Time Magazine recently published an interesting article on Ray Kurzweil, probably the most vocal promoter of transhumanism. Here’s an excerpt:
“Take the question of whether computers can replicate the biochemical complexity of an organic brain. Kurzweil yields no ground there whatsoever. He does not see any fundamental difference between flesh and silicon that would prevent the latter from thinking. He defies biologists to come up with a neurological mechanism that could not be modeled or at least matched in power and flexibility by software running on a computer. He refuses to fall on his knees before the mystery of the human brain. “Generally speaking,” he says, “the core of a disagreement I’ll have with a critic is, they’ll say, Oh, Kurzweil is underestimating the complexity of reverse-engineering of the human brain or the complexity of biology. But I don’t believe I’m underestimating the challenge. I think they’re underestimating the power of exponential growth.”
Human life is complex and unique in and of itself. I don't want to be wired to a computer, even if it is to prolong my life or whatever the reason is for these scientists and researchers to continue to pursue transhumanistic ideals. If it's that serious, we should just learn to master our own bodies. Is the purpose only to recreate the complexities of human biology? I, admittedly, don't know enough about it.
Transhumanism is exactly what it sounds like — the idea of transcending our limits as a species through technology.
It shows in many forms, including the idea of extending what we as humans are capable of through cybernetics, the concept of analyzing and replicating the human mind in software, etc, etc, etc. More or less anything that involves casting off a limit we as a species endure (whether that's trying to get around death itself or merely trying to wire cameras into our central nervous system so that we can see behind us/in infrared/despite being born blind/whatever) by applying some kind of technology is *technically* transhumanism.
A lot of people talking about transhumanism will refer to the concept of the Singularity, that being the point at which computers are sufficiently advanced that they are capable of designing and improving upon themselves. This inevitably leads to human-level intelligence (if such isn't a prerequisite for being there already), which in turn leads to superhuman intelligence. This being called the "singularity" because, much like the event horizon of a black hole, it represents a point of no return, a line that once crossed changes society, culture, possibly even what it means to be human.
That said, it's generally a pretty scary concept if you think it all the way out, and is something a lot of people are very afraid of, fearing that either this is an example of messing with God's creation in a way that's inherently wrong (see the same issue being shown regarding genetic engineering, where apparently if we selectively breed things for thousands of generations until they no longer resemble anything that exists in the wild but are rather sculpted by mankind to serve our needs that's OK, but any direct manipulation of what a creature is is playing God and wrong), they'll be "implanted" with some kind of technology that will take over their mind, or that this kind of application of technology will make us "less than human" by making us "more than human".
Yeah ur right. It's kind of like those prophetic movies like I Am Legend where there's is cure for cancer that people start to take & it works for a little while then people becom some animalistic being or I Robot where robots begin to take on humanistic characteristics. Anything we have questions about are right in front of our faces. I watched this one cartoon movie that just came out where this guy worked in this secret lab & he had to have his eye, tongue, butt, and some other stuff scanned just to get in. Humans, in the media, lately have been linked to anything other than being human. This is why I will not take any other vaccines that or out there on the market to cure the latetest "designer disease" or allow microchips to be implanted in me for any reason. I'll die like I was born, human…
@ Erinn…..
Funny you should say this,
" Humans, in the media, lately have been linked to anything other than being human".
Ray Kurzweil's last name translates into "short wave"
Go figure
Right. plus computers crash all the time…we're screwed either way lol
REVELATION 13: 11)And I beheld another BEAST coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12)And he exerciseth all the power of the first BEAST before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first BEAST, whose deadly wound was healed. 13)And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14)And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the BEAST; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an IMAGE TO THE BEAST, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15)And he had power to give life unto the image of the BEAST, that the image of the BEAST should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the BEASTshould be killed. (A CYBORG REPLICA OF THE FUTURE ANTICHRIST-BEAST DICTATOR WHOM THE WORLD MUST BE FORCED TO WORSHIP?)
I defy this guy Ray Kurzweil to come up with a robot that matches the simplest organism out there, this guy is so ignorant it hurts !
Uh… I'd like to see your scientific credentials.
thank you, oakbear.
Is anyone else tired of all the Scripture that gets quoted here? I mean, get over it, this "God" is unprovable and quite frankly ridiculous. The existence of the Illuminati does not prove the existence of Satan, God or any other deities anyone wants to dream up.
I have always understood that people who believe in God,Satin and any other cause are passionate and willing to fight for it , but i never understood the ones who just show up and discuss about "nothing" they only talk about how other people are ridiculous in believing in God Why such people are angry and passionate !!! c'mon if u fight for nothing then its not worth getting angry over it …Remember your role in any discussion about God is to say the usual word "God doesn't doesn't exist" so just relax back and cool down .
Hail Satin! I totally love that fabric! It's so shiny and pretty!
Oh, you meant Satan? Nevermind… XD
Actually, you cannot prove the lack of existence. Sometimes the scripture quoting is tiring, but it is a whole other thing to dismiss it and start an argument saying that He is an imaginary friend, does not exist, or otherwise. I don't argue with those I think are crazy- like if someone came to me and swore up and down about the existence of the Easter Bunny… there is just nothing to say… Just move on. I think people get so upset because it strikes a chord internally. If it makes you angry that people believe in God (Yaweh) or other gods (there are thousands upon thousands), then maybe you should try to figure out why it makes you so angry. If you (not you specifically, but "you" in a general sense) don't want a theological discussion on the board, don't contribute to one. Just my two sense… Attack if you wish.
