(07-28-2015, 11:45 AM)Riddler Wrote: to be honest, i find the title you posted profoundly offending.
(07-28-2015, 11:45 AM)Riddler Wrote: There are many women working at a stripclub because they don't see any other way of providing
at a certain point in their lives and end up in that 'world' where they were thinking just being there
temporarily but without realising it become even more restraint and end up unable to leave.
My is French Canadian but my dad is an immigrant and when he came to Canada he could barely speak English but he did any menial job and made it work at the end. He didn't need to become some stripper and or gigolo. Or what about the other million women who come from poor countries to the West and can't speak English but manage to do just fine?
(07-28-2015, 11:45 AM)Riddler Wrote: Then these poor women for god knows what cause meet up somebody with which they have a connection
and fall in love - like every human being because yes, strippers are human beings with emotions, too.
Hitler, Bush, Cheney, Merkel, the Rothschilds, and etc. were and are humans as well.
(07-28-2015, 11:45 AM)Riddler Wrote: Whether it's wise to marry or befriend a stripper is a totally different story, but getting with a stripper does noet equal you are going to get cheated on or even less; make you deserve to get cheated on because for some reason bent views on society mean its deserved? that's crazy right there.
And based upon what? If i read it correctly, it's not even certain he has been cheated on. Sure there are signs, but that doesn't mean it actually happened.
If you marry a stripper and you get cheated on then you deserved it. Any sane and rational person could tell you that.
She sees him in secret. It's gullible people like you that get cheated on and then have no idea why. There's always a reason. The fact is that his wife is going out alone to see another man in secret. Even if they didn't sleep together that's plain wrong and breaks trust within relationships. If you let your girlfriend and or wife go out with a man alone for dinner because he's a casual friend then you also get deserved to get cheated on. Men today have no pride but are surprised when they get cheated on.
(07-28-2015, 11:45 AM)Riddler Wrote: Furthermore, if this stripper had a friend- a trustperson - before she met her future husband/partner, then that relationship, which might be purely platonic, is even older then the partner-relationship, and the stripper could simply maintain contact with her 'friendzoned friend' for whatever reason.
Again one wonders why they were cheated on with nonsense such as this.
(07-28-2015, 11:45 AM)Riddler Wrote: And i dont know your friend nor the stripper, but who's to say your friend is that trustworthy or actually committing or maintaining the relationship? I've had friends coming with heartbroke stories which later turned out to be for the largest part their own fault because they neglected to tell they themselves hugely neglected on their part of the relationship.
Not saying that is the case here, but 'men who marry strippers deserve to get cheated on'? really, thats very offending.
I have many respect for (honest) men that feel for strippers and take effort to provide them a house a home, love and warmth. Imho it would provide quite the improvement to then take that women out of that business and into something like being a secretary or whatever to get her out of that life.
There's no evidence to suggest my friend is cheating and even if he was this is not about him. He was not the one caught with texts showing secret meetings.
I'm sure strippers love getting a home provided for them but I'm sure they love how gullible men are even more.
(07-28-2015, 12:02 PM)Talijana Wrote: And that is what it is, I find it more sad that we live in a world where women have to commodify themselves to get by and some strains of feminism are telling us its empowering.
Mainstream feminism actually supports this outright. They really believe that pornography, stripping, and such work is empowering. This is the feminism that reaches the ears of the majority of women.
(07-28-2015, 12:02 PM)Talijana Wrote: And I dont think sex work is the same bashing people. I wouldnt want to be friends with a woman that hits her partner or thinks violence is an acceptable way to deal with things and I wouldnt want to date a man that hit his. I think the equivalent here would be a male porn star. stripper.prostitute and yes, if they were nice to their mum and family and understanding humans who werent quick to judge, and cared about others and liked reading books and we enjoyed the same things and they assured me those days were behind them I would consider dating them if I were dating.
Sex work and violence go hand in hand. So the example was perfectly viable.
Prophet Muhammad (SallAllahu alaihi wasalam) said:
"My similitude and that of the life of this world is that of a traveler who took a rest at mid-day under a shade of a tree and then left it." (Ahmad, at-Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah and al-Hakim)