Therapist ‘Brainwashed’ Woman Into Believing She Was In Satanic Cult

Dec 1st, 2011 | Category: Latest News | 111 comments


Is Castlewood Treatment Center in St-Louis a mind control site?

This story has been reported by several media outlets and, although never actually stated in news reports, it bare all of the hallmarks of mind control programming namely: Multiple personalities, satanic rituals, psychotropic drugs, hypnosis, false memories and horrific acts of abuse. The details in the following ABC News article are not simply about a woman being brainwashed into believing something, it is pure Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA), the basic foundation of Monarch programming.

Therapist ‘Brainwashed’ Woman Into Believing She Was In Satanic Cult, Attorney Says

A psychologist accused of hypnotizing a woman into believing she possessed multiple personalities and participated in satanic rituals may be sued by several others who say they were also told they had been a part of a satanic cult, according to a Missouri attorney.

Lisa Nasseff, 41, of Saint Paul, Minn., is suing her former therapist, Mark Schwartz, and the Castlewood Treatment Center in St. Louis, Mo., where she received 15 months of treatment for anorexia, according to the complaint.

Instead of improving, the lawsuit alleges Nasseff suffered “great physical pain and suffering and anguish” during her time at the facility, and asserts that she will continue to suffer.

“She was hospitalized multiple times,” Nasseff’s lawyer, Kenneth Vuylsteke, told ABCNews.com. “One time she tried to commit suicide … she’s done much better now that she’s been away from there.”

The complaint alleges Nasseff’s therapist, Mark Schwartz, “carelessly and negligently hypnotized [Nasseff]” while she was under the influence of “various psychotropic medications” to treat depression and anxiety. The hypnosis allegedly created false memories, including the belief that she was “a member of a satanic cult and that she was involved in or perpetrated various criminal and horrific acts of abuse.”

One of those acts included “sacrificing her sister’s baby on the altar of Satan,” according to Vuylsteke.

Nasseff “was in a highly vulnerable physical and mental state due to her pre-existing eating disorder,” according to the complaint.

The lawsuit also alleges Schwartz “persuaded and convinced [Nasseff] to become increasingly isolated from her family and friends by leading her to believe said persons were involved in a satanic cult and that they had been and would continue to sexually abuse her and force her to engage in criminal acts and horrific abuse of others.”

But then other women receiving treatment at the facility began to realize their stories were very similar to one another’s, Vuylsteke said.

“She got together with other women who had been through this with her at Castlewood. And they said, ‘How can we all have been members of cults and not know it — two years ago, three years ago? We all got brainwashed? It can’t be right.”

Now “multiple individuals” are speaking out about Castlewood, and backing Nasseff’s account of what took place there, Vuylsteke added.

“We’ve got other cases we’re looking at right now,” Vuylsteke told ABCNews.com, adding the alleged victims’ stories, all involving women, look “remarkably similar.”

At this stage, he declined to say exactly how many women are claiming false memory implantation.

“All I can tell you is it’s several. We’re in the process of evaluating them right now,” he said.

Schwartz, the therapist who treated Nasseff at Castlewood and still serves as the facility’s clinical co-director, denied ever hypnotizing Nasseff.

“We don’t use hypnosis,” said Schwartz, who told ABCNews.com he has not yet retained a lawyer. “It’s usually exposure therapy where the person is exposed to the memories of their trauma in various ways in order to move beyond it … A person is avoiding the memories and the feelings [associated with those memories] so you have them begin to talk about it in a safe way, that’s not re-victimizing.”

He also said he had never discussed satanic cults with Nasseff, and she had never told him she committed any criminal acts.

“I don’t know anything about all that,” he said.

He did confirm she had been given anti-depressants and that they had discussed “sexual trauma,” but “the details I don’t even remember.”

“She reported abuse history, we dealt with it, she got a lot better, and now she’s suing us,” he said.

“Emotionally it hurts. You give everything you have to these clients and you really care about them. When they file a lawsuit it really stings.”

On the Castlewood website, it states the treatment center’s staff specializes in several areas, including hypnosis.

Castlewood Treatment Center did not respond to an interview request from ABCNews.com, but the executive director of the facility, Nancy Albers, told Courthouse News Service, “We strongly believe that all of these claims are without merit and we intend to defend these claims vigorously.”

Implanted Memories at Castlewood?

According to the complaint, Nasseff stayed at Castlewood for about eight months, beginning in July of 2007. She later returned to the clinic in Mary of 2009 for an additional seven months of treatment before leaving the facility in December that same year.

In October of 2010, Schwartz allegedly contacted Nasseff, according to the lawsuit, and “told her if she did not return to Castlewood Treatment Center for additional psychological counseling and treatment she would most assuredly die from her eating disorder.”

One year later, in October 2011, the complaint alleges Schwartz left Nasseff a telephone message saying her lawsuit would expose her multiple rapes, and her “membership in a satanic cult” as well as the individuals who were also members.

When asked about that phone call, Schwartz told ABCNews.com he had called Nasseff to say, “I’m worried about this because you told me a lot of information that is very, very confidential. When you file a lawsuit it all comes out, and it’s a lot of secrets that you told me.”

“It was really just concern,” he said. “When people go to a therapist they expect confidentiality and privacy. It just breaks my heart that … she said a lot of horrible things that are going to come out.”

The lawsuit claims Nasseff was “singled out and targeted” based, in part, on her “ability to pay for long-term continuous inpatient services.”

She is now seeking $650,000 for the “medical, counseling and therapy treatment expenses” she incurred as a result of the alleged treatment, and $350,000 for non-economic costs, Vuylsteke said.

Vulnerable Patients Susceptible to Implanted Memories

Nasseff’s lawyer, Vuylsteke, admitted he was skeptical when he first heard about Nasseff’s case.

But then he met her in person.

“Lisa … is a highly intelligent individual,” he said. “When I spoke with her I understood then what happened and what she had to work through to come to the realization that all of this was implanted.”

He was further convinced after speaking with Bill Smoler, a prominent attorney from Madison, Wis., who is well-regarded among false memory experts. In January Smoler won a $1 million verdict for the parents of a girl who accused them of abuse after receiving inpatient therapy, and will be joining Nasseff’s case as co-counsel, Vuylsteke said.

There’s no credible scientific evidence that the human brain can store “repressed memories,” according to University of California at Irvine professor Elizabeth Loftus, one of the country’s foremost experts on false memory.

But psychologists have demonstrated it’s possible to implant memories.

“In my research we plant false memories in the minds of people in order to study the process,” she said. “There have been hundreds of cases … where people have gone into therapy and were led to believe they were molested.”

It’s a problem that emerged in the ’80s and ’90s, according to the False Memory Foundation, an organization founded in 1992 after a spate of cases where adults claimed to have uncovered “repressed memories” of childhood sexual abuse during therapy sessions. The revelations, however, weren’t true.

“They were just exploding at that time,” said False Memory Foundation co-founder Pamela Freyd, adding that the cases often involved inpatients participating in both hypnosis and support groups while on medication.

Chris Barden, a psychologist and attorney based in Minnesota was at the helm of many of those cases.

“During the 1990s I conducted more lawsuits against ‘recovered memory’ therapists than, I believe, any other lawyer in the world … for a total near 300 in over 30 states,” he told ABCNews.com. “I won all but one of them.”

The False Memory Foundation website states false memories “can result from the influence of external factors, such as the opinion of an authority figure or information repeated in the culture. An individual with an internal desire to please, to get better or to conform can easily be affected by such influences.”

For intelligent, creative people with imaginations, Freyd said, “it may be easier for them to conjure up the kinds of images that develop in this kind of environment.” But anyone seeking therapy is already in a vulnerable position, she added, and susceptible to persuasion.

“You believe the person you are seeing is an expert who will help you return to normal, you are going to try to do what this expert says needs to be done,” said Freyd. “And if an expert says you need to recover memories, people who want to get better or be sure they’re doing what the doctor says will work in that direction.”

Steven Lynn, a memory expert and professor of psychology at Binghamton University in New York, told ABCNews.com it’s possible to implant “all kinds of things.”

“There’s research showing you can implant memories of witnessing a demonic possession,” he said.

Schwartz denied having implanted Nasseff’s memories, but he did say he practices exposure therapy, which is typically used as treatment for people who have PTSD, according to Lynn.

“The idea is that you present the person with imagined themes that have occurred in the past that tend to bring forth anxiety and symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder,” Lynn said. “So by repeating exposure to the theme people learn how to not be so afraid of the situation they were formerly fearful of.”

Exposure therapy can yield positive results in the right setting. But if someone has not actually been exposed to the traumatic event they’re asked to re-imagine, exposure therapy can have a much different effect, Loftus said.

“If you take a group of women who have been raped and have them contemplate their legitimate rape experience then pretty soon many of them will be able to think about it without feeling as much emotion and pain,” said Loftus. “But if you’re exposing somebody to something that didn’t happen then something completely different is going on.”

- Source: ABC News


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111 Comments to “Therapist ‘Brainwashed’ Woman Into Believing She Was In Satanic Cult”

  1. Victor says:

    I heard about this in my Judgement and Decision making psychology class, the woman wound up getting like a million dollars from the case.

  2. Jack says:

    Inquiring minds want to know what happened to the Therapist?

    • MP says:

      “I don’t know anything about all that,” he said.

      LOL its hilarious how mainstreamers will read this article and come away thinking "oh they can create repressed memories, that is crazy!' and go back to watching dancing with the stars.

      this is one of the most blatant examples of mind control programming leaking into the MSM. It is wide open for us to see.

      • CerebralGirl says:

        I attempted to explain the whole MK Ultra top secret mind control program thing to my friend (it's kind of hard to explain these sort of things because everything is interconnected and links together like a puzzle; if someone was to explain these things one would have to be strategic in their explanation, have resources to back, and know to have at least 2 hours to talk).

        She said, "ha, no way, you're crazy."

        and she went back to watching America's Got Talent.