Oops… Cents
So true, it is formally impossible to prove that something does not exist, unless you can formally prove that some prerequisite for it's existence is invalid, or that something that would necessarily be caused by it does not occur. Hence, it is explicitly formally impossible to disprove the existence of most deities, if for no other reason than because it is impossible to *test* their existence, as all possible results can be interpreted as "proof" of the existence of said deity.
That is simultaneously not to say that the previous "proves" the existence of a given deity either, because the problem is one of moving goalposts — a given result can be claimed as "proof" of a given god, while the lack of that result, or even precisely the opposite result can also be claimed as "proof" of a given god.
It makes the existence of most given deities, or the actual will thereof what we call "unfalsifiable" — that is to say that no given proposition about them can ever be proven wrong, because any result of any test can be claimed to be "proof", as can the absence or opposite of any given result.
Tooootally agree with you there, Trent. So many people here just appeal to God or religion when trying to propose an argument and it makes it impossible to talk any sense with them because their premise is based on something unprovable.
All religions (God or Gods) are theoretical and based on having FAITH. Having FAITH is not resting on logical proof or material evidence. Therefore if you have FAITH then you are putting your beliefs in something that cannot be proven. If you knew beyond any shadow of a doubt that there is a God then there would be no need for FAITH because there would be empirical evidence that God is real. Since it is impossible to prove a negative ALL religions MUST be based on FAITH because it cannot be proven that there is a God.
What would said proof look like? I wonder… A giant hand reaching out of the sky? I have heard of some people describing that… Miraculous happenings? Unexplainable phenomena? Those happen all the time… Feeling invisible presences and forces? You don't necessarily have to believe in God or a god to be convinced of the unseen world. Does He have to have a physical human body and an address? What exactly are people looking for?
You don't have to worry about what the proof would look like because there can't be any proof of something that doesn't exist. Nothing that is real can't be explained. Anything that is real has some kind of physical manifestation because we live in a physical universe. Even what some people call "spiritual" has to have some kind of physicality in order to exist.
"Even what some people call “spiritual” has to have some kind of physicality in order to exist."
It does? Do you mean tangible through our 5 senses? Or including the 6th? Define "spiritual" and "physicality." What of those who have experienced a physical manifestation of a spirit/Spirit they ID as a god/God? Are you agnostic or atheist? Or neither? Are you an "I believe in angels and demons but not a sovereign being" type? Just curious… And you listed a criteria for what you look for, BTW.
That's the problem right there, that these people are basing their lives on faith. That's a pretty massive gamble if you ask me. Why not live a good and just life because it's the right thing to do? And why not help yourself when it comes to things like this instead of waiting for Christ to come around again or something because I have a feeling that's probably not going to happen. Having faith in God isn't going to change the way outside forces affect your life; you are the one that does that.
@Brendan
You are so very right!!
That's true… but doesn't validate or invalidate objective realities on either side. "Goodness" and "badness" are relative. It would be one thing if faith alone is the requirement for proof for some. It wasn't enough for me in my agnostic and unsure days.
What some people call spirituality can't really exist because it doesn't have any physical manifestation. Spirituality is simply a human emotion. And like all emotions it is entirely within one's own mind.
"What of those who have experienced a physical manifestation of a spirit/Spirit they ID as a god/God?"
They have simply misidentified what they experienced. The physical manifestation they experienced was obviously a manifestation of something else, not God. There cannot be any physical manifestation or proof of something that does not exist. They need to get their emotions under control and not let their emotions control them.
Believe in whatever works for you. I'm not trying to convert anyone. Just trying to get them to use a little logic as opposed to using only emotions.
Faith is a poor substitute for logic and reason.
I see.
Thank you for answering and not being nasty.
See, the fact that they believe in god doesn't bother me, its the fact that they follow religion. Religion is pure alienation and brainwashing. If you believe in a higher power, fine, but just follow by a simple code. Do unto others what you want done unto you. If god has any other rule to follow than he is a hypocrite and is imperfect. I am personally an Agnostic. I can't deny there is little evidence for religion but I am not going to walk away from god if he is there, I would need more information. I won't accept a god if he is a cruel person or alienates people, I would rather rest with the devil.
@ trent
yes, i agree i am very very tired of this quotes…. i am voting for a religion-free VC !
What the hell is this Ghost In the Shell or something let's remain normal before something goes wrong.
It's a anime from the 90's, its actually quite good.
Obviously, eventually our nature would discover most secrets of the human brain, however, that still seems very far to our current knowledge.
In my opinion, I don't want to live when this time comes, because it would be like deciding if you want to be god or not.
That is a huge dilemma.
A few years ago when I was at my brainwashing center (aka business school) my prof showed us an interview with kurzweil discussing singularity. He was presented to us as one of the brightest minds of our time – a quick summary of all of his correct 'predictions' had me and my class easily convinced.
Now i realize ppl like kurzweil or stephen hawking, are nothing more than intellectual peoples champions for the illuminati.
