Thrill Da Playa on the Dark Side of the Music Industry (video)

Jul 13th, 2011 | Category: Latest News | 192 comments


Here’s an interesting interview with Thrill Da Playa regarding the music industry, its occult aspects and the way it changes artists.





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  1. steph says:

    wow scary stuff

    • its me again says:

      The Truth is always scary…..I respect him for saying what he said. His personal life has nothing to do with any of us thats his own battle. DMX did the same thing and he's in jail. And the info i just watched suggests that they will claim Dmx had an "accidental" death just like all the others who spoke out. I dont know if this rapper thrill da playa will be sought after because they can claim he faded from the lime light and his info is incredible.

      • TheRealReason says:

        Did everyone hear about Waka Flocka retired after a short career calling a lot of people in the industry fake and said how he couldn't take it anymore.

        http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v

      • marzb says:

        I feel ya on the dmx situation but i feel since he spoke out and has pulled a randy quaid hell be left alone. as for the wacka flokka interview! hats off to the kid thats how a young blk male explains without explaining they walked in to a back office confference room and saw satan out of human form signing checks.

    • Im only 14 years old but one thing i have to say is that i am so happy that im aware of this shi*!

      • Ron says:

        I have way more respect for Waka after hearing that interview than I ever would have. His morals have been crossed and unlike many of the rest, he's one to say I won't be a part of this even if it does take away his money and fame.

  2. AD says:

    over 700 women………………..cmon son

    • Hip Hop is Dead! says:

      That comes out to an x number of std's and an x number of baby mamas? I don't mean to be "judgmental" but these kids have to know his actions are retarded and will kill you. You ought to hang your head in shame at that number. What a disgrace as a person and for an industry that promotes such behavior. I'm sorry that I'm not taking this nonchalantly.

      • Sarah Connor says:

        Seem to me like he's had his own personal 'coming to Jesus' about it. At the end of the day, it is between them.

        Speaking out about the snares of the industry, trying to warn others and using himself as an example of what a slippery slope it is. Noone is immune. I say God Bless Him!

        If one listens to the wrong kind of music, he will become the wrong kind of person ~ Aristotle

      • Hip Hop is Dead! says:

        Too bad he didn't set the Guinness World Records.

        "The woman to set the world record for most sexual partners in one day shagged a whopping 620 men in 24 hours."

        http://www.askmen.com/dating/love_tip_300/391b_lo

      • KILLEGO says:

        Thats good for Thrill da plya and all but ,Jack Van Impe was going to expose false prophets, now his show has been taken off of the air, interesting stuff to look into check it out.

    • Desi says:

      700+ thanks to rohypnol -colourless, tasteless, unnoticeable . He must have a big stash in his residence.

    • readyfreddy says:

      In the moral-less society we live in today, 700 f*cks isn't out of the realm of reality for **anyone** who is not in a monogamous relationship and is sexually active for even just a few years. And, believe me, it isn't difficult to find willing participants either.

      Sounds like some of you guys haven't been out in the real world for a long time.

      Not that I'm recommending it. ;)

      • Desi says:

        I don't think any of us is actually concerned about his personal life. We've been there, we've done that, we've learned something from the past. And there are still more things to learn. We can have a laugh without being bitter.

    • reallyforreal says:

      LMAO! that cracked me up

  3. better job says:

    i have just finished watching this video on you tube.

    good vc!

  4. Jin says:

    Is their fire alarm out of batteries in the background? That beeping. xD

    • Silentobserver says:

      Right! I thought it was in MY house lol.

    • Ryan says:

      I have my pc going through my surround system, so the beeps had me stopping the video every couple of minutes and searching my house for a dying smoke alarm. Then I noticed when I replayed the video that the beeps happened in the same spot in the video when I originally heard it and realized I'm an idiot! Though, that would make an awesome Youtube prank huh?

  5. Jroq316 says:

    Forerunner777 is absolutely fantastic

  6. DEVILSDEEDS says:

    Although his moral charcter is very questionable..he still makes a valid point about the Music Industry in general! A man who can empty his dirty laundry out like that, deserves to be heard.

    • Jus Me says:

      I respect him for coming out but they got a close up of the tear tattoos on his face. What does that mean? I thought it meant, unless I'm wrong, that you got "a count" under your belt. Ya know. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

  7. Waldo says:

    lol @ "Piles"

    • truthlives says:

      hahaha I was thinking I got his name wrong when I watched this video. I used to listen to "piles" before I was saved haha

      • kels says:

        "piles" is top three worst ive ever heard. not sure who else is in the category. ICKK! makes my skin crawl. doesnt get worse than that…

  8. dre says:

    If u dnt think this is real by now..its either u real ignorant or just plain scared of the truth..

  9. Silksoul says:

    Alot of people want to stay in their comfort zone. Even those that are "Christians". If the true word of GOD was being taught in these churches, i guarantee most would be empty.

    • Hip Hop is Dead! says:

      That's right. And to Sarah Connor – I'm just really tired of these ‘coming to Jesus’s. I want hear about the "been with Jesus's" stories. It is not just between God and you. It's between the children you haven't raised, neglected and the women you screwed over.

      • Sarah Connor says:

        If he has children out there he is not taking care of, that is very unfortunate and irresponsible. Fathers are SO important!!! Do you know if he does? I'm sure he has screwed over women. I also know women screw over men. People hurt people, all the time. I understand your frustrations, but in this interview specifically, he is speaking out about the satanic ties of the music industry, and how he thought he could go into that environment and not change, but was proven wrong. He is admitting he was wrong. I don't know him, or the personal agony he has or hasn't experienced, but I'm not going to tell him he is a disgrace and should hang his head in shame based off this interview.

    • Barber says:

      Can you tell me more or where I can find what you are talking about? I read the Bible (daily) and attend church weekly, and I would like to know what part would keep people out of church.

      • Tristan Harrell says:

        The parts that people don't like. For example; no sorceries (drugs), no sex before marriage, no women wearing men's clothes/men wearing women's clothes, no homosexuality, no living as a lukewarm follower, not exposing yourself to things that are damaging to your spirit (certain kinds of music, movies)— all of these things are RIGHT- the word of God is right. But these are the things that worldly people don't like to live without.

      • Perla says:

        2 Timothy 4:3

        For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear.

      • Barber says:

        ok, I thought if anyone is going to church on a regular basis they would already be avoiding drugs, homosexuality, certain music, ect…

        I hear alot about people who go to church who arent really christians… It is difficult to wrap my mind around, even though I totally believe it is probable, especially since the Bible mentions it..

      • Truth Teller says:

        @ Tristan Harrel & Perla –

        The Bible also says not to celebrate Christmas, Easter or any other pagan holiday (Holy Days of worship etc. are outlined in scripture, but no one acknowledges them but Jews); it says not to go to church, that it’s better to worship elsewhere (gee I wonder why?); it says never to change scripture in any way (this means all the deceptive and misleading translations and councils like the one at Nicea that altered everything, forming modern Bibles); It says that there is no intermediary on our behalf other than Yahshua ha Moshiach, yet Catholicism ( the foundation for all “Christianity”) teaches that the Pope is the Vicarius Filii Dei – Vicar of the Son of God. It never fails to amaze me how many “Christians” fail to understand what their religion actually teaches. It’s easy to sit atop a high horse looking down at the world and thinking you know everything…. It’s going to be sad, sad day when you fall and have to catch yourself before your ass hits the ground. I just hope it’s not too late…. Until then people need to stop twisting scripture to suit their own agenda.

  10. i love it when these conscious people speak the real deal HOLY-FIELD

  11. Silksoul says:

    I thought that was Forerunner, you should check out his youtube channel, he has some incredible stuff on there about illuminati and meeting with ex members etc..

  12. Amanda says:

    Regardless of what he did in the past, I admire this man's courage and honesty. It's good to hear the truth about the dark side of the industry from someone who has experienced it first hand.

  13. ... says:

    while i appriciate this interview but this guy isnt really revealing much the interviewer is revealing most of what we already knew …um, the name of his group was the "69 boys" a sexual reference, tootsie roll was booty shaking music, causing women to dance in a provacative manner..theres nothing clean about that.how can he have thought that the God of his understanding would condone that? ,im sorry it's hypocrisy.

    • Silentobserver says:

      I agree with you and besides that I am always leery about these so-called "revelation" interviews when the revealer is concealing his eyes behind dark sunglasses. That to me is indicative of deception. How come someone with so many awards and industry accolades is all of a sudden giving "exposure" to the dark side of a system that has honored him so profusely? I always look at what is not being said instead of what is. Now if he had stated that he came back to the knowledge of Christ, repented and is OUT of the industry then I could maybe take him seriously…but this…more of the status quo. He is really not revealing anything that many of us didn't already know. Meh!

      • Perla says:

        i got the same feeling about him too. he wasn't revealing much relevant information and i think he does know about the freemasons because you have to know about them to be that successful in the industry. they are the ones who gave him his power in the industry but i think he's just trying to conceal things so he doesn't get in trouble by anyone. I don't really think he's really come to god because if he really was living for christ he would have completely left the music industry and burned bridges with people who do worship satan for fame. how can he be in a jay-z song and claim to be a christian? doesn't make sense to me.

      • AD says:

        so why would he risk his life to talk about the secrets of the industry……. cmon son no matter if he had sunglasses or not understand the mssg…. sunglassses are worn everywhere cmon son think b4 you type

      • Silentobserver says:

        AD, risk his life? Huh? What did he really say or reveal? He spoke in circles, making general statements that so many before him have made. He hasn't denounced the industry, but without words paid homage to it (awards on the wall in the background). This whole interview was sounding brass and tinkling cymbals. Come ON son…wake up!

      • Sarah Connor says:

        Hey Silentobserver – I think you have made some good points, and I have agreed with you on some of it, but this is just starting to feel like a good old witchhunt. Will you please stop now? Have you spent any time, any, looking at or listening to his new album? What's next had good points on knowing them by their fruits, maybe we should look at his now? If my boys were the right age I would be so happy for them to listen to this in lieu of some of the crap that is out there today:

        http://4thrilldaplaya.bandcamp.com/album/user-fri

        KT Perry went from gospel to ET. Thrill went from thug rap to Christian rap. Is he perfect, no! Do you know anyone that is? I don't. Lucky for us all that God is the knower of all hearts! And that we are not subject to each others judgements and opinions.

        He did not risk his life with this interview, I'm' guessing he would like to live. He did however say he risks having labels/producers not work with him anymore. And if he wants to continue to make music, that IS a risk. Christians CAN be in the industry, and are. Please, look at what he is doing now, and remember that if he truly repented, and sought forgiveness for his former ways, it is there for him regardless of what you, I or anyone else thinks about him.

