1. So, if we are enlightened and we try to enlighten others, we will suffer, and fail.

    Or, are we the ones in the cave and the elite are the ones made free?

    Anyway, I had never thought about the allegory of the cave in that way.

    • O.K. I could be wrong but what I gathered from this video was that unenlightened society is represented by the people in the cave. Enlighten people, such as the awesome VC fans ;), are represented by the person who was able to escape the darkness. Elite society are the men behind the curtain creating the illusion that keeps the masses bound. Media and like wise certain celebrities are reprensented by the puppets used in the illusion. What I find interest ing is the fact that despite the turmoil and pain the enlighten people face with knowing both sides of the coin, the truth and the lie associated with life, they are the only truly free people in the scenario. The people in the dark are bound by lies and ignorances. The elitist know the truth and the lie, however they are so focused and content on maintaining their illusion they miss out on enjoying the fullness of the world (Part of that fullness being sharing truth not creating illusions). The puppets are just tools to be ponder on by the people in the dark. Sure the puppets have the adoration of the people in the dark but they never get to expierence the outside world either, their to busy putting on a show.

      Futhermore is the character who freed the man from his chains in the video and jesus-like representation? He defintely did free himself by his own strength. So does that imply the people in the dark need a connection with a higher power to be freed? Maybe thats why so many are still in the dark maybe those who know the truth where given a gift of knowledge that broke their chains. Is it possible the whole purpose for the illusion is to weaken our connection to our creator, the one who has the power to show us truth.

      I dont know but I enjoyed the video very much and would love to hear other points of view!

  2. We just talked about this in philosophy class! My thoughts on the parable of the cave are the fact that the world is presented to us by decievers. You can look at it as the devil, the elite, or the oligopolies controlling various media outlets or high powered accounts. Those in the cave are masses, very content in what is presented to them, making kings of themselves for nominal reasons and unaware of the true world that surrounds them. Those who make the shadow images on the wall know about the "enlightend world" but if you notice they are so busy keeping the masses in the cage they don't leave themselves, perhaps being caught up in their own deception so much that they form their own alternate reality. And the one that becomes fully enlightened would be the one that either seeks or gets pushed towards the truth, accepting it and making new note on what their new surrounding is. Without being influenced by his former peers or "royalty" this person can enjoy the physical and intellectual beauty of the world. I think any person on this site is on their way, climbing out of the cage—don't stop, can't you see the sun breaking in the distance?

    • I believe everyone on this website has felt the pain of being a freed caveman. We try to tell our closest friends and our dearest families, but even they don't believe us. But look at us now! The truth is spreading and it may not be be your local neighbor that knows and understands the truth, but the truth is spreading! I believe there is hope that one day, enough of our friends who have subjugated into slavery will be break free as well! And then we can free more people. The more people there are spreading the truth, the more we can win this fight against the illuminati/NWO.

      I think all we need, is to have faith and stay strong. Yes they may laugh and ridicule us, but in the end, WE ARE RIGHT, and sooner or later, the truth will come out. =)

    • estas completamente en lo correcto hermano..!!

      The sad thing about this cave is that we love to live in it.. we absolutely love our big screen tvs, our very expensive cars, our tons of crap we buy to feel good about ourselves.. like many others in this site, I've seen people tell me they have no interest in any "conspiracy theories" (with quotes because it's insulting for us to be called theories when we know with many facts these are not theories anymore) because they are living the life and I'm not.. we have been trained to forget how to live, I remember when I was a kid all I could think of was getting back to the house and play with my friends and do sports and goof around.. now we have xbox live, ps3 online and other crap that keeps us trained in not talking to our friends and being stuck in our caves alone so more andmore people can say they are depressed and need therapy..

      I had never read or heard this incredible legacy about the cave.. and now more than ever the cave is deep, filled with crap and lonely.. we no longer live our lives but we buy our way through it… and the sad thing is that if you don't have plenty of things you're a loser.. WHY THE HELL..??? and to be honest I wouldn't consider myself elightened because I still am plenty of steps behind them in what they think and do.. and don't understand everything that happens and still most numbers evade me.. but by God I will continue to learn and try and understand what they do, how and why they do it and share what I've learned..

      To all of you.. a big thanks for being my company on this cave that we're almost out of.. just a few more steps and I know we'll understand everything.. and specially thanks to VC because he is the reason why we found each other..!

      • well said tOpO!!!!! we are all toghether in this cave and we will rise above it!!! you make very good comments, keep them coming!!