It's all PREDICTIVE PROGRAMMING.
MP
What on Earth makes you think Stephen Hawking is part of the Illuminati? Because he is advancing science instead of religion? Or is the Illuminati the new Satan; when there's something that challenges the narrow Christian worldview it's Satan (or Illuminati now)?
2012 may be an unnecessarily bad year thanks to predictive programming.
Respect MP – for seeing through the Eloquence and Grammar for what Kurzwell and his cohorts truly stand for – control. Control of resources (tick), control of the masses (tick), control of the individual mind (not yet and as far as I or any other logical mind is concerned not impossible).
A programme by its very nature can only ever be predictive – theories do not prove anything; Quantum Mechanics is a theory about bending time and has been around for a while but that doesn't mean we can travel through time any time soon (pardon the pun)
So please stop being blinded by these individuals who think they have the world sussed when in reality all we have to do is scratch the surface and the whole argument collapses into itself
Peace
Creeeepy
That makes me very sad.
If you've read VC's article on The Black Eyed Peas 'IMMA BE' video, it is very disturbing how they want to turn everyone into 'robots' so that we will not have a mind of our own and we can be easily controlled…They called it the Bee Hive State or something. They want us to work like a bee hive does and pretty much work as slaves for them…
I saw something on tv about them coming up with computers that can read your mind so that impaired people could just think about what they wanted to do or say and the computer would read their mind and do it or say it for them…it looked like a good way to help people but after reading that article I realized that that's the way they introduce new things and make them seem ok…they want us to be ok with this idea so they present it as helpful to the impaired when really it's only the start of introducing this mind control to the world! CRAZY!!!
Yeah, that's a good one LOL
Actually Imma Bee is LVB's article. He just did another one on transhumism based off the movie RepoMen:
http://lvb-research.blogspot.com/2011_01_01_archi…
***Transhumanism**** frenzy typing
I have one thing to say and that is this: nature should never be improved upon. I don't want to live forever in an artificial 'shell', I want to be free and *alive*. That's not living, its barely existing.
my interpretation: Man playing God
perfection can't be improved upon, but they won't stop trying to re-create creation
This stuff is just crazy and disturbing. How can machines with their artificial intelligence overcome human intelligence when they require humans to design and build them.
After reding the full article you'll get a glimpse of how complex and crazy all this really is.
How are these machines going to bring immortality to humans when humans with all their intelligence and technology cannot create life or bring the dead back to life or cure all those terrible diseases in the world let alone build machines to make us last forever!
The people who have come up with these plans have already sold their souls so they're not doing much *living* as it is… They think they can outsmart God or even become God and play with the lives that he has created because they too have been manipultated and decived…
The root of all of this is evil…The devil knows what they are after (money, power, and control) and he is willing to give them all of this in exchange for their soul because he is at war with God and wants to turn God's people away from him…
God gave us common sense and free will, don't let the devil take that away from you!
well said
they are obviously trying to take on the role of god or a superior creator and in doing so are serving the devil and following his instruction.
Good will always prevail evil, they won't ever be able to pull this off.
Wow.
Just, wow.
I bet by 2075, this will be MANDATED for some stupid reason, which the people will feed into, agree with, and ultimately regret in the long run.
Humans being robots?
This is unethical and goes against everything i for one, believe in.
I feel sorry for the future, if this is what we have to look forward to.
i dont believe theres any way a human can function thru a machine, unless its like on life support but any other way i just dont think its possible.
the goal here is to get the machine to function through the human. nanotechnology, anyone?
I'm mixed about this.
I would like to be wired to a computer, but I am a major tech geek.
But on the other hand, if the government is running all the computers…
So you wouldn't mind some stranger to be in control of everything you do at any given time?
Good luck with that.
How much in control are we now? Most people are born with some type of talent, but they don't use it. Most people work for someone one else. Most people conform to societal 'norms'. Most people don't even date outside of their race because it's been taught from birth that it's wrong. Unless you own your own property, your own business, and you are truly comfortable with being yourself — someone is controlling you.
@Danielle – I couldnt disagree with you anymore than i already do.
There is a difference between normalcy, and transhuminization.
Yeah you have a boss at your workplace, but you can quit whenever you wanted to if need be. Its your choice.
People with talent like you said, CHOOSE not to use it.
People make the DECISION to change, whether they conform, or rebel.
Racism is not something you are born with, like you mentioned, it is TAUGHT, in which whomever taught it, CHOSE to do so.
If you're renting a home and want to own instead, you can save money and make progress toward owning your own land. Its your call. YOU are still you're own person. People can influence you as heavily as they are capable of, but NO ONE can MAKE you do anything. Once you're wired to a machine, you lose that luxury. You're now in the hands or even the PROPERTY of the machine's handler.
We are talking about giving up your entire free will. Giving up being able to make your own decisions. Giving up the ability to think for yourself. If you're wired to a computer, that person in charge of it, can MAKE you do ANYTHING they want you to do. You have no power over your own body. Can you imagine that?
Yeah, they say that transhumanism is there to scientifically improve the quality of the human life, but how could you put all your trust into a complete stranger?
You're not seriously saying that living a somewhat controlled, but still normal life is the same as being wired to a computer, loosing all control of your own body are you?
Besides i doubt the common people will be able to afford this intelligence right away.