        Plaques on a wall are a representation of his achievements, not necessarily him paying homage to 'the industry'. If one has a college degree and displays it on the wall, are they paying homage to the educational system which some could argue is also corrupt?

        Peace~

    • Silentobserver says:

      Witch hunt? Wow…really? If you've read my posts before then you would know or at least think better. I have seen and read all that I needed to. Thanks.

      • Silentobserver says:

        …I forgot to add that my last response was IN response to someone else, but at YOUR request, yes, I will "stop it". Because the bible says, "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. (Rom. 12:18)* So have a blessed day.

      • Sarah Connor says:

        Fantastic! Maybe check out Thrill's new album? Some of it is quite uplifting!

        You have a very blessed day as well Silentobserver~

    • .... says:

      no offense just using my discernment here………so after he's made all the blood money and has been quite successful, NOW he decides ok i can make christian rap, all the while he keeps giving shout outs to t-pain? in my opinion christian rap is an oxymoron, u wouldnt play system of down to put a baby to sleep would you? …ever notice how a harp sound automatically makes u think of heaven…not the boom bap of a kick and a snare…that sound makes u want to "nod ur head"( agreeing with whom?) or move your pelvis ….the nature of rap is very boastful,"look at me,im getting all this paper"materialistic,if you notice how he mentions how noone was more sucessful then him expect maybe tpain? sitting in front of all the plaques…if i was renouncing that life i would put all that away because thats not humble at all, ——…. i mean his stage name is " thrill" "the player" doesnt sound very christian like to me……..the point about the witch hunt, ive made that reference as well before but in genereal about these types of sites where the puppets and the end product is pointed out but not so much the names of the puppetmasters …like the photographers who take the photo shoot,the creaive directors,presidents of the music labels, producers,the science behind sound,the esoteric musical scale,..no offense in my opinion i believe if thrill the player wanted to uplift people he would give up trying to get them to buy music…and just go around speaking to people for free….

  14. resurrected says:

    This is the best definition that I heard about why God has not destroyed Satan and why he lets the world exist in this state when he has the power to change it. He wants us to see what a world would be like under Satan dominion. Just like how a lot of people come on here calling us crazy because they choose not to open there eyes to truth. See human being need to learn by experience just as Adam and Eve also disobeyed God word over Satan. If they would have listened to God back then the devil would probably be at a state of loneliness and repentance by now but we have added the fuel to his fire which has and will also back fire on us. God also wanted to show the rest of the angels why fighting the good fight of faith is important and if he would have destroyed Satan then the other angel would have questioned a loving God actions and he wants his creations to love him by choice and not my force. Please forgive me God if any of this explanation is inaccurate.

    • BILLY says:

      Interesting thought but God can certainly obliterate Satan anytime he pleases but our loving God is still a God of Mystery. Lucifer is a created being by God and has free will and he chose to become Satan which is simply "Adversary". I almost see it as an object lesson as men on earth would love to become God's themselves or many even profess to be Gods (NOE). The fact of the matter is that Lucifer a Fallen Archangel who is infinitely stronger than us humans is still infinitely weaker than God himself. Satan was already defeated on the Cross and through the ressurection of Jesus Christ God the son.

      God revealed himself in Jesus and thats how we know this is a loving God and not a Destroyer but a creator. Although he has the power do whatever he wills, we know he's looking out for our well being in the end. It benefits us to trust in him. God needs nothing but we need him. If that makes any sense.

      • Andreas says:

        @ resurrected & BILLY

        Who is God that both of you speak of?

      • resurrected says:

        I speak of the all might father and creater of myself and Jesus Christ.

      • IgnoranceIsBliss says:

        I agree with your comment, I just felt the need to correct you on one thing. Lucifer was not an archangel, he was a cherubim…the angel that covers. An archangel is way more lower ranking than a cherubim.

      • Smart guy says:

        Ignorance TRUELY is bliss because in the bible there is only ONE arch angel and that is MICHEAL. Micheal means like God. Micheal was Jesus before he became flesh on this earth. Arch angel means ruler of the angels.. an arch angel isn't an angel.

      • Andreas says:

        I accept that everyone's entitled to his own perception of God.

        Although, based on your formulation, you deem the God of the Old Testament and the Creator of Jesus Christ as the same, while in fact the opposite seems more accurate. Why would Adam & Eve be forbidden to eat from the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil'? Why would God deny them that knowledge? Would the Earth not be a better place if we all knew? The serpent, that wasn't a serpent at the time he told Eve to eat from the forbidden fruit (in Gen. 3, 14 God clearly turns it into a serpent as punishment), may have been incorporated by Sophia (Wisdom), not Lucifer, who wanted to aid Adam & Eve in opening their eyes and see like God sees.

        And why does God say that "man had become like us" (Gen. 3, 22)? In ancient Hebrew it said "Elohim", which in the context was plural. Who are "they"? Perhaps they are the archons (rulers). Maybe this God is Yaldabaoth, the Primary Archon or Demiurge, and not the One. Maybe "they" refers to the archons, his loyal servants.

        Our archon supposedly is Yahweh, who's main prophet was Mozes, not Jesus Christ. In fact, Jesus was his nemesis, the supreme enemy of Yahweh, a messenger from the transcendent God who bypassed the material prison of Yaldabaoth.

        This all makes more sense to me on a personal level, yet I repeat that everyone's entitled to their own conception of God.

      • Billy says:

        He was an Angel was my point and held a high position but your miss the point. Oh and as soon as people attack the Divinity of Jesus Christ as not God or a lesser God then you are far from the truth. All the MAN MADE religions Islam, SDA, Mormons, Jehovas witness, Iglesia na Cristo and etc have the same thing in common they attack the Divinity of Christ or make him lesser than he proclaimed himself.

        God the father, the son and the holy spirit is the same God as the one in the Old Testament.

        In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

        John 1:1

        Clue to all the readers: If you follow a religion because you shouldn't follow a religion anways. See how they view Jesus Christ and if they make him lesser than he claimed then they are the ignorant ones.

      • Andreas says:

        @ BILLY

        I really didn't attack the divinity of Jesus Christ. In fact, I gave him more divinity than you did (no offense). If you parallel your God to the one from the Old Testament, then you acknowledge a God that is capable of condemnation and punishment. Yet Jesus' message contained only Love & Forgiveness. That's a distinct contradiction. I (choose to) connect Jesus Christ to our True God, which isn't the God from the Tanakh, nor is it the G.O.A.T.U. or Yaldabaoth, but the transcendent One, the perfect One, the One who doesn't punish, only loves.

        He is the Good God, the God of the Old Testament is the Just God, the one who knows both good and evil, but accepts both as necessary opposites. That's why the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was off-limits, because it would grant the "violator" gnosis (which is called secret knowledge, but basically means knowledge of good and evil).

        The original Christian Trinity was the Father, the Mother and the Son (cf. Valentinius).

        (John 1:1): The Word (Logos) was indeed of the One, but to me there seems to be a difference between chapter 1 of the Genesis, where God creates man, and chapter 2, where Yahweh 'recreates' man. I find that odd, but not if you regard God and Yahweh as two distinct entities.

      • Casey says:

        In the first chapter is a summary of the world god created second chapter is about how he created man and women

      • Billy says:

        @Andreas

        The mother??? what are you talking about. The Father, the Son and the Holy spirit are the same. They are ONE god in three different persons. Yes God does punish evil and that will be present when Jesus returns to deliver JUSTICE. Why does god punish because he cannot allow EVIL to win.

        I'm not sure what kind of hippy God you are talking about but A loving God does punish Evil. Of course he doesn't want anyone to go to Hell but Hell is there because EVIL cannot and will not win in the end.

        It's quite simple Jehova in the Old testament is the same as Jesus Christ in the New Testament. I and my Father are one.

        I've heard all the arguments attacking the trinity and no it was not formed in the council or any council in history.

        I admit there is still so much I'm learning through my Bible KJV (go ahead attack it too) but I know there is still alot of Mystery to God.

        What I do know is sufficient for me and has only made my faith and love for Jesus Christ my savior stronger every day.

        Peace to you and I would implore you to reread the Gospels for yourself.

      • Billy says:

        @Andreas

        Jesus also spoke more about Hell than Heaven in the Gospels. People keep saying he only spoke of forgiveness and loving your enemies which is of course critical and makes him more of a loving God but he did speak of repentence. Ah, Repentence. To Change your direction away from sin and towards Christ.

        Jesus said that people "will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" and into "the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth," (Matthew 8:12 and Matthew 13:42). In the verses Mark 9:42-48, Jesus said that if a hand, foot or an eye caused you to sin, it would be better to lose it and enter heaven maimed than to be tossed into hell because of the sin it causes. Because, Jesus said, in hell the worm doesn't die and the fire is never quenched. The fire represents external torment and the worm describes internal torment, neither of which ever end. There are many other verses which describe hell as a terrible, dark place of eternal, fearful punishment.

        Does that mean he can't represent love? I think a part love is caring for the well being of someone and telling them the truth. Was Jesus Lying or just telling a story.

        Hell simply means being seperated from God. God gave us free will and will not force us to be with him. He could have made robots if he wanted but a loving god gave us choice regardless of what we chose he still wants us to chose him out of love. He showed that through Christ's death and ressurection.

      • Andreas says:

        The first man known to us who described the Christian Trinity as ‘the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit’ was Tertullian in the 3rd century. There existed a great rivalry between Orthodox Christianity and Gnosticism at that time, and Tertullian was an avid opponent of the early gnostics, of which Valentinus described the Trinity as ‘the Father, the Mother and the Son’ years before him (2nd century). The Trinity is indeed of the same One, they are God’s reflections through emanation. Though same in essence, they’re not the same entity.

        The first Council of Nicaea did establish the Nicene Creed which implicated a consensus surrounding the Trinity doctrine. Tertullian’s Trinity was adopted. It was a victory of the Orthodox Church over Gnosticism., which was henceforth regarded as heresy.

        If our God is the Good God, the Perfect One, then he would not punish. Punishment in any fashion whatsoever is an act of evil, therefore God would no longer be perfect in His goodness. If our God is perfect and almighty, then he would possess the powers to eradicate Evil. Evil still exists, so He chooses for Evil to exist, which makes him the Just God (so that He may judge), not the Good God (He who loves and forgives). You may call it a hippy God, but that discredits many great thinkers such as Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato, Zarathustra and more.

