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		<title>By: WhatOnEarth</title>
		<link>http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2536&#038;cpage=1#comment-53511</link>
		<dc:creator>WhatOnEarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have heard about this guy David Icke and i vaguely know about his theories on masonic reptilian shape shifters. i just wanted to know whether it was even possible and if so what proof is there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have heard about this guy David Icke and i vaguely know about his theories on masonic reptilian shape shifters. i just wanted to know whether it was even possible and if so what proof is there?</p>
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		<title>By: Hiram Abiff</title>
		<link>http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2536&#038;cpage=1#comment-52614</link>
		<dc:creator>Hiram Abiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 08:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with all of this is the following:

What if this &quot;masonic gesture&quot; was only sort of fashion fad that people copied. What if Stalin just saw pictures of Napoleon, and felt that he himself was a sort of Emperor and therefore copied Napoleon&#039;s way to carry his hand?  

Today, you see pictures of people with one hand in their pants.  Note that during e.g. Napoleonic times, trousers did not necessarily have bags.  Nevertheless, people wanted to rest their hand somewhere. 

Another thing that is not supportive of global conspiracy theories is the simple fact that most of the business and political leaders have huge, huge egos and would never bow to any  &quot;outside&quot; force. They have their own ideas of how things must work and/or be done, and it is practically impossible to reach consensus among big ego personalities.

Apart from that, I agree with one of the writers above. Acknowledged and confirmed Members of Freemasonry have been most likely been a rather beneficial, democratic and pluralistic force in the history of the last 200 years.  This is where things don&#039;t add up.  Why create the world&#039;s foremost democracy (UK, USA, Switzerland, etc.) in the first place when you want to convert it into brutal &quot;Illuminati Dictatorships&quot; 100 years later on?  Why not create dictatorships in the first place?  Be aware that Washington was offered the title of a King of the U.S., but he declined in favor of a democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with all of this is the following:</p>
<p>What if this &#8220;masonic gesture&#8221; was only sort of fashion fad that people copied. What if Stalin just saw pictures of Napoleon, and felt that he himself was a sort of Emperor and therefore copied Napoleon&#8217;s way to carry his hand?  </p>
<p>Today, you see pictures of people with one hand in their pants.  Note that during e.g. Napoleonic times, trousers did not necessarily have bags.  Nevertheless, people wanted to rest their hand somewhere. </p>
<p>Another thing that is not supportive of global conspiracy theories is the simple fact that most of the business and political leaders have huge, huge egos and would never bow to any  &#8220;outside&#8221; force. They have their own ideas of how things must work and/or be done, and it is practically impossible to reach consensus among big ego personalities.</p>
<p>Apart from that, I agree with one of the writers above. Acknowledged and confirmed Members of Freemasonry have been most likely been a rather beneficial, democratic and pluralistic force in the history of the last 200 years.  This is where things don&#8217;t add up.  Why create the world&#8217;s foremost democracy (UK, USA, Switzerland, etc.) in the first place when you want to convert it into brutal &#8220;Illuminati Dictatorships&#8221; 100 years later on?  Why not create dictatorships in the first place?  Be aware that Washington was offered the title of a King of the U.S., but he declined in favor of a democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: ha</title>
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		<dc:creator>ha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.napoleon-series.org/faq/c_hand.html</description>
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		<title>By: ChAoT1C</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChAoT1C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 05:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Few more Freemasons not mentioned in the article:

Beniamin Franklin
J.W.Goethe
Henry Ford
Simon Bolivar
Winston Churchill
Wilhelm I
Ludwig Beethoven
Louis Armstrong
Walt Disney
Clark Gable
John Wayne

sources: 
http://www.wolnomularz.pl/slawni_masoni.htm
http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/Masonry/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few more Freemasons not mentioned in the article:</p>
<p>Beniamin Franklin<br />
J.W.Goethe<br />
Henry Ford<br />
Simon Bolivar<br />
Winston Churchill<br />
Wilhelm I<br />
Ludwig Beethoven<br />
Louis Armstrong<br />
Walt Disney<br />
Clark Gable<br />
John Wayne</p>
<p>sources:<br />
<a href="http://www.wolnomularz.pl/slawni_masoni.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.wolnomularz.pl/slawni_masoni.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/Masonry/" rel="nofollow">http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/Masonry/</a></p>
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		<title>By: emery</title>
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		<dc:creator>emery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 17:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>learn about the reptilian part of your brain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>learn about the reptilian part of your brain</p>
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		<title>By: OutcastGenius</title>
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		<dc:creator>OutcastGenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Cameron has made the same hand gesture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Cameron has made the same hand gesture.</p>
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		<title>By: They Kill Me Instantly If I Tell !</title>
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		<dc:creator>They Kill Me Instantly If I Tell !</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE COME!PLEASE COME!PLEASE COME! Rescue me from this hell!-From Tehran,Iran

