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06-13-2015, 01:57 PM #1
TurdGolem
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No not me! I'm talking about the thing in the video below. I would've called her a female but I'm guessing it would be offensive to call her that, specially considering calling someone male, or female, is an offense nowadays. I'm not into any of this shiite, I'm a golem made out of feces... goodness, you thought I was one of those pet loving pervs?

https://youtu.be/komph9TxTbI

Anyway, for those of you that can't have the benefit of watching the video. It's a girl, wops, I mean a human, wops, I mean... a living being that apparently was born out of a man and a woman, but now decided to be a wolf thing. According to the story, a few months ago she saw some interesting wolf thing on the internet and decided: hey... this thing is kind of kewl, so, she is now a wolf...

You see... this is the problem with people nowadays. No one was there for her... no one was there to tell her she went full retard and tell her: you are wrong, that is wrong.

I think it's a problem with today's mentality, the: you're never wrong thing. What can we do to prevent this type of thing. As with the other post I made, I'm sure we can all just tell people they're idiots, but... this does not help the idiot, neither does this solve the problem. What can sane people do to prevent the spread?

Topics to discuss:
---What do you think about being transracer, should it be a cool thing? Or should people start noticing how much this "you can do whatever you want" thing is negatively affecting people.

---Considering Bruce Jenner is a national hero, should this lady not be a World Hero? Yeah... my attitude towards this is very, very similar to the random text in the video. Not apathetic but it's kind of a roll-eye situation.
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06-13-2015, 02:35 PM #2
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I can understand to a point being born one gender in a different body. Life is cursed so all types of birth defects are possible.

To be born a different species in the wrong body, that is ludicrous beyobd belief. At least in a theistic worldview where humans are of special creation, apart from animals.

06-13-2015, 02:53 PM #3
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Once upon a time, I hung out with a small coven of vampires for Detroit.  Friends of a friend,  really.  And my God, where they an interesting lot.

At the end of the day, they were just people who liked blood play.   They were convinced it was more, of course, but I'd wager when most people realize they like to play with knives in the bedroom they make up something to justify it.  I mean, would you rather be a vampire or Angelina Jolie? 

Sarcasm aside, they weren't bad people.  Strange people, sure, but most of them were decent folks.  And most importantly, even the assholes were harmless.  They even wanted to try to introduce me to Detroit's werewolf pack, because one of them was in need of a mate.  (Oh, they also thought I was a werewolf.  But to be perfectly fair, I'm pretty sure most people did.  I was a pretty feral looking person back then, before God made me cut my hair by having me lose enough that I had an skullet - and nobody wants a skullet.)

Basically, what I'm saying, is if you don't hurt anyone and don't hurt yourself, believe what you want.  There's a lot of stupid things people believe and most of them are far worse that believing you're a wolf.  Mind you, I'm not saying that the girl isn't totally nutters, but you respond to her with something like "well, of course you are, makes sense" and continue with your day.

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06-13-2015, 03:27 PM #4
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(06-13-2015, 02:53 PM)Corvus Metus Wrote:  Once upon a time, I hung out with a small coven of vampires for Detroit.  Friends of a friend,  really.  And my God, where they an interesting lot.

At the end of the day, they were just people who liked blood play.   They were convinced it was more, of course, but I'd wager when most people realize they like to play with knives in the bedroom they make up something to justify it.  I mean, would you rather be a vampire or Angelina Jolie? 

Sarcasm aside, they weren't bad people.  Strange people, sure, but most of them were decent folks.  And most importantly, even the assholes were harmless.  They even wanted to try to introduce me to Detroit's werewolf pack, because one of them was in need of a mate.  (Oh, they also thought I was a werewolf.  But to be perfectly fair, I'm pretty sure most people did.  I was a pretty feral looking person back then, before God made me cut my hair by having me lose enough that I had an skullet - and nobody wants a skullet.)

Basically, what I'm saying, is if you don't hurt anyone and don't hurt yourself, believe what you want.  There's a lot of stupid things people believe and most of them are far worse that believing you're a wolf.  Mind you, I'm not saying that the girl isn't totally nutters, but you respond to her with something like "well, of course you are, makes sense" and continue with your day.

Well said, aint my business

06-13-2015, 03:34 PM #5
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(06-13-2015, 02:53 PM)Corvus Metus Wrote:  Once upon a time, I hung out with a small coven of vampires for Detroit.  Friends of a friend,  really.  And my God, where they an interesting lot.

At the end of the day, they were just people who liked blood play.   They were convinced it was more, of course, but I'd wager when most people realize they like to play with knives in the bedroom they make up something to justify it.  I mean, would you rather be a vampire or Angelina Jolie? 

Sarcasm aside, they weren't bad people.  Strange people, sure, but most of them were decent folks.  And most importantly, even the assholes were harmless.  They even wanted to try to introduce me to Detroit's werewolf pack, because one of them was in need of a mate.  (Oh, they also thought I was a werewolf.  But to be perfectly fair, I'm pretty sure most people did.  I was a pretty feral looking person back then, before God made me cut my hair by having me lose enough that I had an skullet - and nobody wants a skullet.)

Basically, what I'm saying, is if you don't hurt anyone and don't hurt yourself, believe what you want.  There's a lot of stupid things people believe and most of them are far worse that believing you're a wolf.  Mind you, I'm not saying that the girl isn't totally nutters, but you respond to her with something like "well, of course you are, makes sense" and continue with your day.