It'll probably linger around the rich, making sure the common man envies and desires it enough, then let it become inexpensive and have majority of the population fall into their trap.
You made a very valid point and it is well taken. But consider this. As we speak, humans don't control Wall Street, algorithms do. Who devised algorithms? Humans did. If the humans who created this technology can't control it, what makes you think that they will be able to control transhumans or posthumans as well? It's all speculation. No one really knows what would happen. Instead of fearing the worst, look for opportunity in a seemingly adverse situation. If everyone were half robots/half humans – would there be less crime? Hopefully. Technology will always evolve and humans will evolve right with it.
I understand that the pros of this technology must be taken into consideration, but the risks must be acknowledge as well.
It all goes back to one thing, and that is putting your complete and total trust in someone you dont even know, in a higher class, that is capable of things we cant imagine. Both good and bad.
Even if the thing held responsible for this is man, or machine.
When you put yourself in the position of being wired to this kind of advanced technology you put yourself and your free will at risk. I cant imagine how vulnerable you'd be. One thing i have learned from this site is to always question what one has told you as being the right thing to do, and ultimately think for yourself. So i can't help but to be skeptical.
Yes technology has caused great improvement in our everyday life but with those luxuries has come conflict.
Today we can connect to the entire world through our computers, receiving information that is both great, and harmful.
I can't help but to think that being able to do all this trough your brain with the help of a computer isn't healthy at all, and no man or animal should ever be hooked onto a computer, or instrument, smarter than he.
Yes man has made algorithms, but only because one is not able to to solve and calculate equations as fast as a machine can, thus making something smarter than he can ever hope to be. However, algorithms is most closely related to a calculator, not a human brain. What i mean by this is that Algorithms cant make split decisions, hold grudges, desire revenge, or feel love.
Making a machine exactly like a human or hooked up to human, with unlimited access to man's brain is dangerous in my opinion.
Yes, i would love full access to my own brain, rather than using only 10 percent, but if that meant giving a machine access to it too, i'll pass. Besides, we already have enough evil in this world, imagine what would happen if the crude and mischievous had FULL access to using their brain.
Then again, imagine what could happen if the good and whole hearted had full access to their brains as well. Like you said, no one really knows for sure what will take place.
Your opinion is much appreciated, but only time will tell.
2045? This is in my lifetime, but i doubt this would be complete by that date and time. However, this does give me the jitters.
This is disturbing, but let's look at the entire picture.
Who can afford this bio-technological bs? The rich.
What is the goal of transhumanism? To escape death and increase intelligence.
I'm not afraid to die, so this technology is something that I'm not interested in whatsoever. Besides, I'm not rich and couldn't afford it anyways, which isn't going to make me cry myself to sleep either. Death is a natural cycle of life. People have pondered for ages about what happens after one dies. This technology would eliminate experiencing this altogether if something, or possibly nothing, exists on the other side. What if death is a graduation? The ability for the soul to escape the material world. This would be an amazing experience and something to look forward to when it is your time to leave your body. If one never reaches this level, aren't they cheating themselves out of achieving the highest possible level of enlightenment?
This would seem to be the case – unless… they're terrified of death.
Why would they be terrified of death? Because they know that they have traded their souls for heaven on earth and their afterlife is going to be a nightmare. One story in particular is of Robert Johnson. It's rumored that he sold his soul for Rock 'n Roll and before he died he was on all fours barking like a dog. Here's a link to his story: http://www.loyno.edu/~history/journal/1999-2000/C…
Some say he may have been poisoned, but we can only speculate on the cause of his death and why he was acting this way directly before he died. Nobody can say for sure one way or the other.
In my opinion, those of us who lead honest lives and don't worship material assets don't have anything to fear when it's our time to go. It's the ones who want it all no matter the price that should be scared. Afterall, you can't take it with you. An old Chinese proverb states: He who knows enough is enough will always have enough.
Tom Horn and his crew are all over this stuff and much, much more!! Utterly fascinating stuff! Check it out at:
http://www.raidersnewsnetwork.com/
I have a feeling this will all have much more to do with being controlled by humans through computers so that there is an enslavement going on. Much like the creating of the orcs in Lord of the Rings-
Inspired by satan, carried out by his followers to create an army of controllable beings.
Of course it will be sold and is already being sold as a way to improve our lives- as usual enslavement will be packaged as freedom.
This story (in Time mag) was so long and rambling it almost bored me to death.
As a senior network engineer of almost 20 years, I can assure you all that it will never work the way they planned or least what they're claiming in that article for mass consumption. The main reason is because people such as myself, get paid the big bucks to fix technology that is always breaking down! LOL! Seriously, the famous words at a meltdown is always " but it's supposed to work!" SMH
I can tell you that those transistors, resistors and chips will experience wear and tear like everything else on this planet. All forms of matter deteriorate. There are so many unknown factors that can go wrong at anytime especially because the tech frontier is so new, especially to them. It's just more fear mongering at it's best. Trying to condition people into acceptance. If their plot wasn't so diabolical it would be laughable. They will never top the Almighty. Mimic yes. Out do? Never.
I like you. Such good sense. Why can't there be more people in this world with good sense?
