25 years later, how ‘Top Gun’ made America love war

Sep 19th, 2011 | Category: Latest News | 105 comments


Here’s an interesting article from the Washington Post about the heavy influence of the Pentagon on the funding and production of Hollywood movies, making them a little more than propaganda disguised as entertainment.

Americans are souring on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The military budget is under siege as Congress looks for spending to cut. And the Army is reporting record suicide rates among soldiers. So who does the Pentagon enlist for help in such painful circumstances?

Hollywood.

In June, the Army negotiated a first-of-its-kind sponsorship deal with the producers of “X-Men: First Class,” backing it up with ads telling potential recruits that they could live out superhero fantasies on real-life battlefields. Then, in recent days, word leaked that the White House has been working with Oscar-winning director Kathryn Bigelow on an election-year film chronicling the operation that killed Osama bin Laden.

A country questioning its overall military posture, and a military establishment engaging in a counter-campaign for hearts and minds — if this feels like deja vu, that’s because it’s taking place on the 25th anniversary of the release of “Top Gun.”

That Jerry Bruckheimer blockbuster, made in collaboration with the Pentagon, came out in the mid-1980s, when polls showed many Americans expressing doubts about the post-Vietnam military and about the constant saber rattling from the White House. But the movie’s celebration of sweat-shined martial machismo generated $344 million at the box office and proved to be a major force in resuscitating the military’s image.

Not only did enlistment spike when “Top Gun” was released, and not only did the Navy set up recruitment tables at theaters playing the movie, but polls soon showed rising confidence in the military. With Ronald Reagan wrapping military adventurism in the flag, with the armed forces scoring low-risk but high-profile victories in Libya and Grenada, America fell in love with Maverick, Iceman and other high-fivin’ silver-screen super-pilots as they traveled Mach 2 while screaming about “the need for speed.”

Today, “Top Gun” lives on in cable reruns, in the American psyche and, most important, in how it turned the Hollywood-Pentagon relationship into a full-on Mav-Goose bromance that ideologically slants films from their inception.

The 1986 movie, starring Tom Cruise and Kelly McGillis, was the template for a new Military-Entertainment Complex. During production, the Pentagon worked hand-in-hand with the filmmakers, reportedly charging Paramount Pictures just $1.8 million for the use of its warplanes and aircraft carriers. But that taxpayer-subsidized discount came at a price — the filmmakers were required to submit their script to Pentagon brass for meticulous line edits aimed at casting the military in the most positive light. (One example: Time magazine reported that Goose’s death was changed from a midair collision to an ejection scene, because “the Navy complained that too many pilots were crashing.”)

Although “Top Gun” was not the first movie to exchange creative input for Pentagon assistance and resources, its success set that bargain as a standard for other filmmakers, who began deluging the Pentagon with requests for collaboration. By the time the 1991 Persian Gulf War began, Phil Strub, the Pentagon’s liaison to the movie industry, told the Hollywood Reporter that he’d seen a 70 percent increase in the number of requests from filmmakers for assistance — effectively changing the way Hollywood works.

As Mace Neufeld, the producer of the 1990 film “The Hunt for Red October,” later recounted to Variety, studios in the post-“Top Gun” era instituted an unstated rule telling screenwriters and directors to get military cooperation “or forget about making the picture.” Economics drives that directive, Time magazine reported in 1986. “Without such billion-dollar props, producers [have to] spend an inordinate amount of time and money searching for substitutes” and therefore might not be able to make the movie at all, the magazine noted.

Emboldened by Hollywood’s obsequiousness, military officials became increasingly blunt about how they deploy the carrot of subsidized hardware and the stick of denied access to get what they want. Strub described the approval process to Variety in 1994: “The main criteria we use is . . . how could the proposed production benefit the military . . . could it help in recruiting [and] is it in sync with present policy?”

Robert Anderson, the Navy’s Hollywood point person, put it even more clearly to PBS in 2006: “If you want full cooperation from the Navy, we have a considerable amount of power, because it’s our ships, it’s our cooperation, and until the script is in a form that we can approve, then the production doesn’t go forward.”

The result is an entertainment culture rigged to produce relatively few antiwar movies and dozens of blockbusters that glorify the military. For every “Hurt Locker” — a successful and critical war film made without Pentagon assistance — American moviegoers get a flood of pro-war agitprop, from “Armageddon,” to “Pearl Harbor,” to “Battle Los Angeles” to “X-Men.” And save for filmmakers’ obligatory thank you to the Pentagon in the credits, audiences are rarely aware that they may be watching government-subsidized propaganda.

Until this year, this Top Gun Effect seemed set in stone. But a quarter-century after that hagiographic tribute to the military’s “best of the best,” an odd alignment of partisan interests has prompted some in Congress to question the arrangement.

Rep. Peter T. King (R-N.Y.), who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee, recently sent letters to the CIA and the Defense Department demanding an investigation of the upcoming Bin Laden movie. He criticized the practice of granting ideologically compliant filmmakers access to government property and information that he says should be available to all. The “alleged collaboration belies a desire of transparency in favor of a cinematographic view of history,” he argued.

Considering King’s previous silence on such issues, it’s not clear whether he’s standing on principle; more likely, he is trying to prevent a particular piece of propaganda from aiding a political opponent. Yet, even if inadvertent, King’s efforts make possible a broader look at how the U.S. government uses taxpayer resources to suffuse popular culture with militarism.

If and when King holds hearings on the matter, we could finally get to the important questions: Why does the Pentagon treat public hardware as private property? Why does the government grant and deny access to that hardware based on a filmmaker’s willingness to let the Pentagon influence the script? And doesn’t such a practice violate the First Amendment’s prohibition against government abridging freedom of speech?



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105 Comments to “25 years later, how ‘Top Gun’ made America love war”

  1. No surprise here that the government is using propaganda through the media to get soldiers hyped up for war. I feel so bad for those innocent young men who genuinely think they're fighting the good fight. Dying for nothing at such a young age. Brings tears to my eyes sometimes.

    • YAAAS BOO! says:

      I don't feel sorry for them. It just reminds me of the saying 'youth is wasted on the young'.

      • Foyez says:

        Thats a ridiculous thing to say that youth is wasted on the young. There are countless youth out there who are trying to expose this kind of shit that our ancestors have just lain down oblivious to! I dont agree with war, but these people in the army genuinely believe they are fighting for the right causes even if they might not be, lets just hope others dont suffer like those that already have.

