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Rememberence day POPPY the true meaning


11-02-2015, 05:37 AM #1
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With rememberence day fast approaching, people are encouraged to 'wear their poppy with pride'
I refuse...

http://www.illuminati-news.com/0/GatesOfHades.htm
11/11/11
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11-02-2015, 06:18 AM #2
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There is a secret meaning behind rememberance day. These kind of things just don't surprise me anymore. It makes sense if you think about that two minute silance at 11:11 on the 11th day of the 11th month. Nice article.

There is a cenotaph in my home town that honours seamen who did in WW1 and WW2. Millions of people died in those wars and they deserve to be remembered. If we don't learn from our history we are doomed to repeat it. I think some of them would be spinning in their graves if they could see some of the things that are happening today.

On a happier note, did everyone have a nice halloween the other day?

A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool – William Shakespear
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11-02-2015, 06:38 AM #3
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Well, it was the 11/11/11 = 33 that put me onto my research. It makes sense doesn't it?!
Samhain was good thanks!

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11-02-2015, 02:41 PM #4
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TL; DR but will read the rest at a time where I'm not feeling like a child waiting for a fat man in red to sneak into my house...

"Be the change you want to see in the world"

There's only one true judge and that's God; so chill and let Our Father do His job
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11-04-2015, 06:20 AM #5
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Just another occult/energy harvesting ritual, nothing new. Now queue up, sheeple and honor the fallen, yeah, rite!

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11-07-2015, 06:11 AM #6
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Indeed
It's extremely difficult to get this across to the masses, they come over all defensive about poppy day. Funny thing is though, they understand that all wars are orchestrated.

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11-07-2015, 06:56 PM #7
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It's because to them and to many war vets the poppies and Remembrance Day represents respect, honour, and appreciation for the fallen.

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11-07-2015, 09:23 PM #8
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Strange that - - for me its a reminder of how the USA sponsors heroine production in Khorasan region of the middle east.

I have so much to say on this topic but ill end up pissing on the forum if I do.

Scimi

EDIT: Ah heck, may as well...

Remembrance Day: Who are we remembering again?

Every year on the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month, a moment of silence is observed to pay homage to the fallen Allied soldiers of World War One.

Many Muslims partake in this day unaware of the origins of this event and also what impact this war had on the Muslim Ummah. As November11th approaches, Remembrance Day is upon us.
What is this day all about? Is it permissible for Muslims to participate in such an event?

The Origins of Remembrance Day

When World War One ended, an armistice agreement was signed between the Allies and Germany which took place in Paris, France on Monday, November 11th, 1918. On November 6th, 1919, George Foster, the acting Prime Minister, rose in the House of Commons to read a message from King George V:

“To all my people: Tuesday next, November 11th, is the first anniversary of the armistice which stayed the world-wide carnage of the four preceding years, and marked the victory of right and freedom. I believe that my people in every part of the Empire fervently wish to perpetuate the memory of that great deliverance and of those who laid down their lives to achieve it.”

In other words, Remembrance Day began with the end of World War One and was a day to recognize the victory of Britain, France, Russia, the United States and Italy against the Central Powers - Germany, Austria-Hungary, and the Uthmani Khilafah.

Muslims in the First World War

The advent of World War One did not go unnoticed by the Muslim Ummah. Close relations with Germany and the continued enmity towards Russia - who had invaded the northern part of the Khilafah and supported the revolt in Southern Greece (a province in the Islamic State at that time) - pushed the Khilafah into joining the Central Powers.

The Muslim Armies fought many battles in order to protect the precious Islamic lands including The Battle of Lone Pine, The Nek, The Battle of Scimitar Hill, and The Battle of Hill 60 all of which contributed to the Gallipoli Campaign.
The sacrifice of the Muslims ran high, with 131,000 martyred and 262,000 wounded.

On May 16th, 1916, Britain and France made a secret agreement as to which parts of the conquered Muslim lands each country would control.

Under the Sykes-Picot Agreement, the British and French split the Muslim land north of the Arabian Peninsula (Al-Sham) and Southern Turkey amongst themselves. Later, Italy and Russia were included in the deal.

Edmund Allenby, Commander of the V Corps in the Second Battle of Ypres worked alongside the British Agent, T.E. Lawrence, and directed the marauding forces to Palestine.

Despite the will and determination to protect one of the most sacred lands for Muslims, the Uthmani Army was defeated at Al-Quds on December 11th, 1917. An arrogant and pompous Allenby then declared, “The Crusades are now over.”

French commander Gouraud, on arrival to Damascus in 1920, immediately marched to Salahuddin al-Ayyubi’s tomb and cried, "Nous revenons, Salladin!"(We have returned, Oh Salahuddin!).

By the end of the war, the number of Muslim Soldiers killed totaled 325,000, whereas the number of civilians totaled 1,000,000.

From a historical point of view, it should be quite clear that wearing a poppy in recognition of those fallen soldiers in World War One implies support for the disbelieving colonial powers who invaded our lands, killed over 1 million Muslims, and stole our resources!

