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A question for Christians: Isaiah 17


10-24-2015, 04:07 PM #1
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Yo Christians, is Isaiah 17 a prophecy of what's going on in Syria now ?

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10-24-2015, 04:33 PM #2
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(10-24-2015, 04:07 PM)Bratwurst Wrote:  Yo Christians, is Isaiah 17 a prophecy of what's going on in Syria now ?

Ya never know. Do you remember a few years ago when it seemed like nations were going to go after Syria? There was this big build up in the press? I thought maybe things were gonna heat up then, but something weird happened-it went all quiet. Talk of Syria and invading Syria just went away.

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.  1John 4:1

Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. 1 Peter 5:8

10-24-2015, 05:44 PM #3
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Isaiah 17 is an oracle concerning Damascus that was partially fulfilled when the Assyrians conquered Aram in 732 BC and 10 years later conquered the breakaway Northern Kingdom of Israel.

Isaiah 17:14 The fulfillment of this prophecy (cf also Is 10:33, 34; 30:31; 31:8) is found in Is 37:36, following the repetition of the prophecy first recorded in 2 Kin 19:29-36. Just when an overwhelming victory by the Assyrian Sennacherib seemed inevitable, during a single night 185,000 of his army died, and Judah was spared—as the Lord through Isaiah had promised.
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It’s the portion of Isaiah 17 that were not yet fulfilled that concern us today.

This commentary calls it a slow motion fulfillment, but it certainly seems to be speeding up:

https://gracethrufaith.com/end-times-pro...isaiah-17/

This commentary from 5 years ago shows perspective:

https://gracethrufaith.com/end-times-pro...-damascus/
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10-24-2015, 07:16 PM #4
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Nice work MissMiami!

Just an afterthought though: If as they say, history repeats itself...

Like I said, just an aftethought Cool

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and right-doing,

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10-24-2015, 08:52 PM #5
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“Listen carefully, Damascus will cease to be a city
And will become a fallen ruin.

“The cities of Aroer [east of the Jordan] are deserted;
They will be [only a refuge] for flocks to lie down in,
And there will be no one to make them afraid.

“The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
And the kingdom from Damascus
And the remnant of Aram (Syria);
They will be like the [departed] glory of [her ally] the children of Israel,”
Declares the Lord of hosts.

10-24-2015, 08:59 PM #6
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Has Damascus ever been fully destroyed before ?

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10-24-2015, 09:06 PM #7
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So call it fulfilled, it's fine with me.

Damascus has proved to be a most resilient city. It was conquered by the Israelites (1000 BC), the Assyrians (732 BC), the Babylonians (606 BC), the Persians (530 BC), the Greeks (330 BC), the Nabateans (85 BC), the Romans (63 BC), the Byzantines (634 AD), the Mamelukes (1250 AD) and the Ottoman Turks (1516 AD). But the city itself has always survived.

10-24-2015, 09:12 PM #8
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Ok then. Assuming Isaiah 17 was a real prophecy, it's not fulfilled yet. Interesting stuff, actually.

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10-24-2015, 09:44 PM #9
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17:14 is fulfilled.
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10-25-2015, 11:00 PM #10
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(10-24-2015, 04:07 PM)Bratwurst Wrote:  Yo Christians, is Isaiah 17 a prophecy of what's going on in Syria now ?

We will summarize Isiah 17:1-5 as the Last Generation which is about 70 Years (Isiah 17:4/Exodus 1:5) from the Declaration of Isreal's Independance of 1948, which takes us to the present.  The Nations have desired to exterminated all the Jewish People (Ephraim), now the nations desire to exterminate all the Non-Caucasian people.  When the gospel talks about Syria (Genetic Dan) being lifted up with the Jews before the nations, it is only their desire to put them down, that is to kill them.  Considering the wave of terrorism exclusively tied to certain groups of people this is a description of natural progression, reaching to Star Wormwood (Isiah 17:1 Glorious Ruin of Damascus, witnessed by the Apostle Paul).

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ISAIAH 17:6 Yet gleaning grapes shall be left in it, as the shaking of an olive tree, two [or] three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four [or] five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith the LORD God of Israel.

9/11/2001, New York City Lost three buildings, the Two Twin Towers and Building 7 ... ... ... ... In 2015 we have just reached the end of the 4 Blood Red Moon Sequence ... ... ... ... and there is a 5th Blood Red Moon on 3/23/2016, that is the "30 Years of Luke 3:23 + 1260 Days of the Antichrist's Lifespan.  This will then bring the 153 Days of Revelation.  This will be done soon.

The Nations have not Realized the Antichrist has demanded their Lives and None will Survive
ISAIAH 17:13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but [God] shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
ISAIAH 17:14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; [and] before the morning he [is] not. This [is] the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.


The Antichrist was born on a Blood Red Moon, relatively speaking, and he will die on a Blood Red Moon.  The Antichrist is disappointed the Authorities involved in the coverup of 9/11/2001, did not reveal the fact that certain groups of people were dead long before the buildings fell ... ... ... ... just about all of the people dropped out of the burning buildings were already dead.  As I have stated sometimes there are leaks in this discussion.  With those things called to mind of what happened, the Antichrist cannot guarantee the nations facing the fact of their executions outside of the usa, will be completely ignorant for this final duration, but he has worked out a method of ensure they are challenged to believe and nothing more.  So far, Star Wormwood has not revealed itself in its most likely location, which is in the City of Philadelphia in the USA.

(The people facing the end of their lives have not understood anything beyond a desire to terminate the Antichrist,  so they have not listened.  What I will go on to say, the Gospel is a Living Account of certain variables, to these ends, those variables must be accurately expressed.  The "City of Philadelphia" is such a variable.  We have not yet achieved at least 4 Nuclear Weapons worth of damage to the usa, as a result of the level of force its citizens are using against the antichrist in our recent discussions, but we are closer now then we've been in the recent past, when that is completed, we will discuss what is to be done next, as a result of the level of force, we have a nightly walk on monday and tuesday)