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vanessa
4 years 10 months ago

I believe that the allegory may be used as a tool to mind control too.

If you actually believe that have been illuminated and others are still in the cave, blind and confused.

Probably, some artists think they have reached some high level of spiritual, mental and physically

evolution.

I think I have just figured out what it's all about the videoclip by Hurts – Illuminated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2aCANYiwv0

5 years 1 month ago

MATT10:14 – And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

Kirby
5 years 1 month ago

Thanks to Vigilant for posting this. It's astounding how much humanity today parallels those slaves stuck in the cave, so habitually ingrained in the existence that's been forced upon them that they refuse to accept anything that challenges their perception of reality. It pains me how many times I try to raise awareness about what's happening to our society, and I know the information is falling on deaf ears because they either dismiss it outright or just don't give a shit. I can't really blame them either, because I had the same apathetic response whenever my brother tried sharing the… Read more »

hapz3000
5 years 1 month ago

dude everytime people come out of the cave they are mislead and lied to (alex jones david icke jordan maxwell u cant trust anybody now a days. everytime i buy a good conspiracy theory book the authors are crediting each other. its more than just a matter of coming out of the cave when u cant trust the man who leads you out 80% of the time

SugarStick
5 years 1 month ago

Just beautiful.. That short little animation with its soothing narrator has a strange ability to bring peace to the heart whilst dealing with this issue that we all seemed to be so concerned with. Ignorance, truth, awakening, how to get by in this insane world.. Thankyou for sharing this, what a good find! I just LOVE it x x x x x x x

jamie
5 years 1 month ago

when trying to tell other people about this stuff you have to be careful you can offend or upset people as your claiming to have knowledge the knew nothing about this makes people feel stupid & theyre ego defences go up remember most people are stupid but they are not the 1s too worry about its the purposefully ignorant that will really despise you as your threatening to rock the boat leave the ignorant but help the stupid they will listen if you put it in an entertaining way youll be surprised at how much people will take in if… Read more »

5 years 1 month ago

Forcing someone to believe an idea, fact or notion just as you do is a form of mental rape. One can't force another to think as they would want unless they want to enslave another. So many so called "Christians" do this or other fanatics. Their theory is,"if you don't believe as I do, I will beat you into submission – because my belief is obviously more correct /superior than yours which is inferior". Knowledge takes time like a child learns to crawl and then walk or gurgle then speak. Greater minds from Copernicus to Galileo to Sojourner Truth to… Read more »

BS
5 years 1 month ago

THEY ALL SAY I'M LOSING IT. I'VE TRIED TO LEND THEM A HAND BUT THOSE IGNORANT PEOPLE WON'T EVEN LEND AN EAR. IT'S THINGS LIKE THIS THAT MAKES ME WANNA LEAVE THEM IN THE DARK. BUT I'M TOO MUCH OF A NICE GUY TO LET THEM ALL SUFFER BUT I'VE YET TO FIND A SOLUTION.

TheObserver
5 years 1 month ago

OMG……..

I HONESTLY THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAME UP WITH THIS SAME CONCLUSION ON MY OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm soo happy and delighted to see this !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lo0seR
5 years 1 month ago

Weeping and gnashing of there teeth has begun, they are pissed now that there illusions are no longer working on alot of people and the masses are waking up to there lies on every level. They will stop at nothing to hold on to thousands of years of power they have had, the final and end result of this system will be ugly, even angles shudder.

5 years 1 month ago

Thanks so much for posting this! Awesome – and the symbolism in the illustrations is amazing and insightful. I wrote an analysis of this after watching it. You can read it here: http://www.seeingthroughsaturn.com/post/238097841

masons will not prev
5 years 1 month ago

We are each called to live a sacrificial life in that we lay down our very lives for one another. Who else is God going to be able use to reach others? He has to use someone. We are not blessed to be a blessing for ourselves, but to bless others.