      • BRAVELION says:

        As the family member in a military family, with a younger sister

        about to be sent on her THIRD deployment to Afghanistan, I can assure you

        she is very cognizant of reality, (we have many discussions about this kind of

        material and the use of deception and propaganda) and in spite all that she feels

        a sense of DUTY, to defend her country. There is nothing delusional or stupid

        in that whatsoever. What is INEXCUSABLE is the Elite, who use that power

        to further their Agendas of Greed, Control, Death, and Destruction.

        http://924collective.wordpress.com/2011/08/25/war

        Our whole culture Hardwires us from birth, Warrior Programming for Boys,

        and Princess Programming for girls. Look at the current generation of First

        Person shooter video games, Call of Duty, Medal of Honor,etc.

        It's all military programming.

        The Propaganda continues with Cartoons, TV shows, and Movies, Books. etc.

        Look at the big budget Military Recruitment Commercials on TV, using outrageous

        amounts of special effects and computer generated imagery.

        The system is quite ingenious The whole point is to completely blur the boundaries of

        fantasy and reality. (11-16) You are in your bedroom playing video games watching

        movies, the next minute you are graduating High School. (We all know how brainwashing

        the education system is) Living in a world with a 10% and rising unemployment rate. You have little opportunity for work options, and the military provides you with a way out of that, the opportunity for a college education, health benefits, travel etc.

        It is quite an appealing offer to many people, who feel a sense of DUTY to their country,

        and want a better life for themselves and their families.

        I would never try and stand in the way of someone wanting to better their lives.

        But I will 100% stand up to people who ABUSE their authority, and positions they are

        SWORN BY OATH, to defend the constitution, and the people of their Countries, by

        manipulating the populations perceptions via Propaganda, Main Stream Media, Movies, "Entertainment", Politics, and the myriad of techniques constantly operating and bombarding us at all times to control what we think, say, and do. It's always been THE method of control.

        http://youtu.be/2Fk6qkHs0oM

        It's People out there like VC who feel a sense of DUTY, to break the veil of propaganda

        and deception. Just like people reading who share the information, everyone has a

        part to play in our collective awakening and realization of our reality.

        We are all in this together, and Knowledge and Truth will always be the strongest weapons.

        Peace and Love,

        We can eradicate ignorance by staying Vigilant!

    • Atruebeliever says:

      I was in the military specifically the Infantry for five years. I cant personally tell you that most serving at the lower ranks arent privy to anything. In fact the generals and 'high ups" run the show and it trickles down. Soldiers at the low levels are taught not to question things unless unmoral or unconstitutional but probably dont know the difference themselves. They are literally brainwashed by the media and in their basic training to kill kill kill. Maybe the enlisting age is that low because young persons tend to be more susceptible to things? This men and women are being taught to hate and to kill without question. This is a serious problem and we should be afraid.

      • Amanda says:

        @ Atruebeliever I'm not an American, but what you said reminded me about Pat Tillman. Now this should have been the greatest story of all time, that would have made Top Gun look cheap and would have guaranteed enlistment for generations! Pat, a handsome all American hero who gave up a multi million dollar professional American football career out of a sense of duty after 9/11.

        From what I know, he was like the poster boy for the US army. The official story I read was that Pat was killed in a firefight by insurgents. However after much pressure the Defense department report then changed that to him being killed as a result of 'friendly fire'.

        What people really believe to have happened though is that he was assassinated at close range. WHY? because it was discovered he was about to blow the lid off the sham war that was really to support the Opium trade in Afghanistan in an interview with Noam Chomsky. What was the American Dream was about to become a Neo-con American nightmare – so Pat Tillman had to be silenced permanently!

        So here's to Pat Tillman who didn't just take orders, who questioned and discovered the truth and was a REAL hero for trying to reveal it!!

        (And a shout out to heroes from ALL over the world who challenge injustice!!)

      • Since I was a toddler, I saw right through this garbage. My classmates didn't unfortunately. And that's perhaps the prevailing reason why they're serving in the military right now.

        I feel the saddest part of all is that the mandatory vaccinations are going to destroy the majority of them in the near-future. So, by the time they wake up – if ever – they will not have the wherewithal to fight tyranny.

    • Matthew says:

      Well I feel that the true heres in any war are not the ones who pick up the weapons, they are the ones who put them down.

      Also virtually every male and female who have died so called fighting for their country, have in fact died fighting for a corporation, simply disguised as a country.

      Peace.

      • Rebuke Satan says:

        @Matthew you couldn't have said it any better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • universaltruth says:

        good point and this is 100% true. the 1040EZ form is actually tribute to england. it all started with king james in 1606 and the virginia company – which now literally owns america.

        your "US Treasury" is owned by the IMF since the early 1900's. google the difference between a federal ID document with all lowercase, first names capitolized (capitalized? i always mix em up), and names with ALL LETTER CAP'D…. the documents with all letters cap'd is interesting. all caps is what CORPORATIONS do. proper nouns, only the first letter of the word is capitalized. so why do all of our documents have all caps? well this is because that document does not represent you, it represents the 'idea' of you – someone to work and tax as a legal entity since there is no america – it's still the virginia company with a different name. and there is no you, just a number in a system that is assigned to you – but does not hold legal water.

        next time you are in court and the case reads like this, "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA VS. YOU" – simply ask to speak with "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA"….. they don't exist and the courts will not be able to produce a proper representative. The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA or YOUR STATE has no right to make claims against you since both are non entities and do not exist.

        most info taken from: http://reality-bytes.hubpages.com/hub/Strawman-Yo

      • Matthew says:

        @Rebuke Satan – Thank you for that!

        @Universal truth – Thanks for that information. Of course this all connects to Maritime Admirality law, or the law of water. If you are an American citizen (I am from the UK btw) your social security number is traded on the New York stock exchange – like cattle!!!

        Peace.

    • Ron says:

      I have to disagree because there are a lot of movies that show the bad side of the military as well. Top Gun only shows a very one-sided view of the the Navy mainly the officer side. Being a veteran of 8 years I can say first hand Top Gun is BS. First officers do get a away with a lot of crap but they would not be able to "buzz the tower" and break rules like Tom Cruise without getting in serious trouble. Second, it shows nothing of the enlisted side (The people who actually DO the HARD work and don't sit at a desk and fly.) The only part they show is the flight deck and the people in the colored jerseys when the planes are taking off and landing on the carriers. Some films that present fair views of the military from different views (some negative) are:

      Behind Enemy Lines, Hurt Locker, The Marine, Men of Honor, Officer and A Gentleman (Definitely more realistic than Top Gun), Sniper, Enemy At The Gates, We Were Soldiers (Grizzly Movie), Platoon, Full Metal Jacket (Not a Glamorous Movie), Antwon Fisher….I could name many better than Top Gun.

