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06-04-2015, 07:49 AM #1
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https://archive.is/EDjiL

>A huge leak [1] just revealed that the TPP would establish a secretive,
shadowy international court [2] that could be used by Big Media giants
to kick Internet users around the world offline. [3]


[1] https://wikileaks.org/tpp-investment/
[2] http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/business/trans-pacific-partnership-seen-as-door-for-foreign-suits-against-us.html?ref=business&_r=2&t=dXNlcmlkPTUzMjQ5NTYxLGVtYWlsaWQ9OTYyNg==
[3] https://wikileaks.org/tpp-ip2/

https://stopthesecrecy.net/?src=157580

>>1623789
>Leaked TPP Investment Chapter Reveals Serious Threat to User Safeguards

>A newly leaked chapter of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement
from Wikileaks has confirmed some of our worst fears about the
agreement. The latest provisions would enable multinational corporations
to undermine public interest rules through an international tribunal
process called investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS). Under this
process, foreign companies can challenge any new law or government
action at the federal, state, or local level, in a country that is a
signatory to the agreement. Companies can file such lawsuits based upon
their claim that the law or action harms their present or future
profits. If they win, there are no monetary limits to the potential
award.


>This type of tribunal process is not entirely new—similar provisions in
other international agreements have been used to undermine laws
regarding the environment, health, and other regulatory areas. However,
this new leaked text has revealed how these investor-state provisions
could also be used to undermine user protections built into digital
regulations, including copyright rules.


https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/04/leaked-tpp-investment-chapter-reveals-serious-threat-user-safeguards



http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comme..._actively/

Today I stumbled across a post concerning the Sony email leaks that
seemed too important to ignore, it contained the two following images.

http://imgur.com/a/tjzgT

These two images are absolute concrete proof that Sony/MPAA are
lobbying governments to push the TPP/TTIP's extensive copyright laws.
One part reads,

"Finally, in regards to trade, the MPAA/MPA with the strong support
of your studios, continue to advocate to governments around the world
about the pressing need for strong pro-IP trade policies such as TPP and
the proposed EU/US trade agreement (TTIP)"

This here is concrete proof that corporations globally are pushing
laws for their own profit at the expense of the people, this will be
basically SOPA/CISPA on steroids.

But wait there's more, they even said that they have formed an,

"MPAA/Studio working group to study and develop the next generation
of criminal enforcement strategies to present to federal prosecutors".

This is worse than we thought /r/technology,
not only have the MPAA influenced and crafted some of the strictest
copyright laws in the history of the internet for its own gain, they
have been put in charge of implementing the punishments for breaking
these laws.

This whole deal is completely beyond repair and needs to be shot
down, but with the majority of the world economy on board, it seems like
it will be a difficult task.

Bare in mind that the TPP not only includes copyright, but it will allow corporations to sue governments
for 'cutting into their future profits' and to get the countries to
repeal laws like environmental and food safety standards to maximise
profits. As seen on wikileaks about the TPP:

...WikiLeaks has released the "Investment Chapter," which highlights
the intent of U.S.-led negotiators to create a tribunal where
corporations can sue governments if their laws interfere with a
company’s claimed future profits.

And as I'm sure it's a sensitive topic of discussion right now, the
UK will likely lose the NHS as well since this also allows US
pharmaceutical companies to sue governments.

For those who don't know about the TPP/TTIP, they are trade
agreements between major world powers that are currently being
negotiated in complete secrecy with corporations playing a big role. We
only know most of what we do because of wikileaks:

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pac...artnership
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatla...artnership
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnC1mqyAXmw

It's also being fastracked through congress so we don't have much time to stop it.

Do WHATEVER you can to help raise awareness about this, this is a
life or death situation for the internet and most of modern society.
Call your representatives. Send it to your family and friends. Post it
on social media. Show your dog.

https://stop-ttip.org/

We need to do absolutely everything we can to stop this monster of a
treaty from taking the internet out of the hands of the people
completely. Also, try to help organise efforts against it, we need all
the help we can get.

