild beast,these will hate the harlot & will make her devasted & naked & will eat up her fleshly parts & will completely burn her with fire.(Revelation 17:16). In a sudden shocking move, the world's political powers will turn on false religion & completely destroy her. What will prompt this action? The Bible book of Revelation answers:"God put it into their hearts to carry out this thought."(Revelation 17:17).

        Please everyone be aware we are living in the last days. Take heed to Revelation 18:4:"Get out of her my people". But the question arises how to identify true religion?

        – True worshippers are no part of the world,not divided by race or culture & display love among themselves.(John 13:35,17:16,Acts 10:34,35.

        – Trust God's word the bible(Matthew 15:6-9)

        Ask yourself what group of people right now are follwing God's Command at Matthew 24:14."For this good news of the kingdom will be preached in the all inhabitated earth for a witness to all the nations and then the end will come.

        So true worshippers are supposed to be involved extensively in the preaching work to try to get people to change their lives before the ends comes. What religion right now is doing that. Going door to door preaching and witnessing to anyone. Who???? U figure that out…

      • Hmm? Are you sure? Somehow Los Angeles and Las Vegas and Miami come to mind before New York when thinking of the modern day Babylon. Las Vegas and Los Angeles are probably the worst. From the families that I know personally that wanted to move to Miami a couple have returned saying the violence and corruption in the youth and the people is awful. It's very cold where I live and my church is a Spanish church. Usually the people have an obsession with wanting to move to a warmer tropical area. My parents are the pastors and I teach Sunday School. When I was younger one of the teens ended up moving to Florida with her Mom and you may know her today as Lisa Morales (not her real name). She's become big in the modeling world down there and is all over the Maxim website and magazines recently. My father saw her on TV on the Spanish channel and couldn't believe her attitude. All those Bible lessons she received went in one ear and out the other. But anyways, my point is that New York is bad in some aspects but I would think that those other cities are far worse. I've visited NYC a few times and there seem to be some good parts and bad parts. The bad parts themselves are kind of tame compared to those other cities. Prostitution is even legal in Vegas.

        But correct me if im wrong. I'm just curious to know why NYC would be considered modern day Babylon. I love trying to decipher the Apocalypse and figure all this out.

      • Hi Victoria,

        Please read my response to tristan,it gives an in depth explanation of babylon the great.

      • It makes me aggravated when people compare NYC to Babylon. NYC is a metropolitan place of business, culture and mingling of people. Sure, there are bad spots and some XXX stores, but when you compare it to Miami and Las Vegas like Victoria did, Las Vegas was BUILT for gambling and prostitution. New York City was built for industrialization and business.

        Wouldn't Las Vegas be the Babylon? I feel the reason why people target NYC is because it has soo many people that they could make a more lasting effect if they destroy the lives of the innocent then if they attacked Las Vegas. Imagine if the news was like: Las Vegas was destroyed. Do you think the population would care more if some fake blonde w****s and old rich men got blown up then if a whole community of people from around the world concentrated in one spot got blown up?

        Its because NYC has a lot more importance in the world is why people want to destroy it. Because the world would be paying attention if it was demolished. Not an ACTUAL Babylon. This isn't to bring justice. It's to bring attention.

        And the people who constantly repeat, "Oh, this is God's word, so it's going to happen," are just people that have consumed the lies that these puppeteers have been giving us so that we can accept our doom and not do anything about it. They are also probably the people that DON'T LIVE IN NEW YORK CITY.

        I live near there. What is there that is so evil? If you tell me Liquor stores and sex shops, well guess what. There are liquor stores and sex shops in every major city in America. More so in Las Vegas and Miami. So why New York City?

        Because it would attract more attention.

        Oh and don't even tell me that it has to do with Homosexuals because that's not even legal in the New York State.

      • Ugh. Silly Tourists. I live in las vegas. And 10 times out of 10, people who dont live there have this super-inflated sense that its 24/7 gambling, boozing, prostitution(which is NOT legal in las vegas, but it is in other parts of nevada), and debauchery. You couldnt be more wrong. Yes, most of that exists on a little 7mile stretch of road in the middle of the city, but everywhere else its a regular town, with regular people. No, us "sin citizens" do not live on the strip, no we do not live in a hotel. In fact, most of us tend to stay away from the strip because of said boozing, gambling, and various other shenanigans that we simply are tired of. However, we will gladly accept your cash at our tables and slot machines, while hoards of sheep fiend on chasing those jackpots only to be rewarded with a free buffet and a tshirt. Next time you come here on vacation, leave the blvd. for a day and see we're just like any other normal town.

