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06-17-2015, 10:15 AM #1
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This is the kind I identify with (I am not a Calvinist, though I identify as Baptist) :

V.  Calvinist Zionists
This group, led by your Editor, believe the beloved Hebrew/Jewish/Israelites have the right to live in their ancient promised land to the exclusion of all other races and nations.  However, we also oppose the pope’s Masonic Jewish Labor Zionist government ruling the pope’s Revived Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem for the reasons stated above.  We side with the late Rabbi Meir Kahane who proposed that Israel should be only for Jews and that the Arabs should be gradually removed from the nation while given money to effect the transition.  For this, in addition to Kahane’s warning to New York Jews of their impending death in North America, he was murdered by an Arab assassin sent by the pope’s CIA.  Hence, the Calvinist Zionists take the Biblical view of defending the right of the Hebrew/Jewish/Israelites to both live in their land and to be governed by their own patriots seeking the good of their people in their nation.


Compare this to your average Joe:

IV.  Christian Zionists
This group, led by men such as Billy Graham, John Hagee, Pat Robertson and a host of other “Christian ministers” defend both the pope’s CFR/Vatican-led government of Israel as well as the right of the Hebrew/Jewish/Israelites to live in their own land to the exclusion of all other races and nations.  Your Editor, sorry to say, was once a Christian Zionist.  These men are half-wrong and half-right: they back the wicked government of the pope’s “Revived Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem,” but help in every way possible for Jews to remain in their land.  These heretics refuse to acknowledge Rome’s rule over Jerusalem to the detriment of the Jews bound by the glorious and everlasting Abrahamic Covenant.  They will never face the fact that the pope’s government ruling Israel has murdered its own people, refused to end the Arab-Israeli agitation, has attacked the American Naval Vessel USS Liberty (on orders of Masonic Jesuit coadjutor Lyndon Johnson), and whose Mossad is the right arm of the pope’s CIA in the region.  Many Protestants and Baptists are fighting the pope’s American-led 12th Crusade against the Muslims (the Shia Muslims) believing they are obeying the Word of God (OT and NT) defending the right of the Hebrews to live in their land.  The fact is these Christian Zionists are creating worldwide anti-Jewish fury by refusing to address the wicked government of Israel ruled by the pope’s Masonic Jewish Labor Zionists for the benefit of that antichrist in Rome, Pope Benedict XVI.

06-17-2015, 11:19 AM #2
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Jesus was the "promised land", He is Israel, not a piece of dirt

06-17-2015, 12:35 PM #3
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Where in the Bible does it say that?  The Jews were promised that physical land.  In fact their Sabbath foreshadowed our rest in Christ.

06-17-2015, 01:14 PM #4
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lolz Alexandra. you've made mince meat of biblical understanding of the term "Israel".

Israel was the Prophet Jacob (pbuh), and hence forth, his descendants who kept their covenant with God, not those who broke it and were forced out of the fold for a period of time.

As for the land of the Jews, it was NEVER called Israel in antiquity - nope - it was in fact called Judah,

God does not play games, HE is not whimsical, and He ensures that those who cause corruptions in scriptural understanding will forever be exposed by their lack of contextual understanding and their constant bastardization of scriptural ideas.

No one can prove that Israel is ever meant to be a physically bordered land - but it is indeed very simple to prove that Israel is a spiritual idea and understanding which is carried in the heart.

You are a compromised person, BIG TIME... and I will constantly prove it over and over again here in VC... just you wait and see... please bring your friends to help you - because you guys need more help against one of me.

Scimi
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06-17-2015, 01:59 PM #5
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(06-17-2015, 01:14 PM)Scimitar Wrote:  lolz Alexandra. you've made mince meat of biblical understanding of the term "Israel".

Israel was the Prophet Jacob (pbuh), and hence forth, his descendants who kept their covenant with God, not those who broke it and were forced out of the fold for a period of time.

As for the land of the Jews, it was NEVER called Israel in antiquity - nope - it was in fact called Judah,

God does not play games, HE is not whimsical, and He ensures that those who cause corruptions in scriptural understanding will forever be exposed by their lack of contextual understanding and their constant bastardization of scriptural ideas.

No one  can prove that Israel is ever meant to be a physically bordered land - but it is indeed very simple to prove that Israel is a spiritual idea and understanding which is carried in the heart.

You are a compromised person, BIG TIME... and I will constantly prove it over and over again here in VC... just you wait and see... please bring your friends to help you - because you guys need more help against one of me.

