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10-13-2015, 12:02 PM #1
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"Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 was shot down by a Russian-made ‘Buk’ anti-aircraft missile, a 15-month official investigation has concluded.

The official inquiry – which reconstructed the cockpit from fragments found in Ukraine, where it was found – hasn’t addressed who launched the missile

Rob Fredriksz was speaking after a presentation of the key findings of the 15-month investigation into the downing of MH17, when 298 people killed when the Boeing 777 was shot down over eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014.

Freriksz said, ‘It was a Buk missile, made in Russia. That was clearly indicated. That Ukraine should have closed the air space and that the passengers absolutely felt and knew nothing.’

Ukraine and Western countries contend the airliner was downed by a missile fired by Russia-backed rebels or Russian forces, from rebel-controlled territory, on July 17, 2014, killing all 298 people aboard.

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http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/13/flight-mh1...s-5437278/

Looks like we were correct once again.
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10-13-2015, 12:04 PM #2
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It's interesting how this has just come out (rather conveniently) at the time when Russia is actively involved with the Syria situation.

Metro - a free tabloid paid for by the advertisers (bankers)

Metro - keeps bankers happy by printing the news the bankers want to blind us with.

Whoever shot down the MH17 - we won't know... not for sure. We still have 29 years before the OSA releases that info.

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10-13-2015, 12:28 PM #3
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(10-13-2015, 12:04 PM)Scimitar Wrote:  It's interesting how this has just come out (rather conveniently) at the time when Russia is actively involved with the Syria situation.

Metro - a free tabloid paid for by the advertisers (bankers)

Metro - keeps bankers happy by printing the news the bankers want to blind us with.

Whoever shot down the MH17 - we won't know... not for sure. We still have 29 years before the OSA releases that info.

Scimi

It's difficult to discern the non-truths with the truths.

I believe it was a 'Russian-made missile' however I believe western backed Ukrainian Rebels fired it.

If they were Russian-Backed, then Putin needs to own up to it, but I don't think they were.

The West want to put all the blame on Russia because they made the weapons.

Are we going to blame America and the UK for sponsoring Israel etc?
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10-13-2015, 12:39 PM #4
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Ukraines military capacity was funded by Russia. Ukraine had BUK missiles because they were given them by Russia, every bullet, every rifle, plane, bomb etc Ukraine owns is Russian. The current anti Putin puppet government in Ukraine is using Russian weaponry against pro-Russian rebels. I have no doubt that the missile that hit MH17 was Poroshenko backed not Putin.
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10-14-2015, 05:58 PM #5
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Don't think the timing of the release is an accident with - as Scimi said - Russia intervening in Syria.

It's another perfect case for occidental media to showcase their amateur skills when it comes down to analyzing an info piece. "It's proven: the BUK-missile was Russian-made!"

I thought that if it wasn't Russian-made it couldn't be a BUK-missile to begin with. It's as revealing as saying the Boeing turns out to be made by the US.

The Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutten has now publicly demanded the cooperation of Russian authorities, whose voluntary cooperation they have refused for more than a year now.

Anyway, I don't need to wait for any official research group to tell me who did it. It was clear from day one.

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10-15-2015, 07:11 AM #6
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(10-14-2015, 05:58 PM)Artful Revealer Wrote:  Don't think the timing of the release is an accident with - as Scimi said - Russia intervening in Syria.

It's another perfect case for occidental media to showcase their amateur skills when it comes down to analyzing an info piece. "It's proven: the BUK-missile was Russian-made!"

I thought that if it wasn't Russian-made it couldn't be a BUK-missile to begin with. It's as revealing as saying the Boeing turns out to be made by the US.

The Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutten has now publicly demanded the cooperation of Russian authorities, whose voluntary cooperation they have refused for more than a year now.

Anyway, I don't need to wait for any official research group to tell me who did it. It was clear from day one.

Yeah you're both right, my gullible side strikes again.
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09-03-2016, 05:28 AM #7
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MH-17 Investigator's Home Raided:

Attorney General Investigates For War Crime



Berlin (ots) - house search to secure evidence for downing


Berlin, March 29, 2016 - During the investigations on the shooting down passenger aircraft MH-17 over eastern Ukraine two years ago the attorney general has now ordered to search the residential and business premises of Lübeck private investigator Josef Resch. With the downing of the aircraft on July 17, 2014 298 people were killed. As the business magazine 'Capital' www.capital.de reported on its web site, eleven officials marched out on 15 March for a raid. The search warrant, received by the 'Capital', results in investigation against a person "unknown" on suspicion of war crimes. Resch had offered a reward on behalf of anonymous multi-million dollar clients for evidence in the case of the MH-17.

The aim of the raid, so it is in the search warrant, was the "freezing of written documents and notes related to the crash" and "entries to possible contact persons who can provide further information about the shooting, preferably those from Ukraine, or from the Russian Federation". It is assumed that "records, documents, addresses or files can be found which contain more evidence on the crime and about possible involved persons in the downing (...), which are for the truth of considerable importance".

Resch, who was not present at the house search had, against 'Capital' said in June last year, his client would get the information they wanted to receive. The reward was paid, his contract was terminated. For content to Resch declined to comment, but said ominously: "Would come to the public the truth, the conflict in eastern Ukraine would escalate very quickly."

About the current action of the federal prosecutor wonders Resch had the BND but explained a few months after the tragedy, separatists have to be responsible for the shooting. "If the attorney general believes to find evidence for the shooting at me, then he dares appear to the findings of the BND not. Or he fears informant comes from the environment of the BND."

