(07-25-2016, 05:19 PM)Lisa Wrote: It's a fight over the truth.
Truth shouldn't need defending. It is inherently self evident.
While I agree one should convey their perspectives and afford an alternate reflection for consideration, there is no need for it to be forced, shoved or smothered in the face of others. This post of course isn't aimed at you personally Lisa, however from the perspective of an external observer (not necessarily me) who sees all the incessant squabbling and mud slinging over theology, it reeks of insecurity. Unfortunately it becomes apparent that it is a game of who wins the internet debate for a few points, of overcoming your opponent through intellectual prowess and words, in an ever perpetual cycle of ego masturbation. Never mind actually learning or genuinely listening to what the other person has to say; the very concept is blasphemy.
One who is content with their beliefs and ideas has no need to proselytise, or claim their ideas are right and the other is wrong. Rather, those beliefs and ideals, if true and is genuinely beneficial, would transform a person automatically, as they would be the embodiment of that message. It is the persons actions and demeanour (the 'fruits') which therefore convey the essence of the beliefs The age old axiom 'actions speak louder than words' is ever so true. When you're calling people trolls, shills, retards or other such names, not respecting the inherent integrity of that person (regardless of theological differences), it truly speaks volumes about the personal 'transformative' effects of the doctrine you claim as true.
Want people to know X beliefs are the right ones? Prove it, through your own actions. People will naturally gravitate towards those who carry certain qualities. They will ask and wonder how a person is able to act in such and such a way, and why they seem so peaceful and content. Those individuals will naturally want that for themselves, and so they will begin the process of inquiry as to how said individual is able to achieve such a state. That is when dialogue can ensue for ideas that are beneficial, containing some semblance of 'truth' for that person, arise. If you cannot do that, then there's a message there.
I use the term 'beliefs' loosely, as a more apt descriptor is merely 'framework'. People utilise different frameworks in order to 'frame' their experience of reality. If one framework works for you and another for someone else, great! Who cares, really. So long as it is beneficial, allows you to process your experiences in an efficient manner, promotes positive, constructive, loving and healthy relationships with yourself and others, does it matter really? Unless of course you believe otherwise, but then that's your issue, and not someone else's.
Anyway, us so-called 'new age satanists' aren't needed on the boards. Some do a fantastically great job here of turning people off religion altogether with one look at some of the threads here, so we appreciate the job being done for us! ;-).