      • me says:

        You're so right! It is hard work to try and tell people about it when even you don't know that much(I'm talking about myself-I've only reached the peak of the iceberg) and everything is like a huge cobweb of information. When I only talk to them about one thread it does not seem plausible. For me the worst thing is that someone is really interested and fascinated of what I say and I don't feel like I make them understand the facts well enough so I'm afraid not to lose a mind that can be saved.

        About those talent shows and all…they are very attention-gripping and people like to watch them for detaching from reality…it's like a drug.They give pleasure and it is hard to stop being a sucker for them.

      • Tom says:

        False memory syndrome was actually created by the very people who are heavily responsible for programming slaves, so it seems highly suspicious that the lawsuit involves "false memory" something that doesn't even exist and was actually created to protect the handler. You can not create false memories in someone however you can unearth memories that have been dormant in a person through alters/multiple personalities. This entire story is highly suspect. In many cases the victim can not differentiate because of loss of time and compartmentalization, however once those memories surface through hypnosis, I believe they are difficult to dispute. Very questionable.

      • Period1 says:

        If you want easy proof of massive mind control, just show them a television. Tell them the real reason why they call the order of their shows "programming". How it induces hypnosis, and why people find themselves staring at it or suddenly loose their previous thought when they stop to watch it. How you can tell a t.v. is on in the house, even when it is mute and you are not in the same room. How you can easily remember catchy tunes or jingles from a commercial, or what a commercial is about. How different advertisers play on emotions, sexual suggestion, the left and right brain, inadequacy and the male role vs. the female role.

        Really, T.V. is the biggest mass mind control tool they have right now. If the television wasn't invented, they wouldn't have advances as far in their agenda as they have in 20th century.

  3. nor says:

    no rehab for me, thank you.

  4. Circa horrid says:

    "When asked about that phone call, Schwartz told ABCNews.com he had called Nasseff to say, “I’m worried about this because you told me a lot of information that is very, very confidential. When you file a lawsuit it all comes out, and it’s a lot of secrets that you told me.”

    “It was really just concern,” he said. “When people go to a therapist they expect confidentiality and privacy. It just breaks my heart that … she said a lot of horrible things that are going to come out.”

    lol what a scum bag, he leaves an answering message, bullying her with fear to try and drop the lawsuit, then when he gets caught tries to play is off as "concern" what a joke, hope he rots in jail and gets raped.

    • Jack says:

      He is not in jail. He now testifies as an expert witness. That is the link I posted…

    • AndreaM says:

      Now wait a minute. Something's fishy here. How do you know that the therapist is the bad guy in this case? The lawsuit and article both are skewed to discredit him, and automatically assume that victim's memories are false. We who visit this website know that it's more likely to be true, and that this woman's family/lawyers, etc. have a stake in making her think it's bogus. If this man has spent his career as a sex therapist, he is most likely seeing more and more patients every year that have experienced these traumas. What a coup for the Ills. if they can undermine the veracity of satanic ritual abuse in the minds of the general public, by using this guy as a scapegoat and presenting some fake experts to say "Oh it's all made up."

      I feel kind of sorry for this guy, they're about to ruin his life for exposing their horrendous secrets. I also feel bad for the patient, because now she will never receive the help and healing she deserves from the mental health community. She will, most likely, continue to be a slave to her tormentors. We should all pray for her deliverance, in body and soul.

      • Elektra says:

        Ya… something is fishy I agree. I understand the false memory implant, but how could that be Monarch Mind control?

      • Skeptical says:

        @AndreaM = Agreed! You can't take everything you read at face value. There is ALWAYS the REAL story that is barely discernable between the lines. My take is much like yours: she sounds like the textbook abuse victim and multiple to me. Methinks she is trying to a) backpeddle on everything she told the doctor, b) discredit the doctor, c) save face for her family, and d) GET MONEY out of it.

      • Jack says:

        I think allot of this Satan stuff is just made up. I think that pedophiles & their minions dominate the ranks of the elite and have for several generations dating back to the days of Emperors, Pharaohs, Kings & Queens. The don't believe in Satan any more than they do God but have learned to manipulate the belief systems of the masses over the millennium. Implanting false memories in the victims as well as non-victims is a brilliant way to misguide investigators. Icke, Alex Jones and a few others who find the practice of pedophilia offensive enough to talk about, are all convinced the Elite are practicing in the Occult because of these implanted psychological manipulations. I suggest "Satanism" is just one more layer of insulation to protect the guilty. Not only would an investigator be accusing an outstanding member of the community of raping a child, they would need to add the victims implanted memories of Satanic rituals. All the defense lawyer would need is just one member of the jury who equates "Satanic Rituals" with "Conspiracy Theories" to get a not guilty verdict. They should be following this "therapist" 24/7…

        Maybe this guy is just WAY out there and had no intention of hurting anyone. He is not on trial, yet, and I am just speculating.

        Maybe pedophiles & pedophile satanists are 2 different entities with the Elite being no more inclined to either practice than anyone else. Maybe pedophiles aren't organized and aren't anymore influential than anyone else.

        However, anyone want to explain why sex with children is not prohibited in any Jewish, Christian or Islamic religious text I am aware of? Certainly it is a sin, but for some reason religious laws can not be used to prosecute that type sinner.

      • Alex says:

        This! False memories are a lie! The satanic cult and torture are real and they are trying to cover up monarch program.

      • Jas says:

        @Jack. The bible does not support those type of sins. Jesus Christ said in Matthew 18:6 concerning the topic, " But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." (KJV).

      • bob says:

        that s exactly the first thing that come to my mind, why would somebody turn a totally normal woman into believing she has been part of a satanic cult etc.

        that makes no sense I think it s the other way around.

        the guy might have been digging a little to deep in the rabbit hole and now that alice fell off

        she is being used to sue this guy so he won t discover more or actually expose the people behind it.

        Of course I would be scary if some guy can implement false memories in your head but wouldn t it make more sense, to have somebody think he or she is saving the world a la sucker punch, while being abused and tortured then actually making some who is totally normal believe he or she is being tortured or raped.

        I mean maybe this could be reversed psychology on a whole new level but I doubt that

        I mean if really so why would those fancy lawyers jump on that case. they don t help people for humanity because the good guys lawyers are mostly down for whatever as long as the money LONG !

      • Rebecca says:

        We don't have enough information to figure out why a therapist would do this to this particular woman. We do there are many cases where therapists take advantage of their positions, and that "repressed memories" have never been proven as the article states. Maybe this woman is being used as a guinea pig to further the mind control technique and general knowledge. It's happened before. Look at all the various college kids they did MK on in the 50s and 60s when it was starting out.

      • anon says:

        Exactly. This article would make it seem like the doctor is the crazy one, but is that really true? Believe it or not, a friend of mine's aunt used to be a psychologist and almost this exact same thing happen to her. Before reading about all this Illuminati stuff I always just assumed that the memories WERE false but…were they? She treated a woman who under hypnosis, and during that time it was revealed that she had hundreds of personalities and was abused in a satanic cult during her childhood. She eventually sued my friend's aunt and she got her psychiatric license taken away from her because of this case. I just think this has happened so many times to many doctors. I personally don't know what's true and false with any of these stories, but can they ALL be false memories? And have any of these cases ever resulted in arrests in actual satanic cults?? I really don't know.

      • Hmm... says:

        If much of what's written about Monarch is indeed accurate would the timing and everything else mentioned in the following quote really raise eyebrows?! Weird that all these "implanted memories" started popping up when they did, but thank God the False Memory Foundation has the experience to handle so deftly something like this coming up in the 2000's….

        It’s a problem that emerged in the ’80s and ’90s, according to the False Memory Foundation, an organization founded in 1992 after a spate of cases where adults claimed to have uncovered “repressed memories” of childhood sexual abuse during therapy sessions. The revelations, however, weren’t true.

        “They were just exploding at that time,” said False Memory Foundation co-founder Pamela Freyd, adding that the cases often involved inpatients participating in both hypnosis and support groups while on medication.

        Chris Barden, a psychologist and attorney based in Minnesota was at the helm of many of those cases.

        “During the 1990s I conducted more lawsuits against ‘recovered memory’ therapists than, I believe, any other lawyer in the world … for a total near 300 in over 30 states,” he told ABCNews.com. “I won all but one of them.”

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wLkdkCKZDE

      • In the know says:

        It takes a lot of courage to speak out… I feel for the patients

      • tom says:

        to AndreaM:

        I think you've got the point there,

        it is worth to remember something about the "false memory syndrome foundation":

        "…False Memory Syndrome

        Foundation was hurriedly created to discredit the memories that these victims are

        now having. It is a gigantic cover-up, which, as usual, the media has bought hook,

        line, and sinker. Claiming the victim is suffering from "false memory" is now the

        easiest way for those accused of abusing children to walk free from the courts and

        the media reports these cases as if those accused are the victims. Are some people

        falsely accused though malice? Yes, of course that is going to happen from time to

        time. But are most of these cases untrue. No way. Just look at some of the people

        behind the creation of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. The leading lights

        were Ralph Underwager, a Lutheran Minister and psychologist from Minnesota,

        and his wife, Hollida Wakefield. Underwager has been called as an "expert" witness

        in child abuse cases. This is the same couple who were interviewed in the winter

        1993 edition of the Dutch paedophile magazine, Paedika, and were supportive of

        paedophilia! (see http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/NudistHallofShame
        Underwager2.html). Also involved with the creation of the False Memory Syndrome

        Foundation were Pamela and Peter Freyd, who present themselves as falsely accused

        parents. Their daughter Jennifer Freyd is now Professor of Psychology at the

        University of Oregon. She is adamant that her accusations of parental abuse are true

        and she has spoken out against the motives and methods of the False Memory

        Syndrome Foundation (see http://www.movingforward.org/v2n5-birrell.html for

        some further background from a friend of Jennifer Freyd)…" (from "children of the matrix" by D.Icke)

      • Uhem says:

        Jack: Then your knowledge of religion is limited. In Islam having sex with someone who hasn't yet reached puberty is considered (rightly so) rape. Rape in Islam results in the death penalty, be the victim a child or an adult.

