Rapper Ol’ Dirty Bastard was known for his unique rap style, one that mixed hardcore New-York rap with your drunk uncle singing Frank Sinatra at 1:14 AM. While listening to ODB rap and talk always made one linger between “I have no idea what he’s talking about” and “I know exactly what he’s talking about”, he was rather clear on one subject: The government was trying to kill him.
Indeed, shortly before his untimely death on November 2004 (at the age of 36), ODB repeatedly tried to warn the world that people in high places were after him. Here’s a video compiling ODB’s rants about “the government” (Warning: Foul language).
While many dismissed ODB’s warnings as the “ramblings of a crackhead”, one thing is for sure: He was indeed heavily monitored by the FBI. Using the Freedom of Information act, Rich Jones of Gun.io blog obtained the hefty FBI file on ODB and his group, the Wu-Tang Clan.
The files document the history of the group, its many activities and its potential ties with the crime world. A part of it states:
“The detectives have documented, in their case files, that the WTC [Wu-Tang Clan] is heavily involved in the sale of drugs, illegal guns, weapons possession, murder, car jackings, and other types of violent crimes…”
Here’s the entire (but heavily redacted) file:
FBI File of Russell "Old Dirty Bastard" Jones
So. What really happened to ODB?
Dirty died with a bag of cocaine in his stomach, double-bagged. He carried on smoking crack & took a tramadol for pain while the coke leaked out of the bag, causing him to overdose & have a heart attack.
But why did he swallow the coke in the first place? If not for the drug war, such dangerous measures would not be necessary at all. I know that sounds silly to some, but it’s true. People should be free to use whatever substance they want without fear of raids, loss of freedom, loss of employment or other consequences. As long as they don’t hurt anyone else, it’s a personal choice.
That said, ODB showed all the signs of paranoid schizophrenia, which is made worse by abusing stimulants. You can see how he changed as his career progressed. He was calm & coherent in the beginning but as his drug use escalated, so did his delusions. His paranoia is typical of schizophrenia–believing a microchip is implanted in you, thinking the government is watching you. Being famous & in the public eye would’ve only magnified these fears. Not everyone is cut out for stardom.
In the end, everyone failed ODB: his bandmates, his label, his wife, the criminal justice system, the mental health system, his friends, his fans…just everyone. Nobody had the nerve to call him on his addiction. He went around treating women like objects & making babies with no consequence (13 kids!) as well as smoking as much crack & drinking as much booze as he could get his hands on. His mother was the only constant in his life.
Were the Hip Hop Cops watching? Probably. Did the FBI have a file on Wu-Tang? Absolutely. But did the government have a direct hand in ODB’s death? No, but I would assert that the prohibition of drugs & the incarceration of non-violent drug users definitely killed him. Prison is no place for the mentally ill. Dirty was convinced people were out to kill him in prison. It was really sad. He couldn’t afford to go back there & ended up paying with his life.
So many suss things in this vid. Says he was put in a psych hospital on release from prison and had to stay a while because not ready to be released. That is a red flag, he probably go messed him up even more in that hospital. The Wu abandoned him, I reckon there is a lot more to it than just that. They picked him off, or had no choice but to abandon/sacrifice him if they all wanted to live and get money themselves. Twisted af. He was f**cked and they took advantage of his personality – somewhere between “unhinged” genius and mentally ill. He had native american blood so would’ve been very sensitive to alcohol and drugs and prone to addiction as many native americans are. he knew too much and didn’t play the game and put the rest of the wu’s in danger I reckon. I wouldn’t even be surprised if it turned out his own mother wasn’t all she cracked up to be either, it seems like everyone was making something out of him. Sadder still, he’s not the only artist this has happened to of course! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaOGlUdU9_E
He did a You tube. Com interview. Before he died was trying to get off drugs , left a message to his wife and children. Stated His wife – divorced Him also. If a person hooked on cocaine or any drugs, it very hard too quit the stuff. Because drugs affect the brain and the nervous system. When they get a craving for a drug- and none around them the body goes into muscle panic, sweating , head aching, vomiting and the body shaking movement some people get a heart attack then die because of the shock to there body. It’s said ODB had chest pain ect see the body craving another fix for the drug addiction. The cocaine also even Pot – canabis , – that is legal in many states today, when smoked or injected, causes brain cells, to be damaged . The brain controls the organs of the body. When a person commit robbery or stealing and they have drug habit- it because there bodies craving more for the addiction of the drugs. They not getting there “Fix” – often enough , so the body start getting side affect symptoms. Pain, vomit with shaking uncontrollable. The brain wants the fix. To passify the torment, the individual gets mentally desperate- seek to Rob someone , a drug addict don’t care at that state of the mind, – they would rob there own – mother.
We’ll- if you see wu tang videos especially method man all they rap about – is f*****g females. . Threats to shoot a person, dress up like pimps and gang members. Glorifying violence ect. Not to mention sleeping. Around with many females , they can catch and transmit disease also. –
He wasn't the only one portrayed as crazy, look into videos of Dave Chappell he was labeled a crazy crackhead who ran off to Africa from his troubles. He tells another story that actually makes more sense than what the media and celebrity gossip spinoffs made of it.
It's only paranoia if there's no conspiracy; the US gov't has an entire division of 'trouble shooters' trained in the 'dark arts' of character assassination, defamation, psychological / chemical manipulation etc. They're pooled largely from CIA ranks; specialize in media and 'handle' agents & ops in every social strata. It doesn't take an army of black ops soldiers to quell dissent; they simply nail down / make examples of ANYone who dares stand up to the status quo. SnowedIn revealed ony the tip of an immense iceberg; one designed to keep contractors & third parties like him silent. They don't have to kill when they can insert illegal materials / data into any mail, recruit 'medical professionals' to condemn one as crazy / lobotomize and worse. Terror by design.
He was probably selling dope for the CIA; like the REAL Rick Ross.
Yep, just goes to show that heavy drug abuse and heightened levels of paranoia don't mix too well.
Oh please, this guy is just substituting out the white man for "the government", "CIA", and "Bush".
You can come toward two conclusions:
1. That Ol Dirty Bastard is so important to the "government" and so hated by "Bush" that the "CIA" decides after years to finally kill him.
2. That Ol Dirty Bastard was a suspect of involvement in a murder or numerous other red flags and as such, was being watched.
Only one of those two conclusions is rooted in substantial evidence and common sense.
ODB was also a heroin addict. He was in rehab with Scott Weiland for a bit back in 99-00.
He was killed plain and simple, by the "same" people. Some really good comments guys, thanks and of course Cheers to VC!
There is a picture of a Wu Tang Clan member doing the one eye…don't know his name cant remember. I was not surprised considering they have lyrics "exposing" the Illuminati and yet they are out there "making it big", classic self-exposure.
They also tour a lot with the Guano Apes who have included Illuminati symbolism in their stuff.
I seem to remember an interview with Griff, where he mentioned ODB's blood line and connections with the 'Blackfoot' tribe. I think he also spoke about disputes over land – possibly in the 'Montauk' area (but I could be wrong about that).
The easiest way to tarnish someones credibility is to mention drugs. Most people who use drugs do not become raving lunatics, even most addicts do not. The world would be in dire straits if this was the case.
Most of us do not get to witness what goes on behind the scenes. Remeber that the PTB target specific people, often depending upon their energy. They know who knows too much.
Yeah, his native american family line were “big guns” in the new york area (before it was new york city of course) and he wanted his land back ; ). He knew too much and wouldn’t shut up once he did so he was broken down. When he went to prison he came out a changed person – not for the better – and alluded to strange s**t being done to him in jail – maybe given some sort of drugs. his son speaks on his behalf and says it was hell for odb in jail and it was very hard for him to adapt when he got out. i watched a video of him coming out of prison and immediately being herded into a car by damon dash and pretty much made to sign a deal before he had any time to adjust. that was dodgy af. odb was broken on release – totally pulled to pieces – probably made the dark deals to get famous with the wu but, like dmx and tupac for eg, didn’t like what he saw and experienced. acted up,spoke truths, got stitched up, silenced, incarcerated and eventually put down. i don’t know how X has lasted as long as he has, but i hope he lasts a long time to come.