        Id put los angeles, new york, chicago, san francisco, WASHINGTON D.C. as examples of modern day babylons before vegas simply because these CITIES(vegas is in all actuality a town) all have a greater influence on how the wirld works now and each city would affect MILLIONS more people being destroyed than if the strip burned down. New York for the sheer amount of people there and its influence on the planet, chicago for the financial incentive, los angeles for the amount of people and again, its influence on the planet. San francisco, being home to silicon valley and pretty much the modern tech hub of the western world.

      • no victoria modern day babylon is not NY. look to all false religions and false christian denomination. But mainly follow the beast itself Catholic church or should i call it papal Rome. The catholic church is the same rome mentioned in Daniel and Ezekiel its just that it meshed with christianity but still holds its first powers and paganism.

      • No, Babylon is Jerusalem of Jesus's day. It says so in Revelations multiple times. I do not argue with the Bible, it knows better than anyone what it says. It is absolutely not Papal Rome or any other place.

      • where in revelation have you seen Jerusalem as Babylon i would like you to show me that text, and yes you say the bible knows best and that is right but i do not know of anywhere in revelation where Jerusalem is called Babylon.

      • I know your opinion is your opinion but do you really think it would be limited to states because of the crime rate or violence in that area. Did you ever think about a number of countries that may work together? Whether its the NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, OR WEST? Im just saying that there is no way God can be talking about ONE STATE, OR CITY. Read more of the book of Revelations. 10 horns represent 10 nations, the beasts represent Kingdoms. If you believe what you say is true, at least think about whose runs NYC. What COUNTRY is it in. hint hint.

      • i agree with u, be more open minded. Read my response to tristan. i explained babylon the great in detail.

      • be open minded ure on the right track but there are two beast: one is the great U.S.A the other is the papal Church: Catholic now u can figure out the rest.

      • nothing can be more interesting than the order in which these things are unfolding.some of them,we cant really explain.i just feel the best thing to do is to watch as it unfolds even more and wait for the end.i just want to die smiling

      • Yet another interesting observation VC & Jah bless Josie!

        Indeed there's only one group of people spreading the "good news" of better times to come. I'm fed up with all the bad news we hear in today's world. If anyone has any doubts – I suggest you keep an open mind and listen, then make up your own mind. We all have God's gift of free will, I pray you use yours wisely…

        "The truth will set you free" (John 8:32)

      • Revelations was already fulfilled. Babylon of Revelations is Jerusalem of 2000 years ago, it says it like 10 times right in Revelations and Jesus confirms this in Mathew. Jerusalem was surrounded and sieged in 70 AD by the Romans (The Beast) because they killed the Prophets, the saints and Jesus. Stop misleading people into thinking Revelations is about some future event and the destruction of NY, London,the Vatican, etc.

        All bible prophecy is fulfilled 2000 years ago.

      • Zach dear u need to revise your edition of the bible or pay more attention to what its saying. you are partially right most part of Revelation has been fulfilled but we are still in the proces if you follow the time line in Revelation you will realize that we are the time when Christ is in the Holy of the Holies. So please revised.Or if u want the info straight email me at

      • Christ is in Heaven reigning as King in the New Jerusalem. Revelations was fulfilled when Jerusalem was destroyed in 70AD.

      • I've always understood it to be America.

        Simply put, a far-away country who buys a lot of stuff and is rich and wealthy, suddenly seen blazing from afar. The traders weep, wondering who will buy their wares; but the people celebrate…indeed, are directed to celebrate by God Almighty.

        Meanwhile there are two interesting points in the United States which are to be noted:

        1: Yellowstone Park, which is one of ten super-volcanoes in the earth AND THE ONLY ONE WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY LOCATED ON LAND (Krakatoa doesn't count, even though it's had effects on history). People don't know whether it's ready to blow, but if chronological evidence is to be considered it's beginning to be overdue.