      • BeenThereDoneThat says:

        Exactly, AndreaM! As one whose dissociative abilities are good enough to have actually kept my day-time self more sane than not, I can easily see how this article is designed to make people think there's no such thing as the Satanic network and that for some reason a therapist would implant false memories just for the heck of it. I'm not buying it, at all. My very educated guess is that she's another slave like me, but whose programmed alter personalities, and the traumas that created them, aren't contained well enough, so she presents a lot of the emotional issues that seem to have no source in her day-time personality's life but do stem from the really nasty abuse she's received since birth. The FMF people have been thoroughly discredited by the serious researchers of this topic who have no other dog in the fight except to help the victims of SRA.

        It is quite common for victims who can't keep their regular lives together to go to therapy, then when the alter personalities start coming out and telling the stories, the network reels the victim back in and programs the attack plan against the therapists into them. Sadly, the victim doesn't even know this is happening.

        I'd like to leave a thought for those of you who still think the therapist here is the mind-controller and that there's no Satanic network actually creating mind-controlled slaves. If a therapist whose life is dedicated to helping the mentally ill can, in just a few short weeks or months, instill false memories into a person using hypnosis and drugs, what do you think a very old, very organized and experienced network of occultists can do to the same person, using the same methods plus mind-boggling torture, if they have access to the person since the day he/she was born?

      • Concerned says:

        I can't believe what I'm reading there is a Dutch paedophilia magazine. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that illegal, why isn't the Dutch people doing anything about it, or U.S liberating the people. I think too many of them molesters and rapists are allowed to get away with their actions because of the jury system and unanimous verdicts, and even when they are found to be guilty they get new identities and wages. I think it's ironic that these scum even try to hide their doings because of their shame when I thought they thought they weren't doing anything wrong and it's normal for them but they must know that they are evil and they get comfort in groups but the the problem is people think these scum are afew but theres loads of them and they are running this world. Children grow up to be adults bet they wouldn't even recognise if one of their victims came and killed them.

    • Muslim says:

      And gets raped?

      You feeling ok? You're just thinking like these illuminati people now!

  5. cokeroo says:

    …the plot thickens

  6. AW says:

    These poor people :(

  7. Dirty Dave says:

    Just another day in the lives of the weak minded . psyco babble is for losers who get what they deserve.

    woody allen was funny when he was the only super messed up head case.

    now hes just the perv nexdoor

  8. rose in massachusett says:

    This shows that a lot of so-called therapists are pretty darn sick themselves. Some of the really want to help, of course, and some of them seem to have a superiority complex and seem to enjoy tormenting vulnerable and gullible people to reinforce their narcissism.

  9. Sheree' says:

    That's a lot of stuff he was to doing to her for someone who only has an eating disorder. That's a lot of inpatient therapy as well. I find that unnecessary. It is also unethical and downright stupid to contact the patient by phone or any other way after being hit with a lawsuit. After being informed that you're being sued, you should cut all ties with the patient and let your attorney handle everything or be the middle man. Yeah this story is suspicious.

    • Nicol says:

      Exactly, those parts of it make me wonder and for some reason his comments on the situation make me suspicious as well. I can't explain why… the things he said just sounded so… fake.

      Besides that, I would've also thought that maybe the woman Was apart of a satanic cult and never told anyone but those stupid fake memories make me Highly doubt that. Like sacrificing her sister's baby?! (The writers at ABC should've been less biased, i agree, b/c now i want to know if her sister's baby went missing or if it was said to have died for unexplained reasons.) But if the baby hadn't, then that in itSelf says the therapist is at fault.

      Lastly, how could all those women been apart of a cult and ended up in the same mental hospital like that? One could say they all have multiple personalities and the original personality noticed something was wrong and rushed to the facility… but All of them? And their families would've noted problems with them besides depression, anorexia, and anxiety.

      It's a damn shame though, i was just at a mental hospital for attempted suicide. They weren't very helpful; the patients helped me more than the psychiatrist did, so i know what it's like to trust ppl and expect help but get nothing but meds and disrespect. Just hopefully that woman will get the help she deserves. And thank God i wasn't in a horrible institute like that. The only suspicious thing that happened to me was in a group class. We were doing arts & crafts and they had a Beatles cd playing. That's nothing compared to the one in St. Louis.

      • Valerie says:

        Even if there were some inquiry as to whether her sister's baby went missing or died somehow that may not even be enough evidence because in many cases where babies are sacrificed their births are not entered into the national database so there won't be any paper trails. Sometimes women in these satanic cults have a baby for the simple purpose of having it sacrificed after birth and sometimes there are women who are breeders whose sole purpose is to get pregnant with babies that will be sacrificed for the cult. In these cases the babies are never registered as having ever been born so no one will even know they existed.

      • Paul says:

        @Valerie And sometimes babies are sacrificed before birth through some means of causing the early onset of labour or outright abortion. A little mild poison or a slip and fall incident… It would be interesting to know if the sister miscarried at some point in the past and what the story might have been around it.

      • in search for justic says:

        hey nicol, just wondering, why is it the patient thought to be in a satanic cult……why not the doctor being the one involved in that? just questioning…….just because they have those two letters before their name, doesnt make them always with good intentions.

    • Irritated says:

      "only has an eating disroder"!? "Only"!!?

      Anorexia is a sign of very serious psychosis, identity disorder and deep trauma. It has massive harmful impact on health and often leads to death.

      Are you nuts?

      I suppose you have a lot of experience successfully treating anorexics.. NOT!

      • Drewe says:

        People with low self-esteem, who believe they're completely worthless, are contaminated by negativity, hence they don't allow themselves to get fed.

  10. meekameek says:

    This is both sad and scary at the same time…I currently reside in St Louis and have never heard of that place….I will put the word out now tho…

    • Lena8423 says:

      This is an incredibly one sided story. I, along with many other women and men, have been greatly helped by Castlewood. I doubt I would be in recovery today if it weren't for the help I received there.

  11. Kiwi Yogourt says:

    Wow mind control is happening, it is clearly reported in mainstream news yet most people still don't see it. It's like the world's been trained to be blind to it.

    • Me Myself & Eye says:

      The world is blind to mind control cause the world is under mind control, not the MK Ultra type but still a form of mind control (you need proof of this watch "the century of self").

  12. Jamie says:

    All this came from an eating disorder? Goodness, guess I'd rather have that then something that really didn't happen running around in my head rent free.

  13. Me Myself & Eye says:

    I've just spent half an hour or so looking at the organization referenced in the above article, the "False Memory Syndrome Foundation" something is definitely fishy about this story & that organization, it seems to me like they were set up to discredit people who have had memories recalled from childhood through hypnosis saying that they are false memories when it could quite easily be that these people have been subjected to trauma based mind control & so wouldn't be able to recall what had happened to them as that person exists as a alter personality within their minds which are trigged at specific times so that they don't remember what has happened to them, unbelievably the organization was set up by a wife & husband who's daughter accused her dad of sexual abuse when she was a child, thats a very strange set up if u ask me, check em out! Another guy who helped set up that organization is also noted as saying pedophilia "is an acceptable expression of God's will for love and unity among human beings", very very strange something here is not quite as it seems.

    • Jas says:

      Thats sick! :p In no way does the Bible condone pedophillia either so that guys using God's name to commit his disgusting works. In fact look up Matthew 18:6. Using God's name to sin is nothing new unfortunately. People fights wars in the name of God but murder is a sin no matter which way you put it. Disgust.

    • Matthew says:

      Alex Constantine exposed the Fales Memory Syndrome Foundation as a hoax created by the CIA to cover up its connections to satanic cults. See this article: http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.com/2009/09

      • in search for justic says:

        I JUST KNEW THE CONNECTION BETWEEN AL MATTHEW AND CONSTANCE TINE!@ i really am not as stupid as you satanic cult members are so trying to make me.

    • Carolyn Meece says:

      Elizabeth Loftus has been a thorn in the side of survivors for a number of decades. She wanted to testify for Libby at his trial and tell jurors how the memory works. US Attorney Patrick Fitsgerald took Elizabeth Loftus to task involving her not so scientific books and inflated figures. I am a survivor of "Soviet-style Psychiatric Terrorism", the controling, corrupt, and abusers refuse to stop their acts of violence, racketeering, money laundering, "False Memory", abuse, etc. They will steal tens of thousands of dollars involving "Ultimate Identity Theft", soul murder, using brainwashing and false positive tests. Even when they have been proven they have lied and violated the law they continue to lie, rage, throw tantrums, illegally demanding that one should stay a hostage for the rest of his/her life. The corrupt psychiatrists, etc. feel they can use false witnesses, predators, abusers, "CRY_WOLF" whenever they get a cob up their arce. Your tax dollars are paying for "Organized Crime", racketeering, money laundering, etc. Psychiatry is full of pseudo-science, mad doctoring, con game, sham, fake healing, etc.

      They defraud records in order to try to make the ends justify the means of stealing the insurance money and entering into extortion. The so-called mental health industry is used to abduct victims/targets/"Victims of Violent Crime" to illeally force-feed the evil psychiatric drugs in order to extract false confessions. What I see is forms of torture are involved because it is that insane. When one suffers from "Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy", Hero Syndrome they can be considered a "Serial Killer" depending on how many people have died. The psychiatrists and a number of so-called mental health works are delusional, psychotic, suffer from a Grandiose Sense of Purpose, etc. The statements they make consist of "Pete & Repeat", and they sound like they have voices in their head and they even answer their own questions. Much of it amounts to "Organized Crime" hostage taking, refusal to allow the hostage to have any real support, lying about what the insurance money or the money they illegally demand is really being used to destroy the life, mind, and soul of the hostage, etc.

      "Soul Murder", Shawshank Redemption and Chicago Way

  14. Lena8423 says:

    I was previously a patient at Castlewood for 8 months and I owe my life to the treatment I received from the entire staff, including Mark. Never once did I feel like memories were being planted in me and although I entered the treatment center very near death I am now fully in recovery. I do not personally know the girl in the story, only Mark and he has one of the kindest hearts of anyone I have ever met.