X = xxtentacion? Why would you say that he doesnt know s**t
Its sad but I’ll help you out ,he’s talking about Dmx man
funny the file starts talking about illegal guns and one being used to kill ROBERT JOHNSON . who was the black man who met the devil at the crossroads and sold his soul for rock n roll?
odb committed food stamp fraud even after wu tang rose to fame. it doesn't seem unusual at all to me that he would be paranoid about the government watching him.
also, he was excommunicated from wu tang at one point because he would never show up to work on music/business.
i don't think there is really enough evidence leading to him being a victim of some conspiracy.
As usual, they mention the occasional smokescreen of 'drug overdose' to cover up their own doing since many buy into that bullcrap all the time…except for a few people like us here who know the real truth behind the demise of these whistle blowers.
May their souls rest in peace as their efforts to sound the alarm was never in vain even though most of them were rappers like Ol' Dirty himself right here who eventually turned out to be clean since the only thing 'dirty' about this is the hidden agenda of the elite who ritualistically wipe out these people.
Wonderful work VC, always keeping me vigilant with reports of these whistle blowers who were willing to risk their life for the truth.
Btw there is always some truth to what pple keep saying for example the illuminati..it dint just come out as a result of someone making stuff up.soo all of us should b aware of all this evil entities that are trying to bring us down lets put god first in all that we do for it is written in the bible in the book of revelation that satan will not triumph but GOD our mighty father will prevail.
P.S why do all this celebrities similarly die of drug use, isn't it strange.
tha only drug habbit we here about is the one the mainstream media reports he has, for all we kno he was a fuking genuis.
Something for us all to recall:
"Drug Habit" =/= "Of course they had an overdose."
It's like saying that fatal falls are by necessity non-suspicious if the victim is a roofer.
The government was after him because he was behind child support. He had so many babies by different women.
The usual lol.
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To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David.
1 Hear my voice, O God, in my complaint; guard and preserve my life from the terror of the enemy.
2 Hide me from the secret counsel and conspiracy of the ungodly, from the scheming of evildoers,
Bible Verse About Protection Because God is Strong
Matthew 16:18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
John 19:11 Jesus answered him, “You would have no authority over me at all unless it had been given you from above. Therefore he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin.”
2Thessalonians 3:3 But the Lord is faithful. He will establish you and guard you against the evil one.
1John 5:19 We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.
1Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.
Revelations 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
2Samuel 22:3-4 my God, my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold and my refuge, my savior; you save me from violence. 4 I call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised, and I am saved from my enemies.
Bible Quotes That Show God Will Never Leave Us
Matthew 28:18-20 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
Luke 12:32 “Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
Hebrews 13:5 Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”
Verses About Protection From Evil
Isaiah 41:10 fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
Isaiah 54:17 no weapon that is fashioned against you shall succeed, and you shall refute every tongue that rises against you in judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD and their vindication from me, declares the LORD.”
Psalm 46:1 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.
Psalm 91:1-3 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will abide in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say to the LORD, “My refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.” For he will deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the deadly pestilence.
Psalm 121:7-8 The LORD will keep you from all evil; he will keep your life. 8 The LORD will keep your going out and your coming in from this time forth and forevermore.
2Timothy 4:18 The Lord will rescue me from every evil deed and bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be the glory forever and ever. Amen.
Bible Verses On Protection
Romans 8:28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.
Ephesians 1:11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will,
Daniel 12:1 “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.
1John 5:18 We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep on sinning, but he who was born of God protects him, and the evil one does not touch him.
Psalm 138:7 Though I walk in the midst of trouble, you preserve my life; you stretch out your hand against the wrath of my enemies, and your right hand delivers me.
T. D. Jakes once said, “That thing that is not coming to you may seem good. But either the timing is wrong, or
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Who da hell is going to read all this crap? Keep it simple people!!
Look I like this site a lot and read the articles with an open mind and knowledge that many of the things said are or at least could be true. However many of you seem to want to discount personal choices that individuals make. ODB was a complicated guy with a host of issues including drug abuse. His drug abuse could easily lead to the behavior and things he said. If he wasn't known many of you wouldn't think twice about him and wouldn't attribute conspiracies to explain his death. I'm not saying the conspiracy can't be true but to discount a more plausible explanation to tout a more sensational one is a reach.
Just remember, blindly believing anything makes you just as much a sheep as those who put their heads in the sand. Use your brain, analyze these things, consider all the possibilities before trying to take an event and fit it into a conspiracy. The conspiracy will always seems sexier simply because it is more sensational and less provable. That however doesn't make it true.
Untimely death November 2004, at age 36!!!!
Sounds very timely to me, especially when November is a ritual murder month and 36 (divisble by 3) is a powerful Illuminati number.
ODB was a danger to the illuminati – but one of our heroes.
May he RIP.
He also died on the thirteenth day too. And it was a Saturday, meaning it had been very close to being Friday the Thirteenth.
Odb made a song that was never released called wasted time. And in it he talks heavily about his surroundings.
quite simple VC. He was killed by the secret society. You didnt know? Come on bro
The fact you have Snooki and Flu shot advertisments scars me..
Has any one read John Potash's book on the FBI involvement in the Tupac Shakur/Biggie Smalls wars… Fasciniating stuff. this goes right along with his argument…
All of you truth seekers have realized that their is an organized agenda of negativity. You've come here seeking validation for what you KNOW to be true. That is fine. Awareness of the elements of your surroundings is not a bad thing. But please do not wallow in this negativity it's got the same effect as if you were brain washed and following along with it. It consumes you just the same. It corrupts you just the same. And can embitter and hinder your personal journey and spiritual growth just the same. Love is so much stronger than hate. And you control your destiny. Dwell in the positive. Wallow in gratitude for all the beauty that still exists. Negativity never wins in the end. Your destiny is in your hands concentrate on what you want your life to be and not on these negative things. It all withers and dies without our attention. But that goes for good and bad. The good thing is you can always change direction.
Its part of the manipulation. To spread the negative energy, create panic. They feed off of it. That's also why most rituals happen around the same time of the year, and horrible (fake) events . . . . to create panic and make everyone scared. Satan feeds from it. I will not be controlled, however I will be aware and know thy enemy. Wake as many as possible. I love this outlook you have and I totally concur.
both posts are lovely, thanks for the reminder.
Yes the winter solistice this year was horrible, simply horrible. I spent most of it being (unsuccessfully) wooed by my ex who was (romantically) attired in the clothes of a friend of his who committed suicide a few months ago – negative energy can be counteracted – never doubt it.
That was a lovely post Grace – satan is the lord of negativity, false fears and irrational doubt.
hmm…. its not like they were your everyday people guys..
these were real hip hop Gangstars…they actually robbed or killed people this is where they came from..
and at the time they were making there way into mainstream influencing millions of people…
it makes sense that they are getting monitored…
and ODB knew that this was happing…
just like the mafia probably knows they get monitored as well….
thats what the FBI , CIA does ….monitor criminals…Gangstars…
but ODB Talked some lethal s**t no doubt
and takeing out a public figuire that speaks the truth while monitoring there gangsta rap group, that smokes blunts daily and is making money with this new Method Man of getting C.R.E.A.M in the music Industry, on the road to worldwide HIPHOP domination…
….dosnt hurt..and they are black so… …that gets them off..
They took him out.
Anyone notice how Wu-Tang Clan is initialized as WTC? World Trade Center is also initialized as WTC? What a coincidence… Maybe.
You only need to listen to Wu-Tang Clan's "Diesel" to hear what and who was going to take ODB out.
"someone help me please, they did 2-Pac in, they did Biggie in, the Government is after me, The CIA is after me…somebody help me please"
Wow
Not to mention all the lustful lyrics and videos.
