Kurzweil: A Future of Humans Merged With Machines (video)

Jun 28th, 2011 | Category: Latest News | 116 comments


Previous articles on this site have described how the concept of transhumanism was subtly promoted in music videos, movies and video games. In the recent months, the transhumanist agenda took a much more direct approach as Ray Kurzweil became the voice of the movement he calls “Singularity” – the merging of humans with machine. While pop stars dance around as robots to wow the younger crowds, Kurzweil addresses the adult and mature population.

Here’s Ray Kurzweil during in an interview with the Wall Street Journal.



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116 Comments to “Kurzweil: A Future of Humans Merged With Machines (video)”

  1. Jordan says:

    I watched his whole documentary on Netflix. It was recommended for me somehow? Disturbing, to say the least.

    • Brandon says:

      I have it in my Netflix Instant Queue also. Planning on watching it this weekend.

      • ki says:

        F*** that! Im packing my pags soon and going where this freaking 'singularity' will never ever take place! All the "futuristic" films you've all seen will come true in a way such as Blade Runner, Total Recall, 2001 space odyssey, Matrix, Minority Report, iRobot (with real humans beings as robots), The 6th Day etc etc etc. All those involve machines interacting with humans (or implanted in humans) and the most terrifying in my opinion is Blade Runner. That bloody film has "organic robots" which they are already developing in Japan so in 20yrs time we will certainly see the emergence of these robots (whatever) walking with us in the streets, being used and abused. We can only HOPE for something unexpected to happen such as a natural disaster or similar events to destroy their inhuman plans. But in the meantime I will most likely get the hell out of here and live somewhere I can interact with real humans who have compassion, love and respect for one another!

    • rawr says:

      I dont think its disturbing, its fantastic technology that could help us a LOT.

      Unfortunately it never will because it wont be accessible to the public, but rather to the elite, who will use all the good stuff for themselves and give us the stuff that will kill us rather than help.

      So what we will get is immortal elite and slaves who die at the age of 65 (at best)

    • Lost Musical Meaning says:

      Lol yeah.

      If this ever does come true I can imagine people telling their grand kids of when they used to be 100% human.

  2. jeddy says:

    quite interesting, i want to read more on this!

  3. Britney says:

    well not really a concern if the worlds ending in 2012 ;) if not then yeah im a bit concerned my daughter will b an adult, not to keen on her turning into a robot aye – def very unnerving :S

  4. Jinx says:

    Singularity in itself is what the illuminati want as the end result of the NWO, for then they could theoretically control the entire of population. Everything will be left to their whim, so to speak.

    It is also very interesting how he himself keeps the window open on this "new awesome technology" being able to be used for malice. Now I don't believe that the singularity theory, as explained in this clip will ever happen, but that's not the actual point of the singularity theory (I think). The idea is to turn people into machine like beings that obey without questions, and bioligical weapons will be the means to keep everyone in tune.

    It is also interessting the word "transcendance" keeps being used (can't get more illuminati than that). Because we are not yet perfect beings. They "wanna get rid of cancer", but what will they do about trojans and other software viruses. Or hackers hacking into your brain and getting possession of all of your private information lol. Transcendance, funny.

    • Voice of Reason says:

      I wonder how many computer viruses have been developed/unleashed by the Elite themselves (rather than, as they claim, by a few deranged, angry loners); in order to sell the expensive, virus-fighting software they developed, which will generate enormous profits for them…

      • Godozo says:

        Who says they're actually two separate entities?

        I'd say the nuts are being hired by the elites (via certain of their less "legal" branches) to write up the viruses. They live well enough for themselves, while the real money get siphoned by the criminal branch of the elites.

    • joanna says:

      @Jinx

      A cure for cancer = no profits

      A good read is The Rise of the Fourth Reich by Jim Marrs, he explains what happened to all the doctor's who tried to go public with the cure …… all died or had their medical cert taken away from them. Also Cancer Research UK have millions of charity money raised every year by deluded kind-hearted innocent people ….. funny how these donations are not released through Cancer research audits. 30-40 years of cancer rife in our generation and still no cure …… ?

      A great video on Youtube "Run from the cure" by Rick Simpson

      God Bless

      • Jinx says:

        @ Joanna

        Thx, I was not aware that a cure for cancer had already been developed, and I will try to find as much info on the subject as I possibly can. Keep in mind that I was being sarcastic when saying that the illuminati want to cure cancer, I'm well aware of their agenda and intentions ;). It was but a bit of mockery on the "singularity" theory from my side.

        The end will be bleak indeed, for those who follow satan, though beware, for a lot will follow him without even knowing and will burn in the deepest Hell with Satan. Contrary to what most think, Satan will not reign over Hell, and doesn't reign over it now. In Hell he will meet his eternal punishment, as will all that follow his path.

      • Fleurdamour says:

        For-profit medicine is an abomination.

      • Leer says:

        Good call jinx. Archangel Michael defeated Satan in combat and cast him out of Heaven. We can see where the real power lies.

      • Chambek says:

        Look! You don't need a cure for cancer if you can understand it and strengthen your immunity. Nothing is certain, but cancer is an exponential mutation of cells brought on greatly by toxins(usually petroleum based) and mostly by continual insufficient amount of water especially on a cellular level. Avoid HFCS, canola oil, msg, mineral oil(in sunscreen/causes cancer), and things like these. Eat right and drink lots if clean water

      • Chambek says:

        If it were revealed that the FDA constable lies and approves extremely harmful substances that it claims are safe and that cola companies are as responsible for cancer as are big tobacco is, then there would be a large law suit on most major entities in the U.S. it'll never happen.
        As regards hell: do you actually believe in a fiery torture pit beneath you feet? Come on, use your brain, that's dantes inferno, a myth. When the bible speaks of he'll it's translated from sheol which means human death in general, don't be fooled. It even says jesus senecio hell

      • Chambek says:

        …before he was resurrected. Yes he was simply dead then resurrected. The lake of fire in revelation is said to eventually have death and Satan cast into it. How can death be cast into this lake? It's not an actual lake, it is symbolic, it means firever destroyed not coming back, ect. Like if you burn your paycheck will you reassemble it no it is forever changed and gone. Get it?

    • "There is no firewall for the brain."

      For the unwashed masses, these gadgets will be used to hijack their indepdence, sentience, metacognition, introspection, autonomy, memory, and self-preservation. Anything and everything will be under the control of the NSA. Oh, and of course the vital functions (just in case you get out of line if somehow the gadget malfunctions).

      For the elite, this technolgoy will turn them into "man-gods," counterfeit gods.

