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07-23-2015, 06:50 PM #1
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Elite, Illuminati, devil worshippers. We all have different words and names to describe the one's pulling the strings behind the scenes. 

When you come here to talk about issues and share your thoughts that may not be very "mainstream", you are in good company. 

But how about your family and friends?

Are you the only one vigilant, or do you have someone that doesn't just buy you some tinfoil whenever you bring these things up? 

In my case, I'm trying to convince my mother. My father hates capitalism, greed, politicians etc, so he's the easy one. 

My sister on the other hand believes every official story told since like the beginning of time. 

My girlfriend isn't even interested in all this, so trying to talk to her about is like trying to milk a pencil. 

Thanks to VC, I feel that I can share my thoughts without having to defend myself. 
This post was last modified: 07-23-2015, 07:08 PM by Briandao.

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07-23-2015, 11:21 PM #2
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My boyfriend isn't into any of it, don't really have friends anymore
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07-24-2015, 12:56 AM #3
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i try to tell family members most just dont want to hear it though. its hard to explain it to them when you dont know all the answers yourself though
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07-24-2015, 09:21 AM #4
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Im the only one in my family who looks up these kinds of things and takes it seriously.

My brother is open to these kinds of things and I have had conversations with him about it but I don't think he has ever done any research. Most young people seem to be aware that there is something wrong with the world today even if they don't realise what it is.

I have tried to explain it to my mum, several times, but she is fully indoctrinated into the system (bless her) and thinks this is how the world is supposed to be. She always has my back so I don't like to upset her, which is why I don't tell her anything she doesn't need/want to know.

Some people have called me "the caveman" which would make my dad positively prehistoric by comparison. I love my dad but I can't have a deep conversation with the man without him thinking im weak or an idiot so I don't bother.

Most of my family disowned me when I was on the drugs so I don't really speak to them that much...

I can talk to my friends about this stuff but I don't really have that many friends. I have always been a "people person". For a long time I hated everyone, including myself (I still do to a certain extent but I don't let it rule me). At the end of the day it just isn't worth it, all I want is some peace. I might only know true happiness when im dead.

Sorry about putting the downer on your thread bro.

A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool – William Shakespear
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07-24-2015, 09:34 AM #5
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Everyone in my family and extended family know that there is a small group of people calling the shots and running this world. My brothers and I always discuss about the ruling elite and their little brainwashing schemes they have going on behind the scenes. We differ on a couple of things but on the major things we all agree on.

I believe everyone deep down knows there's something wrong within the world, which is why so many get depressed by mid life even though they might themselves not even know why they're depressed.

Prophet Muhammad (SallAllahu alaihi wasalam) said:

"My similitude and that of the life of this world is that of a traveler who took a rest at mid-day under a shade of a tree and then left it."       (Ahmad, at-Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah and al-Hakim)

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07-24-2015, 11:58 AM #6
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I have reduced my efforts for everyone over 40 YO because they can't deal with cognitive dissonance well enough. Something that I associate with the reduced plasticity of their brains. Loops are hard to destroy. Mostly a waste of time except for those with affinities to those concept (and a few exceptions)

ahhh those kids on the internet, what you are saying doesn't match what my masters tell me on the teevee and what I learned in University in the 80s...kind of things

In general people react really badly to living the lie.

What I like the most is telling communist/socialist public servant that their pension is rolled in Wall Street and in Bonds that are debts on the back of their children. Just grasping that usually send them in such a spin that it's just funny.
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07-24-2015, 01:00 PM #7
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(07-24-2015, 11:58 AM)leconnaisseur Wrote:  I have reduced my efforts for everyone over 40 YO because they can't deal with cognitive dissonance well enough. Something that I associate with the reduced plasticity of their brains. Loops are hard to destroy. Mostly a waste of time except for those with affinities to those concept (and a few exceptions)

ahhh those kids on the internet, what you are saying doesn't match what my masters tell me on the teevee and what I learned in University in the 80s...kind of things

In general people react really badly to living the lie.

What I like the most is telling communist/socialist public servant that their pension is rolled in Wall Street and in Bonds that are debts on the back of their children. Just grasping that usually send them in such a spin that it's just funny.

It's easier to believe repeated lies no matter how big than the simple truth.