Not to be of topic but I think we can all agree that we need some light shed on this surprise Beyonce album and why it was released on Friday the 13th of all days.
A nice day with meaning for a witch like Beyonce.
if we strip away historical/traditional labels issued by the culture/media to individuals or groups with subsequent anomalous tragedies or reported/suspected criminal actions and look clearly at the patterns of associations, actions, and statements a different picture of reality emerges.
this includes simplistic categories such as: Gangsters, Clergy, Military, Professors, Business Leaders, Rappers, Journalists, Law Enforcement, Social Organizations, Churches, Patriots, Performers, Community Organizers, Lawyers, Artists, Social Justice Activists, Technology or Scientific Experts, Teachers, and even broader labels such as: Illegal Immigrants, Minorities, the Disenfranchised, Underrepresented, Us, Them, etc…
it helps to analyze which position on the chessboard each may serve at any given time, and whome we are serving. sometimes we may even know we're on it, but we don't always know when we are expendable. things aren't always what they seem, even to the seeming cultivated among us.
In Groups and Out Groups are a part of the evolution of human nature, but one that may destroy us if we continue to allow such definitions to continue to divide on this scale.
"Take a man his reputation for probity, and the more shrewd and clever he is, the more hated and mistrusted he becomes."
–Cicero
That sounds pretty good, turnkey. You sound like someone who believes what VC is saying. Too bad for you I know better. Plant.
Guess it takes a "plant" too know a plant huh…Marshall you sound like a very jaded individual.
I think that turnkey is making excellent sense. Have anything substantial that suggests s/he is a plant?
Excellent post turnkey….
Wow, he wasn't crazy after all…maybe very paranoid with that knowing that they were after him. How sad.
This has been an eye opener
Guys, I just have to write this, as my brother was the person that ODB's mom called him, after he O.D. in New York, after returning there from Colorado..
My brother is a booking agent, & is good friends with Slick Rick, Mix Master Mike, DJ Quick, the Gza, DJ Muggs, & many others.
Remember, Gza is ODB's cousin, and We just saw him after a concert, back in August. -This conspiracy, is just unfortunate bad luck, (I am pretty sure)
What happened is that ODB, wanted some coke, during a 2 show stop in Colorado, got the Coke, said it sucked, wanted to go back to New York to get "real" coke, .. Proceeded to Sallow the sack he had in Colorado, got back to NY. started smoking .. the sack in his stomach, somehow opened, and he OD'd , while smoking…
Just needed to give you guys the run down of events, . I know it's sad, – and it sucks.
Thanks for that. I think that we have gone from one extreme (of assuming that all performers are off their head on drugs and heading for early death) to the other extreme (that they are almost clean living and completely innocent and if anything happens to them, it will necessarily be the fault of the Illuminati). The truth always lies between those two extremes. If we don't acknowledge that, there will be even more casualties as performers will forget their personal responsibility to clean up their acts and go straight into victim mode.
So,…would your brother say that ODB suffered from paranoid schizophrenia?…I know he had a drug problem, so did Whitney and Amy and many many others…all the more easier to make one's claim's look irrevelant. Do u believe there's no credence to his claims?
Just a thought. If he had $$ to buy coke at his leisure and got a hold of a bad batch, wouldn't he just flush it? Why swallow bad drugs on the way to get good drugs???? Story doesn't make sense. Perhaps Gza, who is still alive, is part of the misinformation train. Just a thought… It is easier to believe rappers are drug addicted stupid people than to believe that rappers are important to the agenda.
I have met a lot of cocaine-users in my life. The ones with the problems, well, you could crumble a paracetamol in front of them, and still they would try sniff it and hope it would work.
It was some cut ass coke, from some college kid…
He wanted the Raw Un Cut.
Thanks for confessing to the crime Math Maticks. You and your associates are the one who gave him the bad coke. You 'sallowed' the coke, possible using elements of the Salix cinerea, or common willow tree. Expect jailtime soon.
Jail time, is what the ODB was trying to avoid, while flying after 911, with cocaine,…..
Logic -Reason- Truth,
I didn't give him s**t.. I love ODB.
-Karma has a way to catch up with people,- that want to do right- -remember that..
I come to thinking karma takes a lot of time to do it, and even – maybe it is in an afterlife?
This is the life you live now, there is a reason for not knowing what's before or after.?.
Prove it.
My sentiments exactly. I don't understand why a bunch of ANONYMOUS name dropping nobodies come here and say "I knew this famous person who said this" or "I was connected and check it, this is what happened"…
CITE YOUR SOURCE, BE SPECIFIC and YOUR SOURCE SHOULD BE VERIFIABLE. If you donator can't or won't, its NOT fact, you are not INFORMED ABOVE OTHERS and HELLO it is your SUBJECTIVE opinion. Just like the rest of the comments here. So that means all the people who "had a friend of a friend who said" or "know the guy in the band who performed with JZ' or "used to be an industry pawn but now am enlightened and this is what I know" or "knew ODB's management and drug habits" are NOT SPECIAL or delivers of TRUTH.
They should READ about neurological FACT in regards to MEMORY.
MEMORY is shapeshifting and never accurate.
EGO is a very pathetic, inaccurate thing here.
@ Marshall Ramsey, -what crime sunn?
I'm just giving you the run down of what happened….. why is ODB's Mom, cousin, and the rest of the WU-Tang cool with us?
I hate the NWO/Illuminati, as much as anyone on this site.
they do the same with DMX
And Katt williams
Back in the day, didn't ODB call himself "Jesus" for a while, like our friend Kanye West does? I remember him using the name "Osiris" for a minute as well. Knowing what we know now about Osiris and Horus, and how there are parallels betw. Horus and Jesus, and how we are allegedly living in the so-called "Age of Horus," I find this quite significant. Why do these patterns keep repeating? (I realize this is a somewhat rhetorical question.)
It would be interesting for VC to explore the connections between hip-hop, the use of alters (after all, most rappers ARE, in fact, alter egos), and the constant use of religious imagery and nomenclature. Why do so many rappers want to be Jesus?
Check out "five percent nation". I think that would help answer your question.
Yes and Kanye West did say that George Bush is not for black people on national t.v. so Kanye better be careful because lately he is becoming very 'crazy' and 'delusional' similar to ODB.
Not to take the fun out of things but the Wu Tang were infiltrated by the FBI because of the MASSIVE cult-like following they had behind them. These guys were the Black Beatles. You couldn't go ANYWHERE on the face of the earth without hearing about the Wu-Tang. As far as being involved in crime, alot of criminals (amongst other people) wore Wu-Tang shirts and gear back then. Despite method man thinking it was some s**t, Wu-Wear was very popular. Anybody could have gotten arrested with some Wu stuff on and automatically be associated with them. ODB was very smart despite his demeanor. When you have a man like that, in a group that BIG, speaking out against the govt, hes sure to be targeted. Look at 2pac for the example of all examples. Pac wanted young black males to step up and be men….strong men. Govt didn't want to hear that bullshit. The most dangerous black man is an intelligent black man.
Like Obama? Looool
Whoever said anything about Obama being intelligent? It doesn't take too much intelligence to read from notes delivered by Congress? Name an example of ANY president actually using intelligence……Lincoln and JFK. Period. The black men who DID have mass intelligence….MLK, Malcom, Bob Marley, 2pac…..all dead.
