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11-22-2016, 06:01 PM #1
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Marine in the lead link is here:

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If we knew our power, we would see what everybody sees, that we're rich already!"
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11-23-2016, 07:35 AM #2
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It's possible.  She must get over 50% of the vote though in the first round and keep it in order to do so. 

If Italy votes unfavourably for continued EUSSR membership then the Bolshevik super state will collapse. 

Quote:Le Pen is in front of the Presidential race.  Fillon will be the Republique candidate. 

Hungarian Jew sarkohzy was eliminated in the first round. 

Le Pen must win over 50% of the vote in the first round of voting next year to win.  If she doesn't the socialists will put their vote behind Fillon to thwart her chance at victory in the second round.

The cluster f*** that is Europe now with austerity from the Brussels banksters, hated mass immigration and economic woes wil only see suppport for nationalists rise. 

Socialism always fails and Jews never know when to stop 


‘In French presidential elections, it will be Marine Le Pen’s to lose’
Published time: 21 Nov, 2016 12:46

National Front (FN) leader Marie Le Pen is speaking to the issues that people are concerned about. In other words, the declining standard of living, the lack of real job creation, Jack Rasmus, Professor of Political Economy at St. Mary's College, told RT.



The French political landscape is heading for some dramatic changes as former Prime Ministers Alain Juppe and Francois Fillon are heading for the second round of the Republican primaries following a national vote.


Ex-President Nicolas Sarkozy has already been eliminated from the running.

Meanwhile, polls in the build-up to the primaries showed National Front (FN) leader Marie Le Pen ahead in the first round of next year’s vote.

Le Pen has said that if she wins the presidential elections, the world will become a safer place, as France will cooperate with both US President-elect Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“The forces at work in these various elections are ideas, forces which could bring about my election as the president of France next May,” Le Pen said last week.

Fillon, 62, has based his campaign on a program of economic reform – dumping France’s controversial 35-hour week, increasing the retirement age, and cutting public spending, in an effort to spark economic rejuvenation.
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/367640-french...ns-le-pen/
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11-23-2016, 01:27 PM #3
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It's practically impossible for the FN to get 50% of the vote. Second round is fixed against them, so I'd put my money on Alain Juppé.

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11-23-2016, 04:12 PM #4
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I hear you, but this has been a strange year so far and that would be kind of great to see. Will look at Le Monde and Figaro to see what's next.

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If we knew our power, we would see what everybody sees, that we're rich already!"
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11-23-2016, 08:09 PM #5
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(11-23-2016, 01:27 PM)Artful Revealer Wrote:  It's practically impossible for the FN to get 50% of the vote. Second round is fixed against them, so I'd put my money on Alain Juppé.
That's what I thought. 

FN is currently at about 30% support 

Quote:And the shock surveys released this week show that, in the first round of voting, the anti-immigration politician would beat Mr Fillon by 29 per cent to 20 per cent, and Mr Juppé by a narrower margin of 30 per cent to 26 per cent. 


But in the second round she'd get smashed 

Quote:But polling carried out earlier this year envisaging possible second round scenarios showed that, when it came down to a final two, voters would rally to the moderate candidate with Mr Fillon beating Ms Le Pen by 61 per cent to 39 per cent, and Mr Juppé winning by 68 per cent to 32 per cent. 

11-23-2016, 11:38 PM #6
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http://www.politico.eu/article/why-franc...ne-le-pen/

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If we knew our power, we would see what everybody sees, that we're rich already!"
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11-24-2016, 01:27 AM #7
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(11-23-2016, 08:09 PM)Stride Wrote:  
(11-23-2016, 01:27 PM)Artful Revealer Wrote:  It's practically impossible for the FN to get 50% of the vote. Second round is fixed against them, so I'd put my money on Alain Juppé.
That's what I thought. 

FN is currently at about 30% support 

Quote:And the shock surveys released this week show that, in the first round of voting, the anti-immigration politician would beat Mr Fillon by 29 per cent to 20 per cent, and Mr Juppé by a narrower margin of 30 per cent to 26 per cent. 


But in the second round she'd get smashed 

Quote:But polling carried out earlier this year envisaging possible second round scenarios showed that, when it came down to a final two, voters would rally to the moderate candidate with Mr Fillon beating Ms Le Pen by 61 per cent to 39 per cent, and Mr Juppé winning by 68 per cent to 32 per cent. 