      Consider Germany's two-tier vacciation system. The same will happen in the future once this "singularity" takes place.

      http://www.thelocal.de/national/20091021-22701.ht

  5. Mark says:

    not to get all Biblical but does this sound like the beginning mark of the beast to anyone. talking about computer small as a blood cell to float around in our brain. no thanks i want nothing to do with putting anything under my skin esp in my hand or head. no privacy with that thing telling satellites exactly where in the world you are at any given moment

    o.O

    • Fleurdamour says:

      I just watched Logan's run again – that hand crystal was creepy, esp when the computer advanced Logan 5's four years and wouldn't turn it back.

    • IAmLonefrog says:

      Ultimately our intuitions need to be developed, and I believe that is what's going on here at VC.com. He/She has done a respectable job at bringing individuals to this site en mass. I would atribute that to a humanistic savvy. Anyway, your path to developing said intuition requires a vast amount of differing resources for which you can use to hone your skills to ultimately "see and hear" for yourself. In the humblest of suggestions, I offer the Hopi Blue Star Kachina Prophecy for your discernment. Through my investigations, I see no agenda, other than a desire to inform the "people" of earth.

      Some of the "threads" that this prophecy speaks of will be familiar to those who frequent this site. For example:

      “Many of the children in these times will be unnatural.” –

      http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/dumbing

      "There will be those who will go insane and be heavy in their walk while disconnected from their spirit". –

      How did VC put it? Oh yes……create a nation of zombies.

      http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/liquid-medi

      So for your viewing pleasure….. .http://battleofearth.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/hopi-blue-star-kachina-prophecy/

    • Isabel says:

      you really think you're going to have much of a choice. i bet its going to start off as mandatory for member of the the military and soon it will be mandatory for everyone. kinda like vaccines…..

  6. Mia says:

    If you tell the crowd, many times, that something is great, good, positive, they will eventually believe it.. Even when it's a total lie.

    They want people to think, OH does that make me smarter, healthier? Great let's try..

    and after a few years, they probably are going to make it illegal to NOT do it..

    So we will always be trapped, even more than now..

    He takes 150 pills a day? Is he totally crazy or maybe on to something?

    They want to put all those discusting stuff in our bodys?

    How dare they come up with thisand ofcourse the media doesn't say THIS is something bad no..

    All they talk about is Iran, Irak, Afghanistan and Libia.. AS IF those are the real treaths..

    People should be scared really, but I actually think they admire this and will support it all the way.

  7. AD says:

    yo just imagine running five mile , burning 500 calories and its on ya twitter page instantly….. dats crazy

  8. Fleurdamour says:

    Of course the interview's with the Wall Street Journal, the mouthpiece of the 'elite.' Since everything for them is about business, they probably think the masses should have technical augmentation so we can work harder for them and so they can profit by selling us a service and repair contract for our own bodies. Think about how often your car breaks down, and tell me if you think we should integrate some kind of machine into our living flesh. I think it's insanity and overreaching of the human ego. My friend's mother was killed by a faulty pacemaker that was later recalled – it was supposed to help her and wasn't well-made enough, was probably low bid from some mechanics sweatshop in the developing world. Bad enough to have to take a risk like that to try to correct an ailing body, so why mess around with a healthy one? Plus I don't think I trust anyone to put something into my body without an ulterior motive – machines can be programmed, and it might be just one more way to control everyone.

    • Schadrach says:

      A service and repair contract for our bodies? Isn't that the health care industry and all of the "lifestyle" drugs that treat, but do not cure, a disease.

      • Chambek says:

        Word!

      • DesertStorm says:

        Please watch this movie Repo men, it will explain a lot about leasing body parts to the public and if you dont pay up, they'll repossess it like how they do with cars. Another movie is the Gamer, how nanotechnology can make them have total control of people.

  9. AD says:

    dat movie with bruce willis is basically what this is about……….

  10. kate says:

    his line about downloading an alternate reality "to block out real reality"….was certainly chilling. I have only heard about this Singularity theory through your article and have much to learn but this theory assumes that the world we sense and feel is somehow wrong or flawed and that this technology is going to happy without much input from the general public.

    I also thought it was a cheap tactic for the interviewer to pull out the "sex" drawcard. Making it sexy to 'tune in, turn on and drop out'

    Plus.. anyone else think he was sending some hand signals???!

  11. Montana says:

    "We will be in a rich augmented reality environnement, going to fantastic virtual reality that block out real reality."

    Now that right there is some scary matrix shit…

    For real…

  12. Peep The Game says:

    Because he is on the WSJ; Because he throws in some jargon; because he name drops people somehow makes it credible?

    2029 Man and Machine will merge? Micro Processors will fit into our blood cells? Little computers in our brains can switch on and off depending on the virtual reality we wish to enter?

    Does this man sound sane?

    The human brain is the most powerful instrument in the world; we use less than 10% – people like Kurzweil are an Illuminati mouthpiece constantly reminding us that we are defected and he and his ilk have the answers – this is no different from Glossy Magazines reminding women of their defects. Do not listen to his nonsense you are amazing as you are!!!

  13. Ben says:

    Phew. Like Kurzweil, I'm mindful that this could be dangerous if in the wrong hands; thank goodness he's developing it with the Pentagon where it will be used to spread peace and joy all over the world.

  14. Summerlyn says:

    This is the thing tho, in 100 years every peson living on this planet will be dead. This man speaks of a timeframe when he wont even be here. Come on now, who really wants to live forever on this funky planet. That means you will have an electric bill for the rest of your life causing us to have to work forever. Only God offers eturnity… We were not created for this world, and thats why we die. Everything around us can possibly kill us. They are just tying to find a way to get our money forever, as if a 30 year morage plan isnt long enough.

    • Magda says:

      Everyones worried about machines and aliens.

      Does nobody else think that we ARE the aliens?

      Before the meteorite hit earth, the world was populated by dinosaurs. Man evolved, as did many other species, AFTER the meteorite hit, which means that the matter that the meteorite brought from elsewhere, is what interacted with earths environment to eventually create us. If this IS true, then we ARE alien matter. The rightful inhabitants of earth were the dinosaurs, reptiles and fish. Everything else is alien matter transported from elsewhere. In which case, why are we ourselves afraid of aliens and the unknown? We are quite possibly the unknown we are afraid of.

  15. Ray, get the terror dome, I got my bio-engineered face on methadone, and I'm about to blow up some some proverbial catacombs.

    Look and see its already been set in stone, Ghost in the Shell, complex yet my singularity? Neo to Trinity, ask the Matrix if its ready to read, scan the past and see the eulogy, you've already created the possibility…

    Stand alone within the Duplex, Major. This is not for the simpletons and their stature, its for those who understand the nomenclature, and the 'exact' configure-meant of their own nature.

    Nurture the masses through subliminal passes, this video is engulfing the rest of your theoretical gases, that is your hot air tempered shouts of "Blasphemous!"

