Could it be possible they play down such a thing because they don't want this knowledge getting out? I have very little knowledge on this subject myself, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

If you are referring to the Hindu Age of Perfect Pagan Peace and Prosperity millions of years ago, in my opinion, no, because there is just simply not evidence of any human existence or civilization that far back, in my opinion, the evolutionists are already stretching the numbers just about as far as they can.

If you are referring to the disputed Aryan invasion theory, that is only disputed because Hindu Indians don't like to face their racist past, I present you this old thread from the days when chainmaker and Flix were having a whirlwind romance:

http://vigilantcitizen.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1587

The historical accuracy of the Vedas has been proven by astrology. Also they have found evidence of atomic warfare 10,000 years ago, right in the same area that the Mahabaratara allegedy happened. So if science is proving the Vedas right, then what reason is there to disbeleive the only texts that document the history of humanity?



First of all you are Chainmaker deary. Second the Aryan "Invasion" Myth has very little ground to stand on these days. There is plenty of evidence strongly supporting that the "aryans" were indigenous to the area.

Also, calling the ancient Aryans "Hindus" makes no damn sense
1. The ancient aryans lived in the Saraswasti River Valley, not the Indus
2. a More proper phrase would be "Vedantist" or "Sanatana Dharma"

I think there is much historical information to be found in the Vedas, just not pure spiritual truth. Sure there are some good morals in there, some interesting commentary on human existence.

Exactly the same as how I view the Illiad of Homer.

It describes a real event, the Trojan War, but was considered pure mythology until the city of Troy was actually discovered.

The Mahabharata is not really very old,



comparative to the Rigveda,



or the Illiad,



or the Torah, which of course the religious scholars argue was written earlier and the athiest/agnostics scholars like to argue was written later:



It is interesting that none of these ancient books mention anything but swords and spears and arrows and chariots as weapons of war, except for the Mahabharata, which also has people riding around in chariots, but which mentions magic super-weapons which can be construed by the modern reader to mean atomic weapons, but which was written after all the rest of them.

Even if atomic warfare was occurring thousands of years ago, during the time of Atlantis before the Flood, that does not mean that there was a perfect pagan paradise millions of years ago, it simply adds EVEN MORE evidence to my arsenal that says that people absolutely do not live peacefully.

The Hindu religion is the Vedic religion, the Vedas written in Sanskrit, the Indo-European language of the Indo-Aryans.

You have noted the similarities between Norse mythology and Hindu Vedic mythology:



Yet you refuse to make the racial-linguistic connection between Norse and Aryan, a connection that Hitler and the Nazis had no problem making, which is why they were bringing back Norse paganism as the Nazi religion, and which is why Hitler chose the Hindu swastika as his symbol, and which is why Nazi expeditions were sent to Tibet.

So long as the deceit ran along quiet and monotonous, all of us let ourselves be deceived, abetting it unawares or maybe through cowardice...

~William Faulkner

Well That's what you THINK then. Thats your OPINION.



SEE other post about the four ages... The Mahabharata took place in the age before this one, which is the last and darkest one.

Give it up dude, you cant disprove it because the Vedas are the ONLY texts with such thorough documentation. I dont know why you just dont give it up on this thread LOLOLOL



The point of that post is that our beleifs are all derived from the same stories.

People were living just fine before invaders came to countries and slaughtered millions 'in the name of god'. I do not beleive that indigenous people ever needed to be seen as "barbaric".



Actually, we have been down this path before chain. Go dig through the posts if you like.

Lighten up man, life aint that bad.

What is this thorough documentation concerning the Vedas that you refer to?

The indigenous Dravidian civilization was violent just like all cultures are violent, and then the Hindu Vedic Aryans came and conquered them, slaughtering them in the name of their god Indra, and spread their Hindu beliefs and set up the racist caste system.

Life is still pretty bad for the Untouchable Dalits over there in India.

You are correct, one of the monotheistic "Desert Cults" did come to India to slay pagans, and that is Islam.

Stories from the Vedas of course.



Okay, "Hindu Vedic Aryans" Makes no damned sense again. The indigenous Dravidian civilization would be the natives to the Indus River Valley, but the Aryans were from the Saraswati River Valley. The name "Hindu" is derived from "In-doo" which is from "In-dus" river. So, the aryans being from Saraswati and not Indus makes them NOT HINDU!! ughhh your ignorance shows more every day.

And before we go into the "Invasion Debate" I suggest you read these links.
http://www.indiastar.com/kakaryans.html
http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/a ... awley.html
http://gosai.com/writings/the-myth-of-t ... n-invasion
http://www.stephen-knapp.com/death_of_t ... theory.htm



Yeah altering the meanings of religious texts is a bitch. Happens all the time to so many of them.



Yeah, your favorite.

Are you done yet, or do you want 4 more pages of pwn-age?

So, rather than addressing the post I just made, you decided to edit a previous one that I have already responded to a total of 3 times. That's not proper forum debating technique, mate. It is also against the rules.

So in reguards to the editing ya done thar, you still did not disprove the Satya Yuga, and also have completely ignored the fact that I told you the Mahabharata is NOT in that age, it was in the age before this one.

Jeez....

Ah, so the Vedas document themselves, I see.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarasvati_River

No one even knows for sure where the Sarasvati River was. And if Aryans did settle in this mystery river's valley, then they certainly displaced the original inhabitants.

Hindu refers to the Vedic religion, which is Aryan religion.

The Aryans came from the west, from Iran, which means Aryan.



I have already researched all of this, the linguistic and DNA evidence, as well as the very racist words of the Rigveda, make it very obvious to the un-biased researcher that modern Hinduism is the remains of ancient Nazism, as Hitler and the Nazis knew well.



Nothing has been altered, people have been discriminated against by the race-based caste system for thousands of years in India.

The Perfect Pagan Paradise Satya Yuga is a fairytale, as there is no evidence of human civilization on earth millions of years ago.

You said that this nuclear warfare 10,000 years ago is mentioned in the Mahabharata, now are you saying it was millions of years ago?

There is no evidence against it either, yo.



No Satya Yuga was millions of years ago. Mahabharata thousands. Confusing yourself there?



history yes they document it.



That's not true. There was a special about it on the TV one day. And your assumption there at the end is nothing more than that.



Yeah but it was named PERSIA before genious.




That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard outta yo words chain. Hitler has nothing to do with the Vedas. It's not "ancient nazism". You are attempting to make an improper fraction here. this is lack of reasoning and logic.



We've been down the caste system road as well.

You done yet?

Total lack of archaeological evidence of human civilization or even modern human existence millions of years ago, is certainly evidence against it.



No I'm making sure you aren't confusing yourself.



Just want to make sure that you agree that you take this all on faith.



If it was on TV it must be true, , anyway, I'm sure the TV special described the search for the legendary river, and did not attempt to claim for a fact where the river was. No, DNA and linguistic evidence amount to much more than an assumption.



Thanks for the compliment, but you spelled genius wrong.

Iran is the ancient name for Iran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassanid_Empire









It was ancient Nazism, pagan Caucasoid Aryan domination of the dark native race of India, that is why Hitler and the Nazis were obsessed with the Indo-European Sanskrit-speaking Aryans, whose pagan Hindu belief system is indeed very similar to the kind of Norse paganism that the Nazis were bringing back.

That's why he chose the Hindu swastika.



Caste system = racist discrimination

I'll be done when you stop making false statements for me to refute.

Seriously, what is your point?