        Jehova and Jesus are not the same. Jehova is the deity of the Israelites, the people chosen by YHWH himself (cf. Noach, Sem, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, etc.). The Israelites despise Jesus. He is their arch enemy. In the Talmud you find clear accusations of Jesus being an evil man, his mother Mary a whore. It also tells the story of Onkelos, he who summoned the spirit of Jesus and anyone who sought to harm Israel, and condemned them to punishment in the afterlife where they’d “boil in hot excrement for eternity” (Gittin 57a). If you don’t believe it, watch this video that is shown to kids on Israeli television:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RY83mAr5uA&fe

        The Christian gospels arent’t exclusively those of the Biblical canon. There are others that have been lost, burnt, destroyed throughout history of which some have been rediscovered in Egypt, such as the Gospel of Truth, the Gospel of Mary, the Gospel of Thomas, and so forth. Have you read those?

        I agree with your statement that ‘Hell means being separated from God’. The only question is which God we are referring to.

      • Andreas says:

        @ Casey

        I'm not saying this may not be true, but I don't believe it. The Genesis is an assembly of written texts, and it may well be so that certain texts that tell different tales (or different interpretations) are overlapped. It would explain the numerous illogicalities and contradictions in the Old Testament.

      • Silentobserver says:

        Billy you are blessed brother, keep on keeping the faith!

      • readyfreddy says:

        @Billy

        "The fact of the matter is that Lucifer a Fallen Archangel who is infinitely stronger than us humans …"

        That is just not true.

        Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

      • Smart guy says:

        @Billy, Everything you said is correct BUT!! I got one problem with you. You went far to say that the Seventh Day Adventists don't see Jesus as God and attack the trinity which is an error. A person must ACCEPT the trinity of God the father, The son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit before being baptized as a seventh day adventist. Don't spread around false things my friend….. it doesn't make you seem credible or reliable.

    • Jesusmysavior says:

      Well said resurrected. Please keep up the good work

    • Skegeeace says:

      As far as I know there isn’t a plan of redemption for the angels laid out in the Bible. I can’t say yes or no based on what I’ve read, but it’s not looking like repentance and forgiveness is in the cards for Satan and his angels. I mean, he LIVED with GOD- in His very presence, every minute of every hour. If being with GOD wasn’t enough to keep him satisfied, what in the world could bring him back?

      • resurrected says:

        No I don't think that Satan can and will be saved at all at this point. I found a list of celestial angels on the net and it was interesting to find out that the archangel was not the highest form of angels in heaven and that in the bible when it states that man should not blame other men because it is the principalities of the air that we must worry about there is also a set of angels called the principalities. And Satan was not the only one who was kicked and so there is probably any different kinds of angels that for kicked out of heaven then just the archangel because in the bible it said that 1/3 of the angel got kicked out. I love information it is so enlighten and eye opening when you reach out to it. In the bible it state that wisdom is calling out in the street but not one will listen to her because many people reject the concept of wisdom.

      • IgnoranceIsBliss says:

        I think satan is a different story because he was the one who deceived himself. The other fallen angels were deceived by him, but satan is the only being who deceived himself because of his beauty & wisdom. This brings us to 1 Corinthians 6:3 Do you not know that we will judge angels, not to mention things in this life? I believe this scripture is in reference to the 12 tribes of Israel, or the 144,000 spoken of in Revelation, so these are people who will judge the angels.

        @ resurrected…you are right. This is the angelic hierarchy I found in the order of the rankings of angels:

        1. Seraphim

        2. Cherubim

        3. Thrones or Ophanim

        4. Dominions

        5. Virtues

        6. Powers or Authorities

        7. Principalities or Rulers

        8. Archangels

        9. Angels

      • resurrected says:

        IgnoranceIsBliss

        Thanks for correcting me I learned something new about Satan today information is so infamous.

    • Child of CHRIST says:

      Awesome piece of your mind, couldn't agree more. Shalomxxx

    • BEL says:

      true true true!
      I was thinking about that the other day! WE have the power to destroy the devil! if we all followed God and ignored the devil he would have NO power over us at all! he feed on our fears, sufferings, believes and specially the power we give him….

      I also thought after all in a judgement for example the devil would not be found guilty of many counts simply because he NEVER forces anyone to do anything! EACH one of us decides whether to do things or not!… the devil never put a gun to my head to do things…I am the one who decides to sin or not.
      He does facilitates things, he puts sin in our faces he makes it look desirable…he pushes us to edge and tempts us but WE and only WE have the final word!….

      we blame GOD of so many things that we have done our selves! we blame God of things he has no fault….people have unprotected sex and blame God for getting an STD for example…we expect God to protect us through sin…and even when many times he does….he cannot deliver us from the things we have chosen under our FREE WILL!

  15. Jianei says:

    Hmmm…. he seems that he is being truthful, but as he said… DECEPTION — it is based on the truth and is twisted and turned into a lie. "It's has to be some right, to hide the wrong" These are some notes I have made while watching the video:

    ~ Thrill Da Playa looked a bit uncomfortable when the interviewer (Forerunner777), first mentioned the secret societies, and the Industry's satanic relations with music.

    ~Admits that the Industry has a deep spiritual connection with the soul.

    ~ Feels that the Industry changed him for the worst

    ~ Knows that no matter how much you try to change/fight it, you are going to change.

    ~ He also seemed scared to talk about it.

    As I said, he seems sincere but, we can't know for sure until something happens– death in his family (blood sacrifice), a rise in fame, or his whole image/message change.

    • IgnoranceIsBliss says:

      I noticed the same things you did. I also noticed how he put Lucifer in charge of the music industry by saying that Lucifer was head of music in heaven. He chose his words very very carefully, but those of us who are awake can see straight through this.

  16. Terri w/an i says:

    Who wears shades to an interview purposed to impart truth to the audience? I don't know; I'm a little skeptical and uneasy about this one…

    • Jianei says:

      @Terri In my opinion–it’s really hard to tell if he is lying or not. His eyes are hidden by his glasses as you said. So he could be lying through his teeth but you would never know! Also… does anyone know what the Tattoo on his chest say/mean?

      • Terri w/an i says:

        I do not dispute whether or not he is lying. He is not. What I'm skeptical about is his sincerity. With the shades on, it's difficult to determine his 'honesty' or genuine-ness. Besides, was he really saying anything?

      • kayfromthe ghetto says:

        The teardrops from his eyes man that he has done some killings, at least two he has two drops and he stated the there is truth in deception, but a half truth is a lie so therefore when he is telling half truths he is being deceptive and lying….he stumbled and talked in circles on a few questions and bragged a little too much to not be in that rapper mentality. He is recognized as team satan.

      • IgnoranceIsBliss says:

        @ kayfromtheghetto…lol @ team satan, yeah, seems like he's still involved to me as well. & the teardrops could symbolize that he has killed, but let's not forget it can also symbolize the close loved ones he has lost instead.

  17. Yup says:

    I'm a bit skeptical about Forerunner but, I was very pleased with this video. If it's one thing I've learned on my journey is that you have to learn how to pick sense out of nonsense.

  18. Jianei says:

    I wasn't trying to judge him… I was just stating the obvious, and my take on this. I'm not going to explain myself, but to believe everything I hear, is to believe that pigs can fly… And don't you dare throw a scripture at me– the whole bible is most likely corrupted as far as you know. How dare you use it to your convenience, pfft– and most likely don't abide by it yourself.

    • IgnoranceIsBliss says:

      I think to continue to learn we have to accept and welcome correction. Now, that person threw the Bible at you as you say, & you immediately hit them with the whole thing could be corrupt. Now this is just my opinion here, but if it were so corrupt, I don't think it would have bothered you the way it did. Truth has a way of hitting the wrong spots or pushing the right buttons, which is what it did to you. I think people should actually read the Bible before judging it.

      Someone else said something on here, I can't remember the name, but they said that the Bible holds contradictions. I tend to disagree with that. We must remember that we only use between 10 – 13% of our brains. Who are we to decide what is holy & what is not? They also said that the Bible was written by men. True, but the Bible was written by men who were close to, & seeking God. Just like people can be demonically possessed, well, the Holy Spirit can possess you as well. For instance, in Revelation, John saw visions centuries ago that are still coming true to this day. This man was inspired by God, he was able to communicate with Him. Some people can communicate with God, it's just that simple. Just because he doesn't communicate with you, you want to find it hard to believe that others aren't capable of this…& you people, my friends, would be wrong.

      For a while I had a problem with slavery being in the Bible. Slavery basically means you are a servant to someone else, right. Well, think about this. There are kings that were created, & there were people created to serve those kings all for God's purpose, whether those kings chose to serve God or not. The fact still remains that they were created for that purpose to serve God & to judge men on earth in righteousness. Just people, please remember, who are you to judge the Bible? You don't even use half the percentage of your brain lol…Wow. Not to mention, we are all corrupted with evil, being that we are in the flesh.

      • IgnoranceIsBliss says:

        Also, men write the history books with no spiritual discernment whatsover, yet you choose to believe them when clearly most of the information inside are nothing but lies…i.e. Christopher Columbus discovering America. What about all those dark skinned people running around with feathers who were here at first??? lol A man names a certain disease cancer, & you see that disease as cancer with no doubts afterward. Have you ever even stopped to think…I wonder if that's that disease's true name. But no, no one stops to think because a MAN named it cancer, & you believe him. Or what about that disease where the babies are born with actual scales all over them & they resemble a reptilian? This disease is called harlequin ichthyosis, but you have to remember, a man named it this & tells you that genes mutate & that's why the person resembles a reptilian…hmmm, I wonder is that so. I'm not scientist, but I'm still inclined to wonder if that's the true cause of something like this. My point, critical thinking. Things that you should think critically about, you don't. & things you shouldn't think critically about, you do lol. But you want to go and question the Bible when you clearly don't even understand the true power of it…because if you did, then you wouldn't question it. It's spiritual, let it go!!! & this is to people in general, not to the person I replied to.

      • resurrected says:

        As I once heard it be all that you can be on earth because once you get to heaven they will not be taken any positions for Jesus Jr. we will be there to serve our all and mighty creator in a place of security and love. What you do on earth proclaims your position in heaven and I honestly believe that many people on earth now has never meet face to face with there destiny many of us chase our own selfish images of dreams just to find out that it does not make you feel fulfilled still. You soul is the most important part of you body and existence and many of us are only feeding out bodies/ flesh. In the bible it says that all that man will ever deal with is the lust of the flesh (always letting you body lead you), the lust of the eyes (everything that one see they want) and the pride of life (this one was Satan sin thinking that you can always and only function with self). Now matter how a temptation may look it will only be in there three categories

      • Richard says:

        I thought it might be useful to post a few comments about the Bible's position on slavery. You said that you had previously had a problem with it's inclusion in the scriptures so you might already be familiar with some of the following information, as it might have helped you to resolve this apparent contradiction in your mind. But given the widespread misconceptions about this sensitive issue, I felt others could find it very enlightening as well.