    • Lena8423 says:

      No it is not. My name is Elena (Lena) and I was a patient for most of 2004. Mark was not my main therapist, Nancy (who is also mentioned in the article) was but he was the director and ran many of the groups I had to go to. I suffered from anorexia from the time I was 6ish on and didn't get treatment until I was 19 and severly severly underweight. I grew up in St. Louis and had a sister in law who had also been a patient at Castlewood which is how I knew about the place.

  15. Kiki says:

    Is that why Amy Winehouse said "NO, NO, NO" when they wanted her to go to rehab. It sounds like a funny comment, but seriously…is that why?

    • Kim says:

      Seriously, this is what I have been wondering as well. Puts that song in a whole new light, once you realize what the word "rehab" is really code for….

  16. CerebralGirl says:

    Sucks because Castlewood Treatment Center looks so beautiful…

  17. Realeyesrealizereall says:

    Ohh it's all just a misunderstanding. They've simply mistaken his credentials. He's not a Therapist, he's the rapist.

  18. Awful says:

    A testimony from a woman on the False Memory Syndrome Foundation website:

    "My husband died last January after having suffered a massive stroke. He and I began to have high blood pressure at about the time of our daughter's accusations. This stress had been going on for several years and we'd both been put on medication for that condition. He was depressed. He sighed and said, "Well I guess there's nothing more I can do." Our daughter had returned his last letter to her unopened, writing on the envelope, "Unacceptable mail; return to sender."

    There is no doubt in my mind that the stress he had suffered from her false accusations was at least partially responsible for his untimely death. He was a vigorous, healthy, sixty-six year old man. Now I am trying to cope with the loss of my dear, loving husband of almost 46 years while, at the same time, struggling to overcome the bitterness I feel toward my daughter and her therapists. The tragedy of this almost overwhelms me. In my opinion, the therapists who are promoting these false memories are guilty of murder.

    A Widow"

    I'm sorry but this is absolutely disgusting. Regardless of if her daughter's claims WERE false or not (and I'm inclined to believe they weren't due to her hideous attitude, typical burying her head in the sand knee-jerk response of wives of abusers), the fact she says she is 'struggling' to overcome her bitterness towards her daughter is inexcusable. If she truly doesn't believe her husband did this, she should be angry with the therapists and the therapists only, not blaming her daughter who a/ she brought into the world and should love unconditionally and b/ has clearly suffered a huge amount of pain and anguish. I understand it must be devastating to lose a husband but SERIOUSLY, how can she not see how much her OWN DAUGHTER has to bear???? I cannot believe the selfishness here.

    I also agree something is clearly bizarre about the FMSF and this story – as someone previously mentioned the therapist should NOT have rung this girl after she persued a case against him and his comment about 'she told me lots of horrible things she'd done' or whatever he said is manipulative and cruel and clearly designed to provoke anxiety in her. That is the problem with therapists who abuse their power – they know exactly how to make their patients tick and what will upset them. As for my concerns about the FMSF – the 'about us' part on their website comes across as really quite strange. The examples of 'typical' letters parents received seem made up and quite odd. Hmmmm. Funnily enough, until I read this article and looked at the FMSF website I actually believed the stories I'd heard about False Memory Syndrome. Funny how an organisation dedicated to raise awareness about it has made me disbelieve it.

  19. Karen says:

    Read The Franklin Coverup and this will all make sense.

  20. I need a new handle says:

    So it seems we have multiple contrasts here in this article.

    What is apparent to me, as has been pointed out by others, is that something triggered the anorexia originally. Now if I am reading this correctly, the therapist is suggesting that suppressed memories of SRA is a strong trigger for the anorexia (or ultimately the cause of it).

    However the patient has been confronted (and no doubt sought resolution) of the issues that caused the anorexia and perhaps has had horrified (for their own safety) family members advise her that its all a sham and to sue.

    Then on the flip side we have multiple persons coming forward saying they were also allegedly sufferers of SRA and they were all treated by the same doctor.

    So the questions asks – which is it? The truth is often a little of column A and a little of column B. Whats more particularly interesting is though – if the therapist had so many girls who were victims of SRA and sexual abuse, when was he going to inform the authorities? And if he didn't inform the authorities, this reduces his credibility on the memories not being implanted. That said, what does he gain (other than financially) to have so many SRA patients at his clinic when there is an obvious risk someone might end up with some backbone?

    There are too many unanswered questions and unaccounted variables for any truth to be correctly eked out of this story.

    • BeenThereDoneThat says:

      Let's remember that this article was published by the controlled "mainstream media," and for that reason alone is suspect.

      It is quite possible that the writer made up the therapist's quotes or seriously edited them to make his statements look incriminating. But as for having a lot of SRA victims in his clinic, well, no surprise there. By it's very nature, the Network creates a lot of victims and many can't ever cope in the real world. The mental hospitals and clinics are treating way more SRA victims than they even know. Alters can take a very long time to finally come out in therapy because trust is something they never knew. A lot of patients never find out what's at the root of their issues. If the SRA finally becomes known, then there's hell to pay for the victim from the family and the "Family," most of whom should also be in the clinic themselves. SRA is a very deep and complex issue, more than what a little piece by ABC News can do justice to.

  21. MontaukGirl says:

    I just had to chime in on this one. The FMF was started by CIA ops with an agenda of cover up. Here is a website with some interesting info on this:
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/s

  22. Sami says:

    This story has a whole lot going on in it. The doc himself made the mistakes of giving confidential information to the reporters. With or with out a lawyer, docs know about confidentiality, and any question asked outside of a courtroom under oath should be answered with a simple, I cannot disclose such info. He does not sound to be a upper teare intelligent doc.

    I am by far no psychologist, my my dear friend is, so I have something now to discuss with him. But, how has repressed memory not been proven? Is not amnesia a form of repressed memory? Are there not examples of mk ultra victims that show us that repressed memory does exist? I mean, even mundanely, one goes to school, later forgets something they have learned. The brain has stored that information as a memory, but cannot access it any longer. It is not repressed due to trauma, but does that in itself not show that it is possible to reawaken long forgotten memories?

    I, like many previous comments, had the gut feeling that, while a bit idiotic, this physician is being set up. The more we read and understand about mk ultra…and the shear abundance of symbolism in pop culture… I recently had during meditation and realization that the compass of this abuse when looked at upon the pop culture must be incomprehensible at this current state of understanding. If the program started in the 50s with so many victims, if only half of those victims progeny were used in the same way, and possible a second generation, that means there could be a great many people who have experienced this abuse and trauma. That would naturally mean that psychiatrists that are unaware (my friend is one of them) of mk ultra have high probability of having these people show up in their offices. They have no idea what they may discover as treatment ensues. If there is a cult in a local area near a doc, then it is even more likely that he or she may have multiple patients at a time who have experienced these things.

    To me, this article is biased. It does not discuss mk ultra at all, it does not even shed light that yes, this is happening on a large scale in the shadows. Instead, a doc that isn't smart enough to keep his mouth shut concerning confidentiality will be used to further the cause of those in the satanist cults. Unless during the trial his lawyer is smart enough to get some statistics together about mk ultra, then any judge and jury is going to see this as the article has reported, he will be stripped of his license and possibly jailed to be made a precedent, and the victims will be even less likely in the future to find real healing from trained individuals. How sad.

  23. Alex says:

    Messing with Our Minds

    CIA mind control experts and accused child abusers- the false memory movement turns blaming the victim into a science

    HUSAYN AL-KURDI

    A quiet but brutal war is being waged on the victims of child abuse, including sexual and even ritual abuse. The battlefields include academia, the courts, professional groups, and society in general. In some cases, the aggressors are the same people accused of perpetuating the violence. They've banded together, forming networks and support groups, most notably the False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF), which discounts recollections of abuse recovered in later years, making survivors look like complainers and trauma therapists sound like quacks.

    Unfortunately, the Foundation has many psychotherapists on the run. Several lawsuits have already ended with judgments in favor of alleged perpetrators, and the resulting chilling effect has dampened the willingness of some mental health professionals to treat victims, especially those claiming ritual abuse.

    If you browse the Internet these days, you're apt to find regional or local groups started by survivors of childhood torture and/or abuse. The list includes the International Council on Cultism and Ritual Trauma, based in Dallas, Texas; Mothers Against Sexual Abuse in Monrovia, California; Survivors and Victims Empowered in Lancaster, Pennsylvania; and the San Francisco-based Survivorship. Meanwhile, researchers such as Alex Constantine, Walter H. Bowart, and Dick Farley conduct valuable research on the FMSF. Despite such scrutiny and the seriousness of the problem, however, advocates for false memory (also known as repressed memory) syndrome dominate cyberspace and have received far more favorable coverage in the mainstream media.

    Ironically, it turns out that the Foundation itself has extensive connections to another group that has indulged in extensive experimentation on human beings – the Central Intelligence Agency. Although better known for overseas operations that serve the interests of corporate and financial elites – euphemistically described as protecting "national security" – the Agency also has a sordid history of domestic mind control experimentation. Its interest in this field runs parallel with elite concern about how to control the thinking of US citizens. The fear among policymakers that we might take control of our own destinies is almost as deep as their terror that, without US intervention, people in other parts of the world might go their own way.

    It should come as no surprise, then, that long-time CIA and "intelligence complex" operatives turn up on the FMSF Advisory Board. Perhaps the most public member has been Dr. Louis Joylon "Jolly" West, a legendary figure in CIA mind control circles operating out of UCLA. Another is Dr. Martin Orne, an authority on torture who currently works at the University of Pennsylvania's Experimental Psychiatry Lab. While studying the effects of over 16 biochemical warfare agents until the early 1970s, Orne considered the effectiveness of choking, blistering, and vomiting agents, toxins, poison gas, and various incapacitating chemicals. During the same period, he also worked with the Cornell University-based Human Ecology Fund, sharing his findings with Dr. Even Cameron, who was then based at the McGill University Allen Institute in Montreal. At Human Ecology, electroshock, lobotomies, drugs, incapacitants, hypnosis, sleep deprivation, and radio control of the brain were all specialties of the house.