Thank you Ashlee. I mean really, there's no need to be afraid of any technology. Just do something simple like throw water on any of it. LOL! Worrying about a gps on your phone? Drop that sucker in the toilet and then what? Or better yet turn off the air conditioner in a data center and watch what happens. You'll hear more alarms than on 9/11. Or how about this just let the electric company lose power to one of those rooms. I don't care how many back up power supplies there are they cannot last forever. Full blown 3 mile island meltdown!
A computer needs a power source. Where is a half human-half computer supposed to get power from hmmm???? What is it going to do plug it's own ass into a wall outlet? I'm joking around in a way about the plug in obviously but on the real some of those so called scientists and the bank rollers have egos and God complexes beyond control. They really have too much time and too much money. They need to go and sit down somewhere with all of these shenanigans. I'll keep praying and staying with the true Creator!
I want you all listen to me very carefully……if stupid humans goes the way of this disturbing choice to became one with the machine, the elites or someone who do not have a machine inside will "hack" into your mainframe and CONTROL everything you have: feeling, moral choices, and many others.
This is exactly what the elites want, a puppet, A TRUE PUPPET MASTER
If the sun release CME, do you really think we half-human and half-machine are immune to CME?
or even EMP?
Think about it…..people will be hacked and control just as easily and this is exactly what God, our creator is AGAINST IT!!!!
@Noah
Great idea regarding the CME! I applaude you for thinking about this fact and how it will affect those who have chosen the transhumanist route. What would the elite do if they knew one was approaching? Would they "shut down" everyone as a precaution to minimize damage, or would they wait and see who malfunctioned? This is quite an interesting concept. We may get a glimpse into your theory when those who have chips implanted already find out how the technology reacts in the event of a CME.
what is CME?
It a burst of energy from the sun, read about it in wiki SUN'S CME
I hear you Noah and thank you for sharing with us about the CME phenomenon.
Taking it a step further, I'm betting they (the puppeteers) will all turn on each other before they succeed. There's never honor among thieves or devils.
Fuck you, Kurzweil. Fuck you and your nazi super-science!
Oh man, this is right out of 'Doctor Who.' Cybermen, anyone?
What is this world coming to? I read the news and see/read the disturbing transition of good is evil and evil is good. I read about freedom but really am reading the NWO taking place as if its some chess game. How doesn't many many more people see this! Wow. Great site. and also the comments, too. for sure this place is being monitored, honestly I am not ashamed of knowing the truth as well seeking. Enjoy.
Thanks Folks and organite
Yeah all this goes against my belief in the Creator in so many ways….although the flesh in me would like to be able to live long enough to see it happen and some of the positive outcomes that could be possible. That is selfish man in the flesh reasoning though when it all boils down….makes me no better than Adam listening to Eve who listened to Lucifer tell her that when she ate of the fruit she would not die but would be filled with knowledge of good and evil and therefore would be like God herself…..it will all just backfire in the long run. I especially fear the idea of AI becoming a greater intelligence than us and can only imagine a Terminator/Matrix scenario being the inevitability.
I hope God doesn't allow us to keep on with this mess long enough to see it played out….sometimes I feel as though His coming is very near, yet sometimes I get the creepy feeling that its not & we will see a lot more crazy things long before he intervenes! Its scary and exciting both at the same time but I guess that's how it works when you don't know whats going to happen. I'm just gonna count on God returning eventually and try to stay grounded in His word that hasn't failed for the last couple thousand years!
@NewCreation:
Evil doers footsteps are just rushing to their own destruction.
If you're not wicked you have nothing to fear.
Remember fear is a sin. If you are fearful then where is your confidence in the creator?
The word to meditate on is TRUST.
Proverbs 9:10: The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
Proverbs 15:33: The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.
Job 28:28: And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the LORD, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.
Not fear, but what to fear.
Yup! I dont fear the evil that men do nor satans schemes…I only sometimes fear that I may have not done enough to please the Lord and that as much as I try to be righteous my sin still creeps back every now n then and so I repent as often as possible because of my fear of HIM….its a fear based on an awesome respect cuz when I think of, dream of and imagine our Creator coming it is very humbling and makes me feel like a worthless nothing in comparison! That day when all will bow down is approaching and will be a marvelous sight to all and I feel pity for those who ignore the warning and even more for those who dare mock HIM for they will truly experience fear on that day!
@NewCreation: I am in total agreement with you. I was just trying to send encouraging words. I feel the same as you, I just want to be found worthy.
@ Godozo : I appreciate the scriptures and you do have a point but that is not the context of which I was referring. Here's the scripture and context I was thinking of:
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable , and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Not to start a debate of biblical proportions but I believe that fear of the Lord also means respect the Lord.
As much as computer and mechanical parts break down I think I would rather take my chances with my God designed body that takes many years before it ever breaks down on average than the best of vehicles/computers out there.
I don't believe the hype, you are a fool if you fall for it.
Its funny how I wrote a few comments eluding to these factoids before, and I was subsequently deleted and my comments were read no further. I think it had to do with the relevance of the factor, and I understand that now… I apologize for my transgression. Not to digress any further…
In the 50s and 60s, the research into the stimulation of the human mind was already looked into and "successful" to many extents. Research the "implant" of a "stimoceiver" and you shall see, that we are quite behind in our common knowledge aware to what you like to term "sheeps".