    Oh man, the game is so far coordinated, you'd think loan sharks are data-chipping your thoughts or something. Oh wait, you realized you are in the jaws of "death" ? Pray because it makes a difference, have faith Citizen Cain, you are still enabled at every intersection of your adjusted blueprint.

    Singularity.

    • Sofia says:

      What music do I rap that to? :) I totally hear this under Lauren Hills "Lost ones" rhythm.

      • M(r)s. Sofia,

        You may rap the beat to Ms. Hill or to the beat of your own drummer, as long as the Minuteman is to your own nature. I usually toot my own horn to the tune of my Love's harmonica, just because the fauna falls in rhythm with soothing trauma…

        Wouldn't you agree?

        Now with that said, and seeing that this message will be read, let's invest in further upgrades, that is to say that parallel growths are like phase-computations of our modern day.

        History doesn't repeat itself but actually completes with each momentous spree of experiential calculations if you understand my comparative programming.

        Now, if your brain circuitry matches the synapses within your screen, is there a metaphor within the hard drives, so to speak? CD-Drive to my Daemon tools, I'm going to rewrite this for you.

        C= See D = Dee? Seedy Drive… I'm just joking, I'm just searching, and here we have our problems as we google all of this information.

  16. Summerlyn says:

    oh and it's not true that we only use 10% of our brain. We as mothers know this can not be true. How many times have you talked on the phone while cooking, chewing gum, walking and even thinking about what you have to do next? The person that came up with this statement use this as a reason because "he" was getting his info from wicked one and wanted to make everyone else to seem to be dumb. In fact when "he" stated this 10% thing there wasnt even a way to measure brain activity. These folks are still seeking to eat from the tree of knowledge in which does nothing for them. Knowing something of no real importance is like knowing nothing of it at all….

    • WOW says:

      Summerlyn , i'm sure your 0 years of schooling after high school and your stay at home mom watching soap's gives you more knowledge than the pro's, your right we do use 100% of our brains because after all you are a mother, we all know how hard it is to throw in the towel.

      • Chambek says:

        Yeah because 10% is such a specific number that OBVIOUSLY is tge result of anylizrd data. She's got a point. Were not impressed with her gum chewing skills, but I believ that at least a majority of our brain potential remains untapped. But 10%? stupid!

    • lank says:

      actually she's right that 10% crap is a common myth made up doctors discredited that. we use all of our brain but at different times, like how a computer has different functions but you cant access and utilize all of the functions at once because different parts of our brains serve different functions

  17. Kwasi says:

    Ok this is crazy!! Damn but there will be more!!! Hmmmmmm

  18. Andrew says:

    This does indeed sound similar to the "mark" and will probably be incorporated into the RFID cashless ID/finance chip, because remember it must be required to "buy and sell". Also, everything he said keeps very well with things the elites like Rockefeller and Zbignew have been saying for years that the coming age is going to be designed for a "new man" a smarter man, anyone who rejects the new ways won't be able to compete in the workplace or any field with the "new man" and will be weeded out of society by social darwinism if not forcefully exterminated. Seems as though their plan is coming along quite nicely and being met with unmitigated success, lock-step with the grand design…

    • LVB says:

      Yep, I couldn't really have said it better myself, Andrew.

      People are already so dependent and addicted to technology by now that the desensitizing doesn't really have far to go at all…the Beast will be accepted and welcomed by so many, probably not even one generation away. Children growing up soon just simply won't know (or be taught) the difference, or have any idea why it could be wrong to have constant surveillance and zero privacy.

      There will be stiff resistance, though, at least at first…which will bring the brutal crackdown and some serious depopulation, I would guess.

      • joanna says:

        @LVB

        The biggest depopulation will be through war, and the so called "elite" will profit from both sides and many young men will die. If you sign you name away for the Army you are working for a Private Company and your job is too protect their profits……. i really hope young guys/women start waking up to this as without Armies there can be no war, no war equal no profits, with the biggest bonus no deaths.

        God Bless

  19. WOW says:

    You guys are fn delusional, what is the matter with you people. It's funny how most of you are christians that talk about everyone going to hell, get a life

  20. visualiza says:

    this guy was in nas's first album he was in a music video with biggie smalls and jay z in jay z's song called dead presidents he was in a rap group called the firm with nas anyway jay z became rich n famous so did nas and biggie but az never did his a great rapper but i think this is why he never made it big check it out he wrote the whole song but he only spits the last verse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7CPrTvQdVI

  21. rawr says:

    The advancement of technology is inevitable.

    The best thing you can do is to understand the technology rather than reject it.

  22. Sarah Connor says:

    Singularity – "the merging of man & machine in the area of nanotech, and biotech" says man with hideous rainbow tie.

    Nanotechnology has already been unleashed on us in a number of ways, unknowingly, or at the least, without consent! My personal fav – death dumps, so you can see them coming.
    http://aircrap.org/proof-of-morgellons-fibers-in-
    *23 out of 35 adults and 3 out of 4 children positive for nano fibers

    *these fibers respond to frequencies, electromagnetic ones. Let’s hope none of our friendly governments decide to let loose a frequency that awakes these horrors.

    http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstranges… – some of them look like little nanodevils

    Seeing our depopulation czar Bill Gates smirking with such an invested interest at 2:44 was a special treat for me!!!

  23. Grannyrocker says:

    Imagine if those illuminati folks, whose robotic minds are all over the place and suffer from multiple personality disorder, have set up internet sites and blogs to forward folks’ IPs to their clan to have us persecuted in the near future. Everything is plausible!!!!!

  24. LVB says:

    This is an excellent video that someone kindly passed along to me. It's long, but packed with info that I think most of you will appreciate…some that I had never even heard before re: sacred geometry, which is really the basis for all technology.

    http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/06/RIR-

  25. Alex Kahn says:

    I can agree and disagree with arguments made by this guy.

    No doubt the human brain is one of the most powerful 'machines' knwon to man. But the human brain plus 2 billion nano-scale quantum computers? we'd have immense cumputing power in both out concious and unconcious states. We'd all be world class scientists. everything would be possible, from the person coming from a working class background to the upper class snob.

    I dont think Ray Kurzweil is talking about the type of transhumanism that is fundamentally wrong, like cutting off a perfectlygood arm/leg/hand/foot or cutting out a perfectly good organ so you can have a mechanical one, i think he's talking more about augmenting what we've already got.

    Like using nanomachines to help, not replace, the immune system to help battle diseases that the immune system on its own cant handle, like cancer and HIV/AIDS, or as a detection system that forces the blood cells to defend the body which would stop diseases like AIDS in its tracks.

    Nano machines could also use stem cells from our own body to re-grow lost or damaged body parts by reading our DNA. Nanomachines could eradicate defective genes like parkinsons and huntingtons etc, without having to wait for evolution to do it for us.

    No need for vaccines, the nano machines are on the job. Hospitals? a thing of the past. Poisenous drugs? GONE!