    Still another false memory luminary is Margaret Singer, professor emeritus in psychology at the University of California-Berkeley. Long in the research loop of the "military-industrial-intelligence complex," Singer's involvement dates back to her experiments on returning Korean War veterans. Scrutinizing the behavior patterns of what were described as "collaborators," "non-collaborators," and "active resisters," she noted that the "collaborators showed more typical and humanly responsive reactions" than the other groups, whose members "tended to be more apathetic and emotionally barren and withdrawn."

    The latest concoction of this brain trust is false memory syndrome, a highly ideological theory embraced by the Christian Right and other groups that favor male supremacy, not to mention those accused of abusing and/or sexually molesting women and children. Pedophiles and self-righteous "Christians" often turn up in FMS circles.

    The movement's official literature describes its so-called "syndrome" as a "condition in which a person's identity and interpersonal relationships are centered around a memory of traumatic experience which is objectively false but in which the person strangely believes." It goes on to explain that, when in the grip of a "false memory," a person "may become so focused on the memory that he or she may be effectively distracted from coping with the real problems in his or her life." Certainly, the movement's leaders should know, since in the realm of memory manipulation they're the experts.

    Inducing memory loss has long been a CIA obsession. The initial objectives included closing the minds of agents – in case they were captured – and making sure enemies who were interrogated wouldn't remember they'd been questioned. While receiving CIA funds as part of the notorious MK-ULTRA project, West, an expert in brainwashing, learned how to manipulate memories in various subjects – inducing everything from total amnesia to obsessive-compulsive fixations.

    West's most notorious experiment, conducted while at the University of Oklahoma, involved killing an elephant with LSD and tranquilizers. But he also ran a secret CIA mind control lab and "treated" Jack Ruby after his murder of Lee Harvey Oswald. Subsequently, he attempted to launch a Center for the Study and Reduction of Violence in California, hoping to incorporate treatments such as chemical castration, psychosurgery, and the use of experimental drugs. But the Center was derailed once its methods became public.

    According to false memory proponents like West, the "syndrome" – an iatrogenic (medically induced) malady – is reaching epidemic proportions. But in reality, what has actually assumed such dimensions is the problem the FMS movement seeks to discredit – sexual abuse of women and children. According to recent research, more than one out of four women have been raped. Statistics for incest are similar.

    FMS activists crow about inducing those who recall abuse in therapy to recant their "objectively false" recollections. Movement literature perversely claims: "Many describe a sense of relief and comfort with their decision that their memories were false and a sense of well-being that they missed while entrenched in the memory recovery process." Thus, memories of abuse are defined as invalid. But somehow retracted memories aren't.

    According to the false memory movement, many victims are actually "borderline" deviants, the sources of whatever "false" problems they may have conjured up. And how could anyone disagree? After all, as FMSF spokesperson Pamela Freyd explains, "We are a good-looking bunch of people: graying hair, well-dressed, healthy, smiling … about every person who has attended [an FMSF meeting] is a person you would likely find interesting and want to count as a friend."

    Yet, Freyd and her husband Peter founded the movement after their daughter, Jennifer, a Ph.D. psychologist, recalled a range of childhood sexual abuses. Among other memories she recovered was one that involved Peter forcing his little girls to dance around naked with Playboy bunny tails for the amusement of his friends.

    Ralph Underwager, an early member of the group's professional advisory board, let the pedophile agenda slip when he told British reporters that, according to so-called "scientific evidence," 60 percent of all women who were molested as children believed the experience was "good for them." Both he and another advisory board member, Holida Wakefield, have publicly described pedophilia as a positive lifestyle choice. Another movement activist, Dr. Richard Gardner, blames the syndrome on "zealots" who want to "destroy every man in sight."

    Supporters such as Gary Cooper, who promotes the Foundation via the Internet, claim that "modern therapy is creating phony victims of child abuse and destroying thousands of families." He describes most memories of abuse as fantasies provoked by greedy therapists, who encourage their patients "to break relationship with the family and work on these phony issues."

    Thus far, the Foundation claims to have won 14 court cases, largely through the efforts of movement ideologue Elizabeth Loftus, a psychologist and FMSF advisory board member who garners large fees for testifying as an "expert witness." Loftus has appeared on behalf of over 150 clients, most of them accused pedophiles and murderers such as serial killer Ted Bundy. In that case, a key aspect of her testimony was the inaccuracies in eyewitness identification, similar to her criticism of the recollections of abuse victims. But such inaccuracies don't necessarily mean that abuse didn't happen.

    In December 1995, two women filed an ethics complaint with the American Psychological Association (APA) against Loftus, protesting her published statements about two cases involving delayed memories of sexual abuse. Although the APA declined to investigate, Loftus resigned from the association a month later. One of the women who filed the complaint, Jennifer Hoult, was awarded $500,000 for the suffering caused by her father's incestuous abuse. During the case, her father joined the FMSF.

    The movement has been defeated in court more often and more significantly than it cares to admit. Despite its efforts to discredit therapists and blame victims, many people have won civil cases against their parents and other family members on the basis of memories recovered in therapy. In addition, Doctor Charles Whitfield has successfully fought a civil suit brought by the Freyds, who were stung by his commentary on their theories and activities.

    Research has proven that people who suffer severe abuse often "forget" it. In a "fight or flight" mode, the body produces high levels of neurochemicals that can obliterate conscious memory. While at the Allen Institute, Ewen Cameron looked into "psychic driving" as another way to accomplish the same thing.

    Under high stress, the hippocampus becomes inactive and misses its chance to place a memory in the person's timeline or "memory bank." Instead, it's recorded elsewhere or "dissociated." According to Dr. Lenore Terr of the University of California's Medical School in San Francisco, "Survivors – especially those who were repeatedly hurt by people they love – frequently repress the agonizing memories until they are grown up and safely away from home."

    In a very real sense, domestic survivors of CIA experimental abuse have much in common with the millions who have suffered what no child or other human being should have to endure. And this is exactly what worries the false memory movement. Fearing imminent exposure, the CIA was forced to abandon the MK-ULTRA project in the 60s. But the effort to manipulate minds and blame the victims didn't end; it simply moved from public institutions to cults and private foundations, facades less open to public scrutiny. As a result, the Human Ecology Fund has been replaced by groups such as the Human Potential Foundation in Falls Church, Virginia, founded by Sen. Claiborne Pell and lavishly funded by Laurence Rockefeller. In short, the patriarchal old boys network remains intact, just one more aspect of the backlash against women and children.

    To be continued.

    Husayn Al-Kurdi is a TF contributing writer and President of News International

    http://www.voxfux.com/features/mind_control_child

    • fortheloveofgod says:

      Pretty good article. I'd take exception to the hyperbole over patriarchal society and disdain for men in general because that's really not the point of MK Ultra or the broader satanic network. But the other points made are pretty much on target.

      One other thing: A lot of people seem to think that the mind control efforts only began with MK Ultra, Project Artichoke and all, but in reality the ancient occult network has been practicing it for a couple millenia, at least.

      Then along came Hitler's regime. What the network knew for centuries, the Nazis made a science of. They really applied scrupulous study and always recorded their procedures. They also developed a lot of the drugs that assist in the process of dissociating and programming the victims.

      And the CIA is absolutely the creation of the Satanic Network, not, as most believe, the so-called government. Yes, the "government" organizes and funds the CIA, but the CIA does the bidding of the Network only. Never was it a legitimate tool for "national security." But like the Freemasons, there are two faces of the CIA: one where spies are trained, used and paid and who think they really are serving their country; and the second where dissociated mind-controlled victims carry out a multitude of unseen, unknown activities for the handlers, never knowing (or almost never) what they've been put up to, and who are not paid at all.

      MK Ultra and its spin-off projects were carried out by the paid side, the Company. Those involved were probably not consciously aware of the Network or its long-time success with mind control. It was useful to fund the experimentors just to see if they could obtain long-term mind control success with subjects who were already adults. Problem is, you really can't get the same results. You can hypnotise memories into suppression for a while with a normal adult, but they tend to come back rather quickly. They get discovered. But start with an infant, and you can create a complex and elegantly useful slave who will probably never know what happened to them at night or what they've been made to do, ever.

      The powers that be use the resources of the CIA, both faces of it, to undermine everything good and prepare the world for the coming Antichrist. But it didn't just start up in the 50's.

      • Alex says:

        Do you have links or anything I could read about the satanic network, before 1950? Illuminati/satanic network, are they the same? What's your take on the Antichrist? Is he really coming up?

        I read before that it did start long ago before mk-ultra but I don't have much info about it.

        «I’d take exception to the hyperbole over patriarchal society and disdain for men in general because that’s really not the point of MK Ultra or the broader satanic network» I felt the same as you on that matter, but I read it was easier to use mind control on women than men. Same with children, like you pointed out.

      • HER AGAIN says:

        Why would you ' take exception to the hyperbole over patriarchal society and disdain for men'. It's a fair an valid point and one that is many times glossed over. Who is the majority in power, doing this unspeakable evil and facilitating it? The evil that man do indeed.

  24. Homar says:

    The End of Times

  25. anonymouscoward says:

    Get the title Right, Its "The Rapist" not "Therapist".

  26. Oh Vigilant says:

    There's so many things that could be going on here.

    1. Are the patients mad because these things DID happen to them and they're just scared to admit it?

    2. If so, what the heck is going on in that little town down there in Missouri?! Or..

    3. Did the doctor really do it? And why? Is it because if a person thinks they are sad and wounded that they will continue subscribing and paying for expensive psychotherapy, thus unscrupulously making him rich?