      If we went by your argument just throw out your TV because it is ALL propaganda for something….you watch the News and it's filtered, you watch a Sport Game it's propaganda so they can pay them the ridiculous amounts of money they do…more than teachers! You watch MTV or VH1 or BET it is propaganda for music. I usually agree with most everything this website says but I'm sorry this article is just being a bit too touchy. Many movies of the military have been made presenting both the good and bad of the military so I really don't get the comments.

      Also people don't join because they see Top Gun, they do it for patriotism and to fight to keep days like 9/11 from never happening to defend freedoms and show their appreciation for their country. Some do it simply to escape from home because it's a way to become independent from their parents. Everything you expose yourself to be it TV, Books, Radio, News, Internet is propaganda for something….it's not just about the military. Oh and BTW you should know the military has been cutting back on their recruitment so they don't have a need to promote the military as they are getting rid of a lot of people due to "politics" I should know I was one of the victims who got out in the middle of a recession…..

  2. Entertainment does n says:

    Hey VC,

    Hope it's OK to link this video which discusses this very subject (the Hollywood/ Top Gun- Pentagon connection) and has interviews with Pentagon staff involved.

    Entertainment Does Not Exist (Part 2)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl2zVrqeYcE

    • Optimist Prime says:

      Good interview so far, as part 1 just ended…

      I'm not at all educated on the whole sex kitten/war/transhumanism topic, actually i scroll right through it most of the times..

      Though i was really struck by the fact that in the very last seconds of the first part, you see Rihanna in a videoclip wearing a mickey mouse ears helmet.. Wtf is up with that?

      That's like wearing Ronald McDonald's shoes going into The Bronx or something..?

  3. SouthAfricanGirl says:

    Wow! This is hectic. Trust the media and the government to make films that glorify war and leave a warm, fuzzy feeling about killing people for your country. As in the article, there are very few anti-war films which tell stroies of those who have suffered and lost innocent family mambers due to soldiers attacking and bombing them!

  4. mariam says:

    the government is brain-washing the world into thinking that only America has "freedom of speech" and its people are allowed to express any thoughts or ideas in public. but no, that is pure bull****.

    • o brien says:

      the government is brain washing america…

      the rest of the world knows what america is, does, has been and will be…

      the miltary arm of the supreme illuminati

      london for finance

      rome for religion

      washington for bombs

      • johnny says:

        why bring rome or religion into the only religion the extremely rich have is money. its not like the church is working for the corrupt its done more charitable acts then any institution,religion or atheism in the history of the world. And the illuminati is not as big as you think. their is people above the illuminati that are much much stronger.

  5. tracyhaynes says:

    VC and friends – had been pondering this movie for a while. Went to see it with a girlfriend in 1986 when it debuted. Liked it. a youg friend of mine, who was 18 at the time, was so taken with the film that yeah, he decided to enlist in the navy so he too, could be a Top Gun fighter pilot. Reality soon hit, and his vision wasn't good enough, so he became a C-130 cargo plane pilot instead. When was he finished with flying school? Just in time for the Gulf War in 1991. Top gun wasn't just a cynical recuiting flick – it was a tool designed to get young boys to join up so they could be pilots just as the next big war was about to kick off. How's that for planning?

    TH

    • dumbas5 says:

      You know hearing that makes me so sad. I feel like maybe then young people really did feel like it was something honorable but today to be frank, kids my age and a few years older who have enlisted and gone to afghanistan and iraq ( all the ones I know ) have been idiots.

      They didnt join to fight for an honorable cause, they joined because they were all misfits and didnt want to go to college and didnt want to work either. They were lazy as hell and decided "I guess I'll join the military"

      I dont want to offend anybody Im just telling you about the approx 20 people I know who have joined all joined for really really stupid reasons.

      I think the youth are really stupid today. NOT ALL OBVIOUSLY, because I'm young and im aware of many things but right now so many people my age are so brainwashed and lazy its absolutely crazy… have you heard of planking??<– generation of lazy, dumb texters.

  6. I'll be always sorry for ppl that were innocently or not, involved on it, because long before I joined this site, I enjoyed certain things that I later discovered to be dangerous threats to the human race.

    Have you imagine, what would happen to the world if everyone join VC site? Would ppl say: "…that's another crap of site"???, if so, what make us different from the others, I do believe that everyone inside this site are looking for the truth, and we're finding it, why others would just to shut their eyes.

    it's often said that the worst stupid is the one that cannot see an inch of truth in front of their noses.

    So sad :(

  7. juan says:

    That's one of the ways the Government(s) deceives its citizens and cuts down on population figures.

  8. eye wide open says:

    As Jack Valenti, Former President Motion Picture Association of America said: "Washington and Hollywood spring from the same DNA"

    Here is a good doc re this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p-zVRgLIyY

  9. flips says:

    This is nothing new. It only confirms what has been done for thousands of years. If your a Christian, Why were so many people ready to crucify someone who was not a threat (at least to the average person) or perform any crime? It was propaganda from the establishment to generate a such a hostile irrational moblike crowd to put an innocent man to death, and more importantly it was a pay back for exposing the money lenders game when flipping the tables over in the Temple.

    Well some things have not changed, and it is the same story being repeated again and again. The only thing now is that the technology and delivery system is more sophisticated and the message reaches the world in a unified message. That is what scares me

    It's only the immaterial that we will take with us after this life in the material world. Let that immaterial you carry with you be love, peace, empathy, and understanding— and not anger, blind rage, judgement, or hate. The immaterial is more important than the material after our journey in this world and cycle in history.

  10. Skegeeace says:

    I'm not sure if it's an "infringement" upon free speech for the government to enlist big Hollywood to spread their propaganda as long as it's not the the exclusion of someone else's art form. Now, if someone wanted to make a movie about how the army sucks and the government blocks them, then yeah- that's violating the 1st amendment. We can pick and choose what we watch in the theater; even big pro-military love fests.

    • Entertainment does not exist! says:

      “…I’m not sure if it’s an “infringement” upon free speech for the government to enlist big Hollywood to spread their propaganda as long as it’s not the the exclusion of someone else’s art form…”

      That is the same argument used by the Pentagon! (watch the video link in comment number 2).

      It needs thinking about carefully because if the Pentagon chooses to NOT help some other film maker (because they refuse to play ball and make a pro military film) can that be viewed as comparable to effectively preventing that film from being made / from being successful / from competing in the market?

      I think the answer is YES. Therefore it is a kind of censorship via the backdoor.