  3. my entire family has been saying that i'm crazy when i talk about the illuminati and their world domination.. i still try saying to them about the poison in the food like HCS Aspartame and other stuff but they say that THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE EVEN IF THEY KNOW IT'S BAD FOR THEIR HEALTH BECAUSE THEY WANNA LIVE NOT SUFFER(?) they're totally brainwashed and i find it hard to convince them

    Thanks for this vid Vigilant!

      • don't feel bad, that's the reason i don't have friends anymore, they say I am over doing it! The Good Thing, now i don't have Frienemies anymore. If they don't see it, sometimes, its because they have no problem with it!

    • Seven Rayed God on

      Believe me your not alone. I was once put into a situation where I had to defend living a healthy lifestyle. I'm even mocked by my own family members when I mention vitamins and minerals or when certain foods they eat are loaded with garbage ingredients. I'll give it to the Illuminati, they are some intelligent fucks.

      • i love how now they are pushing that corn sugar (HFCS) is okay because it's "just like any other sugar" — they have the website cornsurgar.com for "facts." i say whether it's fact or fiction, people should reduce their sugar intake, period. so many americans know NOTHING about the power of foods you choose to eat. and calling alot of what is available to us "food" can even be a stretch. so much of it has little to no nutritional value but people don't know better nor do they care because it tastes good.

    • The greatest victory of the elite, whether they know it or not, is the contempt the masses have for a "conspiracy theory."


      which is why i have to be so careful when passing this information on.

  4. Yea what Jovan said is right. It's not about us vs elite, it's more about how those who become enlightened bear a heavy burden because they realize that everything they sense around them is just a reflection of an idea. People who are unenlightened will ridicule the enlightened saying that they are crazy. The elite are the people who are enlightened but have learned how to cheat the system and enslave the unenlightened masses. So really people who are enlightened and are on the side of goodness will be fighting both the unenlightened and the evil. They will be persecuted and their wisdom will be misconstrued. We must enlighten the masses and stop fighting over what religion is right. If any of them were 100% accurate, our world would not be so fucked up. Take the bit of truth that exists in everything and live by it. Let love be the scale to which you weigh all of your actions. That is how we fix things.

    • Soooo true Chris, knowledge has defintely put me between a rock and a hard place. I often feel I have no one to turn to with my doubts and concerns. I'm consistly labelled crazy or told im reading to much into things. To make matters worse, im in the military. So you can image how well my views are accepted here. I basically just stay to myself, and do my own thing. Which is also frowned upon here, you must graze with the herd. The more knowledge I gather the more the world around me makes me sick. Sometimes I get mad that people just do not understand the signs and symbols that are around them, its plain to see. But then I remember ignorants is bliss and reality is pain, i guess id rather live in truth and pain than ignorant bliss.

  5. This is all "what if?" Asking what if can be helpful, but continuing to ask what if and never acknowledging what is, isn't helpful.

    • But that's kinda the point. "what is" is irrelevant because it really isn't the reality we perceive it to be. The reason you are experiencing this existence is so that your true self or soul or whatever you wanna call it is learning a lesson. I think that the lesson is to learn what goodness, love, and compassion really are. If you don't learn that lesson you try again in another life. This existence is "hell" and you can be eternally bound to it, especially when there are people actively trying to bind you to your materialism.

      • I agree with your statement. At least the part about the point of this experience being to find out "so that your true self or soul learns"… but I think it's not "a" lesson. Instead it is "THE" lesson. Big difference.

        Just on this stage we call life. Nothing more. and deffinetly nothing less. Scaling to get HOME.

        Evil that permeates in the world should serve as a contrast instead of a comparison. A tool. But understand that good & "evil" will always exist. Free will is incredibly important, in fact that's the POINT to it all. To SEE the choice that we should take… but never being forced to make it.

      • I see your point, but how can we know if this is the only lesson and that there arent possibly a series of lessons to be learned?

  6. @End Days, you are correct. The problem is that the real message of the scriptures are not being preached. Nearly all churches do more to make a mockery of the true gospel. It is unfortunate that the Catholic Mystery Religion has defined Christianity for many. This institution was the one responsible for the mass murders of the dark ages and beyond. That is not Christianity.

    The great deception that Bible speaks of is happening right now. Steer free of new age mumbo jumbo and "big tent" or emergent Christianity. This is just mystery babylon in disguise.