Hmm... what can I say... I can't say I disagree with your response. I understand most of the issues for the most part. For instance, everyone did some stupid crap when we were young... "oh lord... now I feel old". But... I think there's a moment when we kind of need help, don't you think? For instance, when should we start being concerned with the pattern of "as long as they don't hurt anyone".

Let's take for instance, online interactions. Let's go to a deeper thing most of us despise "or so I hope". People looking up porn of very young individuals. Should we be concerned with such things? If they're not harming any young people, why should we be concerned? Well, it obviously begins in one place and then it transcends into other lusts that may just become more dangerous. Such is the reason why I am sometimes concerned by extreme loony behavior.

As you referenced, I don't really see this specific case as harmful, other than just mere lack of reason. But, where do we as society believe that we need to intervene to help? Granted, some of society's methods of intervention are wrong, but I'm not necessarily referencing institutionalization, but there needs to be some type of wall or response in order to prevent further chaos in their mind.


What would you do if you had a brother, or a sister that said: Well, I'm a duck. And just started going everywhere with duck whistles and dressing himself/herself as a duck. Should we just tell them: sure you are, and move on, or should we understand and look for ways to try to get them out of the mental illness falling upon them? And I would say that such attitudes are mental illnesses, for it seems that the clock is ticking on a wrong direction. Even though I disagree to some extent to the whole Bruce Jenner thing, it's mild, and yet somewhat relevant to cases like this. It seems as if people nowadays think they're entitled to be whatever they want to be, even if that means being a crocodile, or a turdgolem.

Hey... let's just take that as an example, what if I decided to just... go buy a The Thing Costumer from fantastic four, just cover it in dog poo and take a walk around town to do some grocery shopping. When someone asked me, I would just reply: Well ma'am I'm a golem made out of poo, please don't judge, Jesus says don't judge!!! "or Buddha, or Gandhi, or whatever other character people don't believe but constantly use nowadays as automatic responses"

Anyway, thanks for the reply.

06-13-2015, 08:18 PM #6
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(06-13-2015, 02:35 PM)monkt Wrote:  I can understand to a point being born one gender in a different body. Life is cursed so all types of birth defects are possible.

To be born a different species in the wrong body, that is ludicrous beyobd belief. At least in a theistic worldview where humans are of special creation, apart from animals.
Can you rationally explain why gender identity disorder is different (psychologically speaking) or more socially acceptable than species dysphoria?

It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired - you quit when the gorilla is tired.

06-13-2015, 08:36 PM #7
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Maybe she can marry the singer of Maroon 5, he seems to think hes an animal too. lool.

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06-13-2015, 11:11 PM #8
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(06-13-2015, 08:18 PM)Gorilla Wrote:  
(06-13-2015, 02:35 PM)monkt Wrote:  I can understand to a point being born one gender in a different body. Life is cursed so all types of birth defects are possible.

To be born a different species in the wrong body, that is ludicrous beyobd belief. At least in a theistic worldview where humans are of special creation, apart from animals.
Can you rationally explain why gender identity disorder is different (psychologically speaking) or more socially acceptable than species dysphoria?

Hmph... Good question. To be honest I believe there is a difference between being a homosexual man and thinking you are a woman. I truly believe it has something to do with the inability to accept reality.

For instance, I may never be able to run a mile in 6 minutes, yet I want to think I can in my mind so I just say it, but also get offended if other people simply explain my inability to do so.

Regardless, if any actual transgender or transracer, or whatever feels a need or thinks they can vouch for an adequate or reasonable argument, I would then like to hear it. Now, be mindful, we're on the internet, most people are @holes; Im a turd and the guy posting above me is a gorilla. I don't think appealing to political correctness will suffice.

With that said, have at it.

06-14-2015, 04:28 AM #9
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(06-13-2015, 08:18 PM)Gorilla Wrote:  
(06-13-2015, 02:35 PM)monkt Wrote:  I can understand to a point being born one gender in a different body. Life is cursed so all types of birth defects are possible.

To be born a different species in the wrong body, that is ludicrous beyobd belief. At least in a theistic worldview where humans are of special creation, apart from animals.
Can you rationally explain why gender identity disorder is different (psychologically speaking) or more socially acceptable than species dysphoria?

In purely theistic point of view, a Christian theism at least..animals do not have souls, so there is nothing to displace into a human body.

A human soul..say a female soul..in.theory can be displaced into a male body..and vise versa..at least in theory.

Just the same way a human soul can be born with two genatalia, or with none, pr with two heads, or two souls trapped in one body etc

In a non theistic view, based on progeny, humans cannot have animals as babies, and animals cant have human babies, so there really is little chance of full fledged animal dna to be in a human body. Even with similar dna, humans and animals dna diverge at points making the differences light years apart

06-15-2015, 07:16 AM #10
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Sounds like somebody has been watching a few too many werewolf movies. Tongue

I'm all for living in a fantasy world because sometimes reality is too harsh or even too monotonous so living in the imagination is preferable. Sometimes you have to pretend just to get through the day. But while I have thought about how interesting it would be to be one of my favorite fictional characters (human or otherwise), I'm aware I can't be because obviously it's impossible. I can pretend to be Dracula or Isaac from Children of the Corn, or anyone else I want. But deep down I'm still aware that I'm only pretending and all I'll ever REALLY be is human old me. While I see nothing wrong with using your imagination as an escape you still have to vacation to the real world every so often.




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