        Love of neighbour is one of the fundamental teachings of the Bible. Love, however, is diametrically opposed to the concept of oppressive slavery. Hence, some are confused or angered by the mention of slavery in the Bible. If God allowed his people to own slaves in ancient times and in the days of the apostles, does this mean that the Bible condones oppressive slavery?

        By the time the Bible began to be composed, certain social structures and economic systems that conflicted with godly principles had become established. While some were explicitly condemned in the Mosaic Law, God chose to tolerate others, such as slavery, but were heavily regulated.

        Regarding the social structure of the ancient nation of Israel, The International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia states: "It was meant to function as a brotherhood in which, ideally, there were no poor, there was no exploitation of widows, waifs, or orphans." So, more than simply allowing an already established social and economic structure, God's Law regulated slavery so that, if practiced, slaves would be treated in a humane and loving way.

        Consider the following guidelines included in the Mosaic Law: Kidnapping someone and then selling them merited the death penalty.(Exodus 21:16) However, if despite all the provisions made to prevent poverty, an Israelite found himself mired in debt, perhaps due to poor management or other adverse circumstances, he could sell himself as a slave. In some cases he might even be able to earn a surplus by which he could redeem himself.(Leviticus 25:47-52)

        This was not the oppressive kind of slavery that has been common in many places through the ages. Leviticus 25:39, 40 warns: "In case your brother grows poor alongside you and he has to sell himself to you, you must not use him as a worker in slavish service. He should prove to be with you like a hired labourer, like a settler." So this was a benign, loving arrangement, more analogous to a state welfare provision, to care for the poorest.

        Someone found guilty of theft who was unable to make full restitution according to the Law could be sold as a slave and in this way pay off their debts.(Exodus 22:3) When they had worked off the debt, they could go free.

        Cruel and abusive slavery was not tolerated. While masters were allowed to discipline their slaves, excesses were outlawed. A slave killed by his master was to be avenged.(Exodus 21:20) If the slave was maimed, losing a tooth or an eye, he was set free.(Exodus 21:26, 27)

        The maximum time that any Israelite would have to serve as a slave was six years.(Exodus 21:2) They were set free in the seventh year of their service. The Law stipulated that every 50 years, the Jubilee, all Israelite slaves were to be released nationwide, regardless of how long they had been a slave.(Leviticus 25:40, 41)

        When released, the master was required to be generous toward him and assist him in getting a good start as a freedman, he was not to send him out "empty handed".(Deuteronomy 15:13, 14)

        An Israelite who sold himself to an alien resident, to a member of an alien resident's family, or to a settler could be repurchased at any time, either by himself or by one having the right of repurchase. The redemption price was based on the number of years remaining until the Jubilee or until the seventh year of servitude.(Leviticus 25:47-52; Deuteronomy 15:12)

        Certain privileges were granted under the terms of the Law. As all male slaves were circumcised, they could eat the Passover, and slaves of the priest could eat holy things.(Exodus 12:43, 44; Leviticus 22:10, 11) Slaves were exempted from working on the Sabbath.(Exodus 20:10; Deut. 5:14) During the Sabbath year they were entitled to eat of the growth from spilled kernels and from the unpruned vine.(Leviticus 25:5, 6) They were to share in the rejoicing associated with the sacrificing at the sanctuary and the celebration of the festivals.(Deut.12:12; 16:11, 14)

        So rather than being a cruel and degrading exploitation of people, which is the image usually conjured up by the word, it was an arrangement designed to help those who had fallen on hard times. They could continue to work and provide for themselves and their families without resorting to begging and thus preserve their dignity whilst contributing to the overall productivity of the nation as a whole.

        Later, in the days of Jesus and the apostles, sadly slavery was entrenched in the Roman Empire. As Christianity spread, it was inevitable that slaves and slave owners would come in contact with the good news and convert. Neither Jesus nor his apostles preached a gospel of social liberation, as if trying to reform the existing system. Instead, both slaves and owners were exhorted to love one another as spiritual brothers.(Colossians 4:1; 1 Timothy 6:2)

        As in the case with every Bible related question, the issue of slavery must be considered in context. A careful examination of the scriptures reveals that God deplores the mistreatment of fellow humans. The kind of slavery practiced by God's people was not the inhumane and abusive slavery that most envision.

  19. spamioh says:

    How about that head gear (tattoo) hes wearing for life? are those roses, why thorn like patterns on the scalp when tattooing on the scalp is so much more risky? why why why?

    -spamioh was here

  20. Hip Hop is Dead! says:

    BTW, I know rappers who haven't screwed half the women Thrill has that have baby mamas.

    Neither he nor Forerunner mention anything about his personal life. It might have been left out deliberately for credibility's sake. Who knows.

  21. jgil1967 says:

    this kid doesen't even have a wiki page

  22. Sarah Connor says:

    What in the world is going on here? People are freakin today! Seriously!

    This interview is completely in context and relevant to many of the things VC has been posting for some time now. Exposing the wickedness, corrpution and evil that encompass so many areas of our lives right now – especially in the entertainment/media industry. There are so many suspicious and derogatory comments I had to go back and watch it again, maybe I totally missed something? It happens. Well on second review, I still don't understand. Regardless of what either of these men have done in their past, going off this interview, this is what I heard:

    *Today's music is leading the masses to destructive behavior

    *Thrill did not realize how deep music is to our soul, and does now

    *Thrill admits that the music industry changed him and turned him to sex, drugs and rock and roll where he was playing roullette with his own life

    *Admitting the satanic influence and messaging in both symbols and lyrics in an effort to influence people's thinking

    I realize most people on this site 'know' most of this already, but the majority out there do not, let's not forget that. If someone who has no clue watched his because they are a fan, we have no idea of the good work that just started in that person. What in this message, or interview, is suspicious? He is saying that at the risk of having labels not work with him, he has to be true to himself and let people know – specifically gives a out shout out to his brothers in the industry with love that if no one is going to tell you, he will. Isn't that just a little bit of sunshine in an otherwise dark industry? Doesn't someone need to be there to do that? I know faithful people in the industry, making a difference as opportunites arise. They still struggle with sin, but so does every single person walking on this planet, and every day. Straight up! Human condition.

    I'm so disheartened right now by the attack on this man and the message that they are trying to share (which most people DO NOT know) – based off knee jerk reactions & assumptions. Admittedly I do not know this artist. I know he used to be in a band 69 whatever, and yes, the sexual reference is poor. But I looked him up – and this is what I saw. I even listened to a few of his songs – pretty positive messages in my humble. Listen to his testimony. This definately seems like the turn around he was eluding to in this interview – http://4thrilldaplaya.bandcamp.com/album/user-fri

    Or who knows, maybe I'm just blind & naive and he is really a secret illuminati agent, freemason hiding behind glasses, telling us there is a satanic agenda in the music we are listening to and it changes you for the worse. So turn away from it – yeah that makes more sense.

    Comebacks and turn-arounds…….everyone & anyone can have one!!

    • Replay says:

      Thank you. That's what I'm trying to say.

    • Danielle says:

      VERY. WELL. SAID.

    • Nice Guys says:

      well, i guess since he's a rapper, all his credibility goes out the window. Rather let's talk about how many people he has slept with and how many "baby-mamas" he has. Really? People are really being lame in this post.

  23. DDT says:

    It's hard to take seriously the person who wrote "Tootsie Roll." It's even harder when a fire-alarm/carbon-monoxide-detector with a weak battery is chirping away in the backgroung. Nice try, though.

    • IgnoranceIsBliss says:

      I took him serious because I've come to these same conclusions on my own while researching, but still…lol @ you! hilarious

  24. Silentobserver says:

    Is this better >>> :) Bless you.

  25. spamioh says:

    To be fair, "Thrill the playa" seems to be showing good intent, yet he did not reveal more truth than whats already out there and is common knowledge, is anyone else a little bit disappointed by this video? Will we get more google searches because of this video?

    Shout out to all the ones serving the wrong with love? is that what "Thrill" was trying to say? Really?

    Deception is almost always covered with some truth is a concept readers of this site is familiar with right?

    I'm trying to ask the right questions, answers come else where. Despite these shallow personal concerns/questions that came into my mind, this is as VC said, an "interesting interview", and interesting it is at least.

    -spamioh

    • Silentobserver says:

      Ecclesiastes 1:9 said it best, "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun."

      • spamioh says:

        Replay, I apologize for my lack of knowledge in the field of biblical scripture interpretations, and would you kindly clarify/elaborate that a scripture above for me and whoever else that feels confused like myself?

        Were you trying to convey the message of "whats done is done and will be done again"? Man, I feel like I should've kept my mouth shut and just read the comments like I have been instead of spreading my foolishness all over the internet. Again, forgive me for being a newbie at this thing and please explain further for everybody. Thank you.

        -spamioh

  26. DonMagic says:

    Why are ou guys so skeptical about this mans message he is just saying what was on his heart how man other Hip hoppers have come out to say…Hey this is what goes on and this is whats really happening. As far as a "finding Jesus" moment no one is perfect you can be baptized 10 mintues ago and backsliding right now. How many other artists have spoken out and lived or lives ruined. Maybe he was trying to somehow only repeat what we know as far saying hey thiss info is already out there but let me reitterate it and yes it's true. Put your self in his position knowing full well what could come of him speaking out you can clearly see he is nervous and somewhat hesitant which leads to believe there is some type of fear there. As far as shades what Rapper oe Entertainer is not wearing sunglasses even at night whenever you them.

    • spamioh says:

      I myself agree with what you have just said above. Yet I am still very uncomfortable with his tattoo on his scalp, logically speaking, I would probably be covering that up or getting it removed instead of giving it a nice clean shave before the interview.

      Maybe I'm just being too skeptical and reading too much into symbols and clues…or insufficient processing, who knows?

      I still believe we can move away from this "I believe him, I doubt him" back and forth commenting, and focus on the cards/clues we are dealt here from VC, maybe we can even reach a conclusion with enough rational minds behind the discussions, I know VC would be happy to see the comments going somewhere instead of nowhere like it's been for the last 6 hours.

      Posts that are considered trolling and derailing the conversation will be removed as stated above. I sure hope this page gets cleaned up a little.

      • forrrreal says:

        why are *you* uncomfortable with ***his*** tatoo??

        what's it got to do with you?

        his choice

        his actions

        his body

        his past

        his "image"

        his soul

        his relationship to God

        his interview

        what's it got to do with you?

  27. Replay says:

    I’ve noticed that every time a human being is being mentioned on this site, someone, somewhere will pop up in the comments judging/discrediting/insulting this person based on the most minute details. I find this rather irritating and hypocritical as I am convinced that each and single one of the “holier than thou” commentators have committed faults of their own during their lifetime. It takes courage to speak out about these things and these efforts should be applauded, not dismissed in a sea of judgments. How come the same people who keep saying “We need to unite” watch a video and say “He wearing sunglasses he can’t be trusted”. Tell yourself this: by doing this video for free, Thrill accomplished 1000X more than you’ll ever accomplish by bitching on a website. No, attacking people who are speaking out does not make you smarter than most and not an astute observer that “sees through the disinformation”, it makes you a jack-ass for perpetuating the good old adage “Divide and Conquer”.