      It’s like how ‘anyone can become president’. Except you need $zillions in funding. Only the banking/ corporate elite can provide such funding. Therefore through their funding, the banks/ corporations can effectively select the candidates who will be obedient to them and prevent other candidates from ever getting off the ground.

      To paraphrase Bill Hicks “You’re free to watch the movies that we make for you!”

  11. degunk says:

    While I agree that Top Gun is a good advertisement for war enthusiasm, people have longed for war and violence before TV and movies were ever invented.

    I heard a radio program once about the differences between girls and boys that featured mothers and their experiences with they very young children. One family (mother) decided that all references to warfare would be banned from their house, and would not even allow their son to play with or even draw toy guns. The family was proudly telling a visitor about their pacifistic household while the son, who was eating a sandwich at the time, had chewed the bread into the shape of a gun, and proceeded to shout "Bang! Bang!" from his high chair.

    • Entertainment does n says:

      "….While I agree that Top Gun is a good advertisement for war enthusiasm, people have longed for war and violence before TV and movies were ever invented…"

      Do you have any actual evidence to support this claim?

      Before TV and movies were invented we had newspapers/ magazines/ pamphlets/ posters/ radio/ preachers / kings and queens / noblemen etc etc to indoctrinate the masses with pro war propaganda.

      And having a pacifist household does not stop the child in your example from being subjected to pro war images outside of the house.

      And a boy 'playing guns' is not quite the same as an adult joining the military and going off to try and murder perfect strangers and possibly be killed in the process.

      War is a racket. The trick is to associate protecting one's own country, family, freedoms, identity with risking your life to serve your elite war profiting overlords.

      Let's ask an expert.

      “Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany.

      That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.” – Goering

      War is an simply an effect of taxation which is carried out by people (soldiers) under mind control.

      True News 1: War and the Price of Empire
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igWQm3Tv10A

      • AwakenedOne says:

        I'm unsure how one would provide evidence if the commentor said before the television and movies were invented that on the radio that said person heard of the pacifist [From what I've read]. How could one show said evidence on the internet if it was a personal un-recorded experience.

      • degunk says:

        You want proof? Try human history in totality. Are you really trying to tell me it isn't littered with war and violence against other?

        And no, I didn't include other influences purposely: people have influenced each other since there was more than one human on the planet. Where there is a dominant will, there will be a way to war for somebody. I specifically mentioned movies and TV, as this is what the article is about. My point here is while Top Gun has influence, you can't influence what's not already there: some people like a "good" fight, and influences like a movie, a pamphlet, or a town crier will only stimulate what's already there.

        As to the little boy, according to the parents, "He HADN'T had outside influences; we just don't understand." They didn't mention the child's age, but I'm guessing he was young enough not to be in school or on playdates without a parent supervising closely if they were serious about that statement. As I haven't been stalking said couple, I can only go by what they said. Neither I or you can determine the complete truth of their statement given what we so far know.

        Now you do make a good point about most people don't want the effects of war and violence. That is probably true, at least for themselves. Some even extend that courtesy to others as long as they haven't raped their family members or stolen their property. But still, you miss another important point: Where in Top Gun does a person actually get killed because of the actions of the heros? (Yes, you have the one team member of Cruise who flaked out and crashed his plane. No one shot him down though) You see no blood, you see no houses burning, separated body parts, or ravaged country side. All you see is the exultation of folks who have conquered the skill of learning to fly and evade capture. There ARE NO consequences, at least from the movies point of view. So no one gets to see what actually happens in a airfire flight, i.e. what the victims on the ground have to clean up. but that's also true about video games. Do you think they'd be as popular if after shooting up an entire town, the game forced you do clean up duty by washing the blood off the walls and burying the bodies? Or got sent to jail and restricted from playing the game for X days because you violated the law of said fake town?

        Sure, that's the influence of film-making at its finest, and yes it is a form of propaganda. So is every feel-good movie, be it about the underdog football team that wins or the guy who gets the girl. Very few people ever think (at least in the theater) about what actually happens to get to a winning title game (broken bones, pulled tendons, wreck relationships, missed homework assignments, extremely late nights, missed curfews, extremely stinky socks, etc). In fact, all the hard work of the movie is usually reduced to that 1.5 minute montage about 3/4 of the way through the tale that resembles those 10 minute trainer commercials (all this can be yours for only 3 payments of 19.95, and 10 minutes a day…).

        But again, my point is the same as before: if this DIDN'T resonate with people because of something that was inside of them, these movies would flop 100% of the time. People watch them because on some level they WANT these things to happen, even if it's only for 2 hours in a dark room. They rarely think out the specifics of what would happen if this DID ever come true; they just see the "glory" and sigh contentedly.

        Which also goes to the video game violence. Do games really spend much time thinking about what would happen if they actually DID all the things in real life that they do on their PSP's? I guarantee that a few do, but I'm guessing most just want to tease their eyeballs a bit.

        Still, notice for the most part they're not playing "Candy Land" or "Hi Ho Cherry-O," or "Save the World from Poverty and Depravity and Create a Utopia." So despite the element of vicarious role playing, or killing time, or whatever, you still need to ask: what is drawing them to that violence? All the game companies did was suggest an idea that already was popular. If people didn't like or want it, they wouldn't buy the games.

        And as long as that tendency exist, so will war and oppression. You only need the right one or two people to actually carry it out.

        War IS a racket, no question. But the racket wouldn't work if no one wanted to fight. No one wants the EFFECTS of war, at least for themselves. But only wise people think about consequences in the heat of the moment. (and they are usually the FIRST ones to get shot).

    • TheEndOfNights says:

      Wrong people have yearned for the fantasy of violence,not the real thing itself.

      To reference another filmmaker who's had managed to have some critical points in his films Kubrick that in the dawn of man sequence, j(although the vast superiority of 2001 over other science fictions even now makes one think that it is possible that people as skilled as those working under Kubrick could definitely have created a hoax)

    • degunk says:

      http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/1135

      Just saw this today.

      This article is about just how much we are influenced by what we see. Like I said before, that IS true, just like Top Gun influencing so many people.

      But influence only works if there is something already there to work with. People will continue to make movies, music, media, and even store layouts to get you to do with they want. But if you know what inside you is responding to it, and how to stop it, they can not be successful.

  12. HappyCynic says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzY9a-WmE6o

    Top Gun was my favorite movies when I was a teen.

    This guy, Quentin Tarantino, is correct, I believe, in the idea of movies having a subtext (or in this case having homosexual undertones) put there purposefully.

    • IAmLonefrog says:

      I was looking for the entry that was going to bring this up, I'm glad it wasn't too far down in numbers, means there's still hope for this site yet. Sure the government is up to its b/s again, are you honestly surprised?

