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10-05-2015, 04:12 AM #1
Robert Baird
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When Viktor E. Frankl faced death in a concentration camp he learned a great deal about meaning and life. Most people live in fear and this debilitating fear of death is not healthy. He developed a whole school of psychology called Logotherapy from facing the choice of dying. But there is much more to learn from the Many Worlds Interpretation of Physics and from ancient shamanic 'travels' to the places the soul goes at death and potentially before death. His experiences there must have included altered states that can be brought about through fasting and trauma. His work in that area is not particularly enlightening even though his Logos or Meaning is akin to the LOGOS which is the 'beginning' (as in 'the Word') and harmonically attuned to the akashic record which might be in our genes or the Cosmic Soup or both. Here is a little paragraph from the Preface to Frankl's The Will to Meaning which carried his early book Man's Search for Meaning a little further.

"What I term the existential vacuum constitutes a challenge to psychiatry today. Ever more patients complain of a feeling of emptiness and meaninglessness, which seems to me to derive from two facts. Unlike an animal, man is not told by instincts what he must do. And unlike man in former times, he is no longer told by traditions what he should do. Often he does not even know what he basically wishes to do. Instead, either he wishes to do what other people do (conformism), or he does what other people wish him to do (totalitarianism)." (4)

Why have those who arranged these horrors tried to blame the Jews (and in an indirect manner, all 'sinners') for the death of Jesus? He did not claim to be a co-equal member of the Holy Trinity. It wasn't the Jews who 'killed our Saviour'. John Ralston Saul says this about the whole matter


A pre-alchemist alchemist concept developed by early Christian administrators to soften the hard-edged simplicity of straight monotheism.

The three-in-one/one-in-three mystery of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost {That the beatniks called 'Laddio, Daddio and Spook'.} made tritheism official. The subsequent almost-deification of the Virgin Mary made it quatrotheism {And raised un-natural 'virginity' or possible non-sense such as immaculate conceptions, which fathers must have loved and priests certainly benefit from, to heights of increasing obscenity!}. Twelve Disciples as semi-deities then made it sextusdecitheism. Finally, cart-loads of saints raised to quarter-deification turned Christianity into plain, old-fashioned polytheism. By the time of the Crusades, it was the most polytheistic religion ever to have existed, with the possible exception of Hinduism. This untenable contradiction between the assertion of monotheism and the reality of polytheism was dealt with {And this is the MOST important observation of a technique known in psychology as 'projection of a pluperfect paranoid' or the 'BIG LIE' of alphabet soup agencies and 'black ops'; the less organized criminals like the Mafia call it a 'frame-up'.} by accusing other religions of the Christian fault. The Church - Catholic and later Protestant - turned aggressively on the two most clearly monotheistic religions in view {Also they began at least 700 years of war, A CRUSADE! against the remnants of the Kelts in Ireland.) - Judaism and Islam - and persecuted them as heathen or pagan. ..These pagans must therefore be converted, conquered {ego 'Manifest Destiny'} and/or killed for their own good in order that they may benefit from the singularity of the Holy Trinity, plus appendages.
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10-05-2015, 04:23 AM #2
Robert Baird
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 So far Nietzsche has been wrong about GOD. We have not managed to become Him in His place. Instead we have replaced God with a yet more abstract divinity based upon pure rational power... Organization or structure replaced the Father, TECHNOLOGY displaced the Son and the Holy Ghost gave way to information. The new priesthood was made up of technocrats. As the etymology of the word 'technocrat' indicates, from the beginning they were to be specialists in power... And they would stand guard over information." (5)

 The fears and apathy of average people are as much to blame for this history of managed and 'guarded information' that records the acts of bad people. 'We are all our brother's keepers' is not just an idle platitude. The Druidic concept called IESA or 'The Brotherhood of Man' apprehended the Cosmic Thought Field of Faraday and Tesla or the 'Cosmic Soup' of Deepak Chopra. NASA scientists have just announced that Life is Everywhere including microbes in outer space. They talk about cell membrane formation that makes we wonder if these are conscious connected 'info packets' (Tesla) or 'templates' (Teilhard de Chardin) from which energy can create in a manner more akin to ancient creationist theories of the supposed pagans.