Ge
5 years 1 month ago

No. We are not under any obligation to tell the truth. The truth is available for all.We all have a responsibility to seek out the truth. The cave dwellers are free to leave anytime they want (there are no bars at the entrance).They choose not to because they are content with their surroundings and see no reason to leave. We tell the truth not because we are under obligation, but because of love for the truth and compassion for our fellow man in ignorance. John 3.19 – And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and… Read more »

brett
5 years 1 month ago

Right on Ge! Definitely true. Ultimately you can't force someone to leave the cave if they don't want to, but we can try to encourage them and support them to decide to leave for themselves. Ultimately you have to venture outside of the cave and can not live your life standing right outside of it afraid to let people stay inside if they want to otherwise you are a still a slave to the confines of the cave, except you are outside of it. So we choose to stay by the cave to encourage and help those inside, but we… Read more »

JK
5 years 1 month ago

One of my favorite quotes, from one of my favorite books… "Prophets and inspired people are always considered by the majority to be mad." — Flatland I like what a few of you have said. It is the duty of those who are enlightened to reach out with compassion, love, and understanding to those who are in the dark. Through this we will be ridiculed and considered crazy. But the message we share, the truth, is more important than what people think of us. I'd rather put myself on the line, to be able to share these things that those… Read more »

NK
5 years 1 month ago

Do I risk death to free my prisoned friends or continue basking in light? The kind of light everyone should be free to enjoy.

maria
5 years 1 month ago

look, we have the obligation to "enlighten" our people, but we have to do it the right and most intelligent way: 1.NOT talk about religion, it is just a too personal matter and no matter what the bible says, everyone has the right to have it's own spiritual belief system. believe me, i was talking serious stuff with some people, but as soon as i mentioned satan and jesus i lost them, they just think its fiction so leave it as it is. most people haven't read the bible and won't do it, especially if you come and tell them… Read more »

P from the D
5 years 1 month ago

What groups/organizations protest these things?? This is the only resource I know of where people get together and discuss these isssues. I have no idea where anyone else in the world is who feels like I do. I talk about this at work sometimes, but never get too deep and no one ever can carry a conversation with me.

maria
5 years 1 month ago

that organic consumers association is an example, i can't tell you exactly which organizations there are in your country because i'm from another. but people here can organize themselves according to a cause. so each and everyone of us has to stick to a specific cause and search for the organization that supports it. iin a big country like yours there must be THOUSANDS. what happens is that they make us believe that we are to small and wak to go agaisnt a system but it is key that evreyone does SOMETHING as little as it appears. f its public… Read more »

P from the D
5 years 1 month ago

Thanks, Maria, but how do you know what country I'm from? lol. Just wondering. My problem is, that in my community, I wouldn't know where to find a group or even what group I would want to join or search for. Say for instance public heath and I want to protest against the drug companies and the drugs they prescribe like the ones Vigilant talked about. How would I do that? Or the Food Industry and what they put in our food..?

maria
5 years 1 month ago

you will have to find out fot yourself, you are in front of a computer. i keep responding to you with a webpage that has calendars of protest around the world, protest on diverse issues, but the owner of this page keeps deleting it. i don’t trust this page anymore, i believe its objective is to scare us and make us feel alienated. im grateful for the info i got but i got a great feeling that its just a tool of the same system that it appears to critizise.

Chris
5 years 1 month ago

I agree. It is our obligation to inform and it is so very hard to do so. What such organizations are you referring to? I would love to check them out as long as they aren't tied to any church or religion. It only impedes progress as you said.

Jared
5 years 1 month ago

what he is talking about are organizations such as the organic consumers association

http://www.organicconsumers.org/

this organization literally FORCES congress to do something !!

they have accomplished so much in just a few years

for example, this organization raised awareness of monsanto growing illegal beet crops, and guess what ?

The federal court sopped them.

Jovan
5 years 1 month ago

We went over the parable of the cave in my world history class. According to my teacher, the people in the cave represent society and the freed man represents some kind of enlightened man or philosopher. It is the “philosopher’s” duty to educate society, but he also risks his life because they’ll think he’s crazy, or a higher power will hunt him down for sharing his knowledge. I think I have a good history teacher.