    However, like he said, technology is a double edged sword. It would only take one group of evil individuals to twist this technology and make it into deadly weapons or infect this technology with tiny trackers ot machines that could force ideas upon the individual.

    The technology itself, in this case, isnt evil or wrong or unethical (like the transhumanists who want everything to be 100% mechanical), its the way its used or interpereted that makes it wrong. If used wisely, i can see us all been superhuman whilst retaining, 100%, our humanity. However, if used in the way it wasnt intended aka for evil purposes, we could all become controlled slaves.

    • LVB says:

      You do make some good points, but only on the surface…because it's not rocket science to figure out who has CONTROL of how the technology will be used, and abused – the wealthy elite ruling class, as always.

      The control the money, the oil, the food, the mass media and communications….what makes any reasonable person foolishly think that they will magically somehow realize the error of their ways and suddenly only use nanotech or other forms of transhumanist technology for benevolent and wonderful reasons to help humanity??

      I mean, seriously…you don't trust them with the world's financial system or food supply, but you'd trust them with putting a microchip or nanoparticles in your own freakin brain? Really???

      Come on, man!!!

      • face in the crowd says:

        EXACTLY I second this sentiment exactly. Not to mention the idea that the human immune system WILL evolve incrementally and over long periods of time! as a direct result of the introduction, be it gradual or not! how stupid and egotistical, to assume the human condition wont reject the interference

  26. Alex Kahn says:

    sorry for double post but i forgot to add some stuff to my original post:

    However, i'm not wuite sure what he way trying to say about augmented reality….

    that sounds a little too, emphasis on too, sci fi to be reality within the next few hundred years….

  27. Infamous AvantGairde says:

    lol wth is going on here?

    Do I really bother you that bad? The immaturity is nice.Its a nice look too.

    What are you so afraid of? Truth?

    I gotta finish this up…

  28. Sofia says:

    Such thoughts are a result of inferiority complexes and physical shortcomings…the quest of an incomplete man to becoming a superman. Somehow I feel if he looked like this guy http://superstarmagazine.com/images/uploads/2011/… those thoughts would disappear.

  29. yenne says:

    hey vigilant can you do an article on 2ne1 they have a new song called i am the best but i see my favorite group turning into mindless puppets in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7_lSP8Vc3o&fe… =( so many horns and stuff =(

  30. severalminds says:

    is better to die instead of becoming a robot. Whatever would happen to humanity, will be just the result of the choices done by the humanity…choose the good, you'lll end good, choose the evil, you'lll end bad…just logics. I hope, there will arrive the day when all the nazi politics and scientists will be judged and hang up for their crimes against humanity with all their mad ideas such as cloning, robotism, transhumanism, depopulation etc. all uncovered, exposed totally for what they are actually. I wish, i'd see that judgement day personally…

  31. zmokedog says:

    Fear of being taken over by machines is the epitome of paranoia.

    • Fleurdamour says:

      I don't think it is a fear of being taken over by machines – I think it's a fear of what other people would do with the machines.

  32. WHITEKNIGHT says:

    I'm sorry. I don't want to sound stupid, but why are people against Transhumanism? Is it because you believe that it will be used by the Illuminati? Or is it something else?

    • Fleurdamour says:

      Do you want a metal implant in your brain, or to have a limb removed and replaced with something mechanical? 'Cause I sure don't.

    • LVB says:

      Here's the simple answer to your question as I see it, quoted from an article I wrote awhile back:

      "The rich and powerful will control the flow and availability of technological advancements – medical and otherwise – and that, in and of itself, will leave the overwhelming majority of the rest of us on the outside looking in, able only to envy and dream of having the magnificent toys and medical advancements available to the wealthy, elite ruling class.

      You can be sure that they won't be shedding any tears over how unfair it is for the rest of us."

      That was written in the context of reviewing the film "Repo Men", which I highly recommend, if you haven't seen it. And here's the article, if you're curious…

      http://lvb-research.blogspot.com/2011/01/repo-men

  33. Hospitalized says:

    No plans to eradicate suffering and poverty so far by providing the very basics needed in life such as food, clothes and lodgings. Transhumanism is my main concern because I was born with a damn chip on my shoulder and have an inferiority complex. Man falls into the fantasies of a superiority complex in order to destroy his inferiority complex.

    I rest my case since it's certified that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

  34. Seen says:

    Something tells me that the Singularity isn't what this guy is making it out to be.

    Depopulation is technically already in the process:

    1). Body-Scanners, the TSA uses, is becoming mainstream that they create cancerous cells via its radiation level kinda like an X-Ray, and there's no telling when it'll become evident those who use them frequently essentially become sterile especially men.

    2). Globalization, tax-loopholes for industries moving overseas, interconnectedness, and other are effectively bringing about a shift in the global balance of power. If you take out the account gimmicking:

    The US, UK, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Venexuela, Germany, France, Russia, China, Pakistan, Iran, and North Korea (the earthquake/tsunami/nuclear power plant disaster effectively knocked Japan out, and I haven't been able to find links between Cuba and Russo-Sino yet) are all roughly even. Welcome to the new multipolar era, things are likely to get interesting.

    As far as wars goes for depopulation, we are in an era of balance of power geopolitics.

    The question is which comes first; the conflict or nations sacirificing its sovereignty and military to the Global Government. Probably either or.

    • Magda says:

      One minute everybodies talking about overpopulation and the next about depopulation. The point is, we do need SOME kind of population control. People talk about needing to kill foxes, rats or wasps because they are pests but so are human beings. Just because human beings have brains and the potential to do great things, doesn't mean that a great deal are not just pests, leaches and piranhas who contribute nothing whilst taking everything. We hunt foxes, kill wasps with spray and get our cats to chew up rodents – why do we feel we should cull animal species when they get 'out of hand' but not the human species? THE most destructive influence on earth right now.

      Now I don't want to cull people, but I just wonder what people really want here. If we accept that overpopulation is a bad thing because of the shortage of jobs, hospitable locations, healthy food, vaccines etc that would be available and so on, then surely we need to find a solution. If we are afraid of depopulation, then we need a solution there too.

      All I know is: people are living longer, healthier life's as much as we are told everyone is getting fatter, drugger and more doped up. One day we are told people aren't having enough babies, the next, people are having too many.

      I don't understand exactly whether overpopulation is really as bad as everyone is making out. If it is, people will naturally cull one another through war, cabin fever, disease, famine, poverty etc.

  35. Godozo says:

    Kurzweil is fixated on having his father being reincarnated.

    He may be a genius and able to keep ahead of the curve, but he's lost his mind. When other people talk about this singularity I'll pay close attention.

  36. Brandon says:

    Well since I'm barely 14 I've always wanted to grow up and reach my goal (musician) and I swore I wouldn't let anything stop me.