This link shows how prevalent Iesa is but why would this ancient brotherhood which the Great Pyramid was built to honour be so hidden or occulted?

Tafsir Ibn Kathir Juz' 21 (Part 21): Al-Ankaboot 46 to ...


Muhammad Saed Abdul-Rahman - 2009
... could inherit from one another by virtue of the oath of brotherhood among them. ... Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses), and 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary).

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10-05-2015, 04:25 AM #3
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Mr. Baird,

This info is all nice and dandy.

However, for once, I would love for you to make one post which sheds light into how Christianity was infiltrated/hijacked and how the original Christian faith is devoid of such blasphemies (polytheism, symbolism, paganism).

Maybe you can make a thread about the original teachings of Jesus PBUH... We shouldn't be much concerned with his "followers", but rather his true message.

Do you judge a car by its driver?
This post was last modified: 10-05-2015, 04:30 AM by Tarikko.

“The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only.”

― Thomas Carlyle, On Heroes, Hero Worship and the Heroic in History

10-05-2015, 04:37 AM #4
Robert Baird
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Dear T

What you would like is to read what you already BELIEVE. You want scholars to agree with dogma.

But if you would go back to the origin of Christianity and what the family of Jesus (Merovingians) study when they built the Great Pyramid as your Islamic people are almost saying as they write about Iesa - you would get what you say you want, but which you really and truly would be shocked to discover.

Do a little research into that book linked from your own faithful - learn about Iesa and Brotherhood as averse to what John Ralston Saul (In Voltaire's Bastards) says about war mongering despots.

Do you know who Frankl, Saul and these people I quote, are? They are top people in important positions and if you go into the link at the bottom you will find the chairs of important religious foundations who author books on how Jesus is portrayed in each century - yes, not at all what you want to learn or get affirmation about.

There are many good books available in the market today - to learn about Jesus - both the title and the person a lot of myths were built around. I found John Dominic Crossan of De Paul University to be a fair read and decent analysis. There are a lot of Rabbinical scholars who have written books, Silver, Maccoby and Eisenmann come to mind. Better still are books like The Book of J and Gospel of Thomas by Harold Bloom. Bloom's work includes esoteric understandings that people in the family of Solomon and Melchizedek have studied for many millennia.

"Most antiquities scholars think that the New Testament gospels are “mythologized history.” In other words, they think that around the start of the first century a controversial Jewish rabbi named Yeshua ben Yosef gathered a following and his life and teachings provided the seed that grew into Christianity.

At the same time, these scholars acknowledge that many Bible stories like the virgin birth, miracles, resurrection, and women at the tomb borrow and rework mythic themes that were common in the Ancient Near East, much the way that screenwriters base new movies on old familiar tropes or plot elements. In this view, a “historical Jesus” became mythologized."


If Christians actually followed what Yeshua, Thomas and James taught they would be following the Merovingian secret knowledge. Made secret mostly due to the effort it takes to actually learn. That is not to say that Sol (sun) o - Mon (Moon) and his forbears did not occasionally take advantage of their knowledge of Astrology, alchemy, the Pentagon Dodecahedron, origins of alphabets and many more things. The sun and moon are extremely important parts of Heliopolitan knowledge systems going so far back in time that I can honestly say Atlantis came hundreds of thousands of years after it was learned.

The three main pyramids were not built by the people we are told built them as Mr. Temple says. Those pharaohs (If they were such a thing) usurped the pyramids to aggrandize themselves as almost every pharaohs (grave robber) did after them. The Great Pyramid of Iesa had not a miniscule molecule of human remains according to the American Research Center in Egypt who sent as much interior dust and such as they could find to Zurich to be tested in a Mass accelerator.
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