Scimi

Make that two of us Akhi Smile
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06-17-2015, 04:59 PM #6
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(06-17-2015, 10:15 AM)Alexandra Wrote:  http://vaticanassassins.org/2012/05/21/h...e-are-you/

This is the kind I identify with (I am not a Calvinist, though I identify as Baptist) :

V.  Calvinist Zionists
This group, led by your Editor, believe the beloved Hebrew/Jewish/Israelites have the right to live in their ancient promised land to the exclusion of all other races and nations.  However, we also oppose the pope’s Masonic Jewish Labor Zionist government ruling the pope’s Revived Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem for the reasons stated above.  We side with the late Rabbi Meir Kahane who proposed that Israel should be only for Jews and that the Arabs should be gradually removed from the nation while given money to effect the transition.  For this, in addition to Kahane’s warning to New York Jews of their impending death in North America, he was murdered by an Arab assassin sent by the pope’s CIA.  Hence, the Calvinist Zionists take the Biblical view of defending the right of the Hebrew/Jewish/Israelites to both live in their land and to be governed by their own patriots seeking the good of their people in their nation.


Compare this to your average Joe:

IV.  Christian Zionists
This group, led by men such as Billy Graham, John Hagee, Pat Robertson and a host of other “Christian ministers” defend both the pope’s CFR/Vatican-led government of Israel as well as the right of the Hebrew/Jewish/Israelites to live in their own land to the exclusion of all other races and nations.  Your Editor, sorry to say, was once a Christian Zionist.  These men are half-wrong and half-right: they back the wicked government of the pope’s “Revived Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem,” but help in every way possible for Jews to remain in their land.  These heretics refuse to acknowledge Rome’s rule over Jerusalem to the detriment of the Jews bound by the glorious and everlasting Abrahamic Covenant.  They will never face the fact that the pope’s government ruling Israel has murdered its own people, refused to end the Arab-Israeli agitation, has attacked the American Naval Vessel USS Liberty (on orders of Masonic Jesuit coadjutor Lyndon Johnson), and whose Mossad is the right arm of the pope’s CIA in the region.  Many Protestants and Baptists are fighting the pope’s American-led 12th Crusade against the Muslims (the Shia Muslims) believing they are obeying the Word of God (OT and NT) defending the right of the Hebrews to live in their land.  The fact is these Christian Zionists are creating worldwide anti-Jewish fury by refusing to address the wicked government of Israel ruled by the pope’s Masonic Jewish Labor Zionists for the benefit of that antichrist in Rome, Pope Benedict XVI.

Ummm... this quiz. REALLY? lol...

(06-17-2015, 01:59 PM)Tarikko Wrote:  
(06-17-2015, 01:14 PM)Scimitar Wrote:  lolz Alexandra. you've made mince meat of biblical understanding of the term "Israel".

Israel was the Prophet Jacob (pbuh), and hence forth, his descendants who kept their covenant with God, not those who broke it and were forced out of the fold for a period of time.

As for the land of the Jews, it was NEVER called Israel in antiquity - nope - it was in fact called Judah,

God does not play games, HE is not whimsical, and He ensures that those who cause corruptions in scriptural understanding will forever be exposed by their lack of contextual understanding and their constant bastardization of scriptural ideas.

No one  can prove that Israel is ever meant to be a physically bordered land - but it is indeed very simple to prove that Israel is a spiritual idea and understanding which is carried in the heart.

You are a compromised person, BIG TIME... and I will constantly prove it over and over again here in VC... just you wait and see... please bring your friends to help you - because you guys need more help against one of me.

Scimi

Make that two of us Akhi Smile

3rd Big Grin
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06-17-2015, 08:10 PM #7
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I'm a Zionist in the sense that all people have the right to a sovereign nation with complete self-determination. I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't include Jews. But Israel is illegit, taken from the indigenous against their will, continuously colonized. A land created by a corrupt organization, justified by a massive lie, based on a historical possibility (not fact) drawn purely from religious texts, that Eretz Yisrael stretching from the Nile to the Euphrates was ever a reality, not to mention the superstition that it was promised to them by God.

Oh yeah, and it's the most racist country on the planet.

It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired - you quit when the gorilla is tired.

06-17-2015, 09:21 PM #8
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So what's wrong with racism?  As in wanting to be with others like you?  We're hard-wired for that.  I agree that persecuting someone for being of another race is wrong, but other than that...trying to eradicate "racism" is part of the NWO plan.  You can't have a one-world government when different nations/tribes want to stay homogeneous.

Seems to me we have some Muslim plants.  The pbuh stuff gives you away every time.  Muhammad is dead, folks, but Jesus is alive!