    But since I'll probably be around for the NWO (if it evens happen), like a star I won't go out without a bang. Even if I do something small like punching one of these 'elites' in the face.

    Heh..whatever…I'm just a kid with my crazy ideas…

  37. face in the crowd says:

    3:30 he is essentially admitting there is selective intent to protect or rather safeguard the "overseer" slash elite knowledge-holder of science from the effects of his science-yea.Ialready.knew.this. so he then suggests large concentrations of public ignorance to alternative lifestyles, health and welness. gee, I wonder why he doesnt address potential legal issues in terms of ethics? hmm. dont be afraid of someone who is just as afraid if not more so. I'd say this guy is afraid of no one chanting his name in 40 years. sucks for him. at some point, the PIC will have to fight for the direction of science, I bet my own life on it

    6:06 I am bored with him, at his insignificance in terms of the biosphere, he has no authority on science's existence in 2040 "if you were in that virtual environment" I had to think this guy is a complete flesh case…what if people would rather accept the fact death and solitude occur as does the experience of life, thus are ok to accept natural biological function and prefer it over biological nanotechnological treatment for their dis ease? this crypt-keeper is a total front, I don't care if he is university affiliated and working for Air Force.

    then the animal nanotechnology experimentation comments he makes MAKE ME want to place him in his coffin already, complete with stake in heart, I don't give a shit, old news is his babbled pretentious admission on privately funded experiments on how nanotechnology can hijack a vertebrates bodies electrical currents…he babbles on and on and on "we create human knowlegde" WRONG we process nature, as a direct result the rate of our processinging CHANGES not necessarily speeding up….our environment provides us knowledge, we don't "create human knowledge" yes check this guys pockets!!!! this guy is not a representative of the direction of science and peoples lifestyles…two things so powerful they can be used to improve our human condition or not….resulting in destruction. by a souce much larger than our broadcast speculations and hidden admissions. fuck this guy. seriously.

    I might be few and far between but I would rather take my lumps than be out possibly my live savings paying for a treatment or lifestyle choice that is not, will never be, a guarentee.

    he is at the table, so am I, dealers here too…are you in? lets see a robot play the game of life and death

  38. face in the crowd says:

    I hope peter singer doesnt/didnt sell out, just a side thought I had just now…they will introduce the necesssary percursory nanotechnologic research it to our food first, if they have not already. chemicals and hormones and cells I know of but no source they are already performing this research yet, last I read nanotechnology was teleporting electrons,,,no real word on chips in blood cells…anyone have information on this?

    also, author, good job. we adults are not here to be "addressed" by this mans megalomania

  39. face in the crowd says:

    Ugh just makes me so DISGUSTED

  40. severalminds says:

    is kurzweil hebrew as einstein?…it is a kind of curious coincidence…they say hitler was of hebrew origins (rothschild?), his bank friends/sponsors were hebrews, then most of his scientists were hebrews later transferred to americas and russia to be used by the "winners" continuing the work of sick illuminati plan, newton was hebrew, nobel was so. Rockfeller, Rotschild, Sarkozy, Lenin (mother was hebrew from Germany), and so on….

    finally, Jesus was hebrew. I wish all the others were like Jesus…instead.

    • Hill says:

      You're funny..u can tell he's Jew, his surname speaks volumes..don't despair though, there are some normal rational Jews.

  41. nameless says:

    I suggest everyone here watch the documentary "the transcendent man"

    look up the trailer on youtube and see if it interests you

    it has to do with all the cyborg technology thats going to be coming very shortly

    also, i think you can watch it online for free just do a quick google search

  42. Mr. Salty says:

    I love how everyone bellyaches about the "Singularity" on a forum where you interact with humans via a machine.

    The NWO is 50 years ahead of all of us…we're ALREADY enslaved but your primitive reptile brains seem to think you can fight it.

    Keep typing away oh great lemmings of the digital frontier!! Meanwhile the NWO celebrates your inability to do anything but mind numbingly read information from the current internet singularity and drool special sauce onto your iPads.

    They've taken much greater action than just "googling". You're all lost and confused and unable to take the necessary steps — the necessary ACTION (which is NOT typing away your bible verses and speculative mumbo jumbo) to keep them out of your life.

    You've been bought and sold already people. You're just to scared to realize the bigger picture of the world around you: They've won, we've lost. Time to rethink the whole scenario.

    • starface says:

      It is prophecy and unfortunately these things have to happen. Just recently, I watched the history channel about Hitler and the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. I was amazed at how Hitler controlled every facet of a German's life with fear. Watching this program made me realize the Anti-Christ will have so much more HORRIBLE mechanisms of control at his disposal. He will make Hitler seem like childs play.

      But in the end, God will be victorious!!! I am so greatful to VC and Infowars.com which has brought about an awareness of MANY "hidden agendas". That knowledge has caused me to appreciate life and not take anything for granted because life as we know it, WILL change happen at any given moment.

  43. Seen says:

    "I love how everyone bellyaches about the “Singularity” on a forum where you interact with humans via a machine."

    Mr. Salty, I am given to understand that dreams play a role in the occult, and I am given to understand that there are theories involving "Kardashev scale", a scale of civilization type in leiu to an interstellar prospective. Then, there is the LHC Collider/CERN. Here there are three topics that coincidently correlate. If you believe in coincidents, I envy you, but I don't.

    As I said 'something tells me that the Singularity is not what this guy makes it out to be'.

    Please allow me to connect the correlation in children's form and unabridged, the Singularity is a tremendous energy source (Rosy, helpful to humanity, and highly beneficial, and it also happens to up us to Type 1 more or less). Then, there's the unabridged; the Singularity is more powerful than nuclear weapons. As the old sang goes, 'play with fire, you're liable to get burned.'

    If you're right, we simply get our purty nanotech kill/control switch aka Collectivism. If I'm right, we're attempting to harness the powering mechanism to nova/supernova referred to as also the Singularity, which is quite interesting. Coincidence?

    "The NWO is 50 years ahead of all of us…we’re ALREADY enslaved but your primitive reptile brains seem to think you can fight it."

    It is, and we are?

    If that was true, we would already be being actively and formally exterminated to a more perpetual balance with nature as described by the reference to Pike from the Georgia Guidestones via 'the Age of Reason'.

    We also would already be in a purely cashless society that would simply shut off the microchip/card and so much more.

    No, we're not totally enslaved yet with no real way out. At the moment, we look like an affait accompli because the moment we stop willful helpnesses and violence begets violence conditioning; martial law will most likely be declared. This is aka social conditioning of social proof.

    "They’ve taken much greater action than just “googling”. You’re all lost and confused and unable to take the necessary steps — the necessary ACTION (which is NOT typing away your bible verses and speculative mumbo jumbo) to keep them out of your life."