    I hope it's none of these as they're all awful, especially the last as I respect the field of psychology as a science of healing and understanding humanity. But something's up. Maybe they're all wrong and the exposure therapy just exposed them to thoughts that scare them and made the doctor think it was memory repression while he accidentally was implanting false memories?

    Speaking of false memories:

    " There’s no credible scientific evidence that the human brain can store “repressed memories,” according to University of California at Irvine professor Elizabeth Loftus"

    I don't think that's true:

    " PTSD " Post-traumatic Stress Disorder. I can think of one very notable and likely verifiable case: Charla Nash. She was famously attacked and disfigured by Travis the chimp, nearly died and claims to have NO MEMORY of it whatsoever. Loftus's opinion is a bit insulting in my opinion to people who really might've blocked horrific things out.

    Another example is dreaming. When you dream everything makes sense, you can have a whole different life backstory in a dream and regardless of how ridiculous it will make sense until you wake up; this is like memory implanting. BUT you can forget details of a dream while you're still dreaming and not remember them until you awaken, or forget all the details about your dream as soon as you wake up. How would Loftus reconcile forgetting with blocking, I wonder. Another thing is ignoring, for example this video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo Would something like this overlap into repression? Yeah, I;m just an amateur, but still.

  27. Circa Horrid says:

    http://www.psychcrimes.com

    So many other stories like this, evil is so hard to confront but some people are sick fucks.

  28. Tesh Turner says:

    It is this"False Memory Syndrome" that is false!

    The False Memory Syndrome Foundation was created and staffed by CIA psychiatrists such as Dr. Martin T. Orne, a founding member of the FMSF and a CIA funded researcher into experimental psychiatry at the Univ. of Penn. Ralph Underwager is the world authority on FMS, and has claimed that most women molested as children said the experience was good for them. The executive directors of the FMSF are Paul and Shirley Eberlie, who ran the tabloid FINGER in the 1970's which delved into S&M, child/adult sex, and sex acts involving excrement. Their daughter has accused them of abusing her as a child. The FMSF was set up as a cover for CIA sponsored mind control experiments outside of the laboratory. It is staffed and led by pedophiles and CIA psychiatrists to discredit victims of SRA as they come forward. The author of much of this material is Alex Constantine. I acknowledge his heroic work and though he is not associated with this production, has inspired me, and it is from him I draw much of the research. Please read his books. The books with supporting info are free at myspace.com/marsboy683

    http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/

  29. Tesh Turner says:

    For those who doubt SRA is real and valid, read Malachi Martin's book (ex Jesuit Priest) "Windswept House" (just read the Preface alone!).

  30. SherifollowsYeshua says:

    The Fslse Memoery Foundation was set up to discredit those who had been victims of mind control and satanic ritual abuse. Istringly suggest you all read the Tranceformation of ASmerica and Thanks for the Memories. Im sure that many of you may have read these books already. There are biographies of women who were CIA Mind Control slaves. It opened my eyes to su many things.

    As for this story, I think its unlikely that the memories were implanted. It's possible that these women's mind control programming had begun to break down and were sent to castle wood for reprogramming or so that they would be discredited. This story seems like a red herring to me.

  31. belezaa says:

    the point is : trust no one!

    • don says:

      NO! the point is: it is the satanists who want you to become unable to trust anyone! it is part of their program to deconstruct and destroy human society.

      don`t let that happen. rather, learn to discern; most people are, in fact, trustworthy!

  32. A.R.C. says:

    funny cuz I read this and thought VC might publish this waddaya know I was right

  33. Jim says:

    Lis Nasseff is on the board of directors for the Boys and Girls Club of the Twin Cities:
    http://www.boysandgirls.org/whoweare/board-member

    She comes from an extremely wealthy and influencial family in the Twin Cites (very politically connected) and her career is related to financing entertainment initiatives (Labyrinth Group). The name of her company indicates alot and what more really needs to be said about her membership on the board of a "troubled youth" organization.

    Those who know what to look for can see that Lisa's memories are real.

    • HarmlessDove says:

      Wow.. very interesting. Thanks for that information, it definitely sounds like she's part of an elite family and its possible this abuse is part of being in an elite family. I just hope she hasnt been "placed" in the high position in the Boys and Girls club to pave the way for easy access to all the "boys and girls" pedophilic, satanic, elites could ever want…

  34. Cdub says:

    AndreaM and Tom:

    I'm pretty sure you guys have the correct version of what is really going on. If you research into the False Memory Syndrome Foundation they have a lot of things that are strangely related to a lot of the topics on this site. Directly on their website they post a number of cases where lawsuits have been filed against psychiatrists who supposedly created these images in the patients minds. I can understand there being a few shitty people who abuse their power but hundreds, maybe thousands? Keep in mind psychiatrists usually take that career path in an effort to help people not harm them. Read the book "Thanks For The Memories … The Truth Has Set Me Free! The Memoirs of Bob Hope's and Henry Kissinger's Mind-Controlled Slave" and you will notice a lot of the things that this women describes as happening to her, (i.e Satanic rituals, pedophilia, witchcraft and producing pornography) are all present in the descriptions given by the patients who are now suing. Like Tom said earlier one of the founders of the FMSF, Peter Freyd was accused by his daughter of sexual abuse. Her testimony alone might not be too persuasive because of the argument that FMS does exist, but were the false memories created in her Grandmother and Uncle who also supported her statement? I highly doubt it.

  35. Dutchgirl says:

    There might be thousands of people walking around, doing their day time job etc. not knowing that they are mind controlled and have undergone trauma based mind control.

    Some of these people might get emotional problems and start to get eating disorders at a later age and and want help. They go to a professional or center and their some of the memories pop up during some therapy sessions. I think this is definately possible and I think that the False Memory Foundation is just a cover up descrediting people.

    VG – cant you dig deeper into this Falso Memory Foundation ?

  36. Frank Stern says:

    I teach people how to use NLP in marketing, but the use of NLP has also been shown effective in therapy. Many people come to NLP therapists and undergo hypnosis and are induced to change through language patterns, so I can understand how a very skilled therapist who is adept at these skills can use them to implant memories in the vulnerable. I however want to throw caution into the wind with this one because in accepting the premise that all people who have memories of ritual abuse have been manipulated by a psychologist we may ignore many who may very well have been subjected to ritualistic abuse and developed multiple personalities as a result. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    • fortheloveofgod says:

      My memories started long before I had the courage and funds to see a shrink. Can't say they were implanted by one. Now I know where some of my scars came from.

  37. AndreaM says:

    Gee, Jack, you talk (write)as if you haven't seen the rest of this website. The rituals are real and they have a function: to drag dark, non corporeal entities into our dimension (6th, as in cube and Star of David) from the one next door (5th,as in pentagrams) and to give them a body to reside in. These demons are implanted in the flesh/brain, and are passed from one person to another via the bodily fluids. That's where the sex comes in, whether it's SRA, popstar whores or ancient "sacred prostitution." you can go on YouTube and see videos of people w/ the damn demons peeking out from behind their eyes, and shape shifting too.

    I was reluctant to believe it at first, too, but all that stuff the "bible thumpers" talk about, about there being a war between the forces of Satan and the whole rest of Creation, is true. It is a war for souls, and ole one eye and his minions seem to think that if they win enough over to their side, by hook or by crook, it will hasten his entry into Our World. I think that's why they always show him floating or what have you, outside or "over" the Earth, he can't abide here just yet.

    So please, keep vigilant, keep doing the research, keep believing in what's Right and Good, because I feel like you all are my fellow soldiers in this Army of Love.

  38. PhiloSophia says:

    This reminds me of what Brice Taylor (who wrote "Thanks for the Memories", google it) explains about what happens to therapists who treat people who have been victims of Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA).

    Therapists will often stop treating victims for fear of being targeted with false accusations designed to have their licenses taken away, or worse, with death.

    Our minds are like computers, in the sense that we store every bit of information received, whether by experiences or by observation. Nothing that resurfaces in dreams or memories come from nothing, they always come from somewhere experienced or observed.

  39. Len Kagamine says:

    Funny thing is, i just finished reading the book Satans Children a few minutes ago.

    (http://www.amazon.com/Satans-Children-Robert-Mayer/dp/0399136274)

    So weird >_<;

    • Nic says:

      Very brave of you to read such books. Somehow I don't believe this kind of condition is treatable unless there is some kind of extraordinary miracle.

  40. Period1 says:

    It has come to my understanding that probably most rehab centers and psych wards is where they are making mind control slaves.

    Just look at Lindsey Lohan or Amy Whineshouse. Clearly, rehab did nothing for them but them worse.

    For starters, never go under hypnosis with out some one you trust there to watch over the situation and probably do a background check on the hypnotist as well.

  41. Period1 says:

    You should probably also have your own therapy sessions taped, just in case any vile programming is done, you will have evidence of it.

  42. degunk says:

    (tried to post this earlier, but to no avail.)

    I remember from reading Tranceformation of America, some broadcast by Fritz Springmeier, and a publication by Cisco Wheeler and her friend that soon after people started talking about SRA and other weird brainwashing mind control experiences they finally remembered or decided to go public about there was a big backlash. Suddenly, there was an organized group of “respected” scientists and psychologists climbing over themselves trying to proof false memory syndromes, and hysterical episodes. Many people who had been very vocal about their experiences were either silenced, or made to look fraudulent and ridiculous (kinda like Herman Cain right now..). There was even some Institute established (false memory institute?) dedicated to showing the asininity of these supposed satanic and mind control claims.

    Some of them WERE frauds. But I suspect there was just enough truth for the other side to launch a counter attack.

    Probably 99.9% of us that read the articles on this site will probably never know for sure if this stuff is actually happening or not. It hasn’t happened to us, we’ve never seen it, and all we here are third and fourth hand stories from people who may or may not be laughing their cans off at our gullibility. (anyone remember that story of a “scientific article” that found the opening to Hell near the north pole? it was reported later that it was a deliberate hoax to make everyone that actually believed in Hell look as stupid as the hoax believed they were.)