********IRAN &amp; WEST CONSPIRACY EXPLAINED*******
Dear Readers,
As you may know,The world is controlled by a single entity, you can call it Illuminati or Antichrist.
Soviet Union and Eastern Block was staged so to divide the world into 2 sections that BOTH worked on improving a Military-Industrial Complex.As a &quot;Create Problem-Offer Solution&quot; pattern, they used the fear of Soviet Union to mobilize Western resources &amp; personnel to create a huge EXTERNAL military power.
When this was achieved(in mid seventies) now they needed another false enemy to create an INTERNAL military power ( police state, surveillance society, FEMA. etc.) in the West so the Soviet Union EXPIRY DATE is reached and it is dissolved and almost joins NATO. Now another block- a TERRORIST BLOCK in nature that fits the agenda of creating police state in West- takes its place. So almost simultaneously in 1979 there is an Afghanistan invasion (by our Russians allies), Saddam rule over Iraq AND Iranian Islamic Revolution.These geographically connected countries become the playground of Arab/Palestinian terrorists who were basically created by British Intelligence in the beginning of 20th century; so by another &quot;Problem-Solution&quot; pattern the West must now be defended against them by creating a police state.
Now guess when the EXPIRY DATE of this Terrorist Block will come? When this deadline is reached, the Iran occupation will start and after that all terrorism in Middle East will subside and eventually the road is paved for One World Government. Iran is nothing but a puppet and scarecrow of Illuminati.
PLEASE WAKE UP! This is all staged and planned. Thank you for reading this comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE COME!PLEASE COME!PLEASE COME! Rescue me from this hell!-From Tehran,Iran</p>
<p>********IRAN &amp; WEST CONSPIRACY EXPLAINED*******<br />
Dear Readers,<br />
As you may know,The world is controlled by a single entity, you can call it Illuminati or Antichrist.<br />
Soviet Union and Eastern Block was staged so to divide the world into 2 sections that BOTH worked on improving a Military-Industrial Complex.As a &#8220;Create Problem-Offer Solution&#8221; pattern, they used the fear of Soviet Union to mobilize Western resources &amp; personnel to create a huge EXTERNAL military power.<br />
When this was achieved(in mid seventies) now they needed another false enemy to create an INTERNAL military power ( police state, surveillance society, FEMA. etc.) in the West so the Soviet Union EXPIRY DATE is reached and it is dissolved and almost joins NATO. Now another block- a TERRORIST BLOCK in nature that fits the agenda of creating police state in West- takes its place. So almost simultaneously in 1979 there is an Afghanistan invasion (by our Russians allies), Saddam rule over Iraq AND Iranian Islamic Revolution.These geographically connected countries become the playground of Arab/Palestinian terrorists who were basically created by British Intelligence in the beginning of 20th century; so by another &#8220;Problem-Solution&#8221; pattern the West must now be defended against them by creating a police state.<br />
Now guess when the EXPIRY DATE of this Terrorist Block will come? When this deadline is reached, the Iran occupation will start and after that all terrorism in Middle East will subside and eventually the road is paved for One World Government. Iran is nothing but a puppet and scarecrow of Illuminati.<br />
PLEASE WAKE UP! This is all staged and planned. Thank you for reading this comment.</p>
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		<title>By: ISAAC BENEAR</title>
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		<dc:creator>ISAAC BENEAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 12:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WELL WHAT CAN WE SAY NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN WE CHRISTIAN ARE WAITING FOR THE GREAT DAY 2 COME WEN WE SHALL BE SENT HOME FOR EVER AND EVER.PLS THE IS A BATTLE WE CHRISTIANS ARE FACING AND I TELL WE ARE NOT MAKING THING EASY 4 THEM AT ALL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WELL WHAT CAN WE SAY NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN WE CHRISTIAN ARE WAITING FOR THE GREAT DAY 2 COME WEN WE SHALL BE SENT HOME FOR EVER AND EVER.PLS THE IS A BATTLE WE CHRISTIANS ARE FACING AND I TELL WE ARE NOT MAKING THING EASY 4 THEM AT ALL</p>
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		<title>By: dasdas</title>
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		<dc:creator>dasdas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 17:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Jackson was definitely privy to knowledge about the illuminati. But he was never fully comfortable with it, which is why I think the elite owned press was always so negative about him. He converted to Islam shortly before his death. Maybe he was assassinated? His own family think &#039;they&#039; murdered him. (Latoya)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Jackson was definitely privy to knowledge about the illuminati. But he was never fully comfortable with it, which is why I think the elite owned press was always so negative about him. He converted to Islam shortly before his death. Maybe he was assassinated? His own family think &#8216;they&#8217; murdered him. (Latoya)</p>
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		<title>By: Takiem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takiem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s just me. It also sounds really farfetched, but I&#039;ve seen Micheal Jackson with his hand in his jacket a few times. Not only that, but the right hand being leprous as snow reminded me of his glove. The white glove on his right hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me. It also sounds really farfetched, but I&#8217;ve seen Micheal Jackson with his hand in his jacket a few times. Not only that, but the right hand being leprous as snow reminded me of his glove. The white glove on his right hand.</p>
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