    You're ignoring that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Part of action is knowing when inaction is the best action, and then, there's the conditioning of social proof to consider:

    A). Social Proof

    B). Violence solves nothing and only begets more violence, which also happens to encompass all forms of violence including self-defense.

    Your wish for a frontal assault in this present situation will simply force corrupt politicians to install martial law, and social proof is conditioned to mostly allow it to occur. Nevermind, NWO aims is essentially internalizing war against its own population after all the global government would be depopulating its own population.

    "You’ve been bought and sold already people. You’re just to scared to realize the bigger picture of the world around you: They’ve won, we’ve lost. Time to rethink the whole scenario."

    NWO is in the process of being installed, but it's not unreversible. At least, it isn't yet.

    • joanna says:

      @ Seen

      You are correct to a point. Never underestimate the human and Holy spirit. No amount of planning by so few could match real love and empathy. The battle will be tried but the real winner's will shine through.

      God Bless

  44. terzm says:

    Evil. They think a fking machine that man makes is better than God? What a nightmare.

  45. Mr. Salty says:

    @ Seen:

    Look — I don't like it any more than anyone else, but I'm a glass half empty kind of guy and you can see the writing on the wall already. The United States will be the last to fall in line is all. But we are brother…we are. Slowly AND surely.

    Inaction is no longer a viable option. By the time people decide to take any action it will be much too late by your scenario. By my view of the world, it's ALREADY too late.

    After all, just like everyone else who spouts out dime store philosophical opinions on a website, I'm an individual capable of doing anything my mind is set on — but right after I finish downloading my current playlist of iTunes, watching Dancing with the Stars, cowering in the face of the latest Lady GaGa "symbols", and oh I forgot — getting in a little face time with the latest Call of Duty so I can PRETEND I'm a fighter. Not to mention log on and reply to more and more useless philosopy of "inaction is the best action" nonsense.

    After all that I promise to wake up and do something about the oppression of the NWO…sheesh.

    Let's take a moment to refresh ourselves on the NWO's main purposes, most significantly the Illuminati's main goals as established by Weishaupt in Bavaria mid 18th century:

    THE 25 ILLUMINATI GOALS:

    1. "All men are more easily inclined towards evil than good." — Yep. That one's been handled.

    2. "Preach Liberalism" — Yep. Check. Big time.

    3. "Use the idea of freedom to bring about class wars." — Hell this one was accomplised long ago. Plus all you have to do is look around this great nation of ours to see the class wars in full gear still. Just ask those teachers in Wisconsin how they're enjoying them pay cuts. Check.

    4. "Any and all means should be used to reach the Illuminati Goals as they are justified." — Ongoing…but safe to say under control.

    5. "The right to lie in force." — Yep. Countless wars for "democratic" purposes fueled by corrupt political leaders when all it is is a cash grab, land grab, resource grab…Check. And that's only ONE lie we are told every single day. Hell you can even consider VC is lying to you since by certain standards these "evil" symbols we're always listening to him talk about once stood for good and decent things. Or is that too a lie? Hmmmm….

    6. "The power of our resources must remain invisible until the very moment it has gained the strength that no cunning or force can undermine it." — Henry Kissinger convincing Nixon to open China and usher in the first recognizable facet of globalism and then announcing it everywhere…Check.

    7. "Avocation of mob psychology to control the masses." — Protests, protests, everywhere and not a single viable solution for the individual to quench it's thirst. Check.

    8. "Use alcohol, drugs, corruption and all forms of vice to systematically corrupt the youth of the nation." — Christ I don't even have to go into detail on this one do I? Juniors a bit too imaginative and hyper? Give him this pill. Big Check.

    9. "Seize property by any means." — Here at home we have imminent domain. Abroad we have Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Japan, Korea, England, Germany, pretty soon Libya…the list of countries we occupy with military bases goes on and on. Check.

    10. "Use of slogans such as equity, liberty, fraternity delivered into the mouths of the masses in psychological warfare." — Well shit fire and save matches! They've even infiltrated this precious place too! Yay…Liberty and Freedom are beautiful concepts — but they're still only concepts. Don't pay your property taxes and tell me how free you really are and how much liberty truly weighs. Check.

    11. "War should be directed so that the nations on both sides are placed further in debt and peace conferences conducted so that neither combatant obtains territory rights." — WWII our countrymen financed both sides. Another example would be the rediculous "peace" talks every other week it seems with Israel and the Palestinians…Check.

    12. "Members must use their wealth to have candidates chosen and placed in public office who will be obedient to their demands and will be used as pawns in the game by those behind the scenes. Their advisors will have been reared and trained from childhood to rule the affairs of the world." — Done and done for a looooooong time. Check.

    13. "Control the press." — Gotta love that Glen Beck & Ed Schultz…two faces of the same worthless coin. Also I'm so glad CNN showed me viral video of a kitty cat that barks like a dog. It was so cute and took my mind off of all that scaaaaary economic and middle east war news. Check.

    14. "Agents will come forward after fermenting traumatic situations and appear to be the saviors of the masses." — 9/11 Anyone? Their best operation yet. And that's just one of many throughout history. My money is still on the American Revolution being the best…but hey, I'm old school. Check.

    15. "Create industrial depression and financial panic, unemployment, hunger, shortage of food and use this to control the masses or mob and then use the mob to wipe out all those who stand in the way." — Going on across the globe as we type these worthless comments. But as soon as we get tossed our crumbs, the "Olivers" who say "Please sir, may I have some more" will get their heads cut by the same people who stood with them. Check.

    16. "Infiltrate into the secret Freemasons to use them for Illuminati purposes." — Freemasons used to stand tall in their communities back in the age of reason…now they are the butt of every conspiracy joke. Check.

    17. "Expound the value of systematic deception, use high sounding slogans and phrases and advocate lavish promises to the masses even though they cannot be kept." — Ra Ra ooh La La…Ra Ra ooh Ga Ga, I'm in a bad romance my little monsters!! But at least I can count on Hope and Change eh? In God I'll Trust. Check.

    18. "Detail plans for resolutions, discuss the art of street fighting which is necessary to bring the population into speedy subjection." — Greece is the word. It's got groove, it's got feeling. At least the latest in a long line of Checks.

    19. "Use agents as advisors behind the scenes after wars and use secret diplomacy to gain control." — Brezinsky comes to mind. As does that idiot embassador to Iraq and Afghanistan that was with Patreus during the Troop Surge hearings….I forget his name since he is just another in a long list. Check.

    20. "Establish huge monopolies that lean toward world government control." — Well shoot…VC just did an article on this one with the fact that only about 10 brand names control ALL of our consumer products. Gotta love that freedom of choice thing huh? Check.

    21. "Use high taxes and unfair competition to bring about economic ruin by control of raw materials. Organize agitation among the workers and subsidize their competitors." — OPEC anyone? Check.