Prophet Muhammad (SallAllahu alaihi wasalam) said:

"My similitude and that of the life of this world is that of a traveler who took a rest at mid-day under a shade of a tree and then left it."       (Ahmad, at-Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah and al-Hakim)


07-24-2015, 01:02 PM #8
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I am the only one in my family who really looks into this stuff. My sister has displayed hostility and disgust the few times I mentioned alternative sites and views. My mother is more accepting of what I do, but still does not really read outside mainstream news. So, I generally keep quiet about this stuff around them. My social and communication skills, including coming up with things to say on the fly, are quite poor, so I am not even sure how I would go about telling them anyway. And believe me, seeing this stuff, there are certainly times when I myself would rather still be asleep, so I can certainly empathize with them. On top of that, with so many sites giving different views on things, it is difficult to be absolutely sure what is right. It would not really be a good idea to tell others of this stuff if you are not certain of it yourself. I look at stuff all over the place, so I am certainly not an expert in any field. Interestingly enough, though, they are both fully convinced that the official story of the JFK assassination is a lie, among a few others. Ironic then that they do not question the official story of 9/11.
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07-24-2015, 01:10 PM #9
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(07-24-2015, 01:00 PM)Kung Fu Wrote:  
(07-24-2015, 11:58 AM)leconnaisseur Wrote:  I have reduced my efforts for everyone over 40 YO because they can't deal with cognitive dissonance well enough. Something that I associate with the reduced plasticity of their brains. Loops are hard to destroy. Mostly a waste of time except for those with affinities to those concept (and a few exceptions)

ahhh those kids on the internet, what you are saying doesn't match what my masters tell me on the teevee and what I learned in University in the 80s...kind of things

In general people react really badly to living the lie.

What I like the most is telling communist/socialist public servant that their pension is rolled in Wall Street and in Bonds that are debts on the back of their children. Just grasping that usually send them in such a spin that it's just funny.

It's easier to believe repeated lies no matter how big than the simple truth.

Yes,

Repetition, apparent social 'consensus' and the echo chamber will take care of 90% of the population.

That's why everybody is shilling facebook and twitter without getting paid...

07-24-2015, 04:32 PM #10
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(07-24-2015, 09:21 AM)The Creeper Wrote:  Im the only one in my family who looks up these kinds of things and takes it seriously.

My brother is open to these kinds of things and I have had conversations with him about it but I don't think he has ever done any research. Most young people seem to be aware that there is something wrong with the world today even if they don't realise what it is.

I have tried to explain it to my mum, several times, but she is fully indoctrinated into the system (bless her) and thinks this is how the world is supposed to be. She always has my back so I don't like to upset her, which is why I don't tell her anything she doesn't need/want to know.

Some people have called me "the caveman" which would make my dad positively prehistoric by comparison. I love my dad but I can't have a deep conversation with the man without him thinking im weak or an idiot so I don't bother.

Most of my family disowned me when I was on the drugs so I don't really speak to them that much...

I can talk to my friends about this stuff but I don't really have that many friends. I have always been a "people person". For a long time I hated everyone, including myself (I still do to a certain extent but I don't let it rule me). At the end of the day it just isn't worth it, all I want is some peace. I might only know true happiness when im dead.

Sorry about putting the downer on your thread bro.

Wow, thanks for sharing your story. I guess we all come from different paths, but it's the mutual goal that we all have that had us united here, and I think it's good that we can support each other when needed and talk about stuff how "insane" they may appear.

(07-24-2015, 01:02 PM)All Creation Wrote:  I am the only one in my family who really looks into this stuff. My sister has displayed hostility and disgust the few times I mentioned alternative sites and views. My mother is more accepting of what I do, but still does not really read outside mainstream news. So, I generally keep quiet about this stuff around them. My social and communication skills, including coming up with things to say on the fly, are quite poor, so I am not even sure how I would go about telling them anyway. And believe me, seeing this stuff, there are certainly times when I myself would rather still be asleep, so I can certainly empathize with them. On top of that, with so many sites giving different views on things, it is difficult to be absolutely sure what is right. It would not really be a good idea to tell others of this stuff if you are not certain of it yourself. I look at stuff all over the place, so I am certainly not an expert in any field. Interestingly enough, though, they are both fully convinced that the official story of the JFK assassination is a lie, among a few others. Ironic then that they do not question the official story of 9/11.

I have a friend that actually got me into this "field" in the first place several years ago, introducing me to Jesse Ventura.

He knows the truth, but seems to have one foot in each side of reality.

He knows that there are a few that run things, but he also seems to believe in the political system and watch every debate and really believe that voting will result in major change.

So you could say he's half-man, half-sheep.

I reject Fakebook, Twatter and those shitty sites, and when my girlfriend ask me who I'm talking to, I just say that I'm on a site discussing pretty much everything which isn't a lie.

I was surprised when her sister last winter brought up Illuminati and the music industry. I always considered her to be one of the most ignorant people when it comes to world view, but man, did she take me by surprise.

I wish it had it like you Kung Fu, where these stuff would be discussed at the dinner table like it wasn't more controversial than talking about how my day at work was.
This post was last modified: 07-24-2015, 04:44 PM by Briandao.

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