Lady Gaga: Another Pop Artist With a Strange Relationship With her Parents

OLD DAYS: The future star at a high-school dance with her father in 2004.

Pop stars that are wholly part of the “entertainment machine” often have family members that act more as handlers. We’ve recently seen in Britney Spears is on Tour and is Still Under Mind Control that her parents have a tight control on her. Amy Winehouse and Michael Jackson are also other interesting cases. Today, a NY Post article on Lady Gaga reveals that she too has a rather strange relationship with her father. He reportedly turned her into a “sexy queen” and she shares 50% of her revenues with him. Although the article paints a heart-warming picture of their relationship, some of the details are rather unsettling and that something more shady going on. Is he her handler? Whatever the case may be, she is another pop star with a bizarre relationship with her parents.

Lady Gaga gives 50 percent of her earnings to her father

How does the biggest pop star on the planet reward herself after she’s spent the past year touring the world, performing for President Bill Clinton, opening her own boutique in Barneys, releasing a high-fashion picture book, and prepping for her appearance on “Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve”?

If you’re Lady Gaga, you go home to Mom and Dad’s and curl up in your childhood bedroom on the Upper West Side — which is what she plans to do this holiday weekend as her ABC variety special, “A Very Gaga Thanksgiving,” premieres Thursday night.

“She still doesn’t have her own place in the city,” one longtime friend tells The Post. “She and her family are very tight.”

OLD DAYS: The future star at a high-school dance with her father in 2004.

It’s her great paradox: At 25, Lady Gaga may be the most avant-garde performer of the last decade, a self-anointed Queen of the Freaks who reinvents herself with whipsaw rigor, yet she remains very much a nice Catholic girl who is most comfortable with 19-year-old sister Natali, mom Cynthia and dad Joe — who takes an unprecedented 50 percent of her earnings under their LLCs, Team Love Child and Mermaid Music.

She’s also bought a restaurant, one of her dad’s favorites on the Upper West Side. Formerly known as Vince & Eddie’s, it’s been renamed Joanne after his late sister. Celebrity chef Art Smith, who appears on Gaga’s Thanksgiving special, is at the helm.

But it’s the 50/50 split between Gaga and her father that’s most unusual. There’s only one other of its kind in the history of the music industry — between Elvis and Col. Tom Parker.

“There’s really no justifiable sense to doing a 50/50 deal with anyone in your career, other than someone you’re partners in a band with,” says Josh Grier, an entertainment lawyer who represents Wilco and Elvis Costello, among others. “Certainly no artist entering a management deal does anything close to that — a commission is usually 15 to 20 percent.”

That said, it’s quite possible that Lady Gaga, born Stefani Germanotta, believes her father has earned his share of her fortune, even though her success has allowed him to realize a lifelong dream: He now works in the industry, managing aspiring artists. Yet she likely sees this as further evidence of how similar they are; her adoration is unconditional. In January 2010, she told Elle magazine, “I’m married to my dad,” and that September, she told Vanity Fair, “I’m happier than I’ve ever been. I’ve been in my father’s arms for two weeks, wishing [him] a Happy Father’s Day.”

In the majority of her interviews, her father is — aside from herself — the most dominant character. Though Gaga has given alternate versions of her decision to quit using cocaine in 2007, in the most consistent one is Joe Germanotta coolly assessed his daughter’s downward trajectory with one devastating line: “He looked at me one day and said, ‘You’re f–kin’ up, kid,’ ” she said.

Joe Germanotta grew up in New Jersey, a rock ’n’ roll fanatic who loved Led Zeppelin and Billy Joel and who perhaps overshared with his daughter along the way: “He was having sex with girls under the boardwalk in New Jersey before he went to see Bruce Springsteen,” Gaga said in July. “He saw a lot of himself in me. My first piano teacher was a stripper.”

Though friends describe Gaga as equally close with her outgoing, elegant mom, her primary relationship seems to be with her dad. Joe Germanotta was a frustrated rocker who made his fortune in hotel Wi-Fi, becoming wealthy enough to buy a duplex on the Upper West Side and send his daughters to the Convent of the Sacred Heart (yearly tuition averages $35,000).

FLESH AND BLOOD: Pals say that when Gaga struck it rich, dad Joe was just fine with her outrageous, hyper-sexy style.

Though in many ways a highly traditional Catholic Italian-American, Joe was also a progressive and permissive patriarch. When his daughter announced her career goal — worldwide pop superstardom — he didn’t scoff or even suggest a backup plan. He used his money and connections to hire the best producers, to book studio time for a demo, to get Stefani in the room with record execs.

In 2005, when she decided to drop out of NYU in her freshman year, Joe agreed to bankroll her for 12 months, paying rent on her tiny fifth-floor walk-up on the Lower East Side and hauling her furniture up the stairs.