    22. "Build up armaments with Police forces and Soldiers sufficient to protect our needs." — I don't even have to bother with examples for this one. Go to the mall in your own home towns and see it in effect. Check.

    23. "Members and leaders of the one world government would be appointed by the directors." — This one either…Check.

    24. "Infiltrate into all classes and levels of society and government for the purpose of fooling, bemusing and corrupting the youthful members of society by teaching them theories and principles that we know to be false." — Even your congressman won't know the difference between GaGa, Britney, and Beyonce'…that front was covered long ago. Shit as early as Mozart…At least we can count on our schools to teach young people about history and the constitution right? RIGHT? They're too busy teaching songs to sing to our glorious leader. Whoops…Check.

    25. "National and International laws should be used to destroy civilization and enslave and control the people." — For Freedom!! For Democracy!! Let me hear you shout to the heavens!!! Just don't shout too loud or you'll get a truncheon to the skull because of some statute circumventing your god given rights to shout it. Yep. Check.

    So as you can tell — I'm a bit cynical about the whole "inaction is the best action" thing. Philosophy doesn't work either. Forgive me for saying we're beat…but we at least had fun getting here right?

    And now even action can't be taken. If it were to be done, you would be branded a mental case by the media…called a Monarch controlled slave by alternative media…branded a traitor by the government and unfit to stand trial by the courts. Shipped off under laws of Rendition, put away for life eating prozac and thorazine, or executed by the state.

    So see? There is NO solution but to go along to get along. Face it. It's over and it's BEEN over for some time. For all you bible thumpers out there I'll put it even more succinctly: We have entered the Age of Sorrows that crazy Johnny wrote about in Revelation. Guess he wasn't so crazy after all.

    And as for systemic executions carried out by the NWO — how about GMO foods and preservatives and processed crap that lab rats won't even eat being fed to us all over the world making us fat, stupid, lazy, diabetes ridden, heart attacks waiting to happen. It ain't called a food "pyramid" for nothin' brother.

    Execution comes in many forms my friend.

    As for microchips and RFID "cashless" societies — what do you think that lump is under your pet's fur after you bring him home from the vet is? Your kid hasn't isn't home and it's past your curfew and you want to track his whereabouts through their cell phone that's rotting out their young devoloping brain with EMF? Why, there's an App for that!!

    What do you think Garmin does for a living? Why do you think it's in your car? Why do you think I can now pay my bills online or scan my iPhone against a cash register at Target? Because it's the "cool" thing I can now do with my endless array of useless gadgety crap?

    These victories of theirs will not be in your face…they will be subtle. And it's already working. Has worked. Will continue to work. Welcome to the Brave New World Seen…but it was probably already here by the time you arrived anyway.

    Insane rant over I guess. Back to Call of Duty.

    • joanna says:

      Mr. Salty

      I hear you brother.

      God Bless

    • Fleurdamour says:

      I would change #2 to "Preach conservatism."

    • jrs says:

      you write that you agree with ole Johnny in Revelation… so why are you so down?

      are you on the losing side?

      we Bible thumpers have known about the details of this battle for a loooooooong, long time.

      and we Bible thumpers have always known who wins.

      it is exciting for us Bible thumpers to actually be witnesses Bible prophecy coming true before our very eyes.

      Psalms 118:23 This is the LORD'S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.

      there has never been a way for us to stop it, that is why we have a guide book.

      God has been, is, and will always be in control.

      Amen and Hallelujah!!

      :D~~~

    • Xanterra says:

      I love this guy :) He talks well. I still have hope though!!!

  46. Candle of the Meteor says:

    You guys should watch Neon Genesis Evangelion. It deals with all the bad sides of trans-humanism and has a lot of religious symbolism and even deals with societies with the Illuminati. He didn't specifically state it, but the numerous All Seeing Eyes and symbols that litter the secret rooms of the elite organizations in the show make it quite obvious who he is talking about. Great anime, though. It really dives into the psychology of people.

  47. miss B says:

    Children who are born this year will be turning 18 in the year 2029…if you consider how many songs and games and programs they will watch as they grow up showing them how humans and robots interact as friends…and how the transhumanist agenda is being pushed to desensitize the up-coming youth…I wouldn't be surprised if the youth of 2029 were willing to insert computer technology into their brains etc… they'll be more willing because they'll think its normal…whereas our generation is still a bit more sceptical. There is no way in hell I'd ever insert any chip or any part of a computer/software into my body…it's just wierd!! I sincerely hope that people will be more sensible and willing to use their own beautiful God-given brains than the intellect of a computer. How boring the world will be if everyone is able to think in the same way…no more intellectual discussions or trying to finish a book to expand one's knowledge. Its so sad. Especially in light of the fact that we don't even nearly use our entire brain in our life-time.

    • Magda says:

      But that's the point.

      Children grow on what they are raised on. It's like the 'you are what you eat scenario'.

      If you feed your child burgers, they will want burgers.

      If you sit your kid in front of a TV all their life, they might just stay there.

      If you make your children healthy food, they will develop good eating habits.

      If you go cycling with your kids or play football with them, they might just stick at sports.

      Your childhood memories are powerful. I love books and I know I love them because my mum read to me EVERY night. SHE fostered the interest. If she didn't do that, I might never have looked at a book. Children are impressionable and curious. If you get them curious about the RIGHT things, they might grow up to never leave those things behind.

      I never had a phone or an ipod as a kid, but I had a cd player and I had a games console, so I had just the 'right' balance of technology I'd say. My parents always took us out every day. We got to watch movies and tv, but we always were out doing something and having fun.

      Some of you sound like you've already given up on future generations. You just kind of expect that they won't amount to anything and there's no hope for them.

      I reiterate…without preaching, without force, without threat, without scaremongering, foster your childrens free will and interests, get them curious about learning and the world. Don't put them in a box, don't treat them like dollies – teach them, show them, let them learn. Children take in the good AND the bad. Give up on children now and its you to blame, not them, for what they turn into.

      There are always children strong enough to turn away from the crowd and peer pressure, if you raise them to know who they are.

  48. Bizzle says:

    Man the though of being merged with a machine makes me cringe…in someways these ideas are revolutionary, only problem is they Completely defy God. wont go into that so much. But with the creation of alternate realities and virtual worlds and virtual experiences that feel so real that the difference between whats real and whats not is indistinguishable can only lead down one road…for lack of a better term…the Matrix..

    Please dont call me a hack from throwing out that cliched matrix reference…its all I could think of :)

    • Candle of the Meteor says:

      See, the problem is that there will always be parties there to abuse the technology. Computers and electronics in the body could do wonders for the sick and disabled, the thing is that corporations will use this as a front to use the citizens as guinea pigs.

