(06-24-2015, 08:34 AM)Tarikko Wrote:
(06-24-2015, 08:11 AM)Todd Wrote: Not necessary....if God is good and has good intentions for his creation, then the evil we experience in this temporary realm is enough for us to appreciate the goodness of God in the ages to come. We have all the "duality" we need in this lifetime.
The prospect of Heaven and Hell does nothing to make people behave better. Look at the "religious" people who supposedly believe in Hell, and how messed up and evil they can be.
Consequences in this lifetime are more effective at keeping non-psychotic people from doing "wrong", then any notion of punishment in the the next age.
Those people you are referring to as religious do not categorize as religious Todd, rather they fit the Hypocrites category.
Try and make a distinction between God fearing/loving, religious people and those who take their faith as a cover (hypocrites)
For example a man who goes to church/mosque yet deny the poor, speaks badly behind people's back, lies.... is not religious.. this is a Hypocrite. At the end of the day, he ain't fooling anyone except himself
We are on the same page...just a matter of semantics. When I use the term religious, it's usually in a derogatory sense. I tend to equate the term "religion" with organized, institutional, rigid belief systems, contrasted to a living faith / personal relationship with God.
From my perspective, I reserve the term hypocrite, for someone who is blatantly and intentionally doing evil in the name of "good".
The term "religious", I reserve for people stuck in a rigid, belief system, that are more or less ignorant of the truth. Their intentions may be innocent, but they are caught in lifeless, ritual and following a set of dead rules rather than experiencing a living relationship with God.
I understand that you do not use the term in that manner, and that you use the term "religious" in a respectful manner to describe someone who is sincere in their faith. It is not my desire to offend or show disrespect.
So do you have a suggestion of a better word, for the second group of people I described above?
Then shall the king say to those on his right hand, Come ye, the blessed of my Father, inherit the reign that hath been prepared for you from the foundation of the world;
And the king answering, shall say to them, Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as ye did to one of these my brethren -- the least -- to me ye did