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06-01-2015, 09:27 PM #1
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What I find rather fascinating is the increase in knowledge regarding the real agenda well hidden in government, military, financial and media institutions, as VigilantCitizen does its part in exposing but a sector of this reality. And as we know food, medicine, communications and academia are but a few more sectors of "civilization" that are also inundated by corporations and support organizations, with related research showing how those sectors are also being controlled for a greater overall "new world order" or "world government" global agenda.

So in all this expose' of the deeper dynamics of the nation-state, and its 3 dimensional global corporate super-state of globalization control aligning the nations for these uses, we have many people out there now touching on the common themes as this actual terminal global governance development matures to culmination—for it cannot be so well developed for nn final purpose of use and actual global application.

What I find LACKING is commentary on how religions are also controlled from within with similar techniques, to produce the same kinds of smokescreens and well engineered delusions that actually also AID the whole overall developmental global governance purpose.

So from time to time I would like to give examples of this kind of "mind control" and expectation engineering in various global religions, which as one complex are meeting the same end as the rest of the developments we are seeing exposed deeply now.

And I think part of the distraction, is religious differences well blind the person involved in religions, from also seeing how, on the grander level, their own religion is also controlling them to accept a set of predetermined delusions or "enemies", to distract them, aid the divide and conquer reality, and most certainly to blind them from just how their religion, is also "infiltrated" from long ago to also create a deceptive environment just as well designed as the ones within government, media and financial corporate complexes, by the same means of centralized, but distributed control, issuing the same formulaic deceptions.
 
Thus I am not starting a thread about arguing religion, that is part of the technique of divide and conquer. I am talking about how certain elements in religious "doctrine" (religious academia sourced) or corporate positioning can be used to create the same expectations in their "flock" of people, and the same deceptions, that are also present in the greater overall deception process, for the acceptance of global government as the "divine solution", as in the cases of how religions are ALSO used for the Illuminati purpose.
 
I am not making a judgment on prophecy (in any religion), for if prophecy is true, then by default it must be overridden to hide the truth, and to serve another purpose, just as religious moral directives are quickly overridden, or set aside, to serve the state tribal goals of war—which is an example of the corporate positioning mentioned earlier, that goes hand in hand with "theological" conditioning that synergizes to serve the same mind control and behavior control agenda, but in the manner unique in the religious realm.

Nor is this a comparison or "attack" on ANY religion. This is to attempt to explore the more elevated mechanism that controls all "mainstream" corporate religions, just as everything else is in deeper and more comprehensive control structures now being explained from the grander perspective.
 
In my opinion religions have fallen off the radar of total exposure when compared to the enlightening global-analysis of geo-politics, international diplomacy, financial systems, media and entertainment and those types of now well developed research and commentary. 

But in reality, just as in those other exposés, religions are also priming their flocks for the acceptance of the new world order and global governance, in their own unique manner of deceptions, programming and allowances of a unique academic development of well engineered delusion and decoy by premature expectations grilled into the religious mind for now decades.
 
May be others have examples that demonstrate how religions are supporting the world government objective. But I will try to add a thought, now and then, of specific example of how a religious delusion serves another purpose when finally applied in the coming days. 

As an example I will develop more fully later, the Christian "rapture" is an example of a delusion by premature application that also aids the escapist mentality, that will like the rest of these kinds of delusions, fail by premature use of the concept, as this all in time heads into the final global phase to birth full world government.
 
And as I said before, I am not saying the prophecy is invalid, I am saying the premature expectation is how that very well primed Christian expectation can be used for other debilitating and delaying purposes, which will also develop while the prophecy is discredited by this failure due to premature application. 

Thus a goal is to also discredit the whole Christian religion in the process, by prophetic failure actually pre-programmed to fail, to be used instead by the world government objective.
 
Thus with many religions, PREMATURE EXPECTATION is the most important technique, when hijacking prophecy for another purpose, and to attempt to lead those religious masses to world government instead, as of course the "ultimate decoy", presented first to aid that false impression, in the whole process of this final global crisis cycle.
 

Regards

Isaiah 40:26 "Not one of them is missing"

06-02-2015, 11:03 AM #2
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Quote:As an example I will develop more fully later, the Christian "rapture" is an example of a delusion by premature application that also aids the escapist mentality, that will like the rest of these kinds of delusions, fail by premature use of the concept, as this all in time heads into the final global phase to birth full world government.