      Who thinks sabre rattling any more?

      Never mind the stick and the carrot!

      Your'e about to get another bromance.

      From the Holy Wood!

      Sword fight!!!!!!!

      This is the programming you have all been talking about, it must be seen for what it is. Is it even legal to program your own populace? Uh, no. You really want to raise a fuss? Plaster this link all over the net:

      http://www.5min.com/Video/What-TOP-GUN-is-really-

      stinky part is (no pun intended) the lemmings will march right through those theatre doors.

      Gulity as charged.

      Thanks Reb!!!!

    • agamble says:

      HappyCynic. There is no gay agenda. Even if "don't ask, don't tell" was repealed today.

  13. HappyCynic says:

    About the above link Caution Language…

    "You can ride my tail anytime"

    Ha HA Ha

  14. HappyCynic says:

    OOPS forgive me guys….this link is the better one with Q.Tarantino discussing movie subplots and subtexts and in this case TopGun being about Mavs struggle with going the 'gayway'

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=vyN8VN4BS

  15. mars says:

    Propaganda movies were made since the Nazi era. The death or (work) camps were shown as holidays with games and treats for nice Jewish people. But an excellent story by mainstream media.

  16. soylentgreenispeople says:

    Movies like Captain America, Iron Man, Transformers (particularly the last one) serve the same propagandistic purpose. What kind of coutry will USA and territories become? A nation without young men? We are loosing young men (and women) due to wars and drugs.

    • tracyhaynes says:

      Soylent

      ( first of all, awesome name ) But to the point – I feel bad here. I love these flicks. But after viewing Capt. America this summer, which I also enjoyed, I really had to come to grips with the fact that all these films are really just pro-war propaganda. How do the mighty Marvel and DC heroes solve the worlds' problems? Why, by kicking the S*)& out of their enemies, of course.

      " That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it, and it's worked out pretty good so far!"

      Wow.

      • soylentgreenispeople says:

        Yes, Tracy…we've been fed this idea of heroism and grandeur as a way of manipulation. We have to grant them they really know how to do that. The scary thought is all these symbols may be just the tip of the (melting) iceberg.

  17. confused says:

    Maybe this has already been said in the comments but isnt Kathryn Bigelow, the director working with the White House on the Bin Laden movie, the same director that made the critical war film the "Hurt Locker"? :/

    • HappyCynic says:

      Hollywood=govmnt working to influence opinion and public dialog which never seems to equal the truth.

      It's like they expose through movie beforehand but we say, "oh, that was just the movies" for example Independence Day came out in 1996, Wag the Dog 1997, don't tell me they can't fake planes/buildings/smoke/fireball/crowds running ect ect ect ect it's in their own paperwork to fake memorials and victims in this modern war era just to get what they want.

      AMERICA is not stupid, we are duped and shoved flags down our throat because we are "FREE" (even though we have more people in prisons than anyone else on the planet) and everyone else on the planet lives in teepees and doesn't have indoor plumbing.

      Sorry for the rant, I'll take a deep breath now, heh

  18. snap_pea says:

    FYI Renny Harlin (Die Hard 2) just made a very politicized film about the recent Georgia-South Ossetia-Russia conflict, "Five Days of War," from the Georgian point of view. Which I kind of agree with (not knowing much about it), but the point is that it reflects just the official neocon/Pentagon/NATO version, rather than the whole story – it's a straight-up, Russian-hatin' propaganda film.

    Anyway, Harlin just got rights to do a film about Xe, the private military contracting firm formerly known as Blackwater: http://www.blackwaterwatch.com/2011/08/23/film-cu

    What do you suppose the odds are that this film will idealize privatized war?

  19. locust says:

    - Americans are souring on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan -

    The language that we use is important, just as the need to understand symbolism. We must be precise, and we must use our language not that force-fed us by government and media. Once you use the language of the war-mongers you already have lost half the battle (the battle to end the war).

    Please consider this:

    US troops are in Iraq as an occupation force, after the meaningless invasion (the war goals were moot). The Iraq War ended long ago. It's an occupation, now. Still calling it a war gives it an unwarranted cachet.

    There is no 'war in Afghanistan'. US troops are there as part of the war to forever prevent future terrorism by al-Qaeda and our other enemies. They are also in Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan fighting the same enemy and preventing future terrorism, supposedly.

    Afghanistan is a battlefield in this insane and DAFT war to prevent future terrorism. Calling it a separate war is meant to confuse people. Are we to protest 195 separate wars against terrorists? (I allowed one for space. I'm sure we'll find future terrorists out there).

    Don't call it GWOT or WOT or War In Afghanistan or Longest War or Kinetic Military Action. Those are war-monger terms.

    Use our own terms, win the linguistic battle.

    I suggest calling the insanity DAFT, the Defense against Future Terrorism.

    Let us end the DAFT war and end the occupation of Iraq.

    • BRAVELION says:

      Well said Locust!

      Just like our definitions of words and meanings had been hijacked by Government and Main Steam Media.

      If you listen they say over and over "We Live In A Democracy" listen to their terminology

      We in fact DO NOT live in a Democracy, we live in a Constitutional Republic. In a Democracy

      the majority can take rights away from any minority they deem fit. So If we live in a world

      where the population is increasingly uneducated, ignorant, deceived, then it is very easy to get them to believe the propaganda and deception happily giving their freedoms away. If we lived in a world where everyone learned CRITICAL THINKING, and being responsible for their opinions, beliefs, and can rationally debate, understanding perspective, context, and rhetoric, and how to research for themselves we wouldn't be in the situation we face now.

      It's a scary truth, but people are finally stopping being so DAFT,

      and starting to see through the deception.

  20. daisy says:

    why is the government conitnually getting into new wars? and has anyone forgotten that promise that barack made about how he'll bring the troops home? never joining the army…ever

  21. HappyCynic says:

    Americans are naive maybe…there are no real 'wars'….I knew that in 3rd grade when I kept asking questions with no answers.

    Cynical since 3rd grade~

  22. HappyCynic says:

    Mom bought me a desert storm t-shirt and i never understood why i should be wearing it which confused her even more.

  23. HappyCynic says:

    obama=bush jr=clinton=bush sr…….they have the same boss….they are just the front man tv guy reading what they are told to read. We all know they have 20 some writers for their speeches and I don't think obama or bush know how to pay cash for a cup of coffee or how to drive…..i mean hell, oprah says she doesn't know how to drive

  24. HappyCynic says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=D… all fake tv…that's what it's about…that's why we ALL are frustrated and confused

  25. HappyCynic says:

    I went on my own warpath today with all the posts which is unlike me but I love you guys.