    And to the “holier than thou” crowd:

    “Do not judge, or you too will be judged” – Matthew 7:1

    • Hip Hop is Dead! says:

      But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

      Revelation 21:8 ESV

    • Silentobserver says:

      Please, my only concern is proper application of God's Word. When one mishandles it carelessly it bothers me, and to be compared to the Pharisees LOL! I am actually attempting to help Replay to "Rightly divide the Word of Truth" as directed in scripture. Thrill Da Playa is held up in prayer, but I see that Replay and his new cheerleader needs the same. Since you asked Polar, I am happy to oblige you. :)

    • Whats Next? says:

      Again, someone quotes scripture out of context. You quoted 4 of the first 5 verses but you left out the critical verse to gain full understanding. Verse 2 "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." In other words, what ever standard you hold someone to, you will be held to the same standard. That is why God is the SUPREME judge because his standards are true and just.

      in Matthew chapter 12, Christ gives us a profound truth. Verse 33 states "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good;or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit." Fruit is the result of actions. Look at all the fruit of the music industry that was displayed on the walls. Did you listen to the beginning to the accolades, fruit, that he received? Did you notice that, as he was about to call out Jay Z, he was apologetic so he could continue to receive "fruit" from him? And he wasn't even that critical of him. That is not judgmental, it is being observant.

      • Silentobserver says:

        Can I just hug you? LOL

      • resurrected says:

        To me life is about judgment and usually if you are using that things called you brain you are usually judging all things around you a least people with a thought process will. Now when I say that it does not mean that you have to judge so negatively and harsh but maybe some people choose to hold themselves up by very high standard which means that they will not just give you a pass. This is why I pray for like minded friends and people around me because at least we can agree on the same realm of reality to stand on. The company that one keeps will always be very important and on the internet you can not judge a person character really all you have is words and I am sure if most of us meet each other on the street many would not mingle.

    • Terri w/an i says:

      Does this scripture refer to judging… or merely making an observation? I think it is my God-given gift to be able to think critically without being judgemental. To say, ‘he has on shades and it is difficult to determine his sincerity’ is not a judgement. It is an observation. My compassion for all of God’s creatures won’t allow me to judge ANYONE… or call people obscene names using language Jesus would’ve NEVER used.

      • Silentobserver says:

        Terri, do not allow the enemy of your soul to intimidate you. A scriptural study on judging can be found here: http://touchyaneighbor.com/study-on-judging/ You ARE to judge with righteous judging and people who misuse and misquote that scripture do so to silence God's people. Do not be deceived!

      • Terri w/an i says:

        SilentObserver: I can appreciate your reproof because you did it in Love. I checked out the article you posted. It is definitely something to meditate on. Thank you for your insight…

      • Silentobserver says:

        Terri thank you so much sister, and God bless!

    • Silentobserver says:

      I have a genuine question for you Replay; have you ever read BEYOND the first verse of the scripture that you quoted? If so, then you should know that using that passage is much more profound than you would like to make it seem. I also find it extremely ironic that you call some on here “holier than thou” then proceed to throw that particular scripture at them. Perhaps you should look in the mirror and judge yourself first, hmm?

      Personally, I found the interview with Thrill interesting but not unlike a lot of others that I have seen. Do you really believe that satan, (god of the AIRwaves) would allow this to be aired if he did not want it to be? Now, I don’t want to be too over the top “holy” for you, but seriously…this guy is NOT out of the hip hop game yet he is speaking out on the thing that prospers him? Does that even make sense? Then he goes on to brag about being the only southern rapper to be featured in a Jay-Z video. That I didn’t get at all. At the end of the day, what did he really reveal? What new message was gleaned from this interview? What insight or revelation knowledge did he bring about the music industry? He is a millionaire, but did he say that he would give that all up for the cause of Christ? No. He didn’t. So at the end of the day, what is this really all about? Can you answer that?

      • Replay says:

        The rest of the Biblical passage.

        3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

        Nuff said.

      • Hip Hop is Dead! says:

        Obviously Thrill don't see the plank in his own eye…

      • Silentobserver says:

        Replay, good job. I see that you have mastered the use of Google, so why don't you utilize the link that I posted above to actually LEARN what those scriptures mean and the proper application of them. I mean no disrespect, but it just shows your ignorance when you quote something, and then in ignorance use what you quoted to make your own argument baseless. SMH.

      • Polar says:

        LOL we see who felt concerned by Replay's comment. Replay, don't mind them, they are the modern day Pharisees pointing their fingers and scorning those who they perceive as sinners instead of helping them right their ways.

      • Jianei says:

        I wasn’t trying to judge him… I was just stating the obvious, and my take on this. I’m not going to explain myself, but to believe everything I hear, is to believe that pigs can fly… And don’t you dare throw a scripture at me– the whole bible is most likely corrupted as far as you know. How dare you use it to your convenience, pfft– and most likely don’t abide by it yourself.

      • IgnoranceIsBliss says:

        Which he is inaccurate about because Pimp C was featured in Big Pimpin' & he's straight out of Texas. Did he say the south or was he only referring to Florida? I surely hope he was only talking about Florida. I watched this video the day that Forerunner uploaded it, so I can't remember.

      • resurrected says:

        Jaybird

        Every book was written by man so what is your point? So do you stop reading period? Yes all book was written by man but I think that God has the power to cover his word and some how it still has manage to be one of the most known, looked after, and informative book in history still. Man is destructive because man wants to be destructive and not because of GOD and that is why it will be judgment and a realm for sinners who so not turn away from there sins and who do not believe in the one who came to set all free. On top of that man is now also manipulating food, soil, plants, information and even people that is just the way of a lost being who does not inform itself.

    • Child of CHRIST says:

      Well said!!!! Shalomxxx

  28. 27moni says:

    you can't judge anyone based on what they did when they were younger. Especialy if that person has acknowlaged what they've done wrong and are trying to warn others. I'm not suprised that people whould dwell on that instead of the message that the man is tryin to deliver.

    • BlackPower says:

      Right you are . Take Michael Jackson as an example, he was introduced to the entertainment industry as a child, perhaps forcibly by his father (Joseph Jackson). So as MJ began to grow as an entertainer and a person, we as the public, have seen him transform into someone else. So can we say that he did these things in his own is intentions, or was his physical transformation forcibly implanted ? MJ allegedly died from propofol intoxication, with needle wounds spread over his body. Could this profoland and Lorazepam be MLK ULTRA programming drugs ?

  29. Doodles says:

    It's not a small thing to not be able to look at or into someone's eyes when they are giving a live or taped interview. Windows of the soul. How can you get a full picture of what someone is saying without seeing the expression of their eyes (unless they are blind). However, just listening is very important,.

    To those that keep taking issue with making judgements…

    We are supposed to make judgements, we cannot live without them. Jesus said to make right judgements. John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgement." According to His word–He is the one ultimately who declares what is right and what is wrong and we are subject to that–like it or not. Even whether you are a Believer or not, we are all subject to His judgement of what is right and what is wrong. So Jesus is our standard–we don't get to decide, we have to base our judgements on His Word. We have to filter what we think about what other people are saying or doing through the Bible–does it line up with Holy Scripture or not. And there's no way to know that unless you read it regularly and BELIEVE what you are reading. This might make some Non-Believers and some Young Believers mad, but it's still true. And this is not according to me, but to God's Word, I don't get to decide (neither do you), only God does. John 8:14–18, John 16:8, and many other verses throughout the Bible bear witness to God's righteous judgements.

    • R3B3LCL3F says:

      God also said that man judges by appearances, but God, Himself, looks at the heart. We dont know anything about the environment of the interview. We dont know Thrill as a person. What we are to judge is what he said, what audience he was speaking to, and why he said it. Does his message agree with our undestanding of God's word? Or have the man's sunglasses simply become a distraction to us? It's unfortunate that he covered his eyes while speaking about a serious topic, but I'm not going to penalize Mr. Bryant (Thrill) for his past or his perogative sense of fashion. It's an awesome thing to see someone that has reached his stature within the music industry speak up about the dark side of the industry (even if it isnt televised), and relate it to the Fall of Man. I dont expect him to be perfect, because I'm not. I wont criticize his tats, because I have one. I'm not going to judge his person, because I too am a person. But I will evaluate whether what he said pertains to me and whether or not I agree with what was spoken.

      Please dont miss the forest for the trees

  30. BlackPower says:

    The interviewer is talking too much

  31. Agent Smith says:

    blah blah blah BEEEP!!! blah blah blah blah blah BEEP!!! blah blah blah blah blah BEEP!!!

  32. Child of CHRIST says:

    In reply to Tristan Harrell. Do you really think that the ANCIENT of DAYS is bothered about whether a woman wears what society deems to be a mans outfit? No offense but that is slightly trivial. I know that the reason we cant judge another human is because The KING of KINGS is only concerned about the heart. In Ancient times when we went by the law, you could not differenciate between men and womens clothing. Thank GOD our REDEEMER fulfilled the law because according to Leviticus we will not be able to wear mixed fibre clothing or shave our hairlines and a hundred many other things. Shalom

    • KILLEGO says:

      I agree with, forgot his name, when he said that women wearing mens clothing would not be fitting for a Godly woman. When women wear pants or shorts, it shows there figure, guys see the figure and what goes through their head? – As a guy its really hard to keep those thoughts out when going out, its the norm now and I really don't like thinking those kinds of things when I'm out. I think if women were to wear traditional dresses, I know it sounds Mormonish, then there'd be less frustration. Less perversion and stares. I mean I go out with my girl and she'll get stares at her bottom half more than anything, and I've gotten a little confrontational about it. No one has ever stared at her face like that and she is very attractive. But dresses are taboo, and to not wear what you want is taboo. And we've come so far in freedoms that theres no way a woman would care to help their brothers out when it comes to coveting. I mean guys are visual right? Girls aren't? What do guys wear for women to have eye candy, I don't think guys wearing womens clothing would do the trick. Its an interesting topic. Thats my take on what he said about that. And would like to know what others feel about that.

      - Its really hard sometimes to not stare at some women, being a guy and all. I think its a problem that hasn't really been addressed. Almost like its accepted, all of these feel good magazines that tell you what to wear to enhance the way your bottom or breasts appear. Do the stares make women feel good about themselves? Does it depend on if the guy whos impregnating you with his mind is cute or not. I've always wondered about this. I know I may piss some women out there off but hey just my two cents on the subject.