    The problem is people REALLY ARE that evil. Hoards of them usually don’t go down that path, but it is ridiculous to believe this could never happen. Junior High (or 11 – 13 year olds for all you non US citizens) is proof that if some one can even think up something stupid, guaranteed, somebody will try to do it. And once done, why wouldn’t people want to cover their tracks?

    • Nic says:

      Your way of thinking feeds a general hopelessness and encourages us to think that regardless of what I do, it's useless. Where's your evidence that most people are really evil?

      The demon possessed people are really evil. The ones who possess no self-control and rational thinking. Most people are actually sensible and can distinguish right from wrong with many bumps along the way.

      • degunk says:

        @Nic

        I was just going to let this go, and let you express your opinion unchallenged, but what you say is a really good point. Too good to go unanswered.

        What do you define as evil?

        That's the real question that you're dealing with here. If you want to categorize it as REALLY BAD stuff on the level of demon possession, that is your right to express an opinion, but it really begs the question. Who has the right to define what is really bad, just a bit bad, and really just a bunch of mistakes? Are you proclaiming yourself the moral arbiter of the good and evil, or just part of the "common consensus?" If so we all need to see your/their resume(s): include all universes created, people formed by fiat, and time space realities developed, plus all relevant mathematics and physics. Plus, if you're using the evolution cosmology, you'll have to be honest here: it's kill or be killed on that basis. If whatever you do that makes you and perhaps your offspring survive, it's "good."

        I'm not picking on you or putting you down. Like I said, that was a really good point, but there is a lot more to it than just to say "you're being depressing and hopeless, because everyone is really a reasonable rationale person except when they aren't and make those tiny mistakes."

        Tiny to who? You've never cried because you got picked on at school? True, the world didn't end, and no it wasn't a nuclear bomb, but did that fact do anything to comfort you at that time? If you've ever been in that situation, it WAS the end of YOUR world. You're really saying that every group of slaves from that mess in America to every other European, African, and Asian nations experiments with it really was a small "bump" in the collective human reasonableness? Maybe to you, if you didn't happened to be the slave being beaten, raped, and exploited at the time. Or how about that tiny mistake of wars? The millions of people dead because a few leaders needed to squabble over some debated resources, that's just one of those "bumps," right? Where's the US fighting now, Afghanistan, general Middle Eastern area? But that's ok, because the US is really just a country run by reasonable people, like George W. Bush, that might make a few mistakes once in awhile., but he's really a good guy. I WISH I could hear the rest of world saying that, but somehow, I don't they'd agree with that one. Hmm, you notice how "tiny little mistakes" are only tiny when they're done by some one you're trying to defend?

        As to hopelessness, that really depends on you. Only YOU can decide how you will feel about anything, not me, nor anyone, nor anything else. But that works both ways. You can believe and be hopeful with all sincerity that cancer can be treated will one spoonful of cough syrup, because after all, cancer is usually "a pretty reasonable disease, most times." You can be hopeful, but you have a 1 in million chance that it will do anything useful.

        That is because in reality, cancer usually kills. Or you can recognize the cancer for the danger it is, and use a more radical treatment. What's the treatment for humans? Would you really listen to me if I told you Jesus Christ? Probably not, no matter how true it was. You'd probably either start complaining that I was "proselytizing" or bring in the big guns of characters assassination via ad hominem attacks. It would be a whole lot easier that listening the real christian message: humans were so seriously screwed up that the only way to cure them was to have GOD die.

        But you ask for facts about why I think humans are so "EVIL." Take a very good look around you, and like I said in the first post, look at the way children treat each other. They literally have not been around long enough to learn the sophisticated ways to harm each other. Yet, often without trying, and before they turn 5 they can inflict some vicious wounds, sometimes even physical. I used to think people "grew up, and grew OUT" of that, but I've been observing enough people for long enough to see that without intervention, they really grow INTO what they started as kids. They do usually become more clever at hiding the obviousness of it, with those pesky laws, and PC fanatics, and all interfering with their getting their way. Later on, they practice the same silliness, but on a much larger scale. Some of us work for bosses that still bully people around. Some women still practice the cattiness of 12 year olds. Politicians still exercise their biting and petty thief skills, just with laws and taxes instead teeth and their own hands. You don't have to take my word; re-read that history book you shelved from high school. Or better yet, go buy a new one that has a specific focus (e.g. The History of Colonization from XXXX -XXXX) It almost doesn't matter which one, they will tell you the same story: Humans in general do not play nicely together. It is an exception when they do, and usually includes some very selfish reasons.

        It's a fun game to say that's only true about the [rich, uh-inner city, exceptional, famous, stars, politicians, etc]. It's not so fun if you realize the [rich, uh-inner city, exceptional, famous, stars, politicians, etc] are only different from you because we get to hear about their misdeeds in the media. What would happen if they put OUR lives on a screen for everyone to see? Or even worse, who would speak out about how WE trivialized them with our "little bumps and mistakes?" (and if there were money involved…..didn't Herman Cain just resign his campaign over some stuff like this??)

        Thanks again, Nic, for bringing this up.

      • Nic says:

        You welcome.

        You might be right and I might be wrong but as it happens we see situations from a different perspective. Probably I am a pathetic person who lives in denial but I refuse to let negative thoughts bring me down or let myself contaminated by negativity.

        Let's accept that we're all separate people in order to feel positive about what we can't change. One way or another most conflicts stem from our need to shape one another according to our values. The world goes from bad to worse, it's too late to save the planet, wars are everywhere, people are savaged by diseases so intelligent people should be gloomy and cynical. Why is that? Being unhappy & having things go wrong is also part of life, however the most important thing is a sense of optimism. People manage to get through life if they think everyone else is in the same situation.

    • AndreaM says:

      To Degunk

      I would ordinarily refrain from injecting myself into another's argument, but I'm a little concerned about your premise that human beings are intrinsically evil, and that goodness is merely a thin veneer imposed on individuals by societal convention. I myself have considered this theory in the past, but I have come to the conclusion that the truth is the Exact Opposite. We are created as an expression of Beauty and Balance (Tiferet) and, despite many thousands of years of the aweful ones messing with our physical, mental and spiritual attributes, we Still are a reflection of our Benevolent Creator.

      It is part of the Ill.'s gameplan to make us think we are bad, we deserve a crappy world, etc., etc. Whoever gives in to such a mentality is letting them win, on a personal level, and making it easier for them to achieve their aims in the grand scheme. They are working really hard to convince us that they've already won. DON'T believe this!

      We Humans are Good, we are Stronger than they are and they will never completely prevail over us. No matter what. Even if they install their NWO, they will still lose. They have done so every time they tried to takeover our world in the ancient days, and they will again.

      • degunk says:

        To Nic and AndreaM: thanks for your responses. It is a nice feeling to have a disagreement minus the flames.

        I don't think you're pathetic Nic.

        I also know that yours and AndreaM's are the majority opinion of human nature. Most people will agree with both of you.

        But like I said earlier, I have reasons why I don't hold it. Like I post earlier, the only way to truly solve a problem it to fully informed on what it actually it. Otherwise the remedy will at best be limited in its effect.

        But as for the elite's opinion, you're probably right about this AndreaM. The probably is, I included EVERYONE (including myself) in this radically evil evaluation: everyone's in the same boat, and there's only one way out. I can guarantee the elites don't see themselves that way (unless they either define "EVIL" as something good, or above what the ordinary folks are).

      • Nic says:

        OK if circumstances/situations in our lives were testing, we've become hardened and we're inclined to take a cynical view of people. Most people may have done some wicked or stupid things, but they're not evil or stupid. We could delve to the root of our anger against others and gradually work out what we need to do about it. Why let one moment or a few mistakes undo us? You can't change others but you can do something to change yourself.

  43. Vanessa says:

    I know everyone has added their two cents to the article, but I have to add mine too. First this women went into therapy because she had an eating disorder. That isn't suspect. A lot of people with eating disorders need therapy. Second the women not only went into therapy once, she went on and off for a couple of months to this doctor. For his excuse he said it was because she needed a follow up. This may be true. I have been in therapy and you can continue off and on when you like. But in most cases when you leave therapy the case is closed (meaning whatever you went into therapy for is now dealt with or exterminated.) Second this women has been speaking about santanic sexual abuse, robberies she participated in, whether she actively participated or stood by. Third when this woman started talking to other women their stories started matching up. In somewhat of their words they said how could we all be in a santanic cult and not even know each other. Third when this story broke out many people in this center and outside of it all reign together to expose this doctor. Forth in his words he felt sad and and hurt because he's being sued. After he found out about the lawsuit he contacted this possible whistle blower. Now I have never been sued or have sued someone, but I do know when you are being sued your lawyer is thinking of your best interest and he/she would most likely tell you to not contact the person who is suing you. This will be used against you. Forth this implanted memory foundation comes to the aid of this woman and says this outbreak of false sexual abuse as burst in the 90's and seems to be poisoning people who alleged they have been abused. Even a university added their two cents saying supposedly there is no way a memory can be repressed. Now to examine, first and foremost we need to consider this story by whom is reporting it. ABC owned by disney, the same company who enchants little girls of fantasy men and are disappointed when they find out it's just a fantasy. Also, disney has a rep for mind control and isn't this what this article is about? Viacom is pushing agendas like disney and owns networks like BET, MTV, VH1, and all the other three letters and numbers television networks and other non three letter and numbers networks. Can we trust disney and viacom knowing their agenda? The same people who promoted Jersey Shore, Hiphop wives, Sweet Sixteen etc. The woman in the center of this controversy was not in the right mental state. Remember she went into the clinic because she was anorexic and needed help. The doctor was the lead doctor to help her with her issues. If this woman had not spoken to other woman in this center could she have or have not seen through his supposed lies. This could be a very reasonable explanation for how all these woman started to interact and see through his lies, what if it were possible that these women were all in a santanic cult but through brutal mind, body, and soul abuse they didn't know each other or they were kept apart? What if for some reason the handlers sought out this specific doctor to help reprogram these women because they were looking down the rabbit hole. What if this doctor stumbled through these women's memory and uncovered what he wasn't suppose to? What if when she left the center and went back to her handlers she spoke too much about her repressed memories or saw through the handlers tricks? What id the reason the doctor kept calling was to help her escape or deal with the trauma her handlers were setting upon her? What if the handlers couldn't reprogram her and decided to jump ship and leave the doctor with the blame? These are all possible and shouldn't be thrown aside because like the saying goes there is he said/she said and the truth. The foundation and it's supporters in my opinion don't qualify to even speak upon repressed memories. In my opinion as a psychology student that such event does happen, but within the right condition. The brain is a strong and fragile organ. The brain is our operator and the information given to it is its dictator. When the brain in going through severe trauma it will shield the body in many ways like in the most exaggerated and promoted form of multiple personalities disorder. The mind literary splits into various personalities to endure and protect the person from the trauma they're going through. One personality can hold information that another personality may not know of. One personality may be a young child, an older male, a virgin, a promiscuous person, and all have distinct images they think that matches that personality. It is like having a group of different people's mind in one. For this foundation to say repressed memories don't exist makes me wonder who is paying them and their supports to say that. This foundation if given the authority may be able to exterminate all alleged accounts of sexual abuse as "crazy" or "made up." If this happens, sexual abuse will be an everyday event and the normal, no justice will be severed the predators. And soon after pedophilia will become justified, crossed generational sex, and who knows what else. The woman in the center of his case said while in therapy she discovered that she was involved in robberies and sexual abuse this may or may not be true. If she was involved in robberies he main personality may not know of this, but her other(s) personalities may know. For the doctor's sake and the woman he may have been reaching out to her for understanding. If the woman doesn't have any tape recordings of what the doctor allegedly said , it's going to be a he said she said. But the most solid factor of this case is the other victims. These people who are coming forth could honestly be telling the truth. Of they could be trying to catch their 15 minutes. Or they could be giving tit or tat, accepting money for damaging the rep of the doctor. This is a recession and people would do a lot for money. All I can say for certain is this whole case is suspicious. From the main woman, the doctor, the victim, the foundation and supports etc.

