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"Two millennia of Heinous Acts"! - Pope


09-01-2015, 09:16 AM #1
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My lifelong significant other is still a member or executive of the Indiana State Teacher's Pension Fund, the national sorority for teachers, NEA and World Congress of Teacher's. She is listed in the Who's Who of Teaching in the US. I recollect many things including proving her fellow grade four teacher who was still teaching the books of the Bible after it was outlawed - also was a p***phile. It appears from the following report that the proselytes in schools are almost as bad as the cretins banded together to preach and abuse others on this site. I hope the Supreme Court does something about it as they are doing about the sale and promotion of tobacco products which this person makes comparisons with. It is from FFR and no doubt it will stir up the cretinous creatures who support a church which the Pope said is responsible for "two millennia of heinous acts".


I doubt the illiterate people brandishing their Bible quotes here have enough knowledge of history and their church to list more than ten of the thousands of  heinous acts. There are a few I think must be listed.

1. The abuse of women made legal and encouraged with the SINS and DEMONS coming out of Augustine, and at the Council of Carthage.
2. The Children's Crusade where on one day (of many) 250,000 men, women and children singing hymns to the living love of Jesus were marched into the fires set by people like our cretins here.
3. The Concordat with Nazi Germany, the persecution of Jews and many others.
4. The Malleus Malleficarum.
5. The falsehoods of a New Testament written to attack the people Jesus was ministering to, his kin and neighbors. Romanism and Pauline Christology is not Christian despite the acceptance of it by fools and money-grubbers.

https://ffrf.org/about/getting-acquainte...proselytes

"Whether it was our cause or the quality of our cooking that allowed every item to be sold remains to be seen. Regardless of our customers' motives, the profits financed a field trip for the Theory of Knowledge class to listen to a professor from Arizona State University speak on various religions, as well as atheism and humanism.
The memory that comes to mind most frequently is walking into the cafeteria to grab some breakfast before first period, only to be met with stares, silence, and the shaking of many, many heads. In the morning hours, the cafeteria doubles as the informal meeting place for anyone with a belief in God and a need to validate this belief through the means of mass prayer. While I don't particularly enjoy being stared at like a leper, nothing comes between me and my prepackaged Fruit Loops, not even a higher deity.

Contrary to the popular belief of school administration and students, I am not an activist or a rebel in any way, shape, or form. I am a student. I go to school to learn, and I like to learn in peace. Whatever I do that can be considered a protest of religion in public schools is the result of a simple desire to have my Mormon and Christian peers cease their extracurricular campaign to convert me and other "heretics." The Advanced Placement curriculum at Chandler High School is a rigorous, time-intensive ordeal and, like most Honor students, I cherish my lunch period as the one time of day when I don't have to be "mature" or "intelligent" or even "attentive." I'd rather spend my lunch hour with my friends, devout Christians, Muslims, and Jews alike, than nod politely and attentively at a total stranger who is telling me about his experiences with the glory of God in excruciating detail.

When I "antagonize" members of religious clubs or youth groups, I do it not out of intolerance for their beliefs or to prove that they're "wrong"; I do it in defense of my lunch and sanity. I cannot be more honest when I say that if there is one reason why religion should not pervade public school campuses, it is to keep people like myself from completely losing it and inciting a lunchtime jihad.

Thankfully, logic and rational thought are also on the side of religion-free public schools. Prayer is an entirely personal experience; it is a person communicating directly to God. Why does anyone, even a kindergartner, need a middleman such as a teacher to relay his or her thoughts to God? Instead of devoting their energies to changing part of the foundation of the United States Government as well as the educational system, Christians should concentrate on encouraging prayer before or after class, in one's free time, and in places where it would be welcome by everyone.
The bumper sticker that claims that "as long as there are tests, there will be prayer in school" is exactly right, though it also makes the critical point that prayer needn't be a public ritual. I know for a fact that teachers do not allow a "moment of silence" for students to offer the last-minute prayer, "Dear God, I didn't study for this test, but if you help me pass it I'll study extra hard for the next one." Nor do teachers publicly lead the class in pleading for a passing grade. Yet, I also know for a fact that many desperate students find the time to pray for a miracle nonetheless. This leads me to wonder why the basic school-wide prayer that the Religious Right is calling for can't be done privately and on one's own time, as well?