Further on, the same "successful" research was done unto implanting in animals, and used for government purposes. Again, research this very highly documented "research" by scientists, and you will further find "government" based projects.
Now, again… I have a habit of being very verbose in nature. So I shall stop myself from going further, but know that the "Matrix" is quite in depth. We have to learn to walk again.
10301.
Seriously? The next thing you know, people will be able to be in more than one place at the same time. Technology was worst thing to happen to the world. I miss the basic
We already have "research" in which this has already happened… another aspect of transhumanism, or study of theosophy (Madame Blavatansky, Charles L. Leadbeter, Aleister Crowley… so on and so forth) will showcase detailed reports stemming from 1850s+ in which these occurred. These same incidents along with others lead to what we have been "duped" to believe was the outcome in "Men Who Stare At Goats".
Hence, what we have occurring behind the scenes, or what "minions" practice in the occult.
Thanks for the info. Going to read more into it
No problem my same letters in its initials friend. Keep an open mind once you start reading into these things, because it can lead you on a "goose" hunt so to speak. You might think it could be chalked up to Mother Goose, but again Satanic Rituals/Mysticism/Magic are a part of this website, and are parts of slivered Truth. I'll help you continue on your search for Golden Hues, by linking together some of my own "unearthed" clues.
I would like to edit a former statement of mine (didn't want to spam/repost), the correct spellings of aforementioned names were "Charles W Leadbeter" and "Madame Blavatsky". Highly known theosophists , had many ties with Freemasonry/Occult/ Whatever. "Hell" a lot of theosophical lodges exist across all of America, yet they are not looked into… yet their roots are also illuminated and seek so called "clairvoyance" and its related arts. Remote Viewing Anyone?
I think I'll turn my TV on in a bit, watch Family Guy, and have my brain turn numb.
Here is the think these tech guys like Kurzweil always push for the tech human mix because they think it'll solve all problems. The problem of war for land was the same with 100K humans and rocks and sticks as it is now. The tools advance but the issues are all the same. the next tech jump does not solve most of our problems, it just is another tool and we will use it or abuse it the same all all other tools.
Let me tell you something. This Kurzweil character is trying to play God and he will fail miserably. Who does he think he is, in thinking that he can replicate or "better" God's creation? I have a feeling Jesus is laughing at this guy. Like, "yeah right, dude.". I mean seriously, to think that you could actually invent something that God never intended? Fool.
Kurzweil has always dreamed about bringing back his father, and that's his stated with behind seeing this "singularity."
He may be a genius, but he went off the deep end years ago.
This is off topic but i just thought of this idea and wanted to write it here..i wonder why universities such as Harvard and Yale are always promoted in Hollywood!!!
once again man will try to pursue immortality through all cost. although it sounds appealing, why would you want to be immortal, after a while you would get bored really fast, seeing people pass and move on. I was in target the other day when I saw this on TIME. I dont want to become one with technology, Iam happy to be human and thats the way I want to stay!
We are humans and shall remain humans, end of story. Scientists have only worked out what 3-5% of our DNA actually is, the remaining 95% is refered to as 'Junk DNA' because scientist have no idea and they have been working on this for a very long time. So unless some alien life comes along again and gives us a hand in understanding it our progression is going to be very slow.
I really don't get the Illuminati.
Why can't we all just use natural things? Natural and pure water (without flouride) natural foods without toxic chemicals, and NORMAL PEOPLE, no to robots!
Sometimes I just get this feeling that if we start making a lot of robots what if suddenly the Terminator movie becomes true? haha, it's just a theory.
I can understand Kurzweil's belief in the AI. In electrical engineering, there is something called Moore's Law that states that technology advances exponentially. However, what Kurzweil neglects is the pollution that will be created by such technologies. That however wonderful silicon is, the process to create such technologies using silicon is polluting. Just like cell phones and old televisions, if we do one day have the ability to utilize cybernetics, we will create a world of junk because, like human flesh, silicon does not last forever. Everything breaks down. Everything "dies".
And even if this allows us to transfer "consciousness" how can we ever be sure this transfers the "soul". This is the problem with this kind of philosophy. There is no balance. He seeks to somehow cheat death. And while technology has the ability to last longer, it still ends. Natural resources will be destroyed to continually create cyborgs/robots for us to control. And if we follow suit behind Kurzweil, we truly will complete the process of hell on earth.
~A Chic Named Slickback
Every single human being is an intelligence animating a body containing trillions of cells made of materials within nature/ the natural scheme of things.
Human intelligence is as diverse as there are unlimited variations in nature/the natural scheme of things.
As each human awareness learns in a self initiatory process of natural individuation nature also learns and matter is influenced to the sub-atomic levels.
If what we learn is just mere repeatition nature doesn't learn because "been there – done that".
Each human being is a possible evolutionary engine inspiring nature to variation and change.
The Illuminati are enslavers of the anima within human beings and nature/the natural scheme of things.
"It takes hard times to develope willed psychic muscle" and the Illuminati provide the resistance human beings need to develope the motivation and strength to climb the evolutionary ladder.
Each human being has their own natural niche to fill within nature/the natural order.
Each small child corrupted by the Illuminati serves as a focus of inspiration to evolving human awareness aspiring to free abused children from their tormentors.