Much peace to what you scribed K. Wayne…however, in regards to your last sentence. "The most dangerous black man is an intelligent black man"…is not quite correct. Intelligence would begin from one knowing oneself as in identity, the word black is an adjective meaning it can only describe something 'not' be it's identity. The term African American is a designation of two continents, it also is 'not' an identity…We as people would be considered nouns. In fact the term minority is used as in 'minor' which is also applied to (brown skinned indigenous people of the Americas as well as universally) because they are thinking with a lesser mind, as in the mind of a child who don't know and therefor cannot declare their proper nationality. We are an ancient people, the term 'black' is a modern term and you can't take a modern term and retroactively apply that modern term to an ancient people. We are Moors, Pac was cool, but he was also a bit misled as well, but he was used and sacrificed, such as AAliyah, Lisa Eye, Marylin Monroe (Norma Jean), Anna Nicole Smith, Michale Clark Duncan, Whitney Houston, Amy Winehouse, Brittany Murphy, Lennon and Hendrix and lots of others Paul Walker–The Kid from the fast and the furious who just died. With all of the industry's 'sacrificing' going on and with Professor Griff exposing the industry the way he has, I'd keep my distance from P.E. Also the Gov't knows exactly who you are, they have studied us quite well…for it is from our virtues that they attempt to govern. It is no accident that the Supreme authority of the land as in (LAW) is the organic constitution for The United States [of] America penned by Moors, as well as The Treaty of Peace and Friendship. if you refer to yourself as 'black' or 'african American' or Latin or Indian as well as many other labels, study…peace
The most dangerous black man would be one who no longer refers to himself as a label, or an adjective…but one who would be VERY WELL studied and declare his Moorish nationality.
Interesting! Ill Have to read up on that. Thanks for that incite…I am always open to learning new things.
Can you tell me more about the Moors. Or maybe tell me where I can find more about this. I read the article about the moors and latin america. Also been to santo Domingo in the DR and saw a lot. I am originally from North Africa (morocco), but I'm born and raised in europe
Moors? Moors refers to Northern Africans from Morocco and other places. Not all people of African descent are moors.
Why target just him, when it was a band? RZA and Method Man have always struck me as shills. I may be wrong.
Is that Method Man in the video above sitting next to ODB? I couldn't help but LOL when he was clearly trying to save his a** by contradicting ODB and saying, "Not me. I love the CIA, I love the gov't, I love the FBI…."
Oh How this story lines up with the rules "They" play by! Destroy reputation, introduce missinfromation and then divison and finaly some non-violent death that brings suppension but no hard proof of Homiside. U KNOW! smh! The Enemy is VERY Good at The ART OF WAR!! Demestic n Forein !
If anyone wants to understand the role Jay Z plays please google "Prodigy's letter to Jay Z' and read it……
Peace, Love and Unity x
there is a movie that looks at how movements were thwarted by authorities in the past in the USA, called COINTELPRO 101. It is a documentary by Freedom Archives.
Thanks for mentioning it, I'll check it out.
Thanks VC for the article .. I've always wondered about the seemingly off connection between ODB and Mariah Carey. From everything I've read, she really leaned on him for comfort and safety. If I'm not mistaken, she even picked him up from prison .. It makes sense when you think about ODB as a thug a** dude who can not only stand up for himself and others, but at the same time is also very aware of the controlling and evil reality that Mariah is forced to participate in. He all of a sudden seems like the perfect escape for her. A closing thought.. ODB might have been might have become a target due to the threat of taking away Mariah from those powerful individuals who use her as their social pawn and personal slave… the influence of his music pales in comparison to the value Mariah brought, and, due to the death of ODB, continues to bring, to select members of the elite..
Thank you for all your work it is truly needed.
Yah bless
Illegal possession of body armour? wtf? So it's illegal to protect yourself?
its illegal to posses body armor or weapons when you are a convicted felon
Convicted felon or not he was shot several times. I'd wear body armor too!!
ODB was involved in all kinds of illegal activity. Food stamp fraud, pictures of him cooking crack in his own album jackets, attempted murder, not paying child support, etc…etc…"Shame on you". Sorry, if you are committing Federal crimes, there's a good chance the Federal cops (FBI) are going to look at you. Gun running and laundering money through the label are the charges that probably got the Feds interested.
FWIW, the FBI might have some Illuminati elements to it, but it's not the shadow government. The FBI is Federal Police. The FBI is not quite like the CIA, DARPA, IAO, NSA, etc….
Ha so the fbi isn't part of America's corrupt chain of command?
I heard that it was originally supposed to be named the Federal Bureau of INQUISITION.
Wonder why they changed it…?
Mr. Goodsalt,
You should watch a doc called "Strange Culture"
The FBI is very much an extension of the collective shadow, don't be irresponsible suggesting otherwise…
Besides. we are not really discussing the persecution of ODB by the FBI. We are discussing if they played a role in his death.
I might be alone in this but….I do not agree that a society should ever judge then condemn another human to death and administer that death. To me, that is not civilized and to close to playing God for my comfort. This is what we are really discussing. Did the FBI, CIA or other aspect of USA shadow government kill ODB?
I think they did. And I do not think they did for cooking crack, skipping baby & baby mama payments & income tax evasion.
What do you think? Now that we all agree ODB wasn't a law abiding citizen.
I don't believe you're correct. I am certain that much of the Bureau don't know exactly what they're working for, but they are a part of the same establishment as all of these other groups.
And they have *always* been under the control of the Illuminati. Think about it: they control every "investigation" into staged terror attacks like 9/11, 7/7, the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary, and the bombings at the marathon. They were deeply involved in the political assassinations of the sixties and headed the official 'investigations' of each one. They destroy and manipulate evidence, intimidate witnesses, and infiltrate allegedly 'subversive' groups (including your local group of flower-power lefties). They were behind much of the surveillance operations against Martin Luther King. They were also monitoring John Lennon and many other stars targeted by the ruling elite.
J. Edgar Hoover was known as the most decorated Freemason in Washington. You can find photographs of him wearing a Masonic fez. He was close to Interpol and a friend of Heinrich Himmler until (officially) 1939. Currently the FBI is under the direction of James Comey, who was formerly an executive of Lockheed Martin, the largest military contractor in the world.
The system is on it, man. Not simply groups like CIA and NSA that are overtly suspicious. The local police departments are themselves outlets through which the Illuminati exercise influence. Look at how many of these cases involve the police as an accessory in the cover-up. These agencies are like secret societies, with an inner core and an outer one. Not everyone in them knows the score, and others have an inkling of it but aren't going to destroy their careers, lives and (very understandably) loved ones to blow the whistle, especially when it seems pointless given that the media matrix will simply savage them as 'mentally ill' or something.
There are many out there now committing the same crimes….but there's one difference. They stay in their place. They are obedient and are allowed to do as they wish without consequences, as long as they play their role.
If he was involved in all of these illegal activities, and was being monitored, then why didn't he end up in jail?
Just think about it
look at the interviews with tupac and snoop cheeta or whatever…he stood quiet while tupac talked about some s**t like this. the interviews with biggie and p dicky or whatever his f*****g name is..he stood quiet while biggie spoke. snoop and diddy were in on it and tupac and biggie were sacraficed so that these p***y motherfuckers could take over and brainwash the ones who listened.its upsetting and its our own fault. tupac straight up told us what was going on and no one listened. he was no thug he was a performance artist and he was no rapper he was a poet. he tried to tell us and no one really listened
I remember that MTV award interview with Pac & snoop. I felt in my soul snoop was shady & looked guilty as hell. He didn't say s**t during the whole interview. Then the next day Pac was shot. P.Dumbass was an instigator when Big was saying he didn't want any beef with Pac. Both were set up to be removed. After their deaths, rap music has totally gone downhill.
Snoop was not involved in Tupac's shooting,Snoop knew what was planned for Pac,but he couldnt tell him and he was scared shook.Just like Puff and Big,Puff was scared and he couldnt believe that his friend was going to get killed over some stupid s**t.
same thing with PIMP C, Tupac, BIGGIE and JOHN LENNON. These folks knew that NOTHING in that industry is free. Jay, Kanye and Beyoncé know that better than everyone, why u think they still alive…..
Correct Faith. If anyone wants to understand the role Jay Z plays please google "Prodigy's letter to Jay Z' and read it……
Peace, Love and Unity x
I stumbled upon this letter the other day. Truly chilling. And I believe him 100%.
The letter is too raw to not be real. You can feel his words.