“He is my hero,” she has said.

It was there, on the Lower East Side, where she met the only other man to compete with her father: Luc Carl, a bartender and failed heavy-metal musician who’s the subject of nearly every song on her multiplatinum debut, “The Fame.”

At the time, the power dynamic was reversed: Stefani was a preppy, sheltered rich girl from the Upper West Side whose teen idol was Britney Spears; Luc was one of the best-looking bartenders on the Lower East Side, dialed in to all the right parties and people, hired to lure the girls into the dive that was St. Jerome’s and keep them coming back.

At the time, Stefani was also performing as a burlesque dancer in downtown nightclubs and working out a more sexually provocative look, often walking down the street in fishnets, spike heels and heavy makeup, mistaken for a hooker or a transsexual, not caring either way. Her father, however, was appalled. Stefani told one friend that her father had reprimanded her for wearing underwear over her tights to a business meeting at Sony: “He said, ‘You look like a f–king s**t!’ ”

As she began making progress, Joe was seemingly swayed by his daughter’s assertion that everything was in service of her art. He’s become so inured to his daughter’s outre costuming that he was recently shot at a party with his arm around Gaga, who was braless in a sheer top, nipples covered with black electrical tape. Perhaps his involvement in the industry accounts for the shift in attitude. Since 2008, Joe Germanotta has worked as a music manager, though none of the acts in his stable has yet to break. His daughter remains his most successful investment.

“Their relationship definitely improved as she made money,” says a source. “That helped substantially. I don’t know that it’s healthy. As soon as she started earning money, he said something to her like, ‘What man wouldn’t want you now that you’re becoming so successful?’ ”

Luc Carl both did and didn’t want her; she pursued him, hanging out at St. Jerome’s, the bar where he worked, until she got a date. It was a dubious achievement.

“Luc didn’t like pop music, so Luc basically didn’t respect anything she did,” her friend Brendan Sullivan said in 2010. Her friends were all confused as to why this smart, driven, charismatic girl was chasing a guy who treated her so poorly — cheating on her, mocking her for not being cool enough, deploring her ambition.

They’d break up and make up and break up again, and finally, ingeniously, she decided to use Luc right back, mining their wholly dysfunctional relationship for what would become “The Fame.”

“The concept she came up with,” Sullivan said, “is that she’s working hard on her music to impress this guy, but the harder she works on the music, the more it will take her away from him. So she wins and loses either way.”

Luc Carl and Gaga broke up — again — in May of this year, and though he prides himself on never giving interviews, he’s managed to monetize their relationship. This past Friday, Carl hosted the opening of Ludlow Manor, a Lower East Side bar in which he’s co-owner, and in March 2012, St. Martin’s Press will publish his first book, a motivational memoir called “The Drunk Diet: How I Lost 40 Pounds . . . Wasted.”

Sample nasty passage: “The truth of the matter is that I used to get more women when I was broke, flabby and completely wasted all the time — but those women were sloppy 22-year-olds, the kind of women who messed up my sheets and asked for cab fare in the morning. These women are known as cheeseburgers, by the way, and they’re to be enjoyed only once in a while, just like real cheeseburgers.”

Until their most recent breakup, Gaga would stay at Luc’s modest Brooklyn apartment whenever she was in the city, leaving her limo to idle outside all night, strolling to the corner bodega in full regalia, hailing the homeless man who serenaded her with “Bad Romance.”

This trip home, she’ll be with the other most-important and complicated man in her life — her dad. “As much as I want the world to be happy,” she said in July, “I just want my dad to be proud of me.”

– Source: NY Post


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One must wonder where and why she came upon the MKULTRA symbolism for her pop music. It's not the sort of thing you wake up one morning and decide on, and it certainly doesn't make any sense to be so reticent about the meaning of such lurid themes that composite your whole shtick. Such spectacularly twisted and dysfunctional machinery couldn't have developed overnight.

@Syrus – Very well-stated; good point. This has crossed my mind as well. One could argue that MK imagery has pervaded popular culture for several generations… Still, Gaga has sure made it a point to bring it to the forefront, and one can't help but wonder why. Is she doing it to appease her label by flaunting the "latest craze"? Or is there more to it? There is definitely something strange about her entire rise to fame, and I don't mean her kooky outfits. I mean the fact that once it happened, it was SO fast, SO broad, SO ubiquitous. She has a HUGE marketing machine behind her, and you have to wonder WHY they are pushing her so much. (Ditto for the other heavy hitters of today, while other talented people wallow in obscurity.) If it weren't for all the creepy MK symbolism and all her other odd behaviour,… Read more »

From the lyrics on Diamond Heart from the Joanne album:

Some a*****e broke me in
Wrecked all my innocence

Young, wild, American
Head full of Jameson
Girl’s playin’ bad ’cause it doesn’t pay to be good
A cruel king made me tough
Daddy’s girl’s never good enough

My cousin was molested and raped at a young age (9 or 10) and when she finally filled a report after her 18th b-day, she later dropped it. She is now living with her father again and they admitted to everyone that they are together. He isn't her biological father but he raised her since she was a child. For the people saying that abused children don't scream it out to the world, look at this.