From my experience as a student, the answer to this is that there are things on their minds like unfinished homework or whether the demi-Gods of the Yale Admissions Office have deemed their applications worthy of acceptance. From this answer stems another question: If the typical red-blooded student, whether 8-years-old or 18, is largely preoccupied with matters more crucial to his or her immediate well-being than school-time prayer, who is it that is advocating the introduction of prayer into public schools? Obviously not students; they're too busy trading PokŽmon cards and staring at the cute girl two rows over.

There is an infamous group of people known to use American youth as the pawns that keep their business booming: tobacco manufacturers. Their exploitation of youth has led to continually stratospheric profits, and these profits have enabled them to yield considerable control in legislative issues by monetarily supporting politicians. As the slick rhetoric and objectives of Christian groups promoting religion in public schools become more apparent through their media organizations and the cases before the Supreme Court, I cannot help but see similarities between the "marketing" campaigns of Christian organizations and tobacco companies."
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09-01-2015, 09:23 AM #2
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Robert,

Why do you always blame religion?

Religion was INFILTRATED, by the Satanic cult, to assume its leadership and commit heinous acts in its name.

All part of the plan to subvert the Abrahmic Faith and to make way for WHAT IS NOW

Christ NEVER taught anyone to rape, pillage and steal in his name.

You know Pol Pot, Stalin and Mao... they were all Atheists..


“The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only.”


― Thomas Carlyle, On Heroes, Hero Worship and the Heroic in History





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09-01-2015, 09:28 AM #3
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for whatever reason Mr. Baird assumes that slander, mocking, ridiculing and hate in general are useful tools. as a matter of fact I meanwhile feel sorry for him. what a sad life he must live.
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09-01-2015, 10:11 AM #4
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(09-01-2015, 09:28 AM)meltbanana Wrote:  for whatever reason Mr. Baird assumes that slander, mocking, ridiculing and hate in general are useful tools. as a matter of fact I meanwhile feel sorry for him. what a sad life he must live.

Dude, have you seen the Islam vs Christianity mud-slinging on this site? It's cringeworthy. The worst of the VC forums, by far. "Cretins" may seem a bit harsh, but only a bit. "Illiterate" is maybe too harsh, though I'll give him "semi-literate". Tongue

I think Robert is one of the more interesting contributors. Please don't run him off for being blunt.

09-01-2015, 10:13 AM #5
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Rather than attacking and lying why don't you take anything stated above and present cogent arguments?

Stalin was trained in the Church and was a seminarian, Hitler was a lifelong Catholic - read his Concordat mentioned above. You do not know what Pol Pot was and it does not matter - all religions with boogeymen (His area of the world is not one of those indoctrinaires.) are guilty of the heinous acts - a good Pope apologized for in 1999.

That is the title of this thread - and you guys have proven what the student above says. You are close to being criminals and act as a lynch mob like those Paul/Saul encouraged to stone St. Stephan.

09-01-2015, 02:33 PM #6
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(09-01-2015, 10:13 AM)Robert Baird Wrote:  Rather than attacking and lying why don't you take anything stated above and present cogent arguments?

Stalin was trained in the Church and was a seminarian, Hitler was a lifelong Catholic - read his Concordat mentioned above. You do not know what Pol Pot was and it does not matter - all religions with boogeymen (His area of the world is not one of those indoctrinaires.) are guilty of the heinous acts - a good Pope apologized for in 1999.

That is the title of this thread - and you guys have proven what the student above says. You are close to being criminals and act as a lynch mob like those Paul/Saul encouraged to stone St. Stephan.