I read it a while back, Jay doesn't care, him and EVERYONE around him is about that money. He has made that perfectly clear.
Love everyone, trust no one.
Trust no one, suspect everyone…
If it's possible that he was silenced? Of course it's possible.
People who tells the truth out loud, people who points the wrongness of the system, they all are KILLED. If they killed a f*****g president [JFK], then a rapper [or a journalist like HASTINGS] would be like snap of fingers. They killed CHICO MENDES, they killed Sister DOROTHY STANG and many, many others here in Brasil. What those dead people have in common? They dared to speak the truth, they dared to fight the system, they dared to embarass the government.
This s**t have been this way since the dawn of times.
great article VC I hope you Gus keep coming with quick post. I've been wondering where you've been. Glad this can get me back on track trying to expose the evils in this world God Bless
Sounds a lot like what happened to Katt Williams in recent years. And many others. It's possible that someone was after him, although I don't see why he would've been considered THAT much of a threat, esp. since acted the fool most of the time. Then again, you know what they say about the Fool.
exactly
Im beginning 2 think that while yea celebs have unlimited access 2 drugs not all celebs died frm a self induced overdose. I think tha evil powers that be used their vices and killed them with it
He knew too much and nobody believed him. Now look, the picture painted of him was that he was a drunk crackhead. Out of all of the members of the clan, he probably was one of he smartest. There is an interview with him and Method Man and Meth wanted nothing to do with what ODB was talking about. Nobody did. RIP Big Baby Jesus.
I saw this particular interview and Meth was afraid he kept saying " I didn't say that" " I didn't say this" and "Don't come after me" this is factual, you can't hide fear. He knew exactly what was happening to ODB!!!!
I also think Tony Scott the director of Top Gun and Enemy of the state was another victim
Yes I read something quickly about him this is strange as well. Jumping from a bridge to his death because of a health issue which his family denies the rumor of it.
Poor ODB, couldn't stay off the radar.
This world is full of hate-mongering evil entities trying to take humanity down.
Be aware, stay positive and don't let fear take away your control.
There is still good in this world!!!!!!
Thanks to vigilant for uniting like-minded thinkers.
Do you really think that odb had anything positive to add to the world? Their rap outfit had nothing good to say about life, and were quite misogynistic at that. I heard that he died of a heart attack due to crack. Crack will make a person insane, but I don't think it was just the drugs. Most rappers are involved with tons of illegal things. The government probably knew about his illegal dealings. His paranoia was right on. Maybe he actually felt guilty of something? These " gangster" rappers are bad news. If you want to play, you have to pay….
I don't know if anyone will remember this, but when ODB was in jail http://www.wutang.com had a headline saying "ODB is convinced someone from the government wants him dead" There was a small write up saying that ODB was going paranoid in jail and that he's in trouble. Nothing much was ever said about that.
He seems very paranoid. The most likely explanation is that his extreme drug abuse fed his delusions.
you're an idiot and the reason why "they" will always control us is people like you keep us divided. do not assume to understand all perspectives from your own. there is only one enemy. one truth.
I agree there IS an ultimate truth—-but no need to get arrogant and nasty on those that have a different opinion than you, buddy. rather, state your turth and hope they are open to it. Quit the arrogance.
y not insult him. did he not state his opinion with an insult on a man he has no clue about ? opinion is what it is.
Please, no insults. I'm not seeking to 'divide' you nor claim that I 'understand all perspectives from your own'. I simply suggest that the most likely reason for his persecution complex (for want of a better phrase) is his drug abuse.
I don't quite understand where you are coming from with your argument. Are you saying that the 'one truth' is what is written here?
Man, you really are numb.Excuse me-dumb.
How do you know about his drug use?
Drug abuse could lead to paranoid delusional thoughts, but how do you know what drugs he was on?
It's also not a secret that the FBI follows and monitors musicians. Go watch The US vs. John Lennon and see actual FBI agents talk about how what they were doing was wrong. Everyone told John Lennon he was crazy too, but it actually was going on and he ended being shot walking into his home. So if something is really trying to kill you, is it still a delusion?
Please tell me how you came to the conclusion that the "most likely" explanation is "extreme drug abuse". Please give your "truth" with some evidence.
Yoo guys does anyone reealize that these are gangstas i mean they where real gangstas
they where about that money they robbed or killed you in the hood thats where they from
dont act like ODB was some tupac yo…all you need to get paranoid is weed with some f****d s**t in there and an unstable enviremont thats it
and the hood is that eniremont ….Traumas on the daily….
he was proper paranoid…. but they were on him they were on the hole crew..he just talked t much…
that was the problem…
Louie, haven't you ever noticed that all the ones that have died always "seem" to have some kind of drug problem before they go down, people always say that their crazy, but if you notice their "so called" random crazy rants, are always about the same thing such as secret societies, illuminati, someone trying to control them, Being watched, the government, the CIA, are you going to suggest it's all a coincidence? Don't believe us, do your research you'll be surprised at what you'll find.
Well according to wiki his death was caused by a drug overdose. So that would suggest this is what they want us to believe.
I say keep your eyes on Jesus! He is the way, the truth and the light.
Again a post stating drug use is the most likely cause for a paranoid behaviour… There is a lot to learn about the world behind the headlines for a lot of people. Did you not read the words around the word drug, or have you never met anyone who is not on drugs but behaves different than you or your relations? No offence, but with a full fbi report on this webpage, still making that suggestion makes me think you are on the start of an delerious journey when you click some more pages here.
I bet his 'extreme drug abuse' created the FBI file, huh? It makes me so frustrated that you and apparently 11 other people who upped your comment could read absolute documentary proof that he was being watched, then talk about his drug-fueled 'delusions.' You're behaving like a software program on legs, as David Icke might say. Our social programming dictates we're automatically supposed to think that someone is 'paranoid' because they say they're being targeted. It must be a 'delusion' or a 'persecution complex.' Very convenient that the latter term seems to have been tailor-made to discredit people targeted by a conspiracy. Almost like that was the reason why it was entered into the lexicon.
As someone who has smoked pot and moved in those circles, the attitude toward their use is hilarious to me. The average smoke session isn't filled with people talking about purple dragons, reptoid greys, and buses on legs. If one of them says "So I heard from Sara that Dave said whatever," I'm probably going to believe them. I laugh at the people who dismiss everything someone says because they have a drug habit. More social programming showing.
It's simply a way for the intellectually lazy to dismiss every inconvenient word they utter, whether they be sober or high. I don't mean to insult you, but it just seems like such a cliche, socially programmed response, especially when VC just featured documentary *proof* that he was not deluded in saying that the government was interested in him.
Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. ODB was absolutely right the music industry is brainwashing kids which probably upset the government since they bow to CFR head David Rockefeller. It's on record that the Rockefeller Family foundation (1954 Rockefeller yearly report) has been doing mind control on the public since the riots of the world of the wars broadcast by Orson Welles. CIA runs The entertainment industry under Operation Mockingbird and ODB, 2pac, Pimp C, etc… were all drug users but they were most likely killed by government regardless if you think it was delusions.
See now ur assuming things like then tamper f***s
Wow another victime rest in peace OBD.nthanks for the info vigilant!
It's unlawful to have body armor now? since when?
As far as I am aware, it's not illegal to own it but it is illegal in some states to wear hard plates in public.
its not,you can own body armor.
Its illegal in NY if you have a record as ODB did.
For a convicted felon in NYC it is
Rap singers kill each other for stupid rivalries. There are many documented cases (unless they are all staged).
I don't know why a powerful government would kill a single man. What menace could a rapper be for the US government ?
Are you serious?
Getting YOUNG PEOPLE (or people in general) to get their heads out of their behinds and notice what is happening across the world. This SCARES governments. They want everyone in line with discipline and order.
Jay-Z and his disciples are helping numb the minds of youth.
I feel you for real…
I wish i could thumbs up your comment 100xs!!!