  26. amarith says:

    well done VC. I love your posts, so does everybody else.

    this was very enlightening. nothing new of course because behind everything has a hidden agenda.

    i respect your work. thanks VC

  27. sister soul says:

    It seems like the whole of the so called entertainment industry is being used as a propaganda, brainwashing tool. No wonder people cannot think for themselves anymore. What a shame.

  28. Sarah Connor says:

    HA! Tom Cruise (yuk) – He's Cruisazy!!! Get it?

    Here is some very interesting info out of late:

    Disclosure Imminent? Two Underground NWO Bases Destroyed
    http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/97

    I think Wilcox is a nut, but Fulford has some intersting stuff from time to time. And it definately puts a new twist on the VA and CO quakes we just had, within 24 hours of each other (odd for zones with not much seismic activity and both breaking records of a hunderd years or more). Also just more back up that an 'alien' disclosure is near.

    Massive sinkhole in Virginia – see the activist post on 6 anomalies of the VA quake that's in the article
    http://theintelhub.com/2011/09/18/nuked-undergrou

    It's a good rabbit hole for the day…..ya know 'shake' up your Monday a little….ha! cruisazy…..

    • IAmLonefrog says:

      You will lose yourself if you jump down a Benjamin Fulford rabbit hole, you might as well recommend Sorcha Faal and really muddy up the water. Or turn it into gravy why dontcha.

      Develope your instincts before time runs out, save us Obi Wan, you are our only hope.

      • Sarah Connor says:

        Funny Frog – I agree somewhat. He is always interviewing royalty speaking out against the nwo while they flash freemason hand signals. It's actually kind of funny. But there are a few other places claiming they were explosions and not actual earthquakes, just thought this one was the most extensive I've seen. And hey, I'll even listen to Icke on some things. I don't really discriminate, just bring along a big old salt shaker. Everyone has got something.

  29. Ala says:

    Nothing new there..obviously they would want to cash in on osama's highly publicised (death??).

  30. ayesha says:

    People have to realize that war is pointless. My cousin died in Afghanistan. Our grief is mixed with rage with how young soldiers are being used by the elites propaganda. http://oefkia.blogspot.com/2011/03/us-infantry-sp

  31. Kurt says:

    Has anyone seen the video of "This is War" by Thirty Seconds To Mars?

    • sexiibutzsmartz says:

      That video confused the crap out of me man! Truthfully i couldnt tell if it was a good thing like if there against it or for it…

  32. universal2000 says:

    speaking of the movie business…..u dont want to miss this one:
    http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news416_thrive.ht

  33. Sandalphon says:

    Let's not forget that this is the same military that colluded with cabals intending to depopulate the earth by 85-90%. Using that same population's money and resources! This is the same government that subsidized the terror of MK-ULTRA's Nazi brand of trauma-based mind control and wrought those horrors on untold millions for decades! Give 'em hell, however you can. This evil must be purged from existence.

  34. Moya says:

    Please send me the document you mentioned on VC…

  35. stripes says:

    As someone who lives and exist outsite the borders of the mighty USA. I can't help sometimes but feel so sad and sorry for the american people who are so blinded by their false allegiance to a corrupt and morally bankrupt government.

    Of course most if not all world governments are corrupt to a large extent but never has a country been so blatant and obvious in their exploits at the expense of human lives (collateral) with very little to zero regard for foreign policies, never mind diplomacy.

    I sit and watch with stupified awe as the american public claps and celebrates the 'heroic' antics of their fellow bethren in occupied foreign soil for the apparent good of the american conscience. How wonderful to see America get to play empty heroics by swooping in and killing in the name of liberty and freedom – for who exactly? Would it be fair if all these other nations did the same in American soil. Ofcourse not, it would be propestorous (sp) and no sane patriotic american would stand for such. Everybody would pick up arms to defend themselves and their country from foreign invasion…fight to the death even. Nobody would be expected to sit idly by, arms folded waiting for a passive government to tell them what to do. It'd be war of unparallel proportions. So why do you call it terrorism when others do exactly the same thing you would do if in their situation.

    The rest of the world sees America for what it REALLY is, why can't its people see it for what it really is and what it stands for. War is not pretty, with handsome pilots and fighter jets and fake blood from fake wounds. The bullets are real and your enemy is not aiming for a disabling they shoot to kill. Taking a life is not like playing a video game, the blood of the victims is soaked by the earth and cries out for justice and to be avenged. There's nothing heroic or worth celebrating or being proud of, cos everybody loses at the end of war. There are no real winners.

    God bless America and its naive citizens.

    • HappyCynic says:

      MOST of America does not agree with killing and the government.

      Govern=control

      Ment=mind

      Of course, there a some military families that are very proud of their soldiers.

      But, most of us don't believe anything we see on TV

    • degunk says:

      @Stripes says:

      September 20, 2011 at 4:34 am Would it be fair if all these other nations did the same in American soil. Ofcourse not, it would be propestorous (sp) and no sane patriotic american would stand for such. Everybody would pick up arms to defend themselves and their country from foreign invasion…fight to the death even. Nobody would be expected to sit idly by, arms folded waiting for a passive government to tell them what to do. It’d be war of unparallel proportions. So why do you call it terrorism when others do exactly the same thing you would do if in their situation.

      Uh oh; you sound exactly like those "naive citizens…."

      …. which is exactly what those cheering think their doing. They THINK their protecting their families and lands from foreign invaders, and praising those who put their lives on the line to do it.

      Whether the government agenda is protecting or not is a different story.

  36. Vusmuz says:

    @saved by JESUS….post that document on line….giving out emails details is not on….or rather post your own email…. we will then mail you directly….Ta Fellow South African

  37. HappyCynic says:

    That movie is called 'Wag The Dog'. Awesome movie.

  38. Wooska Bob says:

    anti-war Christians? now I've seen everything!

    I thought Christians totally supported the destruction of those filthy heathens ordered by their demi-god George W Bush

    • Sarah Connor says:

      Woosaka-

      George W is NO (neither is Perry FYI) Christian and only can claim he is 'born again' because of a ritual he went through in skull and bones. He is a practicing black magik occultist with so many skeletons in his closet they could populate a country. The USSA was duped, and many more are speaking up against the military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned against than ever before.

      http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/09/14/chuck-bald

      • agamble says:

        Sarah

        I am changing my opinion of you:) You are spot on with this. I was beginning to believe the good Christians of the world were waiting for Christ's return with their eyes closed. There is hope.