      • IgnoranceIsBliss says:

        You're right. You seem like a really good guy just because of how you're looking at this. You actually admitted that you don't want to look! I would say your girlfriend has a really good boyfriend. Kudos to her! What you said is very right though, & I need to take your advice really. I was forced with this when I went out for halloween. I wanted so bad to wear my outfit, it is the only reason why I went out was to wear it. But I had just read in the Bible that I'm not supposed to wear anything that instills lust in men. But due to the fact that I ordered my costume from the United Kingdom a whole year beforehand, I went out anyway. & had the worse night, like seriously. My friend who I was with was looking at women like she was a straight up lesbian, & her boyfriend is a close friend of mine. She even made several comments about women. There was another girl in my backseat who swings that way occasionally as well, & she let her window all the way down looking at a chick. I was just looking side to side like is this really happening to me lol. Seriously though, I need to do better with the dressing thing. I don't really want to instill lust in men, I just want to look nice & make myself feel good. I have to find a balance though. Thanks for saying what you said, it's giving me a lot to think about. I love this site. I love the majority of the people on it.

      • KILLEGO says:

        Thanks for the input, its really nice to see someone who notices this too its really uplifting. Wow that must have been surreal to see your friend behave that way, I'm not judging or anything it's just interesting. I've had a friend that behaved similarly who is also a girl. And I've never looked at any guys in that way and feel that straight guys don't do it either-I mean theyre straight. But when straight girls behave that way, mind boggling. I've thought about this on more than one occasion. So is it possible that women (being the beautiful beings they are) have lost modesty so much, that they are instilling lust in other women too as well as in men? Just bouncing ideas off. So I've always wondered about Halloween and decided to google where it originated from, and here's a link I found on it. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061

      • resurrected says:

        To me when I a women know that she is way more then her body she doesn’t care what I guy wants or does in a non disrespectful manner because he does need her permission to go further. Not trying to sound perfect because I am not but I do not like the idea of causal sex its way too destructive. As a woman I don't want to feel like someone else sex slave because sex to me is a gift not a buffet. I think that the human race has just let itself become way too self indulgent but to each it's own. I never give a man the impression that he can dictate or disrespect my personal space we all want to be treated like human being and not like animals in heat not sure about other people but I see myself as being higher then animal. If you have self control your sexual urges would be the dominate factor of your personality your over all character would be.

  33. BlackPower says:

    & Perla is right. In order to become a Freemason, you must be knowledgeable of everything that is necessary to fulfill your desires of becoming an entertainer. Evidently this rapper knows everything, but he cannot reveal it to the people, or this interviewer . You can even hear him stuttering when the interviewer began talking about the Freemasons, telling the interviewer " Um…….. I can't tell you a lot about the Freemasons…. because um…… I'm not knowledgeable of it. "

    • R3B3LCL3F says:

      I applaud him for saying he doesn't know, rather than dropping speculations that are likely to confuse the public. Rather than blurting what he thinks he knows, he sticks to what he does knows which is the dark side of the music industry as he has experienced it. If he does not fully understand the connection between freemasons and music, then its his right to keep his thoughts about it to himself.

      There are many freemasons who dont know about freemasonry themselves, besides what they are taught about the rites and symbols. Not everyone is an expert on the masonic agenda and its involvements. Just like the military, theres a hierarchy and as informed as we are, even we can never know all that there is to know.

  34. HBK Girl says:

    Great vid. Good message. But somebody please replace that smoke alarm battery. The constant beeping is a distraction. Rookie videography mistake.

  35. Annia says:

    He made a safe interview. Many of the artists interviewd about satanic elements in the industry and secret societies never deny it but they also don't openly speak about it. But they all say the same. I think that if they say 'half truths', or the truth in a light way they won't be punished by the industry. If you take a look, Jay Z, Rihanna and Thrill Da Plata and many others talk about the subject very carefuly chosing the words very well.

  36. Ahsan says:

    Salam!

    For nimrod, there came Hazrat Ibrahim (a.s), for firon, there came Hazrat Musa (a.s) and for bloody dajjal,freemasory,illuminati and stuff like that, there will come Hazrat Essa (a.s).

    Allah Hafiz!

  37. Jaybird says:

    I think all that quoting the bible stuff is crap. It was writtin by men. Used by men to deceive the masses for their own personal gain. The bible is filled with a whole bunch of contradictions. There is a god but i dont believe in the god that was forced upon my ancestors or any other nation or etnicity because they felt they weren't civilized. I bet you no one thought about the bible being deceptive……sometime you have to ask yourself questions and challenge everything. That i believe is commonsense, a gift to mankind from god.

    • Jmck2300 says:

      Most of the Bible is filled with God calling us to withdraw from evil societies i.e. God telling Moses to leave Egypt, God telling Abraham to leave ancient Sumer, and God telling the Christian Church in the Book of Revelation to "come out of Babylon". Incidentally these are the same places where occult symbolism is derived.

  38. GARLAND AK47 says:

    Stop quoting the fucking bible you idiots. Hes wearing shades because…get ready…..THATS WHAT ALL RAPPERRS DO. But yall are to busy listening to gospel music and listening to bullshits molesting priests to know that right?

    • Summerlyn says:

      You have a potty mouth! I guess you couldn't speak like an adult so you picked the ez words to type. That book that you cussed about will save your life if you read and believe it. Shame on you!!!! I bet every other word that comes out of your month is a cuss word. You should try english 101, they actually teach words from the dictionay. God looks after babys and FOOLS. So you're watched over and don't even know it…..

    • resurrected says:

      So what that is what we choose to do with our own personal WILL. If you don't like the bible that is fine because we can create your own personal habits but that same goes for you. I can't stand when people make comments like this as if they have the power to choose for others. This is the epitome of internet bullying but it doesn’t really bother me because I don't trip off of strangers.

  39. Child of God says:

    Thanks to vc who opened my eyes. Its sad to note that even once innocent musicians in my country Namibia joined the darkside.Even the shops where one buy clothes, rings etc are owned by the illuminati. At times i feel why God tells the prophet in my church that he is upset. Please also make time to visit EXministries church articles by Craig G Lewis. He talks about the same things as this site. I watched Truth Behind HipHop yesterday and like i always thought the devil lied to his followers, he did. He apparently convinced his followers that he wasnt judged fairly by God and he need his followers sympathy. What. Pity that these people dont know how fair and patience is God Almighty. Also check out divine revelations about a testimony of ano 18 year old girl that went to hell and heaven.Michael Jackson, pope John Paul II are amongst the soul burning in hell. And kids are also in hell because of watching evil cartoons such as Ben 10 and the rest. I was disgusted. Recently When i saw fake pastors on TBN and some presenters. I also bought sing along dvd for kids in christian shops and its heart breaking that signs are made by small kids. Its such a filthy world. Anyway, i always claim the promise in a bible that says in the last days the world will be evil, but God's children will step on snakes and drink poison but they will not be harmed. I am so happy that we. Serve a faithul God.

  40. Alex says:

    He speaking the straight truth and I hope everyone especially the youth embraces what he's speaking on. Dont be blind to the fact people please wake up.

  41. Tytyluv says:

    All I want to say is this interview was boring. I'm threw listening to people's words, I want to see action. Unfortunately, it's not uncommon for a rapper to turn to God and make christian music. I will pray for him. If his journey is sincere, then amen. If it isn't well "we'll know by the fruit he bears" (Study Matthew 7:16-20). Parents and everyone, let's use our hearts and minds!

  42. Isiah says:

    Oh so just because He rap That mean he don't know what's goin on?

    Ok then I already know what that ish meant always trying to stereotype a brotha

  43. Tom says:

    I TRULY appreciate this website because it affirms what I've suspected for years about the music industry but no one would listen. THANK YOU!!!

  44. Daniel says:

    Real shit! However what I don't understand is how can you believe in secret luciferian societies and still deny the existence of Christ? It sounds to me as if you're in a deception from satan himself to me…

  45. Koviel says:

    As much as I agree that can affect the way you think, and shape the way you are changing. The belief that the 'devil' is behind it is ludicrious to me.

    Firstly the 'devil' and God are transient beings, that can't really contact us. That's why God created Jesus.

    Another thing is that the Devil was God's greatest angel. Now if God is omniscient, which i believe. Why did he create lucifer, so he can suffer? and cause billions of humans to suffer with him? Where does that make sense??

    I think its nothing to do with the devil, but the humans. Illuminati, i think is probably a human organisation that wants to control the world, not through the devil but through media. The symbols are there to make people like us aware of them so we can spread the word and be ridiculed, the symbols are WAY to obvious.

    Im not christian, and i do apologise if i offended anyone. Its just my opinion, that is all.

    Thanks for reading

    • clintA says:

      You need to research your understanding of the gospel a little more. You also need to rethink your perspective on omniscience.

    • readyfreddy says:

      no offense taken by those of us who have been contacted by God.

      if you believed, you would be too.

      thing is, you don't have to believe in the devil to be contacted by him.

      just a heads up. :)

  46. Abbs says:

    To repeat what i said on another article. I have gotten to a point where I don’t care about the illuminate or whatever devices or ploys the devil is using. This is the time to be vigilant and to know where you stand; only the blood of Jesus will save you. Acts2 vs 21 21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. Your logic will not save you, science will not save you, Islam will not save you, but the name of Jesus will save you. This is the time to pledge you alliance to decide whose team you are on because on the day of the Lord there will be one winner and his name is Jesus. I know who I am standing on so no demon, no illuminate, no secret organisation will intimidate me because perfect love casts out all fear. I cannot wait for the devil to be defeated. I pray for the celebrities who have been brainwashed, and even for those who are looking to the wrong things for salvation. Choose wisely. Stay Blessed.

  47. Bigmora1 says:

    For all you people who take refuge in the Bible I have a curious question for you:

    According to 1 Corinthians 11:14 "It is a disgrace for a man to wear long hair."

    Why does Jesus Christ have long hair?

    • Billy says:

      Lol, not that his appearance matters much and more of the Acts that he did for us like die for yours and my sins. Who said he had long hair?? Why are you turning away from Jesus's Gospel because others (Hyporcrits) are showing you renditions of what they "believe" he may look like??

      So you studied just enough to say hey, Jesus wasn't this hippy looking dude but then stopped when Jesus confronts your sins and ask for repentance and to put your trust in him.

      There is a reason why in the old testament the early Prophets were adamant about not having any symbols or images made to represent God. Because people would be like Oh no he looks like me so therefore if God looks or has skin like me he will prefer me over others. Maybe he'll make me a super Angel.

      C'mon people think and study the Gospel for yourselves. Don't let Hypocrites do it for you or turn you away from the truth no matter how hard it hits you personally.