Totally agree. Also, ONE person can have alot of power… ex. John Lennon.
Wow! You are really asleep. Before speaking please research.
And before you reply, read carefully what I write.
WHERE IN MY COMMENT DID I SAY THE GOVERNMENT DIDN'T KILL HIM?
My first sentence is a statement, the second, a question. Rappers live in a world of drugs and violence, and they have rivalries and fight about that all the time. This is a fact, not my conclusion. I guess Ol' Dirty Bastard might have had an issue of this kind.
About the question I raised, I still don't get why the government would kill him. He was no congressman or any person with any political power. TV shows make mockery of many government problems and neither their actors or directors are dead. Musicians do it a lot, metal music the best example. Dave Mustaine from Megadeth criticizes the government and its corruption in at least 80% of his songs. And he is not dead.
I understand the government is corrupt and dark, but you don't have to think necessarily that if an artist or actor is dead is because the evil government or the Illuminati killed them. People die, you know? Maybe an accident? A fight? Drug overdose? Huh?
I'm pretty sure he knew what he was talking 'bout when HE said the gov wants to shut him up, and that he wasn't crazy.He wouldn't be saying that if he was in a gang fight or smtg, would he?
Theres something about music though that effects people. Music can effect mood, and can have a hypnotic effect where once the listener is relaxed you can speak to their subconscious.
If you look back at the 60's John Lennon was placed on that FBI CIA watch list and was monitored and followed. The government got a first hand look at how a music act could influence a whole nation. John Lennon was speaking about peace and since he had the platform of The Beatles people where actually listening, they were taking to the streets and protesting all while singing the lyrics of John Lennnon "All we are saying, is give Peace a chance." I'm not trying to say I know everything but John Lennon was murdered years later, and after him it seems like musicians drop like flies.
Also Rap music is the new Rock and Roll. Rap and hip hop run the culture right now so the government knows they are the most powerful musicians. Tupac was killed when he started talking about Killuminati, Pimp C was killed after he got out of jail and started talking about secret societies, and now we got ODB this is crazy. I don't think its a coincidence, I don't buy it.
If it was a coincidence then tell me why pop music is the way it is. Nobody has any social commentary in their music, it's all the same repetitive bs. ODB was right when he said this music is brainwashing people. Just look at our youth.
I will agree with you that we shouldn't jump to any conclusions, I just think you are belittling the evidence, and making comparisons that aren't relevant. I appreciate the discussion though.
know this: john lennon and the beatles were a tavistock institute experiment using music to manipulate and mind control people. if john lennon was on an fbi cia list he was on a royal society one first. after a while he appeared to tire of his masters and started on the 'peace' bandwagon. yoko ono was his handler and the dark side got him in the end.
in the year 1987 in latinamerica during a visit of the pope, a person read a prayer in front of the crowd (and the pope) .
this person wasnt a congressman,or someone with political power, he was an average young men, he said:
"we believe you can deliver a mesage to the elite to leave behind the pride and selfishness and stop killing us in the poor neighborhoods,and treat us like brothers"
he was kidnapped by the cni (secret service during pinochet era), beaten until he fainted, he acted like he was death and they stopped beating him.he regrets to this day what he said to the pope and the crowd.
i think if you are a young male , you are addressing to other young males that is the problem.
Well the government probably didn't kill him . They monoitor a lot of people, but that doesn't mean when that person has died the government has killed them. That's a non sequentor. And for all those who keep repeating the mantra of "do some research", well reading conspiracy stuff on the internet doesn't really qualify as research, neither does letting your imaginations run wild.
If you are a christian then concentrate on the answer, Christ. Nothing that any government agency, shadowy occult societies, anorexic models, mediocre rappers, perverted photographers, or svengali music moguls can do will ever take that away from you.
You're right Micheal, they can't take Christ away from us, but it doesn't make it any easier to fathom that this is what is really going on, and it's still really heart breaking every time something like this happens.
If there is a God, He/She gave me a brain and a pair of hands. Our future is in Our hands. This site has helped me understand the world a lot, and I believe freeing your mind is a big step towards freedom of the soul. Ironically, the Hermetic stuff I've been studying actually makes a lot of sense, its just been hijacked by very sick people. The people of this world are surely protected as one and our ways of interpreting it vary due to geography, but it all comes back to love I think, not Christ. However we are all free to believe as we wish and mine change like the wind. Are the Aborigines wrong, the N. American Indians, The Catholics, The Vikings, The Muslims?? No, they are all right. Different strokes for different folks. What is wrong is the subversion of all these faiths and our inability to just Be, rather than be a this, that or the other!
Who's to say what is and what's not conspiracy? Doing research gives us the ability to get as much information as we can .It is then up to us as individuals to decipher and choose what's reasonable .We have to come up with our own conclusions as to not be persuaded by any one form of info coming from only one source.If we don't research we just spew ignorance and even then who knows 100% what's fact or fiction.I do agree with you that Christ is the answer yet many who don't believe may tell you that believing in Christ is allowing their imaginations run wild or that Christ is a conspiracy theory .
Response to Michael Sean
ChrisNajar, let me splain. Certain, special and often overlooked vocalist artist live in a world of poverty. You can insert "drugs and violence" if you like but really, you meant to say "Rappers live in a world of drugs and violence as a means to cope with poverty and racism". I know you meant to say that. It is societal fact. The poorest of the poor kinds of vocalist artists are usually around drugs and violence. You neglect to confront the fact that often, these children, before they become famous rappers, have no say in their environment. They know nothing other than poverty, abuse and societal rejection.
They are also usually minorities.
Poor minorities account for more of the population than rich Europeans. So you ask (I know you meant to ask) why would the government kill someone as insignificant as ODB?
Power.
Why would the government go after the founder of Reddit?
If you empower the poor, the youth or the oppressed, you are a threat. They don't take us all out because we are revenue. They cherry pick who to murder and if you are powerful and persuasive, ESPECIALLY with minorities and youth, you are an enemy.
Dave Mustaine is a critic. Not an organizer. ODB was. That is why he is dead. Dave Mustaine should get off the stage and start organizing, since he has such a strong anti-government opinion.
John Noveske was murdered by the government, for the same reasons ODB was. He was powerful and could organize people of like-minds who pose a collective threat to the governments agenda of passive enslavement/consumerism.
Apologies. Dave Mustaine from Megadeth is just blow hard. Probably came from middle class angst. Most of the world relates to poverty. Middle class angst is kinda a niche thing, you know?
In closing, it is obvious that, because you are a Megadeth fan, you can relate to middle class angst and not poverty. Recognize the difference and the fact that, your whole POINT in speaking about about this is COUNTER PRODUCTIVE.
You are welcome.
Perfectly explained!!!!!!! You sound like a person who isn't judgmental or go off stereotypes.
Not judgmental? You're high!!! This dude just typified white ppl as being all rich and or middle class. Where I live in Oregon, many of the minorities are far more rich than white ppl, so sorry this person is completely judgmental AND MASS STEREOTYPING.
My great friend is in a major rock band which was performing at a big rock festival where Jay Z was also performing. Not knowing the scene at all, I naively asked him why JayZ would be playing at a festival crammed full of white, middle-class kids. He was surprised that I did not know that white, middle class kids are the main consumers of commercial rap. To that extent, I guess it is enormously influential upon the same demographic as it was before. In everyday life, I still find it hard to grasp but I sure believe it.
Numbers are My Game, no, I did not qualify all white "ppl" as being rich or middle class.
So being from Oregon, you know about Noveske, right?
Let me re-state: If you empower the poor, the youth or the oppressed, you are a threat to the system that enslaves us all.
I live in reality. So sorry if you perceive this as judgement.
White middle class kids are not the main consumers of commercial rap. You are such a dumb, pretentious slag, your name dropping and just…pretentious way of commenting makes me SICK.
How about you site your source, outside of some he-said-she-said, your great friend in a major rock band who performs with JZ.
You are so pathetic. Its hilarious.