@ Mary

This is indeed a really sad story which makes me feel bad for your cousin, although I don't believe it means anything concerning Gaga. It confirms that it is easy to have your life "controlled" and "destroyed" by the people who are supposed to be the closest to you in such cases. I was once violently mugged when I was younger (not by relatives) but not raped and it is hard to let go even if it is not physical but psychological, so I can imagine how hard it must be. I am so compassionate and hope that she will make it.

on illuminati world, symbol rule the world, an the symbol is money.

We're no better than them if we hail abuse. Try to tone it down please.

she has a love for her father no one as simple minded as the people using this site could understand. you have to view the world in such a beautiful way to truly understand her. have none of you ever wanted so badly for your parents to be proud of you that you'd give just about anything. he father made her feel as though she wasn't good enough and she more than rose to the occasion. do i agree with her father accepting her only after she had fame ? of course not. but knowing what it's like to feel that kind of abandonment mentally and know how awful it is to feel like a constant let down to those around you, i understand why she gives him money and other things. she loved Luc because much like her father, he refused to be impressed. she goes back to Luc… Read more »

Well I can relate 100% to the last paragraph! And if I get where I am working towards in the present, or had as much money as she does, I would love to give 50% of my earnings to my parents, because there would be no chance of me being in that place, achieving my dream without all their help, and all their money, so I would love to give back to them as much as I could!

That's really not the point of the article Ana….

Sorry for the grammatical mistakes in the first sentence, didn't check

I know, my point is not everything in the article is not as bad as it seems!

Call me naive, but I don't see "incest" anywhere…weird, yes…but incest, nope. What I disliked was the I-like-you-now-that-you-make-money part, although maybe is more of acceptance towards what she does.

And for anyone wondering, no I am NOT a Lady Gaga fan, just trying to defend her…at all! Neither am I new to this site and the conspiracy theories.

I mean that I am not there yet, but if I ever get there.

In my opinion she won't end up like Britney. She's not like Britney. Britney is an actual brainwashed control pop star with little to do with her own "image". Lady Gaga we can say is the new Madonna. I call Madonna the Pop mafia Queen. She's the one who makes or breaks people in pop culture. She's the one who made "new age" a big influence in POP culture. (Kabbalah, witchcraft, "catholicism", etc…) But Madonna does this willingly. She knows who she serves, and she knows that she well be given supernatural abilities to speak, and act a certain way to entice society and bring upon some sort of rebellion that will only dig us further in the whole. Like Madonna, Gaga knows what she is doing and why and what her price is. Fame (influence, and power) for as long as she wants but has to do it a… Read more »

The Luc Carl part maybe correct i have to say. She wants him to like her. and maybe she has a bad taste for men because of her father. But i highly doubt her father had any sexual relationship with her. He didn't speak to her for months after seeing her show with lady starlight. Only after his heart surgery they became close again. My opinon is that her family just thought she was crazy and going against her wouldnt make anything better so they support her. After all she is a slave and no one can do anything about that.

Isn't Madonna In The Illuminati? O_o?

You honestly think Madonna was not a mind controlled slave?! Have a look at her history and her film clips, I mean, just read the lyrics to Like A Prayer: "I close my eyes… oh God I think I'm falling… out of the skies, I close my eyes… heaven help me… it's like a dream… no end and no beginning… he's here with me, it's like a dream… let the choir sing… when he calls my name, it's like a little prayer, i'm down on my knees, I want to take you there, in the midnight hour, I can feel your power, just like a prayer, you know i'll take you there…" — these for example CAN be interpreted as finding god etc, but they can ALSO easily be interpreted in the same manner that MANY of these MK stars (gaga, rihanna, britney etc) have songs that seem to be… Read more »
um yeah either mind controlled to do a specific agenda or writing/practicing/producing on your own will being the key that opens the door to the next degeneration. Madonna was the mother of the 80's-90's and Millenium degeneration through music because she herself possessed the power from her "master" willingly. She won't destroyed by the companies. She is one with the companies. So with that I compared it to Gaga being the new key to the next door of degeneration that we see. People no longer look to Madonna for inspiration. (and i'm only saying in pop culture, because it's the music that influences the masses) It's now Gaga the mother of this degeneration to follow in footsteps. I mean look how pop music has dramatically changed after these women stepped into it. They are the vessels that their master talks through with their music and ideas all willingly by them.… Read more »