    • Wooska Bob says:

      but Sarah Connor, Christians are the ones that got Dubya elected in the first place

      there's no denying that the majority of Christians in America are gullible and will do whatever the party or politicians that claim to be on their side tell them to do without questioning it, just as they will follow the same old dogma that their pastors and preachers tell them to believe without reading the Bible and coming to their own conclusions

      I wish more Christians did that, otherwise we may not be in the shape we are in today

      • Sarah Connor says:

        Agreed – but we are passing the indoctrination phase of humanity and are moving into the unveiling. There are many Christians waking up to this realization, and seeing the web of lies and deceit that has been placed around us…..with a loud voice I might add. It's a process. Breaking through decades of conditioning and confronting our cognitive dissonance is a bugger! agamble said it best, there IS hope.

      • Sunbeam says:

        you are making HUGE generalizations here. i believe i am not alone when i say, as a Christian i vote for the person who is "the least of the two evils".

        i have been aware most of my life that politics is a joke and it doesn't really matter who you vote for, the results are the same.

        most of the Christians i know vote mainly on the moral issues, which make sense, since Christians are generally the people who actually believe in having morals. but stating that they blindly follow a political "leader" is total rubbish. what are WE specifically supposed to do?

        i mean, HELLO, what have you done to NOT follow a sitting president? hmmmm? what exactly have you protested?

        we are all in the same boat. it would not matter one iota if bush's opponent had won, i even forget who it was. lol. i truly don't give a crap. politics and government has been corrupt since way before we were born, there was never anything anyone of us could do to make a difference in that, unless you got a few billion laying around to play the game with?

        placing the blame on Christians is just another copout.

  39. HappyCynic says:

    When they say 'christians' on USA news I believe they are referring to mostly catholics/Pope/Rome as they (american media) seem to basically worship the Pope or at least think very highly of the Pope. In my opinion the Pope orders 'wars'/control of land all over the place and throughout time. I think the nazis even took orders from the pope. These are not real 'christians'..plus the news lies so who knows what's going on.

    Back to the topic, heh, my friends and I used to have a crush on Anthony Edwards Top Gun character 'Goose'

  40. Me says:

    I remember how I first watched the movie with others from my sports team as a teenager in the mid 80s. It also had this effect on me that I was fascinated by planes for a while and I considered to study aviation and aerospace but decided not to because I did not want to end up constructing military planes that would be used to kill people. It was said however at the time that if you study this you more likely end up constructing cars. I also considered to study physics but then decided not to, because they said you'd most likely end up working in atomic research and I did not want to do this either, because after a presentation on Marie Curie in physics class at school I was very aware of the effects of nuclear power. Sometimes I wonder why people do not make similar considerations about the effects of their possible future deeds when they choose their profession. Too many people excuse what they do with "it is part of the job". Really? Not wanting to do certain things like lie at customers out of principle got me into trouble more than once but a world without lying has to be possible. If you have to lie, there is something wrong that needs to be changed for the better.

    • degunk says:

      I was actually going to write wanting to go into aeronautical engineering as well! But that's because before I saw Top Gun, for a school book report I read the book "The Right Stuff,' which is supposed the idea behind the movie. The movie itself didn't impress me as much as the book did (more about the engineering, discipline, and political climate that went into that field of study rather than the personalities).

      (BTW, I decided on another major. Good thing too, as I learned later the aero/astro fields suffered tremendous cutbacks in the 1990s. One of the more prolific fiction authors I was reading at the time started that career after being laid off from his aeronautical position.)

  41. Tango Cash says:

    The military needs to go to war every ten years to use up its bombs and bullets. I'm pretty sure they have a "best before date" stamped on them. So, unlucky for whomever is the "enemy of the month", all that ordinance will be used on you. Then the government can buy more military supplies and keep the economy going. Eisenhower was right.

  42. better job says:

    hey look at the house that was given to naomi campbell in a form of Horus eyes

    http://casavogue.globo.com/arquitetura/a-ilha-des

    • Jameccia says:

      Wow! She lives in that eye? Goodness I can't believe my eyes. Lol

    • degunk says:

      When I first saw the picture, I thought "what was wrong with that?" It was cool architecture — big circular transparent dome with 25 rooms.

      But one of the pictures shows that it's in part of an oval, like the eye the commenter mentioned. The rest of the pictures show the whole thing in context. At that point, it's no longer cool, or accidental. It is clearly the Egyptian symbol, deliberately realized, and bigger than life. Or as one (Italian?) commentator said: "satânica!!!"

      I realize that Egyptians in general did not directly worship satan. But those series of pictures are a lot like some of the comments I see on this site. (oh, you guys are seeing spooks everywhere; it's just a fad; no one really cares, etc) At first it seems relatively innocent. But in context, whether the creators know it or not, it's in league with, yes, satan.

      Yes, that is harsh. But you know what's funny?

      Notice how folks who don't ally themselves with any religious group like to say they connect with some nebulous form of good/higher power (good/god is too big to constrain to our human understanding, etc), but yet, in their minds, the only way to ally with evil or the devil, is to specifically worship THAT christian based entity?

      What if the opposite were actually true? That the only way to ally yourself with good is to worship a specifically entity (God), but that you can be allied with evil in nonspecific nebulous expressions? (evil/satan is too big to be constrained by human understanding…we all can be part of evil/satan in our own ways. I'm sure it/he will understand…)

  43. Maya says:

    This is terrible. Truly, they are making us fight one another by using deception. But for what? For their entertainment? For the extinction of sane mankind?

    Hope those boys will see the light.

  44. Tee says:

    Well, propaganda films disguised as hollywood movies is nothing new, that's what hollywood is for! The military has been doing this at least since WWII. I'm surprised this surprises anyone.

  45. C. M. Hamko says:

    I watched a video exactly like this article on http://www.truthreporter.com and I'm convinced that Washington totally uses Hollywood as a propaganda tool. I just looked the video up. It's called Empire – Hollywood and the war machine. Check it out. An eyeopener.

  46. Ded says:

    @universaltruth

    I read your post, but the IRS came about after the formation of the (not)Federal Reserve in 1910.

    Form 1040EZ was established afterwards. Before the Fed, there was no IRS.

  47. Kels says:

    War just sickens me all together. What is the purpose of it? I mean, the purpose that the people have been brainwashed to believe of it. How does it even work? I killed more people than u, I win! ? This is 2011 not the 1500s. "dying for our country" yes. The country that could give a f if you die. The country that wants u dead. Looks like you accomplished that. Do we not understand that people are people no matter where in the world you are? I'm sure we all know people from foreign countries. What makes them any different from us? We are all humans with one purpose here on this earth.. To LIVE. to be peaceful. To nourish our planet and keep the population alive. If that is what god wants us here for, then how terribly far off from god is war? War is evil. Don't leave your loved ones and precious life for evil. U are just feeding the machine.