  44. AndreaM says:

    Degunk,

    I agree with Nic's response to your last entry wholeheartedly. You seem to be in pain from the way the people in your life are treating you. I am so sorry that you are dealing with negative people, esp. if those people are the ones who are supposed to love, protect and cherish you. We may not all be victims of SRA but each of us have to work through our family's history and dysfunctions. It IS a test, a choice, for you, not just of your strength or will, but it's a challenge to see if you can break those chains of dysfunction, and let them be an example for you of how Not to be.

    You've found this site, so your eyes are already opened to the true dynamics of our world, which is, everyone here can attest, one of the most overwhelming and depressing things a human can possibly learn. But i say again, you have a choice. You can walk around in a cloud of hopelessness and defeat, or you can say "No" and decide that your soul is worth fighting for. The greatest treasure God ever gave us humans is eachother, and i refuse to give up on you.

    As for your statement that we "are all in the same boat, and there's only one way out," i also take issue with this. If and when the s**t hits the fan, everyone of us who sees the evil for what it is, is going to be so much better off than the rest of humanity. Not only will we be able to fend off the soul-stealers, we will be able to help others to do so.

    Everyone: I know it's hard to convince people- i can't even get my own husband to take off the blinders. But that doesn't mean i'll ever stop trying. Just because they don't want to see, now, pretty soon they won't have a choice. And each of us knows how difficult it will be for our loved ones to start down this Narrow path, so it's a good thing we've got a headstart.

    i'm kinda new at this religion stuff, but i can offer a place to start: it's a prayer called "The Armor of God", and it's a pretty powerful weopon of defense against those feelings, people or entities that would do you harm. i don't have it memorized or anything, but i found it online and wrote it on a slip of paper to carry w/me. Cheezy, but it works.

    Peace, y'all

    A

  45. Amy Johansen says:

    Because I come from an abusive past (I suffered physical, sexual, emotional, and verbal abuse from various ppl in my life), I can vouch that implanting false memories is NOT hard to do when you have problems with disassociation, which I do, so much so, if I even have a hard time going to church or things like that b/c of a very controlling prayer group I used to be a part of. If I hear certain words, I get "triggered" and become a completely different person. I went to a counselor for a while, but stopped, she was fine though, wasn't manipulative, but she just wasn't helping much, I ended up being counseled by a friend instead, who held me accountable b/c I was anorexic and cut myself, etc.

    I think, if you have been hurt or tortured, its hard to understand how easily someone with a fractured mind can be influenced. Sometimes, the things my husband says, I shouldn't believe, but I do, and he' like "Amy, that's not real, I can't believe you thought it was." But after I've been reading about Monarch Programming more and more, I'm realizing, I was programmed to believe and trust ppl on certain things without question, some things I do question, but some things, usually the most ridiculous ones, I believe without question.

    So, its not hard for me to believe this could happen to women, especially those who are vulnerable and need help, sometimes those in power abuse it because they like exerting their power to control others, sadly.

    God Bless ~Amy

  46. Amy Johansen says:

    PS: Also wanted to say, one of my good friend's father was a Satanist and involved in Satanist cults, not the atheist satanist, who say they only use Satan as a symbol and do not believe in him (and I am hard pressed to believe they actually don't believe in him), but one who worshipped satan and performed rituals, she and her family were pretty messed up for a while b/c of it, so these things definitely exist, and I have seen demonic influence, and have, at one point, myself, invited Satan to possess, not my shining moment, and it had dire consequences, obviously. Anyone who denies satan exist is living in denial, and I also had a friend who was a Satan worshipper, and he did it because it was "fun", but he did eventually leave it behind and turn to Christ instead. So, I've seen a lot of things first hand, probably more than most. While I haven't seen mind control experiments, I know how abuse can break you down so you are susceptable to mind control, and b/c I have a severe dairy allergy that if I even touch it creates sem-psychotic episodes that are drug-like, and I can see how drugs play a hand in mind control in that way, as during those times, I'd believe almost anything and do some very bizarre and uncharacteristicly weird shit.

  47. C says:

    One of the reasons skeptics state for not believing ritual abuse survivors is certain therapists seem to be getting a very suspicious number of cases! They have a great article about it at religioustolerance.org One of the reasons i am so interested is I have strange memories and I don't know if they are real. I don't like mental health professionals and won't go to one, and they definitely have nothing to do with my memories!

  48. C says:

    There are actually documented cases of repressed memory where survivors of crimes were brought into the ER and when they grew up they didn't remember the abuse/trauma even though they were hospitalized for it. They also didn't remember being in the ER.(this is when they were adults they didn't remember but the hospital had records of them being there!!) As a person with a little experience with this–that(being in the ER) is what I call a linking memory. You forget some events so you can forget others. You could forget your arm was ever broken rather then remembering your mom broke it. You can also make up a whole false story as to how your arm really broke and you can believe that false story you made up!! The mind is just mad incredible.

  49. stargarnet says:

    Well, how can you find out if you have been abused and just don't remember it? There are a lot of things in my life that I now wonder about, so how would I go about finding out? I swear sometimes I feel like my husband is my handler….it's scary and I just need to find out! Any suggestions?

  50. Unnamed says:

    "…persuaded and convinced [Nasseff] to become increasingly isolated from her family and friends…"

    Sounds alot like how Michael Jackson led his life before he died, according to Latoya Jackson;

    "'they' keep everyone at bay, 'they' keep everyone away…by controlling everything…there were no phones allowed in the house."

    Coincidence? i think not.

  51. Roxanne Stewart says:

    I think this is just an illustration of how corrupted the justice system is, and how infiltrated it is with powerful people associated with the occult elite. I know of judges even in the supreme court and court of appeals who are members of the Bohemian and Belizian Groves. Does it ever occur to people how persons on the other side of the line may be benefiting from having accusations of abuse made about them being discarded as implanted memories?

    I mean, if a parent was repeatedly sexually abusing their child and engaging them in satanic ritual killings, do they think they wouldn't try to invent some reasons why these revelations are false.

    Some people just need to stop and think a little bit about who is benefiting more from this. Sheeple!

  52. Russ says:

    This sounds remarkably similar to my daughter's situation, which has been a nightmare for our family and that is ongoing. My daughter went to the CA branch of Mercy Ministries, a free residential Christian-based treatment program in CA, back in March of 2010 and was there for one year before "graduating". After seeing a therapist there, the therapist/counselor called to tell my wife and I not to worry, that this didn't involve any of my family, but that my daughter had "recovered memories" of being sexually abused by some schoolmates. We were shocked and dismayed, but after reading up on "recovered memory therapy" we were skeptical that this really happened. A couple of months later, my daughter changed therapists and suddenly stopped/refused all contact with us. We came to find out that at her "graduation ceremony" from Mercy Ministries, she said that her dad sexually abused her since she was 4, and that she was the caregiver for her youngest sister since she was 8(both utterly false and without basis). Mercy Ministries has chosen a "new family" for her which she is living with now, and we have since been in contact with several girls from Mercy who say they cut ties to their family because of their repressed memories through the therapy they received…both girls (and some others) now realize that one of it was true and they are now in therapy at a reputable therapist to try to undo the damage from the therapy they received at Mercy Ministries. This kind of therapy destroys families, and I would advise anyone who sends their daughter to a treatment center for eating disorders (or any other kind of therapist for that matter) to make sure before they go what kind of therapy they will undergo. My daughter will be welcomed back with open arms when she does eventually realize that she is a victim of bad therapy. I hope noone else has to go through this, and I want to get the word out about how at least this place (Mercy Ministries) operates.

  53. drew kul breez says:

    Funny………it sounds like they were brainwashed into thinking they were brainwashed….I mean why would you brainwash someone into having horrific memories? I am thinking the memories were surfacing and they were brainwashed into thinking they were brainwashed to make the memories seem completely false. It just seems like a lot of trouble to go through for what? But hey, these types get off on knowing they make someones life hell, so who knows. Just a theory.