Here is a link to the 114 page, bipartisan, bicameral draft of legislation
by former Vice-Presidential nominee Paul Ryan, which would establish
fast track status for this type of agreement. It was introduced two days
ago. You may not have heard of it because Star Wars released a trailer
for a movie in 2016. Or that Australia stopped an alleged ISIS plot. Or
ISIL beheaded more people (did you watch the video yet? It's only 29
minutes... And you can skip to ~24:30 for the good stuff), or something
something Hilary Clinton.

Here is a link to Pivot 2.0, a paper put out in January for the Center For
Strategic & International Studies, a Washington, DC based Think Tank
with extremely notable members on their board and as trustees,
including the CEOs for major defense contractors and other multinational
corporations, as well as former high ranking members of the US
Government, including Dick Army (my favorite name, by far, I mean come
on!), Richard Armitage, and Henry Kissinger.


06-08-2015, 12:52 PM #2
leconnaisseur
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(06-04-2015, 07:49 AM)Undertaker Wrote:  https://archive.is/EDjiL

>A huge leak [1] just revealed that the TPP would establish a secretive,
shadowy international court [2] that could be used by Big Media giants
to kick Internet users around the world offline. [3]


[1] https://wikileaks.org/tpp-investment/
[2] http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/business/trans-pacific-partnership-seen-as-door-for-foreign-suits-against-us.html?ref=business&_r=2&t=dXNlcmlkPTUzMjQ5NTYxLGVtYWlsaWQ9OTYyNg==
[3] https://wikileaks.org/tpp-ip2/

https://stopthesecrecy.net/?src=157580

>>1623789
>Leaked TPP Investment Chapter Reveals Serious Threat to User Safeguards

>A newly leaked chapter of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement
from Wikileaks has confirmed some of our worst fears about the
agreement. The latest provisions would enable multinational corporations
to undermine public interest rules through an international tribunal
process called investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS). Under this
process, foreign companies can challenge any new law or government
action at the federal, state, or local level, in a country that is a
signatory to the agreement. Companies can file such lawsuits based upon
their claim that the law or action harms their present or future
profits. If they win, there are no monetary limits to the potential
award.


>This type of tribunal process is not entirely new—similar provisions in
other international agreements have been used to undermine laws
regarding the environment, health, and other regulatory areas. However,
this new leaked text has revealed how these investor-state provisions
could also be used to undermine user protections built into digital
regulations, including copyright rules.


https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/04/leaked-tpp-investment-chapter-reveals-serious-threat-user-safeguards



http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comme..._actively/

Today I stumbled across a post concerning the Sony email leaks that
seemed too important to ignore, it contained the two following images.

http://imgur.com/a/tjzgT

These two images are absolute concrete proof that Sony/MPAA are
lobbying governments to push the TPP/TTIP's extensive copyright laws.
One part reads,

"Finally, in regards to trade, the MPAA/MPA with the strong support
of your studios, continue to advocate to governments around the world
about the pressing need for strong pro-IP trade policies such as TPP and
the proposed EU/US trade agreement (TTIP)"

This here is concrete proof that corporations globally are pushing
laws for their own profit at the expense of the people, this will be
basically SOPA/CISPA on steroids.

But wait there's more, they even said that they have formed an,

"MPAA/Studio working group to study and develop the next generation
of criminal enforcement strategies to present to federal prosecutors".

This is worse than we thought /r/technology,
not only have the MPAA influenced and crafted some of the strictest
copyright laws in the history of the internet for its own gain, they
have been put in charge of implementing the punishments for breaking
these laws.

This whole deal is completely beyond repair and needs to be shot
down, but with the majority of the world economy on board, it seems like
it will be a difficult task.

Bare in mind that the TPP not only includes copyright, but it will allow corporations to sue governments
for 'cutting into their future profits' and to get the countries to
repeal laws like environmental and food safety standards to maximise
profits. As seen on wikileaks about the TPP:

...WikiLeaks has released the "Investment Chapter," which highlights
the intent of U.S.-led negotiators to create a tribunal where
corporations can sue governments if their laws interfere with a
company’s claimed future profits.