  48. Skype says:

    I love TOP GUN. And I like war a little too much. Ha ha.

  49. Maurice Rose says:

    Whenever I watch Top-Gun, I imagine it's Canadian fighter aircraft shooting down American fighter jets.

  50. Anonymous says:

    "Evil made fair-seeming." Propaganda mixed with dis-information, black arts couple with attractive actors to make it more appealing. NCIS was one of my favorite shows until I noticed that many of their episodes were making Islam and the Middle East = terrorist episodes. Once in a while some family member gets revenge or it involves greed/technology. The original Law & Order still rocks though on some occasions it follows a similar formula.

  51. The Peoples Grim Rea says:

    Besides it's "obvisous" illuminati affilation, it's a great movie. But I'm sure America kids are influenced by the History there taught in school about American History, Its all about War, I'm guessing most of you are American, take a little responsibilty for it, getting involved in over seas wars that have nothing to with you. You ain't the World Police. Damn.

  52. blessedeyes123 says:

    just wanted to comment that last night i heard on the radio, "the center for disease control may be knocking on your door soon." i told my brohter it would be a good way to get rid of anti-nwo/christians without anyone knowing what is really happening, scan them like in that will smith movie and then quarantine them, once you got them all together away from the ignorant ppl, try to reprogram or execute them.

  53. SunglassesAtNight says:

    I love this website. Lots of facts here. To bad the majority of the public does not know. I friend/ex boyfriend of mine is hell bent on joining the Marines and I beg him not to. There is so much you can do with your life…

  54. Aeve says:

    Everybody share, reblog, write about this article, respond to the newspapers who publish it (while comments are still open). Tell them we see their games and we don't accept what they are doing. They can only continue doing this to us if we say nothing, it's as good as giving our permission for them to continue.

  55. gnome says:

    Propaganda through films seems pretty ineffective compared to training children for live combat through video games. How many thousands queued up to pay for Call of Duty?

    I can just imagine all these little minds warped on ritalin and aspartame spending hours a day playing graphic war games only to become the Gestapo youth of the future.

    If you have children.. do us a favour and give'm an empty box and crayons to play with.

  56. z.m.t.k says:

    America always used propaganda,through media and movies,does it makes sense to dupe your citizens to go to another Country(ies) to fight terrorism,when u don't know who the bad guy, in any of the countries,so common sense will say that they out for natural resources and don't tell me its Osama and Al qaeeda cos Osama was Bushes friend way before 9-11 and Osama denied he even did 9-11 so Obama could fake kill Osama,and al qaeeda was a org who against their afghani government,4 americans 2 barge in sum1s country n kill the innocent citizens because americans looking for a bad guy n wanna make the country a better place n u expect them to sit back n watch their country get bombed?! If another country barged in america n say they looking 4 a bad guy n wanna make america a better place,would american citizen sit back??? You are a Human being no matter religion,race,or nationality, n which country you stau every1 wants to live with fam earn a living n stay peacefull, BTW America do their dirty deals and bomb other countries whilst using hollywood to ward of their citizens minds of war,that britney is going to the loo at a gas station and whose dating who,and whose having whose kids,whose having coffee and whose wearing wat! Everything in hollywood has a sublime mesg,be it movies about kids,war or romance and music and fashion or commercials and media.Hate Brad Pitt bt He has a point about journalism,my opinion is that There is No journalism in America,everything is approved first and filtered…

    Sorry 4 the rants.

    hope vc does an article about how ppl mysteriously disappear from cruises, and an article about the chilling story of the german forest boy!

    Goodnight.

  57. z.m.t.k says:

    America always used propaganda,through media and movies,does it makes sense to dupe your citizens to go to another Country(ies) to fight terrorism,when u don't know who the bad guy in any of the countries,so common sense will say that they out for natural resources and don't tell me its Osama and Al qaeeda cos Osama was Bushes friend way before 9-11 and Osama denied that he did 9-11 anyways Obama would fake kill Osama and still Americans sees that nothing benefited them cos Obama made empty promises at elections ,and bk on track Al qaeeda was a org who against their afghani government. For americans 2 barge in sum1s country n kill the innocent citizens because americans looking for a bad guy n wanna make the country a better place n u expect them to sit back n watch their country get bombed?! If another country barged in america n say they looking 4 a bad guy n wanna make america a better place by bombing it?,would american citizen sit back??? You are a Human being no matter religion,race,or nationality, n which country you stay, every1 wants to live with their families earn a living n stay peaceful, BTW America do their dirty deals and bomb other countries whilst using hollywood to ward of their citizens minds of war,that britney is going to the loo at a gas station and whose dating who,and whose having whose kids,whose having coffee and whose wearing wat! Everything in hollywood has a sublime mesg,be it movies about kids,war or romance and music and fashion or commercials and media.Hate Brad Pitt bt He has a point about journalism,my opinion is that There is No journalism in America,everything is approved first and filtered…

    Sorry 4 the rants.

    hope vc does an article about how ppl mysteriously disappear from cruises, and an article about the chilling story of the german forest boy!

    Goodnight.

  58. JD says:

    What I find interesting is that every time a big event takes place — politically that is — be it a war, an attack, an invasion, an assassination — Hollywood comes out with a film about the event, as if to present the 'official' — and the one that goes with their agenda — to the masses, so when they look back in history, they remember the events filtered through the film. The power of film is incredible. Some people can't distinguish between real and REEL images.

  59. claudia says:

    at everyone in order to get to the truth of the present and the future you need to go back to the past and the real gospels you know the ones that are hidden from us and really read the hostory and im not talking HISTORY books or WIKIPEDIA that stuff is so diluted go to actual books that have been made by people who really know and have researched their history!!! its so crazy but it will open your eyes even more becaause you will understand from the beginning whats really going on book of enoch angel wars go to steve quayle site that guy has his shit on spot i thought i was crazy cause of what i thought and once i heard him i knew that im not the only one that came to realize that is all conected and it is a way between angel and demonds please check it out

  60. Bevin says:

    The makers of Top Gun undoubtedly "sold out" to the Pentagon and made a Navy approved recruiting film.

    But Cash and Epps, the screenwriters, and Tony Scott, the director, got in a lick or two in return.

    As Quentin Tarantino correctly noted, they turned the entire film into a gay send-up.

    Who came out on top? Hard to say.