(09-15-2015, 05:22 AM)The Creeper Wrote: Just a couple of questions here based on what I have read in this thread.
I know the Christians believe Jesus was resurrected after 3 days (I think the Mulslim believe this as well, if the muslims on this forum can point me towards a surah that is all about Jesus it would be much appreciated, Im reading the Qur'an cover to cover and I have just got past "the bee")
I thought Christians also believed in The Last Day when everyone would be resurrected and then judged. The difference being, Muslims know we will be judged by God/Allah/The Father/The Creator but the Christians think we will be judged by Jesus, God's "son" (meaning they worship two Gods, then we get into all that holy ghost stuff..., There is only ONE God guys), the messiah will probably have a huge part to play on that day seeing how he is meant to destroy the Dajjal/antichrist. Its just semantics in my eyes, The Lord will let us know in where we differ on that day. Surely He will forgive the Christians who did good deeds and were not arrogant, they were simply confused by the deception, which is understandable, He is The Knower, The Wise, The Merciful, He is able to do anything.
Posted by Emerald
Too much weed, baby, way too much
Is there such a thing?
Considering your short angry responses to people maybe you don't smoke enough
Assalam Akhi Kurt,
To answer your question about Jesus, Isa son of Maryam (PBUH):
Muslims believe Jesus was not crucified, but was raised bodily to heaven by God.The only person in the history of mankind to be raised soul AND BODY to heaven, where he is awaiting to return before the end of time; a belief also found in the Gospel of Basilides, the text of which is lost save for reports of it by other early scholars like Origen (c.185 – c.254)
He will return to FULFILL his mission and lead the Believers against the Dajjal's camp, live and die a natural death eventually.
There is a burial place saved for him, next to where Muhammad PBUH and his companions RA are buried.
That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
— Qur'an, sura 4 (An-Nisa) ayat 157-158
This post was made by bro Scimi:
"And even Pontius Pilate's (the Roman governor in charge of Jerusalem) recognized that there were not 1 but 2 Jesus' alive at the time of the Passover Feast... he presented both of them (fresh outta prison) - ready for vote for who will be "crucified".
1) Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Mary (peace be upon him)
2) Yehshua Barabbas, the notorious criminal.
Interestingly enough, the name "Barabbas" is actually a Hellenization of "Bar Abba" - which means, "son of the father"...
....my question is, which Jesus got crucified?
There is an unbelievable truth about Christianity - which many non Christians and Christians alike - fail to recognize."
Keep in mind, Akhi:
"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic." -- Dresden James
Infiltration of the true Christian faith:
Christianity is based on the Mystery Religions of the ancient world. The doctrines of the ‘trinity’ and ‘incarnation’ were borrowed from the pagans. In fact, the whole religion was fabricated after the departure of Jesus PBUH.
The legendary stories of ‘man-god’ saviors dying for the sins of their people (and rising three days later) were very common! Christian infiltrators plagiarized the stories and foisted them upon Jesus (pbuh).
The scholar Tom Harper writes:
“The divine teacher is called, is tested by the “adversary”, gathers disciples, heals the sick, preaches the Good News about God’s kingdom, finally runs afoul of his bitter enemies, suffers, dies, and is resurrected after three days. This is the total pattern of the sun god in all the ancient dramas”. (The Pagan Christ, p. 145)
A very important part of the pagan faiths was the belief in a god who was young and handsome and was supposed to have died or mutilated himself for the sake of mankind.(A.D. Ajijola , The Myth of the Cross)
The dogma of the Incarnation was taken into Christianity, like many other Christian doctrines, from paganism. In pre-Christian mythologies we often read of the hero being regarded as a God. The Hindus of India even today worship their ancient heroes, Rama and Krishna, as incarnations of Vishnu, the second person of the Hindu Trinity.
The scholar Arthur Weigall describes that Osiris was crucified upon a tree, like many previous ‘man-gods’, the cross was not unique, its pagan symbol. The Jehovah Witnesses believe that Jesus was crucified upon a ‘stake’. But the ‘tree story’ was indeed plagiarized from the story of Osiris and Isis.
"The Popular and widespread religion of Osiris and Isis exercised considerable influence upon early Christianity, for these two great Egyptian deities, whose worship had passed into Europe were revered in Rome and in several other centers, where Christian communities were growing up. Osiris and Isis, so runs the legend, were brother and sister and also husband and wife; but Osiris was murdered, his coffined body being thrown into the Nile, and shortly afterwards the widowed and exiled Isis gave birth to a son, Horus.
The coffin, meanwhile, was washed up on the Syrian coast, and became miraculously lodged in the trunk of a tree, so that Osiris, like other sacrificed gods, could be described as having been.' slain and hanged on a tree.'
(The Paganism in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, 1928, p118)
Jesus in the Quran:
In the Qur'an, there are many stories about the life and teachings of Jesus Christ (called 'Issa in Arabic). The Qur'an recalls his miraculous birth, his teachings, the miracles he performed by God's permission, and his life as a respected prophet of God. Below are some direct quotations from the Qur'an regarding his life and teachings of Jesus.
"Behold! The angels said, 'Oh Mary! God gives you glad tidings of a Word from Him. His name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and the Hereafter, and in (the company of) those nearest to God. He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. He shall be (in the company) of the righteous... And God will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel'" (3:45-48).
The Qur'an speaks of Mary (called Miriam in Arabic) not only as the mother of Jesus, but as a righteous woman in her own right. There is even a chapter of the Qur'an named for her (the 19th chapter of the Qur'an).
"Behold! The angels said, 'Oh Mary! God has chosen you and purified you, chosen you above the women of all nations. Oh Mary! Worship your Lord devoutly. Prostrate yourself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who bow down'" (3:42-43).
"And (remember) she who guarded her chastity. We breathed into her of our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples (21:91).
Abu Huraira said, "I heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'There is none born among the off-spring of Adam, but Satan touches him. A child therefore, cries loudly at the time of birth because of the touch of Satan, except Mary and her child." Then Abu Huraira recited: "And I seek refuge with You for her and for her offspring from the outcast Satan."
— (Sura 3.36), Sahih Al-Bukhari, V. 4, Bk 55, Num 641., Sahih Al-Bukhari, V. 4, Bk 54, Num 506
Regarding Isa's preferred heritage descending from Abraham through Isaac to Maryam above all mankind, the Quran says:
Lo! Allah preferred Adam and Noah and the Family of Abraham and the Family of 'Imran above (all His) creatures. They were descendants one of another. Allah is Hearer, Knower. (Remember) when the wife of 'Imran said: My Lord! I have vowed unto Thee that which is in my belly as a consecrated (offering). Accept it from me. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Hearer, the Knower! And when she was delivered she said: My Lord! Lo! I am delivered of a female - Allah knew best of what she was delivered - the male is not as the female; and lo! I have named her Mary, and lo! I crave Thy protection for her and for her offspring from Satan the outcast.
And there are many more.
Ask away Brother