  7. Nothing will ever compare to philosophy.

    A lot of Plato's arguments are flawed, but I do admire his allegories and similes as a way of representing to us what we so plainly fail to realize. The allegory of the cave is a concise way of representing society, I suppose. The slaves are a symbol of society, as they are so dimly lead by the shadows which they consider to be "real" as that is what the elite have restricted us to see. Obviously, if any of you have ever tried to tell your family and friends about the illuminati, you would have heard "you're crazy!" or even suffered the ridicule of being laughed at. This is because the people you love, are in fact, those slaves. It's not so simple to pull these people away from what they are accustomed. In my eyes, you're either born with sceptisism or not. It can be obtained (as the slave that was freed suddenly gained the knowledge of experience, seeing the varying stages of reality) but I suppose that takes some sort of time or epiphany. Alas, the freed one (or the philosopher, if you like) will always be ridiculed in the eyes of the powerful.

  8. Plato compares the idea of having no understanding of the outside environment surrounding the cave; these prisoners have become ignorant and powerless. All they see in the cave is all that they have to base their judgment and knowledge off of. The shadows on the wall that imitate different entities hold significant power, even if they are just mere puppets, because the prisoners have no frame of reference to base these shadows off of. Plato’s understanding of the cave is that when people allow themselves to live in the dark, they cannot become enlightened to anything else. Living in the cave has made it so that it is acceptable to assume that how we see things is really how they are; shackled prisoners have accepted that the cave holds truth to all of life and humanity. Unable to move from their shackles or turn their heads, they have succumbed to the darkness of which has been presented to them. Plato theorizes that the prisoners are no different from the people who are free, but rather, they commonly all rely on emotion, rather than reason.

    When Plato is able to leave the cave, he rationalizes his time spent there. He notes that the emotions the darkness had brought and also what it felt like to live emotionally in the dark. When he is finally able to walk outside and see the sun light it almost becomes too much, because he cannot adjust his eyes to see clearly in the glaring sun; it was easier to see in the dark than it is now to see in the daylight. Understanding that there is a world outside of the cave is almost too much to process, it is almost just easier to go back than to try and understand this new way of life. He notes the shadows on the wall and how when he is free to go, he can see that they were just puppets; he can now put a thought and rationalize the things he sees in front of him. Plato analyzes that walking into the light from the dark is like being ignorant and then becoming enlightened.

    Through Plato’s experience, he is able to relate the allegory of the cave to critical thinking and political movements. He imagines that if anyone were to try and critically think than they first must imagine living in a cave and the path outside of exiting the cave is a valuable insight into critical thinking. Offering paths of leaving the cave, which is considered a normative way of living and thought, is considered delusional to anyone living in the cave. Anyone who leaves and comes back and is able to become awakened to the darkness seems crazy to the cave dwellers; this is comparative to anyone who is able to think outside of what we consider normal in society. To be able to critically think we must be enlightened, rational, open minded and self aware; these things cannot be achieved until we are able to see outside of our own personal caves. Plato’s allegory of the cave is a figure of speech for our critical thinking, to accept our interpretation of society as being the only right one, is like accepting the shadows on the cave’s wall for being whatever we perceive them to be.

  9. We went over the parable of the cave in my world history class. According to my teacher, the people in the cave represent society and the freed man represents some kind of enlightened man or philosopher. It is the “philosopher’s” duty to educate society, but he also risks his life because they’ll think he’s crazy, or a higher power will hunt him down for sharing his knowledge. I think I have a good history teacher.

      • In my English Lit course, we had to read this too. The first time I read this, I knew it seemed familiar. And now I know why: It's a symbol of what our world is at the moment. I've felt exactly what that "freed caveman" felt like. To be ridiculed and called "insane" and be preferred to psychiatrists because I had broken free from the tyranny of false lies. Even my own parents and best friends believed I was going insane when I tried to tell them.

        To this day, I still wonder if it would be better to have broken free and know the truth … or to be in a blissfully happy world full of lies. Which is better?

  10. look, we have the obligation to "enlighten" our people, but we have to do it the right and most intelligent way:

    1.NOT talk about religion, it is just a too personal matter and no matter what the bible says, everyone has the right to have it's own spiritual belief system. believe me, i was talking serious stuff with some people, but as soon as i mentioned satan and jesus i lost them, they just think its fiction so leave it as it is. most people haven't read the bible and won't do it, especially if you come and tell them to do so. when you encounter a more spiritual person you will notice and will be able to talk with, but please, try to leave it alone. The same with aliens, ufos, illuminatis, crazy symbols, mind control puppets, etc.