        2: The New Madrid fault is located near New Madrid, Missouri, and is surrounded by lots of sandy soil. That sand lets dangerous earthquake waves move undampened for longer distances – when strong earthquakes happened in 1811–1812, bells rang in Boston in response.

        The Yellowstone super-volcano has covered up to the whole western USA area in pumice and rocks; a large portion of the USA's crude (especially the supplies for the Northeast Quadrant) goes through the New Madrid area. Combine the two, and you have a disaster about the scale of the volcano blast that destroyed Minoan culture (you'll have to scale it up, but you get the idea…).

        And, since the center of the biblical world is Jerusalem (Or Mecca if you are Muslim), what other nation is "over the horizon?"

        (China may count, but it's part of the same continent.)

      • I' have'nt made up my mind yet. It's either America or Europe, but I'm leaning more towards America .

    • It is also the Hebrew calender Day Of Purim, when Jews are encouraged to massacre gentiles.

      Since the near totally Jewish riddled Illuminati run the Western governments it makes sense to have Christians Battling Muslims on behalf of the Jews on this date, no?

      By the way…the 2003 invasion of Iraq was launch on the Day of Purim 2003 to.

      • I'm afraid you must be mistaken; your antisemitism is ill-informed. Purim is not a day that Jewish people are encouraged to "slaughter gentiles." Rather, Purim celebrates the deliverance of the Jewish people from the evil plot of Haman to annihilate the Jews living in exile. If you are going to try and tie this in with some sort of Jewish conspiracy theory, it would benefit you to check your facts beforehand. I certainly mean no disrespect in telling you this. My hope to prevent your antisemitism from spreading any further in this forum.

        For the record, I am not Jewish. However, I do have a profound love for the Jewish people. That's why I felt it necessary to jump in here and come to the defense of the Purim holiday.

        God bless you.

      • Thanks for your comment. All I know is that the Christians, the Jewish and the Muslims are the only ones that believe in one God and I believe is the same, and God doesn't need human sacrifice.

      • Yes he does. what about jesus – that was a human sacrifice. And you drink his blood and eat his flesh as a sacrament during communion to remind you of that. No religion is more blood thirsty than Christianity,

      • There's a difference in bloodthirst and thirst for Life.

        Latter goes for Christianity, first goes for Islam.

      • You have no idea what Islam is.

        I dare you to read about islam or the history of Islam or read the Quran and not immediately change your mind

        By the way the only way for this evil to erased

        Is by Muslims and Christians uniting in the face of Satanists.

        Have you ever asked yourself why the Illuminati and he Satanists want to make islam look bad?why do hey care so much to delude people about it?

        Do you care about sticking to whatever belief you have or opening your eyes and knowing the truth

      • Blood thirsty Islam???? Read about sufism which is brainwashing some muslims to believe in what is not in Islam.

        Islam itself is a peaceful religion. But sufism is occult science from which even Crowley took things…they are now part of modern day freemasonry and its followers, the illuminaties. Sufis are extremely skilled at utilizing demons.

      • Yours is pretty good newspeak, the hypothetical Lamb of God who sacrifices himself for the sins of the world becomes: a sacrifice for the need of God, that incidentally is himself.

        Can you try to be rational? esp. if you're atheist that would be a good start.

      • @Trez

        bloodthirsty? If God dies for you it means He is bloodthirsty??? Even a half brainer realizes this is as an oxymoron. He died so you don't have to..

        Whoever drinks His blood becomes like Him. But this of course doesn't apply to morons..

      • I like the way the "Christians" in these posts are calling other people trolls and/or morons, etc. Jesus would not be so judgmental. I think Jesus and Mohamed would probably sit down and talk things out. I don't think that they would throw grenades at each other or call each other names. The "powers that be" want us to be divided. As in divide and conquer. This left-right paradigm illusion has to come to end…. Wake Up Y'all!