Please, will you give it up? All you do is talk down to others who don't agree with you; and it's pathetic, quite frankly.

It's no secret that Adolf Hitler was a staunch Catholic. What you don't seem to understand though, is the fact that Christians are not Catholics, and Catholics are not Christian. Any amateur in historical studies would know that Catholicism hated Christians, and it still does. Or what many call "Protestantism."

It's a sign of utter immaturity and ignorance when one blames Christians for heinous deeds of the past done by the Roman Church. You're not preaching anything that no one has heard before.
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09-01-2015, 02:53 PM #7
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(09-01-2015, 09:23 AM)Tarikko Wrote:  Robert,

Why do you always blame religion?

Religion was INFILTRATED, by the Satanic cult, to assume its leadership and commit heinous acts in its name.

All part of the plan to subvert the Abrahmic Faith and to make way for WHAT IS NOW

Christ NEVER taught anyone to rape, pillage and steal in his name.

You know Pol Pot, Stalin and Mao... they were all Atheists..

The same old broken record, they were all atheists. It proves nothing and its just another imbecile excuse for the crimes connected to (organized) religion. Hard to see that when ure brainwashed, impossible in fact.

People who surrender their former religious beliefs have got to be some of the smartest and bravest people in the world because they set out to find truth even while under the threat of "eternal damnations". George Carlin

09-01-2015, 03:15 PM #8
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(09-01-2015, 02:53 PM)Emerald Wrote:  
(09-01-2015, 09:23 AM)Tarikko Wrote:  Robert,

Why do you always blame religion?

Religion was INFILTRATED, by the Satanic cult, to assume its leadership and commit heinous acts in its name.

All part of the plan to subvert the Abrahmic Faith and to make way for WHAT IS NOW

Christ NEVER taught anyone to rape, pillage and steal in his name.

You know Pol Pot, Stalin and Mao... they were all Atheists..

The same old broken record, they were all atheists. It proves nothing and its just another imbecile excuse for the crimes connected to (organized) religion. Hard to see that when ure brainwashed, impossible in fact.

And you don't think the manure Baird posted was a broken record? Something many people have been saying for a very long time? And if they were atheists, how does that prove nothing? Wouldn't that in fact absolve the actual faith from any blame? I don't see any real logic in these accusations.

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09-01-2015, 03:27 PM #9
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(09-01-2015, 02:53 PM)Emerald Wrote:  
(09-01-2015, 09:23 AM)Tarikko Wrote:  Robert,

Why do you always blame religion?

Religion was INFILTRATED, by the Satanic cult, to assume its leadership and commit heinous acts in its name.

All part of the plan to subvert the Abrahmic Faith and to make way for WHAT IS NOW

Christ NEVER taught anyone to rape, pillage and steal in his name.

You know Pol Pot, Stalin and Mao... they were all Atheists..

The same old broken record, they were all atheists. It proves nothing and its just another imbecile excuse for the crimes connected to (organized) religion. Hard to see that when ure brainwashed, impossible in fact.

I'm the one brainwashed? Perhaps you are on the wrong forums.

This is a a truther website and not yahoo(d)!

Go parrot that NWO imbecilic rhetoric over there.. We long for something fresh here and not that same old broken record

Shalom
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09-01-2015, 07:07 PM #10
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With or without religion - people will still kill each other.

And that, my friends - is the truth.

Blaming a religion for the acts of of its followers is like blaming a knife for the murder of a human being. The knife itself was doing nothing, it was the person wielding it for the wrong reasons.

But you know what? Haters will hate. And they will attempt to justify that hatred with overly long OP's which neither say this nor that, and instead - show how fundamentally compromised and inflexible the writer really is. But you gotta read between the lines to notice - and you Mr Robert, have been had - the members are onto you now Smile

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Out beyond ideas
of wrong-doing,


and right-doing,

there is a field...

...I'll meet you there.
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