    2. Start with the most tangible, everyday stuff. There are serious reports about health policies for example: the h1n1 vaccine shot and it's side effects, or perhaps things that are happening within your communit and you don't agree with. Or the nature of the federal reserve, for that you have alex jones "the obama deception" just come one day and ask your friends or mother or brothers "do you want to watch a movie with me"? and let alex jones tell them. whatever you can have against the guy doesn't matter, the thing is he brings you the historic and numeric facts and prooves about what is happening in YOUR country. Explain you families that this is important for you and for those who come after you, for the children in our planet. It is not in order to leave happiness aside, you can be happy but aware.

    3. Print hand the people these reports, it is most probable that they will take that more serious than you, just because they don't believe that you are that well informed. Or give them (serious) documentarys, that don't mix religion and paranormal just because that is too hard to accept for the average person.

    The ending of this clip is very important: the one that knows the truth has the OBLIGATION to inform others but i repeat, in a cautios way and little by little, so they are not overwhelmed with all the information.

    It is time stop passively watching all that is happening each and everyone of us has the obligation to stop it. There are many organizations that are protesting on all that is happening, you all must contact such organisations ans start from there.

    blessings and sorry for my poor english, it is not my language.

    • I agree. It is our obligation to inform and it is so very hard to do so. What such organizations are you referring to? I would love to check them out as long as they aren't tied to any church or religion. It only impedes progress as you said.

      • what he is talking about are organizations such as the organic consumers association


        this organization literally FORCES congress to do something !!

        they have accomplished so much in just a few years

        for example, this organization raised awareness of monsanto growing illegal beet crops, and guess what ?

        The federal court sopped them.

    • What groups/organizations protest these things?? This is the only resource I know of where people get together and discuss these isssues. I have no idea where anyone else in the world is who feels like I do. I talk about this at work sometimes, but never get too deep and no one ever can carry a conversation with me.

      • that organic consumers association is an example, i can't tell you exactly which organizations there are in your country because i'm from another. but people here can organize themselves according to a cause. so each and everyone of us has to stick to a specific cause and search for the organization that supports it. iin a big country like yours there must be THOUSANDS. what happens is that they make us believe that we are to small and wak to go agaisnt a system but it is key that evreyone does SOMETHING as little as it appears.

        f its public health, media, or just plain protesting for something that is going to happen. this is a web inciative which i found interesting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLcUVNee_UI&fe
        one person can't change evereything, but we have to get organized.

      • Thanks, Maria, but how do you know what country I'm from? lol. Just wondering. My problem is, that in my community, I wouldn't know where to find a group or even what group I would want to join or search for. Say for instance public heath and I want to protest against the drug companies and the drugs they prescribe like the ones Vigilant talked about. How would I do that? Or the Food Industry and what they put in our food..?

      • you will have to find out fot yourself, you are in front of a computer. i keep responding to you with a webpage that has calendars of protest around the world, protest on diverse issues, but the owner of this page keeps deleting it. i don’t trust this page anymore, i believe its objective is to scare us and make us feel alienated. im grateful for the info i got but i got a great feeling that its just a tool of the same system that it appears to critizise.

  11. Do I risk death to free my prisoned friends or continue basking in light? The kind of light everyone should be free to enjoy.

  12. One of my favorite quotes, from one of my favorite books… "Prophets and inspired people are always considered by the majority to be mad." — Flatland

    I like what a few of you have said. It is the duty of those who are enlightened to reach out with compassion, love, and understanding to those who are in the dark. Through this we will be ridiculed and considered crazy. But the message we share, the truth, is more important than what people think of us. I'd rather put myself on the line, to be able to share these things that those in the dark may never encounter, than keep it to myself because of what they might think of me. If we love others we should look out for them cause we might be the only ones who can see what is transpiring. And we have to not get upset or become judgemental either (something I have to be careful of myself) because really these people just don't know better. We always should keep that in mind. Reach out to others in love, compassion and understanding always. We can't shove these ideas down their throats, that doesn't work. Trust me, I know. 😉

  13. No.

    We are not under any obligation to tell the truth. The truth is available for all.We all have a responsibility to seek out the truth.

    The cave dwellers are free to leave anytime they want (there are no bars at the entrance).They choose not to because they are content with their surroundings and see no reason to leave.

    We tell the truth not because we are under obligation, but because of love for the truth and compassion for our fellow man in ignorance.

    John 3.19 – And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

    • Right on Ge! Definitely true. Ultimately you can't force someone to leave the cave if they don't want to, but we can try to encourage them and support them to decide to leave for themselves. Ultimately you have to venture outside of the cave and can not live your life standing right outside of it afraid to let people stay inside if they want to otherwise you are a still a slave to the confines of the cave, except you are outside of it. So we choose to stay by the cave to encourage and help those inside, but we have to maintain a balance in our lives and not be emotional drained by the fact that others may refuse to leave it. We are infinite beings and have the right to make some wrong choices if we wish. It's all a balancing act in the end between doing too much and not doing enough to help others.