  49. Gerard says:

    Ghost In The Shell, I'm telling you.

  50. Andrew says:

    The only thing robots are going to do is make the world overweight, to basically the point to where we are going to live until we are 40. Haven't you seen the movie Walle?

  51. Dadn says:

    Remember reading Ron Hubbard book, called something like: 'Have you live your life before', which is actually memories of people who were recalling their past lives. Some of them remember living as robots, machines…

    This means, this human-robot-machine technology combination did exist and coming back at one point again.

  52. lady says:

    This guy is essentially telling it like it is. This technology is comming weather we like it or not. All we can do is hope for the best stay alive and try to keep our children healthy. Right now women stick bags of plastic in their chest filled with salt water for vanity's sake and there are risks involved in that but people are still going to do that; infact more and more people are going to get plastic surgery and more and more people in the future are going to tamper with this technology. Our children will make transhumanisum the new fad and they may in turn lose their free will. Anything that tampers with my brain count me out. Yes it may make my brain function with a higher percentage but who gives us the programming? Can you trust the software? Who will sell us this technology? Do you get a free labotomy with every purchase? We have all these outside forces trying to complicate our inner workings. If we concentrated on the body we already posess we could naturally evolve and use more than the 15% or whatever the percentage of our brain we're using now. What if we used all 100% of our brain without an outside force? Maybe we should work on natural ways to evolve instead of damning ourselves. Fat chance of that happening though.

    • Magda says:

      I agree with your point.

      Plastic surgery is rampant.

      People can get breast implants, nose jobs, change their gender, change pretty much anything.

      People have already accepted false, fake selves to be popular and beautiful because our world now tells us if you aren't beautiful you are nothing. So much so that a naturally beautiful girl will think she is boring because she doesn't have hair extensions, a fake tan and a boob job.

  53. fack says:

    It's obvious, robots are easier to program.

  54. BlackJack says:

    I so don't want to become a machine….if this time ever comes(it won't tho this is all empty talking) i will totally refuse it because this is sick :S god created us the way we are and noone is gonna play God with my body, i have one God and i wont let some stupid human same as i play this sick twisted game :/ But anyway this won't happen in next 100 years believe me people, there will be some weird beta versions but nothing will be safe noone will use it etc. so i don't think we should worry :) i know i am not

  55. Hob says:

    There are some articles on plus ultratech website about the advances in technology, transhumanism and robotic. It's like science ficition coming true

  56. Myles O'Howe says:

    Why are they treating disease with toxic technology?

    Cannabis cures cancer and most diseases! http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9225E5461D

    Research everything, believe nobody, and follow the science.

  57. LOLitsphilip says:

    translation : we're going to implant demons into your brain so you will do what we command.

  58. Sometimes I wonder what the purpose of this website is, and what the motivation of the commentators are. Is it to be cynical and depressed about the future? To destroy what last vestige of hope remains in human souls?

    Many of you claim to despise the "Illuminati Agenda", an agenda that seeks to infuse civilization with despair and fearfulness so that people spend time bickering and jumping at shadows instead of being proactive and productive. Productivity is the best defense against tyranny, yet you won't hear that from an angry mob that somehow hates centralized authority while decrying free enterprise and innovation.

    First Principles are important if you want to form a better model of understanding the universe rather than wallowing in ignorance. I encourage anyone here who is not yet beyond all hope to investigate Austrian Economics, and the likes of Ludwig von Mises, Murray Rothbard, and Frederic Bastiat. These good people knew liberty, and they risked their lives and livelihoods to fight the evils of decadent tyrants long before many of you were even aware of a threat.

    This will probably be my last comment here, and perhaps my last visit. If a search for truth becomes a witch hunt, then it was a futile endeavor before it began.

  59. James says:

    I believe in God

    It is stated in the bible that one day a man of sin will come to power and he will make everyone take a mark rich or poor , small and big so that no one will be able to buy or sell without it.

    I am more convince now more than ever that this will indeed happen sooner than we all imagen.

    My theory is that everyone will be force to take a microchip and since these subjects of integrating technology with man kind is being accepted more and more each day, nobody will be thinking twice or see it strange at all to do something like this.

    Interesting video of humans being portrayed as dummies manufactured …( it's a hair product)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRckJ2ij0N0

  60. reborn says:

    @ Chambek

    I agree with you partially. There are three different Greek or Hebrew words all translated into one word, "hell" in the English Bible, none of which speak about the Hell in the way we think of it. Fire is symbolic and not literal, and most often, the word "forever" or "eternal" are mistranslations which should read "for an age unto an age". Here's where I disagree with you: Fire in scripture is not symbolic of destruction, but of purification; like melting gold by fire to remove the dross and make it pure. So no, there is not a place of literal fire and brimstone in which sinners will spend eternity; there is punishment for sins, purification as through fire, and ultimately restoration back unto God. And this is for everyone…not one will spend eternity in torment.

    This is all actually taught all throughout the Bible, but you have to actually look at what the original Greek and Hebrew said and NOT take it out of context. Our English translation has some errors.

    • M says:

      I think most Christians would disagree with reborn on the whole "not one will spend eternity in torment" thing. If you don't acknowledge Christ as savior in this life, you won't spend eternity with God. Christ is the Glory and reflection of God, and throughout the bible God directs us to bask in.. his Glory (Christ). Also a lot of people (Christians as well) tend to think that "hell" is a lake of fire. The Lake of fire is actually a separate place, and Revelation 20:14 clarifies, "Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death."

      Fire can be both destruction AND purification, we see it in the bible. However whenever there is fire that destructs, it is for the ultimate purpose of righteousness. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by fire because of the great sin there. Abraham and God even had a full on discussion over why this was necessary, and he asked if God would spare the cities if he could find even a few people who were not totally given over to their sins (in other words, a few willing to repent). He tried, and tried again, but couldn't find any besides his own family. So, in this case it was necessary for the ultimate purpose of purification, as one removes a wart from an otherwise flawless hand.

      Not much to do with the topic, but I had to clarify.

  61. M says:

    I used to love a Canadian band called Our Lady Peace. Their fourth album was released in the year 2000. It was called Spiritual Machines and was a conceptual interpretation of Ray Kurzweil's 1999 book The Age of Spiritual Machines. It featured spoken tracks by Ray Kurzweil, and The Kurzweil K250 keyboard, which he invented, was also used throughout the album.

    Interestingly, I thought nothing of it at the time other than the band was playing on the whole Y2K excitement or trying to be super-artistic by going in a "futuristic" direction. I've been following The Vigilent Citizen for several months and loving what I'm learning (to the degree that one can "love" the sad truth of who's running our world), but it wasn't until I read this article that I remembered this entire Our Lady Peace album about machines replacing humanity. Makes me want to check out what the band is into these days, and see what agenda they are after.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kve68FFRjtA