This I'd love to hear more about. I actually have a novel on the backburner along these lines, but it involves aliens too. 
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06-04-2015, 04:46 AM #3
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Concerning Christianity 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Scripture talks about a Lie/Deceite, This Passage Clearly indicates Anyone who doesnt Love the Truth will believe it. and the Passage makes no mention of these People are Believers/Unbelievers, nor what Truths they Should of Loved, Definitly the Birth/Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ, thats a must.....but it mentions Unrighteousness, so it to me it seems Jesus is saying "Anyone, Believer or None Believer" who has Pleasure in Unrighteousness God will send a Strong Delusion so they May believe the Lie. Today you can Find Christians who are Sexual Immoral and think its Ok, i mean couple of months ago i saw a youtube of a Pornstar who said she was Christian saying "its ok to do Porn".

Also Matthew 24:24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

Many are called but few a chosen, so the Falls Messiah and the False Prophet will do/say/work something that is so powerfull that it could be possible that the Chosen once of God himself can be Decieved by.

Definitly are there People who are trying and some extent or even greater extent Directing people in some Churches in a path that will end up to be more acceptant to the New World Order or the Dude who will Rule, wich we call The Man of Sin, Lawless One, Anti Christ.

Love Jesus Christ, Love and Believe what he said in the Scriptures, hope for the best, prepare for the worst and you should be Good to Go.

Also you really like to use the word Premature eh? xD
http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/premature there you go lol
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06-06-2015, 12:10 AM #4
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I've been a Christian for 25+ years and I think this is a great topic.  So many Christians only believe what their denomination teach and can't even show biblically why they believe what they believe.  I used to believe in Hell as place of eternal torment.  I used to believe in the Rapture.  I used to believe in Tithing to the Church.  The list goes on and on.  I believe the Bible is the inspired word of God more than ever, but I no longer believe much of what is considered "orthodox" Christianity.  

Frank Viola's book "Pagan Christianity" is a great introduction to understanding how much of what is accepted as Christian doctrine and dogma is really rooted in Pagan religion and not Scripture.
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Then shall the king say to those on his right hand, Come ye, the blessed of my Father, inherit the reign that hath been prepared for you from the foundation of the world;

And the king answering, shall say to them, Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as ye did to one of these my brethren -- the least -- to me ye did
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06-06-2015, 01:40 AM #5
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(06-06-2015, 12:10 AM)Todd Wrote:  I used to believe in Hell as place of eternal torment.  I used to believe in the Rapture.  I used to believe in Tithing to the Church.  The list goes on and on.

Hey Todd,
I'd be interested to know/understand your reasoning behind your belief/biblical proof for it if you have time.
Thanks
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06-06-2015, 02:16 AM #6
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(06-01-2015, 09:27 PM)StarTemple Wrote:  As an example I will develop more fully later, the Christian "rapture" is an example of a delusion by premature application that also aids the escapist mentality, that will like the rest of these kinds of delusions, fail by premature use of the concept, as this all in time heads into the final global phase to birth full world government.

When I hear anyone talk about the rapture, how the righteous will be taken away, I can't help but feel.. It comes from people who gave up.  People see a horrible word, but rather than try to fight for what's right, they give up.  They sit, pray, and hope God will save them from the bad people... Rather than saving themselves.
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06-06-2015, 11:56 AM #7
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(06-06-2015, 12:10 AM)Todd Wrote:  I've been a Christian for 25+ years and I think this is a great topic.  So many Christians only believe what their denomination teach and can't even show biblically why they believe what they believe.  I used to believe in Hell as place of eternal torment.  I used to believe in the Rapture.  I used to believe in Tithing to the Church.  The list goes on and on.  I believe the Bible is the inspired word of God more than ever, but I no longer believe much of what is considered "orthodox" Christianity.  

Frank Viola's book "Pagan Christianity" is a great introduction to understanding how much of what is accepted as Christian doctrine and dogma is really rooted in Pagan religion and not Scripture.

I believe only bible, but i have no problems believing in rapture, could you tell more? What was it that book that changed your opinion? Roman catholic church is evil, they pagan root is well known and i agree with StarTemple they will help to build NWO, however this has nothing to do with things written in bible at all...

Truth is precious it's guarded by God

06-06-2015, 12:44 PM #8
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Well it's a long story but I'll try to hit some highlights to keep it brief.  If the discussion warrants I will go into more details later.

Years back when the Left Behind books first came out, I started reading them.  I got about half way throught the second book and something in my spirit just didn't sit right.  I put the left behind books down and started on a journey to find what the Bible really said.  I'm still on that journey so I'm not trying to imply I have it all figured out.

The first big key that I believe the Holy Spirit gave me was about the scripture that Christ is coming back for a bride that spotless and blameless (Ephesians 5).  2 Peter 2 describes false teaching as spots and blemishes.  So my first key was that Christ was going to deal with false teaching in his Church before he returned.  