@Face in the crowd……Calm down you were almost there with your point now you are showing that you get offended easily if others don't agree with you.Soothe your ego by accepting others may disagree it's not that serious we are all here with different mind sets .Don't get SICK over typed comments lol
Good advice – they use that technique during pitbull training.
as a huge Megadeth fan, and a product of "middle class angst", i commend u on your statement. I never thought of it in those terms, but i think u nailed it to the wall man. Sincerely, thank you for taking time to reply to the OP so thoughtfully.
You poor brainwashed, deluded FOOL! Why come on this site and say something so stupid?! He was killed by the government because he knew what they were up to! Any person who has some kind of influence on young people or people in general that exposes these sick twisted governments gets murdered in suspicious ways?! Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Marylyn Monroe, Heath Ledger, Amy Winehouse ( and countless others) all these ppl don't die by accident overdose like the media reports they are sacrificed because they know the truth and plan on telling it! Research before you open your mouth! You clearly know nothing of rap music?! Just what the media tells you!
most rappers now are not actual drug dealing violent gangsters. they are paid to make it look cool to certain demographics imo.
Not always does the main act start to use the drugs. One way of starting a drug habit is via ''normal'' medication. Without consent. And the druggy-look, well, more than one designer has tried to cool it up. Even streetcred can be bought for a nice picture show.
You're blanketing and labeling all rappers and you cannot do that. That alone makes it hard for you to be taken seriously. There are tons of rappers that don't live in drugs and violence. There are tons that didn't grow up in that atmosphere either. There are tons that don't rappers about it too. So it is not a fact. That's YOUR conclusion and opinion. A distorted opinion at that.
You use tv shows, actors, and directors as an example, but you forget there's a script involved. Lol. Why would the government be interested in taking them out?
It is one thing to criticize them in song, but to witness and live it then speak against it is a problem. It makes rappers credible.
Of course people die, but to wind up deceased after mentioning, campaigning, speaking against them and their network is eyebrow raising.
You're wrong all across the board, and should become knowledgeable in what you're talking about instead of commenting as if it is stone cold 100% factual sweetie.
your not very smart ChrisNajar
ONE man, and the power of music can reach the masses, especially if you spread a message that
the gov doesn't like or goes against their "PLAN"
the most powerful music icon in the world was killed and the media was used to make us believe he killed himself via Drug use…… oh if you dont know his name its MICHAEL JACKSON
his later album had hidden messages to warn us about the Machine…
MUSIC IS A UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE it reaches a broader audience of many cultures and languages
wake up sir, cause you sure are asleep
They control the minds of the masses and the children through music and television, you don't think taking Biggie and Pac out was important? They couldn't have two rappers completely out of their control, not willing to contribute to the occult agenda, building empires in the rap industry. So they killed them and let Jay Z and Dre take over, both willing puppets. There is evidence the kill order came from one of the New York families with law enforcements help. In fact when one officer discovered this evidence during his investigation he was kicked off the force.
Well if only Biggy and Tupac were really that culturally significant…they weren't. Only in an age of pop culture can two rappers have such delusional conspiracy theories created about them. They weren't shinning a light on anything other than their bank accounts and egos.
There's all kinds of evidence to suggest all kinds of things from a police officer hitman/ muslim assassin/ gangsters/ revenge feud/ Death Row inside job. Anything can be extrapolated from the reams of so called evidence and counter evidence. It's occams razor…which means occult mass conspiracy is probably at the bottom of the pile of the miriad of reasons they were offed.
youre crazy if you dont think they were culturally significant. if you existed in the 90s you knew who they were and they mattered. especially amongst marginalized groups…and if you think they were only talking about their bank accounts then you dont know their music.
Occam's razor? So the simplest explanation is that ordinary thug gangsters managed to take out two well known rappers with security, in the middle of tons of people, Tupac even being on the Las Vegas strip with all the lights, and in both cases managed to get away with no witnesses or any evidence that could lead police to a suspect? Sure lol.
He was killed because he discovered that the elite were using rap music to destroy black people. He realized he was a pawn to corrupt the minds of the youth. When he realized this he began to speak about it. That is why they killed him.
There's a long, long list of powerful government killing a single man. Just a taste, JFK, John Lennon, Brittany Murphy and husband, David Carradine.. Are you new to this site?
I WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS, THEY DON'T GIVE A F**K ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYEES LET ALONE THE MASSES. THE GOVERNMENT ONLY PROTECTS ITSELF NOT US! IF THE GOVERNMENT FEELS AS IF YOU KNOW TOO MUCH INFORMATION OR YOU TALKING TOO MUCH OR YOU DON'T DO AS THEY SAY…THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES! THIS WORLD WE ALL WERE BORN IN IS FULL OF SIN. THE DEVIL IS BUSY….(ILLUMINATI) THEY WORSHIP SATAN USING GOD'S WORD…I WORK WITH MASONS AND EASTERN STARS…ITS CRAZY!
And why do you work 4 them?
probably cause we all need eat, don't we?
if one works for evil they're just as evil.
Please, look at yourself in a mirror for more than an hour and then say the same thing again ..
and again.
Yeah, but that's not like only job in the country she can find and do. I think that moral comes first.
HOW DID YOU FIND THIS WEBSITE???
words are weapons, my friend. a rapper who is powerful enough could convince a whole nation to turn their backs on their government.
That's what people want you to believe that the crazy Negros are all violent and shooting each other because they couldn't possibly be important enough for the government to care about killing…right (I'm black btw) and I work within the criminal justice system. It's a very hard thing for many ppl to grasp and understand because many ppl are blind or want to be blind to the fact that racism is very much a live, but there are many things done in America to destroy black men. Prior to a secret meeting being held by industry higher-ups groups like Public Enemy (just for example) were putting out music about black unity, togetherness, community, and the importance of respecting each other. During the meeting I mentioned it was literally discussed how rap music had become very popular and how it could be used to destroy blacks instead of being empowering for them and then suddenly following that meeting came what's known as "gangsta rap" snoop dog, dr. dre, eze e, ice cue (know as NWA n****s with attitude) all these ppl just to name a few helped to usher in the music that is rap now, guns, violence, sex, dope dealing, calling women bi*ches and hoes. None of that was the rap of yesteryear that wasn't what was popular prior…it was a fully laid out plan to use rap music and it's influence from clothing to social life to destroy the black community by destroying the young black males. I work with them and you should see how they try to live the lyrics in real life, they feel that if you've never been to jail then you're not tough, you're not a man. Music is very powerful, they feel selling drugs is admirable, smh. I can go deep, but it would be too long for you to read. Don't be naive, a rapper can be a HUGE menace to the government especially if they start laying out plans that can cause black ppl to own huge stakes in the record industry, trade, clothing etc. (I'm not saying ODB was doing these things) I'm just making a point that there have been cases where black people were planning very large business ventures that would've given the white industry higher ups competition and those people either turned up dead or all got locked up and thrown in jail. Research it. It's true. Don't think a rapper is a nobody to the government lol.
Preach!!!!!!
Links to the many documented cases?
Yeah, sometimes rappers kill rappers, but sometimes store clerks kill store clerks.. Doesn't prove anything..
In most cases, rappers wasn't killed by other rappers, they were killed by random hood punks. Actually they try to escape that environment by making it as rappers.
For the record, most rap rivalries are created to generate album and merchandise sales. There is usually no real beef, and it all blows over once the hype of the artists dies down a bit. And why would the government want some inspirational black male educating music listeners on how to change the world when they're happy with the way the world is and the control they have over it now? Good question. Ask Tupac, Kurt Cobain or JFK. Oh wait…they're all dead. Rosie O'donnell might have some answers but you better catch her while she's still alive.
Talk to'em!
I can't name two rappers that have killed one another. The rivalries occur on wax and interviews. Please let me know of the many documented cases of this.
It is the listener or fans of these artists that take the so called beef to another level. The need to represent where one is from and diss whomever isn't. I.e. east coast vs. west coast beef.