Jovan
5 years 1 month ago

We believe in what we see, or what we are used to, not knowing the truth behind everything.

TheObserver
5 years 1 month ago

In my English Lit course, we had to read this too. The first time I read this, I knew it seemed familiar. And now I know why: It's a symbol of what our world is at the moment. I've felt exactly what that "freed caveman" felt like. To be ridiculed and called "insane" and be preferred to psychiatrists because I had broken free from the tyranny of false lies. Even my own parents and best friends believed I was going insane when I tried to tell them. To this day, I still wonder if it would be better to have… Read more »

Zillian
5 years 1 month ago

Plato compares the idea of having no understanding of the outside environment surrounding the cave; these prisoners have become ignorant and powerless. All they see in the cave is all that they have to base their judgment and knowledge off of. The shadows on the wall that imitate different entities hold significant power, even if they are just mere puppets, because the prisoners have no frame of reference to base these shadows off of. Plato’s understanding of the cave is that when people allow themselves to live in the dark, they cannot become enlightened to anything else. Living in the… Read more »

Oscar :)
5 years 1 month ago

Oscar likes this.✌

Kira
5 years 1 month ago

Nothing will ever compare to philosophy. A lot of Plato's arguments are flawed, but I do admire his allegories and similes as a way of representing to us what we so plainly fail to realize. The allegory of the cave is a concise way of representing society, I suppose. The slaves are a symbol of society, as they are so dimly lead by the shadows which they consider to be "real" as that is what the elite have restricted us to see. Obviously, if any of you have ever tried to tell your family and friends about the illuminati, you… Read more »

scott
5 years 1 month ago

@End Days, you are correct. The problem is that the real message of the scriptures are not being preached. Nearly all churches do more to make a mockery of the true gospel. It is unfortunate that the Catholic Mystery Religion has defined Christianity for many. This institution was the one responsible for the mass murders of the dark ages and beyond. That is not Christianity.

The great deception that Bible speaks of is happening right now. Steer free of new age mumbo jumbo and "big tent" or emergent Christianity. This is just mystery babylon in disguise.

ClintA
5 years 1 month ago

This is all "what if?" Asking what if can be helpful, but continuing to ask what if and never acknowledging what is, isn't helpful.

Chris
5 years 1 month ago

But that's kinda the point. "what is" is irrelevant because it really isn't the reality we perceive it to be. The reason you are experiencing this existence is so that your true self or soul or whatever you wanna call it is learning a lesson. I think that the lesson is to learn what goodness, love, and compassion really are. If you don't learn that lesson you try again in another life. This existence is "hell" and you can be eternally bound to it, especially when there are people actively trying to bind you to your materialism.

...
5 years 1 month ago

I agree with your statement. At least the part about the point of this experience being to find out "so that your true self or soul learns"… but I think it's not "a" lesson. Instead it is "THE" lesson. Big difference. Just on this stage we call life. Nothing more. and deffinetly nothing less. Scaling to get HOME. Evil that permeates in the world should serve as a contrast instead of a comparison. A tool. But understand that good & "evil" will always exist. Free will is incredibly important, in fact that's the POINT to it all. To SEE the… Read more »

Chris
5 years 1 month ago

I see your point, but how can we know if this is the only lesson and that there arent possibly a series of lessons to be learned?