Press contact:
Jens Brambusch, editors 'Capital',
Tel. 030/220 74 5127, mobile 0176/647 02 338
Email: brambusch.jens@capital.de
www.capital.de

Translation: translate.google.com
Source: www.tagesspiegel.de/advertorials/ots/cap...rechen/13377314.html

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09-03-2016, 05:32 AM #8
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By BILLY SIX - Reports from the European Front Line in German and English:

MH17 – Beweise gegen die Lügenpresse 

MH17 – evidence against the lying press 





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Quote:Gewusst haben wir es schon immer – mit der Wahrheit nehmen es viele Journalisten nicht mehr so genau. Wird einer von ihnen jedoch konkret beim Lügen erwischt, so schlägt er wild um sich. Das erklärt die emotionale Reaktion des Berliner Recherche-Büros CORRECTIV und seiner Freunde aus der BRD-Systempresse auf den ungebetenen Besuch des britischen Journalisten Gram Phillips. Viel bedeutender als die Frage einer Dreh-Genehmigung ist etwas ganz anderes: CORRECTIV hat mit seiner „Reportage“ zum Abschuss der malaysischen Boeing MH-17 im Sommer 2014 die Öffentlichkeit in die Irre geführt, Menschen beleidigt, die Gefühle der Angehörigen missachtet und beinahe auch die Kriminalermittlung behindert. Motto: „CORRECTIV – Lügen für die Gesellschaft.“

( Actually we knew already – many journalists take liberties with the truth. If you catch one of them in a specific lying case, he will start to lash out. It´s the real reason for the emotional reaction of Berlin-based research office CORRECTIV and their friends in the German system press after British journalist Gram Phillips has visited them without being asked. Permission to film is one issue. Much more important: CORRECTIV misleaded the public with their „coverage“ on Malaysian Boeing MH17 downing in summer 2014, they insulted people, disrespected the feelings of the relatives und nearly spoiled the international criminal invesigation. Slogan: „CORRECTIV – lies for the society.“ )

RAW: First moments after MH17 crash in Ukraine





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New footage of unexpected horror when Malaysian Boeing 777 came down; emotions of locals (Hrabove, 17th of July 2014)

It´s two years ago now that 298 people have lost their life by perfidious attack above the clouds of Eastern Ukraine – crash of Malaysian Boeing exacerbated the conflict in Eastern Europe dramatically for a very short moment. Vast majority of Western audience believes clarification of the case to be completed due to noncritical media coverage. At the same time official researches of „Joint Investigation Team“ - JIT - didn´t bring any perpetrator to light till now. Some reviewers assume even if JIT announced alleged „launch site of surface-to-air missile“ and „involved, meanwhile dead“ persons in autumn, there would never be a trial. Regarding MH-17 it isn´t about justice, but global politics.

Some sequences resemble an AP footage of November 2014.

MH-17, das Grauen – und die Menschen hinter der Kamera

MH-17, the horror – revealing people behind the camera





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( MH-17, the horror – revealing people behind the camera )

Harmonisches Dorfleben im Donezbecken; Sommer-Aufenthalt bei Großmuttern. Doch der Krieg kommt ohne Ankündigung. Vor zwei Jahren, am 17. Juli 2014, stürzt der Rumpf einer malaysischen Boeing-777 des Flugs MH-17 auf das Sonnenblumen-Feld neben der Siedlung Grabowo. Die leblosen Körper von 298 Menschen regnen vom Himmel. In einem kurzen Moment der Geschichte, da nur die Täter des Abschusses wissen, was geschehen ist, sind der Lkw-Fahrer Slava (damals 37) und seine Tochter Christina (damals 14) die ersten Außenstehenden, die den Acker des Grauens in Augenschein nehmen. Ihr berührendes Ad-hoc-Video wird später um die Welt gehen. Heute lüften sie das Geheimnis ihrer Identität.

( Harmonious village life in Donbass; summer stay with grandma. But war arrives without advance notice. Two years ago, on 17th of July 2014 a Boeing 777 fuselage of Malaysian Airlines flight MH-17 crashes on a sunflowers field next to Hrabove. Lifeless bodies of 298 people on board are raining from the sky. For a very short moment of history ... while just downing perpetrators can know what has happened ... truck driver Slava, aged 37 that time, and his daughter Christina, 14, are the first outsiders to see the field of horror. Their spontaneous and touching video will spread across the globe. Today they reveal the secret of their identity. )

Deutsch + English

Übersetzer (translator): NATASHA VLADIMIROVA & K. K.
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09-03-2016, 05:35 AM #9
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.... and the plane may have been shot down by an Israeli missile 

Quote:A report on Malaysian Airlines MH17 air disaster in Ukraine last year by a group of old-hand aviation security experts maintains that the Boeing might have been downed by an Israeli Python air-to-air missile. 

The report was leaked via the private LiveJournal account of Albert Naryshkin (aka albert_lex) late on Tuesday and has already been widely discussed by social media communities in Russia.

The authors of the investigative report have calculated the possible detonation initiation point of the missile that hit the passenger aircraft and approximate number and weight of strike elements, which in turn designated the type and presumed manufacturer of the weapon.

http://www.rt.com/news/310039-mh17-israe...e-version/

From last year...
http://www.whathappenedtoflightmh17.com/...ir-missle/

Quote:4) As stated, the damage could have just as well been done by an air-to-air missile which for various reasons would make much better sense. The wreckage shows only signs of battering at the cockpit, while a Buk SAM would have logically struck it at the center of the fuselage and filled the entire plane with punch holes. For example, the Israeli manufactured Python-5 air-to-air missile has a sophisticated guidance system which can have it strike any pre-determined part of a target.

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https://twitter.com/hashtag/MH17?src=hash&lang=en
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