Each Illuminati adult was once an abused child imprisoned in a nightmare become reality.
The abundance of Illuminati corrupted symbology being paraded before the viewing public today should serve as a reality wake-up call to concerned human beings interested in learning and mastering the occult for the protection and good of all humanity, and nature/the natural shceme of things.
Such was the noble ambition of "Dr. Strange" of Marvel comic fame.
Imagination, humility, and a great deal of patience is needed to transmute occult darkness into spiritual evolving light.
"It takes hard times to develope willed psychic muscle", and faith in the Eternal Spirit gets the job done.
No matter how awesome technology gets, this is actually creepy. I'd rather be strapped to a good old fashioned rocket rather than any wires and plastic they bring up.
Very nicely put Yomael, but what if one is to look beyond the Illuminati as the ones burdening our shoulders? Each and every individual that sets up a limitation within the psyche of our mind, be it your parents by saying "This doesn't exist", to the Workforce "This is what Life is", to the Government, and so on and so forth. Hierarchies within hierarchies within hierarchies, and it goes on like layers on Photoshop or data coding in a Computer. I can further this example, but its early and I look like one of you zombies.
Imagination is Key – Einstein, and you are correct Yomael (your comment is the one above mine, hence the "stimulus" to most of the perceptional analysis this post is showing. A study of the human psyche will again "logify" my reasoning, as well as keep the "transhumanism" topic running forth). For example, if you were to read the comments in an descending order as put, your brain will automatically run through a gauntlet of emotions. Faith, depression, aggression, despair, and "I'm going to kick these people in the face"… term that what you will. Each human that has a "set" emotional response or stimuli that run inside our brain cortex, working alongside the hormones, neurotransmitters, neurons (both pre and post-synaptic cleft), and they send a signal for the aforementioned emotion. This emotional balance is what is integral for us as being "human", and yet… this damn stimoceiver research has been done fifty years ago. Known fact that the government hides their shit for years before they even announce it, so tell me my friends… When Will We Realize That WE ARE ALREADY DONE?
I am not a man on the side of the road with a sign going "The End is Nigh!"… Heck no, I just know that its time people started focusing on the bigger pieces of the "layered puzzle". Too many coincidences, and like Stephen Colbert said "I don't even know what that word means."
Forget Waking Up. Grow up.
As for why Harvard and Yale are inducted by propaganda; its for a myriad of reasons which I'll spell a few out because I'm waiting for my coffee. Funding, society reveres, society endorses, for its "notoriety", "superiority", for its "clubs", and for the subliminal messages one's mind gets by hearing those names itself.
What happens when we die?…Please read "Journey of Souls" by Michael Newton
after reading this book, my fear melted away like a thin cloud, I dont fear death, im actually excited at the prospect and how much more i will learn and see!
There is no hell where our souls go, only understanding and help to be better next time in our next life, the concept of hell was created by the same people we talk about now to scare us into conforming to their will!
This all relates to a spiritual war. Even if you don't believe in God and Satan, the Illuminati do… Satan in the form of Lucifer. Satan's whole goal and the blueprint for the end times is to be an opposite match of Jesus. The whole notion of Satan as adversary is that he wants to be equal or above God… the only thing is that Satan cannot create life. With all the dark, occult magick and secrets of the universe, he cannot create life… so he mimics it in forms that are an abomination.
Much of dark magick and satanism revolves around rituals that mock the sanctity of life because it is a power unattainable by satan.
man that picture creeps me out every time i see it…especially how the "human" is so pale…ewww
Machines don't have souls. If Kurzweil wants to experiment with fusing computers into his own body, let him do it, but leave me out of it. You've only got the one body, if you mess it up, you're toast.
the singularity is probably the most important thing to happen since we grew a brain, no one is going to b forced to become transhumane that would be evil but to hold others back that want to is also evil as for a machine having a soul that is questionable what if a complex machine hacks itself a biological body does that count as having a soul judging tomorow by today standard is as riducules as passing judgement on the past with todays standards plus maybe some of u are happy being flesh and blood ordinary people but some of us would love to explore thu universe if that means modifying my genes to constantly heal i can live with that though i always wonder how much memory a person could hold and how that would affect u as a person i for one choose to b good and see no issue with transcending my biology
oh yeah GOD is in the laws of the universe and he created both light and darkness its up to u to pick a side may the force b with u live long and prosper
When I got that magazine in the mail a couple weeks ago, I thought to myself "Oh, boy!!! And on a national magazine too!" Then I thought about VC and here it is. It's scary how they are coming out into the open with it.
Maybe he's a robot
This is ridiculous there is no such thing as machines being humans its like
cloning it defies the act of life and every thing we believe in this guy should
be ….. i dont realy know what to say he is mad to think a human can be
replaced by a machine. Any thing electronic dealing with a computer can be
hacked and used for bad and good wether these so called humans made
from robotic parts they can be currupted as well. The laws of physics and
biology say this is mad and i do as well…..
You know it wouldn't be hard to make ppl want to be transhuman if you make being human so unbearable that you beg for an alternative.
I.E. pollute the water, food supply, mind, body, mutations, disease etc.