Chris
5 years 1 month ago

Yea what Jovan said is right. It's not about us vs elite, it's more about how those who become enlightened bear a heavy burden because they realize that everything they sense around them is just a reflection of an idea. People who are unenlightened will ridicule the enlightened saying that they are crazy. The elite are the people who are enlightened but have learned how to cheat the system and enslave the unenlightened masses. So really people who are enlightened and are on the side of goodness will be fighting both the unenlightened and the evil. They will be persecuted… Read more »

Immabfree
5 years 1 month ago

Soooo true Chris, knowledge has defintely put me between a rock and a hard place. I often feel I have no one to turn to with my doubts and concerns. I'm consistly labelled crazy or told im reading to much into things. To make matters worse, im in the military. So you can image how well my views are accepted here. I basically just stay to myself, and do my own thing. Which is also frowned upon here, you must graze with the herd. The more knowledge I gather the more the world around me makes me sick. Sometimes I… Read more »

Ivanna
5 years 1 month ago

my entire family has been saying that i'm crazy when i talk about the illuminati and their world domination.. i still try saying to them about the poison in the food like HCS Aspartame and other stuff but they say that THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE EVEN IF THEY KNOW IT'S BAD FOR THEIR HEALTH BECAUSE THEY WANNA LIVE NOT SUFFER(?) they're totally brainwashed and i find it hard to convince them

Thanks for this vid Vigilant!

valentin
5 years 1 month ago

The greatest victory of the elite, whether they know it or not, is the contempt the masses have for a "conspiracy theory."

BECAUSE IF ITS QUESTIONING THE EXISTING ORDER, IT MUST BE WRONG!!!

which is why i have to be so careful when passing this information on.

Seven Rayed God
5 years 1 month ago

Believe me your not alone. I was once put into a situation where I had to defend living a healthy lifestyle. I'm even mocked by my own family members when I mention vitamins and minerals or when certain foods they eat are loaded with garbage ingredients. I'll give it to the Illuminati, they are some intelligent fucks.

camille
5 years 1 month ago

i love how now they are pushing that corn sugar (HFCS) is okay because it's "just like any other sugar" — they have the website cornsurgar.com for "facts." i say whether it's fact or fiction, people should reduce their sugar intake, period. so many americans know NOTHING about the power of foods you choose to eat. and calling alot of what is available to us "food" can even be a stretch. so much of it has little to no nutritional value but people don't know better nor do they care because it tastes good.

5 years 1 month ago

I know how you feel.

Jovan
5 years 1 month ago

I feel your pain

Ivanna
5 years 1 month ago

thanks Jovan i hope this will change :(

5 years 1 month ago

don't feel bad, that's the reason i don't have friends anymore, they say I am over doing it! The Good Thing, now i don't have Frienemies anymore. If they don't see it, sometimes, its because they have no problem with it!

Hola
5 years 1 month ago

We just talked about this in philosophy class! My thoughts on the parable of the cave are the fact that the world is presented to us by decievers. You can look at it as the devil, the elite, or the oligopolies controlling various media outlets or high powered accounts. Those in the cave are masses, very content in what is presented to them, making kings of themselves for nominal reasons and unaware of the true world that surrounds them. Those who make the shadow images on the wall know about the "enlightend world" but if you notice they are so… Read more »

Immabfree
5 years 1 month ago

I second that well said Hola! U RoCK! :)

tOpO
5 years 1 month ago

estas completamente en lo correcto hermano..!! The sad thing about this cave is that we love to live in it.. we absolutely love our big screen tvs, our very expensive cars, our tons of crap we buy to feel good about ourselves.. like many others in this site, I've seen people tell me they have no interest in any "conspiracy theories" (with quotes because it's insulting for us to be called theories when we know with many facts these are not theories anymore) because they are living the life and I'm not.. we have been trained to forget how to… Read more »

dave
5 years 1 month ago

well said tOpO!!!!! we are all toghether in this cave and we will rise above it!!! you make very good comments, keep them coming!!

TheObserver
5 years 1 month ago

I believe everyone on this website has felt the pain of being a freed caveman. We try to tell our closest friends and our dearest families, but even they don't believe us. But look at us now! The truth is spreading and it may not be be your local neighbor that knows and understands the truth, but the truth is spreading! I believe there is hope that one day, enough of our friends who have subjugated into slavery will be break free as well! And then we can free more people. The more people there are spreading the truth, the… Read more »

5 years 1 month ago

thank you Hola, WELL said!!! Much Love.

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