We should not, in any way, be associated with it because doing so would be similar to participating in the remembrance of the defeat of Muslims at the hands of Quraysh during the Battle of Uhud, the Mongols in Baghdad or the Crusaders in Palestine.

The Prophet (pbuh) – An Excellent Example

In eagerness to create a common ground between ourselves and the non-Muslims, we may be tempted to adopt customs and traditions from the surrounding environment. If we think that by wearing a poppy, our neighbors or bosses will think better of us, or that by wearing a poppy we are going to create a “bridge of understanding” with the non-Muslims, we need to first ask ourselves how did the Prophet (saw) relate to the non-Muslims.
We must follow his example because Allah (swt) revealed:
“And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it), and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Severe in punishment.” [59:7]

“Indeed in the Messenger of Allah you have an excellent example (to follow) for him who hopes in (the meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much.” [TMQ 33:21]

When it comes to any situation, we must refer to the commandments of Allah (swt) revealed to the Prophet (pbuh) and follow his example as he was sent down as the role model to emulate.

One situation occurred after the Prophet (saw) had migrated to Madina. Anas narrated, “When the Prophet (pbuh) migrated from Makkah to Madina, the people of Madina used to have two festivals. On those two days, they had carnivals and festivity.

The Prophet (pbuh) said, 'Instead of those two days, Allah has appointed for you two other days, which are better, the days of ‘Eid ul-Fitr and ‘Eid ul-Adha.'”
[An-Nasaa’i]

Despite the fact that there were prevailing customs and traditions the Prophet (pbuh) did not in any way compromise by involving himself or the Sahabah (companions). Rather, he acted upon what was revealed.

One may ask about situations –
like wearing the poppy – which the Prophet (pbuh) did not engage in.
What is the ruling on an action that did not occur during the Prophet (pbuh)’s time?
Muslim reported on the authority of Ayesha (ra) that the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said:
“He who introduces in our order that which is alien to it, it must be rejected.”

In this evidence, Allah (swt) commands us to initiate all of our actions according to evidences from the Quran and Sunnah. We cannot use any other criteria – not our inclinations, nor our logical conclusions. We must not fall into the trap of thinking:

“what is the harm in this action?” or “if I do this then maybe it will make the non-Muslims around me more receptive to the message of Islam”.

These are pitfalls we must protect ourselves from. As Muslims, our basis for actions is not our mind nor the environment around us but rather the Hukm Sharai’. Every action relating to subject matters that were revealed must be measured against this yard stick. It is the pleasure of Allah (swt) that we must seek and we must seek it in the manner that He has prescribed for us, no matter what the society or trends around us dictate.

Who Should Be Remembered

Remembrance Day should remind us of the state that our brothers and sisters have been living in since the Khilafah was destroyed.

Once the Imam – the shield of the Ummah – had been destroyed, the colonial powers had a free hand in plundering and robbing our resources and subjecting us to political subjugation.

Remembrance Day should not only remind us of the last days of the Khilafah but also the beginning of the tyrannical rulers and dictators that have subjugated and oppressed the Ummah for the past 87 years.

We see this subjugation and oppression continue today not only with the invasion of Iraq and the occupation of Palestine but also in the slavishness of our rulers who are more interested in serving the western colonial powers than the Ummah.

This day should be a catalyst to increase our activities in resuming the Islamic way of life by re-establishing the Khilafah Rashidah in the Muslim lands according to the method of the Prophet (pbuh).

Looking back at the war and examining what it had achieved, we can see that there was nothing accomplished but bloodshed and a vying for political power.

The war had less to do with right and wrong and more to do with fulfilling the insatiable desire of man for power and wealth.

This drive did not end with “the war to end all wars” but is being continued in the wars that are being fought today.

So the next time we walk past a booth and are asked if we would want to wear a poppy we should use this as an opportunity to invite people to think and reflect as to what this poppy represents and what was achieved by the war and if it has made any difference in our lives today.

May Allah (swt) allow us to remember Him and act according to His commandments, abstain from His prohibitions and remember that we will be standing in front of Him alone.

“So whosoever does good equal to the weight of an atom shall see it. And whosoever does evil equal to the weight of an atom, shall see it.” [99:7-8]

Posted 11th November 2011 by The Politically Aware Muslim (11/11/11)

bet you didn't know that now eh? So yeah, screw the Poppy wearing brigade - and screw the USA for making the Afghans cultivate the poppy so they can turn it onto heroine.

Scimi
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11-07-2015, 09:50 PM #9
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You wanna wear the poppy to celebrate dead mercs? Big Grin and you're supposed to be against wars? world wars? Big Grin what madness is this?

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There's more heroine producing Poppy in Afghanistan than ever.

Poppy wearing compromised fools - bunch of swaggerless clones.

Scimi

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11-08-2015, 05:17 AM #10
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I knew about the heroin trade but, thankyou so much for your amazing contribution Scimi, some of which I didn't know!

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