Sounds like the Matrix only this is already happening…
"We can make your sorrows, pain, anger and heart ache go away"
Don't we already do it chemically with drugs and such?
this is slightly random to me but there are quite a few people who are against any talk of Christ or the bible at all.. don't you guys find it weird that something "silly or senseless for weak ppl" has been accurate again and again? I think that says quite a bit. Other people delve into things that open them up spiritually that have nothing to do with Jesus Christ and that is ok. But anyone with a Bible is not clued into science and the reasonable way things should work. People are worshipping so many things nowadays. Technology, money, sex, drugs, etc. All of these forms are accepted as normal and logical when they destroy people all the time. We never hear about the flip side. Of course the mark of the beast is not literally what it seems to be. Half of the world would freak out. The enemy is sneaky and therefore he will bring it in in such a way where it says even those who claim to be devoted to God will be deceived. This is why prayer and study is important because if we cannot discern what just isn't right, we will fall right into the trap. Since the beginning when Lucifer was kicked out he has been trying to show God up. Everything and anything sacred has been tainted and defiled. SO of course the very nature and human existence is being threatened. There is sense in using robotics or manmade things to repair things like lost legs, arms, hearts, etc. But to tell someone perfectly fine-no you need this?! As an american I protest this! Our rights are already being snatched away and now they want to take over our person?! I will walk until I need a chair, I will think until I cannot anymore. I will do what is upright and moral and pleasing to God to the best of my abilities with my own body thank you!
Preach!
I ignore people that bash others (unproved too) for their spiritual beliefs or for their love of the Bible. I would never waste my time arguing with them. Leave a fool to their folly.
Meant to say unprovoked not unproved.
I love how groups like Tokio Hotel, and the Black Eyed peas are trying to brainwash teens into thinkin being a Android/Robot makes you look "cool" and hides all this subliminal messeging behind will.i.ams severe autotune. in I Gotta Feeling, if you strip the backing vocals you can here "Join Us WHOOO HOOOO" Join Us Tonight"
watch it, Tokio Hotel is not part of the Illuminati. >>
the kurzweil approach, simulation, is useful but irrelevant philosophically, because in a non-deterministic universe any mismatch between the correct representation of the organism and its planned behavior will be corrected.
In other words, you substitute the work of a hypothetical soul with statistical data (gathered from the behavior of hypothetical souls) and have a perfect replica, and maybe you even try to use it as proof that no soul exists while nothing has changed- all in good faith, of course.
A better approach is to design a simulation of a world with different rules than ours (gotta simplify, see how much resources IBM watson used), see if life emerges `by itself` (which doesn`t yield significant value as an experiment to prove or disprove the creator, see later) see if self awareness emerges by itself (ditto), generally "play god" with it.
Note the author of that simulation is not a god but a "demigod" because he is not in full control of it, the simulation shares the same reality of the creator.
Instead, a hypothetical transcendent god creating our universe, would create time too, so the concept of "randomly emerging and freely behaving life form " according to a life form's perspective, can be translated to "creature adhering 100% to the creator's desire" according to a god's perspective, with no paradox.
The demigod is nonetheless omnipotent and, if the simulation ends, potentially omniscient in respect to the simulation. All of this, and I'm scratching the surface, is way more interesting than an interface between your brain and some machine that pushes and pulls whatever stimuli the guys who control such machine want. Unfortunately, we all know which way research will be directed to.
Yaawn! You guys are such hypocrites!! Next time you end up in hospital, tell the doctors not to hook you up to life supporting machines and when you walk out (that if your still alive) do not use an electric wheel chair….We are already using trans-humanist technology suckers. If your against it burn your local hospitals!
@BLAKZULU
did you know that hooked life supporting machine saves lives especially you or others got involved in accident that doesn’t mean it’s H+ since others such as nurses or doctors recommend to help accident victims to survive till them wake up from their coma.
i think this image reminds me about matrix, this movie is so important in these times , lookin back in the past ,i never would thought about the posibility of hooking up a human with a machine , until I saw the picture in this article , and of course i´ve red many articles about the new trend: "transhumanism"
I think in certain way, there is a chance that the elite wants us hook up in a reality where they can control us , like matrix , and of course there is a big agenda going on, like the video games , they are becoming so real , the playstation , wii , and are articles that mentions virtual games (like the tron movie and many others ) , i think this tecnology is designed to merge us gradually in a reality where we can be manageable.
maybe it´s difficult for us to predict where this trend wiil end up , and how our lives can change , but one thing is for sure , we´re just a little puppets and of course the powerful people are trying to buy us, and sell us the idea of becoming like a superhuman, like a god (but without god)
how beautiful life would be if we never get a disease , if we can finally overcome death. ?
some of use may not resist the temptation of being "perfect" and never die and will stand for this trend.
but at what cost? breaking the order of nature? , giving up what makes us human? the beauty is in the imperfection
this whole thing , reminds me when the the serpent tempted man to eat Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil to become god!, right now this is happening, this people are playing god , they want to change the order of nature, i wish tecnology were used to improve diseases , climate problems, but instead as far as i know, the vaccines have mercury , we have chemtrails in our skies , and a lot of manipulation in the media , with so much bullshit the only thing we can do is think for ourselves and be true to our convictions.
No machinery in my system. No RFID chips in my system.
I'd rather take a headshot than cope with NWO.