And as I'm sure it's a sensitive topic of discussion right now, the
UK will likely lose the NHS as well since this also allows US
pharmaceutical companies to sue governments.

For those who don't know about the TPP/TTIP, they are trade
agreements between major world powers that are currently being
negotiated in complete secrecy with corporations playing a big role. We
only know most of what we do because of wikileaks:

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pac...artnership
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatla...artnership
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnC1mqyAXmw

It's also being fastracked through congress so we don't have much time to stop it.

Do WHATEVER you can to help raise awareness about this, this is a
life or death situation for the internet and most of modern society.
Call your representatives. Send it to your family and friends. Post it
on social media. Show your dog.

https://stop-ttip.org/

We need to do absolutely everything we can to stop this monster of a
treaty from taking the internet out of the hands of the people
completely. Also, try to help organise efforts against it, we need all
the help we can get.

Here is a link to the 114 page, bipartisan, bicameral draft of legislation
by former Vice-Presidential nominee Paul Ryan, which would establish
fast track status for this type of agreement. It was introduced two days
ago. You may not have heard of it because Star Wars released a trailer
for a movie in 2016. Or that Australia stopped an alleged ISIS plot. Or
ISIL beheaded more people (did you watch the video yet? It's only 29
minutes... And you can skip to ~24:30 for the good stuff), or something
something Hilary Clinton.

Here is a link to Pivot 2.0, a paper put out in January for the Center For
Strategic & International Studies, a Washington, DC based Think Tank
with extremely notable members on their board and as trustees,
including the CEOs for major defense contractors and other multinational
corporations, as well as former high ranking members of the US
Government, including Dick Army (my favorite name, by far, I mean come
on!), Richard Armitage, and Henry Kissinger.


Man that's boring money talk, we need to talk about transgenre and Daesh over here.

Please mods close this useless thread

The TTIP is the end game of the NWO.

It's the next step after the western world goes 'bankrupt'.

Once the point of Bankrupty is reached, we will be in a new corporate-communist world. 

This will happen because with this treaty, Nations will have to compensate corporations for taking the interest of the citizen into account.

Since most nations are bankrupted, they won't be able to pay the 'fees' imposed upon them by this 'tribunal'.

The best way it was explained to me was with fracking. 

Example: Let's say I've found some land that are good for fracking, and that land is worth 1 Billion and I bought it. I plan to start exploitation next month and I think I can make 1 Billion after I get all this gas out of the ground. Then some pesky government official want to outlaw fracking for his district (like they did in Oklahoma and Texas) because he wants to have water for his kids in ten years. 

I then turn around and go to the TTIP. The TTIP will be charged to rule (with non elected officials) on what the compensation the governement should give me since they prohibited me from making all the profits I should be making. Then the governement is going to be fined, let's say a Billion, for keeping me from 'profiting' OR they can reverse the law.

Since governements are already broke, they will reverse the law. All the external damage (ie environmental) will also be on the dime of the goverment

The socialisation of debt and the privatisation of profits will take another meaning. 

Corporate-Communism

Once this is in place, we will be effectively ruled by a supra-national non elected board of corporations, kinda like a EU on crack.

National decisions won't be took in consideration of population but in light of corporate interests.

The interest of the 'economy' god will trump all other concepts.

This is Obama's legacy, just like the NAFTA and the WTO deal that gave everything to China was Clinton's. That's why Hillary is pushed so hard cause she will ride that thing to hell because she helped build it.
This post was last modified: 06-08-2015, 01:35 PM by leconnaisseur.

06-08-2015, 01:14 PM #3
Vytas
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Some things is going to happen, and they don't want. those in the know to spread information about it, i knew about this for a month or so...download from web info which really matters, so you can share later when we are cut of

Truth is precious it's guarded by God

06-12-2015, 11:56 AM #4
Undertaker
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