(09-23-2016, 01:43 PM)Kung Fu Wrote:
(09-23-2016, 01:00 PM)The Zone Wrote: Prison demographics alone do not make for tension. The tension is more so with police alone but not necessarily white and black people. If I am not mistaken, you live in Canada, thus have not actually lived here. Believe me, actually seeing things on a daily basis adds to insight. You say America is targeting blacks, yet Obama is hardly letting that happen per changed policies. Again, you have fallen to perception via one major source, that being media. Are you saying you trust what you read be they statistics or media - I know you are not.
I study crime for a living and when looking at prison demographics and the way black communities are policed, I can tell you that there's tension. Black people are not getting up and rioting for no reason. Decades of tension build up and people are expressing it in any way they know how. I don't need Obama and his policies when prisons are full of black people when they make a very small percentage of the population and when they're the target of this war on drugs (as if white people don't use drugs), and when their communities are overly policed while white suburb areas remain policeless. Obama has done nothing to help black people and never will.
I don't listen to the media I actually study it. I get my information from peer-reviewed journal articles and from my educational background.
Do you think during the Civil Rights Movement that there was no tension and that blacks and white authorities got along all dandy?
America has a system-racism problem and sooner people realize this the better we'll be able to move on and fix it so black people don't have a reason to go protest and then give other morons the chance to riot.
EDIT: the reason it's rearing its "ugly head" now is because people take videos of all the injustice that're happening and the media jumps right on it and takes advantage of it in order to meet the needs of the elite. Smartphones and social media have completely changed the name of the game. Cops and their biased departments can't get away with all the nonsense they commit and people are seeing it now.
I disagree completely with some points. Firstly, my Dad was right in the middle of the original civil rights movement as were family members. It was different then. Much different. Blacks were fighting for simple rights of dignity. Yes, it was ugly but there was big time change over time and today they are being instigated more so with perception than facts. The issue now is not with black and white people but police and black people which is what I tried to make clear. During the Civil Rights movement which I studied ad nauseum, the police were dominated by whites. Now, it is much, much , much more diverse. I mean, it was a black officer that shot the guy in Charlotte....so...
You have to face some facts here. That being that cities have more blacks, therefore it is where most crime is committed due to a condensed volume of people with a larger police presence. The redneck in the outskirts of town peddling crystal meth does not deal with a condensed police presence, Stats alone are worthless without some realization of intangible factors.
Quite frankly, you have already fallen prey to perception in that not all cops nor police stations are biased. If you really think that look up the demographics of police officers ion Charlotte, compare it to the actual stats on people living there and get back to me.
I am appalled when I see racists of any kind, black, white, brown, pink or purple. Bad or ignorant people are just that, but any forced agenda will cause tension. You say Obama has done nothing to help black people, yet he has allowed this agenda to move forward with no control so that there might actually be martial law. It is true that he has not helped in many ways though and I will concede that after further review.
I respect your opinion, but I live here. I work with people with lesser means. I see people getting along much better than your stats can show you. I don't see a bunch of klan folks or black militants. In the world you are referring to, why is that... I am a worldly, well travelled person that is familiar with the region. I am not saying blacks do not have more rights to gain nor that police aren't human and show the bad sides of human nature at times. BUT....but, if you get your wish and the bad old police are held accountable for some real, yet many perceived atrocities then we will all be under control of government troops with police disbanded. Now. That is what this agenda and trumped up perception will lead to and that is by design. Be careful what you wish for and what you believe