I'm no expert on French politics but with what has happened in France since the last election, Bataclan, Charlie Hebdo, Nice etc....etc and all the other Jihadi attacks the French must be mad not to vote for her.

She should have the over 50s in the bag, and as Brexit and Trump showed, you can't trust the polls.

11-25-2016, 06:06 AM #8
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France: Fake “Conservatives” Step Up

NOVEMBER 25, 2016 

BY TNO STAFF— IN EUROPE 

The French establishment will choose one of two fake “conservatives” to put up against the Front National’s Marine le Pen in the 2017 presidential election: Alain Juppé, a convicted embezzler who had been barred from holding public office, and François Fillon, an open supporter of the Islamic colonization of France.

Juppé was convicted in 2004 of embezzling public funds, sentenced to prison, and barred from holding public office for ten years, while Fillon personally inaugurated France’s largest mosque in 2010, and at the opening ceremony, spoke glowingly of the Islamic colonization of that country.

The move to put the two fake conservatives forward was taken after opinion polls showed that the till then preferred “conservative” candidate, former president Nicolas Sarkozy, would be utterly defeated by Le Pen.

As a result, Sarkozy was unceremoniously booted out of the French “conservative” primaries held last week, losing his party’s (Les Républicains) nomination battle by a landslide. Fillon will now face Juppé in Les Républicains primary run-off on November 27.

It is generally acknowledged that Le Pen will certainly win the first round of the presidential elections, but faces a struggle to win the second, which is held if no one candidate takes more than 50 percent of the vote during the first round.

The second round is held between only the first and second placed candidates from the first round, and in such circumstances it has become standard practice for the communists, liberals, and conservatives to suddenly realize that they are all actually the same, and then vote against any FN candidate.

Fillon’s nomination has however merely given more ammunition to the FN campaign. The party immediately started reminding voters that when Fillon was Prime Minister of France, he had personally inaugurated the largest mosque in France and had spoken glowingly of Islam as “France’s second religion.”




According to a transcript of his speech, given on June 28, 2010, when he cut the ribbon to mark the opening of the largest mosque in France in Argenteuil, northwest Paris, Fillon said that Islam had made an “essential contribution to the industrial development of our country” and that the “Argenteuil New Mosque reflects the vitality of the Muslim community in France.”

"I want to tell you how you can, how you should be proud of this achievement, which reflects the serene registration of Islam in the national landscape.”

Fillon went on to boast that the number of mosques in France had risen from 100 in 1970, to over 2,000 in 2010, and that the “French Council of the Muslim Faith is definitely part of our institutional landscape.”

Juppé, on the other hand, was Prime Minister of France from 1995 to 1997 under President Jacques Chirac, during which period he faced major strikes that paralyzed the country, and he personally became very unpopular.

In 2004, Juppé was tried for the felony of abuse of public funds, when he illegally used personnel provided by the City of Paris for running the operations of his then party, the Rassemblement pour la République (“Rally for the Republic”).

He was convicted and sentenced to an 18-month suspended jail sentence, the deprivation of civic rights for five years, and the deprivation of the right to run for political office for 10 years.

Upon appeal, the disqualification from holding elected office was reduced to one year and the suspended sentence cut to 14 months.

Whoever wins the Les Républicains nomination—most likely to be Fillon—will go up against Marine le Pen. The far left is too weak to stand any chance at all, and so the second round will therefore be between one of these two fake conservatives and Marine le Pen.

While all official opinion polls still show the second round combined communist/liberal/conservative vote beating Le Pen, some political observers have predicted that a surprise upset is possible.

http://newobserveronline.com/france-fake-conservatives-step/
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11-27-2016, 04:23 PM #9
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Juppé has been cast out for being part of the old establishment. Fillon will be the Republican candidate for 2017, so we probably know the next French president now. He's more Catholic, less anti-Russian and more keen on national sovereignty, so a mild outflow of the Trump wave has reached France. I remain suspicious though, since he could very well be the candidate the Republicans needed to steal votes from the FN.
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Faith receives, love gives. No one will be able to receive without faith. No one will be able to give without love. Because of this, in order that we may indeed receive, we believe, and in order that we may love, we give, since if one gives without love, he has no profit from what he has given. He who has received something other than the Lord is still a Hebrew. - Gospel of Philip