      • resurrected says:

        You know I was watching a special on the history channel about how the Bible was made and it was made like 300 years after Jesus death and there were many stories that never made it in there. There were a lot of people who had God like experiences and took after Jesus message. They wanted to keep it as close to his life and sacrifices as possible because they were many people twisting around his message even some of his disciples who created there own groups of religious follows which I guess many would labeled as a cult. Like the book of Enoch so much good information but it never made in the bible but those books explain a lot of the earlier time during the Adam and Eve period, about the falling angels and nephilim that were walking the earth at that time. About how the early man learned a lot of violent and vain practices from the falling angles of that time which bring us to today and there bloodlines that want to take over the world.

      • clintA says:

        @resurrected

        When you say the Bible was written 300 years after Jesus' death, your most likely talking about when the Bible was canonized. Many of the letter's that the Bible contains were written in the first century. Look in to it. I find it interesting that your getting hung up on 300 years anyway. I mean, isn't the Earth 6.4 billion years old? Whats 300 years? If your truly seeking truth, you'll find it, but the question is will you choose to accept it when you do find it? (by the way, i don't believe the earth is billions of years old)

      • Billy says:

        @ Ressurected

        I like the history Channel but it's not the end source for all History. Sometimes I think it rewrites history just like that illuminati card in the card game. Just because it's on TV doesn't mean its all Kosher.

        The Bible has withstood criticism for 2000 years and still stands strong. The new testament has more manuscripted evidence than any work of antiquity. The discovery of the dead sea scrolls also provided great evidence for the Old Testament. Greater forces/ organizations and nations have tried but failed to discredit it over history.

        Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

        Matt 24:35

    • TheRealReason says:

      You took that whole scripture out of context. I'll prove it to you:

      1 Corinthians 11:14-15, "Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?" "But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering."

      Jewish women covered themselves and long hair was considered covering, not glamorized (unlike the European culture during that time, even by today's standards).

      Also, no were in the bible does it say that Jesus have long hair.

      Revelation 1:14, "His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire"

      Daniel 7:9 "…Anicent of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool"

      Daniel 10:6 "His body was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lighting, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and feet like in the color to polished brass, and voice of his words like the voice of a multitude."

      If you studied Renaissance art, then you would know that the Jesus the artists painted is not the same Jesus in the bible. First off the face of Jesus they pained has both feminine and male features. The curly hair is the biggest giveaway, but there the more. If you noticed the facial structure its the pointed and slender like females. Just take away the facial hair and you are left with a female face. Plus, the hand signs in most of these older pictures is the same sign that Baphomet makes, so these paintings is not the real Jesus at all, because the descriptions are not the same as in the bible.

      http://www.freecrosses.com/jesus_image.jpg

      The image of Jesus largely did not change since the Renaissance, just more masculine face.

      • clintA says:

        I never fully understood that verse either. There has to be something else to it because I don't see how nature itself teaches that it is a shame for man to have long hair. Case and point… the lion and it's mane. I could ask why doesn't the lioness have the mane, but it's seems obvious that the mane is for protection. The lions job is to protect his pride from other competing males. So as it's stated in the Bible, I am not seeing how nature teaches us that it's shameful for a man to have long hair. What am I missing/overlooking?

    • jay says:

      where in the bible does it say he has long hair?

      I think that's just artists impressions we now believe in.

  48. Cyndi says:

    Ok let me first say that although I LOVE this website, that guy said a whole lot of nothing. On top of that, I'm in the music industry and have never heard of this guy to save my life. "Formerly of the 69 boyz" as if that was a great accomplishment. I've seen some of the interviewer's videos before and they're pretty good, but this Thrill Da Playa interview seemed like a waste. If you want to know the industry secrets, interview someone who is no longer in it and can really explain some of the dark, twisted things that go on, not someone who's still trying to make it and get some publicity for his own music.

  49. Cyndi says:

    And if the interviewer says "PILES" one more time – Im gonna DIE LOLOLOLOLOL

    When you're kicking "knowledge" about someone, especially if you're going to make it public, make sure you pronounce their name right SMH

  50. jay says:

    Is it just me or did he pretty-much say nothing…. and why did he need to even throw the number of women he had slept with in there. He said it like he's proud of it. He should be ashamed.

    This was a wasted 12minutes IMHO, he didn't really say anything meaningful.

  51. Sarah Connor says:

    @Silentobserver – coming to you in totally peace this evening and letting you know we agree way more than we disagree, dispite the banter on this thread! I read that blog on judgement, and that was right on! I likewise think you will appreciate this one on milk toast Christianity, and how people like to quote John 3:16 without going further to the equally, or more important scripture in that text: http://endrtimes.blogspot.com/2011/05/milk-toast-

    I apologize if I caused any offense, and I think the point I was mostly trying to make, is that at the end of the day, if Thrill is truly repentant (which are we the ones to say?), it's the same blood that covers him and his sins, as covers us and ours. Ya know? I could have been more delicate so I apologize.

    Anyways – I am looking for some opinion/input/insight into somethings that I would love to hear back on from you, or anyone else who has something to say on the matter. For the past few years while I have been learning how corrupt this rock called earth is, I have also been learning how much paganism/occultism has been intertwined with Christianity. It is worse than I thought! Thanks to the awesome VC poster 'Ernie' – I stumbled across the series Labyrinth of Truth which has got some awesome info. I'm a little less than half way through but plan on finishing it this week. The series I watched last night were the occultic roots in Easter and Christmas, and though I have been exposed to this information before, something about the way it is presented here, and then checking in with my KJV, really hit home. I would really, really appreciate hearing from you or anyone on this, who has spent time researching/praying on what we are to do? Once you know, aren't you held accountable? Kinda like how we are to 'remember' the Sabbath (Sat) because God knew they would change it (to Sunday). Here are the links for the Christmas & Easter videos, they are only 10 minutes and slightly 101 – but this stuff keeps presenting itself to me and I don't think for not. Oh, btw, Godozo posted a link to the little girl Angelica's visit to hell on the Nicki M thread, totally worth the hour! Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, no doubt!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vRdloB70yA – Easter

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSJy4GYFXNE – Christmas

    • Nay says:

      Good post Sarah, those videos were very informative and so is the entire series, plan on watching more of them the back up what I learned in church years ago. Your posts are humble, informative, clear and sincere. Keep telling the truth. If you do, and not intentionally offend, the Spirit of the Lord will convict.

      • Sarah Connor says:

        Bless your heart Nay! Thank you! If you get through it and have input, especially on the pagan origins of what we think are Christian holidays, I would really appreciate hearing back. My peace is seriously disturbed right now on the matter, especially since I have two lil ones that I do not want to raise 'in' the ways of this world. Be in it but not of it and all. I thought I had halloween covered but this just throws a whole new twist. My local church, which I love, does not get it. I'd feel humbled for any input, from anyone, on the matter.

    • Silentobserver says:

      Hi Sarah,

      First of all, NO, you did not offend me at all. It really is difficult to discern intent of words or discussion when they are written and typed so I tend to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I absolutely see where you are coming from in this discussion about Thrill, and while I may not completely agree, I do respect your opinion and what the Word states. ;) I have a lot of respect and deference for your posts on this site, and that is why I allowed the Holy Spirit to restrain me from further comments the other day.

      I was actually discussing the paganism of both Christmas and Easter the other day with my daughter so it is ironic that you have questions about that! Further, I have some information on the Sabbath that may help you as well; there are so many misconceptions about it. I wish that I had time to go into it all now, but I am taking some classes towards my MBA and I have work to finish up right now; however, start with these scriptures and we will go from there because these ARE the last days and scripture tells us that there will be a great falling away and that many deceivers have gone out into the Earth: 2 Timothy 4:1-4, 2 Thessalonians 2:10-15, Jude 1:4. Hopefully we can exchange emails at some point, but the blogger that I referenced above is a friend of mine, he is terribly intelligent and wise with exegesis. Thank you so much for your earlier chastening :p I knew that the Lord loved me then LOL!

    • Nay says:

      Hi Sarah,

      God bless you! Sounds like the The Lord is continually preparing you in His army and as you continue to seek Him, He will reveal and most importantly through His word. So you will understand more of God's agenda even more than the enemy. I already saw the Angelica Zambrano video a few months, a girl in my daughter's school printed out the website and gave it to her. I found it in her closet and went, watched the video with my daughter and read it with her. Arm your children at home with bible study, teach them now as Proverbs 22:6 says Train up a child in the way he should go and when he old he will not depart from it. Yes most churches have not received the truth, I am blessed to have visited a play years back that made it clear with the children asking questions of adults. I felt like scales or blinders fell off my eyes and I was free from the bondage of depression during the holidays etc. It is a lot to go into detail but my Pastor whom God sent me to later on, went in depth about Easter and Christmas, even look at the tree lighting at Rockefeller Center, every year, Why? And the songs O' Christmas tree! I want to let you know, my kids are teens and understand the true meaning and tell their friends and were not forced my beliefs but taught the ways of God, most importantly, I relied on the Holy Spirit, who always brings about a witness of what was said. I told a fellow Christian about Christmas years ago, she got upset and ,"No, Christmas is about fun,and family and gifts and everything happy!" She was offended, I told her the truth, God will do the rest. Stay prayerful, interceed for your home church, ask the Lord to lead you, talk your pastor about your concerns, maybe the Lord is already moving in the congregation and on your pastor about these things. God is in control and has already over come the world, so be at peace. Stay with God daily, as my pastor says, we have a lot to "unlearn" about this world. Oh, I forwarded the videos around after I watched them, and I am getting feedback that people are being blessed. Look how God is using you. ;)

      • forrrreal says:

        celebrating Christ's Resurrection Day, is not the same as celebrating Easter.

        celebrating Christ's Birth, is not the same as celebrating Christmas.

        it is what you do and believe that matters to Christ,

        on those days, and every other day.

        if you are a materialistic person, driven by consumerism and carnal culture,

        you will be celebrating those days as such, just as you do every other day.

        what i don't understand is why people who don't normally go to church, only go on

        those days? that has always baffled me.

    • Silentobserver says:

      SC, I did take the time to watch the videos and two words: AWE SOME! I do not celebrate these pagan holidays, but to anyone reading this who has any doubts…this should zap those in 22 minutes! Sarah. just be honest with your children as we were; they were very receptive to learning the truth and it does not bother them at all not celebrating these holidays. Truly God is shaking the remnant and the truth is being revealed and deception is being slayed. Thanks again, I am going to get that sabbath study to you as well.

    • Tom says:

      @ Sarah Connor et. al.,

      We should all tread very lightly when we try to use only the Bible to explain historical events – remember, the Bible did not come first, but the lived experiences of real people did and that is what is in the Bible. Regarding the KJV, who gave King James the authority to change the Bible anyway?