06-17-2015, 09:31 PM #9
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No prophet of God is dead, they are with God... some just haven't died a physical death yet - like Jesus pbuh, but even he has to die when he comes back - which puts your understanding back in the loony bin lol

Muslims plants lol - at least we fruit unlike your bitter wilting Big Grin

Scimi

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of wrong-doing,


and right-doing,

there is a field...

...I'll meet you there.
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06-17-2015, 10:07 PM #10
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Scimi, Scimi, Scimi ... you're the one who has made mincemeat.

Quote:As for the land of the Jews, it was NEVER called Israel in antiquity - nope

1 Samuel 13:19 Now there was no smith found throughout all the land of Israel: for the Philistines said, Lest the Hebrews make them swords or spears:

1 Chronicles 22:2 And David commanded to gather together the strangers that were in the land of Israel; and he set masons to hew wrought stones to build the house of God.

2 Chronicles 2:17 And Solomon numbered all the strangers that were in the land of Israel,

Ezekiel 40:2 In the visions of God brought he me into the land of Israel, and set me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the south.

Ezekiel 47:18 And the east side ye shall measure from Hauran, and from Damascus, and from Gilead, and from the land of Israel by Jordan, from the border unto the east sea. And this is the east side.

Quote:God does not play games, HE is not whimsical, and He ensures that those who cause corruptions in scriptural understanding will forever be exposed by their lack of contextual understanding and their constant bastardization of scriptural ideas.

I couldn't agree more, which is why it's a terrible thing you are doing, and if I were you, I'd be concerned.

Quote:No one  can prove that Israel is ever meant to be a physically bordered land

It was God who set the borders.  He was pretty clear about them, too.  It's pretty hilarious to see you defend the authority of scripture when you clearly don't know what it says about Israel.

Genesis 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Exodus 23:31 And I will set thy bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand; and thou shalt drive them out before thee.

Numbers 34

1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2 Command the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come into the land of Canaan; (this is the land that shall fall unto you for an inheritance, even the land of Canaan with the coasts thereof)
3 Then your south quarter shall be from the wilderness of Zin along by the coast of Edom, and your south border shall be the outmost coast of the salt sea eastward:
4 And your border shall turn from the south to the ascent of Akrabbim, and pass on to Zin: and the going forth thereof shall be from the south to Kadeshbarnea, and shall go on to Hazaraddar, and pass on to Azmon:
5 And the border shall fetch a compass from Azmon unto the river of Egypt, and the goings out of it shall be at the sea.
6 And as for the western border, ye shall even have the great sea for a border: this shall be your west border.
7 And this shall be your north border: from the great sea ye shall point out for you mount Hor:
8 From mount Hor ye shall point out your border unto the entrance of Hamath; and the goings forth of the border shall be to Zedad:
9 And the border shall go on to Ziphron, and the goings out of it shall be at Hazarenan: this shall be your north border.
10 And ye shall point out your east border from Hazarenan to Shepham:
11 And the coast shall go down from Shepham to Riblah, on the east side of Ain; and the border shall descend, and shall reach unto the side of the sea of Chinnereth eastward:
12 And the border shall go down to Jordan, and the goings out of it shall be at the salt sea: this shall be your land with the coasts thereof round about.
13 And Moses commanded the children of Israel, saying, This is the land which ye shall inherit by lot, which the LORD commanded to give unto the nine tribes, and to the half tribe:
14 For the tribe of the children of Reuben according to the house of their fathers, and the tribe of the children of Gad according to the house of their fathers, have received their inheritance; and half the tribe of Manasseh have received their inheritance:
15 The two tribes and the half tribe have received their inheritance on this side Jordan near Jericho eastward, toward the sunrising.

Ezekiel 47

13 Thus saith the Lord GOD; This shall be the border, whereby ye shall inherit the land according to the twelve tribes of Israel: Joseph shall have two portions.
14 And ye shall inherit it, one as well as another: concerning the which I lifted up mine hand to give it unto your fathers: and this land shall fall unto you for inheritance.
15 And this shall be the border of the land toward the north side, from the great sea, the way of Hethlon, as men go to Zedad;
16 Hamath, Berothah, Sibraim, which is between the border of Damascus and the border of Hamath; Hazarhatticon, which is by the coast of Hauran.
17 And the border from the sea shall be Hazarenan, the border of Damascus, and the north northward, and the border of Hamath. And this is the north side.
18 And the east side ye shall measure from Hauran, and from Damascus, and from Gilead, and from the land of Israel by Jordan, from the border unto the east sea. And this is the east side.
19 And the south side southward, from Tamar even to the waters of strife in Kadesh, the river to the great sea. And this is the south side southward.
20 The west side also shall be the great sea from the border, till a man come over against Hamath. This is the west side.
21 So shall ye divide this land unto you according to the tribes of Israel.