Wth. Ikr, how can a dad hold his daughter like that when she's wearing something close to nothing? What the heeeeel. I don't even hug my father, ew! Gross, creppyyyyyyy

Your right. I also think shes closer to madonna than to britney but i think she isnt as strong as madonna. Gaga is already breaking out and feeling regret and its only her fourth year being famous. In her song Queen she says " Tonight I will return the fame and riches earned. with you I'd watch them all be burned." and with that same lyric she has in the end of her booklet with all the thanks mentions and that lyric was for her family-Mom,Dada,Natali. And the only reason i think she lets the illuminati use her this much is for the fame and because she is obviously insecure. In her Marry The Night song she says "I'm a soldier to my own emptiness"

Ed Chiarini says Gaga is none other than…

Read his site.

Much of LG reads straight out of Fritz Springmeier's How to Create a Perfect Mind Controlled Slave book. You should read it for full info on how mind control slaves are fractured and controlled.

Yeah, the creepiest part of this article is the sheer outfit with the electrical tape pasties. That is just super creepy and makes me cringe a little.

All of this is very sad to me i mean come on people look around you. with evolution other than becoming better our society keeps getting worse and we are all dumbed down like sheep or something and we shouldnt let this go on. what the gov is doing is "dividing & conquering". if more people tried to educate themselves they would see what is going on and if young people would take school seriously they wouldnt have to depend on becoming a rap star or whatever to make a living. as for gaga she probably never had her dad's support so she is now living to do everything to please him or make him "proud" but he is definetely her handler, i am very sure of that and both of em are devilish because i dont know what kind of father would do that nor what kind of grown… Read more »

Hell no, I would never hug my father half naked, I wouldnt even dress like that.

That's way too close for me, ugh.

" in my daddy's arms" sheesh but all of these mainstream controlled celebs have to be abused sexually by their family members it's the way they achieve the splitting of the personalities early on

The resemblance between Joe Calderone,Gaga's alter-ego and her father is painfully obvious. For some reason,he gives me the creeps.

Knowing the profile of parents who push their children into the industry it's sorta hard for me to blame Lady Gag for her behavior.

She is a product of her age. Raised and corrupted by those she appears to most worship. She didn't have a chance. Raised by the people who raised and use her.

If you really think about it she is to be most pitied.

Neither me, my husband, or children are fans of lady gaga. I have been a long time reader of vigilant citizen and am a strong believer in the illuminati and other conspiracy theories, but I have to say, this is pushing to far! If you have a close relationship with your parents and love them with all your heart, it is automatically incest? I am Italian and have a very close relationship with my parents. It is our culture to keep our family close and worship your parents. I'll agree that the second photo is a little inappropriate to wear in front of your father, but it also shows that her father supports her, no matter what it is. Something an Italian man should do with all his children. I loved my father, god rest his soul, and always will to death for being the first man in my life… Read more »

In her song "you and i" she says the only men she serves is her "daddy, nebraska (whatever that means) and jesus christ" so for her god or god's son whatever she believes, comes last. That lyric always seemed odd to me because who would say they serve their father?

Just read this today in the local newspaper's section of entertainment. Lady Gaga was talking about having always been different but these particular words of hers caught my attention:

"As an artist, that's something I prayed for. I really want to experience something psychotic and outer-body and magical and inconvenient to help breed my creativity, to push my tortured reality to the place of the double rainbow."

Lady gaga is showing allot of symbolism I would like it if VC checks Justin Bieber's version of "Santa claus is coming to town" I wouldn't usually listen to a jb song but when I saw the video you can clearly see mind-control from the mechanical hand to the wind up doll/dancer and ofcourse shorts of disney's Christmas elf program cartoon/film

This is on point!! So weird cuz all day I was reading her “Born this WaY” album and I came to the very same conclusion.Her songs are ridiculous I never liked her. But now I feel sorry for her she is just another puppet to them used as a distraction for the masses. Kids idolize her and don’t even understan her lyrics for the real meaning without the catchy dance tune. It was outrageous she even got a primetime Thanksging special on hmmmm ABC owned by Disney. These are no coincidences. History doesn’t repeat itself it hs never changed!

It's really sad this girl's life was stolen by the industry.

And even more sad that her family has been in it since the beginning.

Dehumanizing much ? Her talents have been completely soiled.

PS/ For the non-belivers, look at that sick picture what more do you want ?

A sextape ? Come to think of it, it probably already exist somewhere…

Looking at her is like looking at a piece of a mirror into a disorted world and just knowing somewhere it makes perfect sense.