      Despite what the Seventh-Day Adventists believe, with respect, it was under Emperor Hadrian, who was persecuting Jews in Rome, that Christians, in order to distinguish themselves from the Jews, began to worship on Sundays. It wasn't a pope or Constantine. Even if it was the pope, Christ gave Peter the "keys to the kingdom" and he is regarded as the first pope – though he did not have that title which gave the Church authority to make changes. Most of the stuff we get from the early Church is very real and practical. We would all agree that at its inception rock-n-roll music had nothing to do with Christianity. In fact, rock-n-roll originally meant to have sex in the back seat of a car as it was moving – someone else driving, of course. Hardly the stuff of God. However, how many of we who go to this website listen to Christian Rock? Probably many. So, what does it matter if early Christians, who in an attempt to draw people to Christ, used things in the pagan cultures in which they lived – Easter and Christmas are clear examples of such. Blessings.

      • Sarah Connor says:

        Wow thank you guys for your feedback! I put a few feelers out last night to some of my friends so I've got tons of responses on this, which has given me lots to chew on. Love a challenge and an opportunity to be streched. Anyways, I understand what all three of you are saying, I truly do – and Tom, the response I got back today that gave me the biggest smile,

        "Just because some weirdo somewhere at some time worshiped a FAKE God on that day doesn't mean that I am not allowed to Worship the true God on that day…. EVERY DAY BELONGS TO THE TRUE LORD OF HEAVEN…. and the true God did not evolve from The Goddess of fertility… Easteria. I can replace false worship of false Gods with true worship anytime I want. That fact that a false God was worshiped at one time doesn't mean anything at all because that God didn't exist and so that day never has and could never belong to a NON EXISTENT God….so it means nothing. However, there is a GOD in heaven that does exist and that day belonged to him from the beginning… so they way I see it is….

        Nanner, nanner, nanner, Evil thought it ruled the day of the equinox but…… it appears to me the true and living God (Jesus Christ ) won the day. Just because a few idiots rendered credit to the wrong person on the winter soltice doesn't mean I am evil to render glory to the true God instead"

        Sorry but that just really made me chuckle~ I"m a Ken Klein fan and this was one of my favorite posts of his last year. http://www.kenkleinproductions.net/Christmas_Reli

        I"m still going to continue to look into all of this, from all points as well as God himself, because I find it interesting, and think it very important. And I'd love to see anything you forwad me Silent!!! Unfortunately, like many issues, I think the confusion will continue til His return. Speaking of which, I figured out how to approach the rapture issue, whether it be pre/mid/post tribulation: Conduct yourself today, like is coming tomorrow – but prepare yourself (heart/mind/soul) for the tribulation, in case it isn't. The world will need some stable/steady souls during that time (which I hope not to see). Not people with shocked and shattered faiths. On that alone, I don't worry or think about it anymore. Only God knows.

        Thanks again so much!!!!

    • forrrreal says:

      God knows the intents of the heart. He is the only one who does.

      Most of these debates about "holidays" are started to cause confusion and doubt. God is the Author of neither.

      Believe and trust in God, no one else. No one else knows your heart.

      Oh, and read your Bible. Along with the 10 commandments, from what I've read, He is much more concerned with

      Adultery

      Fornication

      Uncleanness

      Lasciviousness

      Idolatry

      Witchcraft

      Hatred

      Variance

      Emulations

      Wrath

      Strife

      Seditions

      Heresies

      Envyings

      Murders

      Drunkenness

      Revellings and such like

      Evil thoughts

      Deceit

      Blasphemy

      Pride

      Thefts

      Covetousness

      Foolishness

      and

      Wickedness

      If you are sincerely following His Word, and sincerely praying for guidance,

      HE will guide you like no article, or internet, nor "history lesson" can.

      I just wish more people would believe they can get their answers directly from The Source, instead of continually turning to fellow fallible humans who always have their own agendas and opinions.

      Mainly, that they have to be right.

      We are each responsible for OUR OWN relationship with God, through His Beloved Son, Jesus Christ, Blessed be His Holy Name.

      If you do not want to celebrate His birth, death, and resurrection because some pagan said they started the "holiday", be my guest. However, since Jesus Christ is THE ONE who died and rose again, I believe that HE deserves ALL the Glory and Honor and Praise due His Holy Name. And I will celebrate Him on any and every day I choose, regardless of anyones claim that they "own" a holiday.

      After all, who is the Creator of all days? One cannot claim something that was never theirs to begin with. All time, and every thing in it, begins and ends with Jesus Christ.

      Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

      These meaningless arguments get on my nerves a bit. Sorry.

      • Sarah Connor says:

        OUCH! Sorry I brought it up, for reals! I loved your post, and the feedback I got, here and elsewhere. Stimulating learning and growing was what I was thinking….seeking God on it is #1 – totally agree, but sometimes for me there can still be room for confusion. Like people I know thinking vaccines are from God to keep us healthy, or Osama Bin laden is responsible for 911 so they pray to God to bring justice and believe last May was God's answer back etc…it gets complicated sometimes. And sometimes I am just a big dummy – not saying you were saying all this, I just hate to have ruined your day. I seriously have loved reading your posts. I hope you feel better or get over it soon! Thanks for your input nonetheless. Hopefully somewhere, someone learned something, other than myself, so it wasn't all in vain.

      • Silentobserver says:

        Can't argue with that lol. My thing is why bother worshiping a "day" at all? The true worshiper will worship in spirit and in truth every day. To celebrate Christmas as the day that Christ was born is to celebrate (or worship) a day, not Him. Same with Easter. Both are paganistic in nature and have little to nothing to do with Him at all. By the same token, I don't begrudge the next man for celebrating Christ in his own way; I do not ask for anyone to agree with my views, I don't follow a lot of internet philosophers or historians or so-called theologians because too many deceivers have gone out into the world perverting the gospel. I search the Word for understanding only. That's it and that's all.

      • Nay says:

        I come in peace, I love God every day, others do too, some do not understand the history behind the culture of the times and get information. Paul not only read scripture, he wrote it and studied at the feet of Gamaliel so he was taught in many things. Being deep with God is humility, not telling people off.

  52. Vision says:

    I'ts a battle for our mind , a test … We are at war with ourselves

  53. Religionspawnswars says:

    The man hosting the show is very homophobic & deeply religious. I don't listen to people that want to control what others believe & or are allowed to do. Especially when it comes to love. In many of his videos he ties gay people to the devil. I have plenty of friends & family who are gay christians & pillars of their community. So I take everything he says as his own agenda, sprinkled with truths. Period.

    • forrrreal says:

      homophobia isn't real.

      that word would suggest that someone is scared of a homosexual, which would be a very rare thing indeed.

      to disagree with the lifestyle is not being homophobic, it is being disagreeable.

      people just don't like it to be said that they are wrong.

      what i don't get is why so many people care what other people think?

      THAT is the real phobia.

      i believe the Bible.

      the Bible says men f*cking men is wrong.

      i don't care if you believe it or not.

      your life, your problem.

      i don't want you to go to hell, nor does any other Christian.

      that is why most of them choose to speak against homosexuality.

      which, by the way, is not about the person, but the sexual perversion.

      but it is still your life, your choice, your body, your recompense.

      you don't have to listen or believe it. but the message DID NOT ORIGINATE WITH US.

      hate the message, hate the messenger…. and guess who the Messenger is?

      your life.

      your death.

      your choice.

      • Nay says:

        Truthful but…. angry much? the f word in the same sentence as bible…. God help us. .. Oh and I come in peace.

  54. Nay says:

    very good article

  55. love knoxxz says:

    To those who have watched this video and other interviews or documentaries(and of course the wonderous amount of information here at Vigilant Citizen), dealing with the spiritual nature of music, and the entertainment industry as a whole, we should know that NO ENTERTAINER is going to give you the 100percent truth on the inner workings of the industry. They will tell you certain things or instances,but rarely if ever, the more intricate or sensational knowledege that we waiting to hear. But with that in mind be content with God has given you to know,because there are many things that if you were to discover would really either leave you in a state of depression or worse. So to those who are aware of these activities in the industry and have the grace of God,what are you going to do with this knowledge? Let the Word of God and The Holy Spirit guide your thoughts,behaviors and every aspect of your life. You can't deal with these spiritual matters with out spiritual understanding, guidance, and especially PROTECTION! Take heed, for your enemy never sleeps, rests, or takes time off to deceive and lure those who do not have the love of Christ in them. To my brothers and sisters in Christ let no man deceive you, not all religions are the same aand Christ cannot be equated with anyother person or thing in exsistence,except to God Himself.

    • Tom says:

      I have a question – dilemam more accurately – for all who would indulge me, and I'm open to all suggestions. I teach high school (US History, sociology and psychology) and I've tried to broach this topic of mind control with my students by showing them films such as "Conspiracy Theory"(can't use this anymore because of its "R" rating), "The Manchurian Candidate", and a documentary entitled "The Merchants of Cool", "The Island" and even "America: From Freedom to Fascism." I'm one of those teachers whom the kids like, but it's not all warm-fuzzies…I challenge them to think for themselves. I use information/articles about mind control from another great website "Informationliberation." I'm assuming you all are younger than me (I'll be half a century this year) and a little closer in age to my students. So my question is how do I talk about this stuff without turning them off? If my highschool teacher told me that Jimmy Page was a disciple of Aleister Crowley who was a satanist, and that Led Zepplin's music is tainted with satanic messages, as is most rock music, then I would have said "who cares?" I don't want this to happen with my students. Any suggestions? Thanks.

  56. Sarah Connor says:

    LOL, it is so obnoxious, I know ;-)

  57. .... says:

    Proselytizing for or against a religion——–VC why is this rule not abided by? its fundamentalist land up in here!! im a liberal believer, i also accept the possibility that religion itself maybe another tool of the elite that this site speaks of , to keep us mentally enslaved and unable to really break free from the ties that bind us, beneath a lie sometimes is the truth, and beneath a truth is sometimes a lie..at times translated to english bible quotes used are taken out of context from their original meanings, thats fine if u accept that you are using the verse liberally…but its usually conservative fundamentalist that use the quotes the most liberally!!! :/ its pagan this and pagan that… what i get from some stories in the bible is a narrative of the various ancient peoples with prejudices about eachother and their forms of worship ….i feel uncomfortable reading how in the bible slavery is condoned,or the genocide permitted by a loving god…just because one group claims the rights to the truth doesnt mean its true….thats sounds like a conspriracy right there!

  58. BEL says:

    It is extremely sad for me to see that out of all the valuable information this human being has provided the focus of all attentions has been the 700 women he slept with….

    once again deviated from truth by the dark side….