      • @Mister B

        Although not Christian you know exactly what Jesus would do.. wow! Now this is something because I try to get closer to Him and understand bits of His thinking for more than twenty years and I cannot say I accomplished much! You also know He would be angry at 'Christians' who speak in defense of His name which is constantly trashed by some.. Do you have any other valuable insights? Please share…

        PS. He couldn't talk to Mohamed over a cup of coffee.. there's a gap between His kingdom and the other world…

      • I cant agree more with u. We all christians jews and muslims believe in god and his prophets. The only thing is that lobbys point out our differences to divide us to keep the power while we are busy fighting against each other. What i know is that all the prophets were here they wouldnt fight. They would give us the same message is to believe in god, angels prophets and faith. Peace all, god bless u and thank you vigilent citizen

      • Im pretty sure Jesus would tell Mohammad that he needs to accept him as his savior and only way to eternal life…maybe in a nice way but they would have nothing to negotiate as in the manner you make it seem lol….

      • Mister B~ I have no idea if you will even come back here a week later. But your comment has been on my mind, cause it's not right. Not according to the Word. And I did not know how or what to say to you until now, but put in my face just yesterday, I know how.

        Luke 12:49-51 – Jesus, the divider:

        I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled.

        But I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!

        **Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division.***

        This is from the mouth of Jesus/Yeshua, KJV. Take it or leave it, your choice. He would not sit and have coffee with Mohammed. I know that is not popular. But it is what it is. Your words smell of the upcoming one world religion, whether you are aware or not.

        2 Cor 6:17 Come out from them – and be separate!

      • Sarah, that passage about peace on earth, you are severely taking out of context. In that passage in Luke, the second coming of Christ is the subject matter. Surely, the Bible teaches that the second coming of Christ will indeed be something that causes division and strife on earth, because it will be the rapture and judgement. Also, it relates to how a person's individual acceptance of Christ and belief can divide their family due to differing beliefs. Belief in Christianity / Christ is not an non-divisive action. By its very nature, believing in something will often push away others who don't share said belief.

        He is not speaking of his physical time on earth, during which his demeanor was often peaceful. Did not Jesus speak with the pharisees? Did not Paul speak with philosophers?

      • @ Brandon – how totally random I came back here today. I can see why you are saying that. I do agree with what you are saying, about how absolutely peaceful Jesus was. The only time he acted out was at the moneychangers……tells ya something huh? lol He told us, He is sending us out as sheep amongst wolves, be wiser than serpents, yet gentle as doves. I can understand Mr. B's post in that some people do not excercise the 'dove-ness' part. I agree with that if people are calling names etc….I guess the part that really sits with me wrong, or seriously disturbs my peace, is the Jesus and Mohammend would sit and 'talk things out'. No they wouldn't, they might have a conversation, and Jesus would show only love, but it would be a dividing one.

        There is a move right now, big one, to unite faiths of the world which is THE set up for the one world religion. It is happening right now. Even people as mainstream as Glenn Beck is promoting it. That type of mentality will fall right into it. 1 Tim 4:12 & 2 Tim 4:2-4 – this is for believers too. I understand why you would say I'm taking that particular scripture out of context, but it is a much more complicated issue. Jesus/Yeshua IS the divider……..God Bless Brandon. Sometimes I go from A to D and forget B and C…forgive me for that. I"m working on it!!

        This is an excellent article on what I am talking about – and a cool little youtube on the same thing. – Religious Trojan Horse Fabian Socialism, Tony Blair, and Rick Warren

      • There is theory and there is fact and this demonstrates the power Zionists have over Western governments. Quit lying to yourself and/or others.

      • @Chitown2PA and all organised Israeli trolls…

        We smell your fear…the game is up.

        The Greeks have a wonderful saying – "Before the Gods allow a people to fail they first give arrogance"

      • I wholeheartedly agree. This is no coincidence and I'm sure VG didn't make the Purim reference simply to avoid any slur of "anti-semite" which is laughable. Purim could more appropriately be called the holiday celebrated for victory over enemies which suits last Sunday perfectly , no? The loudest critics of Israel and Zionism are Jews themselves so if your gut reaction to the proposed analogy is to slander with a misnomer while the true semites are being massacred in Libya , Iraq and Palestine you can get f+cked.

      • Wow, before you start spouting off anti-semitic BULLSHIT, perhaps you should read book…

    • If you look at earth as it circles the sun in an 8 year cycle…..Venus circles the sun 13 times….During this cycle the two planets line up with the sun 5 times…..this creates a pentagram….this is the kind of astrology those in the know subscribe to and i believe use to time the execution of their dasturdly deeds…..Vengeance belongeth to me saith the LORD…..Try to stay out of the way…..That is all….

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