Suddenly I saw the events of history leading to Christ's return not primarly as judgement on un-beleivers but as purification and refining of his people.  

Without going into details i learned alot about all the differnt eschatoly theories.  Pre vs post trib, pre vs post amillenialsim, and finally the Preterist view.  I don't really care for all the labels and such but in the end I probably mostly agree with the Preterist view.  

In short he Preterist view states a considerable amount  of what we consider end times prophecy in the bible was fulfiiled leading up to and culminating in the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem in 70AD.

Eventually I got to the point where I questioned the whole idea of Hell as an eternal place of torment.  I had learned all the religious gymnastics that are required to attmept to reconcile the idea of a loving merciful God, tormenting unbleievers for eternity.  

Without going into details just yet, the basic flaw stems from the fact that after the pagan concept of Hell was introduced to the Church, the english translators became biased by Church Dogma and incorrectly translated the word "AEON" as eternity, forever, forever and ever, etc....  AEON simply means a periiod of time of certain duration.  Or in other words it means "AGE".  The bible does speak of a coming "age" where unbelievers will be cast in to the Lake of Fire.  But the Fire is representative of God's purification and redemption.  Every Knee will bow and every tongue will confes that Jesus is Lord.  

Read 1 Corinthians 15...but read it with an open mind, ignoring the concept of Hell as an eternal place of punishment.  God's desire is that all men be saved and he certainly is capable of performing his will.

I don't have time right now to finish this, but I will add more later.

Then shall the king say to those on his right hand, Come ye, the blessed of my Father, inherit the reign that hath been prepared for you from the foundation of the world;

And the king answering, shall say to them, Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as ye did to one of these my brethren -- the least -- to me ye did
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06-06-2015, 03:56 PM #9
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(06-06-2015, 01:40 AM)SDG Wrote:  Hey Todd,
I'd be interested to know/understand your reasoning behind your belief/biblical proof for it if you have time.
Thanks
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For which item on the list?  Or are you asking for all three I listed?

(06-01-2015, 09:27 PM)StarTemple Wrote:  So from time to time I would like to give examples of this kind of "mind control" and expectation engineering in various global religions, which as one complex are meeting the same end as the rest of the developments we are seeing exposed deeply now.

I'll contribute a couple.....

FEMA recruiting Pastors who will maninpulate Romans 13:1 to get Christians to peacefully enter detention camps

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/1...fema-camp/

The Religious Right/Moral majority movement to manipulate Evangelicals into buying in the GOP agenda.
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Then shall the king say to those on his right hand, Come ye, the blessed of my Father, inherit the reign that hath been prepared for you from the foundation of the world;

And the king answering, shall say to them, Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as ye did to one of these my brethren -- the least -- to me ye did
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06-06-2015, 04:05 PM #10
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(06-06-2015, 12:44 PM)Todd Wrote:  The first big key that I believe the Holy Spirit gave me was about the scripture that Christ is coming back for a bride that spotless and blameless (Ephesians 5).  2 Peter 2 describes false teaching as spots and blemishes.  So my first key was that Christ was going to deal with false teaching in his Church before he returned.  

Suddenly I saw the events of history leading to Christ's return not primarly as judgement on un-beleivers but as purification and refining of his people.  

In short he Preterist view states a considerable amount  of what we consider end times prophecy in the bible was fulfiiled leading up to and culminating in the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem in 70AD..

A lot of end times prophecies involves purification, refining and  harvesting, if Christ return is about it, how prophesies could be not about it ?
About Ephesians 5 that's quite deep, i had to remember few things i already was forgotten, thanks...However it is church/body that need's refining/purification, bride is already spotless. Rev 3:10 is a promise for a bride, and also confirms few things...

(06-06-2015, 12:44 PM)Todd Wrote:  Without going into details just yet, the basic flaw stems from the fact that after the pagan concept of Hell was introduced to the Church, the english translators became biased by Church Dogma and incorrectly translated the word "AEON" as eternity, forever, forever and ever, etc....  AEON simply means a periiod of time of certain duration.  Or in other words it means "AGE".  The bible does speak of a coming "age" where unbelievers will be cast in to the Lake of Fire.  But the Fire is representative of God's purification and redemption.  Every Knee will bow and every tongue will confes that Jesus is Lord.  

Read 1 Corinthians 15...but read it with an open mind, ignoring the concept of Hell as an eternal place of punishment.  God's desire is that all men be saved and he certainly is capable of performing his will.

I don't have time right now to finish this, but I will add more later.

There is a lot to note in 1 Corinthians 15 , i would not dare draw conclusions...However i believe there is going to be restoration of all things, so kind of agree with you no eternal punishment, not for humans at least.

Truth is precious it's guarded by God




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