What menace could a rapper be for the U.S.??!! They are very influential, and can enlighten others via song. There are many conscious rappers but I'll use the most known as an example. Ever heard of 2pac? Ever listen to his interviews or music? He was blowing the whistle non stop to awaken the masses.
Lupe Fiasco, Dead Prez, Common, Public Enemy, KRS1, Goodie Mob, NWA, etc.
I can't take you serious. Your comment was comical!
The idea that music and media can be used as a medium of social engineering is nothing new. If the reported 1991 events penned by an alleged former music industry executive are true, it’s a theory which could prove to have been played for the profitable prison industry. According to the anonymous author, a plot was orchestrated to commission gangsta rap to influence and encourage crime to benefit the prison industry – leading to gangsta rap’s one time takeover of the airwaves.
Here’s what a source recently had to say, which may support the author’s shocking allegations:
“Wu-Tang Clan’s Ol’ Dirty Bastard was ‘heavily involved’ in ‘murder, car-jackings … and the sale of drugs [and] illegal guns’, according to a newly released FBI report.
The FBI’s 93-page file on ODB, revealed in a Freedom of Information request, connects the rapper with a litany of serious crimes in the late 80s and 90s. But if the FBI had so much on Ol’ Dirty Bastard, why wasn’t he taken down? Simple: he was reinforcing a status quo that our CIA was totally cool with.”
You may remember back in April of this year, a letter titled ‘The Secret Meeting That Changed Rap Music And Destroyed A Generation‘ went viral. In the letter, the author admits to have played a role in the plot he reveals, pointing to his lingering guilt as what sparked him to unmask what he says are the true happenings of secret meetings involving a set of music industry moguls at a private residence on the outskirts of Los Angeles. According to the author, that’s where the 1991 conspiracy between the music industry and the private prison industry was born.
To be sure, in March 1991, ‘The Godfather of Gangsta Rap’ – rapper Eazy-E – accepted an invitation to the White House for a luncheon benefiting the Republican Senatorial Inner Circle, hosted by President George H. W. Bush. Though Easy-E announced he wasn’t a republican, the rapper was reported to back Bush for overseeing Operation Desert Storm – and the Godfather of Gangsta Rap made a $15,000 political donation “for a million dollars worth of press”.
One year later, the lyrical content of N.W.A’s final album ‘Niggaz 4 Life’ provoked outrage from many liberals and conservatives alike. That’s just four-years after Easy-E and Jerry Heller joined forces in March 1987 to launch Ruthless Records – a company said to have been born from Easy-E’s profits from drug sales.
You may recall before the rapper’s March 1995 death, Easy-E was criticized for conspiring with Jerry Heller to take money away from the other members of NWA. Now, new information could reveal that may not have been the only plan Easy-E conspired to help plot.
Sources tell HSK, the rapper dubbed gangsta rap music’s ‘Godfather’, Jerry Heller and L.A. Reid may have been three of the almost 30 attendees involved in ‘the secret meeting that changed rap music and destroyed a generation’.
First of there famous n therefore heard throughout the world nt one man bt the voice of millions…boy u aint smary
When you enter into the music industry, you are presented with a sell your soul to the devil situation if you will. See artist don't don't get signed for their talent any more these days, the elite occultist pick them based on intelligence, charisma, which is one characteristic that Satan uses as symbolism of enlightenment. How popular they will become or how well they will be received by the people of America. The talent is over looked and then it turns into an issue of modern day slavery. This reply is my opinion and it isn't necessarily fact but to me it makes since. When Lucifer was created as Lucifer he was a good angel. This is before the attempt to lover throw God in heaven. He was the bearer of light, also he was the angel of music. Satan uses music today to rebel and historically have in a spiritual sense used prominant individuals to start occult groups to take people out. Charisma is what lured Wu tang clan to join the elite occult group or groups, and when one person finds out the truth and inner workings it could become a detriment to the whole group. Odb was killed because he was influential. And he didn't die from an overdose. The governments elite sacrificed him.
hollywood is so messed up
so when a rapper or a singer tries to tell people about the inner workings that goes on inside the industry, they always get killed?
people like dave chappelle, the comedian, who RAN TO AFRICA to escape the entire media circus gets away scott free (thank god) but had to give up his career because the industry wanted him to do some sick s**t
and then good rappers die?
this is bullshit
He just performed live in my city. Gave up his career? I'm confused.
He still performs independently but not with huge sponsors on a large scale. Dave was ""hot". Doing movies and all, after he didn't take the money he was blackballed, anything he's done since, has been on his own.
Kanye West was talking about the same stuff in his "New Slaves" lyrics.
But I don't understand him at all, too much contradiction in his actions.
"They throwing hate at me
Want me to stay at ease
F**k you and your corporation
Y'all ni**as can't control me
I know that we the new slaves
I know that we the new slaves
I'm about to wild the f**k out"
"Y'all ni**as can't f**k with Ye
I'll move my family out the country
So you can't see where I stay
So go and grab the reporters
So I can smash their recorders
See they'll confuse us
with some bullsh*t like the New World Order
Meanwhile the DEA
Teamed up with the CCA
They tryna lock ni**as up
They tryna make new slaves
See that's that private owned prison
Get your piece today"
Remember a lot of music is written for the public,
not just for reflecting the artists' inner or outer life.
Can you picture a few thousand human beings chanting '' ..we the new slaves..'' ?
I really don't know if they would be proud to chant that but many people,
mostly young adults don't care what this is about, they just want money
and a "good" life (even if it means to be blind and a slave).
If you search for tattoos on tumblr you'll see sooo many all seeing eyes, pyrimds, horus eyes, etc.
I think he was stating a true fact about him and us too…sadly.
Also, he was saying that he knows stuff and wants the public to know it too, it's a must to check the whole lyric.
Considering everything i know about him, i'd rather not. He's is on my little list of No more too.
West is one of the biggest puppets out their he just doesn't know it. Singing about the corporations don't control him but all along pushing their agenda and turning his fans into slaves. He is the epitomy of whats wrong with the music industry today.
Not saying that some rappers are not engaged in personal battles, however, I do believe that when rappers begin to share what is really going on in the industry, they all of a sudden start getting police charges and end up dead and blame it on drug overdose…nothing too different like the Amy Winehouse, Marilyn Monroe, Dorothy Dandrige. Governments would focus on rappers b/c they are EXTREMELY influential…all stars are. That is why the industry wants to make sure that artists are pushing their agenda and not truth b/c they impact the general population in a great way. Due to the fact rappers often represent a thug/criminal image, they will often seek to hurt their careers with things such as drug charges, and gang rivalry bc it fits the stereotype. But do believe, it is not just their lifestyle, it is the industry's way of keeping them in check. If they do not get in line, they will then kill them…
ummmm.. no?
According to wikipedia, Dave Chappelle lives with his family in Yellow Springs, Ohio, and continues to perform stand-up, recently touring the U.S. as part of the 2013 Oddball Comedy & Curiosity Festival.
Comedy is Dave's career…he'll always do his job. But he'll never be in the spotlight again. No more mainstream tv or movie roles.
Dave went to Africa in the middle of the height of his carrer, in the mid 00's
He walked away from a 55million dollar deal and now is independent. He walked away from his show and alot of power which he built up throughout his career. He did shows and movies not just stand up… You are taking the guys point way out of context
What happened indeed ..
Thanks VC
This isn't even unexpectable anymore, the ones that see the truth are always defamed. May Allah (swt) help us all
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh, I find it very funny that they tried to make it seem like ODB (or anyone else in the Wu-Tang Clan for that matter) was a crackhead or a street thug; they were probably some of the most knowledgeable and talented rappers that were ever afforded a single minute in the limelight. They don't even bother to make it seem convincing to anyone with half a brain.
He was an addict who succumbed to his addictions. Simple. I can agree with some of these conspiracies but others are just pushing it.
Government killed that brotha…rip dirty