  14. masons will not prev on

    We are each called to live a sacrificial life in that we lay down our very lives for one another. Who else is God going to be able use to reach others? He has to use someone. We are not blessed to be a blessing for ourselves, but to bless others.

  15. Weeping and gnashing of there teeth has begun, they are pissed now that there illusions are no longer working on alot of people and the masses are waking up to there lies on every level. They will stop at nothing to hold on to thousands of years of power they have had, the final and end result of this system will be ugly, even angles shudder.

  16. OMG……..


    I'm soo happy and delighted to see this !!!!!!!!!!!!!


  18. Forcing someone to believe an idea, fact or notion just as you do is a form of mental rape. One can't force another to think as they would want unless they want to enslave another. So many so called "Christians" do this or other fanatics. Their theory is,"if you don't believe as I do, I will beat you into submission – because my belief is obviously more correct /superior than yours which is inferior". Knowledge takes time like a child learns to crawl and then walk or gurgle then speak. Greater minds from Copernicus to Galileo to Sojourner Truth to Martin Luther King to Bob Marley have spoken many people of their time thought they were mad, crazy or should pipe down and keep their mouth shut and wait. Each person is responsible for themselves and each must pay the price, bear the cross of their beliefs. That is the mystery of life. We all live in caves and it is up to us to climb the stair case with a guide hopefully loving but none the less we still have the choice or not to get out of the cave. A wise teacher doesn't beat a novice into submission like a soldier. A wise teacher acts as a guide and allows the person to advance by their own thoughts and theories on what is presented.

  19. when trying to tell other people about this stuff you have to be careful you can offend or upset people as your claiming to have knowledge the knew nothing about this makes people feel stupid & theyre ego defences go up remember most people are stupid but they are not the 1s too worry about its the purposefully ignorant that will really despise you as your threatening to rock the boat leave the ignorant but help the stupid they will listen if you put it in an entertaining way youll be surprised at how much people will take in if your smart about how you deliver the information think bill hicks & george carlin use satire like carlins "we like war" eg Im almost past caring what other people think of me I have my own journey. good tip buy charity shop clothes you feel much better helping kids as opposed to exploiting them. ps I did a stand up gig if anyone wants to check it out utube stevensonjames26 my first stand up.

    I love you all & theres nothing you can do about it

  20. Just beautiful.. That short little animation with its soothing narrator has a strange ability to bring peace to the heart whilst dealing with this issue that we all seemed to be so concerned with. Ignorance, truth, awakening, how to get by in this insane world.. Thankyou for sharing this, what a good find! I just LOVE it x x x x x x x

  21. dude everytime people come out of the cave they are mislead and lied to (alex jones david icke jordan maxwell u cant trust anybody now a days. everytime i buy a good conspiracy theory book the authors are crediting each other. its more than just a matter of coming out of the cave when u cant trust the man who leads you out 80% of the time

  22. Thanks to Vigilant for posting this. It's astounding how much humanity today parallels those slaves stuck in the cave, so habitually ingrained in the existence that's been forced upon them that they refuse to accept anything that challenges their perception of reality. It pains me how many times I try to raise awareness about what's happening to our society, and I know the information is falling on deaf ears because they either dismiss it outright or just don't give a shit. I can't really blame them either, because I had the same apathetic response whenever my brother tried sharing the same type of knowledge with me. They're so conditioned to these aspects of life that society indoctrinates us to believe are all that's important, the shadows on the wall, that they wouldn't recognize the truth even if they had the capacity to understand its significance for mankind. What's probably the biggest obstacle to enlightening others is getting them to spiritually awaken, to care about themselves and everyone around them enough to search for the truth and share it with anyone they can. Once more and more people care enough to research and discover what's really going on for themselves, then maybe we can really can make some changes. As Plato stressed, "it is the task of the enlightened, not only to ascend to learning and to see the good, but to be willing to descend again to those prisoners and share their troubles and their honors, whether they are worth having or not."

  23. I believe that the allegory may be used as a tool to mind control too.

    If you actually believe that have been illuminated and others are still in the cave, blind and confused.

    Probably, some artists think they have reached some high level of spiritual, mental and physically


    I think I have just figured out what it's all about the videoclip by Hurts – Illuminated.

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