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02-26-2016, 08:09 PM #1
TonyVanDam
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If you need specifics:

Why and how is being a non-believer such an evil thing?

Why and how is using science such an evil thing?

Why and how is using logic such an evil thing?

02-26-2016, 11:28 PM #2
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None of them are evil?  More so the method in which they are used constitutes the good or evil.  Being a non believer from my POV isn't evil but a choice based in ignorance or logic or whatever someone chooses instead of belief in something.

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Isaiah 55:8-9 KJV For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord . [9] For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
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02-26-2016, 11:51 PM #3
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Ignorance is required for belief, tho.

02-26-2016, 11:58 PM #4
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(02-26-2016, 08:09 PM)TonyVanDam Wrote:  Why and how is being a non-believer such an evil thing?
Why, because its ungrateful.  Everything you have ever received and everything you will ever get till the day you enter the ground only reaches you by the will of the most high.

Disbelief leads to an evil place, an eternal one.



Quote:Why and how is using science such an evil thing?

Who says science is an evil thing?  For that matter who says religion should ever be illogical when it comes from an all knowing, all wise Creator?  The Quran is constantly reminding man to think, reflect and ponder on his own existence.  

The Quran mentions a multitude of things modern man has only recently realized.

Such as the expanding universe / big bang theory.  

"And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander." [51:47]



It draws attention to fingertips, which we know today every man, woman and childs are unique.

"Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones? Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his fingers." [75:2-3]


It mentions how the moon is a reflecting source of light, not a producing one.






I can go on, earth being egg shaped, descriptions of embryology, ect. but I won't for times sake.

Whats miraculous is the Quran was revealed through an illiterate man in the desert 1400 years ago.  He could not write his own name let alone have knowledge of these topics.

As i have pointed out, these are modern day science confirmations. Reaffirmed by religion, reaffirmed by Islam.  


"Do they not ponder the Qur’an? Had it been from other than God, they would have found in it a great deal of discrepancy. [4:82]"



Quote:Why and how is using logic such an evil thing?
Doing a quick search on Quran dot com...
"reflect" appears 32 times in the Quran.
"ponder" appears  8 times.
"think" appears 109 times.
"give thought" appears 578 times.

If you consider yourself an intellectual why don't you check out these books.
The Bible, the Quran and Science.
and
Have you read this book

I am unable to find a link for the second one but I'm sure you can find if through your local libraries international loan system.

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02-27-2016, 12:11 AM #5
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Zomg scmi call off your army.
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02-27-2016, 12:22 AM #6
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(02-27-2016, 12:11 AM)FlixKandish Wrote:  Zomg scmi call off your army.
Thats cute, I'm not affiliated with Scmi.  I'm pretty sure the other 1,800,000,000 Muslims on the planet aren't either.  Well maybe a handful are.

I'm sorry if i hurt your brain by suggesting you use it.  You can go back to sleep.  


"And when they see an Ayah (a sign, a proof, or an evidence) from Allah, they mock at it."[37:14]


Cya on judgement day  Tongue
"So they mock at them (believers), Allah will throw back their mockery on them, and they shall have a painful torment."[9:79]

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miss me and that what misses me was never meant for me"

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02-27-2016, 12:22 AM #7
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(02-26-2016, 08:09 PM)TonyVanDam Wrote:  If you need specifics:

Why and how is being a non-believer such an evil thing?

Why and how is using science such an evil thing?

Why and how is using logic such an evil thing?

A non believer is still in sin and not saved, according to the Bible. And it's not good to be in sin against God. 

What is the context for wondering if science and logic is evil?

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.  1John 4:1

Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. 1 Peter 5:8

02-27-2016, 12:24 AM #8
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So muslims want us to burn forever and Christians believe we have broken invisible laws. 


This is why we can't COEXIST.

02-27-2016, 12:30 AM #9
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(02-27-2016, 12:22 AM)Lisa Wrote:  
(02-26-2016, 08:09 PM)TonyVanDam Wrote:  If you need specifics:

Why and how is being a non-believer such an evil thing?

Why and how is using science such an evil thing?

Why and how is using logic such an evil thing?

A non believer is still in sin and not saved, according to the Bible.
And it's not good to be in sin against God. 

What is the context for wondering if science and logic is evil?

But what about your specifically Lisa? According to you and only you, why and how is being a non-believer such an evil thing?

02-27-2016, 12:30 AM #10
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(02-27-2016, 12:24 AM)FlixKandish Wrote:  So muslims want us to burn forever and Christians believe we have broken invisible laws. 


This is why we can't COEXIST.

Bono thinks we could-lol!

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.  1John 4:1

Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. 1 Peter 5:8